Participants: Ron Giannoni (Host), Joe Hebert
Series Code: NSN
Program Code: NSN000152A
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00:15 type 2 diabetes and chronic obesity. This includes heart 00:19 attacks and strokes. That's 6-1/2747s crashing every day. 00:23 What's even more surprising is that the fix is easy. It's your 00:28 lifestyle. Wouldn't it be nice if you could actually add 00:31 quality years to your life rather than dying one organ at a 00:35 time. Obesity and diabetes are the cause of a million deaths 00:39 per year. But most diseases are reversible because most diseases 00:42 are lifestyle diseases especially type 2 diabetes and 00:46 chronic obesity. Seriously now they can be reversed and the 00:51 quality of your life can be renewed. Call NEWSTART today at 00:56 1-800-525-9192. You will see dramatic changes in the first 01:02 few days of our program and you will be on the road to a better 01:06 more robust quality of life. The NEWSTART programs are simple and 01:10 effective. Hi friends and welcome to 01:16 another edition of NEWSTART Now. I'm your host, Ron Giannoni. In 01:22 our studio we have a young gentleman, Joe Haber, from 01:26 Fresno, California. I'd like you to take a look at a clip when he 01:31 first arrived. I've been type 2 for 17 years. 01:37 I exercise, I thought I was eating properly and nothing has 01:41 really changed. My weight has gotten good, it's always been 01:46 good but it's gotten better from diet and exercise. But the 01:51 diabetes has not. The doctor has explained to me if it's in your 01:53 cards, it's in your cards. The doctors also told me that I 01:57 would never be able to get off my medicine. In fact, what they 02:01 told me is that I would eventually become insulin 02:04 dependent and I'm afraid of needles so that's been my goal 02:08 not to become insulin dependent. I chose the NEWSTART program 02:12 because of the testimony of three individuals who actually 02:16 graduated from the program who attended and are currently 02:20 alumni and they had dramatic results - weight loss, diabetes 02:24 reversal and I looked at them and I said that's for me. What 02:28 I would like to see transpire from this NEWSTART program is 02:33 one is to have my diabetes reversed. Two is that the other 02:38 is to be able to I guess share my testimony, my story, with 02:42 others so that they know it's possible. There was a time I 02:45 didn't think it was possible. So if this works for me, I'm 02:48 there. I'm in. So. 02:51 Welcome back friends and Joe how are you? Great. Good to see 02:56 you. I'm so happy you've selected to come in and share 03:02 your story with us. So tell us how did you enjoy your stay here 03:06 It's wonderful. Actually it was a really good experience. We 03:10 didn't really know what to expect coming in but whatever 03:14 expectations we had they've been exceeded. 03:16 Good. Now the viewers have seen your first interview. Has 03:23 anything changed. You've been here 16 or 17 days going on 18. 03:29 What's different than when you first arrived? 03:32 Eight pounds lighter, for one. And I'm feeling good. I've been 03:37 doing a lot more walking than I normally have done in the past 03:43 and feel great. Actually today I have to say at the end of this 03:49 program I feel better today than I've felt in a long time. 03:53 Wow. That says a lot. Who's your doctor, by the way? 03:58 My doctor is Dr. Gallant. 04:00 What do you think of Dr. Gallant? 04:02 I think Dr. Gallant is a saint. He's actually really been... 04:09 I've seen a lot of doctors in the past with my medical 04:12 conditions and I have several doctors now that I see and I'd 04:16 have to say Dr. Gallant is top notch. Actually he's more than 04:20 a doctor. He takes you along the way, gives you encouragement. 04:24 He's not just someone who's going to see you for 15 minutes 04:28 and you know look at your symptoms and walk out. He 04:31 actually prays with you. He talks to you like a human being 04:35 and really makes you feel good. 04:37 I'm so glad to hear you say that I have to ask you a question. 04:42 Have you ever been to a doctor's home where they prepared a meal 04:46 for you? Not until I came here. 04:49 What do you think of that? 04:51 Actually I thought it was wonderful. It was a great 04:57 experience and it was a way for my wife and I to kind of look at 05:02 what we could do in addition to just the meals that we'd kind of 05:05 been learning in the menu. These were things that were a little 05:09 bit off the grid but it was delicious. 05:12 Good, good. So did Dr. Gallant walk with you? 05:19 We would meet up with Dr. Gallant in the mornings at least 05:24 half a dozen times we'd run into him. He was out walking. Really? 05:28 We'd walk with him. Again, I'd never walked with a doctor 05:34 before until I came here. 05:35 What was the purpose of him walking with you? 05:40 The purpose was to show us that... The thing about 05:44 Dr. Gallant is that he's done this too. He's actually made a 05:47 lifestyle change and he shared that with us and this is what he 05:51 does. So it kind of inspired us to say hey if he can do it we 05:56 can do it. If he can do it I can do it. So it was really good. 06:00 As far as your lifestyle goes, before you came here were you 06:05 vegetarian? No. No, I was a carnivore, a 06:12 meat eater. Actually this year we made some changes where we 06:16 cut back on the red meat and so coming here was really just the 06:20 next step because I noticed that there were changes in my blood 06:24 sugar numbers from cutting back on red meat. So I figured why 06:29 not take it to the next level and cut out all meat and get off 06:33 all medicine. So that's what I've done. 06:34 How are you dealing with that? 06:36 Right now my numbers aren't as good but my body's transitioning 06:41 I haven't been on medication for two weeks and I feel fine. I'm 06:46 not sick. I'm not foggy. My energy levels are about as good 06:52 as they were when I was in my 20s. I feel great; sleeping well 06:56 So I'm just waiting for things to kind of settle down as we 07:01 go through this process but I'm feeling good. 07:02 What kind of medications were you taking? 07:04 I was on medication for diabetes so I was on Metformin, I was on 07:12 Januvia, another medicine called glimepiride. 07:15 So you were shooting the needle and taking pills. 07:18 No, no needles, just all pills. 07:19 Oh it was all pills. 07:22 All pills but for high blood pressure and also for 07:25 cholesterol. How's your blood pressure? 07:29 Blood pressure is not where I would like it to be but I feel 07:32 fine and that's the thing that's encouraging. In the past I've 07:37 gone off my medication and not felt good at all. So that was 07:42 the big Ah-ha for me to stop the medication and feel good and I 07:47 think it has to do with the diet and the fresh air and the 07:51 walking. So are you going to have any 07:52 problem when you get home sticking to the program? 07:55 It's going to be a little bit of a challenge. But we're excited. 07:58 And I've got my wife you know, 08:01 we're a team in this so I think we're going to be fine. 08:04 That's a huge benefit. Because I brought my wife with me when I 08:09 came to the program. Had it not been for her I wasn't sure that 08:14 I'd stick with it. But I have stuck with it for nine and a 08:18 half years and I've lost a lot of weight, got rid of my 08:22 diabetes, all the pills, etc. etc. and you're going to do the 08:25 same because you have a team You can kind of coach one 08:30 another. So I want to ask you about your overall experience 08:37 here at NEWSTART. It's like nothing I've ever 08:42 experienced before. The thing that really touched me deeply 08:48 was the start of every session we prayed and I think that's 08:53 something that was really new to me, it was really new to my 08:58 wife but it was a thing we looked forward every time 09:01 whether it was hydrotherapy, whether we were seeing the 09:03 doctor, whether before our meals Every aspect of this place is 09:09 God centered and I think that really makes a difference. 09:13 That made such a difference to me that I started studying the 09:17 Bible after I came through the program and was baptized four 09:21 months later just because of this place. How about the 09:26 lectures? Did you go to and receive many lectures? 09:30 We received a lot of lectures and the lectures were 09:33 outstanding and there were many many ah-ha's by going to these 09:39 lectures. Even for diseases, not diabetes. I've got a friend who 09:45 has asthma and I gleaned some information from one of the 09:48 lectures and actually went back to my room and called him and 09:51 I said you know you need to follow this if you want to feel 09:55 better. So the lectures were very informative and very... 09:58 And they're all given mostly by doctors. 10:00 Mostly by doctors. The doctors and the other staff in the 10:04 mornings we have a chaplain actually give us some lectures 10:08 but they're all Christ-based, Jesus Christ-based but also 10:12 health based. So it was integrated. The program was 10:18 great. Good. So the message you're 10:25 going to take back home. Is there anyone living with you and 10:26 your wife. Just my wife and I. We're empty 10:29 nesters. So what about your church 10:34 family? Are you going to be on board with bringing the health 10:37 message to the church? 10:38 Oh I think our testimony, we're going to be living testimonies. 10:43 We're not only to our church but we have a wide circle of friends 10:47 and we know a lot of people who could really benefit from this 10:51 program so we'll be big advocates for Weimar in the 10:54 future. Yeah. They're going to be 10:55 looking at you and going what did you do. What has changed? 11:00 Right. You know I want to take just a 11:02 moment to thank you for coming and sharing your life and what 11:07 you've experienced here and I'm looking forward to chatting with 11:12 you in the coming months. So God bless you my brother and 11:15 we'll talk to you soon. And God bless you too friend. Don't go 11:19 away. Dr. Gallant will be with us after this. 11:26 ¤ ¤ 11:57 Welcome back friends. Help me to welcome Dr. Gallant. How are 12:01 you? I'm doing well Ron. 12:03 Good to see you and I want the viewers to know that you're one 12:07 of our new docs. That's right I am. I'm the new 12:10 medical director for NEWSTART. 12:12 And we're happy that you're here and I want to get right into 12:15 this interview about Joe. Yes. He's quite a guy. 12:21 He is quite a guy. You know we had a great relationship and a 12:24 great time getting to know each other. 12:25 Yes. I thought he was kind of buff when I first met him. He 12:30 says he lost a few pounds. 12:32 He did. He lost about eight pounds. 12:34 Eight pounds at that. 12:35 Yeah in about 18 days, isn't that amazing? 12:39 Yeah, well he didn't have a whole lot to lose did he? 12:41 No I don't think he had a whole lot to lose but we changed his 12:46 activity schedule. We got him walking more and pushing less 12:50 weight. Yeah that's good. So that will change your physique 12:55 a little bit. Now how much do you have these 12:59 guests, I'll call them, how much do you have them walk? Where's 13:06 the benefit, where's the shall we say, how much do you need 13:12 to walk, in other words, to get healthy? 13:15 Well what we have found is the more a patient walks the more 13:20 healthy they become. So we have these patients walking a lot. 13:24 It was interesting with Joe. Joe used to cycle a lot and I told 13:29 him, I said activity is activity specific. So having exercise 13:35 tolerance for cycling is different than having 13:37 exercise tolerance for walking. 13:39 And he found that out. He had a good healthy cardiac reserve but 13:44 he found that walking was a little different and uses a 13:47 little bit different muscles and it actually, once he got going, 13:51 he was doing great. He was doing up to, I believe, six 13:54 miles a day. Wow. Yeah. 13:56 Can I ask you this. If walking is good is running better? 14:01 That's a great question. You know it depends on what you're 14:06 trying to do, okay. But I believe if you're trying to be 14:10 healthy walking is the best way. Let me tell you why I say that. 14:15 For somebody who is running and running hard we think of that as 14:19 an aerobic activity because they're breathing hard but 14:23 really where aerobics makes a difference is at a cellular 14:28 level, at your tissue level, and at a tissue level when you're 14:32 working so hard, you're breathing fast, your heart rate 14:35 is up, you only burn glucose. Take you all the way back to 14:38 high school chemistry. You go through that cycle we call the 14:43 Krebs cycle. So that is not always the most optimal way to 14:47 be healthy whereas if you walk at a moderate pace where you can 14:51 keep up a conversation if you're walking, it actually burns 50 14:56 percent fat and 50 percent glucose so it's actually better 15:00 for your body and most of us could stand to lose a little bit 15:04 of weight so if we burn a little fat, it's better for us. 15:08 So what I heard you say in the layman's terms, running is to 15:12 get fit, walking is to get healthy. 15:15 I like that. You like that? 15:17 I like that and also too running tends to be hard on your joints. 15:21 Yeah. Yeah I don't do it very much 15:24 either. Our knee joint is a straight joint so every time we 15:29 run there's an impact between those two bones, whereas animals 15:33 that run a lot have more of a bowed knee joint so they land 15:37 lighter. It's not as hard on their body. Walking is an 15:41 exercise we can do. Just about everybody can do it. You don't 15:44 have to have a lot of special equipment. You don't even have 15:48 to have a partner although a partner is very helpful because 15:51 it motivates both of you to keep going. You don't have to belong 15:54 to any special club or anything. You know just a good pair of 15:57 shoes is really all we need. 15:59 Good to hear and I know the viewers are going to benefit by 16:02 what you're saying here. I want to get back to Joe because we 16:05 only have a few minutes left. 16:07 Let me give you one more thing about Joe. Yes. I told Joe that 16:12 walking was going to be his new medicine for his diabetes. Joe 16:16 was worried about his diabetes because he's been on pills and 16:21 he was worried about having to take shots. I told him that 16:26 walking for an hour is equivalent to five units of 16:30 insulin. So I told him that's like getting a free shot without 16:35 the needle and he loved it. He was all in at that point. 16:38 That's so good to hear you say that. Well what about the blood 16:43 pressure now? I know he mentioned he had some issues 16:46 with blood pressure and issues with diabetes. Is he off both 16:50 medications? He got off of all of his 16:52 medications while he was here and his numbers fluctuated a 16:56 little bit but I told him don't get excited about that because 17:01 he's going through a transition. His body is changing and as we 17:05 were getting to the end of the program his numbers were really 17:08 starting to come down. It was fascinating. We did a treadmill 17:12 test at the beginning and at the end where they start off as 17:17 walking and he improved his time on the treadmill and the 17:22 endurance and the physical work of the test by a significant 17:27 amount just in 18 days. Unbelievable. Yeah. 17:33 You know before we sat down, before we started rolling the 17:37 camera you said you had something really nice to share 17:40 about his last... We do two blood draws. 17:43 Two blood draws, that's right. 17:45 And the last one you had something you wanted to share. 17:48 So his first set of numbers were up, definitely were up and his 17:53 blood sugars came down and then started to go back up a little 17:58 bit slowly. Some of that was related to maybe some of the 18:03 things that were taking place while he was here. You know, we 18:08 had a visit and we prayed about what God was doing to change 18:13 his body and make him healthy. And his numbers that morning 18:17 had been high and after we prayed and after he'd eaten 18:23 lunch, his numbers dropped significantly. Wow! Praise God. 18:28 Praise God. That's the way God works. 18:31 When is the last time you went to the doctor and he prayed with 18:34 you? Or let alone he took a walk with you and then invited you to 18:39 his home to fix you a meal. It just isn't done. Doctor, I want 18:43 to thank you. You know, I know your time is so valuable. All 18:47 you doctors seem to be running 24 hours a day and I really 18:51 appreciate you coming here and thank you so much. 18:54 Thank you, Ron, for having me. It was a pleasure. 18:56 And thank you friends. Don't go away. We have a tip for you. 19:01 I'm Michelle Irwin. I'm the NEWSTART cooking instructor and 19:05 I'm going to show you how to make a sunflower burger that's 19:08 gluten free, nutritious, delicious and super versatile. 19:11 Okay, let's talk about the ingredients that we'll be using 19:15 today. I have two cups of cooked brown rice. I like the short 19:18 grain because it's going to give you a little bit more binding 19:22 action and that's what we're looking for. Two cups of raw 19:25 sunflower seeds, unsalted, and that's really the secret 19:28 ingredient to this recipe because it's going to give us 19:32 that oil in the nut that we don't use. At NEWSTART we don't 19:35 use oil. So we're going to get the oils from our nuts or our 19:39 seeds I should say. We'll be using a grated carrot. You can 19:42 substitute the carrot for a nice zucchini if you don't want the 19:45 carrot. I'll be adding some fresh sage, some cumin, some 19:50 thyme, a little bit of oregano and I have some Herbamare salt 19:54 or you could use sea salt and granulated garlic plus a 19:59 handful of parsley to give us that gorgeous green color we're 20:03 looking for. Okay. So let's get started. What you'll need in 20:07 terms of appliances for this is your food processor with the 20:11 S blade. What I'm going to do is I'm going to add my two cups of 20:17 my sunflower seeds along with my dry spices. So I'm adding my 20:23 cumin, my garlic, thyme, some oregano and then some nice 20:32 Herbamare salt or sea salt. All right what I want to do is 20:41 process this until I achieve a nice, fine, flour-like 20:45 consistency. It's important to note that you don't want to 20:48 over process this because you'll turn it into sunflower seed 20:51 butter and we don't want that. We just want to have a nice 21:05 flour-like consistency. (Processing) Okay, so this looks 21:14 great. And I processed that for about three minutes or less 21:20 depending on how fast your processor is. Okay, so what I 21:26 want to do now is I want to add my carrots or if you're going to 21:29 use zucchini in place of that you could do that or you could 21:32 do a combination of both. The sky's the limit with this burger 21:36 Okay and then I'm going to add just a handful of my parsley to 21:41 give us some nice color variation. Parsley, incidentally 21:44 is excellent for the blood. It gives you a nice chlorophyll that 21:47 helps to cleanse your blood. So parsley wherever you can fit 21:51 that in is good. It's also good for your breath since we're 21:54 using garlic; we want to make sure that we counteract 21:57 that. Pulse this a few times. (Pulsing) And you can see that 22:05 it's already starting to bind together for me. It's turning 22:11 into a nice little crumbly as we add our wet ingredients. Okay, 22:17 so I'm going to add my rice. Now you don't want to over 22:20 process this rice because it will get gooey on you. So let's 22:24 go ahead and add a little bit at a time here and make sure that 22:29 it gets well distributed and you may have to stop this a few 22:33 times just to scrape it down and just kind of spend a little bit 22:45 of time doing that if you need to. (Pulsing) Okay I'm going to 22:53 go ahead and scrape this down. Already it's starting to bind. 23:00 So I have precooked my brown rice and you can definitely use 23:05 it cold like I'm doing now or you could use it after you cook 23:09 it, just let it cool about 20 minutes because that rice is 23:14 pretty hot and it may be a little bit harder to work with 23:19 if it's hotter. But it definitely will work. 23:22 Okay, so we're going to add a little bit of sage to this and 23:26 it's going to give us a nice earthy balance to this recipe. 23:30 Fresh sage is the secret ingredient. I can't tell you 23:33 enough great things about sage but we're going to show you how 23:36 to use it in this recipe. I'm just going to layer the leaves 23:41 on top of each other like so, give them a little bit of a roll 23:45 and then take my sharp knife and just gently, I don't want to go 23:51 crazy with bruising this so I'm just going to work through these 23:56 herbs here, the sage, and just give it a little chop here. Okay 24:02 now let's throw it into our food processor, sprinkle that in, and 24:07 give it a spin. (Processing and tipping). There I'm going to 24:17 scrape it down a little bit here again. You can see that's really 24:21 starting to come together. And you see all the beautiful color 24:26 variation of this dish. Okay. What we're looking for is for it 24:30 to form really nice like so and if you need to add a little bit 24:35 you can add a little bit of tomato sauce or salsa if 24:38 you wanted to but it should stick together pretty well for 24:42 you, okay. So what I'm going to do now is I'm going to go ahead 24:46 and turn my stove to a medium heat. You don't want to go too 24:50 high with this because these are already cooked and they'll burn 24:54 if you do it too high. So just get a little bit of time and 24:58 turn that burner on to about a medium. Okay I'm going to go 25:01 old fashioned here and we're just going to form our burgers. 25:04 I'll show you a method that you can form them with these cool 25:07 little Mason jar tops but what I'm going to do now is just put 25:11 this into my nonstick pan and we're going to just cook them 25:17 for about 3-5 minutes on each side. All right, so we're going 25:22 to let this cook and you can press it down as well. So let me 25:27 show you how to form these burgers using other methods. 25:30 The method I'm using today is just on a nonstick frying pan 25:34 with no oil. But you can definitely put it on a cookie 25:37 sheet, a nonstick cookie sheet, or have a little we call this 25:41 Bake Magic so you can get them at your store, to keep them 25:45 from sticking. But what I like to do is just take a top of a 25:48 Mason jar here and if you want to get really technical you can 25:53 use one scoop and they'll all be about the same size. Then all 25:58 you're going to do is just kind of press it into that ring. Just 26:02 fill that in, pack it in really nice, and then just simply lift 26:07 and fill again. So this is a way to make sure all your burgers 26:11 are the same size and they'll cook the same time. You could 26:15 put this into the oven at about 350 for about 12 minutes, give 26:19 it a flip, cook it for another 10 minutes until they're brown 26:22 and that way you can do a bunch of burgers at once if you don't 26:27 want to fry them. You can also make little sliders. Okay so for 26:31 your fun little picnics you can just form them in these little 26:35 jars, tops of jars. So that's great. Let's go ahead now and 26:39 give our burger a flip and see how it's doing. There we go. So 26:43 we want to have it just a little bit golden brown and these are 26:46 going to be wonderful. You can cook them ahead of time and 26:50 freeze them so when you need a burger quickly you already have 26:53 them done and just microwave them or put them into your pan 26:57 and reheat them gently. Or you can actually keep this mixture 27:01 for about three days and this mixture will stay to form 27:05 later. You can use these as substitutes for burger crumble. 27:09 You can use it to put into your chilies as well as make little 27:13 tacos with this burger recipe. I can show you the finished 27:18 product of our burger and I've plated this with my favorite bun 27:21 with some tomatoes and gorgeous lettuce and avocados and some 27:26 onion. But feel free to have fun with this recipe and enjoy. 27:30 Well friends that's it for today but join us next week for 27:34 another episode. In the meantime pick up the phone and give us a 27:40 call at 1-800-525-9192. Mention the NEWSTART Now program and 27:46 receive the NEWSTART special. |
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