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Hi friends and welcome to
another edition of NEWSTART Now.
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I'm your host, Ron Giannoni.
And in our studios today I have
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Virginia Becker. I would like
to take a look at when Virginia
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first arrived. In
July of this year I started
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having shortness of breath and
tightness in the chest and so
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they did a treadmill test on me
which was inconclusive and so in
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August they did a nuclear
medicine treadmill test and
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found out that my left ventricle
is working at only 42-47 percent
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So my heart wasn't getting
enough oxygen and I decided
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rather than to go under the
knife I wanted to get it taken
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care of naturally if at all
possible. So in July I actually
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started eating vegan at home and
I started feeling better. So I
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came here to help me to learn
how to better cook vegan and
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learn a different lifestyle.
Before I leave here I want my
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heart to be completely healthy
and I want to hopefully lose
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some more weight so I can go out
and take a walk and not be out
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of breath and my chest hurting.
I have two one-year-old twin
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grandsons and I want to
be able to keep up with them.
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Welcome back friends and in
our studio Virginia. How are you
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dear? I'm fine, thank you.
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I'm so happy to see you and I'm
thankful that you're willing to
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have this interview.
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Well, I'm glad to be here.
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Yeah. Now you got here 16 days
ago, 17 days ago. Right. And
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like all our guests you're here
for an 18-day program, but you
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had some conditions when you
first arrived. Let's talk about
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that. What happened that made
you need to come to NEWSTART.
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Why did you pick NEWSTART? Why
didn't you pick some place on
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the east coast or Florida?
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Well I had a heart issue and
I don't know. I've always just
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known about NEWSTART and so
it was my first choice since I'm
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from Washington state so it's a
lot closer. Yes. And my husband
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agreed that this is
where I should come. So due to
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circumstances that didn't happen
till November but I came and
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I'm very glad that I did.
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Yes. Now you were asked or told
by your cardiologist that you
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needed a bypass or an open heart
surgery of some kind that you
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refused to do or
was that just an exam?
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It was just an exam. It was
an initial exam. He wanted to do
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an angiogram to see if it was
blocked or just narrowed. Right.
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So we set up the appointment for
me to have that done and on the
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way home I thought I don't even
want that done. I don't want
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them doing anything inside my
body so by the time I got home
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I told my husband, I don't even
want to do that. And he said,
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then don't. Good girl. So I
called NEWSTART that day and
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signed up and called the
cardiologist and cancelled my
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appointment. And
signed out. Yeah.
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You know I had two of those.
One about 30 years ago. The
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cardiologist had me sign a
waiver and I said what's this?
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He says well sometimes we have
complications because we go up
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through the artery in the groin
and you might end up losing a
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leg. And I says what are you
talking about? I don't want to
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lose a leg. Well that rarely
happens. Anyway I got a little
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frightened and a little nervous.
Then I'm lying on this table
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and they shoot this dye and I
got really warm inside. I said I
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don't like this. In any case, I
wish I'd never done those but I
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made it through. So you didn't
do that but you decided to come
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to the NEWSTART program. Why did
you come? What did you hope to
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gain or lose? Lose
the heart problem. I knew
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that their lifestyle, you know
eating, everything about them
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was different and it was what
I needed. So I hoped that in
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coming here that I could lose
some of the weight so that my
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cholesterol would be better
which wasn't real high but high
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enough. I wasn't on any
medication for that. That, the
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cholesterol down, but mainly
to get my arteries cleaned out
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so that my heart disease would
be reversed. And I knew, and I
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can't tell you how many
times I checked out the NEWSTART
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website and said wow here's
somebody who was 95 percent
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blocked and after a year
and a half he went back to his
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cardiologist and his arteries
looked good. And I thought, if
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they can do it for him, I
can go there and getting on this
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lifestyle, it
will happen for me too.
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Good attitude. And that is the
truth. I've been associated with
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the NEWSTART program for nine
years this year and the program
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that we're now doing, you and
I, probably five or six years.
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We've had a number of the people
come through the program, like
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me, who had blocked arteries
who have cleared them out now
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through lifestyle. There are
other ways to do it as well. One
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is called open heart surgery.
But they don't clear them out.
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What they do is bypasses and
such and I had that done and let
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me tell you, it's no picnic.
Some of you viewing, you know
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what I'm talking about. The
cardiologist told me, Ron in
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three months you'll be able to
run a marathon. Well it took me
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a lot longer than three months.
But nonetheless, here you are.
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You had angina as some people
call it and your HDL was not
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that high, your cholesterol,
but it was high enough where you
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could be concerned. Now on your
second test, it went up a little
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bit. Yeah. Did Dr. Ing explain
why that perhaps went up rather
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than down? Well he
said when you're losing
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weight, which I did.
How much did you lose?
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I only lost five pounds.
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Well that's okay.
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But it's better than
gaining five pounds. Absolutely.
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That you know the cholesterol
is being flushed out. Plus he
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said if I took it daily I would
notice that it does fluctuate.
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Your cholesterol fluctuates and
so he said not to be discouraged
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about that. In three months he
wants me to have it taken again
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and let him know what's going
on. But to stay on what I'm
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doing. Which is? The diet,
exercise, drinking lots of water
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and trusting in God.
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Amen. We like to look at it
rather than a diet, a lifestyle
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change which equates to a diet
but someone once said to me,
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what was it? Oh, the word die.
If we call it anything let's
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call it a live-it rather than
a diet. Nonetheless, it is a
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change to a plant-based food
and you've learned in the last
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couple weeks that whole foods,
plant based, eaten whole, are
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what can nourish our bodies
and give us the energy and the
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vitamins and minerals and fat
and protein that the body needs
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rather than stuffing it with
animal flesh or something that
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has a face or a mother that
we shouldn't be putting in our
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bodies. So when I learned that
and lost 90 pounds I was just
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thrilled. Again, I'm going to be
following up with you and we'll
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be talking and seeing how you're
doing. So what are you going to
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do when you get home? What are
some of the things that you're
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going to do when you walk in the
house and you say hello? What
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are you going to do
with things in your freezer?
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I have a lot of food in my
pantry and in my freezer that
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need to go out. I've been
vegetarian most of my life so
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it's not like I have meat
products but I have the analogs.
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Okay. They're analogs so I've
got a lot of that that I'm going
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to have to get rid of and
get more fresh produce into my
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refrigerator. Good girl. And
I have loved all the food that
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they have cooked here so
it's not going to be hard.
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Well we've run out of time.
I want to thank you again for
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joining us and I'll be looking
forward to talking to you in
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another three or four weeks.
Friends don't go away. We'll be
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right back.
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Welcome back friends. Help
me introduce you to Dr. Ing,
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Clarence Ing. A
pleasure to be here with you
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Ron. Doctor, we
were talking before
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the program. You've been here
17 years, one month and so many
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days. You've had to have seen
some miracles in that time that
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have to do with cardiovascular
disease. Can we address that
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with regards to
Virginia? How's she doing?
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She's doing well. You know
if the patients follow the rules
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they do very well. Right at the
beginning I tell them, you can
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totally ignore everything we're
going to teach you if you're
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willing to accept
the consequences. Ouch.
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And if you don't like the
consequences then it may be
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prudent and wise for you
to follow the suggestions and
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advice. The more carefully
you follow the suggestions and
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advice the more rapidly you
will get well. There are kind of
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rules for life. If you follow
the rules for life, your life
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will be a lot happier and you'll
feel a lot better and have less
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problems and spend less time and
money in doctors' offices. So
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it's important to learn
the rules. I recognized that
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sometimes people are raised and
their parents never teach them
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the rules. But when you get
old enough to begin to look at
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things you figure out why or how
and what should I do to maintain
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and improve my health. This is
very important. Just because we
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don't know the rules if you
break the rules you're still
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going to suffer the consequences
Do anything you want as long
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as you will accept the result.
But if you don't like the result
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of the standard American
lifestyle will provide for you.
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What does it provide for
you? Heart disease, high blood
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pressure, strokes, cancer and
diabetes, then you'd probably
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better learn what the rules are
and put them into practice and
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then you can miss out on
those. It's kind of like this.
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Sometimes people think that
when I encourage them to follow
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WPFEW which stands for Whole
Plant Foods Eaten Whole that
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they're going to miss out on a
lot of good food. I say no, no,
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no. You're not missing out
on anything other than heart
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disease, high blood pressure,
strokes, diabetes and cancer.
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I think you'd rather
miss out on those anyway.
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Yes. But let me ask you
something, Doc. Okay, now I'm
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a good guy and I'm a vegan. I'm
not doing all these things. I'm
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eating plant, no oil, no fat.
What if I go out one time and
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I splurge and I go I'm going for
it and I just start eating all
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this stuff. What are the effects
of that one little fling?
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Well, it depends what you eat
but I kind of gather from what
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you're saying you're not going
to be eating a low-fat, plant-
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based diet and if you're
not going to be eating a low-fat
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plant-based diet but eating
the standard American diet, well
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those arteries which are nice
and soft and flexible are now
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going to get stiff and maybe
a little bit more rigid. They
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won't have as much flexibility
and you know they'll get back
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to where they were in about
a month if you follow all the
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rules. Oh no. But if you go
out to dinner once a week, once
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every 10 days and go to
one of those good ole' American
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restaurants and have the
standard American fare you're
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not going to get better, you're
probably going to get worse
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like the average American does.
Gotcha. So diet and food make
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a profound difference in your
health. It's really important.
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Well what about what we
learn here as far as water and
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sunshine. Are they that
significant, especially this
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time of year when
the weather is changing?
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Well sunshine is important
because with sunshine you get
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vitamin D and you know water's
important. Fresh air's important
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That's one of the blessings
about Weimar; you've got lots
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of fresh air and usually being
here as well we're above the
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overcast. If you're down in
the valley below a thousand feet
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it may be overcast but once
you get above a thousand feet at
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Auburn. Like up here at Weimar
at 2000 feet elevation it's
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usually sunny and very
nice during the winter time.
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Yeah, very, very nice.
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So please come join us
whoever's out there who needs to
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improve their health.
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Absolutely. Now what about
her future here. What is your
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prognosis for this young lady?
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Well this young lady,
if Virginia follows all the
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suggestions and advice,
her arteries, which seem to be
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narrowed, and that's why
she has angina or chest pain or
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discomfort when she exercises
those arteries should clean out.
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Now actually clean out?
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Oh yeah. Dr. Caldwell, Dr.
Dean Ornish and others have
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shown where the arteries which
are narrowed from deposits of
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cholesterol with a low-fat vegan
diet by and large that plaque
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will be reabsorbed. The HDL
goes down there, picks up the
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cholesterol, carries it down
to the liver, combines with the
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bile salts and those go out. If
you have a high fiber diet, the
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bile salts are carried out in
the stool. If you have the low
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fat standard American diet those
bile salts can be reabsorbed and
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the cholesterol
continues to stay high.
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What do you think is the success
rate for people who come through
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our program here? That
depends on your choices
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and your willingness to
be compliant. Now we say
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compliance. If they're 100
percent compliant they're going
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going to be very,
very successful. But I also
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recognize that some people it's
difficult to be compliant and so
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that's why we try to get them
connected with the one who can
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give them the power to follow
the rules and that's the good
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Lord. That you'll never hear
on a secular program and that's
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an important part of whole-
person care. Physical, mental
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and spiritual. Very
well put. So Virginia is on
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her road to recovery. We have a
system in place where we follow
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up with our guests on a monthly
basis for those who wish for us
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to follow up. Are you available
to these guests? Can they call
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you at any time for advice?
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When I sign a little book which
I give to them and also on a
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list of the guests, they get my
home telephone number, they get
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my e-mail and when I give them
their final orders usually I
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write down, I say please contact
me once a month and give me a
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follow-up report. I have goals
for them as far as their weight
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goes. I tell them if I want them
to get their blood checked in
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two or three months, whatever
it is. And they're to send me a
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report they're supposed to give
me their phone number so that I
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can call them if need be.
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And I know from fact you do call
them because you've called me.
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years ago, of course, and now
we can just talk whenever it's
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necessary. But Doctor, we're
running out of time. I want to
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thank you for coming here and
taking your time to visit with
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us and talk about Virginia. It's
a pleasure. God bless you and
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thank you and bless your work.
Friends don't go away. We'll be
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right back after this.
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The second deadly psychological
sin is complaining. Know
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anything about that? I believe
that complaining is based on a
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sense of entitlement. We're kind
of outraged customers that feel
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that we deserve better. So
at the foundation of complaining
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is this what we call entitlement
mentality and of course that
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needs to be dealt with. But
complaining in and of itself
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causes a whole plethora
of problems. First of all...
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So what happens is with each
complaint that problem gets a
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little bit bigger in your field
of vision and pretty soon all
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that fills your field of vision
is all this negativity. As a
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result a person develops
what we call low frustration
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tolerance. Think of it in the
sense of their carrying around
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very full glass of water. All
these negative things are right
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up to the brim and the slightest
extra drop causes the water to
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overflow. If you keep focusing
on the negative you'll end up in
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that situation where you have a
very low tolerance for anything
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aggravating. Let's face it.
In reality there are positives.
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Life isn't all bad, it's not
all good, it's not all bad. We
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have a choice as to what we're
going to focus on. The story is
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told of a cowboy. The cowboy was
driving down the road. He had
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his dog in the back of his truck
and he had a trailer behind the
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truck pulling his horse. There
was a terrible accident. The
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vehicles were strewn all over
the road. A policeman came upon
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the scene. The policemen first
came to the dog. He realized the
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dog was not going to make it
so he shot the dog. Then he came
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upon the horse and he
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realized the horse wasn't going
to make it so he shot the horse.
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Then he found the cowboy. He'd
been thrown out of the vehicle
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into the field and he was lying
there watching the policeman
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shoot his animals. The policeman
came to him and looked down
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at him and said how are you
doing and the cowboy said I've
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never felt better. When
we complain there's a certain
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amount of payoff. You know Dr.
Phil says, what's the payoff?
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That means that we're getting
something out of what we're
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doing. In fact, we have
an expression in behavioral
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psychology that goes like
this. It says all behavior is
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operative. Meaning that in
everything that we do we're
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either trying to get something
or we're trying to avoid
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something. In either
case, achieve something. We're
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getting something out of
it. So even when we engage in a
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negative behavior that
ultimately hurts us, there is
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a temporary, at least, payoff
in that behavior. So normally
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people really kind of, on some
level, enjoy complaining. It
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makes them feel maybe a little
righteous. But in the cowboy's
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case the payoff for complaining
was really bad and the payoff
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for not complaining was quite
high so he didn't complain.
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The replacement for complaining
is gratitude. When we realize
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we really don't deserve the
blessing that fall all around us
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and upon us every day of our
lives, we start to feel grateful
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I prescribe gratitude to people
that are negatively focused.
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Clients that have been so
consumed with negativity and
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complaining that they
made themselves depressed, I
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prescribe it like a pill. I
say this is what you have to do.
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You have to practice morning and
evening. I tell them they must
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go home and they must think of
three things for which they are
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grateful every evening and share
it with another person. Then
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the following morning when they
arise think of three things for
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which they are grateful and
share it with another person.
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It's amazing how difficult this
is for some people. Sometimes
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in the middle of a counseling
session I'll say are you
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grateful for anything.
And they'll try to think of
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something and then I'll
pressure them a little and
00:24:22.42\00:24:24.49
they'll try to think of
something and maybe they'll
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think of one little thing. Then
they'll go right back to their
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negative thinking. And finally
I'll say to them the real
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problem here is not all
the problems in your life. The
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problem here is that you're
focused on those problems.
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Let's work on changing your
focus. I want to tell you about
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a study that showed the affect
of gratitude. It was performed
00:24:42.71\00:24:46.98
on undergraduate students over
a 10-week period of time. The
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undergrads were split into three
groups. They completed a weekly
00:24:51.75\00:24:56.39
log of their emotions. One
third were to write about five
00:24:56.42\00:25:00.46
impacting events. One third were
to write about five hassles and
00:25:00.50\00:25:05.87
one third were to write
five things for which they were
00:25:05.90\00:25:08.47
grateful. Then they wanted
to measure how these different
00:25:08.50\00:25:11.07
focuses affected their
emotions. The study says...
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So gratitude had the effect
of making people take care of
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themselves better. And in
addition to that they just plain
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felt better physically as a
result of gratitude. It's worth
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a try isn't it? It reminds me
of a quote by one of my favorite
00:25:42.64\00:25:46.91
Ellen White. She said: Nothing
tends more to promote health of
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body and soul than does a
spirit of gratitude and praise.
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