Participants: Ron Giannoni (Host), Lucy Lovi
Series Code: NSN
Program Code: NSN000148A
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00:15 Type 2 diabetes and chronic obesity. This includes heart 00:18 attacks and strokes. That 6-1/2 747s crashing every day. What's 00:23 even more surprising is that the fix is easy. It's your lifestyle 00:27 Wouldn't it be nice if you could actually add quality years to 00:31 your life rather than dying one organ at a time. Obesity and 00:35 diabetes are the cause of over a million deaths per year and most 00:39 diseases are reversible because most diseases are lifestyle 00:46 Seriously now, they can be reversed and the quality of your 00:50 life can be renewed... 00:59 You will see dramatic changes in the first few days of our 01:02 program and you will be on the road to a better, more robust 01:05 quality of life. 01:12 Hi friends and welcome to another edition of NEWSTART Now. 01:17 I'm your host, Ron Gianonni. In our studio with me I have 01:23 the privilege of introducing to you Lucy Lovey from New York. 01:28 Well actually she's from San Diego via New York. Let's take 01:33 a look at when she first arrived 01:36 I had quadruple bypass and I had a hip replacement in my right 01:45 hip and then the year after I had my left hip replaced. I've 01:53 had two back surgeries, lower back, for spinal stenosis. Then 02:02 I had some vertebrae that had to be fixed. There's got to be some 02:10 place. I'm so sick of doctors. I'm so sick of pills. I'm so 02:14 sick of surgery and I keep getting worse. I said there's 02:18 got to be... I said they have fat farms, they have this, they 02:21 have that. They have all kinds of programs. Isn't there 02:24 something for people that can go and get a real wellness place. 02:31 I came here because my health has been deteriorating for the 02:36 past, actually for about the past 20 years, but it's gotten 02:44 much worse over the past five, six years. And I've had numerous 02:51 surgeries and nothing has seemed to help me. And I've gained an 02:58 awful lot of weight and that has been a real detriment. I want to 03:04 be able to have normal blood pressure because my blood 03:09 pressure has been very high and even with medication it's always 03:16 too high and has caused me to have kidney problems. I also 03:22 would like to lose as much weight as I can while I'm here 03:28 and then continue once I go home. And I would like to have 03:35 energy and be able to walk and not be all out of breath. 03:43 Welcome back friends, and as I promised... Lucy, how are you 03:48 dear. All right. Lucy Lovey. But as a I called you earlier Lovey 03:52 Buggy and I asked you if anybody called you that. You said a lot. 03:57 Not Lovey Buggy, just Lovey. I didn't get that other part. Just 04:02 Lovey. I heard something 04:06 different. So I'm going to call you Lovey. Is that okay? 04:09 Okay, that's fine. All right so you got here. We 04:14 saw when you first arrived we just say your interview, the 04:17 first one. What's changed? Has anything changed? 04:22 A lot has changed. I didn't know what to expect when I came 04:30 although I knew it was going to be positive. What I was not 04:36 expecting was it to be like a little bit of heaven here. 04:43 You weren't expecting that? 04:46 No, I was not expecting prayer before everything, even getting 04:53 on a bus we pray. The massage therapist before she touches me 05:01 she prays. The doctor prays before... I mean I'm so prayed 05:08 up. I mean I feel so elevated. I mean I feel so protected with 05:16 all these prayers constantly every day, all the time, no 05:21 matter who I talk to. So I was not expecting that. That was a 05:27 very pleasant surprise. I was expecting everybody to be nice. 05:33 You know I'm not surprised by that. But you know you could be 05:40 nice because it's your job and it's protocol. But you guys are 05:47 not nice because of that. You're nice because it's in your nature 05:53 God's nature is in you and you're genuinely nice. You don't 05:58 have to try, it just comes automatically. I feel that. 06:03 That's so precious. 06:05 I feel that and that is what I'm thinking and I'm going to feel 06:14 so drastically changed too because of it. You know people 06:18 are nice when I am but this is different. This is really... 06:24 This is like it's going to be like after Jesus comes back, 06:30 how everybody's going to be so loving and so carefree and so 06:35 nice, so genuine. It's going to be great. So I'm getting a 06:42 little glimpse of what I think it's going to be like in our 06:48 next life. So how about you physically. 06:53 What's happened? Are you still on medication? 06:58 Yeah. Physically I came with a lot of medical problems. Then I 07:05 got sicker because there were other things that were 07:10 happening that just kind of blossomed here. Not as a 07:15 consequence of being here but because they had them in me and 07:21 they just... Yeah. So, but I see the changes and I am getting 07:26 better. But it's a long process because you know when you have 07:31 so much to work with, you know. 07:36 So were you taken off any of your medications? 07:39 I've been kind of taking myself off a little bit. Dr. Lukens... 07:45 Then I got to go back because my blood pressure shoots up. 07:51 So we're both trying to get me off. When the blood pressure 07:55 goes up, so I'm back on medicine but I don't intend to be there 08:01 forever. I lost 10 pounds. I've got a whole lot to go but those 08:05 10 pounds, already I feel, you know, I'm feeling it and that 08:10 is a good thing. Dr. Lukens shared with me and 08:17 we're going to be interviewing him in just a little bit, that 08:21 your walk, he walked with you back up that little slope from 08:26 the medical facility, he said you did really, really well 08:32 compared to when you first arrived. So what do you think 08:39 of the food here? The food is, it's good. 08:45 It's not like we fix at home. 08:47 No but it's... The people use good imagination and they can 08:54 do miracles with vegetables. The only thing is that since I 09:00 love a lot of seasoning, I think I would do with even more. 09:06 Amen. See that's the way my wife cooks. We use a lot of seasoning 09:11 A lot of garlic and onions and a little seasoning. 09:16 I says I'll die of anything but I'll never die of cancer, not 09:19 with all the garlic I eat. 09:23 So are you satisfied with the results, really, truly satisfied 09:28 I'm looking forward to coming back. Yes, I'm looking forward 09:33 to coming back when I get quite a bit thinner because I wasn't 09:38 able to do what the other people did. I wasn't able to go on 09:42 hikes, I wasn't able to do all the... They would go and they 09:48 would come back. Oh I did three miles. I'd be pooped out just 09:53 going to the doctor's office and back, I'm panting, so I knew 09:58 I couldn't do it. 10:00 Well, we're going to get you back here and when you come back 10:03 can we interview you again? 10:04 Oh absolutely. So our viewers can see how 10:07 you've changed. Yeah. I would love to bring my 10:09 son here, one of my sons. He's in the restaurant business and 10:14 you know he goes to the kitchen and he'll pick a little and he's 10:19 getting... He's very muscular but he's getting a big gut. 10:26 And I tell him, I don't want you to wind up like me. 10:29 So we already covered the medication but have you stopped 10:36 any of the medication at all? 10:38 I'm on very little medication. It's only on blood pressure 10:43 medication. Primarily blood pressure. 10:46 That's all I take. So how's your heart feel after 10:49 being here for a couple of weeks? 10:53 Good. I'm out of breath but it's not 10:57 from my heart. It's from my lungs. 11:00 Yes. And how about your cholesterol numbers? Did they 11:05 change? I think they got a little higher 11:08 The doctor told me this morning the triglycerides went up a 11:13 little bit but he says those things happen. Some somehow I 11:18 wasn't concerned about that because I trust Dr. Lukens. 11:24 I feel that I lose a few more pounds and that will go down. 11:30 And I definitely am not going back to no cholesterol 11:34 medication. Lovey, we're out of time but I 11:37 wanted to thank you for coming here and sharing with us and 11:42 God bless you. I'll be in touch with you in about three weeks. 11:46 Yes okay. Friends don't go away, we'll be 11:50 back after this. 11:54 ¤ ¤ 12:23 Welcome back friends and help me welcome Dr. Lukens. 12:30 It's a pleasure. This is a very interesting case and it's a 12:33 little different than some so I think a lot of people can be 12:37 edified by this. Well it's a special case for me 12:40 because this is my sister, as I told you earlier. You said, well 12:43 how are you related. I said we're both members of the zipper 12:47 club. And the people who've had open heart surgery know what I'm 12:50 talking about. You have a big scar down your chest as you 12:54 know and it looks like a zipper for some folks. In any case, 12:58 let's talk about her and how she's doing. 13:01 Okay the main thing for her is that her heart has not been good 13:08 and that any time you have a major operation like that it's 13:14 tough on you and she kind of wishes that she had done this 13:20 instead because her heart could have gotten stronger and it's 13:25 getting stronger now. The thing is even after she's had the 13:30 operation the heart is still large and it's flabby and it's 13:34 not beating well. She still has a high blood pressure that she 13:39 had and she's still got marginal kidneys. The doctor said you 13:44 know Lucy your kidneys are just kind of holding their own but 13:47 they're not really good. You've got to stay on top of this. 13:52 So you know your kidneys are going to function for as long as 13:56 you need them. Then another thing is when she came in and 14:00 we didn't know this, because we didn't know her, she had high 14:05 blood pressure. We knew that she was on medications for heart 14:09 failure, we knew that she was on medications for edema; she was 14:13 having swelling in her legs and she was having all these things 14:19 but she just kept coughing. So the nurses go in to find out 14:26 what her O2 saturation was and it would go way, way down. So then 14:31 actually one of the nights both of them were right with her 14:36 during the night, they were really concerned about it. So we 14:40 couldn't tell is this because of heart failure, is this because 14:48 of ones that have like emphysema Is this because of some kind of 14:53 an acute process. Then when we got her blood back, we thought 15:00 oh no, her hemoglobin is only 9. You know and for a woman 15:05 labs are different but 12-14 is about right and when you have 15:11 kidney disease, chronic kidney disease, your kidneys stop 15:16 sending messages through to the bone marrow "make more red blood 15:21 cells. We're running out of oxygen. We need more red blood 15:26 cells. And we need more hemoglobin in the red blood 15:30 cells and we're starving for oxygen so make more. " When the 15:35 kidneys are damaged if it's diabetes, if it's from high 15:39 blood pressure, whatever, when the kidneys stop functioning 15:43 well and they stop sending that message through to the bone 15:47 marrow and when your hemoglobin gets low enough you're just kind 15:52 dragging around and you're not oxygenating your blood and then 15:57 you just feel very weak and you're just not functioning well 16:01 So then the idea would be to treat the kidneys. That'll take 16:05 care of a multitude of problems. 16:07 Yeah, but how do you treat the kidneys when you're ready for 16:10 dialysis. That's your job. 16:15 That's nobody's job. But there are companies that make 16:18 injections, they're very expensive and the injections 16:21 now tell the bone marrow now make more red blood cells, kick 16:27 up the hemoglobin so we can get more oxygen. But I mean 16:32 that's... But how is it that the 16:35 hemoglobin has raised to 10 and she's been here now and after 16:40 the second blood draw it is increased. Did she receive 16:44 injections. No but she forgot to tell us 16:48 that she was hemorrhaging. And that was the greatest thing, 16:53 that was the thing that just lifted my spirits because when 16:57 we got the first one they sent us the alert, you know, this is 17:02 too low. So then what I thought of that, Oh no. Now here's 17:05 somebody whose kidneys have failed enough she's going to 17:09 have to be on these injections at 85 years of age, you know, 17:12 who's going to pay for the injections and all this stuff. 17:16 So I was so thrilled because when she stopped the 17:20 hemorrhaging then within a little bit over a week the 17:24 hemoglobin came up to a gram- and-a-half more. She was in the 17:29 10s and so that was great. You know I was just like ho good and 17:34 that left a load off of me. 17:36 Now what about the heart? The heart has gotten better and 17:40 there's evidence of that. 17:41 Yeah, she was having trouble because trying to go down to the 17:45 clinic, you know, they had to help her down to the clinic. 17:51 And then she's one of these go getters. She's, like they 17:56 say, a self-made person. She's done a lot of things in her life 18:00 but she would try to get back up from the clinic and it's quite 18:06 an uphill climb. And so I would walk with her and I'd say now 18:11 Lucy use your walker and go along. You don't have to sit in 18:16 it you don't have to stand 18:18 there and puff to try to get your oxygen level back up again, 18:23 but just go slower so that on the next to the last visit, I 18:27 walked up with her. It was a beautiful, sunny day and she 18:31 would keep pushing on. I'd say no, no, no. So then what she 18:34 finally realized was let's just walk slowly and she walked all 18:38 the way from the clinic all the way up to the lodge and she 18:42 didn't have to stop. She's happy She knows this is the beginning 18:48 she's got to do this. There are two things that really help the 18:55 kidneys. One is is that the heart gets stronger. So her 18:59 heart when it's stronger it's going to pump better and so it's 19:04 going to have more pressure into the kidneys, more blood will go 19:08 into the kidneys and more blood will be filtered. The other 19:12 thing is, is that the plant based foods, the amino acids 19:17 the ratio of amino acids in plant based foods are the very 19:22 amino acids that the body needs to build good human albumin. 19:27 There's two factors here, two main factors. One is that within 19:32 three days her heart is pumping better. 19:34 Three days, wow! 19:37 Yeah we have people that pump a lot of water out of their legs 19:42 between Monday and Thursday. I think the record so far for a 19:46 week is 30 pounds of water pumped out. So anyway when the 19:50 heart is stronger then it can pump more blood through the 19:54 kidneys and then that makes the kidneys function better. The 19:58 other thing is the protein in the plant-based died is the very 20:03 protein, the amino acids, that the body needs and not the ones 20:07 that it doesn't need. So it's not such a big load on the 20:11 kidneys to try to get it all out. So those two main things 20:15 help and we have a lot of people that have never had to 20:18 go on dialysis. Well I'm so glad to hear that 20:20 she's doing better. What's the prognosis? What does she do 20:24 after she leaves here? 20:27 Well, she realizes she needs to stay on the diet and then... 20:32 See she was coughing, coughing, coughing because she also had 20:36 pneumonia when she came here. So she's got all these different 20:42 things. I saw her today and she's looking great compared to 20:46 then. I said, you were pretty sick when you came here. And she 20:50 said I was very sick. 20:52 I gave a lecture and you walked in last Sabbath and she coughed 20:58 most of the time. 21:02 Yeah, that was the last part of her pneumonia, yes. Yeah, we had 21:06 to put her on antibiotics too. 21:09 Well she looks better in any case and I will be following up 21:15 with her as I do with all guests that want us to follow up 21:20 and hopefully inspire her to continue on. 21:24 Yeah, well she feels strong enough now to be directive to 21:28 her children again so they're going to realize that she's 21:31 better and they want her to do well. 21:33 Now how'd she do on the second treadmill, did she do okay? 21:37 No she didn't do the treadmill. 21:39 Oh, she didn't do that. Okay. So how is it that you're aware 21:44 that the heart is doing a better job? 21:46 Well when she first came they had to bring her down to the 21:52 clinic to take her to her first appointment and then now she's 21:57 able to walk down and then on the way back she'd have to just 22:01 stop and walk a few steps and then stop and walk a few steps. 22:05 Now she's able to walk without any problems. 22:08 Yeah. She still uses her walker for her balance, yeah. 22:14 Okay, well that's good news. So any other problems that we 22:19 could talk about with regards to her? 22:22 No. The fact that she's going to tell you that she's doing better 22:26 Well I want to thank you once again. You're always so welcome 22:30 here and it's always great to see you and talk with you. 22:34 Friends thank you for joining us. We've got a message to 22:38 follow. Hold on there. Don't go away. 22:40 First deadly psychological sin is criticism. Criticism. I don't 22:48 know if you've borne the brunt of being raised in a critical home 22:55 but human beings are by nature negatively focused and problem 23:01 focused. In fact, research has shown that 75 per cent of the 23:06 interactions between teachers in elementary school and their 23:11 students is negative. Research has also shown that in a child's 23:15 lifetime from birth to 18 years old he hears the word no from 23:20 his parents 148,000 times. Bottom line of all this is that 23:25 positive interaction, and particularly affirmation versus 23:29 criticism is a learned skill. It's something we have to do 23:33 proactively and intentionally or we will revert back to our 23:37 critical patterns. The story is told of a young man who was 23:41 complaining about the hymns at church. He said they were very 23:44 boring. His father said well if you're going to complain about 23:47 it then write one of your own. The boy went into his bedroom 23:51 and he wrote the hymn When I Survey the Wondrous Cross. The 23:56 young man was Isaac Watts and he went on to write over 350 24:01 many of them famous hymns including Joy to the World. 24:03 So there's a place for criticism Criticism serves a function. We 24:07 by nature as human beings are capable of reason and what we 24:12 call critical thinking. All criticism is not bad but we need 24:15 to sort of capture this beast and train it so that it benefits 24:19 us and others. Scientific research has shown that people 24:24 that are raised in critical environments where there's much 24:29 criticism among the family of origin tend to have more 24:32 depression diagnoses and more depressive symptoms. In fact a 24:37 critical environment at home has been associated with a 24:40 broad spectrum of mental illnesses such as schizophrenia 24:44 and other psychotic disorders. I have a quote here from 24:47 Abraham Lincoln... 24:52 In order to find out if you have the heart to help that person I 24:56 recommend that you ask yourself three questions before 24:59 criticizing them. Number one: Do I love to criticize or do I hate 25:02 to criticize. If you love it I think you need to give yourself 25:07 pause there. Number two: Am I doing it to help? Is that my 25:11 motive? Number three: Will I do it kindly and will I do it to 25:17 that person's face? Beware of Cyber criticism. Cyber criticism 25:22 can easily turn into a form of cyber bullying. It's really best 25:26 when you're addressing sensitive topics to talk to that person 25:29 eyeball to eyeball so to speak. The replacement for criticism 25:34 I'm sure you're dying to know. Very simple. It's affirmation. 25:37 Learn to affirm people. This does not come naturally to us. 25:41 I recommend that if you're a critiholic, we might call it, 25:45 that you go on a criticism fast for two to three weeks where 25:49 you criticize nothing, no one, not even yourself, for three 25:54 weeks. I challenge you to try that. Then after than when you 25:58 issue a criticism always do it in affirmation sandwich style. 26:03 You affirm that person, then you issue the criticism and then you 26:07 follow it up with another affirmation. This helps to 26:10 soften the blow. Marriage expert John Godman says that in order 26:15 to neutralize the emotional impact of the criticism one must 26:19 affirm five times. So remember that ratio. Five affirmations 26:24 to one criticism. What is the effect of an affirming 26:28 environment in the home. We've talked about the effect of a 26:31 critical environment. What's the effect of an affirming 26:34 environment? Some research has shown that there's a positive 26:40 correlation between fatherly affirmation and high self- 26:44 esteem in girls. There's a negative correlation between 26:49 fatherly affirmation 26:52 and fear of intimacy. So in other words, if fathers affirm 26:56 their daughters, they're likely to feel good about themselves 26:59 and they're likely to be able to develop healthy relationships 27:02 Sounds like a good thing to do. Try starting today affirming 27:05 someone that you would normally criticize. And usually, I hate 27:08 to say it, but it's those that are closest to us that we tend 27:11 to be so critical of. But try turning that around and 27:15 intentionally proactively affirming that person. 27:18 They won't know what happened. 27:20 Well friends that's it for today but join us next week for 27:24 another episode. In the meantime pick up a phone and give us a 27:30 call at 800-525-9192. Mention the NEWSTART Now program and 27:37 receive the NEWSTART special. |
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