Every year in America
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there are over
one million deaths
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because of Type 2
diabetes and chronic obesity.
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This includes heart
attacks and strokes.
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That's six and half
747s crashing every day.
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What's even more surprising
is that the fix is easy.
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It's your lifestyle.
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Wouldn't it be nice
if you could actually add
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quality years to your life
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rather than dying
one organ at a time?
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Obesity and diabetes
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are the cause of over
million deaths per year.
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Most diseases are reversible
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because most diseases
are lifestyle diseases,
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especially Type 2
diabetes and chronic obesity.
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Seriously now,
they can be reversed
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and the quality of
your life can be renewed.
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The Newstart programs
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Hi, friends, and welcome
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to another
edition of Newstart Now.
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I'm your host Ron Giannoni.
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In our studio with me today
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we have a young gentleman
by the name of Richard Bell
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from Alberta, Canada.
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Let's take a look
when he first arrived.
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I've had several heart
events over the last eight years
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and the most recent
one of course occurred on--
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In February of this year 2014.
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And that event was actually
a third heart attack for me
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and I suppose the reason
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that drove me to having to do
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something was the fact
that I have already been,
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had two previous heart attacks
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and have gone
through a stenting process
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and this time here
of course the blockages
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were severe enough and
there was enough of them
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that cardiologist that was
in charge there said that week,
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the only option now is
to have a coronary bypass
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which I had in March,
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so I'm still in the
healing process from that,
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but that was really the climax
or the crux of the whole matter
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was that I had to do
something or try to determine
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what was the cause
of my health problems
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and the plugging
up on my arteries
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which I've had over
the last eight years.
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Of course, one of my
objectives would be to
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get to the cause
or the root cause
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of why I've had
these ongoing problems
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as well as perhaps
retain my pilot's license
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credentials back again
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through showing
medical fitness for that.
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And we have to tweak up
our lifestyle little bit
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every life that has, you know,
this is a lifestyle disease
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so there's gonna
have to be some changes.
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I'm not exactly
sure what they are
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or what they are
going to be right now
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early in the program
but, you know, I've got a wife
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that's very supportive of me
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and she is here to
support me with that.
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So between the two of us,
I think we worked this out.
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Welcome back, friends.
Rich, how are you, sir?
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Oh, really good. Thanks.
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You know, I had the pleasure
of being in the clinic today
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when you were
doing your treadmill.
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I guess you
noticed that. Yes, I did.
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You did remarkably well.
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Now how many minutes did
you do the treadmill, 13, 14?
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No actually it was
12.5 as there was, you know,
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up to 12 minutes and
Dr. Lukens has asked me
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if I had any
reserve energy to push on
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for another 30
seconds at the higher rate.
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So I attempted that, evidently
I was successful but, yeah.
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Yeah, you did great.
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I was particularly impressed
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because as I told you
before the interview started,
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we're both members
of the Zipper Club.
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I don't know
that I could have done
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what you did four, five months
after my open heart surgery.
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And here I was
watching you do that.
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You have had as you
testified earlier on the show
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a three way bypass
because your cardiologist said
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that the stents
wouldn't do any good
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because of multiple blockages.
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So you came to
the Newstart program
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to do what specifically?
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Well, in the back of
my mind after the surgery,
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I have the idea that now what,
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because I realized
that once you are bypassed
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that how can I make sure
that there is no blockages
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that come into the bypass.
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I mean, I'm concerned
about what are my options
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and I don't want to
run out of options I guess
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as long as I can
regain my health.
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So that's really why I'm here.
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That was in the
back of my mind as to,
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I don't want to
plug up what I got,
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what I just got repaired.
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So we came here
really on the recommendation
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of some friends that
we met that suggested
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that we ought
to try the program.
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Of course, it was some
also some financial incentives
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that were here for the session
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that kind of
sprung us out here so.
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Let me ask you this, Rick,
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do you feel
since you've been here
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that you have learned
and have the tools now
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to keep your
arteries clear and clean?
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I would say so. I would say so.
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And the big this is
now it's time to exercise
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my will to make
sure that happens
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but yeah, I've
learned some things.
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I mean, as far
as diet and so on.
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Few modifications would
be required in our diet.
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It isn't that we were,
we've been largely following
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what I would call
a semi-veg lifestyles
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as far as our diet is concerned
and as well as our exercise too
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and but no, I learned a
few things here that said,
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"No, this isn't is
healthy as it should be.
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Right.
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And so when you came here
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how many
medications were you taking?
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I was taking five.
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And how many you are taking
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now that you have
been here two weeks?
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Well, Dr. Lukens said
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they're gonna
drop the medications
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that was done after
the third or fourth day
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I think into the program.
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Haven't touched any since.
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There was blood
pressure medication
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and there was a
cholesterol medication
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and acid reflux medication
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and an aspirin to send
the blood out and so on.
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I'm forgetting
one but anyway, yeah,
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we're all often haven't
touched it before the last one.
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How is your blood
pressure now? Well, it's...
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It is slightly elevated
towards the end of the day,
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I have noticed.
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And I say, I
emphasize a slightly part.
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I mean, that's a
concern I want to make sure
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that can get down little lower.
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Actually during the
early parts of the day,
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yeah, we had
been able to sustain
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a same blood
pressure that I was on
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when I was taking the pill so--
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Now what is that?
What's the numbers?
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Well, I'm running
between 120 and 125
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and between 80 and 85
those are my good numbers
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that I started at
the beginning of the day.
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Towards the end of the day,
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the numbers are
getting up in the mid 130s
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the bottom number of course
is not usually higher than 85.
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So it might peak at 85
but it doesn't go any higher.
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Yeah. Good. Good.
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Yeah, so been
able to control that.
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So your doctor--
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Did you find anything unusual
about visiting the doctors
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at the Newstart program
as opposed to perhaps doctors
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that you have visited with,
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I don't know well,
in Canada for instance.
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Well, yeah, there
was some differences.
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I think, I've got a very
good general practitioner
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back in my home, his home city
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and but what I've
been led to believe is that
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by the general practitioner
is that the protocol
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is to after open heart surgery,
these are the pills that you...
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That everybody takes as long
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as they live to
handle the problems
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of high blood
pressure and high cholesterol
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and that wasn't mentioned here.
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That was, the thing was
whole plant food based diet
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and proper exercise
and what goes on water
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and proper sunlight
and exercise and so on.
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But no, whereas the
doctors generally followed
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a thing that this is
a drug that will repair,
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where that will
moderate your blood pressure
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and this is a drug that will fix
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your cholesterol
problem and so on.
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And the doctors here of
course were saying that,
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"No, you can do this
in alternate way that
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so they won't suffer
from the side effects
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of the pharmaceuticals
that you are on so."
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Yeah, that's the
route we've taken
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and it's worked so far.
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Did you find it unusual
that when you went to visit
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your doctor that he
spent an hour with you
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or did he spend
an hour with you?
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I think it was half an hour.
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I think we had
half hour sessions
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or something like that.
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Yeah, we were able to discuss
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in depth some of my
health issues and...
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So what about the
program that you like most?
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Well, I think the
thing that benefited me
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the most was the rigid exercise.
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I mean, we were part of a
maybe 5 o'clock walking group
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and the fact
that, that we walked
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I guess in the 16 days
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that I've been here
walked close to 80 miles.
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So it was just
part of the program
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and it probably
benefited me the most
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and I'm gonna add
due to the fact that
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I've lost a few pounds,
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So I think more like
six or seven I've lost,
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and the idea that
no eating between meals
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and eating high
fiber diet, low fat
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and so on has
definitely benefited me.
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I never realized, you know,
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there's not such a
thing as overeating here.
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In fact, that we went
on a part of the program
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was a three day fast
that we went on initially
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after about the third
or fourth day we were here.
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The option was given to us
to go on this three day fast
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and yeah, we partook it.
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To say it was easy
would be, would not be correct
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because it got fairly
difficult but like I say,
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I was able to get through it.
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And it just seems
like after we went back
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to a normal eating pattern
that I didn't eat as much.
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Yes.
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I just felt that
there're sufficient food
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and yeah, I
didn't require any eating
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between meals and still don't...
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Yeah, I'm eating
smaller portions and so on.
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Rich, I want to thank
you for taking your time
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and coming on the program
and giving your testimony.
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And I'll be doing the
follow up and God bless you
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and we'll be
calling you in Canada
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and kind of
coaching you from here.
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I appreciate that
and thank you very much.
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Yes, and friends don't go away,
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the doctor will be right with us
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right after this
very important message.
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Welcome back, friends,
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and help me to say
hello to Dr. Lukens.
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Very good, this is a
really interesting case.
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Yeah, it is an interesting case.
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And it's typical, I
wish it wasn't typical
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but it's very
typical of what happens.
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Yeah, I like to go back to '06
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because that's when he
originally had a problem
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and he went in
for... tell us about that?
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He went in for stent? Yeah.
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He was having coronary event
and that was in the record,
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so I don't know
how severe it was
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but they stented him.
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Then in '09 he was
having another event
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and they stented him again.
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And then in
March... Of this year.
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Of 2014 he comes in
there and they let...
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You know, they do
an angiogram on him
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and they say, you know,
this time we've got to cut.
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Right, so they go in and they do
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a bypass surgery on him
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and now he is
supposed to be good
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for the next 12 years.
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My 12 years are up. Okay.
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It was nice knowing you.
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No, I said that
because that has been
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about 13 years ago
that I had five way bypass.
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But I want to talk
about the medications, doc,
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because there
seems to be some...
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there's two sides of
the street as it were.
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There are some
doctors that believe
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you should be taking this
and others say you shouldn't.
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Let's talk about statins. Okay.
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Well, my family
practice journals
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and the newsletter.
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We are in primary care
and a person may have four
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or five specialists
that are working on him.
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And so they tell
him when I go to review,
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"You are the primary care person
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and you have to
coordinate all the other doctors
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in the medications."
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So if they're on 12 medications
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they are gonna be
fighting each other.
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And so they
say, what you want...
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"What we want you to do
as a family practitioner
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as you look at those medications
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and see which ones you
can take the patient off of."
00:15:46.11\00:15:50.21
And they say, "If you
take them off of the ones
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that you really, you know,
they might have been put on
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for various reasons that
weren't life threatening,
00:15:55.22\00:15:57.65
take them off of
as much as you can
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and they get well."
00:15:59.82\00:16:02.02
Because there's side effects
00:16:02.06\00:16:03.56
when they are
fighting each other.
00:16:03.59\00:16:04.93
Now, that's kind of simplistic
but the one that's a problem
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that I see is that
when you take a statin
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is going to
lower your cholesterol,
00:16:13.70\00:16:18.14
your triglycerides
00:16:18.17\00:16:20.08
and lower the so
called bad cholesterol,
00:16:20.11\00:16:23.08
the LDL cholesterol.
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Well, what's wrong with that?
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Well, there is
nothing wrong with it
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except that it doesn't
do anything for your health.
00:16:28.88\00:16:31.82
Because when
those numbers go down,
00:16:31.85\00:16:35.02
then you feel comfortable.
00:16:35.06\00:16:37.86
You feel reassured
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but the disease
process is still going on.
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Now I'd like the viewers
to pay particular attention
00:16:43.37\00:16:46.77
to what Dr. Lukens
is saying right now.
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Because when I'm
hearing you say, doctor,
00:16:49.90\00:16:52.77
and correct me I'm wrong.
00:16:52.81\00:16:54.41
We can take statins,
I used to take statins.
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However, five years ago
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as I'm journeying across
the country to North Carolina
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to do a reverse
in diabetes program,
00:17:04.25\00:17:06.92
I get a phone
call from Dr. Lukens.
00:17:06.96\00:17:09.52
Dr. Lukens and I are
talking about the statins
00:17:09.56\00:17:11.99
that I'm taking and he says
00:17:12.03\00:17:13.80
"It doesn't lessen the
frequencies of heart attack."
00:17:13.83\00:17:16.67
So I said, "What
am I taking them for?"
00:17:16.70\00:17:18.30
He says, "Well, why don't
you stop see what happens."
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Five years I had
been without statins
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and I feel great.
00:17:23.57\00:17:25.77
So why is it
better to not take them
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because you get the real
count is that what's going on?
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Lifestyle is the only
way that it really works.
00:17:32.95\00:17:35.95
See, Richard Bell comes in
and he is on the most promoted
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of all the statins right now
00:17:41.32\00:17:43.39
and his total cholesterol is 95.
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We want it below 150.
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If I talk to you
and I say, "Listen, Ron,
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I want your cholesterol,
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you total cholesterol
to be below 150, okay.
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And yours is 95,
you know that, you see."
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So I say now, "Now
look, you have to do this,
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the lifestyle, the exercise
all these kind of things."
00:18:03.24\00:18:06.65
You know, I see your
eyes just glaze over.
00:18:06.68\00:18:09.48
You switched off and
then you are so reassured.
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You don't really
have to change anything.
00:18:12.75\00:18:14.72
That's the point.
00:18:14.76\00:18:16.09
We have a lot of
people who come here
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to the Newstart program
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that several of
which this could be one
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that feel okay,
because the numbers look good.
00:18:23.57\00:18:26.60
But after taking them
off these medications,
00:18:26.63\00:18:30.07
the numbers show
where they really are
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and it changes their attitude
about how they should eat,
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exercise, rest etcetera.
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Is that what
you're saying? Yeah.
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And the statins have
always been quite controversial.
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Some of them are
counterproductive
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for other reasons too.
00:18:48.62\00:18:50.53
So Richard comes in
and he trains pilots
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in many different,
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at many different
levels up in Canada.
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Right.
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And of course after
he has his bypass surgery
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and stuff like that
it's kind of like, well...
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So he wants to go
back and get checked out.
00:19:07.24\00:19:11.58
So when he came in,
it hadn't been that long
00:19:11.61\00:19:15.98
since he had his bypass surgery.
00:19:16.02\00:19:17.69
So we put him on
the treadmill, I said,
00:19:17.72\00:19:19.29
"Don't do, don't do too much.
00:19:19.32\00:19:21.62
Just do what you can do."
00:19:21.66\00:19:23.19
Well, he did as much as he could
00:19:23.22\00:19:24.56
and it was 10 minutes.
00:19:24.59\00:19:25.93
Well, that's good.
00:19:25.96\00:19:27.30
Well, it isn't, it isn't
but his blood pressure drop,
00:19:27.33\00:19:31.43
so I knew that he
had done a maximal test.
00:19:31.47\00:19:33.67
Well, you know,
fortunately his bypass crafts
00:19:33.70\00:19:37.34
were holding up.
00:19:37.37\00:19:38.77
So anyway the next time though,
00:19:38.81\00:19:40.98
I realized that he
had done these things
00:19:41.01\00:19:43.95
that we asked him to do
and we took him off the statin
00:19:43.98\00:19:47.55
and his cholesterol went up,
his total cholesterol went up,
00:19:47.58\00:19:51.42
it was still under 150
00:19:51.45\00:19:52.95
but it was up to like
135 or something there.
00:19:52.99\00:19:56.29
But now he knows what it is.
00:19:56.32\00:19:58.39
So he gets on the
treadmill and I said,
00:19:58.43\00:20:00.83
"Well, what's the
criteria for this guy?"
00:20:00.86\00:20:03.03
He said, "I have to be
able to do 12 minutes."
00:20:03.06\00:20:06.13
So I said, "Well,
let's see where it goes
00:20:06.17\00:20:07.50
but don't over do it."
00:20:07.54\00:20:08.90
So he goes out, he
hits a 12 minute mark
00:20:08.94\00:20:11.34
and I'm happy when then
he says, "I want to go on."
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That's the next
step and he goes on
00:20:13.58\00:20:15.48
for another 30 seconds so, I
said, "Well, show them that."
00:20:15.51\00:20:18.18
I was there.
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Good. Wonderful.
00:20:19.58\00:20:20.92
You remember I
was assisting that--
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Oh, yeah. Yeah.
00:20:22.48\00:20:23.99
Yeah, you were. Yeah.
00:20:24.02\00:20:25.35
He did great. He
kind of went on further.
00:20:25.39\00:20:28.39
Some of the
patients scare me to death
00:20:28.42\00:20:30.09
because they've already
decided what they are gonna do
00:20:30.13\00:20:32.99
before they get on
the treadmill and...
00:20:33.03\00:20:34.86
Let me make a point here.
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The people that are
going to look at him
00:20:39.47\00:20:43.17
making it for 12 minutes
00:20:43.20\00:20:45.07
are the same people
that are gonna authorize him
00:20:45.11\00:20:48.74
to have his license
back, so he can fly and teach--
00:20:48.78\00:20:52.85
Is that correct?
Yeah, exactly right.
00:20:52.88\00:20:54.72
Now I just talked to him
about three or four days ago
00:20:54.75\00:21:00.16
and he is having
this terrible chest pain.
00:21:00.19\00:21:02.89
You know, and so they
take him into the hospital
00:21:02.92\00:21:06.16
and they do all the tests on him
00:21:06.19\00:21:08.10
and they say, you
aren't having a heart attack,
00:21:08.13\00:21:09.46
you can go home now.
00:21:09.50\00:21:10.83
He says, but I'm
having so much pain.
00:21:10.87\00:21:14.20
He said, what I
do about the pain?
00:21:14.24\00:21:16.00
It could have been that
stake he ate the night before.
00:21:16.04\00:21:18.17
No, he didn't. No, he didn't.
00:21:18.21\00:21:19.64
I'm just kidding.
I'm kidding. I'm kidding.
00:21:19.67\00:21:21.44
So anyway, this is the
part that I don't understand.
00:21:21.48\00:21:25.91
His surgeon does the surgery
00:21:25.95\00:21:29.68
and then he's supposed to
see his surgeon postoperatively,
00:21:29.72\00:21:33.76
but I don't know
what the story was,
00:21:33.79\00:21:35.99
he goes back to his primary care
00:21:36.02\00:21:38.66
and they check him
out and everything.
00:21:38.69\00:21:41.33
I mean, now he
has this horrible pain
00:21:41.36\00:21:43.40
and I said,
"Well, what is your...
00:21:43.43\00:21:46.03
You know, the doc, the
surgeon that did the operation,
00:21:46.07\00:21:49.50
what does he think
that the pain is from
00:21:49.54\00:21:51.51
because it's not your heart?"
00:21:51.54\00:21:53.51
I knew what it is, you know.
00:21:53.54\00:21:55.64
I mean, it takes a while
for those to knit sometimes
00:21:55.68\00:22:00.15
and sometimes a wire
gets a little bit lose
00:22:00.18\00:22:03.05
and they haven't
knitted back together again.
00:22:03.08\00:22:06.05
He said, well,
you know, they said,
00:22:06.09\00:22:07.42
that "I was supposed to
see him postoperatively"
00:22:07.46\00:22:09.72
and he said "I had
the operation in..."
00:22:09.76\00:22:13.56
In March. Yeah.
00:22:13.60\00:22:15.33
Well, the heart attack in March
and March-April is the surgery
00:22:15.36\00:22:20.47
and he said, "I'm
really not scheduled
00:22:20.50\00:22:21.97
to see the doctor
until March-April of 2015.
00:22:22.00\00:22:28.24
Well, we don't know
about Canadian medicine.
00:22:28.28\00:22:30.98
No, no, no, don't you say that.
00:22:31.01\00:22:32.35
No, I won't say that.
00:22:32.38\00:22:33.72
I take that back. Erase that.
00:22:33.75\00:22:35.08
You know what?
00:22:35.12\00:22:36.45
The thing is that
there are so many people
00:22:36.48\00:22:38.32
that need so much healthcare
00:22:38.35\00:22:39.92
and people's
health is getting worse.
00:22:39.95\00:22:42.19
Every person has to be a
captain of their own health
00:22:42.22\00:22:46.26
and that's the reason why we...
00:22:46.29\00:22:48.30
I'm so thrilled that
you are following people up.
00:22:48.33\00:22:51.33
Me too and I'm
thrilled that you are here
00:22:51.37\00:22:53.77
and we're able
to talk with people
00:22:53.80\00:22:56.10
who are watching this program.
00:22:56.14\00:22:58.07
Please take care of yourself.
00:22:58.11\00:23:00.18
You need to come
here, give us a call.
00:23:00.21\00:23:02.78
Call right now.
00:23:02.81\00:23:04.35
Don't go away... Doc, thank you.
00:23:04.38\00:23:07.12
We got to thank you.
00:23:07.15\00:23:08.48
Well, don't go
away and thank you,
00:23:08.52\00:23:10.09
we have an
important message for you.
00:23:10.12\00:23:12.55
Welcome to "Ask the Doctor."
00:23:49.22\00:23:50.79
I'm Dr. David DeRose.
00:23:50.83\00:23:52.43
We're taking your questions
00:23:52.46\00:23:54.03
and we're going
to a question post
00:23:54.06\00:23:55.80
from Bryan in Napa, California.
00:23:55.83\00:23:59.13
Bryan asks, "What is gluten?
And how can it be harmful?
00:23:59.17\00:24:04.07
What's the difference
between gluten intolerance
00:24:04.11\00:24:06.81
and gluten sensitivity?
00:24:06.84\00:24:09.11
And how do I
know if I'm either?"
00:24:09.14\00:24:13.11
Bryan, you are not the
only one asking this question.
00:24:13.15\00:24:15.38
In fact, I've had patients
00:24:15.42\00:24:16.75
and attendees at my conference
they say, "Dr. DeRose,
00:24:16.79\00:24:20.19
what's the matter
with gluten anyway
00:24:20.22\00:24:21.79
because they've been seeing
00:24:21.82\00:24:23.16
all the packing
gluten free, no gluten?"
00:24:23.19\00:24:25.76
Well, there actually
nothing wrong with gluten.
00:24:25.79\00:24:27.33
Gluten is protein
constituent of certain grains
00:24:27.36\00:24:30.40
specifically
barley, rye and wheat.
00:24:30.43\00:24:34.40
But some people have an
intolerance or sensitivity
00:24:34.44\00:24:37.41
or even a frank allergy
00:24:37.44\00:24:39.21
maybe even a
series diseases process
00:24:39.24\00:24:41.41
called celiac
disease where gluten actually
00:24:41.44\00:24:45.45
has become toxic to them.
00:24:45.48\00:24:47.52
Bryan's wondering how do I
know if I've got this problem.
00:24:47.55\00:24:49.85
Well, first of
all if you don't have
00:24:49.88\00:24:51.22
any intestinal problems
and you're feeling great
00:24:51.25\00:24:52.85
and you are eating things
like wheat, barley and rye,
00:24:52.89\00:24:55.12
odds are you have absolutely
no problem with gluten.
00:24:55.16\00:24:57.99
On the other hand, if you
have vague abdominal symptoms,
00:24:58.03\00:25:01.40
unusual skin conditions,
there are some skin conditions
00:25:01.43\00:25:04.20
that can be
related to gluten problems,
00:25:04.23\00:25:05.87
one of them something
called dermatitis herpetiformis.
00:25:05.90\00:25:09.14
I know that's a mouthful,
00:25:09.17\00:25:10.51
it simply means you're
getting little blisters
00:25:10.54\00:25:12.14
like chickenpox type
blisters or herpes type blister
00:25:12.17\00:25:15.94
has nothing to do
with the viral infection.
00:25:15.98\00:25:17.65
It's actually
from a gluten problem.
00:25:17.68\00:25:20.08
So you could have
some problems like this
00:25:20.12\00:25:22.42
and your doctors may
suspect a gluten problem.
00:25:22.45\00:25:25.09
If so, there are some
blood tests that can be done.
00:25:25.12\00:25:27.46
We can actually test to
see if you have antibodies
00:25:27.49\00:25:31.19
to a protein fragment of
gluten it's called gliadin.
00:25:31.23\00:25:35.33
So I would order as
physician if I had a question
00:25:35.36\00:25:38.67
an anti-gliadin antibody.
00:25:38.70\00:25:41.60
If that's positive,
it's at least telling me,
00:25:41.64\00:25:44.24
you've got some
immunologic challenge
00:25:44.27\00:25:47.41
when you are exposed to gluten.
00:25:47.44\00:25:48.78
It doesn't tell me
you've got celiac disease.
00:25:48.81\00:25:50.85
There is some other
markers of intestinal damage
00:25:50.88\00:25:53.95
that we can measure to see
if there is actually problems
00:25:53.98\00:25:56.79
with your intestine from it.
00:25:56.82\00:25:58.19
So let's say we measure that
like a tissue transglutaminase
00:25:58.22\00:26:01.62
and that's also elevated,
so we say this is looking
00:26:01.66\00:26:04.96
like you have a problem, a
serious problem with gluten.
00:26:04.99\00:26:07.40
But if you just have the
antibodies to the gliadin
00:26:07.43\00:26:09.90
and no evidence of
problems to the intestine,
00:26:09.93\00:26:12.13
this is what we usually say
00:26:12.17\00:26:13.64
some degree of
gluten intolerance.
00:26:13.67\00:26:15.37
You may find you do better
if you don't eat as much gluten
00:26:15.40\00:26:18.37
or take a day or two a week
and have no gluten on that day
00:26:18.41\00:26:21.74
just eating
things like rice and corn
00:26:21.78\00:26:24.41
and non-gluten containing grains
00:26:24.45\00:26:27.22
or certified gluten free oats
00:26:27.25\00:26:29.78
if people are
very sensitive to oats.
00:26:29.82\00:26:31.35
They are often
cross contaminated
00:26:31.39\00:26:33.12
with things that contain gluten.
00:26:33.15\00:26:35.32
But the bottom-line is
most people can eat wheat,
00:26:35.36\00:26:38.19
rye, barley and oats
have no problem at all,
00:26:38.23\00:26:41.63
these are
generally healthy foods.
00:26:41.66\00:26:43.16
If you've got a
problem or a question,
00:26:43.20\00:26:45.17
you can have
specific testing done.
00:26:45.20\00:26:46.74
See your doctor or
a healthcare provider
00:26:46.77\00:26:49.07
for that and if
you do have a problem,
00:26:49.10\00:26:51.34
the worse situation if
you got a serious problem
00:26:51.37\00:26:53.74
like celiac disease, you
have to be totally gluten free
00:26:53.78\00:26:57.45
if you want to
have optimal health.
00:26:57.48\00:26:59.35
I'm Dr. David DeRose,
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