Participants: Ron Giannoni (Host), Brian Morse
Series Code: NSN
Program Code: NSN000143A
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00:12 Every year in America there are over 1 million deaths
00:15 because of type 2 diabetes and chronic obesity, 00:18 this include heart attacks and strokes. 00:20 That's six and a half 747s crashing every day. 00:24 What's even more surprising, is that the fix is easy. 00:27 It's your lifestyle. 00:29 Wouldn't it be nice if you could actually add 00:30 quality years to your life 00:32 rather than dying one organ at a time? 00:34 Obesity and diabetes are the cause 00:36 of over a million deaths per year. 00:39 Most diseases are reversible, 00:41 because most diseases are lifestyle diseases, 00:44 especially type 2 diabetes and chronic obesity. 00:47 Seriously now, they can be reversed 00:50 and the quality of your life can be renewed. 00:53 Call NEWSTART today at 1-800-525-9192. 00:59 You will see dramatic changes 01:01 in the first few days at our program 01:03 and you will be on the road 01:04 to a better more robust quality of life. 01:07 The NEWSTART programs are simple and effective. 01:14 Hi, friends and welcome 01:15 to another edition of NEWSTART Now. 01:17 I'm your host Ron Giannoni. 01:20 I have an exciting interview for you today. 01:23 We have Brian Morse, as in Morse code, 01:26 from Organ in our studio. 01:29 Brian, how are you? 01:30 Real good. Real good. 01:31 Good to see you. Oh, thank you 01:33 I want get right into this interview. 01:35 I have lot of questions to ask you. 01:37 Shoot. 01:38 You know, when we did the first interview... 01:43 In fact let's take a look at that right now. 01:47 I look at this-- I've tried to go plan based 01:52 and tried to do more exercises and all that. 01:55 And I look at this as my last chance, 01:57 this is my last hope. 02:00 I just finally realized and admitted to myself 02:05 that I couldn't do it alone. 02:07 I had to have support, I had to have help. 02:11 And for me as a man that's a hard thing to do, 02:14 "you don't ask directions 02:19 when you still got a quarter tank gas" 02:21 type of a thing. 02:23 So it was-- my blood sugar was going out of, 02:29 way out of balance, I wasn't getting any exercise, 02:33 I wasn't eating the right way, 02:34 I knew it but I wasn't able to change. 02:37 I was on insulin the last couple three months 02:40 where I had never been. 02:41 I've always been able to keep things 02:43 with eating fairly reasonable and... 02:49 the pills but now I'm, I'm on insulin. 02:54 I've got-- I've got looking at the-- 02:56 one of them fill out the paper, 02:58 I got an awful lot of pills I'm taking 03:01 and the idea that I can get rid of some of them to, 03:07 say you know, maybe all of them. 03:10 But if I got rid of a lot of them 03:14 I would feel better. 03:16 I've just basically don't feel good. 03:19 I have no energy, I have no spark. 03:23 I don't-- I'm not enjoying life like I know should 03:26 because everything sort of puts together 03:29 and keeps me down, 03:31 and the more I do what I was doing 03:34 the worse I was getting, 03:36 then I was just in the downward spiral. 03:38 Before I leave here, I want to be off insulin, 03:43 I want to have a lot of the medicines I have 03:49 reduced or gone. 03:52 I want to be where I can do the exercises, 03:56 enjoy them being able to have a... 04:02 a life, a vivid life, 04:05 something that you can enjoy 04:07 rather than just putting in time. 04:13 Welcome back, friends, okay we saw the tape. 04:16 We saw you when you first got here. 04:18 You said you were out of energy. 04:20 I mean, you looked depressed to me. 04:22 I was a little bit, I was just down. 04:25 I just didn't-- 04:27 wasn't up, wasn't bright, wasn't happy. 04:29 This was sort of-- 04:31 I was just sort of going through the emotions of living. 04:34 So what's happened in-- That was 2 weeks ago. 04:37 Mm-hmm. 04:38 Now what has happened in last 2 weeks. 04:41 Let's start with-- Let's talk about your weight first. 04:44 Have you lost some weight? I've lost 12 pounds. 04:47 Okay, you've lost-- are you happy with that? 04:50 Well, I wish I had -- lots more 04:52 but, yeah, basically for that short period of time, yes. 04:55 You also mentioned 04:56 that you're taking a lot of medications. 05:00 Now what do you mean by a lot of medications-20, 30? 05:03 No, probably 10 of them. That's a lot. 05:07 And since I've been here, since I've been here, 05:10 I'm off of two of them and reduced on the third one. 05:14 Okay. 05:16 Most importantly, to me personally, 05:19 was I-- I was insulin dependent. 05:22 Yes. 05:23 I was taking 85 units of Lantus a day. 05:29 I'm now taking 10. 05:32 I was taking 45 units of NovoLog 05:36 the short acting one, 05:37 and I'm now taking 20-25 right in that area. 05:41 All right. 05:43 So I've seen a big difference. 05:45 Huge difference. Yes. 05:46 How long have you been diabetic? 05:50 Twenty years, but just recently on insulin. 05:53 A third of your life. 05:54 Uh-huh. 05:56 Well, you know, it gets better, you know that. 05:59 Yes. 06:00 You've been through lectures you've had your-- 06:03 who is your doctor by the way? 06:04 Ing. 06:05 Dr. Ing and Dr. Doug Plata. 06:08 Yes, last 3 days, yes. 06:10 Yes, he'll be-- In fact we're gonna interview 06:13 Dr. Plata, right after this. 06:16 But let's talk about you some more. 06:18 So you've gone off a couple of medications, 06:20 you've cut down your Lantus, and what other medications 06:24 have you omitted or cut back on? 06:28 Cholesterol medicine is gone. No more cholesterol medicine? 06:31 No more cholesterol medication. 06:37 I can never remember all the pills. 06:39 It doesn't matter. 06:40 Anyway, and obviously I'll see the doctor tomorrow 06:45 just before we leave, the day before we leave. 06:48 And I'm assuming that he's going to-- 06:51 he'll have the latest lab results and I'll be... 06:54 Right. ...off more or reduced. 06:57 Right. 06:58 That's what I'm looking for is to get all the way off 07:01 or get it way cut down. 07:03 You had a blood draw the Monday... 07:09 actually, it was the second day you were here 07:11 which was the first full day of the program. 07:13 That Monday and you had another blood draw the day before, 07:17 or yesterday morning you had a blood draw? 07:19 I just came from it. 07:21 Okay, so you're gonna get your results by tomorrow. 07:24 Yes. 07:25 And I know that we're gonna see a great improvement. 07:28 Now. 07:30 Giving example. 07:31 Yeah. 07:32 I was on the treadmill 07:34 and I went a minute and half longer on the treadmill 07:38 at an angle than I was able to do it 2 weeks ago. 07:42 Oh, my. 07:43 So I defeated my legs and my lung capacity. 07:48 Everything it's just better. 07:50 Got better. Yeah. 07:52 How do your legs feel? 07:53 Strong. Okay. 07:56 Before there really wasn't walking or doing anything, 08:01 they were just sort of soft, 08:02 now, even right now I can feel my leg 08:04 and it's not tense but it's firm. 08:08 You got, you got some muscle, huh? 08:09 It's firm, it's usable, where before... 08:12 Yeah, well, you know what they say, 08:15 if you don't use it you'll lose it. 08:19 That is true and I lost it for many years 08:22 and this program was bringing me back, I'm so blessed for it. 08:25 Amen. 08:27 What about this program did you like the most? 08:36 Oh, that's hard to say, 08:37 because it's so good all the way through. 08:40 I'm glad that you say that. 08:41 But... 08:45 I guess, two things: 08:49 The getting me on a totally vegan diet 08:52 and staying with it. 08:54 I made the commitment to do it when I came down, 08:56 and now I honestly feel I can't say with it. 08:59 I can take-- go home and it's just, 09:02 it's just a different kitchen. 09:05 Yeah. 09:06 And the other thing is the exercising, the walking, 09:09 getting me, given me an example. 09:14 I don't know which actually did it. 09:17 But when I came down here, 09:19 my mind was always sort of in a fog. 09:23 Early in the morning, you know, I could do stuff, 09:25 do stuff on the computer I didn't understand, 09:27 I could learn stuff. 09:29 Afternoon, no chance. 09:32 Really? Evening time, no chance. 09:34 Now I'm alert, alive, clear any time of the day. 09:42 Well, you know, there's a lot of reasons for that, 09:44 and you know the nutrition is, is one good, 09:50 another is you're off a couple of medications 09:52 that properly weren't doing you a whole lot of good. 09:55 But to me, I found that walking. 09:58 What walking does for me, it helps me breath deeper, 10:04 it helps me breath more, I'm getting more oxygen 10:08 throughout my body, into the cells, 10:11 into my brain, releasing endorphins 10:14 and it's just like you heard the runner's high? 10:17 I get this walker's high. 10:19 I-- Like this morning, I told you, 10:20 I walked 4 miles this morning, before breakfast. 10:24 And that's-- it just feels good to do that. 10:27 And I want to challenge you, and we're gonna follow up, 10:33 I'll be following up with you, 10:34 I'll be calling you and checking in on you, 10:37 to do 5 miles a day within the next 2-3 weeks. 10:42 I know you're at 3-4 now, 10:44 so increasing by another mile is not a big deal. 10:48 It's nothing. Yeah, yeah. 10:51 You started using walking sticks, did you not? 10:54 I was gonna bring that up. You were, huh? 10:56 Yes, I was waiting for you, I was waiting for you to... 10:59 You were walking with the walking sticks. 11:01 You could barely stand up. 11:04 If that-- If the truth be known. 11:06 Are you using walking sticks now? 11:08 Yes. Oh, you are. 11:10 When I go for walks, not from here to there 11:13 and, you know, building to building or something. 11:15 For long walks. 11:16 When I take off and go for walks. 11:19 And I've always hated walking. 11:21 My wife was always into it and, you know, 11:23 tries to keep me walking, it hurt my hips, you know. 11:26 Well sure. I hated it. 11:29 But once they showed me 11:31 how to set up the walking sticks 11:33 and how to use them properly, 11:36 it's-- you get lot more of your arms and they'd-- 11:41 to sort of help propels you ahead, I enjoy walking. 11:46 The little footpads in the bottom, 11:50 I need a new set. 11:53 But it just-- it makes walking, fun. 11:57 And they have a thing in Norway called Nordic walking. 12:00 Yes. 12:01 And they just-- 12:03 they just out go for walk with sticks, even in the city. 12:06 Going from building to building, 12:08 they're going like that. 12:10 My neighbor is from Norway 12:15 and she uses walking sticks. 12:18 And we you know for a fact they help, 12:22 you know, in many ways, you burn more calories. 12:25 Oh, yeah. 12:26 You get a better workout on you heart, 12:28 so that's a good thing. I'm glad that you took that up. 12:32 And we're real good about continuing with those sticks. 12:38 So I want to ask you, what about when you get home, 12:44 how are you gonna continue this lifestyle? 12:47 I've done a lot of thinking about that, 12:50 and I've laid out my first 2-3 days 12:54 not necessarily food wise, I deal with it when I get, 12:57 I expect to be get home Friday afternoon, 12:59 late afternoon. 13:01 So I've got Saturday figured out 13:05 what I'm gonna do food, 13:06 but I've also got lists of stuff 13:09 that I'm gonna be picking up, going over to Costco 13:11 I got a list over here, I got one at Trader Joe's. 13:16 I'm gonna be end up at Bob's Red Mill 13:19 and next couple of days 13:22 and picking up different grains and beans and sort. 13:24 Remember to throw out all those meats and stuff 13:27 as soon as you get home. 13:29 Brian, we've run out of time, 13:31 I did want to thank you for being here. 13:34 And we're gonna be doing some follow up. 13:36 God bless you. Thank you. 13:37 Friends, don't go away 13:38 we have an important massage following this. 14:13 Welcome back, friends, in our studio, Dr. Doug Plata. 14:16 Thank you for joining us, doctor. 14:19 I want get right into-- about Brian, 14:22 he's, you know, he's had a lot of issues in his life. 14:26 Strokes and this, that and the other. 14:29 And he chose to come here to change his lifestyle, 14:34 how is that is gonna affect what's already happened? 14:38 Is there a possibility that Brian, 14:43 his arteries can get cleaned out 14:45 and he can life a normal life just by changing what he eats? 14:51 Well, I think we need to make a distinction. 14:55 There are, there are some basically injuries to our, 14:58 to our bodies, to our health that are difficult to reverse. 15:03 For example, strokes can be, you know, temporary, 15:07 in which they can completely recover 15:10 or can be sort of permanent damage 15:11 in which the tissue is really sort of irreversibly injured. 15:16 And so there's a couple of things 15:20 one is, in some cases the function can be revived 15:24 if you haven't, if the cells haven't died for example. 15:28 On the other hand is, what is, 15:31 what's called secondary prevention 15:32 and that is when you've had a damaged 15:36 and you want to ahead and prevent it from, 15:39 it from reoccurring, for example, 15:42 then that could make a big difference. 15:44 So him coming here, he's learning a new lifestyle, 15:50 eating differently, he's lost some weight. 15:53 Quite a bit of weight, yeah, yeah. 15:56 And, and he's gonna continue to lose weight. 15:59 And I see kind of a bright future for him. 16:04 Of course, you being a doctor 16:06 maybe see things a little differently 16:09 but can we talk about the effects 16:12 the lifestyle does have on weight, 16:16 on our cardio-vascular system? 16:19 Sure, well, just using Brian as an example, 16:23 he lost 10 full pounds, during the program, 16:26 and that's really quite a nice thing. 16:29 We find that men tend to-- 16:31 it's more easy for men to lose weight than women. 16:33 The body... 16:34 Why, why is that, the muscle? 16:36 It's the way we're designed, I think, 16:38 it has to do with women 16:39 aren't intended to have additional fat, 16:43 because of child bearing. 16:45 Whereas men don't, don't so much have that. 16:48 And so over the years, 16:49 the NEWSTART program has seen this difference, 16:52 and it's well known, that difference. 16:55 But, yeah, I mean, with the lifestyle changes 16:59 leading to specially the reduction of weight 17:02 that can have really a positive impact 17:05 in many different aspects of health. 17:09 Certainly cardio-vascular facts it can not only-- 17:13 Study, like, Dean Ornish did a study 17:15 in which he showed you can actually reverse 17:17 the clogging of the artery. 17:19 Yes. The atherosclerosis. 17:22 Is that your experience as a doctor? 17:24 Absolutely, in fact in the, in the NEWSTART program, 17:28 it can, it can happen fairly quickly in terms of, 17:32 for example, the angina, the chest pain from the heart, 17:36 study done a number of years ago 17:38 here at the NEWSTART program, 17:41 actually showed that the reduction in angina 17:44 just within the 18 days is easily shown by-- 17:50 during the studies, 17:52 while they were on this program within the 18 days. 17:54 So this 18-day program is-- 18:00 would you say is better than a pill? 18:04 Generally, yes, meaning that the philosophy of, 18:08 of lifestyle medicines, 18:09 we want to maximize healthy lifestyle 18:12 in order to minimize the necessity for medications. 18:18 So I think the patients fully understand this 18:21 when they come, given a choice, 18:23 they would prefer to be off the medicines. 18:24 Yes. 18:25 And, and we would like that too, 18:27 but we're rational so we understand 18:29 that they're put on the medicines for a reason. 18:31 So let's go ahead and maximize lifestyle 18:33 and let's see how things go to see, 18:36 can we go ahead and bring them off 18:38 certain medicine or do they need to be on it. 18:41 Now where Brian's concerned, 18:44 were we able to get him off any medications? 18:47 We, we were able to do that, he came in on some medicines 18:54 and as we continued with the program, 18:58 he was able to-- to reduce 19:00 his blood pressure medicine for example. 19:02 Yeah. 19:04 And what is his blood pressure now? 19:06 I thought I asked him but don't recall what that was. 19:09 As I'm-- I treat many different patients 19:12 so I'm trying to recall myself, I believe that happens, 19:15 he came in with moderately well controlled 19:19 and then we actually cut his medicine in half 19:23 and then as result he actually with the lifestyle changes, 19:29 even though we cut his blood pressure medicine, 19:31 his blood pressure levels actually dropped. 19:33 Again? Yes. 19:35 So the next-- 19:36 Obviously he's very happy with that, yeah. 19:40 We hear these stories from people coming here 19:43 and their taken off maybe half their medication, 19:47 and then the blood pressure continues to drop, 19:50 the doctors take them off the rest, 19:52 and the blood pressures continue to drop. 19:54 Yeah, yeah. 19:55 Is that mainly because of the walking, 19:58 the eating and everything that we teach here? 20:01 Well, it's certainly a combination 20:03 of all of those things, 20:04 and when you're doing all of them at the same time 20:06 it's little difficult to tell for sure what is the-- 20:10 what's the main thing. 20:11 I think together they all have an effect. 20:13 Certainly the diet, with being a, 20:16 you know, a low-salt diet, 20:18 which is important in some patients. 20:21 The exercise, I think, is generally gonna help. 20:25 As the cardio-vascular system is improved, 20:27 the blood vessels dilate and you'll able 20:30 to have reduction in your blood pressure with that. 20:33 So diet and exercise, these things together, 20:36 frankly losing weight is itself gonna 20:40 significantly reduce blood pressure, 20:42 that's well known. 20:44 I've never asked this to of-- to any doctor, 20:48 but what is the significance of the standards in BMI? 20:55 Is there or does it have something to do 21:00 with the composition of each individual, 21:03 one guy being or one girl being little thick, 21:06 the other one being little thin-boned or whatever. 21:09 Yeah, that's a great question 21:11 maybe more time than we have to really get into it. 21:15 But let me just say in general that the BMI: 21:19 Body Mass Index, for, 21:21 you know, for the people who are listening, is just-- 21:24 it's way for clinicians to be able to say, 21:27 well, you have weight but, if, you know, 21:29 I'm 6'2" I can afford to have more weight 21:32 than somebody who's 5'4", let's say. 21:35 Right. 21:36 And so, to say a proportionate number 21:38 that helps us to understand really 21:40 how overweight or obese a person is, by doing this. 21:45 And BMI is just a major, it's an important number, 21:49 in the clinical setting to help us understand 21:52 where people are in terms of, 21:54 do they have too much body fat or not. 21:59 However, you make up a good point and that is, 22:01 you know, if you-- if you go like this, 22:03 if you wrap around with your fingers don't touch 22:06 or if they do touch or if they tend to overlap, 22:09 you're probably not quite touching, right? 22:10 Right 22:11 Just, just almost there, so, you know, 22:13 it's like a large body frame versus 22:16 if you're really overlapping sort of skinning people. 22:19 Well, if you have, 22:20 if you're a big-bone or a thin-bone person, 22:23 well, it makes a difference 22:25 in terms of how much weight you're gonna have. 22:30 And so, it can, it can mess up the-- 22:32 muddy up the picture a little bit 22:35 but BMI is certainly, generally a good number that we use. 22:40 The reason I even ask is that at 195 I'm obese, 22:45 at 194 I'm just bellow the threshold. 22:48 Okay. 22:49 I don't know if one pound should make a difference. 22:51 Well, yeah, it's on a gradient, 22:53 so there you have it. 22:55 We're running out of time, 22:56 I want to thank you for being here. 22:57 Sure 22:58 Thank you for taking your valuable time. 23:01 It's always good to see you. 23:02 And thank you, friends, but don't go away. 23:04 I have a tip for you, following this. 23:57 Welcome to "Ask the Doctor," I'm Dr. David DeRose. 24:00 We're taking your questions 24:01 and we're going to Grace's question from California. 24:06 Grace asks, "What's the one thing 24:08 we shouldn't eat in 2012? 24:12 What's the one thing we should eat in 2012?" 24:15 Well, if you're listening to this broadcast 24:19 or viewing it at any time other than 2012, 24:21 you might gather when this question was submitted. 24:24 Well, what should we eat, what shouldn't we eat? 24:28 Actually there are some general rules of thumb 24:30 I wouldn't want to narrow 24:32 anything down to one single food 24:34 because nutrition is really about balance. 24:36 Nutrition is about eating a variety of things. 24:39 And the variety of things we want to emphasize 24:41 what the research more and more is telling us 24:43 is we want to eat more fruits, we want to eat more vegetables, 24:47 we want to eat more in the bean family, 24:50 we want to eat more nuts and seeds within moderation 24:53 because the nuts and seeds have quite a bit of 24:56 what we call caloric density, lots of calories per volume 24:59 and many Americans are already getting too many calories. 25:03 But if I were to single out one food that I think 25:05 overlooked in 2012, it would the legumes, 25:10 it would be the bean family. 25:12 I'm very excited about beans. 25:14 I know that may sound like 25:15 a strange thing to be excited about, 25:16 but I see many patients 25:18 who have problems with cholesterol, 25:19 they have problem with their weight, 25:20 they have problems with their blood sugar. 25:22 Eating more beans has been shown 25:24 to help all these conditions. 25:25 Beans have something called leguminous fiber. 25:29 Leguminous fiber helps to stabilize 25:31 or steady blood sugar after a meal. 25:33 So we have patients with diabetes 25:36 going through our NEWSTART program 25:38 at Weimar Center of Heath and Education. 25:40 We are giving them beans at every meal. 25:43 Now we don't force them to eat them, 25:44 I mean, don't stay away from our program 25:46 if you don't like beans 25:47 but we do recommend to eat them 25:49 because it will keep their blood sugar more stable. 25:51 Beans also have a lot of filling capacity 25:54 without giving you lots of calories. 25:57 They even prolong levels, get this, 26:00 of a hormone in your blood 26:02 called cholecystokinin abbreviated CCK, 26:06 I know you're just so excited about that, 26:07 you say, well, who cares. 26:09 Cholecystokinin actually is a hormone 26:11 that helps the gallbladder release bile for digestion 26:15 but it's more than that. 26:17 Cholecystokinin actually is a satiety hormone. 26:20 So you eat more of this leguminous fiber, 26:22 more of these beans, 26:24 and it keeps you satisfied longer between meals. 26:27 So if you say, well, Dr. DeRose, 26:29 I eat breakfast but it only holds me an hour or two, 26:31 I can almost guarantee you 26:33 that you didn't have beans with breakfast, did you? 26:35 So add beans to the diet, 26:37 they can be used to with any meal. 26:38 By the way, that's not the only thing. 26:40 If you have an allergy or just can't eat beans, 26:43 of course, that's not the one thing 26:44 you should be emphasizing in your diet, 26:46 but it is an overlooked food 26:47 and it brings us back to that massage, 26:48 one that I've tried to give on this show before, 26:51 eat more of those plant foods, 26:53 and you'll generally have much better health. 26:55 I'm Dr. David DeRose, you've been watching 26:58 or listening to "Ask the Doctor." 27:00 You can be a part of the dialogue 27:02 simply send us your questions, ask@lifeandhealth.org 27:08 You're killing me. 27:14 You're killing me. 27:16 Actually, Dad, you're killing yourself. 27:20 With the only program scientifically proven 27:23 to prolong life by 10 years, 27:24 the NEWSTART Lifestyle Program can significantly decrease 27:27 the risk of disease including diabetes. 27:30 Done with that? 27:32 Think I am. 27:33 Go to newstart.com now to learn more. 27:36 The NEWSTART Lifestyle Program, we bring you back to life. 27:39 Well, friends, that's it for today 27:41 but join us next week for another episode. 27:44 In the mean time, pick up the phone 27:46 and give us a call at 1-800-525-9192. 27:52 Mention the NEWSTART Now Program 27:55 and receive the NEWSTART special. |
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