Participants: Ron Giannoni (Host), Maria Lee Costin
Series Code: NSN
Program Code: NSN000141A
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00:12 Every year in America there are over one million deaths
00:15 because of type-2 diabetes and chronic obesity. 00:18 This includes heart attacks and strokes. 00:20 That's six and a half 747s crashing every day. 00:24 What's even more surprising is that the fix is easy. 00:27 It's your lifestyle. 00:28 Wouldn't it be nice 00:30 if you could actually add quality years to your life 00:32 rather than dying one organ at a time? 00:35 Obesity and diabetes 00:36 are the cause of over million deaths per year. 00:39 Most diseases are reversible 00:41 because most diseases are lifestyle diseases, 00:44 especially type-2 diabetes and chronic obesity. 00:47 Seriously now, they can be reversed 00:50 and the quality of your life can be renewed. 00:53 Call Newstart today at 1-800-525-9192. 00:59 You will see dramatic changes 01:01 in the first few days of our program 01:03 and you'll be on the road to a better, 01:05 more robust quality of life. 01:07 The Newstart programs are simple and effective. 01:14 Hi, friends, and welcome 01:15 to another edition of "Newstart Now." 01:18 I'm your host, Ron Giannoni. 01:20 In our studio with me, 01:22 I have Mara Lee Costin from North Carolina 01:27 and I'd like you to take a look at when she first arrived. 01:34 I have been a type-2 diabetic for 13 years 01:38 and I have tried various methods 01:41 to get off my diabetes medicine. 01:43 I have tried diets, everybody that comes up 01:49 with a new idea of how it's gonna make you healthier, 01:53 I've tried it. 01:54 And not too long ago, my sister-in-law's mother 01:59 visited my home for a meal. 02:01 When we were discussing these things, 02:03 she brought up Weimar 02:05 because she had brought her husband, 02:08 who is now passed, here. 02:11 Coming to Weimar probably gave him 02:13 10 extra years of his life 02:16 and that's what I was looking for. 02:17 I was looking for a change 02:19 and my husband and I discussed it 02:21 and I decided to come. 02:22 And I'm young, 02:24 I shouldn't have to be worrying about insulin 02:26 and traveling with pills 02:28 and I don't like every night being dependent on a medicine 02:33 to make me feel better the next day. 02:35 I wanted something different. 02:38 I don't want to take those medicines anymore, 02:41 I want to be healthy. 02:43 Before I leave the Newstart program, 02:45 I would like to be off my insulin, 02:47 my Metformin, my blood pressure pills, 02:50 my cholesterol pill. 02:52 I want to be med free. 02:54 I want to try to do the plant-based diet 02:58 and make it so that I can be healthy again. 03:04 Hi, friends, and welcome back. 03:05 Mara Lee, thank you for joining us. 03:08 Thank you. 03:09 I'm real excited about what you told me 03:11 before the program started. 03:13 And I want the viewers to hear what's happened. 03:17 We just watched your first interview 03:21 and you're on all these medications, 03:23 you're shooting yourself with insulin, 03:25 taking Metformin, low blood pre-- 03:28 high blood, all these pills. 03:30 Yes. What has happened? 03:32 Well, it's pretty exciting. Yes. 03:35 I have not been on any medications for two weeks. 03:39 What, are you saying that two weeks ago 03:41 the docs took you off all the medications? 03:44 All of them, and I'm now drug free. 03:48 Drug free. 03:49 I have been drug free for two weeks. 03:52 My blood sugar this morning was a normal 106. 03:57 That's beautiful. It was amazing, I'm so happy. 04:00 Now you've been diabetic for what, 15 years? 04:03 13 years. 13 years? 04:04 13 years on all these meds and blood pressure medicine, 04:08 and cholesterol medicine, 04:09 and I am so thankful I came to Newstart. 04:14 Now, I know there's viewers out there watching this and going, 04:17 "How is it possible?" 04:19 But you're not the first one we've had here. 04:22 No, no, and really, the care given here, 04:25 being watched, supervised by physicians and nurses, 04:29 going through the different steps 04:32 they take you through in this program 04:34 made the difference in me being able to be ready to go home. 04:38 The cooking school was amazing. 04:41 I now feel like I can go home 04:44 and take this diet with me and make it normal. 04:47 Yes. 04:48 It's normal part of my everyday life. 04:50 So what did you like most about the program? 04:54 Probably the hydrotherapy. The hydrotherapy. 04:57 Yes, because before I'd arrived, 04:59 I'd had knee surgery five weeks ago 05:02 and the hydrotherapy has helped my knee to heal in ways 05:06 I never thought would be possible. 05:08 Oh, wonderful. 05:09 Now, you're walking on that knee okay, right? 05:11 Yes, I'm doing great. 05:12 How far are you walking every day? 05:15 Well, I started at three and it was-- 05:17 my knee got a little tender 05:19 so the doctor cautioned me to back off. 05:21 So I'm at one and a half miles now. 05:24 Okay. 05:25 And because you don't want to overdo it for that reason. 05:28 My knee surgery. 05:29 But the key is the walking after each meal, 05:33 even just 15 minutes has lowered my sugars tremendously. 05:38 It's a wonderful, wonderful, news. 05:40 Yes, I've been through it as you know. 05:43 I shared with you, in '05, I came through the program. 05:47 All these same wonderful things happened with me 05:50 and I'm so happy and so, you know, 05:53 we just have to praise the Lord 05:55 that this place even exists. 05:57 And this is not the only place. 05:59 There are other lifestyles centers throughout the world, 06:04 a number of them here in this country, 06:08 in the United States. 06:09 But this is the only one I've ever been to. 06:12 And this is where God showed me how to get well, 06:16 how to stay well and, you know, 06:19 coming through this program, 06:21 three months later after having completed this program, 06:26 I was baptized. Wonderful, praise God. 06:30 And my whole has changed, but this is about me. 06:33 This is about you. Now-- 06:35 But, you know, I have friends who are already asking me, 06:38 will you teach me about this when you come home? 06:40 Oh, yes. 06:41 Will you teach me the things you're doing 06:42 because this is an epidemic in the United States, 06:46 type-2 diabetes and high blood pressure 06:48 and we need to pass the word along on how to get help. 06:53 Yes. 06:54 And do it God's way. And you being the teacher... 06:56 Yes. 06:57 You're just gonna go for it. 06:59 I'm trying, yes. 07:00 Now, I would expect that when you get back 07:03 and you visit the church family... 07:05 Yes. 07:06 The pastor is going to probably ask you 07:08 what happened and maybe you can share that 07:11 with the church family. 07:12 I plan to ask to do that. 07:14 I pray and hope that you do. 07:16 Thank you. 07:17 Okay, so did the doctors-- 07:23 When you visited with your doctor Dr. Lukens, 07:28 were you ever skeptical? 07:29 Did you think that, 07:31 "Oh, how can I get off all these medications, 07:33 this doesn't seem right?" 07:37 I was, but it's what I wanted, it was my dream. 07:41 So a lot of times you'll listen to somebody 07:43 who'll help you to accomplish your dreams 07:46 and he did that for me. 07:49 It's evident in my blood work 07:51 and in what's going on with my blood sugars each day. 07:55 It is making a difference, it's changed my life. 07:59 Now, I know that you started a lifestyle two weeks ago. 08:06 Were the medications, did your blood sugar 08:10 actually drop that fast in the first few days 08:14 that he took you off the Metformin and-- 08:17 Well, I did some fasting. So, yes, it did. 08:19 You did three days of fasting? 08:20 I did three days of fasting, 08:22 which I felt was necessary to clean out my system 08:26 from the prescription drugs. 08:28 And then when I started eating food again, 08:33 my body naturally regulated 08:35 a little better to the food I think. 08:37 It was a really good situation. 08:39 And how soon after you stopped the medication 08:44 did your blood sugar drop to below 110? 08:48 It's just been recently because I haven't been able to exercise 08:51 as much as everyone else, 08:53 but it did get down to the 117, that range. 09:00 That's still, that's a good range. 09:02 It's still marvelous. Yes. 09:03 Considering, I never had any days on medicine 09:06 that I woke up that low. 09:09 So that's the amazing part. 09:11 Now, what about the blood pressure? 09:14 It's gone back to normal and, in fact, the doctor said, 09:18 "I don't know why you need to be on blood pressure anymore." 09:22 And they're testing it every day, 09:25 you know, couple of times a day 09:26 and my blood pressure is now normal. 09:28 And what is normal? 09:30 120/80 is normal, mine is running 121/69 or 70 09:37 and it's doing great. 09:38 Yeah. So it's pretty awesome. 09:41 You've discovered a new life. 09:43 I have and I don't want to turn back. 09:45 No. 09:46 And I can see in your eyes and hear 09:49 because you sound like me talking. 09:52 Yes. 09:54 And you're gonna stick to it, I know. 09:55 I know I am. 09:56 My husband already bought me a Vitamix. 09:58 Oh, he did? Yes. 10:00 I said I need a Vitamix to make this and he said, fine. 10:03 So he ordered me a Vitamix. 10:05 I got you a Vitamix. Oh, good God bless him. 10:06 So, yeah, I guess it's my graduation present. 10:09 Now, when you came through the program, 10:11 you were with some 20 other people. 10:14 We don't have large sessions 10:18 but there are enough people here 10:19 to kind of coax you and prod you along and, 10:24 "Hurray, let's go for it." Yes, yes. 10:26 Did you meet any of these kinds of folks? 10:29 Yes. 10:30 Did you make new friends while you were here? 10:31 Sure, we did. 10:33 This was a very tight-knit group 10:35 and people were praying for each other, 10:38 encouraging each other, 10:40 and when I got cut down on my exercise, 10:43 they would even go the shorter distance with me 10:45 to make sure I had a companion 10:47 and so, yeah, it was a very positive spirit 10:51 of people working together even though each person 10:54 had their own medical issue. 10:56 We all worked together to help each other, 10:58 it was a good thing. 10:59 Isn't that wonderful? Yes. 11:00 Did the doctor walk with you? 11:03 Yes, and ate meals with us, and had us to his home. 11:09 It's a very open relationship with the doctor, 11:12 very different than outside of these walls. 11:15 When is the last time you had dinner with the doctor? 11:18 Not for a while. 11:19 Now that could be TV program. 11:21 Yeah. 11:22 Dinner with the doctor. Dinner with the doctor, yeah. 11:24 And we have dinner with the doctor each session. 11:27 Yes. Friday night. 11:28 Yes. 11:29 Dr. Lukens likes to flip those potatoes. 11:33 He likes to-- 11:34 Yes, he does, he's really good at that. 11:36 He is very good at that, I've watched him. 11:38 Over the years, flipping those potatoes. 11:40 Yes, yes. And I like to do that too. 11:42 Yes. 11:43 So, all right, so you went to Dr. Lukens' home. 11:47 Yes. 11:48 And he fixed food for you to eat. 11:52 Yes, yes. What did he fix? 11:54 Well, he made some lentil stew 11:57 and he made interesting appetizers 12:00 that he cut out of pieces of whole-grain breads 12:04 and avocados and tomatoes and at the end, 12:07 he served us frozen fruit. 12:11 Yes, it was delicious and so he did quite well 12:15 and his wife was a little busy because she was on the phone, 12:18 they were having a grand baby being born that evening. 12:22 Yes. 12:23 So he did it himself and I was amazed. 12:26 Mara Lee, I want to thank you for coming on the program. 12:29 Sure. 12:30 And would you mind 12:32 if I follow up with you in, say, a month. 12:34 No, that'd be great. See how you're doing? 12:35 That'd be great. Well, God bless you, my dear. 12:37 Thank you. 12:38 And we'll talk to you soon. Okay. 12:40 Friends, don't go away, we have an important message for you. 13:20 Welcome back, friends, in your studio Dr. Lukens. 13:23 It's good to see you. Yes. 13:25 And it's really good to see you 13:27 to be able to talk about this gal. 13:29 She is just really excited about what's happened here, 13:35 but I'd like you to-- 13:37 Yeah, and here she's got all these kids, 13:39 you know, and-- 13:40 Yeah. 13:41 And everything and I said, 13:42 "Where were you when I was in elementary school?" 13:44 You know, and she tells me 13:46 all the different things and everything. 13:47 She's really a very nice person. 13:50 Absolutely wonderful, 13:52 and I wanted you to explain something to the viewers. 13:56 She said that she was taken off all her meds 14:00 when she first got here. 14:02 Can you elaborate a little bit about that, the fasting? 14:05 Yeah, you know, and she just kind of mentioned 14:08 in passing and stuff like that. 14:10 But actually, what they do when they come in, 14:14 if they're willing to and most of them are, 14:16 is they start a three day fast. 14:20 Is that just water or juices or? 14:22 They give them something sometimes 14:24 to make them feel full, 14:25 it's a guar gum or something like that. 14:28 But anyway, and some of them like it 14:31 and some of them say, "No, I'll just take the water." 14:33 But anyway, most of them think that, 14:35 you know, that's really helpful. 14:36 But coming back to the fast, 14:38 imagine if she's taking insulin 14:43 and she's taking pills as well 14:46 and there's no food coming in, what's going to happen to her? 14:48 Oh, she's going to have a problem. 14:50 Yeah, so I know the doctors 14:52 that are out there, they're thinking, 14:53 "Oh, you know, those guys up there, they're, 14:56 what do they think they're doing?" 14:58 And yeah. 14:59 So anyway, they have to go off of it for three days. 15:04 Yeah. 15:05 And sometimes their blood pressure 15:06 is already better and so we take them off of that. 15:10 Now she was on two medications 15:11 that I want to mention briefly. 15:14 One of them was an ARB, 15:18 this is one of the ones that lowers the blood pressure 15:21 and it's involved with the kidneys 15:22 just to state it briefly. 15:26 And I handed her something from my family practice news, 15:30 one of my journals, and it shows that 15:32 that medication although it makes those numbers go down 15:37 so they get a lower diastolic 15:40 or lower systolic and their blood pressure 15:42 looks great and we're yeah, yeah, yeah, you know. 15:46 But then when they did a med analysis on it, 15:49 when they checked it, it didn't lower mortality, 15:53 it didn't lower the number of heart attacks, 15:56 it didn't lower the number of strokes. 15:59 And so they said, well, the number needed 16:01 to treat in order for this medication to really help, 16:06 you'd have to do an infinite number of people 16:09 and so really nobody's helped by that. 16:12 We have that kind of problem so often 16:15 and it is called a surrogate study 16:17 in my Family Practice newsletter 16:21 and in my Family Practice journals. 16:24 They keep talking about the surrogate study. 16:26 What we want to know is how many people 16:29 are still alive at the end of the time, 16:31 not what their numbers did. 16:32 So this surrogate study is to just look at the numbers, 16:35 see how good these numbers are. 16:36 But, no, how many did it help, 16:39 how many people did it help them to live longer 16:42 and these medications. 16:44 One of the ones that she was on for lowering cholesterol, 16:47 it will take your so called bad cholesterol, 16:50 we'd like to have it below 100, and it will take it from 150, 16:55 which is high down to 50, you see. 17:00 And the trouble is when they started looking at this, 17:03 they found out that actually the lower your 17:06 so called bad cholesterol was, 17:08 the faster your arteries were plugging up. 17:11 Wow. 17:13 Now, that's in my Family Practice stuff. 17:17 Was that because of the medication? 17:19 It is. It is. 17:20 The lower the medication makes their 17:24 so called bad cholesterol, 17:26 the faster their arteries are plugging up. 17:29 And all the other ones, 17:31 you'd have to treat 100 people to help one 17:34 and a lot of people, you know, 5% to 15% percent of people 17:39 are going to have side effects from them. 17:41 And some of the people like, they tried to put her on one 17:44 because her numbers weren't good. 17:47 And she said, "You know, they just, 17:49 I couldn't take them, they were making me sick." 17:53 Yeah, so after the fast, 17:56 she did very well during the fast and so we said, 17:58 "Look, the more you can walk--" 18:00 Now her knee, I was wondering, 18:02 why did come now, babe, because, 18:05 you know, you've just had surgery on your knee. 18:06 But it'd been a while, been like-- 18:08 What, no, three weeks. Oh, three weeks. 18:11 It's five weeks now you see. Okay. 18:13 Yeah, three weeks. 18:16 But anyway, she's a pusher, she's gung-ho. 18:19 And she made friends with all the ladies here 18:23 and some of them were just going, 18:24 going and so she went along with it 18:26 and so we had to slow her down. 18:27 She talked about that and had to put ice on her knee 18:31 a couple of times because she was doing too much 18:33 but she said it's feeling a lot better than 18:35 when she first came. 18:36 As a patient, how-- 18:39 Did she respond like everyone else? 18:43 Was anything exceptional 18:45 about getting her off these meds 18:48 and how she is-- her blood sugar is now 104? 18:52 That's when she's fasting. Yes. 18:54 106, I believe. 106. 18:57 The thing is that John McDougall 18:59 talked to us this summer 19:03 and we Skyped him in and he says, 19:05 "Look, if you're on the program, 19:07 if you're doing all these things 19:09 and you've had diabetes, 19:10 if your fasting blood sugar is 140 or below," 19:14 he said, "I'm happy with that." 19:16 And she responded very quickly to get it down. 19:19 Her fasting sugar, it's not always that low 19:21 but to get it down at that time recently 106, 19:25 that's pretty amazing. 19:26 Now, as far as we're concerned here, 19:30 we meaning you doctors that minister to the guests here, 19:35 Dr. Plata, yourself, Dr. Ing, 19:38 what numbers do you look for as kind of like the threshold 19:43 to be below before you say, "You're no longer diabetic"? 19:48 Okay, this is getting a little bit technical 19:51 but the A1C shows what you've done 19:54 during the last three months. 19:56 Right, that's more important 19:58 than what you're doing right now. 20:00 Yeah, to see what that is. 20:01 But the problem is that and I probably 20:04 mentioned this many times, 20:05 when they got them down into the normal range 20:08 by pushing more insulin and more of the ones 20:10 that whip the pancreas, 20:12 then they found out that they lost 20-25% more people 20:17 with cardiovascular disease. 20:20 And so the cardiologist, Dr. James Doug, 20:24 he was following the one that we did here in America. 20:27 He says, "This is very confusing and very distressing. 20:30 For 50 years we've been telling the patients, 20:32 get that low, that's the thing that's going to help the most. 20:36 But when they do it with lifestyle, 20:38 they get it low, they're not on the medicines. 20:40 Why would this be? 20:41 Because the insulin 20:42 tends to make their arteries plug up faster, you know. 20:46 The insulin does? 20:48 Yeah, it's what we call atherogenic. 20:50 You get more and the other thing 20:53 is they can't lose weight, so their diabetes continues on 20:57 and all these things are happening, 20:59 so that's why I'm so excited 21:01 to be able to tell people about this. 21:04 It's like fighting a losing battle 21:06 if you're on the insulin. 21:07 No thank you. Yeah. 21:09 So, doctor-- 21:10 But what's neat about her 21:11 is her husband's already done the work for her at home. 21:14 He really wan-- She said, "This is expensive." 21:18 And he says, "Yes, but what will I do 21:20 when I don't have you any anymore?" 21:22 So that was a good deal. 21:25 Yeah, my question is now, 21:29 is she the one that's gonna be not only the teacher 21:34 in her school but in her community? 21:37 Is she gonna be like a, what I want to say, 21:42 an angel for the Newstart program? 21:44 Well, the thing is at first, 21:46 they get too excited but then after that, 21:50 you know, they realize that 21:51 they should back off a little bit. 21:52 Yeah, but she's already got people that she wants to come. 21:55 Including her husband, she's already got him. 21:58 Yeah, and also other relatives and friends. 22:01 Yeah, she's already working on them 22:02 and she realized what it would do for them as well. 22:05 But the thing is that she needed emphasize 22:10 that the exercise was so important. 22:12 And that's what I wish she'd said. 22:16 We're running out of time, doc, 22:17 I want to thank you for being with us. 22:19 So good. 22:20 And God bless you and your work. 22:22 Friends, don't go away. We have a tip for you. 23:14 Welcome to "Ask the Doctor." 23:15 I'm Dr. David DeRose taking your questions again 23:18 on today's edition of the program. 23:20 We're going to a question from Canada, 23:23 Danny asks Winnipeg this very relevant 23:27 and practical question. 23:28 Is juicing fruits and vegetables 23:31 an effective way to get my five servings 23:34 of fruits and vegetables per day? 23:37 Well, first of Danny, let me command you 23:39 you've gotten that message 23:40 that public professionals have been trying to get out 23:43 for many years and that is we need 23:44 to be getting a minimum of five servings 23:46 of fruits and vegetables a day. 23:48 Many are pushing that number up to 9 or more, 23:51 but your perplexity is exactly 23:53 what many people are at and there are simply saying, 23:55 "How can I get all this in, should I just start juicing." 23:58 I know it's become very popular 24:00 but let me tell you many of the patients 24:02 that I see in my clinic their problem 24:04 is not so much what they're eating 24:07 as how much they're eating in total calories. 24:11 When it comes to juices there's an intrinsic problem. 24:14 If we're eating our plant foods or any food 24:16 as a whole food as we're chewing that food 24:19 we're getting a lot more satiety 24:21 a lot more satisfaction from the food 24:23 that if we do reduce it to let's say 24:25 a pureed state or even a juice state. 24:29 Let me give you some inside into this, 24:31 classic study was done many years ago 24:33 they took apples had volunteers in this study 24:37 eat the same number of calories 24:39 as whole apples then compared it 24:41 to apple sauce or apple puree 24:43 and then compared that to apple juice. 24:46 What they found is those who ate the whole apples 24:48 for a given number of calories 24:49 those whole apples gave them much more satisfaction 24:52 and held them much longer before they wanted to eat again 24:55 as compared to the apple sauce. 24:57 What do you think fared the worst? 24:59 Yes, the apple juice. 25:01 Bottom-line the more juices you eat 25:03 you'll tend to take in more calories, 25:05 which will often make it more difficult for you 25:07 to trim down if you're carrying some extra pounds. 25:09 So in another way if you're an athlete 25:11 your doing a lot of exercises 25:13 you're on a vigorous training program 25:15 juice actually could be added to your program sometimes 25:18 they have people take it a half an hour 25:20 before their meal so it doesn't interfere 25:22 with their appetite too much 25:23 and doesn't really give them the effect of an added meal 25:27 but kind of extends the benefits of a given meal 25:29 can get some more calories in that way 25:31 so sometimes I will in usual circumstances, I say unusual 25:35 because most of my patients are not athletes. 25:38 They're people that are trying to trim down 25:39 and so the message is to cut back on the juices 25:41 rather than increasing it. 25:43 Let me tell you another concern 25:44 I have that I don't hear many people speaking about 25:46 is probably on the tip of some of your tongues 25:48 it actually has to do with your tongue 25:50 and your mouth it's something called urogastrone, 25:53 I know I took the words 25:54 right out of your mouth, didn't I. 25:55 Urogastrone is actually a compound 25:57 that is made in the mouth when you chew your food, 26:00 it's important for optimal gastrointestinal health. 26:04 If you want a healthy stomach, stomach lining. 26:06 By the way we've got an epidemic 26:08 in our country of gastrointestinal problems 26:11 something that can help is making more urogastrone. 26:13 How do you make more of it? 26:14 You simply chew your food thoroughly, isn't it amazing. 26:18 So again juices bypass that natural protective mechanism. 26:23 Juices also can have some deleterious 26:25 affects on your blood sugar. 26:26 What's the bottom-line, for the average person I say, 26:29 "Eat your foods and vegetables definitely 26:31 but eat them as whole foods 26:33 that's what I do on a regular basis 26:35 that's what I recommend my patients too. 26:37 If you've got an unusual situation 26:38 or you're trying to increase your calories 26:40 or you're on some kind of a special fast 26:42 or something under doctor supervision 26:44 there may be a place there of course for juices, 26:47 but in general not the best thing 26:49 in my experience or in the research literatures 26:53 experience to include in your program." 26:55 I'm Dr. David DeRose, 26:57 the show is called "Ask the Doctor" 26:58 you can be included, 27:00 at least your questions can simply 27:01 by sending them to ask@lifeandhealth.org. 27:10 You are killing me. 27:11 Actually, dad, you are killing yourself. 27:16 With the only program scientifically 27:18 proven to prolong life by 10 years, 27:20 the Newstart Lifestyle Program can significantly 27:23 decrease the risk of disease, including diabetes. 27:26 You're done with that? 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