Hi friends and welcome to 00:00:23.54\00:00:25.27 another addition of Newstart Now. 00:00:25.28\00:00:27.39 I have an exciting interview with Linda Porter 00:00:27.51\00:00:30.84 All the way from Aspen Colorado. 00:00:31.09\00:00:33.24 I would like for you to take a look 00:00:33.60\00:00:35.27 of when she first arrived. 00:00:35.28\00:00:37.06 I have some heart disease in the family. 00:00:38.42\00:00:40.63 and it was after Christmas. 00:00:40.64\00:00:42.75 I told my husband, "I take care of everybody." 00:00:43.06\00:00:45.84 There are a lot of people who visit 00:00:45.85\00:00:48.60 Aspen Colorado during the holidays. 00:00:48.61\00:00:51.15 I was just inundated with company and it's lovely, 00:00:51.30\00:00:55.39 Fabulous dinners, festivities, and I was tired at the end. 00:00:55.81\00:01:00.75 I have high cholesterol on top of all of that. 00:01:00.76\00:01:03.54 I said to my husband Bob, 00:01:03.69\00:01:05.60 I need to take care of myself 00:01:05.75\00:01:07.27 Before I leave NEWSTART 00:01:07.30\00:01:08.81 I want to lower my cholesterol 00:01:08.87\00:01:11.15 I want to learn how to eat and cook vegan dishes 00:01:11.36\00:01:16.54 and enjoy them and loose weight. 00:01:16.55\00:01:19.84 Welcome back friends, and in our studio, Linda 00:01:23.33\00:01:25.48 Hi Ron, 00:01:25.49\00:01:26.60 How are you? 00:01:26.61\00:01:27.60 I'm very good thankyou. 00:01:27.61\00:01:29.24 Well you look so bubbly, 00:01:29.25\00:01:31.06 I can't wait to get started here. 00:01:31.07\00:01:32.27 I see that you have on your lap, 00:01:32.28\00:01:34.66 some numbers from the blood draws that we've done. 00:01:34.67\00:01:39.36 I think some of the viewers know this 00:01:39.37\00:01:42.06 but for those of you who don't, 00:01:42.07\00:01:43.21 we do two blood draws. 00:01:43.22\00:01:45.63 One when the guest first arrives, 00:01:45.78\00:01:48.27 and one the day before they leave. 00:01:48.42\00:01:50.30 Tell us about yours. -Alright 00:01:50.63\00:01:52.87 Well I've had a history of high blood pressure. 00:01:53.15\00:01:57.42 I'm sorry, high cholesterol. 00:01:57.43\00:01:59.30 -Have you had high blood pressure? 00:01:59.45\00:02:02.27 No, just the high cholesterol 00:02:02.28\00:02:04.81 and high triglycerides -Yes 00:02:04.82\00:02:08.51 My reading has been about 277 for the last 6 years. 00:02:08.52\00:02:14.36 It concerned my family to the point where 00:02:14.48\00:02:19.06 they advisded me to come here. 00:02:19.27\00:02:21.45 I talked to Dr. Lukens today 00:02:21.46\00:02:23.78 I nearly jumped out of my seat, I couldn't belive it, 00:02:24.24\00:02:28.33 He said to me that since I was exercising now, 00:02:28.34\00:02:33.12 you might see a couple points higher. 00:02:33.13\00:02:36.75 In your cholesterol reading 00:02:36.76\00:02:39.15 because it kind of blasts the cholesterol out. 00:02:40.12\00:02:42.60 I was so happy to hear and see that my total cholesterol 00:02:42.61\00:02:46.72 is 213. -So it went from 277 to 213. 00:02:46.73\00:02:52.42 Yes 00:02:52.60\00:02:53.60 Basically in 16 days. 00:02:53.61\00:02:56.27 I am so excited, yes. 00:02:56.28\00:02:59.12 Tell us about the triglycerides. 00:02:59.13\00:03:01.42 The reason I ask is because that is a bigger number. 00:03:01.43\00:03:05.27 Yes, triglycerides when I first got here was 309 00:03:05.28\00:03:08.72 -What are they today? 00:03:08.84\00:03:10.36 116! 00:03:11.06\00:03:13.54 That's almost a 200 point drop. 00:03:13.55\00:03:15.72 -Yes 00:03:15.73\00:03:16.72 Do you realize you are in the safe zone? 00:03:16.73\00:03:18.54 -I feel it too. 00:03:18.55\00:03:20.12 You look so different 00:03:20.13\00:03:22.27 -Well thank you! I was just reading the word this morning, 00:03:22.28\00:03:25.63 and the scripture that came to mind was 00:03:25.64\00:03:31.42 I have set before you life and death. 00:03:31.43\00:03:33.42 That is what Jesus said. 00:03:33.43\00:03:35.72 Choose life. -Wow 00:03:36.06\00:03:38.39 I really feel... He is talking about the kingdom of God 00:03:38.51\00:03:45.15 and salvation but we could also look at it 00:03:45.30\00:03:47.66 as our temporal situation where we need to choose life. 00:03:47.67\00:03:51.63 Make life changing and life altering decisions. 00:03:51.64\00:03:54.60 The positive, the good. 00:03:54.72\00:03:56.36 That is what NEWSTART is about. 00:03:56.63\00:03:58.78 It is amazing it really is. 00:03:58.79\00:04:01.24 Well that was so wonderfully said. 00:04:01.25\00:04:03.24 I've never quite heard it that way. 00:04:03.25\00:04:05.54 I do believe that, I know that. That is what happened with me. 00:04:05.75\00:04:09.48 Tell us now, You said you had a weight problem, 00:04:09.66\00:04:13.33 I lost... 00:04:14.45\00:04:18.75 I lost 10 pounds while being here. 00:04:18.76\00:04:21.18 Two more ounces to really get to the ten pounds. 00:04:22.09\00:04:25.42 -I'm going to give you the two ounces. 00:04:25.43\00:04:28.18 Can you give that? Yes, 10 pounds! 00:04:28.19\00:04:31.24 So that's exciting. I still have a ways to go. 00:04:31.45\00:04:34.57 How about size? Did you notice that you shrank a little bit? 00:04:34.58\00:04:36.78 I have my hydro theropy after this session. 00:04:36.79\00:04:41.57 I will get a messurement. 00:04:41.58\00:04:43.51 I don't have any numbers on that. 00:04:43.52\00:04:44.78 My theropest measured before we started the program. 00:04:44.79\00:04:48.66 So I'm excited about those numbers too. 00:04:48.81\00:04:50.60 The reason I ask is, sometimes people come through the program, 00:04:51.24\00:04:54.57 they don't loose any weight but they loose two or three sizes. 00:04:54.81\00:04:58.33 - Exactly And that is rare 00:04:58.34\00:05:00.27 but many of us loose at least a size. 00:05:00.28\00:05:03.18 - Right 00:05:03.19\00:05:04.18 That is encouraging for a lot of our viewers. 00:05:04.19\00:05:06.60 Who need to come here. 00:05:06.87\00:05:08.75 So for those people who are watching, 00:05:09.06\00:05:11.72 If your cholestorol is high, your triglycerides, your LDL, 00:05:11.73\00:05:15.72 HDL, It doesn't matter. 00:05:15.73\00:05:17.30 You get here, we'll help you make some changes. 00:05:17.51\00:05:20.30 Just like Linda did. 00:05:20.31\00:05:21.42 and for those of you with high blood pressure 00:05:21.87\00:05:24.06 because that did come up in conversation. 00:05:24.18\00:05:25.87 not to worry, 00:05:26.24\00:05:27.63 my blood pressure used to be 220 over 110! 00:05:27.78\00:05:31.30 sometimes, not all the time. 00:05:31.69\00:05:33.48 and now, the other morning when I measured, it was 106 00:05:34.06\00:05:36.66 over 66 00:05:37.12\00:05:39.09 that was really good, but this is about you. 00:05:39.54\00:05:41.42 So tell me more about you. 00:05:41.87\00:05:43.84 Why are you . . . 00:05:44.06\00:05:45.36 - Well Are you that happy 00:05:45.51\00:05:47.33 you're just glowing because you're happy? 00:05:47.39\00:05:49.09 Well thank you, I am very happy. 00:05:49.21\00:05:53.75 Very excieted - Yeah 00:05:53.76\00:05:55.06 I texted my whole family and a few friends today. 00:05:55.07\00:05:58.66 I gave them my liped panel, the total cholestorol 00:05:58.67\00:06:01.57 and the weight loss and I started with 00:06:01.58\00:06:04.06 "I'm over joyed" 00:06:04.07\00:06:05.09 I am just filled with joy. 00:06:05.10\00:06:08.75 - Can I sign you up as one of our NEWSTART angels? 00:06:09.42\00:06:12.69 Do you know what the angels do? - No 00:06:12.70\00:06:14.18 They bring us more guests - I'm telling you 00:06:14.19\00:06:17.21 You've got one right here. 00:06:17.22\00:06:18.72 Because I'm sitting in lectures and thinking, 00:06:18.75\00:06:21.81 my children need to here this, my husband, 00:06:22.09\00:06:25.12 my mom and dad. So I've already put it out there with my mom. 00:06:25.27\00:06:28.27 I said mom, I'll pay half if you'll come. 00:06:28.45\00:06:31.36 - Wow 00:06:31.37\00:06:32.39 We'll make you a package deal if you bring the whole family. 00:06:32.51\00:06:35.51 What is that? 15-20 people 00:06:35.57\00:06:37.42 We will make you a deal. 00:06:37.43\00:06:39.27 It is so wonderful 00:06:39.39\00:06:42.12 It really is though Ron 00:06:42.13\00:06:43.81 It is beyond what I could have asked or imagined. 00:06:44.57\00:06:49.54 It really is. God gave me a gift in this. 00:06:49.78\00:06:54.33 Ron, I really did pray about this, 00:06:54.66\00:06:59.45 The Lord really ordered my steps here. 00:07:00.12\00:07:03.15 This was not by accident at all! 00:07:03.42\00:07:06.60 He really ordered my steps here directly. 00:07:07.21\00:07:10.06 In the first interview you said 00:07:10.18\00:07:12.24 that you wanted to learn how to cook. 00:07:12.25\00:07:13.30 Did you learn anything about cooking? 00:07:13.42\00:07:15.51 Oh yes! A lot. 00:07:15.52\00:07:16.54 I learned that we can make meat loaf out of nuts. 00:07:16.55\00:07:20.24 It really tastes good! 00:07:21.24\00:07:22.78 -You mean nut loaf Yes 00:07:22.79\00:07:24.51 Meatless nut loaf. 00:07:24.52\00:07:25.69 It really tastes delicious 00:07:25.70\00:07:27.60 - Isn't that amazing! 00:07:27.61\00:07:28.69 It is! Very much so. 00:07:28.70\00:07:30.06 I was so excieted when I started eating here. 00:07:30.07\00:07:32.57 and I realized that I really didn't have to give up any food. 00:07:32.81\00:07:35.75 - No, not at all 00:07:35.76\00:07:37.63 They take such good care of us here. 00:07:38.06\00:07:41.72 They provide nutritious, lovely dishes 00:07:41.73\00:07:45.84 in the dinning room and than we get to go 00:07:45.85\00:07:48.72 to the cooking school and learn how to make 00:07:48.87\00:07:51.66 these lovely vegan dishes. 00:07:51.67\00:07:53.51 My favorite has to be the haystack. 00:07:53.52\00:07:56.15 That is a good one! 00:07:56.16\00:07:58.06 Now let me ask you a question. 00:07:58.07\00:08:00.33 Aside from me, who is your favorite person. 00:08:00.69\00:08:03.75 My favorite person? - I had to say that. 00:08:04.09\00:08:07.06 I didn't mean to put you on the spot. 00:08:07.12\00:08:09.81 You had someone that you connected with here, 00:08:10.09\00:08:12.45 Usally you connect with somebody. - Oh here 00:08:12.46\00:08:14.78 Whether it be a guest, or doctor, or our chaplen 00:08:14.79\00:08:21.18 Maybe that is a unfair question. 00:08:21.57\00:08:23.87 Maybe I could say, who did you really connect with 00:08:24.42\00:08:28.12 and really enjoy being with. 00:08:28.24\00:08:31.06 That is almost a unfair question because so many needs were met 00:08:32.33\00:08:37.06 by different professionals here really. 00:08:37.75\00:08:40.66 - You could say everyone. That is okay. 00:08:40.84\00:08:43.54 I want to say everyone and I really mean that. 00:08:43.55\00:08:47.66 I really really mean that. 00:08:47.67\00:08:49.06 What I thought was so neat was how the Lord 00:08:50.48\00:08:53.36 brings people in the sessions together that... 00:08:54.36\00:08:58.45 A special group of people. 00:08:58.46\00:09:02.84 I think He pulls them and brings them and draws them 00:09:03.15\00:09:05.63 for such a time as this. There is one gal who I really 00:09:05.78\00:09:09.24 connected with. We would find our levels on the trails. 00:09:09.25\00:09:14.51 We would encourage each other. 00:09:14.52\00:09:16.63 So as far as a guest is concerned, 00:09:16.78\00:09:18.54 I know the Lord puts these guests here for a reason. 00:09:18.69\00:09:24.21 So that was very special but I really enjoyed Dr. Lukens. 00:09:24.51\00:09:30.27 He was really great, passionate and encouraging 00:09:30.39\00:09:35.06 Very encouraging, very! 00:09:35.15\00:09:37.75 and knowlegable and I could go on... 00:09:38.09\00:09:40.57 He is a real gift. 00:09:40.58\00:09:42.06 He is a very good friend of mine. 00:09:42.21\00:09:44.36 We are going to be speaking with him 00:09:44.69\00:09:46.39 right after our interview here. 00:09:46.40\00:09:48.36 He is such an incredible doctor 00:09:48.37\00:09:52.24 He has been gifted, God has given him many gifts. 00:09:52.25\00:09:55.18 One of them is that he loves Jesus. 00:09:55.39\00:09:57.81 More than anything. I'm so grateful 00:09:58.09\00:10:00.54 to be aquatinted with him. 00:10:01.06\00:10:02.87 Because I've learned so much. 00:10:02.88\00:10:04.15 I love it because everytime before we end 00:10:04.42\00:10:07.48 we pray together. He prays for me. 00:10:07.49\00:10:10.42 I think that is so special 00:10:10.43\00:10:12.45 So we are prayed up and encouraged 00:10:12.46\00:10:15.84 and we are taught beautiful things. 00:10:16.18\00:10:17.57 It is life changing 00:10:17.58\00:10:18.63 I just want to thank you so much for being willing 00:10:18.64\00:10:21.75 to come on our program 00:10:22.30\00:10:24.39 and speake the truth and share with our viewers. 00:10:24.72\00:10:27.81 My prayer is that you take this home, 00:10:28.36\00:10:30.78 you continue on the path. 00:10:31.15\00:10:32.66 The next time we talk, 00:10:33.18\00:10:34.51 in a few months when you've done another blood draw. 00:10:34.78\00:10:37.48 that the numbers are even better. 00:10:37.84\00:10:39.39 - Thank you Thank you so much 00:10:39.51\00:10:41.15 Thank you friends but don't go away because 00:10:42.12\00:10:44.33 Dr. Lukens will be right with us. 00:10:44.34\00:10:46.69 Well, You've done very well. 00:10:48.06\00:10:50.63 Do you have diebetes, heart disease, high blood pressure 00:10:55.54\00:10:59.39 or do you weigh too much? 00:10:59.66\00:11:01.51 Hi, my name is Dr. Ing, and I'd like to tell you 00:11:01.87\00:11:04.63 about our 18-day newstart lifestyle program. 00:11:04.84\00:11:08.21 It includes a comprehensive medical evaluation 00:11:08.30\00:11:11.48 with labratory studies and a exercise stress test, 00:11:11.75\00:11:14.60 physician consultation, culinary school 00:11:14.84\00:11:18.78 and an oportunity to walk on beautiful trails 00:11:19.27\00:11:22.21 in the foothills of the Sierras. 00:11:22.57\00:11:25.66 Your health is one of the most important things 00:11:26.06\00:11:28.15 that you have, don't wait! 00:11:28.39\00:11:30.39 Welcome back friends and in our studio, Dr. Lukens 00:11:53.84\00:11:58.24 What a grip. -Yeah very good to be back. 00:11:58.25\00:12:00.57 It's good to have you here 00:12:00.69\00:12:02.15 and it's really good to be talking about this young lady. 00:12:02.16\00:12:05.21 because she has so much enthusiasm. 00:12:05.72\00:12:08.30 oh you thought that was enthusiasm? 00:12:08.31\00:12:10.24 I don't know what to label it but she is really excited. 00:12:10.25\00:12:13.63 - and she should be. 00:12:13.72\00:12:15.57 She should be. It was wonderful. 00:12:15.84\00:12:18.39 It is good to see someone that has that. 00:12:18.72\00:12:21.27 Because people come here and you can tell it sometimes. 00:12:21.75\00:12:26.54 They have fear in their heart. 00:12:27.15\00:12:28.63 You can see it in their eyes. 00:12:29.33\00:12:31.24 - Yes 00:12:31.33\00:12:32.33 Her busband is a emergancy room doctor. 00:12:32.45\00:12:37.51 so he has seen so many people come in. 00:12:37.52\00:12:39.63 He knows what can happen with numbers like she had. 00:12:40.54\00:12:43.87 He has seen a lot of that. 00:12:44.27\00:12:45.75 on the other hand, what he is in now 00:12:46.66\00:12:50.57 is planning and development and stuff 00:12:50.58\00:12:53.66 He has potential to affect a lot of people. 00:12:54.30\00:12:58.21 because he is going to have to try to work 00:12:58.72\00:13:01.12 with all of our health care. 00:13:01.13\00:13:03.21 Shortage of dollars and all of the things 00:13:03.78\00:13:06.06 that we are going through now. 00:13:06.07\00:13:07.30 So when he sees this happen, 00:13:07.60\00:13:09.30 in someone that he loves, 00:13:09.81\00:13:11.48 and he can see what happens, 00:13:11.81\00:13:13.51 that is going to help him a lot! 00:13:13.69\00:13:15.72 Well you know, it wouldn't surprise me at all 00:13:16.18\00:13:19.42 if her husband along with her mother 00:13:19.72\00:13:22.48 who she has asked to come here and she would pay half 00:13:22.49\00:13:26.24 To get several of the family members down here 00:13:26.25\00:13:29.54 because I think you hit the nail on the head. 00:13:29.55\00:13:31.87 This doctor is going to be treating other guests and saying 00:13:32.21\00:13:35.75 My wife did this so don't be surprised if you get 00:13:35.76\00:13:39.48 a phone call saying hey doctor Lukens, 00:13:39.57\00:13:42.12 will you come up here and do a... 00:13:42.13\00:13:43.42 Have you done that? 00:13:43.43\00:13:44.84 It is bigger than that because what I understand, 00:13:45.15\00:13:48.66 he is in the planning of some of all this healthcare stuff. 00:13:49.15\00:13:52.33 He is on the cutting edge and for him to have seen this, 00:13:52.34\00:13:57.21 She's had a couple of doctors and as they see these numbers, 00:13:57.78\00:14:02.84 and they see what can happen with these numbers, 00:14:03.27\00:14:06.21 they are rightly concerned but as we go through the literature 00:14:06.22\00:14:10.09 especially in the last few months, we see that lifestyle 00:14:10.10\00:14:14.87 is just hands down the way that you want to go 00:14:15.60\00:14:19.21 and lifestyle has the side effects of healthful living, 00:14:19.54\00:14:24.09 an increased spirit, and being able to do things 00:14:24.84\00:14:28.60 that you thought were in the past and doing 00:14:28.61\00:14:31.63 things that you were doing before. 00:14:31.87\00:14:34.06 I've got another patient here that is 90 years of age 00:14:34.48\00:14:37.72 and had recently slowed down in the last little bit. 00:14:37.73\00:14:40.72 He can see that even that can be turned around. 00:14:41.24\00:14:43.36 It is a wonderful thing to see that. 00:14:43.84\00:14:47.24 Sometimes the doctors are so concerned about the patient 00:14:47.63\00:14:51.66 when they see a cholestorol of 277 and the LDL. 00:14:51.67\00:14:57.39 when we've got lipid guidlines, cholestorol guidlines, 00:14:57.72\00:15:01.42 and if you have a LDL of 170, your chances in the future 00:15:01.78\00:15:07.57 of having a coronary event (heart attack) is way up there. 00:15:08.57\00:15:13.12 It's like yes you will have it. 00:15:13.13\00:15:15.36 When? We don't know. 00:15:15.37\00:15:16.39 For her to go like that, it's just amazing. 00:15:16.45\00:15:19.51 -You bring up a good point because her ratio was 6.0 00:15:19.52\00:15:23.06 on her first draw. On her second draw it was 4.0 00:15:23.33\00:15:26.42 Exactly! How was it that it dropped 33%? 00:15:27.09\00:15:29.84 We see that sometimes and one of the things 00:15:29.85\00:15:33.18 that she really caught on to. 00:15:33.19\00:15:34.81 and that was we told her when she first came, 00:15:35.30\00:15:38.06 we told everyone when they first came, 00:15:38.72\00:15:40.72 I could tell that she was watching 00:15:40.73\00:15:43.36 when I intruduced the program to the people. 00:15:43.37\00:15:46.54 I thought this is someone who is really drinking this in 00:15:46.55\00:15:49.87 and she is going to do it. 00:15:49.88\00:15:51.87 She was walking up to 8-10 miles per day. 00:15:51.88\00:15:55.45 and I told her that 2/3 of your program is excercise 00:15:55.46\00:16:03.06 I used to be hesitant to say that but it does so many things! 00:16:03.15\00:16:07.09 The thing is that she lost about 15lbs of fat. 00:16:07.10\00:16:11.24 but than she gained the lean body mass. 00:16:11.25\00:16:13.45 Weight is kind of a nebulous thing. 00:16:13.81\00:16:17.36 She got her triglycerides to drop a tremendous amount. 00:16:17.37\00:16:23.48 Triglycerides are very sensitive to exercise, 00:16:23.60\00:16:26.72 usally when your cholestorol drops... She dropped a lot 00:16:26.73\00:16:30.54 in her cholesterol! More than 50 points. 00:16:30.55\00:16:32.36 When your total cholesterol drops, 00:16:32.69\00:16:35.18 usually your HDL will drop and hers went up 5 or 7 points. 00:16:35.19\00:16:41.06 It was really really good. She has the justifiable reason 00:16:41.07\00:16:49.15 for being very exuberant. 00:16:49.51\00:16:51.30 So here is the magical question if you will. 00:16:51.31\00:16:54.81 If this is that simple, why can't we just 00:16:55.84\00:16:59.84 tell the viewers right now, what they need to do 00:16:59.85\00:17:03.78 and have hem change their lives? 00:17:04.27\00:17:05.63 We can and we can tell them in less than 30 seconds. 00:17:06.54\00:17:09.84 You need to walk, that's the most important 00:17:10.48\00:17:12.27 thing you can do in your program. 3-5 miles 00:17:12.28\00:17:15.45 People say "I can't even walk half a mile, 00:17:15.46\00:17:18.48 what do you mean doc?" 00:17:18.49\00:17:20.15 Well we have people that come here that are in a wheelchair 00:17:20.16\00:17:22.42 and can walk one mile around our loop 00:17:22.43\00:17:26.42 which is quite difficult within the 18 days. 00:17:26.43\00:17:30.72 -That's right 00:17:30.73\00:17:31.72 So you can start on doing something 00:17:31.73\00:17:33.06 and than just like Esselstyn, Ornish, Mchdougle 00:17:33.15\00:17:36.06 all of thoes guys say look, 00:17:36.66\00:17:40.78 you really have to get the free fat out of your diet 00:17:41.54\00:17:44.42 and than you will be able to do this. 00:17:44.57\00:17:46.63 So whole plant foods and than the last two are very important. 00:17:46.78\00:17:50.06 Eaten whole, simply naturally prepared without any grease, 00:17:50.33\00:17:56.06 oil, or fats that are added to it. 00:17:56.07\00:17:58.57 other parts come and and people can do that. 00:17:59.36\00:18:02.66 We want all of our guests to fill out a eight week calender 00:18:03.21\00:18:08.33 Dr. Art Ulene on the today's show in 1995 and in 1997. 00:18:09.09\00:18:15.72 He had people fill out the calender. 00:18:16.06\00:18:18.06 If you do something for eight weeks, 00:18:18.39\00:18:20.39 and we will send you a calender. 00:18:20.40\00:18:21.66 If you do something for eight weeks, 00:18:21.87\00:18:23.78 you've got that down. 00:18:24.57\00:18:25.72 -Amen 00:18:25.73\00:18:26.78 and as they do that kind of stuff... 00:18:26.87\00:18:29.66 and what was really touching is that 00:18:30.42\00:18:32.33 you can tell that she loves Jesus 00:18:32.72\00:18:35.06 and she realizes that this is His way 00:18:35.07\00:18:38.63 and this is His gift to me. 00:18:39.39\00:18:41.45 and I want my family here as well. 00:18:41.46\00:18:44.09 I tell all of the guests. I tell them that 00:18:44.33\00:18:47.24 they need to be gentle with the people back home. 00:18:47.25\00:18:52.60 She has a first born daughter, mid 20's 00:18:52.78\00:18:57.57 and she is alraedy an a accomplished person, 00:18:57.58\00:19:00.15 she has a son who is probably 00:19:00.51\00:19:03.15 going to go into what the father does. 00:19:03.16\00:19:06.45 She also has a 18 year old, and he's still at home 00:19:06.48\00:19:09.45 and he's interested in international things 00:19:09.51\00:19:12.69 So she's got these precious kids 00:19:12.81\00:19:14.87 and I told her that everywhere she goes, 00:19:15.36\00:19:18.48 go really really easy. 00:19:18.49\00:19:20.21 His people are expecting... 00:19:20.42\00:19:22.06 they're gonna come home, and cook this way 00:19:22.48\00:19:25.06 I'm gonna eat that way. 00:19:25.09\00:19:26.15 She isn't going to do that but some people do you know 00:19:26.16\00:19:29.21 -Yeah and it turns people off so much. 00:19:29.22\00:19:32.06 Like I told you when I saw 00:19:32.07\00:19:33.87 what a wonderful thing it did... 00:19:33.88\00:19:35.51 I used to follow people around 00:19:35.52\00:19:37.09 when they were pushing their shopping carts 00:19:37.33\00:19:38.87 and talk to them, 00:19:38.88\00:19:40.09 until their eyes would glaze over 00:19:40.10\00:19:42.06 But anyways, we had one 00:19:43.72\00:19:45.39 this lady had gestational diabetes 00:19:45.48\00:19:48.78 with her last born who is still an infant 00:19:49.09\00:19:51.09 and then she had a 7 and a 5 year old 00:19:51.24\00:19:57.45 and we got her off her insulin and so forth 00:19:57.60\00:20:00.36 but anyway, 00:20:00.57\00:20:02.15 her two older kids after about 6 weeks 00:20:02.36\00:20:04.75 they came back and they said, 00:20:04.81\00:20:06.15 "Mommy..." 00:20:06.16\00:20:07.21 as a delegation, 00:20:07.30\00:20:08.57 "When are we going to go back to real food?" 00:20:08.66\00:20:12.24 *Laughs* 00:20:12.27\00:20:14.51 So you have to be very gentle 00:20:14.63\00:20:17.87 You have to be gentle with the 00:20:18.12\00:20:20.42 with the family and so forth. 00:20:20.84\00:20:22.24 And them when they keep seeing it... 00:20:22.60\00:20:24.24 We had a chaplin that was here and he said, 00:20:24.39\00:20:26.87 "Look, it's easier, 00:20:27.06\00:20:29.06 really when you think about it, 00:20:29.60\00:20:31.12 to suceed, then to try to explain why you didn't." 00:20:31.42\00:20:36.24 and I think that's wonderful. 00:20:36.48\00:20:38.15 -You know doc, I can talk with you for hours and hours 00:20:38.24\00:20:42.24 about our guests and such. 00:20:42.27\00:20:43.78 You know I know the viewers are watching, 00:20:44.27\00:20:46.30 and they say, "ok..." 00:20:46.36\00:20:47.48 that's easy for you to say 00:20:47.57\00:20:49.21 that I can walk 5 or 6 miles a day, 00:20:49.22\00:20:51.24 but I can't even get out of the chair, 00:20:51.39\00:20:53.69 and how do you cook vegan, I don't know anything about that 00:20:54.03\00:20:56.81 Well what I'm going to say to you right now viewer, 00:20:57.06\00:20:59.60 is that you need to pick up that phone 00:20:59.69\00:21:01.63 and give us a call cause you need help. 00:21:01.69\00:21:03.48 You've got to call us at 00:21:03.75\00:21:05.15 800-925-9192 00:21:05.30\00:21:08.45 Don't try this on your own 00:21:08.57\00:21:10.30 if you have no knowledge of what you're doing. 00:21:10.39\00:21:12.12 Cause what's going to happen is you might fail 00:21:12.36\00:21:14.72 if you fail you'll lose hope 00:21:14.78\00:21:17.15 if you lose hope that's the end of the game. 00:21:17.30\00:21:20.06 Dr. Lukens thank you for joining us 00:21:20.54\00:21:22.33 God Bless you and your work here at Weimar. 00:21:22.48\00:21:25.18 -And bless the patients. 00:21:25.27\00:21:26.72 And bless you, but don't go away 00:21:27.12\00:21:29.12 we have a tip for following this. 00:21:29.21\00:21:31.30 Hello, I'm Dr. David DeRose. 00:21:32.36\00:21:35.21 You know helping a friend, 00:21:35.22\00:21:36.57 neighbor, or relative have better 00:21:36.58\00:21:38.30 health is one of the most practical 00:21:38.31\00:21:40.39 forms of health ministry available. 00:21:40.40\00:21:42.42 However if you're not a health professional 00:21:42.51\00:21:44.33 it can be extremely difficult to know 00:21:44.34\00:21:46.54 how to help someone access reliable, 00:21:46.55\00:21:48.66 credible, up to date health information. 00:21:48.67\00:21:51.33 That's why I recommend the NEWSTART Lifestyle Club. 00:21:51.78\00:21:55.06 The Club is based on the world famous NEWSTART principles that 00:21:55.18\00:21:58.48 have helped millions be well 00:21:58.49\00:22:00.12 naturally without the use of drugs. 00:22:00.13\00:22:02.06 The Club offers streaming video, 00:22:02.12\00:22:04.15 expert health advice, wellness tips, tools, and more! 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There was a study done in 1974 00:24:22.24\00:24:26.45 and it showed that 75% of the eggs 00:24:26.72\00:24:29.84 had the chicken lukemi virus 00:24:29.85\00:24:32.21 transmited to it from the mother. 00:24:32.30\00:24:34.06 That was a long time ago, 00:24:34.30\00:24:35.60 Is that situation getting better or worse? 00:24:35.61\00:24:37.42 We don't know if it is getting better or worse! 00:24:37.43\00:24:38.45 I haven't seen any later data. 00:24:38.46\00:24:39.63 But I would think by the way the indistry is going 00:24:39.64\00:24:43.18 that they are still finding eggs full of Lukosis. 00:24:43.51\00:24:48.75 Even the chickens are full of Lukosis 00:24:48.87\00:24:51.12 and full of Merics disease which are two types of Lukemia 00:24:51.21\00:24:54.24 that are killing thousands of chickens. 00:24:54.25\00:24:56.57 and they have to vaccinate against them 00:24:56.58\00:24:58.24 and so I'm sure that most of the eggs today 00:24:58.48\00:25:01.15 are having the same problem. 00:25:01.42\00:25:03.57 Now recently Merk was having a hard time finding 00:25:03.58\00:25:07.33 enough eggs that were Lukemia free. 00:25:07.34\00:25:11.06 So we've got this problem with Lukemia in chicken eggs, 00:25:11.30\00:25:14.06 Are chicken eggs healthy are we into this very controlled 00:25:14.18\00:25:20.06 environment for the chickens. Would this be good for them 00:25:20.07\00:25:22.72 or not? - Well you know the problem 00:25:22.73\00:25:24.24 with chickens, the way they are being raised today. 00:25:24.25\00:25:26.63 They are raised per chicken has about this much 00:25:26.64\00:25:29.78 space to move around. They can't flap there wings, 00:25:29.79\00:25:32.21 Wait a minute wait a minute just stop. 00:25:32.22\00:25:33.54 The size of this paper is the amount of room a chicken 00:25:33.55\00:25:37.33 has to move around? - The cage is about 15" by 18" 00:25:37.34\00:25:42.27 and each cage has about 4-6 chickens in it and so 00:25:42.28\00:25:47.12 that limits the space that each hen that lays eggs 00:25:47.27\00:25:51.51 has is about that much space right there. 00:25:51.52\00:25:53.69 Well they are basically packed in there. 00:25:53.70\00:25:55.06 A hen isn't that much bigger than a sheet of paper is it? 00:25:55.07\00:25:57.54 That's right. - Is this harmful 00:25:57.63\00:26:00.06 to their health and the health of the eggs? 00:26:00.07\00:26:01.84 They are sitting on a wire cage, they are not able to get out 00:26:01.85\00:26:05.78 and roam and keep their system clean and pure. 00:26:05.79\00:26:08.24 They are breathing ammonia filled air because 00:26:08.25\00:26:11.15 the fieceses drop down and they can't spread their wings, 00:26:11.16\00:26:14.12 they can't get exercise, they can't perch, 00:26:14.13\00:26:17.06 they can't prene, they can't do all of the natural behaviors. 00:26:17.07\00:26:19.72 They even become cannibalistic and start eating each other. 00:26:19.73\00:26:22.63 Of course the food that they are getting 00:26:23.06\00:26:24.81 is a lot of meat scrapps and high 00:26:24.82\00:26:26.24 protein foods in order to produce more eggs. 00:26:26.25\00:26:29.18 Instead of 25 eggs per year 00:26:29.30\00:26:31.36 they are producing 250 eggs a year. 00:26:31.37\00:26:33.66 So what I hear you saying Galend is if somebody is 00:26:33.81\00:26:37.63 just looking at how these chickens are being raised 00:26:37.64\00:26:40.30 you are going to say, something is a miss here 00:26:40.31\00:26:42.12 and these animals are predisposed to disease, 00:26:42.13\00:26:45.30 that is what the statistics tell us 00:26:45.31\00:26:46.57 and it is not likely that their products, 00:26:46.84\00:26:49.12 their eggs are going to be very healthy. 00:26:49.13\00:26:50.60 Are their any other diseases that we are 00:26:50.61\00:26:52.57 concerned about being transmited? 00:26:52.58\00:26:53.69 Saminila has been a big issue in eggs 00:26:54.06\00:26:56.87 being transmitted to the egg from the mother. 00:26:56.88\00:26:59.60 The Saminila bacteria and there are other things. 00:26:59.61\00:27:02.84 Even staff, Ecoli, Mycoplasma, 00:27:03.06\00:27:06.75 Different kinds of bacteria being transmitted into the eggs. 00:27:07.09\00:27:10.75 Of course they have to give them lots of 00:27:11.06\00:27:12.15 antibiotics, keep testing them 00:27:12.27\00:27:14.06 in order to suppress these diseases. 00:27:14.51\00:27:16.36 So it sounds like you are saying, 00:27:16.69\00:27:18.06 If I'm going to eat eggs, if my cholestorol is fine, 00:27:18.15\00:27:21.12 If I don't have any other concerns about eggs, 00:27:21.13\00:27:23.15 I better get my own hens and having them lay eggs. 00:27:23.16\00:27:26.12 That would be the best way but even than 00:27:26.13\00:27:28.06 you don't know where they came from because 00:27:28.07\00:27:30.06 the virus could be in those chickens 00:27:30.07\00:27:32.21 and be transmited into the eggs. 00:27:32.51\00:27:34.72 Listen, if you're wondering about a optimal diet 00:27:35.09\00:27:38.66 The evidence keeps accumulating 00:27:38.67\00:27:40.54 God knew what He was doing when He gave 00:27:40.84\00:27:42.84 us that original diet in Genesis. 1:29 00:27:42.85\00:27:45.09 For more information go to NEWSTART 00:27:45.24\00:27:47.06 Newstart Club.com 00:27:47.07\00:27:48.21 Well friends, that's it for today. 00:27:56.06\00:27:57.72 Thank you for joining us 00:27:57.81\00:27:59.24 Parker and give us a call at: 00:27:59.36\00:28:01.75