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00:23 Hi friends and welcome to
00:25 another edition of NEWSTART Now.
00:27 I'm really excited today, and for those of you who may
00:32 be suffering a little bit from depression or anxiety,
00:36 I would like you to pay
00:37 particular attention to this interview.
00:40 In our studio we have Judith and
00:43 we want to take a look at when she
00:46 first arrived and you tell me if you
00:49 see a difference between then and now.
00:53 The anxiety and depression have
00:57 basically kept me from living life.
01:01 I spend most of my time in front of the
01:04 television or on the computer, just playing games.
01:10 I have not lived life in a really,
01:12 really long time.
01:14 The depression has been with
01:16 me for twenty years, minimum,
01:19 and it's been a lot of ups and downs
01:23 but my coping skills are not that good
01:27 I have had several suicide attempts and the fact that
01:31 I'm alive today is a real miracle and a testament to God.
01:36 I'd like to see myself become more mobile,
01:39 to be better able to handle the
01:41 stresses of life, and to be happier.
01:47 What I want from the NEWSTART program
01:49 is to live a life that is worth living
01:52 and a life that is worth living for God
01:55 and to be a testament to His awesomeness.
02:01 Amen. Well in our studio, Judith,
02:04 thank you so much for joining us.
02:06 Thank you for having me.
02:08 Yes. Now I asked you earlier,
02:10 do you see a difference? I certainly do.
02:14 And I know our viewers are looking now and going,
02:17 that isn't really the same lady, is it?
02:20 You tell us your experience. What's happened here?
02:23 It is the same person. Although, I'm much happier
02:27 inside and with a little bit of a song in my heart so, yes.
02:32 Praise God. -Yes. There's
02:34 several different treatments
02:37 here that I'm using to help me to work through the depression
02:43 and also to kind of shock
02:46 my brain into a happier me.
02:50 Well you told me about one of your treatments
02:52 and we've got to share this with the guests.
02:54 Don't try this at home, by the way. I assure you,
02:58 you may have a little palpitations or something.
03:01 Tell us what happened in the hydro.
03:03 I'm doing hot and cold contrast baths
03:07 and the hot temperature is 114 degrees,
03:11 and I stay in that tub for three minutes,
03:14 submerged up to my neck,
03:16 and then I go into the cold tub which
03:18 is right beside the hot tub and I go in
03:20 as quickly as I can because when I go in slow,
03:23 it's harder to get into the water
03:25 so I'm in that one for one
03:28 minute at 50 degrees. -50 degrees.
03:31 We started out with 112 and 56 degrees and
03:34 now we're kind of putting them to more extremes.
03:38 And what does that do for you?
03:41 It helps my brain.
03:43 I imagine with the seratonin, and the neurons and I'm not
03:49 exactly sure about the
03:51 science behind it but it's working.
03:53 Whatever it is, it's working.
03:54 Well, you know, I've learned many, many
03:56 many years ago that just a cold
04:00 shower will pop you out of a mood.
04:03 Whether it'll pop you out of depression,
04:04 I'm not sure but I know it can change moods.
04:09 So -It's invigorating, very invigorating.
04:12 What else has happened here that has helped you?
04:15 You look different, you're more radiant,
04:18 you have a little glow here. Tell us about that.
04:21 I have been doing some walking,
04:23 not a lot because of my physical pain,
04:25 but I have been mostly walking
04:28 the hallways and on the treadmill.
04:31 I'm waiting for the day to be walking outside,
04:34 so -When the sun starts shining.
04:37 When the sun starts shining
04:38 and it's not pouring buckets.
04:41 It's been raining here quite a bit.
04:42 It is. And the fact that it
04:43 has been raining and my mood is still up,
04:47 that's a really good sign,
04:49 Because usually the weather affects me.
04:53 Yes, it affects all of us, to be honest.
04:57 Now aside from the hydro and the hot and cold,
05:01 what else did you like about being here?
05:06 Spending time with the chaplain, and the
05:09 spiritual guidance that she offers me and the lectures.
05:13 I'm finding the lectures very helpful,
05:15 very enriching and it's giving me hope for the future.
05:24 You know, that's such a wonderful word
05:26 because that word just kind of rings in my head
05:30 because when my wife was asked by Shelley Quinn on 3ABN,
05:35 where this program will be aired,
05:38 she asked Cindy, she said, well as Ron was
05:41 going through all these changes, what did you see?
05:44 And she said you know,
05:45 I saw for the first time, he had hope.
05:48 Yeah. -And you have just shared
05:51 that and that's a powerful word.
05:55 And I'd like you to rephrase it once again so our viewers,
05:59 there are people out there,
06:02 you know, are suffering from depression.
06:05 They think it's the end of the world.
06:07 What hope can you give them?
06:11 Before I came to Weimar,
06:13 I went through a very difficult period,
06:16 for about two weeks and I really did not think I
06:19 was going to make it
06:21 through that pit and as a result,
06:24 I was unable to eat and I lost ten pounds before I came.
06:28 And I'm actually looking towards
06:31 another session here at Weimar.
06:34 I feel like I need more time to come up with a plan for my
06:38 life because I really was not
06:39 living life before I came to Weimar.
06:42 And I so want to live life. I really do.
06:46 Well, so now you're staying for two sessions. -Yes I am.
06:51 I know that cause I was involved in
06:54 getting you here for a second session.
06:57 Do you think that it's absolutely
06:59 necessary for everyone to have two sessions?
07:03 I don't know that everybody needs it but I have
07:06 been in such a dark place for such a long time.
07:10 I mean when you think twenty years
07:13 of being depressed and not really
07:16 knowing how to turn that around I feel
07:19 like I need more guidance in that area.
07:23 Yes. -What about the food? Have you enjoyed the food here?
07:28 I have enjoyed the food and I eat to my heart's content.
07:33 And it's okay. The doctors
07:34 say that it's fine, right?
07:36 Yes, and I'm losing weight
07:38 regardless of how much I eat.
07:40 Have you lost any inches, you think?
07:43 I haven't tried that one yet, we haven't looked at that.
07:47 We'll probably look at that at the
07:50 end of next session. -Okay, good.
07:52 Now, what about the other folks,
07:55 the staff, that you came in contact with?
07:59 The nurses, the exercise therapists, the dietician.
08:03 Did you have any positive results there?
08:09 The staff has been, just a real blessing.
08:14 I have never seen an unkind word come from them.
08:19 I mean, they're always there
08:21 encouraging you and praying with you when you're
08:23 having difficulties and it's just so
08:31 encouraging to know that people are praying for you.
08:37 And not just like right with you like when
08:40 they meet in between shifts and stuff like that,
08:43 they're praying for each of us, individually,
08:46 and I know it's working. I mean without prayer,
08:50 I don't think I'd be as far along as I am right now. -Amen.
08:55 Praise God and Amen. Thank God for the people and
08:59 those of us who are willing to be prayer warriors,
09:03 and certainly you can feel those,
09:06 maybe feeling is not the
09:09 right word but you're
09:11 witnessing this change in yourself.
09:14 I am, I am. -So do you feel confident now,
09:20 after being here 17 days,
09:22 that you've learned a new
09:25 lifestyle that you can stick to?
09:28 I have learned a new lifestyle. My biggest challenge now
09:34 is putting that lifestyle into practice when I leave Weimar.
09:39 It's easy when the structure is here
09:40 in front of you but when you go home,
09:44 it's a different story and it's
09:46 going to take a lot of prayer.
09:49 Well, I want to add a little encouragement to you.
09:52 I left Weimar, August of '05, at the end of an 18 day program.
09:59 My wife and I went home and we were off campus
10:03 here for about three years before we returned.
10:07 We were totally vegan and
10:08 still staying on the program.
10:10 So I want you to know
10:12 that you can do that. -Yes.
10:14 After this next 18 days, I'm
10:17 positive you're going to be able to do that.
10:19 So we've run out of time.
10:21 I want to thank you for being here.
10:23 Thank you. -We're going
10:24 to be talking with Dr.
10:25 Ing in just a moment. Thank you so much.
10:27 Thank you so much, Ron.
10:28 And thank you, folks. Don't go away. Dr.
10:31 Ing is going to be with us right after this.
10:35 Well you've done very well.
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11:40 Welcome back friends and as I promised, Dr.
11:43 Clarence Ing. How are you Doctor?
11:45 It's great to be here, Ron.
11:46 It's good to see you.
11:48 And it's particularly good to see you and discuss.
11:52 You know, you said before
11:53 the program there's not a lot
11:55 of numbers we can discuss
11:57 as far as blood work and all.
11:59 But don't you think this lady, Judith,
12:03 has made an incredible turnaround here?
12:06 Well, you know when you begin to
12:09 follow the principles of healthful
12:12 living and eat right and exercise
12:15 and take time to fellowship with God
12:19 it has a profound impact and influence on your life,
12:23 Because, you know, with
12:24 exercise we find that exercise produces
12:27 some natural endorphins and
12:29 endorphins help you to feel better.
12:31 Yes. -And when you eat the right type
12:34 of food that even makes a difference.
12:36 But I know there's people watching us and going,
12:39 it can't be that simple.
12:41 It just cannot be that simple that you can come to the
12:44 NEWSTART program and all of a
12:46 sudden you're miraculously cured.
12:49 But I don't even want to use that word, cured.
12:52 You feel better and it's real obvious to me on camera.
12:55 You can see this lady is just glowing.
12:58 She's got this little redness in her face now.
13:02 Well it's really true. You know there's this
13:06 excellent article and this was published in 1980 or '81.
13:12 See that's an old article but they verified
13:14 something that we've heard from otherwise.
13:17 They had some people who were primarily vegetarians
13:21 and then they had them eat some meat,
13:24 fish, chicken and it was animal protein.
13:27 Then they went back to their vegetarian diet.
13:30 And the study was intially
13:32 designed to see what would happen to
13:34 their blood pressure and their
13:36 cholesterol and triglycerides and so on.
13:39 But someone along the way got the bright idea of checking
13:43 and seeing if this made a
13:45 difference in the individual's mood.
13:48 So they checked for factors like vigor,
13:51 fatigue, you know, anxiety, the negative parts.
13:56 And it was interesting that
13:59 when they were on the plant eating
14:00 phase compared with the meat
14:02 eating phase that vigor was much better,
14:07 their energy level was better, and anger,
14:10 fatigue and anxiety were much
14:13 higher during the meat eating phase,
14:16 than on the plant eating phase.
14:18 Aggressiveness. -Yeah that's very interesting.
14:20 Especially when we view that in line
14:22 with what Ellen White said about the
14:25 differences in temperament or mood when people
14:29 eat meat compared to when they don't eat meat.
14:32 And it's true. And also for parents who have children,
14:39 I submit to the parents,
14:41 if you want to raise your children,
14:45 It's going to be a lot easier to raise them on a
14:47 plant based diet than it is on the standard American diet.
14:51 All of our five children were raised like that.
14:53 They weren't angels. They weren't perfect.
14:56 But I would not want to face the challenges
14:59 if they were on the standard American diet.
15:02 I mean, it would've been much more challenging, I'm certain.
15:06 So if you want to make your life alot
15:08 simpler and alot easier, eat a plant based diet.
15:11 Now I don't want to present
15:14 NEWSTART as a place where people can come,
15:19 And all of a sudden they're going to be healed or
15:22 feeling better if they're in a state of depression.
15:25 However, we have dealt with folks in depression.
15:32 I for one, was one of them. I don't know if
15:34 you recall but I was depressed when I came here.
15:37 I kind of hit it a little bit, but I'm
15:40 watching people who are going through these changes,
15:44 and yet we hear of stories of
15:46 people who have been to psychotherapists,
15:48 psychologists, psychiatrists, and can't get any help.
15:52 Why is that? -You know,
15:55 it's an interesting question.
15:59 But the thing is, you know, the way we
16:01 think, has a profound influence on how we feel.
16:06 And what we choose to think about makes a big difference.
16:11 Now it's very true that we can't
16:12 control the thoughts that come into our mind,
16:15 but out of the ones that come into our mind,
16:18 we can choose and select
16:19 which ones we want to think about.
16:25 We can choose, for example, if you look at a glass that's
16:28 filled up to the midline,
16:29 is it half full or is it half empty?
16:31 And does that really make a difference?
16:34 I think it makes a profound difference
16:36 whether you are a pessimist or an optimist.
16:40 So attitude has a great deal to do with the healing
16:44 process of someone who's
16:46 suffering from depression, anxiety, or?
16:51 Are there others? -Well I
16:53 definitely think this has a big influence,
16:56 and when people realize that, if they understand that they can
17:00 choose to think differently,
17:02 I don't need to be so pessimistic,
17:04 and true, they can't always put that into
17:07 practice but the unique thing about our program is
17:11 that we can then call upon God to
17:13 help us to change the way that we think.
17:16 You know, we say it's a transformation.
17:20 So if I work together with the Lord,
17:22 I take some time to talk to the Lord each day,
17:25 He can change the way that I think,
17:27 my thought processes, if I'm willing to change.
17:30 Now, he can't change me if i don't want to change.
17:34 Yes. -If I'm
17:35 happy being unhappy,
17:37 you know, it's going to continue to be that way.
17:41 But the interesting thing is that we get
17:43 an opportunity to talk to these people.
17:45 They say, you know, I never realized that.
17:47 I didn't realize that I did things like that,
17:50 and I'm thinking of a guest from a previous program,
17:52 as we talked and shared some of these things,
17:54 he said, you know that makes good sense
17:56 and it does make a difference and so then,the other important
18:00 thing about working with people is
18:02 that we can ask them to make choices.
18:04 I don't say, well try to do this
18:07 because if people try to do this,
18:09 I recognize that in most cases they're going to fail.
18:13 I said, you've got to do more than try,
18:14 you've got to make a choice,
18:16 -Yes. -And once you make
18:17 the choice then you talk
18:18 to the one who can enable you to carry out the choice,
18:22 who empowers you to carry out your
18:24 choice and of course that's God. -Amen.
18:26 That's one of the big fundamental differences
18:29 between the NEWSTART program and a secular program.
18:34 Secular programs very carefully try
18:37 not to involve a higher power or God
18:41 but I know that all of us need God and if we're
18:45 willing to accept Him and let Him come in and work with Him,
18:50 marvelous things happen. -Amen.
18:53 You used a word there, Doc, that's come up
18:56 for me in years past and it's the word "try."
19:00 What I've learned in my life is that
19:03 trying is another word for not doing,
19:06 because when you try you're not committed,
19:10 you're not fully engaged,
19:13 and I'd like you to talk to our viewers
19:17 now about some of the things they can do,
19:21 because there's many people that can't get here.
19:24 For whatever the reasons, my heart goes out to you.
19:28 However I implore you, whatever you can do,
19:32 get here to our NEWSTART program ,
19:34 but I also know that the doctor can give us some tips about what
19:39 you can do right in your home
19:41 so could you address that for us?
19:44 Well, I think one of the most important things
19:46 they can do is have a regular exercise program.
19:50 So exercise, and can we call
19:53 that something other than exercise for a moment?
19:56 Activity. -Activity. Okay so
19:57 Increase your activity level.
19:59 Increase your activity level, okay.That's number one.
20:02 So if you're not doing anything, you can start to move,
20:05 just getting up and moving around,
20:07 doing more walking around the home
20:10 even if we have people, sometimes I have people who,
20:13 when they come to NEWSTART, they can't
20:15 walk or stand up for more than a minute.
20:17 I say, I'll take that minute,
20:19 but I want you to do something for a minute,
20:22 rest for five or ten minutes,
20:25 and then get up and do something else for a minute,
20:27 and you know what if they do this,
20:29 we call this interval training.
20:31 Very rapidly within a few weeks they can do much,
20:34 much more and they have greater
20:36 endurance and they begin to feel better.
20:39 We can see this over and over again.
20:41 So that's like a piece of the puzzle.
20:43 Now we have just a little time left.
20:46 Give us another little piece.
20:48 Well another part is again making a choice
20:50 about how you want to think, choosing to be positive.
20:54 All of us have been hurt, we've been taken advantage of,
20:58 but don't dwell upon the negative,
21:00 dwell upon the positive.
21:01 You know, "a merry heart doeth good like a medicine."
21:04 You can choose to be healthy. Why do you want
21:06 to choose to be sad and gloomy all the time,
21:09 cause that's going to make you unhappy and feel bad.
21:12 Amen. Dr. Ing I want to thank you for joining us.
21:16 God Bless you and your work here at Weimar.
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22:42 Welcome to NEWSTART at Home.
22:45 Today we're speaking about something that comes very
22:47 close to home for all of us. It's our food choices.
22:51 Dr. Galen Comstock, it's great to be on
22:53 the program with you, to have you here.
22:56 You as a family physician have a vested
22:59 interest in people eating healthier diets.
23:02 Thank you, Dr. DeRose. That's my hope is
23:04 that we can get people to eat more healthy.
23:06 One of the challenges though is, alot of times people,
23:10 as they hear us talking about
23:11 the benefits of a vegetarian diet,
23:13 eating more fruits and vegetables,
23:15 they say, yeah, all these foods are so
23:17 healthy but to have some meat,
23:19 to have some dairy, these aren't really bad
23:21 as long as I'm eating lots of greens and other things.
23:24 Is that the message that we want to give?
23:27 You know, my thought on this and
23:29 as I've been doing alot research,
23:31 is that because disease is
23:33 increasing so much among animals,
23:35 We need to be getting a diet that's
23:37 basically plant-based and no dairy products,
23:40 no meat, no eggs, no cheese, that kind of food.
23:43 So you're saying to us,
23:45 as a physician, that you believe the
23:47 healthiest diet is one that
23:48 excludes all of these animal products?
23:50 Everything. -And why are
23:52 you so animate about this?
23:55 You know, if you look at some of the data
23:57 it's interesting that the way they're bringing
23:59 the cows to produce a hundred pounds of milk
24:02 when in nature they produce ten pounds of milk,
24:05 and they do that by feeding them high protein supplements
24:09 and alot of those high protein supplements actually
24:11 have chicken manure in it. It has chicken scraps in it.
24:14 They used to feed them beef scraps and ruminant
24:17 scraps back to the cows so that they would produce more,
24:20 but as you know, that caused something
24:22 called Mad Cow Disease so now that's illegal
24:25 but they can still feed the chickens beef scraps and
24:29 then the chickens are put
24:30 into the cow protein supplements.
24:33 But the average person is eating chicken anyway,
24:35 why should they care if the cow is eating some chicken too?
24:38 Is there some health concern?
24:40 The stress is on the utters of the cows
24:42 because they're geared, they're programmed,
24:45 they're fed to produce all this extra volume of
24:48 milk to make more money for the dairy industry.
24:52 Well is that bad as far
24:53 as the health of the milk?
24:54 Well, what happens is when the
24:56 cow's utter is stretched so drastically,
24:59 they become more prone to mastitis.
25:01 In fact, 79 percent are more prone due to the fact
25:05 that they're being injected by bovine growth hormones,
25:08 by the fact that they're getting this extra protein in the diet,
25:13 and they're being geared, so to speak,
25:15 to produce all of this extra milk.
25:18 So I mean, I can see someone
25:20 who's concerned about the cows,
25:21 who is sympathetic about the animals,
25:23 they're being stressed, they're having more infections,
25:26 but as far as the quality of milk,
25:28 I mean, is that going to change?
25:29 Absolutely, one hundred percent. I think the diseases
25:32 are being transmitted to the
25:34 cattle through these meat scraps.
25:36 Also, the utters are being stretched
25:38 which causes them to be prone to mastitis
25:40 so you're going to be getting possibly bacteria,
25:43 you're going to get antibiotic residues in the milk itself.
25:47 Okay, I think I'm seeing the connection, so in other words,
25:50 the cattle have this infection of the milk producing apparatus,
25:53 they'er getting more
25:55 antibiotics to treat the infection
25:56 and then those antibiotic residues end up in
25:58 the milk that the milk drinkers are consuming.
26:01 Absolutely and that's just the beginning of it.
26:03 There's other diseases too that are being now transmitted.
26:06 Seventy-five percent of the dairy herds today
26:09 have something called the bovine leukemia virus.
26:13 It's a very high rate. Twenty-five percent of all
26:16 cattle across the boards are carrying this virus.
26:18 Only five percent of them develop leukemia or a
26:21 lymphoma but it's being passed into the milk.
26:24 So in other words there's this virus that the cows have,
26:27 it goes in the milk and are you saying that if I drink it,
26:30 I can actually get this virus?
26:31 There is a doctor in Berkeley, School of Public Health,
26:36 and she tested 256 individuals,
26:39 she studied they're blood, did antibody tests,
26:42 and 191, 74 percent of those people
26:45 had the bovine leukemia virus antibodies
26:48 so they were getting that virus from dairy products.
26:52 Now were these all patients that had leukemia themselves?
26:55 No, these are just carriers of the virus.
26:58 We know that because they're carrying the virus,
27:01 they more of a chance of getting that
27:03 leukemia started in their blood system.
27:06 So are you telling me that
27:07 there's evidence or at least suggestions
27:09 that this cow/leukemia virus might
27:11 increase a human's risk of leukemia?
27:13 We've seen leukemia double,
27:15 lymphoma double in the last fifty years.
27:18 As the cow gets more leukemia, so will people.
27:21 A lot of sobering thoughts. It really points
27:24 us back to that original diet in Genesis 1:29
27:27 when God gave Adam and Eve fruits,
27:29 grains, vegetables.
27:31 It's still the healthiest diet today,
27:33 not only because those plant products are loaded
27:35 with good things but it helps you avoid many
27:37 of those harmful things and animal products.
27:38 I'm Dr. David DeRose.
27:40 If you want more information, go to
27:50 Well friends, that's it for today.
27:52 Thank you for joining us.
27:53 Pick up the phone and give us a call at
28:03 May the Lord bless you.


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