Hi friends and welcome to
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another edition of NEWSTART Now.
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I'm really excited today,
and for those of you who may
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be suffering a little bit
from depression or anxiety,
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I would like you to pay
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particular
attention to this interview.
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In our studio we have Judith and
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we want to take
a look at when she
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first arrived and
you tell me if you
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see a difference
between then and now.
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The anxiety and depression have
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basically kept
me from living life.
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I spend most of my
time in front of the
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television or on the
computer, just playing games.
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I have not lived
life in a really,
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really long time.
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The depression has been with
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me for twenty years, minimum,
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and it's been a
lot of ups and downs
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but my coping
skills are not that good
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I have had several suicide
attempts and the fact that
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I'm alive today is a real
miracle and a testament to God.
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I'd like to see
myself become more mobile,
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to be better able to handle the
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stresses of life,
and to be happier.
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What I want from
the NEWSTART program
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is to live a life
that is worth living
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and a life that is
worth living for God
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and to be a
testament to His awesomeness.
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Amen. Well in
our studio, Judith,
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thank you so
much for joining us.
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Thank you for having me.
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Yes. Now I asked you earlier,
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do you see a
difference? I certainly do.
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And I know our viewers
are looking now and going,
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that isn't really
the same lady, is it?
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You tell us your experience.
What's happened here?
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It is the same person.
Although, I'm much happier
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inside and with a little bit
of a song in my heart so, yes.
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Praise God. -Yes. There's
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several different treatments
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here that I'm using to help me
to work through the depression
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and also to kind of shock
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my brain into a happier me.
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Well you told me
about one of your treatments
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and we've got to
share this with the guests.
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Don't try this at home,
by the way. I assure you,
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you may have a little
palpitations or something.
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Tell us what
happened in the hydro.
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I'm doing hot and
cold contrast baths
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and the hot
temperature is 114 degrees,
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and I stay in that
tub for three minutes,
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submerged up to my neck,
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and then I go
into the cold tub which
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is right beside
the hot tub and I go in
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as quickly as I can
because when I go in slow,
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it's harder to
get into the water
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so I'm in that one for one
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minute at 50
degrees. -50 degrees.
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We started out with
112 and 56 degrees and
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now we're kind of
putting them to more extremes.
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And what does that do for you?
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It helps my brain.
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I imagine with the seratonin,
and the neurons and I'm not
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exactly sure about the
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science behind
it but it's working.
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Whatever it is, it's working.
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Well, you know,
I've learned many, many
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many years ago that just a cold
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shower will pop
you out of a mood.
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Whether it'll pop
you out of depression,
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I'm not sure but I
know it can change moods.
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So -It's
invigorating, very invigorating.
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What else has happened
here that has helped you?
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You look different,
you're more radiant,
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you have a little glow
here. Tell us about that.
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I have been doing some walking,
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not a lot because
of my physical pain,
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but I have been mostly walking
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the hallways and
on the treadmill.
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I'm waiting for the
day to be walking outside,
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so -When the sun starts shining.
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When the sun starts shining
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and it's not pouring buckets.
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It's been
raining here quite a bit.
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It is. And the fact that it
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has been raining
and my mood is still up,
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that's a really good sign,
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Because usually
the weather affects me.
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Yes, it affects all
of us, to be honest.
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Now aside from the
hydro and the hot and cold,
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what else did you
like about being here?
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Spending time with
the chaplain, and the
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spiritual guidance that
she offers me and the lectures.
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I'm finding the
lectures very helpful,
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very enriching and it's
giving me hope for the future.
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You know, that's
such a wonderful word
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because that word just
kind of rings in my head
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because when my wife was
asked by Shelley Quinn on 3ABN,
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where this
program will be aired,
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she asked Cindy, she
said, well as Ron was
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going through all these
changes, what did you see?
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And she said you know,
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I saw for the
first time, he had hope.
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Yeah. -And you have just shared
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that and that's a powerful word.
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And I'd like you to rephrase
it once again so our viewers,
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there are people out there,
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you know, are
suffering from depression.
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They think it's
the end of the world.
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What hope can you give them?
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Before I came to Weimar,
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I went through a
very difficult period,
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for about two weeks and
I really did not think I
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was going to make it
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through that
pit and as a result,
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I was unable to eat and I
lost ten pounds before I came.
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And I'm actually looking towards
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another session here at Weimar.
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I feel like I need more time
to come up with a plan for my
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life because I really was not
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living life
before I came to Weimar.
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And I so want to
live life. I really do.
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Well, so now you're staying
for two sessions. -Yes I am.
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I know that
cause I was involved in
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getting you here
for a second session.
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Do you think
that it's absolutely
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necessary for
everyone to have two sessions?
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I don't know that
everybody needs it but I have
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been in such a dark
place for such a long time.
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I mean when you
think twenty years
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of being
depressed and not really
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knowing how to
turn that around I feel
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like I need more
guidance in that area.
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Yes. -What about the food?
Have you enjoyed the food here?
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I have enjoyed the food and
I eat to my heart's content.
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And it's okay. The doctors
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say that it's fine, right?
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Yes, and I'm losing weight
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regardless of how much I eat.
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Have you lost any
inches, you think?
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I haven't tried that one
yet, we haven't looked at that.
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We'll probably
look at that at the
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end of next
session. -Okay, good.
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Now, what about the other folks,
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the staff, that you
came in contact with?
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The nurses, the exercise
therapists, the dietician.
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Did you have any
positive results there?
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The staff has been,
just a real blessing.
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I have never seen an
unkind word come from them.
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I mean, they're always there
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encouraging you and
praying with you when you're
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having
difficulties and it's just so
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encouraging to know that
people are praying for you.
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And not just like
right with you like when
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they meet in between
shifts and stuff like that,
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they're praying for
each of us, individually,
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and I know it's
working. I mean without prayer,
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I don't think I'd be as far
along as I am right now. -Amen.
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Praise God and Amen.
Thank God for the people and
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those of us who are
willing to be prayer warriors,
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and certainly
you can feel those,
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maybe feeling is not the
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right word but you're
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witnessing this
change in yourself.
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I am, I am. -So do
you feel confident now,
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after being here 17 days,
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that you've learned a new
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lifestyle that you can stick to?
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I have learned a new lifestyle.
My biggest challenge now
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is putting that lifestyle into
practice when I leave Weimar.
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It's easy when
the structure is here
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in front of you
but when you go home,
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it's a different story and it's
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going to take a lot of prayer.
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Well, I want to add a
little encouragement to you.
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I left Weimar, August of '05,
at the end of an 18 day program.
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My wife and I went
home and we were off campus
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here for about three
years before we returned.
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We were totally vegan and
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still staying on the program.
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So I want you to know
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that you can do that. -Yes.
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After this next 18 days, I'm
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positive you're going
to be able to do that.
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So we've run out of time.
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I want to thank
you for being here.
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Thank you. -We're going
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to be talking with Dr.
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Ing in just a
moment. Thank you so much.
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Thank you so much, Ron.
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And thank you,
folks. Don't go away. Dr.
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Ing is going to be
with us right after this.
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Well you've done very well.
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Do you have
diabetes, heart disease,
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high blood pressure
or do you weigh too much?
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Hi, my name is Dr.
Ing and I'd like to tell
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you about our 18-day
NEWSTART Lifestyle program.
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It includes a
comprehensive medical evaluation
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with laboratory studies
and an exercise stress test,
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physician consultations,
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culinary school,
and an opportunity
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to walk on beautiful trails in
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the foothills of the Sierras.
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Your health is one of the most
important things that you have.
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Don't wait. Give us a call at
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Or visit our website
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Welcome back friends
and as I promised, Dr.
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Clarence Ing.
How are you Doctor?
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It's great to be here, Ron.
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It's good to see you.
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And it's particularly
good to see you and discuss.
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You know, you said before
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the program there's not a lot
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of numbers we can discuss
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as far as blood work and all.
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But don't you
think this lady, Judith,
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has made an
incredible turnaround here?
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Well, you know when you begin to
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follow the
principles of healthful
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living and eat
right and exercise
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and take time to
fellowship with God
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it has a profound impact
and influence on your life,
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Because, you know, with
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exercise we find
that exercise produces
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some natural endorphins and
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endorphins help
you to feel better.
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Yes. -And when
you eat the right type
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of food that even
makes a difference.
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But I know there's
people watching us and going,
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it can't be that simple.
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It just cannot be that
simple that you can come to the
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NEWSTART program and all of a
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sudden you're
miraculously cured.
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But I don't even want
to use that word, cured.
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You feel better and it's
real obvious to me on camera.
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You can see this
lady is just glowing.
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She's got this little
redness in her face now.
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Well it's really
true. You know there's this
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excellent article and this
was published in 1980 or '81.
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See that's an old
article but they verified
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something that we've
heard from otherwise.
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They had some people who
were primarily vegetarians
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and then they had
them eat some meat,
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fish, chicken and
it was animal protein.
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Then they went back
to their vegetarian diet.
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And the study was intially
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designed to see
what would happen to
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their blood pressure and their
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cholesterol and
triglycerides and so on.
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But someone along the way
got the bright idea of checking
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and seeing if this made a
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difference in the
individual's mood.
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So they checked
for factors like vigor,
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fatigue, you know,
anxiety, the negative parts.
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And it was interesting that
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when they were
on the plant eating
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phase compared with the meat
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eating phase that
vigor was much better,
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their energy level
was better, and anger,
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fatigue and anxiety were much
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higher during the
meat eating phase,
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than on the plant eating phase.
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Aggressiveness. -Yeah
that's very interesting.
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Especially when
we view that in line
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with what Ellen
White said about the
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differences in
temperament or mood when people
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eat meat compared to
when they don't eat meat.
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And it's true. And also
for parents who have children,
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I submit to the parents,
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if you want to
raise your children,
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It's going to be a lot
easier to raise them on a
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plant based diet than it is
on the standard American diet.
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All of our five
children were raised like that.
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They weren't angels.
They weren't perfect.
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But I would not want
to face the challenges
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if they were on the
standard American diet.
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I mean, it would've been much
more challenging, I'm certain.
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So if you want to
make your life alot
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simpler and alot
easier, eat a plant based diet.
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Now I don't want to present
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NEWSTART as a place
where people can come,
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And all of a sudden
they're going to be healed or
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feeling better if they're
in a state of depression.
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However, we have dealt
with folks in depression.
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I for one, was one
of them. I don't know if
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you recall but I was
depressed when I came here.
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I kind of hit it a
little bit, but I'm
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watching people who are
going through these changes,
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and yet we hear of stories of
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people who have
been to psychotherapists,
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psychologists, psychiatrists,
and can't get any help.
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Why is that? -You know,
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it's an interesting question.
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But the thing is,
you know, the way we
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think, has a profound
influence on how we feel.
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And what we choose to think
about makes a big difference.
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Now it's very true that we can't
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control the thoughts
that come into our mind,
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but out of the ones
that come into our mind,
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we can choose and select
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which ones we
want to think about.
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We can choose, for example,
if you look at a glass that's
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filled up to the midline,
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is it half full
or is it half empty?
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And does that
really make a difference?
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I think it makes a
profound difference
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whether you are a
pessimist or an optimist.
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So attitude has a great
deal to do with the healing
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process of someone who's
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suffering from
depression, anxiety, or?
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Are there others? -Well I
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definitely think
this has a big influence,
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and when people realize that,
if they understand that they can
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choose to think differently,
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I don't need to
be so pessimistic,
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and true, they
can't always put that into
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practice but the unique
thing about our program is
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that we can
then call upon God to
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help us to change
the way that we think.
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You know, we say
it's a transformation.
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So if I work
together with the Lord,
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I take some time to
talk to the Lord each day,
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He can change
the way that I think,
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my thought processes,
if I'm willing to change.
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Now, he can't change me
if i don't want to change.
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Yes. -If I'm
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happy being unhappy,
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you know, it's going to
continue to be that way.
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But the interesting
thing is that we get
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an opportunity to
talk to these people.
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They say, you know,
I never realized that.
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I didn't realize that
I did things like that,
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and I'm thinking of a
guest from a previous program,
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as we talked and
shared some of these things,
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he said, you know
that makes good sense
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and it does make a difference
and so then,the other important
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thing about
working with people is
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that we can ask
them to make choices.
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I don't say, well try to do this
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because if
people try to do this,
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I recognize that in most
cases they're going to fail.
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I said, you've got
to do more than try,
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you've got to make a choice,
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-Yes. -And once you make
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the choice then you talk
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to the one who can enable
you to carry out the choice,
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who empowers you
to carry out your
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choice and of
course that's God. -Amen.
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That's one of the big
fundamental differences
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between the NEWSTART
program and a secular program.
00:18:29.73\00:18:33.60
Secular programs
very carefully try
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not to involve a
higher power or God
00:18:37.67\00:18:41.42
but I know that all of
us need God and if we're
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willing to accept Him and let
Him come in and work with Him,
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marvelous things happen. -Amen.
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You used a word
there, Doc, that's come up
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for me in years past
and it's the word "try."
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What I've learned
in my life is that
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trying is another
word for not doing,
00:19:03.13\00:19:06.66
because when you try
you're not committed,
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you're not fully engaged,
00:19:10.46\00:19:12.54
and I'd like you
to talk to our viewers
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now about some of
the things they can do,
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because there's many
people that can't get here.
00:19:21.76\00:19:24.15
For whatever the reasons,
my heart goes out to you.
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However I implore
you, whatever you can do,
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get here to our
NEWSTART program ,
00:19:32.01\00:19:34.69
but I also know that the doctor
can give us some tips about what
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you can do right in your home
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so could you
address that for us?
00:19:41.67\00:19:44.12
Well, I think one of
the most important things
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they can do is have a
regular exercise program.
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So exercise, and can we call
00:19:50.33\00:19:53.12
that something other
than exercise for a moment?
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Activity. -Activity. Okay so
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Increase your activity level.
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Increase your activity
level, okay.That's number one.
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So if you're not doing
anything, you can start to move,
00:20:02.16\00:20:05.57
just getting up
and moving around,
00:20:05.58\00:20:07.72
doing more
walking around the home
00:20:07.73\00:20:09.84
even if we have people,
sometimes I have people who,
00:20:10.12\00:20:13.12
when they come to
NEWSTART, they can't
00:20:13.13\00:20:15.00
walk or stand up
for more than a minute.
00:20:15.01\00:20:17.57
I say, I'll take that minute,
00:20:17.72\00:20:19.60
but I want you to do
something for a minute,
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rest for five or ten minutes,
00:20:22.37\00:20:25.18
and then get up and do
something else for a minute,
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and you know
what if they do this,
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we call this interval training.
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Very rapidly within a
few weeks they can do much,
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much more and they have greater
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endurance and they
begin to feel better.
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We can see this
over and over again.
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So that's like a
piece of the puzzle.
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Now we have just
a little time left.
00:20:43.67\00:20:45.78
Give us another little piece.
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Well another part is
again making a choice
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about how you want to
think, choosing to be positive.
00:20:50.82\00:20:54.15
All of us have been hurt,
we've been taken advantage of,
00:20:54.75\00:20:58.21
but don't dwell
upon the negative,
00:20:58.22\00:21:00.27
dwell upon the positive.
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You know, "a merry heart
doeth good like a medicine."
00:21:01.69\00:21:04.09
You can choose to be
healthy. Why do you want
00:21:04.27\00:21:06.78
to choose to be sad
and gloomy all the time,
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cause that's going to
make you unhappy and feel bad.
00:21:09.31\00:21:12.21
Amen. Dr. Ing I want to
thank you for joining us.
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God Bless you and
your work here at Weimar.
00:21:16.10\00:21:18.33
And folks, thank you for
joining us. Don't go away
00:21:18.45\00:21:21.75
cause we have a tip for
you immediately following this.
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Welcome to NEWSTART at Home.
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Today we're speaking
about something that comes very
00:22:45.54\00:22:47.78
close to home for all of
us. It's our food choices.
00:22:47.79\00:22:51.69
Dr. Galen
Comstock, it's great to be on
00:22:51.72\00:22:53.87
the program with
you, to have you here.
00:22:53.88\00:22:56.09
You as a family
physician have a vested
00:22:56.24\00:22:59.18
interest in people
eating healthier diets.
00:22:59.19\00:23:02.27
Thank you, Dr.
DeRose. That's my hope is
00:23:02.39\00:23:04.45
that we can get
people to eat more healthy.
00:23:04.46\00:23:06.60
One of the challenges
though is, alot of times people,
00:23:06.75\00:23:10.00
as they hear us talking about
00:23:10.01\00:23:11.33
the benefits of
a vegetarian diet,
00:23:11.34\00:23:13.60
eating more
fruits and vegetables,
00:23:13.61\00:23:15.51
they say, yeah,
all these foods are so
00:23:15.52\00:23:17.15
healthy but to have some meat,
00:23:17.16\00:23:19.24
to have some dairy,
these aren't really bad
00:23:19.25\00:23:21.51
as long as I'm eating lots
of greens and other things.
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Is that the message
that we want to give?
00:23:24.64\00:23:27.00
You know, my thought on this and
00:23:27.27\00:23:29.30
as I've been
doing alot research,
00:23:29.31\00:23:31.33
is that because disease is
00:23:31.34\00:23:33.03
increasing so
much among animals,
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We need to be
getting a diet that's
00:23:35.15\00:23:37.54
basically plant-based
and no dairy products,
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no meat, no eggs, no
cheese, that kind of food.
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So you're saying to us,
00:23:43.72\00:23:45.12
as a physician,
that you believe the
00:23:45.13\00:23:47.15
healthiest diet is one that
00:23:47.16\00:23:48.63
excludes all of
these animal products?
00:23:48.64\00:23:50.72
Everything. -And why are
00:23:50.81\00:23:52.63
you so animate about this?
00:23:52.64\00:23:55.30
You know, if you
look at some of the data
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it's interesting that
the way they're bringing
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the cows to produce a
hundred pounds of milk
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when in nature they
produce ten pounds of milk,
00:24:02.76\00:24:05.39
and they do that by feeding
them high protein supplements
00:24:05.72\00:24:09.45
and alot of those high
protein supplements actually
00:24:09.46\00:24:11.81
have chicken manure in it.
It has chicken scraps in it.
00:24:11.82\00:24:14.42
They used to feed them
beef scraps and ruminant
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scraps back to the cows so
that they would produce more,
00:24:17.34\00:24:20.57
but as you know,
that caused something
00:24:20.60\00:24:22.75
called Mad Cow
Disease so now that's illegal
00:24:22.76\00:24:25.24
but they can still feed
the chickens beef scraps and
00:24:25.30\00:24:29.06
then the chickens are put
00:24:29.07\00:24:30.81
into the cow
protein supplements.
00:24:30.82\00:24:33.18
But the average person
is eating chicken anyway,
00:24:33.27\00:24:35.57
why should they care if the
cow is eating some chicken too?
00:24:35.58\00:24:38.45
Is there some health concern?
00:24:38.46\00:24:39.81
The stress is on
the utters of the cows
00:24:40.06\00:24:42.39
because they're
geared, they're programmed,
00:24:42.40\00:24:45.60
they're fed to produce
all this extra volume of
00:24:45.61\00:24:48.78
milk to make more
money for the dairy industry.
00:24:48.79\00:24:52.00
Well is that bad as far
00:24:52.09\00:24:53.24
as the health of the milk?
00:24:53.25\00:24:54.45
Well, what happens is when the
00:24:54.48\00:24:56.18
cow's utter is
stretched so drastically,
00:24:56.19\00:24:59.18
they become more
prone to mastitis.
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In fact, 79 percent are
more prone due to the fact
00:25:01.82\00:25:05.66
that they're being injected
by bovine growth hormones,
00:25:05.67\00:25:08.72
by the fact that they're getting
this extra protein in the diet,
00:25:08.73\00:25:12.87
and they're being
geared, so to speak,
00:25:13.03\00:25:15.84
to produce all
of this extra milk.
00:25:15.85\00:25:18.42
So I mean, I can see someone
00:25:18.43\00:25:20.00
who's concerned about the cows,
00:25:20.01\00:25:21.57
who is
sympathetic about the animals,
00:25:21.58\00:25:23.54
they're being stressed,
they're having more infections,
00:25:23.55\00:25:26.39
but as far as
the quality of milk,
00:25:26.48\00:25:28.03
I mean, is that going to change?
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Absolutely, one hundred
percent. I think the diseases
00:25:29.39\00:25:32.69
are being transmitted to the
00:25:32.70\00:25:34.42
cattle through
these meat scraps.
00:25:34.43\00:25:36.36
Also, the utters
are being stretched
00:25:36.42\00:25:38.54
which causes them
to be prone to mastitis
00:25:38.55\00:25:40.84
so you're going to be
getting possibly bacteria,
00:25:40.85\00:25:43.78
you're going to get antibiotic
residues in the milk itself.
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Okay, I think I'm seeing the
connection, so in other words,
00:25:47.45\00:25:50.57
the cattle have this infection
of the milk producing apparatus,
00:25:50.58\00:25:53.81
they'er getting more
00:25:53.82\00:25:54.84
antibiotics to
treat the infection
00:25:54.85\00:25:56.51
and then those
antibiotic residues end up in
00:25:56.54\00:25:58.72
the milk that the milk
drinkers are consuming.
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Absolutely and that's
just the beginning of it.
00:26:01.04\00:26:03.45
There's other diseases too
that are being now transmitted.
00:26:03.46\00:26:06.45
Seventy-five percent
of the dairy herds today
00:26:06.48\00:26:09.63
have something called
the bovine leukemia virus.
00:26:09.64\00:26:13.03
It's a very high rate.
Twenty-five percent of all
00:26:13.12\00:26:16.03
cattle across the
boards are carrying this virus.
00:26:16.04\00:26:18.75
Only five percent of
them develop leukemia or a
00:26:18.76\00:26:21.75
lymphoma but it's
being passed into the milk.
00:26:21.76\00:26:24.72
So in other words there's
this virus that the cows have,
00:26:24.73\00:26:27.39
it goes in the milk and are
you saying that if I drink it,
00:26:27.40\00:26:30.15
I can actually get this virus?
00:26:30.16\00:26:31.45
There is a doctor in Berkeley,
School of Public Health,
00:26:31.46\00:26:36.78
and she tested 256 individuals,
00:26:36.79\00:26:39.69
she studied they're
blood, did antibody tests,
00:26:39.70\00:26:42.48
and 191, 74
percent of those people
00:26:42.54\00:26:45.42
had the bovine
leukemia virus antibodies
00:26:45.43\00:26:48.57
so they were getting that
virus from dairy products.
00:26:48.60\00:26:52.03
Now were these all patients
that had leukemia themselves?
00:26:52.12\00:26:55.00
No, these are just
carriers of the virus.
00:26:55.03\00:26:57.15
We know that because
they're carrying the virus,
00:26:58.18\00:27:01.36
they more of a
chance of getting that
00:27:01.37\00:27:03.81
leukemia started
in their blood system.
00:27:03.82\00:27:06.39
So are you telling me that
00:27:06.51\00:27:07.72
there's evidence or
at least suggestions
00:27:07.73\00:27:09.45
that this
cow/leukemia virus might
00:27:09.46\00:27:11.81
increase a
human's risk of leukemia?
00:27:11.82\00:27:13.63
We've seen leukemia double,
00:27:13.64\00:27:15.36
lymphoma double in
the last fifty years.
00:27:15.37\00:27:17.72
As the cow gets more
leukemia, so will people.
00:27:18.12\00:27:21.36
A lot of sobering
thoughts. It really points
00:27:21.54\00:27:24.36
us back to that
original diet in Genesis 1:29
00:27:24.37\00:27:27.21
when God gave
Adam and Eve fruits,
00:27:27.30\00:27:29.84
grains, vegetables.
00:27:29.85\00:27:31.33
It's still the
healthiest diet today,
00:27:31.45\00:27:33.09
not only because those
plant products are loaded
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with good things but
it helps you avoid many
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of those harmful
things and animal products.
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I'm Dr. David DeRose.
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