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00:23 Hi friends and welcome to another edition of NEWSTART Now!
00:27 I have in our studio with us, Lorna Whyte. 00:31 All the way from Jamaica so you'll want to 00:33 watch this interview when she first arrived. 00:38 I'm one of those women who think we can do 00:40 four jobs perfectly. 00:42 We leave ourselves out of the equation so I now have 00:47 diabetes and hypertension 00:50 and the doctors think I might 00:52 have some arthritis in my right knee. 00:55 I'd love to be able to leave here 00:57 thinking I can go home and dance! 01:00 What I want mostly from the program is to lose some weight. 01:05 Tighten up the flabs. 01:09 I want to regularize my blood 01:11 sugar level because it's been erratic 01:14 and to be satisfied with a better diet. 01:19 More vegetarian along the route to vegan. 01:24 And my blood pressure. 01:29 Welcome back friends and in our studio, Lorna, 01:33 how are you dear? - I'm quite well thank you. 01:35 It's so good to see you again! 01:37 It's good to see you too. 01:38 Let's start with your 01:40 diabetes have you noticed any change? 01:42 Yes, I'm on much less insulin 01:45 and medication and my levels are much better. 01:50 So I'm pleased about that. - Good! 01:53 What about the high blood pressure? 01:55 It's still bouncing all over the place but it's improving. 02:00 And again I'm on less medication. 02:04 I really need to lose some pounds. 02:07 Some poundage! - Yes. 02:09 Have you lost some poundage? - No, I haven't! 02:13 But I think I've lost some inches! 02:15 Some inches! - Yeah. 02:17 Let me encourage you a little bit. 02:19 We had a lady here once, Dr. Lukens will tell you this, 02:23 Is he your doctor? - He's my doctor. 02:25 An absolutely wonderful person! - He's a wonderful man! 02:29 And we're going to be interviewing him next! 02:31 But we had a lady here who was his patient 02:35 and she didn't lose a pound but lost 02:38 4 dress sizes! - My word! 02:41 My word, is right. - Yeah, that's interesting. 02:44 So, you know you could do the same thing. 02:46 But you want to lose some poundage also. 02:48 I need to lose some pounds but the 02:50 important thing is that I'm on the road to recovery. 02:53 Yes you are! - Yes, I feel so much better 02:57 than when I got here! 02:58 Good and you look better too! 03:01 How'd they treat you here? - Wonderfully! 03:04 Everybody? - Everybody, even the cat! 03:07 Even the cat! 03:10 Dorothy's little cat! - Yes, even the cat. 03:12 The staff here is absolutely wonderful! 03:15 I almost don't want to go home! 03:17 Well you can stay another session. 03:19 I know I'm thinking about it! 03:21 You should! - Yeah, but my 03:22 daughter is coming to get me tonight! 03:24 Well, we can have her stay with you! 03:26 That's right! - That's right! 03:29 Well, what have you learned here 03:32 that you can take back to Jamaica 03:36 and share with your brothers and sisters there 03:40 to help them? 03:41 The value of eating well. 03:44 The value of eating well. 03:47 Not shoving junk down our throats. 03:52 And really going back to the bible 03:55 and eating as God wanted us to eat. 03:59 So, when you say going back to the bible 04:01 are you making reference to the diet that 04:04 God gave to Adam and Eve, - That's right! 04:07 and Daniel, - That's right! 04:10 So you're aware of these things? - That's right! 04:13 And it's right at our 04:14 finger tips - Exactly! 04:15 Yes. 04:17 So you're going to be sharing 04:18 that with your brothers and sisters? 04:20 I certainly will! 04:21 Are you going to be holding seminars at church? 04:22 I might, I'm gonna try. 04:25 Sometimes I do seminars 04:27 at churches for senior citizens. 04:29 So, I'm going to try and ease it in 04:32 because it's really valuable. 04:34 What'd you think of our cooking class? 04:37 They're wonderful you know. 04:39 They really are wonderful because it shows you 04:43 that you can make a proper meal 04:45 with simple things no fuss no muss 04:48 but really end up with a good meal 04:51 that is going to nourish your body. 04:54 And could anybody learn that? 04:56 Anybody! 04:57 Do they teach you that well? 04:59 I know Sally does a great job! 05:00 Sally is fabulous! - She's fabulous! 05:02 She's absolutely fabulous. - She's our cooking instructor 05:06 and has been for 25 years! 05:10 Yes, that's what she told me, she's a wonderful lady! 05:12 Yes, she is really a good Christian lady. 05:15 So you think anyone can learn from her? 05:17 I think so. - Okay. 05:20 Some of the things we'll have to adapt to our own environment. 05:23 But we can. It's very easy. 05:25 Well, like you don't need to cook 05:27 as much in Jamaica because it's already 05:30 so hot there, is that what you mean? 05:32 Right, so we can have cool meals. 05:34 And even Dr. Lukens showed us 05:37 some, maybe about 2 inch square sandwiches. 05:41 They're very easy to make, light on the stomach 05:44 and very nutritious. 05:46 Did Dr. Lukens show you how to fry the potatoes 05:49 and flip them in the pan! 05:51 Yes, he did, he did! 05:53 Yes, and he made us glorious soup! 05:56 He's good! - Yes he is! 05:59 So, what else did you like about the program? 06:03 The hydrotherapy and the message? 06:05 Well, yes because those really get some of the kinks 06:09 out of the muscles. 06:11 I think I liked the whole environment here. 06:14 It's almost designed 06:17 for healing, for peace, 06:20 it's like a bomb for the soul. 06:25 The exercise, Rich, again is wonderful 06:29 in really teaching us 06:32 about exercise and how to pace yourself. 06:35 The layout of the place here 06:39 with the facilities for walking and so on is wonderful! 06:43 It really is! 06:45 When you got here were you able to walk much? 06:47 No, I could probably walk 06:52 3 yards. - 3 yards! You're serious? 06:55 Before I had a back ache. 06:57 Really? - Yeah. 06:58 And how far are you walking now? 07:00 2 1/2 without pain. - 2 1/2 yards? 07:03 2 1/2 miles. - Oh, 2 1/2 miles! 07:05 Without the back ache. 07:07 So, no back ache, you're walking 2 1/2 miles, 07:12 and did I hear you right you said 3 yards when you arrived? 07:14 Yes. - Wow! 07:17 Now, what do you attribute that too? 07:22 Part of it might be the hydrotherapy. 07:25 I've really just been motivated to walk. 07:29 Wow, praise God! - Praise God indeed! 07:33 So, what did you like best about being here? 07:39 It's hard to say any one thing. 07:46 Maybe if I were honest I'd say the food. 07:50 The soups. 07:52 You are honest. - Oh, 07:53 they make some glorious soups! 07:54 Glorious soups! Wait until you have the soup tonight! 07:59 You're going to be pleasantly surprised! 08:01 Oh, I don't know! 08:03 Oh yes, it's the best I've ever had! 08:04 It is? - And I know 08:06 they're going to have it tonight! 08:08 At the graduation supper! 08:10 Yes they are! 08:11 I've been meaning to stop supper but I cannot give up the soups! 08:15 No, you don't need to! 08:18 I need to because I need to lose weight. 08:22 Just don't eat so much bread. 08:25 I haven't had hardly any bread at all. 08:26 And don't have any butter. 08:28 I hardly eat butter. - No fats. 08:31 Well, if I give up meat then that will follow. 08:37 Or the fried food. 08:39 What do you mean if you give up meat? 08:40 You've given up meat the last 17 days! 08:43 I know! 08:44 So you're not going to go back there are you? 08:46 Well, the way to hell is paved with good intentions. 08:52 I'm glad you said that. 08:55 But we have to remember that we have the knowledge 08:59 and the where with all. - Yes, that's important. 09:01 And God has given us the way we 09:06 just have to follow His instruction. 09:08 And you know the thing is if we buy a car 09:12 and the manufacturer says put diesel in it we put diesel. 09:17 If we accept that God is our creator or manufacturer, 09:23 and He says put such and such in your body, 09:27 why do we put other things in there? 09:30 We're funny creatures. - We're funny. 09:32 I can only say that so many of us, 09:35 myself included, 09:37 didn't know about the basic 09:40 nutritional diet that is in the 09:42 first book of the bible. - That's right! 09:45 God said to Adam and Eve, you can have any of this to eat 09:49 this will be meat for you. 09:51 Very early in the day He told 09:53 us what to do. - That's right! 09:55 So, we've got to follow his lead! 09:57 Can I hear an amen? 09:59 Amen my brother! - Alright my sister! 10:02 I'm so glad you came here and my 10:05 prayers are going to continue to be with you! 10:09 That God keep his hand on you and bless you 10:12 and for always. 10:15 God's blessings for you too. 10:18 Thank you, sister. 10:19 And thank you friends! Don't go away, 10:21 we have an important tip for you following this! 10:26 Well you've done very well. 10:34 Do you have diabetes, heart disease, 10:36 high blood pressure or do you weigh too much? 10:40 Hi, My name is Doctor Ing and I'd like to tell you about 10:43 our 18 day NEWSTART lifestyle program. 10:47 It includes a comprehensive medical evaluation 10:49 with laboratory studies and a exercise stress test, 10:52 physician consolations, 10:55 culinary school, 10:57 and an opportunity to walk on beautiful trails 11:00 in the foothills of the sierras. 11:04 Your health is one of the most important things that you have. 11:07 Don't wait. Give us a call or visit our website. 11:32 Welcome back friends and as I promised, 11:35 Dr. Lukens! 11:37 It's good to see you! It's always good to see you! 11:41 Every time I see you around campus 11:43 you always have a nice prayer for me 11:45 and we get to have fellowship and I like that! 11:49 It's wonderful even though it's short and you have some 11:51 exciting stuff that you've been telling me about too! 11:54 Oh yes, I do have some exciting stuff! 11:56 Should I share it? 11:57 Sure, absolutely! 11:59 Well at the end of our last Reversing Diabetes program, 12:02 of which I am the director, 12:04 I decided because of Dr. Lukens advice 12:08 to cut out all fat. I mean excess oils and fats, 12:13 every drop! - Every drop! 12:15 Just about. 12:16 That doesn't mean avocados. 12:19 No, avocados, oil, olives, 12:24 oil in the olives, and nuts is all good stuff! 12:29 But I cut out all the rest and I lost 12:33 7 more pounds! 12:35 You still look good. 12:36 Isn't that something? - Yeah. 12:38 Am I photogenic? 12:40 Oh, yeah! 12:43 Well I'm so blessed because along with that 12:46 my energy has been up, 12:48 I've been able to walk faster, 12:51 I'm on the treadmill, I'm on 12:53 the half mile loop, I feel better! 12:56 Well we knew you would. 12:58 And esselstyn would've said, man you're right on. 13:02 Yes, and my next blood draw you're going to be proud of me 13:05 I know my numbers are going to come way down. 13:08 Well I'm already proud of you. - Well thank you. 13:10 So, lets get on with the interview. 13:12 Yes. - I think they're 13:13 recording this right now! 13:15 Oh, well that's great, you just testified! 13:18 To all the people! 13:19 Let's talk about Lorna! 13:21 Yeah, this is really exciting because 13:25 in her situation she comes all the way from Jamaica. 13:29 Jamaica man? 13:30 Yeah. 13:32 I had a little stone that they painted for me 13:35 and there were three ladies from Jamaica and it says, 13:40 from the ladies in Jamaica, no problem man! 13:44 You would say, how could anyone be sick in Jamaica? 13:47 They have the sunshine and all of that good stuff. 13:50 The thing is that their lifestyle isn't always the best. 13:54 As the days and the years progress 13:57 they're doing less exercise, they're eating more 14:00 of the refined foods. She told me 14:02 about how it was when she was a little kid 14:05 it wasn't like this. But anyway, here she comes in 14:09 and she was overweight 14:11 she was over 200 pounds but not very much. 14:14 Now she's just under 200 pounds and she was 14:16 disappointed that she didn't lose a lot of weight. 14:19 But she admitted that her clothes are looser now. 14:21 And you told her that does happen sometimes. 14:25 That lady that lost the four dress sizes 14:28 she was here when it was a four week session 14:31 but we still have people that do that. 14:34 Last session we had a 73 year old that lost 14:38 3 inches around the girth. 14:39 And his nephew, we talked about them, 14:43 his nephew lost 4 inches around the girth. 14:46 And they were up to doing 10 miles a day 14:48 but everybody knows how wonderful exercise is. 14:51 But the thing we want to look at here 14:53 is that this lady didn't have the clues, 14:57 tools, or the knowledge 15:00 and as the bible says, where there is no vision 15:04 then there is failure. 15:06 Yes. - And so 15:07 she didn't have that but now she understands it. 15:11 She came in on a full replacement of insulin 15:17 and her fasting blood sugar 15:19 was 181. 15:21 Then she was on another medication 15:24 that most people are on which is the metformin 15:27 which keeps your liver from dumping out sugar 15:31 and slows down the absorption of sugar. 15:34 So, the numbers look better, 15:35 and there were two that I didn't even know what they were. 15:38 Because they were brand names 15:40 from Jamaica so we found out that 15:42 that one of them was a Sulfonylurea 15:45 which keeps whipping the pancreas until finally the 15:48 pancrease gives out. 15:49 "That's enough stop!" 15:51 The the last one was actos which is one of the newer ones 15:55 and so we got her off 3 of those and left her on the actos 16:02 the diabetologists say now that that's the one that 16:05 is probably the safest. She was on 4 medications 16:09 for her blood pressure. 16:10 One of them was one of the new ones like 16:14 the one that helps the kidney 16:17 it doesn't help the kidney but - It protects the kidney. 16:20 it protects the kidney and it does somewhat 16:23 but it tells the kidney, 16:24 you need more blood pressure? Shut up. 16:27 You see? 16:29 It keeps the kidney from 16:30 sending that strong message up there. 16:33 We're suffering down here. 16:34 But it was also doubled up with a diuretic 16:39 so when I get her blood work back I see that her 16:43 potassium is pretty low. 16:45 In fact it could've been dangerously low. 16:48 So when I found out what it was 16:50 we took her off of that one and 16:52 her potassium is normal on the second draw. 16:56 We also took her off the beta blocker 17:01 we got it from 17:04 100, it was Atenolol which keeps the 17:08 heart from beating stronger and faster. 17:11 Sometimes the people feel a little lethargic 17:13 because their pulse goes down below 60 sometimes 17:16 into the 50's and they feel kind of draggy on that. 17:19 So I said, let's try it, 17:21 so I took her off of that one 17:22 but her blood pressure went back up to 17:25 what it was when she came in and we had gotten it down lower. 17:29 Yeah, but this was without all those medications! 17:31 Yeah! 17:33 But then her pulse was 17:35 running a bit higher so we put her back on that 17:39 and when she loses the weight 17:42 she will continue to have the diabetes under control, 17:46 the blood pressure under control, 17:48 and she's just turned her life around. 17:50 She asked, what am I going to tell my doctors when they 17:53 see all this stuff? They're trying to protect my eyes. 17:56 I said, Lorna look, 17:59 they may want your A1C's down in the seller 18:02 but when you do that with all the insulin 18:05 you're not going to be able to lose weight. 18:07 So now you've got a dilemma here. 18:09 You've got your A1C at a good area, 18:13 you've still got all your weight, 18:14 you're still a diabetic 18:16 and so now you haven't corrected the original problem 18:19 and your eyes are still going to 18:20 suffer from your diabetic retinopothy 18:23 because you couldn't get your weight off 18:26 you couldn't get out from under the diabetes symptoms. 18:29 And she said, that's right. 18:32 She wants to do this and we got 18:34 to follow up and keep her doing it. 18:36 So with her being able to get off of 18:38 these medicines especially the insulin 18:42 and get good blood sugars 18:44 and walk away from the diabetes, literally, 18:47 walk away from diabetes then when she goes in to see 18:51 her doctor even if it isn't as low 18:55 she doesn't have diabetes anymore 18:57 and her eyes will have a 18:58 chance to do as well as they can. 19:00 That's what people don't understand. 19:02 Now you've taken her off of 3 diabetes medications? 19:06 3 diabetes medications and 3 blood pressure medications. 19:11 Do we often times have the doctors 19:14 of these guests call you and 19:16 ask you questions? 19:18 I've got one that I've got to call back now in fact we 19:21 interviewed her, she's back in New 19:24 York and she was dying when she came. 19:28 She had the cancer remember 19:30 after 20 years it came back again. 19:32 Yes, I do remember. 19:33 She was so sick she couldn't stand up, 19:36 she was throwing up, I didn't know what was going on, 19:39 and it was a family practitioner. 19:41 We know that if you give them a 19:42 theraputic holiday maybe they will get better 19:44 and after several days she was up and about 19:48 to do all these things and so he wants to know 19:51 why she has gotten off of all these medicines 19:54 but she's so much better she wont go back on them. 19:56 Yes, praise God! 19:58 Do you feel confident that Lorna has 20:02 the where with all to continue on 20:04 this journey? - You know that's why 20:05 we've got to follow up with her but 20:07 she will keep sending us that calender 20:11 and we can just keep coaching her 20:14 it's not going to be that easy but 20:16 as we keep doing that she's 20:18 going to remember what she did here. 20:20 That's pretty dramatic 20:21 fasting while on all of her medications 20:24 was 180 20:25 while having the next one at 101. 20:28 And 101 on one medication. 20:31 Yes. - Exactly. 20:32 And then we've taken her off of most 20:34 of the high blood pressure medications? 20:36 Yeah, and we put her back on the one to slow her heart down. 20:39 So when she loses the weight she'll be off of that one too. 20:43 Praise God! - It's wonderful! 20:45 It is wonderful! - Everybody should do it! 20:47 Yes! 20:48 Well Dr. Lukens I want to 20:50 thank you for coming on the program 20:52 and enlightening us with your wisdom and kindness. 20:56 Well the main thing is the Great Physician 20:59 is the one that wants us to do these things. 21:01 That's right and we look to Him for all things! 21:04 And thank you friends but don't go away, 21:08 we have a tip for you right after this! 21:11 Hello, I'm Dr. David DeRose. 21:14 You know helping a friend, 21:15 neighbor, or relative have better 21:17 health is one of the most practical 21:19 forms of health ministry available. 21:21 However if you're not a health professional 21:23 it can be extremely difficult to know 21:25 how to help someone access reliable, 21:27 credible, up to date health information. 21:30 That's why I recommend the NEWSTART Lifestyle Club. 21:34 The Club is based on the world famous NEWSTART principles that 21:37 have helped millions be well 21:39 naturally without the use of drugs. 21:41 The Club offers streaming video, 21:43 expert health advice, wellness tips, tools, and more! 21:46 And when it comes to ministry the NEWSTART 21:49 Lifestyle Club provides a way for sponsor 21:51 churches and health organizations to connect 21:53 with club members in their own communities. 21:56 If you'd like to learn more about how the NEWSTART 21:59 Lifestyle Club can make a 22:00 difference in your health outreach, call 22:06 and ask for your free copy of health evangelism made simple. 22:28 Hello and welcome to NEWSTART At Home. 22:29 I'm your host, Don Mackintosh we're glad you're with us. 22:32 And we're also glad that we have Dr. 22:34 Doug Plata with us today. Welcome doctor! 22:36 I appreciate it! 22:38 You are a specialist in family 22:40 practice but also preventive medicine? 22:41 That's right. 22:43 And as we were talking you said one of the most important 22:45 things for people to do is have a consistant exercise program. 22:49 Why is that, how can we get it started, 22:51 how can we make it stick? 22:52 Well, there's so many benefits to exercise, 22:55 it's one of the most 22:56 powerful medicines that we have. 22:58 And it's important for heart health and 23:01 so many different things, even depression. 23:03 So, and the other questions were? 23:05 How do we get it started and how do we make it stick? 23:08 I think with most people 23:10 it's common sense we all need to exercise on a regular basis. 23:14 Especially your aerobic exercise, walking, 23:16 running, cycling, these sorts of things. 23:20 Well how to get started, 23:23 what I would recommend is for people to try 23:26 to find something they're going to stick with. 23:29 And for me that is something I find enjoyable. 23:32 There's nothing like, 23:33 oh I have to get up and I have to 23:35 walk or jog or something like this. 23:36 And if you don't like doing that it's going to be difficult 23:38 to really keep doing that 23:40 month after month, year after year, 23:42 like we need to do. So, 23:44 what I recommend is make it enjoyable 23:48 so it's something you look forward to. 23:51 What do you personally look forward to in terms of exercise? 23:54 Well I found it and for me it's cycling. 23:58 Now, being in preventive medecine I actually 24:00 looked in the literature and asked, how safe is this? 24:03 And unfortunately cycling is not one of the safest 24:05 things but for me it's one of the most enjoyable. 24:08 So I did buy a bicycle 24:10 and I got a route on the street that is safe 24:15 very little traffic. 24:17 When I cycle I'm very cautious about it because 24:19 I'm out there to get exercise and for my health 24:22 and obviously an injury is not at all healthful. 24:25 Right, so walking? 24:27 Walking is one of the best if it's something you enjoy doing. 24:32 Walking is relatively safe. 24:34 It's not pounding, it's not damaging to the knees. 24:38 And it's something anybody can do. 24:40 What do you need to walk? You need a pair of shoes. 24:44 And a safe place. 24:47 My problem, just a little confession here, 24:49 is when I was growing up 24:51 most of my exercise was 24:53 related to sports or activities where 24:56 there were other people involved. 24:57 Right. 24:58 And then we you get to a certain 25:00 stage in life sometimes you don't have, 25:03 I'm not saying I don't have friends, 25:05 but you don't have that same setup. 25:07 Right. 25:08 So what would you say to people like me? 25:12 Like you, sure. 25:14 I think the social dimension to exercise 25:17 can be very important as a motivating factor. 25:20 If you know that somebody is 25:22 expecting to meet you at 8 in the morning 25:24 are you going to get out of bed and go? Yes you will. 25:27 Whereas if you don't have an exercise partner. 25:29 So with a good friend you can have 25:32 a lot of fun talking with them and 25:34 I think that's a very important thing. 25:36 Studies actually show if you have an exercise partner 25:38 you're more likely to be consistant with that exercise. 25:41 What about a dog? 25:42 I was going to mention a dog. 25:45 A dog is great, I think it's also a wonderful thing 25:49 and dogs need to be walked so you feel an 25:52 obligation to make sure you walk the dog. 25:55 That's right. 25:56 Just be careful. I used to jog with a dog and it would 25:59 like to run into me and of course that was very dangerous. 26:02 Yeah, I remember working in the ER once and this lady had a huge 26:06 great dane 26:10 and I would say make sure you have a short leash. 26:13 This dog had a big long leash and the 26:15 lady didn't see the dog start to run 26:18 and when she turned around it had 26:19 already built up steam and 26:22 she actually fell over and it drug her down the road. 26:25 Who's walking who? 26:26 Exactly, and it's not funny at all she was really injured. 26:29 So just be careful with dogs. 26:31 So, start it and then stick with it 26:34 with the social things and maybe a pet. 26:37 Anything else? 26:38 Yeah, let me mention something about safety. 26:41 And that is that some people live in a 26:44 neighborhood where maybe they don't feel safe 26:47 walking around the neighborhood. 26:49 And in that sort of situation if you're 26:51 walking with a partner you'll feel safer. 26:54 But often times at malls there's 26:58 walking groups that you can find out about. 27:02 And if it's raining or something like that again, 27:07 malls are a good place to go. 27:08 Pools, swimming? 27:09 Swimming pools, another good form of exercise, 27:12 not so good in building up strong 27:13 bones but aerobically very good. 27:16 We've been talking to Dr. Doug Plata about exercise. 27:19 You need to start and stick with it. 27:22 And we have some very 27:23 practical ideas on how to do that now. 27:25 Thank you for joining us at NEWSTART 27:26 At Home but get out of your home and 27:28 exercise today! 27:30 And thank you doctor for being with us. 27:32 You can find more information 27:33 about this and other subjects at: 27:38 Tell your friends about it and we're glad you joined us today. 27:48 Well friends that's it for today! 27:50 My prayer is that before it's too late 27:52 you pick up that phone and give me a call at: 28:03 and ask for Ron! |
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