Hi friends and welcome to
another edition of NEWSTART Now!
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In our studio we
have Jim Lorenz with us.
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Jim came to us about 17 days ago
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looking for some
help with his condition.
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And we want to take a look
at Jim when he first arrived.
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I've had cancer
for the last 4 years.
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I've had conventional
therapy, surgery, radiation,
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a lot of chemotherapy
and finally in the last month
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my oncologist said there
was nothing more he could do.
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And so we went to Stanford
and did a follow up with them
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and the oncologist there
was even more direct, she said,
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you're lucky to have lived
this long with your diagnosis.
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Go home and
enjoy the remaintaining
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time you have
and get ready to die.
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I hope to see
continued improvement.
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I think even in just these two
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days I feel a little bit better.
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I've had some
pain from the cancer
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but even in these two days
I think it's a little better.
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Now that might be in
my head, I don't know.
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But I would like
to see that improve
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and I'd like to see
a more vital person.
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And to get around
and just feel better
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and to maintain
this once we leave here.
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Welcome back friends
and in our studio, Dr.
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Jim Lorenz! How are you sir?
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Fine, thank you.
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It's good to see you
- It's good to be here.
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I want to get right
into your experience here
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because I expect a
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different
interview with a doctor.
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Your practice was with
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family medicine?
- That's correct.
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In Turlock, CA? - Yes.
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From your professional
opinion, how are we doing?
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Good! It's been a good
two and a half weeks here.
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Could you tell us what
specifically you came here for?
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I mean we heard you in
your first interview but
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there must be a reason you had,
something you needed to learn,
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to cause you to come here.
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Yes because the diagnosis of
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cancer had gotten
to the point where
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they thought there was
nothing more they could do.
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And someone had suggested
Weimar so we looked into it and
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came and talked with them
and it made more and more sense
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that a vegan lifestyle would
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be potentially
helpful for cancer treatment.
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And it really has been an
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educational process
for my wife and myself.
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I feel stronger
having been here and
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the information has
been really valuable.
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We're anxious
to go on from here.
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We've made a
lifestyle change in several ways
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and we're hopeful now.
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Now tell our viewers what you're
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thinking about having
made this lifestyle change
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are you 80 or 90 percent raw are
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you going to go
in that direction?
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I'm not 80 or
90 percent raw yet.
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Probably 60 percent.
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But I liked
vegetables and fruit already so
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I don't think it'll
be a big change for us.
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But we plan to
work in that direction.
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What I mean by raw
of course is raw foods.
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We know that cancers can't
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live on broccoli - Right!
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But they love
stakes! - That's right!
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And fish! So, you've
decided to become vegan
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and your purpose and reason
for being here is to learn about
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being vegan,
living the lifestyle,
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learning the laws of health,
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which you already knew to
some degree being a doctor.
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Sure.
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Not as much
about the nutritional
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aspect as I
would've liked to have known.
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But this has been very
instructive here and for
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instance I have always liked
milk and I find out that that
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has something in
it that's not good
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for us either. It
encourages cancer.
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So there are
cancer patients out there
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that need to hear
your testimony because
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some of them
have run out of time.
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Some of them are giving up.
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What can you say to
that person who's giving up?
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I would say don't give up!
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I think that this is
something we should have
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looked at early on
in our cancer treatment.
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To make a lifestyle
change and become a vegan.
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And I think it makes
sense from a medical standpoint
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and certainly from a
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spiritual
standpoint too. But I think
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the entire lifestyle, the food,
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the vegan diet, and
the exercise emphasis
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is really essential and
I think that people need
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to do that early on in
their treatment for cancer.
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But it's never too late.
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No, I would
encourage anyone to come.
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I think you can feel better and
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stronger and I
think when we do that
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it gives us better
chances of longevity.
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And if not longevity at least
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better quality
than what we have.
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What did you like the most
about the NEWSTART program?
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Well, I think that
when people come here
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they have some
apprehension about the food.
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I didn't have any and I
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know you didn't - Okay.
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I really have to say we didn't
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have any meals
that weren't good.
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At all the meals the food
has been really amazingly good.
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We've enjoyed that and a
re-emphasis on exercise too.
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And then the spiritual
component. I think those
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three things together
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strengthen a
person in a totality.
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What about the spiritual aspect?
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We have that everyday
and it was encouraged.
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I appreciate from
the staff standpoint that
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universally these are
kind and spiritual people.
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And that comes through
in their presentations.
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They often have prayer before
lectures and before your visits.
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And that is a comforting thing
as well as a beneficial thing
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because I think God can do
things for us that we can't do.
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Amen.
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We know that and witness that
every month in each session.
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I want to ask
you about food again.
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Were you vegetarian or near
vegetarian before you came here?
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I wasn't vegetarian but we
ate a primarily meatless diet.
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But we ate some meat.
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But quite a lot of
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lacto-ovo
vegetarianism primarily.
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We still used milk
and eggs quite a lot.
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So you're going back home
and you're going to be a vegan.
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Is your spouse going to be?
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Do you have a
spouse? I'm not sure.
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Yes, she came with
me during the week.
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Right, okay.
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And it's a big
help because my learning
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curve with cooking is
much bigger than her's.
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So it's going to
be a big help to me.
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Well Jim, if
you're stalling there
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in the kitchen
just grab a carrot.
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Okay, that's good advice!
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I'm glad I don't do much cooking
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these days but I
can if necessary.
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So, we've talked about
the cooking and the exercise.
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What about the hydrotherapy?
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Do you feel like that
had an effect on your body?
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I think it can. I haven't
noticed a marked change yet.
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But I expect to see
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something in the
future with that.
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I had what we call a
fever treatment which raises
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the body temprature for
a certain period of time
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and I hope to continue doing
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something similar
to that as I go home.
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I think that
should help as we have
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a multipronged
attack on the cancer.
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Good. Now your doctor is?
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Dr. Ing. - Dr. Ing.
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And will you be staying in
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contact with Dr.
Ing? - Yes we will.
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Will he be working in
tandem with your present doctor,
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or how is that going to work?
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We didn't so
much talk about that
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but I would hope
that'd be the case.
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My oncologist said
before I came that he
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was anxious to see what
would transpire here too.
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So we will keep him informed and
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maybe the two can
discuss my case as well.
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Now tonight is graduation.
We have a graduation dinner,
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will your wife be
joining you tonight?
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Yes, she will.
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And then you'll drive
home together tonight,
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or tomorrow morning?
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Tomorrow. - Okay.
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We have about a minute left
is there something you can say
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to perhaps
encourage or inspire someone
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who is really at
the end of their rope?
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Well I know the
diagnosis of cancer
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usually creates
feelings of death and finality
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but I would
encourage you to not give up.
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There are things we can do to
improve the quality of our life
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and hopefully to
extend our life as well.
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And I look at it not only in
my own personal life but also
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for my wife,
kids, and grandkids.
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But certainly don't give
up. There are things that
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can be done just make
yourself available to them.
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Jim, thank you
for being on our show.
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Well thank you.
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God bless you and
stay in touch for sure!
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And folks, thank you,
but don't go away we're
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going to be talking with
Dr. Ing right after this!
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Well you've done very well.
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Do you have
diabetes, heart disease,
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high blood pressure
or do you weigh too much?
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Hi, My name is Doctor Ing
and I'd like to tell you about
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our 18 day
NEWSTART lifestyle program.
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It includes a
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with laboratory studies
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culinary school,
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Welcome back
friends! In our studio, Dr.
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Ing, how are you sir?
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It's great to see you,
Ron! - It's good to see you!
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I want to get right
into speaking to our
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viewers about this
"C" word. The big "C"
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Could you begin by telling us,
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Jim tells us
he's feeling better,
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how could he be feeling better
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in two weeks
while having cancer?
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Well a large part of
the way you feel is your
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outlook on life and
that's really important.
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With a positive attitude
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things are going
to go a lot better.
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I was just reading something
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in a familiar
text, Proverbs 17:22.
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It says a merry heart
doeth good like a medicine.
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The good news is,
the bible said it a
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little bit
differently but the thought is,
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why do you want to
be sad and die slowly?
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In other words why
not choose to be happy?
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So no matter
what happens to you,
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no matter what adversity,
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challenge, or
opportunity you face
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with a positive
outlook things go a lot better.
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So that is really important.
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I know there's
viewers out there that
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have cancer and are
watching us right now.
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What can we say to
them to give them some hope?
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Well I think one
of the things that's
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important for anyone
who's facing cancer is
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you really need to be on the
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best diet you
can possibly be on.
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And from the
study of nutrition and
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what the bible says
man's original diet,
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a plant based diet,
is really the best diet.
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The medical
evidence shows that those
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who eat a
completely plant based diet
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have much less
cancer, heart diease,
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diabetes, high blood
pressure, and strokes
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than those on the
standard american diet.
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By the way the acronym for
stand american diet is S.A.D.
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That's something people
don't recognise but it's true.
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Going back to man's original
diet is a great place to start.
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I think that if people would
revert to this diet as soon
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as they find out they have
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cancer if they
haven't been on it
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that would give them their best
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chances for
survival and overcoming.
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Is there any truth in
what I read from The China
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Study that a raw food
diet, maybe 80 or 90 percent raw
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can ward off and possibly
even reverse some cancers?
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Well, I think that the
evidence shows that people who
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have been on an entirely
plant based diet all their life
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I don't think we can say
they'll never get cancer.
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But their odds of getting
cancer are far, far, lower.
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Not only will they be able to
avoid cancer but heart disease,
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high blood pressure, diabetes,
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and strokes go
along the same way.
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There was an editorial in the
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Journal of the
American Medical Association
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about 49 1/2 years ago.
It was September of 1961.
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It said with a
vegetarian diet 97
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percent of heart
attacks could be avoided.
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That would be awesome!
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Now I know the
hospitals and the heart
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surgeons and cardiologists
might not be so happy but
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I think our
country would be happy
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because we would
save loads of money!
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Billions and billions. - Yes!
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The evidence is
there. There have been many
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different groups who
have verified this, Dr.
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Caldwell Esselstyn who will be
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one of our
speakers for alumni week.
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That's coming up this June,
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here, in 2011. - That's right!
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Dr. Caldwell Esselstyn.
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Yes, he's going
to be talking here.
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Dr. Dean Ornish, who I
recently heard at the American
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College of Preventive
Medicine just a few weeks ago.
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And many other physicians are
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advocating the advantages
of a plant based diet.
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Not only for heart
disease but for many of the
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chronic diseases that
afflict the American people.
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And are most of these
diseases not lifestyle diseases?
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Absolutely! That's what's so
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exciting about this
meeting I just went to
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down in San Antonio, TX. It was
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an annual meeting for the
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American College of
Preventive Medicine.
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And finally people are
saying, for heart disease,
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diabetes and things,
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yes you can pass
out medicines that
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do things but the root of the
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problem is the
lifestyle of our population.
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I know people might take
this as a sales pitch but truly
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if you were to
come to our NEWSTART
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program or any
other NEWSTART program
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and just put in place the
basic principles that we teach
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many things that
are ailing people
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today can just
reverse and disappear
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as we've seen here.
- This is really true.
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I heard Dr. David Katzin,
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his approach was to
eat mostly of plants.
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Which I agree with but I go a
little bit farther to where Dr.
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Neal Barnard says and
eat totally of plants.
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What we say here
is whole plant foods.
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And Dr. Barnard's
approach to managing diabetes
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is very similar
to ours and of course
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he gets results
equally as good as ours.
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So it makes a
profound difference on people's
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health and their
quality and enjoyment of life.
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Another exciting
thing was just brought
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out as I was talking
to some of the people
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who came here and
their usual diet would be
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going out to McDonald's
and ordering something.
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One said, well when
I go home I'm going to
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have to do things a
little bit differently.
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He's been planning
about this and he said,
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I was really
surprised that while I
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was here I
didn't miss having meat.
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In other words,
they were amazed that a
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plant based diet
could taste this good!
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And that's true, it
not only can taste good,
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it's good for
you and you'll feel
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better when you
eat that type of food.
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Getting back to Jim,
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I know you've
counseled with him,
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you've visited together,
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he's a doctor he
had a family practice,
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he's a learened
man. Did he get it
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any faster than I
would, or anyone else?
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I don't know if
he got it and faster
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but he realised
the importance of it.
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And as we were
talking about diet and
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nutrition just today
I said, really for you
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a 100 percent plant based
diet is the way you want to go.
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As you've already emphasized
more raw foods is better.
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I usually tell the patients,
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eat as much raw food
as you're willing to eat
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and then take five bites more.
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All the many
types of vegetables you
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can eat raw like
all your salad greens,
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cucumbers, tomatoes,
raddishes and things like that.
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Califlour, broccoli, you can
even eat asparagus raw, corn.
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When they get used to doing this
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they're amazed that it
really does taste good.
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Taste's delicious! -
And it's good for you!
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And if you're
overweight, which Jim isn't,
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it makes it so
much easier to lose
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weight with that
type of approach.
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Now is there
anything specifically that
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you've advised him,
I know we touched on it
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but I know there are
other guests that come here
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that might have a chronic
disease that if they do this
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it'll go away but
for him when you hear
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that C word people
are sometimes afraid
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this means death,
it's the end of the road.
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But do we encourage
people to have that belief,
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or do we leave
them with hope that
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maybe it will
disappear or at least subside?
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That's a very good question.
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Healing comes from God.
The same one who forgives us,
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as it says in Psalms 103,
is the same one who heals us.
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It's interesting as we
read in the bible, Exodus 15:
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26 talks about
if the children of
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Israel would listen
to the voice of the Lord
00:20:16.07\00:20:18.84
and would follow his
commandments none of the
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diseases which afflicted the
Egyptians would come to them.
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The application in
our lives today is,
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if we will not live like the
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world if we will
follow the counsels
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of God as far as
health and activity,
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we can largely avoid
all of these problems.
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And if we haven't
been doing that and we
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should become
afflicted with those diseases
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reverting back to
that diet and lifestyle,
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adequate rest, good
plant based nutrition,
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water, avoiding
coffee, tea, tobacco,
00:20:54.39\00:20:56.87
alchohol and abiding
faith and trust in God.
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Then I think we can
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confidently call
upon God when we're
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obeying His guidlines, rules,
whatever you want to call them,
00:21:03.54\00:21:08.51
that we can call
upon Him and say,
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Lord if it's according to
your will that I be healed
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and restored to health and
strength I ask you for that.
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But I am willing to
accept your will for me.
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Amen.
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We've run out of time.
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I thank you for
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Welcome to NEWSTART AT HOME.
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I'm Dr. David DeRose, your host,
00:22:48.12\00:22:50.09
and with me today, Jerry Florres
00:22:50.24\00:22:52.18
therapist with the
NEWSTART Medical Clinic
00:22:52.42\00:22:55.24
here at Weimar Center
of Health and Education.
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Jerry, it's great to
have you with us again today.
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It's great to be here.
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Jerry you are
just doing exciting
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things I know in
the NEWSTART program
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because I've got
patients and they're telling me
00:23:05.06\00:23:07.15
the tremendous things
that are happening to them
00:23:07.30\00:23:09.48
through you, God's
blessing working through
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you and the other
members of the team there.
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Ah, low back pain
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is something that a
lot of my patients have
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and you guys there are doing
something that's helping it.
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Can you bring us up to speed?
Give us some take home pointers?
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Yes, I can. What I'm
going to demonstrate right now
00:23:25.06\00:23:28.00
is what I do here at
NEWSTART with our guests,
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and it's very
simple. Most people
00:23:31.33\00:23:33.57
have bad postural habits,
00:23:33.78\00:23:35.42
they don't exercise enough,
00:23:35.63\00:23:37.45
and even people that walk
a lot, they don't stretch.
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So therefore what happens
to our body is it tightens up.
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And what happens when
you get low back pain,
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one of the
things I notice most is
00:23:47.67\00:23:49.54
the psoas muscle, which is what
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I'm going to
demonstrate right now.
00:23:52.19\00:23:54.36
It is a muscle
that is connected,
00:23:54.87\00:23:57.03
in case you
didn't know, your legs
00:23:57.36\00:23:59.00
start right
below your twelfth rib,
00:23:59.01\00:24:00.51
right around here.
00:24:00.84\00:24:01.87
And it comes and it hooks onto
00:24:02.39\00:24:05.06
joint of your leg, and it helps
00:24:05.24\00:24:07.06
your leg with
moving it like this.
00:24:07.07\00:24:08.87
But when you sit
down, they shorten
00:24:09.87\00:24:12.36
and tighten.
00:24:12.63\00:24:13.75
Then they take your pelvis
00:24:13.76\00:24:15.60
out of balance as they shorten,
00:24:15.87\00:24:17.60
and it takes the
pelvis out of balance.
00:24:17.78\00:24:19.48
And what happens then
00:24:19.60\00:24:21.33
is ischemic
tissue starts to develop,
00:24:21.54\00:24:24.00
and you all of a sudden get
this pain that you can't bear.
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You go to the doctor, and most
00:24:28.42\00:24:30.06
people don't know
what to do with it.
00:24:30.07\00:24:32.00
So it's the process of
the muscles tightening,
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not being flexible enough that
00:24:34.73\00:24:36.33
often sets the
stage for low back pain?
00:24:36.34\00:24:38.30
Yes, and what we do-- the key
00:24:38.48\00:24:40.75
to unlock these
muscle spasms that
00:24:41.33\00:24:44.15
are happening in
the lower back, is to
00:24:44.16\00:24:47.21
add heat, usually we do it
through an epsom salt bath.
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Ok. How do you
make an epsom salt bath?
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You take two cups of epsom salt,
00:24:54.30\00:24:56.36
which is available at most
grocery stores or pharmacies,
00:24:56.37\00:24:59.81
and you take two cups into water
that's about 100 to 104 degrees.
00:25:00.15\00:25:04.27
And you pour it in there
and you just lie there and relax
00:25:05.03\00:25:08.57
for about 12-- up to 30 minutes.
00:25:09.12\00:25:11.57
Then what we do here
00:25:12.39\00:25:14.42
is we include the massage,
00:25:14.63\00:25:16.72
which gets all the
00:25:17.06\00:25:18.42
muscles nice and lengthened.
00:25:18.87\00:25:20.72
We get the
00:25:21.18\00:25:22.33
the circulation optimally
going, flowing to the muscle,
00:25:22.78\00:25:26.03
and once that happens
00:25:26.48\00:25:27.72
you got this nice
lengthened muscle,
00:25:28.18\00:25:30.00
all the range of
motion, in most cases.
00:25:30.21\00:25:32.75
In some, it
takes several therapies
00:25:33.09\00:25:35.36
And then the lower back
pain dissipates once the pelvis
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and all the rest of the
muscles are nice and balanced.
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So is it true Jerry
00:25:42.30\00:25:44.06
that a lot of the problems
people have with their low
00:25:44.21\00:25:47.03
backs is because of
00:25:47.04\00:25:48.06
incorrect
postures and movements?
00:25:48.07\00:25:49.72
As a matter of fact
yes. As a matter of fact
00:25:50.78\00:25:52.84
most people go
multiple times to the doctor,
00:25:52.85\00:25:54.84
and up to 95 percent
of the time, even in MRIs
00:25:55.36\00:25:59.30
and in other
studies, like CAT Scans,
00:25:59.54\00:26:02.15
they can't find anything.
00:26:02.16\00:26:03.78
Therefore we find out that it's
00:26:04.24\00:26:06.51
muscles in spasm
that is causing that
00:26:06.52\00:26:09.21
terrible low back pain.
00:26:09.51\00:26:10.81
Ok, so try to
keep more flexible,
00:26:11.18\00:26:12.72
drink more water, that's
going to make a difference too?
00:26:12.73\00:26:15.36
Water again is the key.
00:26:15.54\00:26:17.36
You got to stay hydrated
00:26:17.51\00:26:19.03
because if the muscles
don't have enough water,
00:26:19.21\00:26:22.21
that means that they don't have
enough oxygen, that means that
00:26:22.66\00:26:26.12
it sends a signal to
your brain to tighten up.
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Ok, so you
provide them with that.
00:26:30.00\00:26:31.66
And not to mention that
00:26:32.21\00:26:33.84
sitting a lot in
the position we are in
00:26:34.06\00:26:36.87
shortens those muscles
00:26:37.18\00:26:38.51
therefore again taking
the pelvis out of balance
00:26:38.78\00:26:43.06
therefore creating that tissue
00:26:43.39\00:26:45.48
that doesn't have that
00:26:45.69\00:26:47.66
optimum blood
flow, therefore pain.
00:26:47.67\00:26:50.69
Is there a real quick stretch
you could demonstrate for us?
00:26:51.12\00:26:53.57
We're almost out
of time, but is there
00:26:53.58\00:26:55.21
some pointer that is often
missed in low back problems?
00:26:55.57\00:26:58.84
I show people, I do this
while they are lying down
00:26:59.09\00:27:02.69
and then I also teach them how
to do it and it's very simple.
00:27:03.00\00:27:06.60
Most people use this stretch
to stretch out their quadriceps
00:27:07.00\00:27:09.87
but what I do is I take it here
00:27:10.33\00:27:12.12
and I add a movement.
00:27:12.27\00:27:13.27
Remember I showed you
that muscle that goes from
00:27:13.51\00:27:15.75
the bottom of your rib,
00:27:15.87\00:27:17.09
attached to your
spine, your T 12,
00:27:17.69\00:27:20.00
and you bring it down
and you just go like this.
00:27:20.18\00:27:23.27
And you repeat this about...
00:27:24.03\00:27:25.60
30 seconds, and
you do about 3-4 sets,
00:27:26.24\00:27:29.57
and you do both
sides of the body.
00:27:29.87\00:27:31.60
therefore your muscles relax,
00:27:31.78\00:27:34.18
pain is dissipated.
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A lot of simple
things you can do at home
00:27:36.84\00:27:39.00
to prevent or
treat low back problems.
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If you've got questions get
a doctor's evaluation first.
00:27:41.63\00:27:44.30
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