Hi friends, and welcome to
another edition of NEWSTART Now.
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In our studio today, we
have Gudrun Olafsdaughter
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from Denmark.
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And rather than me talk about
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what was
happening when she got here,
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we're going to
watch a clip right now.
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I'm here because
I'm overly stressed
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And I need to regain
my energy and myself back.
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I want to walk with God,
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and I want God
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to intervene in my healing.
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Be a part of my healing because
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I know that if
He is a part of it
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It will last.
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What I want...
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The result of
being here at Weimar
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is I want balance in my life.
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I want balance
in my Spiritual life
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and in my body and soul.
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Welcome back
friends and in our studio is
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Gudrun, how are you
dear? -I'm fine, thank you.
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Good to see you.
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It's good to see you because
you have a smile on your face!
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Tell us about what has
happened since you've been here.
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Well, a lot of things have been
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happening since
I came to Weimar.
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The program is really good
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and we do a lot of
outdoor activities.
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And the staff is amazing
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and the doctors
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are highly qualified.
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Now you have Doctor...
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-DeRose -David DeRose
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He's a wonderful
doctor -Yes, he is.
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And we're going to
be interviewing him
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in just a little bit as well.
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But back to you...
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You say the staff is wonderful,
everyone is treating you good.
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What do you like
most about the program?
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Well...
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I feel like God is
leading this program.
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-So you got what
you came here for.
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You said you wanted
some Spiritual uplifting...
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...I forget your exact words.
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-Yes, and guidance.
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And what I feel
with the doctors here
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that they seek God's guidance
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in...
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defining people's problems.
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And I've been dealing
with stress for many years
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and also I...
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I believed I
had thyroid problems
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and I had been going to doctors
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both in Iceland,
where I come from
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and also in Denmark,
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for the past 30 years.
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-Wow.
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And they have not
been able to help me.
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-With the thyroid.
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Someone gave me a
prescription for hormones
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that I was lacking
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or didn't produce enough of.
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And I had been
taking this medicine
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for many years
without improvement.
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And it was getting so bad;
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you know for the past year
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I've gained a lot of weight.
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And I've gained
like 80 pounds total
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through the last 13 years.
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And, I felt like something
was pushing on my throat.
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So it was very
uncomfortable at times
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Because sometimes I felt it
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depended on if I was stressed
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or busy and things.
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For the last year
it has been increasing
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The doctors would say,
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"Your thyroid is
slightly enlarged"
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But it's not a problem.
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It's kind of out of shape.
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-So what has happened
with Dr. DeRose and you?
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Have you
identified this problem?
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He identified the
problem on my birthday.
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It was the best
birthday present ever!
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-Oh my goodness!
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And he saw that I have myxedema
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-Ah...
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And he is giving me
what I need to improve
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and I already can
feel a slight healing
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But it takes 2-3 months
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for the medicine to
peak in effectiveness.
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-Praise God! -Yes
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So that's wonderful news!
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-It has been a
long, long journey for me.
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30 years!
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And here you come to
the little town of Weimar,
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to the NEWSTART program,
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and Dr. David DeRose says,
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"Oh, well we can fix you there"
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But you know God
works in mysterious ways.
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-Yes, and with God's guidance.
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Yes, because doctors
before have been saying,
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"Ok you need this hormone"
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And others say,
"Well the thyroid is
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not that bad that I
would prescribe any medicine.
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But the thyroid is
very difficult to define
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If you have thyroid problems.
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Because the symptoms variate
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-That's right.
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Now what about weight?
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You said you
wanted to lose some weight
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because you gained 80 pounds.
Have you lost some weight here?
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I've lost a total of
9 pounds since I came.
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-Good.
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But there is a long way to go.
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And I know it
will come gradually
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Because the thyroid problem...
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it takes time. It takes time.
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Now what about any other
issues you were dealing with,
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have you resolved them?
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Yes. My blood
pressure has gone down.
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to an optimal level.
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-And your blood
pressure is now what?
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This morning it was 113/68
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-Well that's good!
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And were you taking
medication for blood pressure?
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No, not at all.
It was just going up,
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I believe because of stress.
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You know, when I
was stressed it went up.
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So...
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I just have to...
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Your body
automatically increases
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blood pressure
when under stress.
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So now it's
normalized completely.
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Any other issues?
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Yes, the stress issue.
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I need peace.
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Have you found peace here?
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Yes, I have found peace,
but I still need to work on it
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with prayer and God's help
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Praise God!
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Well you know this
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marvelous
discovery after 30 years
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is going to over
shadow almost everything else!
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-I think it's more than 30 years
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because I think it
started when I was a teenager.
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-Oh wow.
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So what did you like
most about the program?
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What part of the program--
aside from that discovery?
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I loved the hiking tours.
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-You liked the hiking
tours. -Yes, I loved them.
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We had a beautiful hiking tour
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out in the country.
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There were cows
there, there was a waterfall.
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And it was beautiful!
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And we had a picnic
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and God gave us the most
wonderful weather that day.
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That one day... It's been
raining and all of the sudden
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the picnic comes
and it stops raining.
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And you were out and I
think it was 65 or 70 degrees
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It was beautiful.
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It was a day to remember.
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So how about the
hydrotherapy did you like that?
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Yes, I did. That was very good.
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Actually this is
something I'm going to use
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when I go back home.
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When taking showers every day.
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What you mean is
use hot and cold. -Yes
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And what does that do for you?
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Well it
increases the blood stream.
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And also I can
do it on my thyroid
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to make it function better.
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-Yes.
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Well praise God!
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Um...
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The food.
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Have you had any problem...
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Were you
vegetarian when you came here?
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Yes, I was partly
vegetarian/vegan before I came.
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so this was not a
revelation for me.
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It was for me!
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It's for people who come
from a different environment.
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...a different lifestyle.
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Because, you know...
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Because I haven't been accepting
the way my body has been acting
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Then I have been trying
to find ways to heal it.
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Because if the doctors
can't help you, what do you do?
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You try yourself.
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Yours is such a
wonderful testimony.
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And I just want to give a
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comment to our viewers now.
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Here we have a lady that's
been dealing with an illness,
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No fault of anyone
that they couldn't find out
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You know God brought her here
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to the NEWSTART
program at Weimar
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And she came halfway
around the world to be here.
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And lo and behold
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Dr. David DeRose, He's
an internist by the way,
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discovered her problem.
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And I just want to
give that glory to God
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our Father who
has brought you here
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He truly has.
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And the many
people who have been
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praying for you
since you've been here,
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and will continue to pray
for you after you're gone.
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And I want to thank you for
being on our program with us.
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And thank you for your
testimony and God bless you.
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-Thank you.
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And thank you friends,
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but don't go away. We have
an important message for you.
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Well, you've done very well.
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Do you have diabetes,
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heart disease,
high blood pressure,
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or do you weigh too much?
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Hi, my name is Dr. Ing,
and I'd like to tell you
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about our 18-day
NEWSTART lifestyle program.
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It includes a
comprehensive medical
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evaluation with
laboratories and an
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exercise stress test,
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physician consultations,
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culinary school,
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and an opportunity
to walk on beautiful
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trails in the
foothills of the Sierras.
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Your health is one of the most
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important things
that you have. Don't wait.
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Give us a call.
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Or visit our website.
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Welcome back
friends and in our studio
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Dr. David DeRose
How are you doctor?
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-Good. Good to be with you Ron.
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-Good to see you!
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You know
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whenever I
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try or even attempt to
glorify the doctors here
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I know I'm put in
my place real quick.
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But I have to comment
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We have a lady who's
been all over the world
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receiving
treatment for over 30 years
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and she comes here.
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How is it that we
found this problem?
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Well, you know
you hear this story
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from different perspectives
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and I'll be honest with you
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really I think Gudrun hit
the nail on the head when she
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mentioned that God is
really at work--He's leading.
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And for those of my
friends who are physicians,
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sometimes it's not enough even
to make the correct diagnosis
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It's somehow
making that diagnosis
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in the context of
someone's entire lifestyle
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exactly what
they're dealing with
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explaining to the person,
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helping them see the connection
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and then get on
a treatment program
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where they
actually see some impact.
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It's not that no
one had ever mentioned
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thyroid disease with Gudrun
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In fact, awhile into her program
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she got
something that she had been
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very, very...
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very much struggling
to get for about a week
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while she had been here.
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And that was lab
reports from Denmark.
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-Oh!
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And how did they relate to
the lab reports we've done here?
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-Well the interesting
thing about what had been done
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is there was this consistant
pattern over the years
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that when Gudrun was
put on thyroid replacement,
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she had been on thyroid
medications over the years,
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we'd see
improvement in certain levels
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and then someone would take
her off or she'd go off of them
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and you'd see these
same numbers worsen.
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To get that bird's eye view
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in records that she actually had
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made it fairly
clear what was going on
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with her thyroid by certain
measurements that had been done.
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One of them
that we often look at
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in low thyroid
states is called TSH,
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or Thyroid Stimulating Hormone.
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-What is it that you discovered
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that's so much different
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then perhaps the other doctors
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And I know that
you're now treating her
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Can you explain to
the viewers what that is?
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-Sure.
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Many people have
thyroid problems,
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and some of you tuning in
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today may have
problems with your thyroid,
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TSH, or Thyroid
Stimulating Hormone,
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is probably the single best
marker for low thyroid states.
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If that TSH is high
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it indicates a thyroid
deficiency in most cases.
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And doesn't that seem ironic
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to actually get a
blood test of something
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that has to do with thyroid.
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If it's high,
you've got a problem
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-Right. (laughs)
00:14:21.87\00:14:23.24
The way I explain
it to patients, Ron,
00:14:23.36\00:14:25.57
is your pituitary gland,
00:14:25.81\00:14:28.45
a little gland at
the base of your brain,
00:14:28.54\00:14:30.63
is monitoring thyroid
status throughout your body.
00:14:30.75\00:14:33.87
Everyone of us -- our
pituitary is doing that job.
00:14:34.12\00:14:37.12
Our pituitary actually
talks with the thyroid.
00:14:37.63\00:14:41.12
Have you ever heard your
00:14:41.57\00:14:42.75
pituitary
talking to your thyroid?
00:14:42.76\00:14:44.75
-Uh, not lately.
(laughs) -That's good.
00:14:45.15\00:14:48.45
-Did I pass that test?
-Yes you passed that test.
00:14:48.60\00:14:50.63
Because it doesn't
actually speak audibly
00:14:50.75\00:14:53.21
to the thyroid gland,
00:14:53.30\00:14:54.51
it speaks by sending a
chemical message called TSH.
00:14:54.60\00:14:57.84
If your thyroid, which
is in the base of your neck,
00:14:58.84\00:15:01.30
is sluggish,
00:15:01.51\00:15:02.66
the pituitary starts
to say, "Work harder"
00:15:03.03\00:15:07.06
"Work harder!"
00:15:07.51\00:15:09.06
And increasing the
volume, if you will,
00:15:09.09\00:15:11.60
is sending more TSH.
That's how it does it.
00:15:11.61\00:15:14.30
So if your thyroid is sluggish
00:15:14.48\00:15:16.27
it will raise the levels of TSH.
00:15:16.36\00:15:19.27
That is our
indication on a blood test
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of someone having a
problem with hypothyroidism
00:15:22.24\00:15:25.45
Now there are unusual situations
00:15:25.51\00:15:27.24
where things kind
of work differently,
00:15:27.25\00:15:28.78
but for all intents and purposes
00:15:29.03\00:15:30.57
in most people, if
they're hypothyroid
00:15:30.72\00:15:33.00
from failure of
the thyroid gland
00:15:33.12\00:15:34.84
that TSH level will be high.
00:15:35.06\00:15:36.63
So we saw this pattern in Gudrun
00:15:36.81\00:15:39.15
that TSH was higher
than it should have been,
00:15:41.09\00:15:43.42
she'd be treated,
those numbers would improve
00:15:43.72\00:15:46.39
and yet she wasn't
really feeling much better
00:15:46.87\00:15:51.51
when she was under treatment.
00:15:51.60\00:15:52.72
and in fact,
00:15:52.75\00:15:53.72
they would often over-treat her.
00:15:53.73\00:15:55.27
They would give her so much that
the TSH level would get too low
00:15:55.36\00:15:59.00
And presumably they might
have been trying to manipulate
00:15:59.21\00:16:03.24
the level of the
hormone replacement
00:16:03.27\00:16:05.27
based on her symptoms.
00:16:05.51\00:16:07.57
It's very
common, we often do that.
00:16:07.78\00:16:10.18
And then we
check the blood work,
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as they did in Denmark,
just like we do in the states
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the level is then too low
00:16:14.33\00:16:16.12
and then people would back off.
00:16:16.39\00:16:17.57
So she was kind of on this cycle
00:16:17.66\00:16:20.30
where she'd be on
the thyroid replacement,
00:16:20.42\00:16:22.48
she wouldn't feel much better,
00:16:22.54\00:16:24.00
they'd continue to ramp it up,
00:16:24.15\00:16:25.63
she ended up getting too much.
00:16:25.69\00:16:27.27
she maybe was feeling worse,
00:16:27.45\00:16:29.39
and then they'd stop it,
00:16:29.54\00:16:31.30
or she would stop it altogether.
00:16:31.33\00:16:32.84
One of the interesting things
00:16:33.45\00:16:35.03
that some of the
researches have found
00:16:35.04\00:16:36.45
with thyroid is
still very controversial,
00:16:36.51\00:16:38.45
but it's with certain people
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they actually do
best if we replace
00:16:40.33\00:16:43.03
not just T4...
00:16:43.09\00:16:45.63
let me explain it this way.
00:16:46.12\00:16:47.33
The thyroid actually
makes two active hormones,
00:16:47.48\00:16:50.57
for short we call them T3 and T4
00:16:51.45\00:16:54.06
most people it
seems can do just fine
00:16:54.72\00:16:57.06
with taking T4 alone.
00:16:57.24\00:16:59.06
So if one of our viewers
00:16:59.33\00:17:02.00
has been on thyroid
replacement medication--
00:17:02.03\00:17:04.63
maybe you've taken Synthroid,
00:17:04.69\00:17:06.21
or Levoxyl,
00:17:06.45\00:17:07.48
or one of these medications--
00:17:07.49\00:17:08.60
these are T4 preparations.
00:17:08.63\00:17:11.18
Levothyroxine
00:17:11.27\00:17:12.54
generic name for it.
00:17:12.66\00:17:13.87
Many people, if
they're hypothyroid,
00:17:14.15\00:17:16.21
that's all they take, T4,
00:17:16.24\00:17:17.69
and they seem to do fine.
00:17:17.84\00:17:19.15
There's another
percentage of the population,
00:17:19.45\00:17:21.51
seems to be small,
00:17:21.54\00:17:22.54
that if they're not
also getting some T3
00:17:22.72\00:17:25.24
that symptomatically
they don't do as well,
00:17:25.51\00:17:27.54
and this was the
case with Gudrun.
00:17:27.78\00:17:30.42
-this was the case with her...
00:17:30.43\00:17:31.57
So we put her on
a little bit of T3
00:17:31.63\00:17:33.81
along with the T4 and
00:17:34.06\00:17:36.03
my connection of
what she was describing
00:17:37.06\00:17:39.36
is in the first time
in treating the thyroid,
00:17:39.66\00:17:42.36
she's actually not only
00:17:42.60\00:17:44.06
getting the proper
thyroid replacement,
00:17:45.03\00:17:47.18
but she's
actually feeling better.
00:17:47.21\00:17:48.75
Now how much of that
is the Lord's blessing
00:17:49.06\00:17:51.48
some of our viewing
physicians might say, "well...
00:17:51.60\00:17:55.45
you know this is just
some sort of placebo effect
00:17:55.57\00:17:57.75
but if you look
at the literature
00:17:57.81\00:17:59.57
there really
seems to be something
00:17:59.58\00:18:01.33
in certain patients,
00:18:01.39\00:18:02.60
maybe it has to do with there
00:18:02.66\00:18:03.87
ability or
inability to convert T4 to T3
00:18:04.12\00:18:07.33
But we know the thyroid gland,
00:18:07.39\00:18:09.39
if it's working healthfully,
00:18:09.48\00:18:11.09
working properly,
00:18:11.15\00:18:12.24
is making both T3 and T4
00:18:12.36\00:18:14.45
and in Gudrun's case it
seemed like that combination
00:18:14.57\00:18:17.21
really made a
difference that she hadn't seen
00:18:17.39\00:18:19.78
with the typical, normal
strategy of thyroid replacement.
00:18:20.03\00:18:23.06
-Well she
considers it a birthday gift
00:18:23.36\00:18:25.84
that this
discovery has been made.
00:18:26.51\00:18:29.33
But I've got to ask
you at the same time,
00:18:29.54\00:18:31.18
What about...
00:18:31.24\00:18:32.39
Iodine. How
does that play a part
00:18:33.30\00:18:36.21
with hypothyroidism?
00:18:36.30\00:18:40.39
Iodine is a very tricky element,
00:18:40.51\00:18:43.24
or micronutrient as
we often refer to it as.
00:18:43.39\00:18:46.09
It is true that you need iodine
00:18:46.30\00:18:48.33
to make thyroid hormone.
00:18:48.60\00:18:50.18
-Is there enough in the salt?
00:18:50.33\00:18:51.63
Iodized salt for most people
00:18:52.66\00:18:54.54
seems to address
their iodine need
00:18:54.55\00:18:56.72
in fact most people
don't need iodized salt
00:18:56.73\00:18:59.15
unless they're living
in regions of the country
00:18:59.36\00:19:01.51
that are iodine deficient.
00:19:01.66\00:19:03.00
-Seaweed, would that help?
00:19:03.12\00:19:04.45
Well seaweed
has a lot of iodine,
00:19:04.57\00:19:06.15
now here's the catch, Ron,
00:19:06.16\00:19:07.30
Both too little iodine
00:19:07.81\00:19:11.27
and too much iodine
00:19:11.33\00:19:12.87
can shut down the thyroid.
00:19:13.18\00:19:14.42
-Really?
00:19:14.54\00:19:15.51
Yes, so if you give
large amounts of iodine
00:19:15.52\00:19:17.51
that can actually
depress thyroid function.
00:19:17.75\00:19:19.75
-Well what about people
in Asia, say Korea or Japan,
00:19:19.81\00:19:23.33
who eat a lot of seaweed,
00:19:23.60\00:19:25.45
are they at risk?
00:19:26.54\00:19:29.54
-There's actually some
interesting relationships
00:19:29.72\00:19:31.72
especially if a person
00:19:31.78\00:19:33.33
had been getting lower
00:19:33.51\00:19:34.51
iodine at one
point in their life
00:19:34.60\00:19:36.21
then ramping that up
00:19:36.24\00:19:37.24
may increase their risk of
problems like thyroid nodules,
00:19:37.48\00:19:40.84
some of those may
even be precancerous
00:19:41.12\00:19:43.48
So iodine is not something
I ever recommend a lay person
00:19:43.84\00:19:48.42
supplementing.
00:19:48.48\00:19:49.84
If they're seeing a
physician who really
00:19:50.06\00:19:52.09
is expert
00:19:52.36\00:19:54.09
in knowing how to use
iodine to treat the thyroid
00:19:54.18\00:19:57.03
they're in great shape.
00:19:57.18\00:19:58.15
Because I'll be honest with you,
00:19:58.21\00:19:59.27
I've worked with
lots of endocrinologists
00:19:59.28\00:20:01.06
but most of them feel,
00:20:01.27\00:20:02.39
at least in their
clinical practice,
00:20:02.51\00:20:04.66
Iodine is such a difficult
thing to try to titrate
00:20:05.09\00:20:08.39
or to try to dose properly
00:20:08.60\00:20:10.48
that they actually tend to avoid
00:20:10.78\00:20:12.48
using iodine at
all and they just would
00:20:12.72\00:20:14.66
replace the
thyroid if it's deficient
00:20:14.78\00:20:17.03
-So...
00:20:17.24\00:20:18.21
for our viewers at
home that are listening in,
00:20:18.45\00:20:21.15
I being one of them
listening very intently,
00:20:21.48\00:20:24.60
we shouldn't try
iodine on our own
00:20:24.75\00:20:28.30
without, perhaps, our
physician or our doctor
00:20:28.42\00:20:31.69
helping us along. -Yeah
I wouldn't recommend it.
00:20:32.12\00:20:33.69
The problem is
like I eluded to, Ron,
00:20:33.72\00:20:36.15
iodine is important,
00:20:36.30\00:20:37.63
but taking to much
of it is a problem.
00:20:38.18\00:20:39.84
And the average doctor,
00:20:40.00\00:20:41.33
even the
average endocrinologist,
00:20:41.63\00:20:43.33
if you say, "I want to
take some iodine to treat this"
00:20:43.42\00:20:45.75
in my
experience most of them are
00:20:46.15\00:20:47.39
going to
discourage you from doing it
00:20:47.48\00:20:48.75
just because it is do
difficult to regulate.
00:20:48.78\00:20:52.03
Now we've spent a
lot of time now doctor
00:20:52.42\00:20:54.87
we only have a few seconds left
00:20:55.06\00:20:56.84
with the thyroid
00:20:57.42\00:20:59.09
are there any last
remarks you'd like to make?
00:20:59.21\00:21:02.42
Basically the
remark I'd like to make is
00:21:03.24\00:21:05.00
whether it's a
thyroid problem, or some other
00:21:05.06\00:21:07.12
immunologic or endocrine problem
00:21:07.24\00:21:09.33
there are some incredible
00:21:09.51\00:21:10.48
insights that
God has in lifestyle
00:21:10.57\00:21:12.36
that can make a
difference for you.
00:21:12.42\00:21:13.63
And then just working
with a team of professionals,
00:21:13.84\00:21:15.78
whether it's in your own
hometown or here at Weimar,
00:21:15.79\00:21:17.84
can make a huge difference.
00:21:18.12\00:21:19.30
Well doctor I want to thank
you for coming on our program
00:21:19.75\00:21:22.69
it's always a
pleasure to see you
00:21:23.12\00:21:24.60
God bless you in your work.
00:21:25.09\00:21:26.51
And thank you friends
00:21:27.00\00:21:28.03
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I'm your host
today, Dr. David DeRose
00:22:50.48\00:22:52.78
and with me,
registered dietitian
00:22:53.09\00:22:55.30
Hildelisa Flickinger.
00:22:55.39\00:22:56.60
Hildelisa it's great
to have you with us today.
00:22:56.72\00:22:58.78
Thank you, glad to be here.
00:22:59.03\00:23:00.24
Hildelisa, people today,as we've
talked about in past broadcasts
00:23:00.45\00:23:05.09
really have concerns--many
of them with putting on weight.
00:23:05.21\00:23:08.54
Is this really as big of a
00:23:08.72\00:23:10.12
problem as many
people think it is?
00:23:10.18\00:23:12.21
Definitely! We have an obesity
00:23:12.36\00:23:14.21
crisis in our country today.
00:23:14.36\00:23:16.06
And in light of that,
00:23:16.24\00:23:17.36
there's no
shortage of diets, is there?
00:23:17.63\00:23:20.30
-No, there's not.
00:23:20.31\00:23:21.54
What we're really
trying to do today is
00:23:21.63\00:23:23.81
look at
something really practical
00:23:24.21\00:23:25.84
that someone could do
in just a few minutes.
00:23:26.06\00:23:28.24
If they can
catch an idea of, this
00:23:28.33\00:23:30.48
so called, "volumetrics concept"
00:23:30.69\00:23:33.72
we believe it can
make a big difference.
00:23:34.21\00:23:36.09
What is this talk
about "volumetrics"?
00:23:36.30\00:23:39.21
-Well that is from a
study from Penn State University
00:23:39.39\00:23:43.09
and it taps into a
concept that I believe
00:23:43.30\00:23:45.60
that the
NEWSTART program here at
00:23:45.63\00:23:47.33
Weimar Center for
Health and Education
00:23:47.36\00:23:50.06
have known for years.
00:23:50.24\00:23:51.48
And that is that if
you eat foods that are
00:23:51.72\00:23:54.66
less in energy density,
00:23:54.84\00:23:56.78
you'll lose weight.
00:23:57.06\00:23:58.51
- Ok, so energy density
00:23:59.03\00:24:01.03
refers then to the amount of
00:24:01.18\00:24:03.21
calories in a given
volume of food, is that right?
00:24:03.27\00:24:06.81
-Exactly.
00:24:07.06\00:24:08.03
So if you fill your
plate up with these foods
00:24:08.06\00:24:09.84
you'll be eating more foods,
00:24:10.00\00:24:11.57
but eating less calories.
00:24:11.66\00:24:13.33
- Ok, so we don't have to say,
00:24:13.48\00:24:15.24
"Push yourself away from
the table. Don't eat fast."
00:24:15.33\00:24:18.57
But we can say,
"Eat the right foods.
00:24:18.69\00:24:20.33
Eat foods that fill you up,
00:24:20.48\00:24:22.27
but don't give you
a lot of calories."
00:24:22.39\00:24:23.66
-Exactly. And
what do you think those
00:24:23.67\00:24:25.39
foods that are low
in energy density are?
00:24:25.51\00:24:28.27
- Well the first thing that
comes to my mind, Hildelisa,
00:24:28.30\00:24:30.78
is iceberg lettuce.
00:24:30.81\00:24:32.06
I mean there's a
lot of food there,
00:24:32.12\00:24:34.27
but not many
calories, are there?
00:24:34.30\00:24:36.21
-Definitely. So that would be
00:24:36.45\00:24:38.24
plant based
foods, like the fruits,
00:24:38.48\00:24:41.21
and the vegetables,
and the whole grains.
00:24:41.30\00:24:43.51
So if you eat these
foods you can eat more food
00:24:44.00\00:24:46.42
and less calories
00:24:46.48\00:24:47.72
Now what's more is
that these plant based foods
00:24:48.63\00:24:51.18
are going to
prevent chronic diseases
00:24:51.21\00:24:53.60
and they're going to
keep your weight down.
00:24:54.00\00:24:56.78
Hildelisa, one of the
00:24:58.69\00:25:00.12
questions is that
we're talking about
00:25:00.24\00:25:01.78
really getting these foods
that have fewer calories in them
00:25:02.03\00:25:05.42
but couldn't someone just say,
00:25:06.48\00:25:08.33
"Can I eat less of the
foods with more calories"
00:25:08.48\00:25:11.45
They say, "I like my hamburgers
00:25:11.46\00:25:12.69
and milkshakes
and french fries."
00:25:12.78\00:25:14.36
-Well the principle is that
00:25:14.72\00:25:16.51
foods that are
high in water content
00:25:16.52\00:25:19.18
and fiber content,
00:25:19.39\00:25:20.48
those are things that are going
to fill you up so you eat less.
00:25:20.51\00:25:23.54
For example, fruits
00:25:23.84\00:25:25.09
they are 80-95% water
00:25:25.18\00:25:28.06
fruits and vegetables.
00:25:28.12\00:25:29.45
and hot grains are 85% water
00:25:29.54\00:25:32.33
and soups, they
can be up to 95% water.
00:25:32.48\00:25:35.84
-So they fill you up,
00:25:36.24\00:25:37.57
but they don't give
you a lot of calories.
00:25:37.69\00:25:39.18
-Right. Now do you suppose that
00:25:39.24\00:25:41.18
if you just drink
a big glass of water
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with your
hamburger, will that work?
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Well I'm not going
to eat a hamburger,
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Hildelisa, don't worry.
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Tell us, is that a solution
if someone wants to say,
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"I'll have 80% water at my meal
and eat the burger and fries?"
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No, that wouldn't work.
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The water has to be in
the food in order to work.
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-And why is that?
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-Well because that is
how you're going to fill up.
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-Ok...
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And the food is
going to have less calories
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whereas if you eat the hamburger
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even though you
have the glass of water,
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you're going to eat all
the calories in that hamburger,
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for example.
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Now let's just visualize
what we're talking about
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I have here
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100 calories of
rasins, or dried grapes,
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it's about less
than a quarter cup,
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and about 100
calories of grapes,
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a little less than two cups.
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Now which one
would you rather eat?
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-Now are you
telling me that there's the
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same number of
calories in each of those?
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-Exactly.
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-Well if I'm wanting to
fill up with less calories,
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I'm gonna choose the grapes.
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Definitely, that is
going to fill you up
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and give you the
same amount of calories,
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but it's so easy to
eat this amount of rasins
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whereas the grapes
will definitely fill you up.
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So we're not saying the
rasins aren't a healthy snack,
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but they are a problem when it
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comes to giving
you lots of calories
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in a small amount of volume.
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-When you're trying to
watch your weight, yes.
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Now pasta and italian bread
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have similar ingredients.
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But if you think about it,
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the pasta absorbs the
water that it's cooked in,
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so it's going to be
half as energy dense
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as the bread.
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So that's the
concept we're talking about.
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The dryer the
food, the more calories.
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Hildelisa, this
is great information
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hopefully you've learned some
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things today that
can make a difference
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as far as helping
you trim a few of those
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aditional pounds
you're trying to get rid of.
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I'm Dr. David
DeRose letting you know
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that if you want
more information,
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go to our website,
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