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00:23 Hi, friends, and welcome
00:25 to another edition of NEWSTART Now.
00:27 I'm your host, Ron Giannoni.
00:30 In our studio we have Bill Hoshall.
00:32 Bill is in business for himself
00:36 and that alone produces a lot of tension
00:39 and stress and has dealt with a lot of issues,
00:43 and I'd like you to take
00:44 a look at when he first arrived.
00:47 What I was experiencing basically
00:49 is high blood pressure.
00:51 I mean, my blood pressure
00:53 was out of control 160 over 95.
00:58 Diabetes, my sugar was up in 188 to 200,
01:05 I hadn't been checking it.
01:08 And then what really motivated me to come up here
01:11 was to try to look the cameras back was
01:13 that I was scheduled to have a stent put in,
01:19 about three weeks ago.
01:21 And so I've been suffering from Angina.
01:25 So, what I'm expecting out of my visit
01:28 to Weimar is I want to,
01:31 number one, I didn't mentioned to you
01:32 that I was 230 pounds, which is pretty heavy
01:36 for my height and my body mass.
01:41 I want to lose that weight,
01:43 I want to get my blood pressure in a normal range,
01:46 I want to get my sugar in a normal range
01:49 and I'd like to reverse my heart disease.
01:56 Welcome back, friends, and Bill, How are you, sir?
01:59 I'm fine, how you doing, Ron?
02:00 I'm doing great.
02:02 I want to get right into your program here
02:06 at the NEWSTART Program.
02:08 Absolutely. What has changed?
02:10 What has happened to you in the last few weeks
02:13 that has caused you to,
02:15 or could you just tell us what's happened?
02:17 Well, you know, I was up here about
02:19 three months ago and I did everything
02:24 they said and got everything into a safe range,
02:27 my high blood pressure and that's down to about
02:32 138 over 80 something like that without any medication.
02:37 I haven't had any medication
02:38 since I was here at that time.
02:43 My diabetes is... my bloods sugars
02:47 are at the range of you know,
02:49 in the morning it's like 90 and maybe it goes up to 127
02:52 or something like that. So that's at a safe range.
02:56 And that's without medication.
02:57 Without medication, no medication,
02:59 no, I take absolutely no medication.
03:01 I do take a little half a Aspirin a day
03:03 with the angina.
03:06 The baby Aspirin. No, I take a half of a full Aspirin.
03:09 A full Aspirin. I just felt that
03:11 a baby Aspirin was not quite enough.
03:13 Yes. I'm like,
03:15 I'm one of those, you know, I want to make sure.
03:16 Right. And now that's because
03:19 you were suffering from Angina or...
03:21 Angina, and it's pretty much goes away now
03:28 except when I go up hill,
03:30 you know if I walk on a level surface
03:32 I don't experience it at all.
03:33 So, the angina goes away unless
03:36 you're straining like going up hill.
03:38 Yes. Okay.
03:40 Now. And what do you do to alleviate that,
03:42 is there anything you do when you're going uphill?
03:44 Well here's, when I was here last time,
03:47 I have to confess, I only use about 80%
03:52 of the information that was given to me, okay.
03:55 Okay. So, this last session,
03:58 I brought my brother in from Washington,
04:01 he is 73-years old and in really bad shape.
04:04 So I got him to come in and brought my son,
04:07 who is 50-years old and his was a weight,
04:10 strictly a weight problem.
04:13 And I've been here to support him
04:16 and I've been sitting on the classes.
04:19 And I call them, you know, the I call them the tools,
04:22 they gave you the tools to stay on it.
04:24 Right. And it's really interesting
04:25 because as I'll sit on classes,
04:28 I've heard them before two or three times.
04:31 But I got information, it just it made an impact on me
04:35 and so now I'm convinced that there's,
04:38 it's got to be a 100% for me.
04:40 Amen. Yeah,
04:41 and that's what I wanted to do.
04:43 But other then that I'm feeling fantastic.
04:47 Well, you and I talked just before the program begin
04:51 and I agreed and kind of confessed to you
04:56 that whenever we do these reversing diabetes programs
04:59 that we take on the road
05:01 and some of you know what I'm talking about.
05:03 We're able to go to various states
05:07 and present our 18 day program in 3 days
05:11 and that's quite intense.
05:13 And our last program was two weeks ago here on the campus.
05:18 And when I heard the lectures again,
05:21 I said okay that's it, I'm committed a 100%,
05:26 no more oil, no more of those hidden fats
05:29 that are in cans and breads and various ways that I was,
05:35 they were creeping back into my life, Bill.
05:38 They do it, they do it.
05:39 You know like going to the movie
05:41 and you know, having butter on the popcorn,
05:45 it's not animal fats, so I figured,
05:47 oh, well a little bit.
05:48 But once you make these compromises,
05:52 all of a sudden you start creeping back,
05:55 the cholesterol starts going up,
05:57 the triglycerides going up. Oh, yeah.
05:59 And angina comes back,
06:02 you start to feel a little sluggish.
06:04 Oh, absolutely, and you know, that popcorn
06:06 and you say butter, that's additional butter
06:09 because they pop it in butter or an oil.
06:11 Oh, yes.
06:12 So, you don't have to ask for butter to have butter.
06:14 It's on there... That's right, that's right.
06:16 So, absolutely.
06:17 So I've recommitted to myself and so far,
06:24 since I've committed, that's been like 12 days.
06:28 I've lost five pounds and I'm going to get down
06:32 to where my weight is perfect according to the BMI index.
06:38 And so I understand what you've just been through
06:42 and like our viewers to know
06:45 that there is no cheating in this.
06:47 No, there is no cheating. You just got commit to a 100%.
06:50 And you know, you can fool everybody else,
06:51 but you can't fool yourself.
06:53 That's right. You know, I mean,
06:54 you can play games with yourself,
06:56 but now I'm thoroughly convinced
06:58 and it's really, I'm fortunate
07:01 because I don't live too far away, you know,
07:03 couple of hours drive and I'm here.
07:04 Yes. And I plan to come back
07:07 as often as I can even, you know,
07:09 for three or four days at a time
07:11 just to be in the environment.
07:13 You know, because it's the tools
07:15 that they give you here.
07:16 Yes. And it's not only the natural remedies of,
07:23 you know, exercise and water and air and nutrition
07:27 and the vegan diet is a big thing.
07:30 But it's all the information they give you.
07:33 Yeah, now do you think you could have done this at home?
07:37 Never. Never, you know,
07:39 that's the couple of people and I too,
07:41 I just didn't have the strength to do,
07:43 and I didn't have the knowledge.
07:45 Even if I had read a book it wasn't inspiring enough.
07:48 None of us have the strength, Ron,
07:50 none of us have the strength.
07:52 Yes. It's only through the Lord that you can do this.
07:54 Amen. Absolutely no doubt.
07:57 Amen. Yeah.
07:58 You know, we're so blessed to be here, Bill.
08:01 Oh, absolutely.
08:02 And get this message that the Lord has given us
08:05 and He's here, He's had us upon this place
08:08 and we see time and time again,
08:11 people like yourself that are just, you know,
08:14 how much weight have you lost?
08:16 Well, I weighed 230 when I came the first time
08:19 and weighed myself this morning, I weigh 205.
08:22 So you've lost like 25 pounds and you want to be what 190?
08:28 190, you know what? According to the index,
08:31 I'm supposed to be at 187.
08:34 But it's a little bit, you know, for me I don't,
08:37 I can't see myself being that thin again.
08:39 The index says, I should weight 194
08:42 that's 6 more pounds, I don't know
08:44 where it's gonna come from, I'm feeling pretty lean.
08:48 But you look good, Bill.
08:49 I feel good too. I feel good.
08:51 I've much more energy and you know,
08:53 I have 75 employees and we've salons and spas.
08:58 Yes. And we're talking to a lot of people.
09:01 Constantly. Constantly, yeah, and I find that,
09:05 in terms of a witness, they see the change in you
09:09 and they're very curious as to what you're doing.
09:12 What are you doing? Yeah, what are you taking?
09:15 Yes. What are you taking?
09:16 What are you taking?
09:18 That's the thing, what are you taking?
09:19 Did you have a facelift? It just too simple.
09:22 Yeah, yeah. It's just too simple, yeah.
09:24 So maybe we can do a special event for your employees?
09:30 You know, I'd love that,
09:31 I've ask one of your speakers here at Weimar
09:34 to come down and talk to our staff and I've had
09:37 Dr. Lukens there before, we did a cancer event
09:41 for breast cancer at our spa
09:44 and we had him come down and talk to the people, so.
09:47 Well, you just give us a call
09:49 and we'll get our crew down there
09:50 where we have several presenters
09:52 that maybe can open the eyes of your employees that...
09:56 That would be great. Yeah.
09:57 That would be great. Yeah.
09:59 So, Bill, you know, my prayers
10:02 that you continue on this path,
10:05 I can see that you're committed
10:07 and I just bless you and bless your work
10:10 and the work that you and your wife have done
10:13 here at Weimar and continue to do today.
10:16 And I want to thank you for being on the set with us.
10:19 Thank you. And giving us your testimony.
10:20 It's been my pleasure. Thank you.
10:22 Yeah, God bless you. God bless you.
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11:34 Welcome back, friends, and in our studio,
11:36 Dr. Rick Lukens, my good friend, how are you?
11:39 Thank you, thank you, this is a really,
11:43 really important one for Americans
11:45 and all the people that are on the Western diet.
11:48 Yeah, and I want to get right into it,
11:50 because you know, Bill is a good friend of mine
11:52 as I know, he's of yours for many years.
11:57 Yep. And he's been a good supporter
11:59 of our NEWSTART program here.
12:02 He's been through the program a couple of times
12:04 and he's heard these lectures
12:06 and you just heard him say,
12:08 well, this time he's into it a 100%.
12:12 Why are we and I'm put myself in the same category
12:17 because you and I talked two weeks ago.
12:19 Yep. And I recommitted myself a 100%
12:23 what does it take, why are we not willing
12:26 to do what it takes, a 100% right from the beginning?
12:32 Well, now you're talking about human nature
12:35 and stuff like that.
12:36 But I mean, everybody knows
12:37 that there is something in their life
12:39 and that's really, really tough
12:41 and appetite is one of the first ones.
12:44 But I think for that it takes a wake up call
12:47 and when I talked to him, back in October or November.
12:52 He was actually ready to go in
12:57 and they said we're going to put a catheter in
13:00 and it was in one of the fairly local hospitals.
13:04 They said, we don't do,
13:07 we don't do the intervention studies here
13:09 but we'll put a catheter in
13:11 and we'll suit some guy in
13:13 and then when we get that study done,
13:15 then we'll just put you in an ambulance if you need it.
13:20 And then we'll send you across the way
13:22 and they'll put a couple of stents in and bing bing,
13:25 boom boom and you're on your way.
13:27 But what if this stents didn't work.
13:29 Well, I see the thing is that he,
13:32 Dr. Ing has checked his carotids
13:34 and he's got a lot of plaque in one of the carotids
13:39 and so it starts out in the lower extremities
13:41 and works it's way up.
13:43 So if he's got it up here, he's got it in here.
13:46 And they all, they all thread that in
13:49 and they may stent those blockages,
13:52 but if they can't do it then they're obligated
13:56 to go to the next step
13:57 and that's to do open heart surgery.
14:00 And so he calls me up on the phone
14:02 and he said he was in the parking lot,
14:04 I'm not sure exactly the sequence.
14:07 But it's kind of like a last minute,
14:09 last stitch thing, what do I do?
14:12 And so, I said, man, you know what you need to do
14:18 and I talked to him through the years,
14:20 you know, and I didn't say Doc,
14:22 you know, I wanted, I think two years ago
14:24 about two years ago.
14:25 He said I'm gonna do it and he did and he started,
14:28 but then he started losing a lot of weight.
14:31 You know, he's in the fashion business
14:34 and a big business man and stuff like that
14:36 and when you lose too much then you look older,
14:42 more mature so that,
14:44 that that's where you're going, you see.
14:46 Here are the key presentors.
14:47 Yeah, and so they know, you know,
14:48 that's really absolutely true.
14:50 It's true. And I struggle with that
14:52 for years after I came here,
14:54 you know, because anyway that's another story,
14:57 but none us like older before our time.
15:01 But the thing is, is that our arteries
15:03 and our heart and other places in our body,
15:06 they know how old we are.
15:07 Well, you know I want to you tell you
15:09 what Dr. Ing told me when I said,
15:11 you know some of my friends are telling me
15:13 I'm looking little too lean.
15:15 He says, well do you want to look good for your friends
15:18 or do you want to be healthy?
15:19 I said, I want to be healthy,
15:21 he says, well then heck with, you know,
15:23 he said in so many words.
15:25 So, you know, here I am, I'm on board,
15:28 I'm a 100%, I've got six pounds
15:31 and my BMI is in check
15:33 and then the next blood draw you do,
15:35 I know I'm going to be okay. Is that right?
15:38 Yeah, that great, see because Bill said
15:41 that his cholesterol was well above 200.
15:45 Yes. The total, and then when he came in here
15:51 for the full program and you know,
15:54 he's being on the periphery all this time,
15:56 he came in for the full program.
15:59 And his cholesterol was closed to 200,
16:01 so that was better,
16:03 but when he left his cholesterol was under a 150.
16:08 Isn't that amazing. Yeah, that's wonderful
16:10 and the thing is that the viewers out there,
16:14 most of them have heard of President Clinton
16:18 and his interview with Dr. Esselstyn.
16:23 And Esselstyn is the one that
16:24 did the prospective landmark study
16:27 and he followed the people in there,
16:28 there wasn't any, you know there wasn't
16:31 any fooling around, there wasn't any glitches.
16:34 They kept going in there and getting their blood drawn,
16:37 some of them every two weeks
16:39 and he just kept checking and checking and checking
16:41 and he's said, look you guys,
16:43 if you're going to do this, their cholesterol,
16:45 it was an easy number to remember 246,
16:49 two hundred and forty six average,
16:52 their average age 57.
16:55 During that time some of them had four coronary events
16:58 of some types or another.
17:01 And during that time their cholesterol,
17:04 everybody went below 130
17:06 and their average cholesterol was 132
17:11 and here the 17 of them that stayed on it,
17:14 12 years later they get together for a reunion
17:21 and all the wonderful camaraderie
17:23 and everything, and talk about how they enjoyed
17:25 those last 12 years. Now their age 69,
17:29 that's not a bad deal for 57 year old cardiac cripples.
17:33 So people know of vessels, they know of arteries,
17:36 they know of these other ones that are doing these things.
17:40 But Esselstyn is one that had the best track record
17:44 and he is the one that wants people to go totally,
17:47 totally vegan and no added oil whatsoever.
17:51 And you know, he's from Cleveland Clinic.
17:54 And he has friends and acquaintances
17:57 in high places in the government
17:59 and he says, you do it and it works.
18:02 Well, let me. You don't do it.
18:04 Let me ask you this, we've got 3 doctors
18:08 that are on staff here at the NEWSTART Program.
18:12 What do the three doctors say, they're here,
18:15 are they in alignment with Esselstyn?
18:18 Yeah, everybody has to be at least
18:21 giving lip service to Esselstyn,
18:23 no matter where you are.
18:24 I've talked to cardiologist and they're excited,
18:27 they say, you know, when they get out of their residency,
18:30 they're excited they're going to go out
18:32 and change the world.
18:33 They're going to do all these preventive things
18:35 and nobody will listen.
18:37 See I don't want to tell him that
18:38 when he was in the parking lot or wherever he was,
18:40 but I knew that if these things didn't go well,
18:44 he was going to have to have open heart surgery.
18:47 Well, we know, Bill.
18:48 And if he had the open surgery, he's an avid golfer,
18:51 he wouldn't be able to swing that club for a while.
18:53 For quite a while, over 6 months for me.
18:56 We know Bill's in a right track,
18:58 we can see that, we heard his testimony,
19:01 he's gonna do fine.
19:03 There are people out there watching
19:04 this program right now Doc,
19:06 that needs to hear from you,
19:08 they need to hear from me
19:11 what they need to do starting right today.
19:13 What's the best thing born on,
19:16 the best thing a 100%, they can start now.
19:20 Okay, fix all your food from just a plant based source.
19:25 When you are cooking don't have any free oily fat
19:29 anywhere in your house so can't add to it.
19:32 Now, and people say you know doc,
19:35 you're a little bit hard on us.
19:36 Because we need a little bit on our salad,
19:38 we need whatever but you can do it.
19:40 And do it in a smaller step, like I say okay.
19:43 Here is a start of a new month,
19:45 I'll do this a 100% for four weeks
19:49 and I'll see if I can do it. Right.
19:51 And then after that and you know,
19:53 it just keep trying it.
19:55 Some people don't have to be that careful
19:58 but most people do and to reverse this severe disease
20:02 and stop the angina and do all these kind of things,
20:05 when you do it, it works.
20:07 Okay that one thing what number two on your list?
20:11 No you've got to do the exercise.
20:13 Okay, but I don't want to leave that out.
20:15 Because we know...
20:16 Okay, and exercise is most important,
20:18 because you lose weight, when you lose weight
20:21 when your exercise your HDL goes up,
20:23 helps take the cholesterol out of arteries.
20:25 When you lose weight, your LDL is going to go down.
20:29 And then your exercise has got to be part of it.
20:33 So start out do whatever you can.
20:36 So food and exercise. Exercise and then food.
20:40 And those are the two things.
20:41 Exercise will give you the courage to do it.
20:43 Hey, you know, two weeks ago I couldn't walk at all
20:47 and now I'm doing you know whatever,
20:49 this is exciting, I'm gonna do the diet part too.
20:51 You're exciting me and I'm no more excited again.
20:55 Doc I want to just thank you, God bless you in your work.
20:58 The thing with the heart attack is half the time
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22:28 Hello and welcome to NEWSTART at home,
22:29 I'm your host, Don Mackintosh,
22:31 we're glad you're with us.
22:32 And we are also glad that we have Dr. Doug Plata,
22:35 with us today. Welcome, doctor.
22:36 Appreciate it. You're a specialist in family practice
22:40 but also preventive medicine. That's right.
22:42 And as we were talking,
22:44 you said one of the most important things
22:45 for people to do is to have a consistent exercise program.
22:49 Why is that, how can we get it started.
22:51 How can we make it stick?
22:52 Well, there are so many benefits to exercise,
22:55 I mean, it's one of the most powerful medicines
22:57 that we have and it's important for heart heath
23:01 and so many different things even depression.
23:04 So, and the other question was how...
23:06 How do we get it started and how do we make it stick?
23:08 You know, I think most people it's common sense
23:11 that we all need to be exercising on a regular basis,
23:14 especially aerobic exercise or walking,
23:16 running, cycling these sorts of things.
23:19 In terms of how to make it you know,
23:21 well, how to get started, what I would recommend
23:25 is that people try to find something
23:27 that they think, that they're gonna stick with it.
23:29 And for me that is something that is enjoyable.
23:32 There is nothing like, oh, I have to get up
23:34 and I have to walk or jog or something like this.
23:37 And if you don't like doing that,
23:38 it's going to be very difficult
23:39 to really keep doing that, you know, month after month,
23:42 year after year like in fact we need to do.
23:44 So what I recommend is try to make it in someway enjoyable
23:48 so that something you will be looking forward to.
23:51 So what do you do personally?
23:53 What do you look forward to in terms of exercise?
23:54 Well, I found it for me, I found it
23:56 and that is for me is cycling.
23:58 Now being in preventive medicine,
24:00 I actually looked in literature
24:01 and say how safe is this.
24:03 And unfortunately cycling is not
24:04 the one of the safest things,
24:06 but for me it's one of the most enjoyable things.
24:08 So I did buy a bicycle and I got routes
24:13 on the street that was safe.
24:15 You know very little traffic and I just went out cycle,
24:18 I'm very cautious about it,
24:19 because I'm out there to get exercising and for my health.
24:23 And obviously injury is not at all helpful.
24:25 Right, so walking?
24:27 Walking is one of the best,
24:30 if there are something that you enjoy doing,
24:32 walking is, it's relatively safe, it's not pounding,
24:36 it's not damaging to the knees
24:39 and it's something that anybody can do,
24:41 I mean, what you need to walk, you need a pair of shoes,
24:44 you know, in a safe place.
24:45 So what about, you know, one of my problem
24:48 just a little confession here that,
24:50 when I was growing up, most of my exercises
24:53 related to sports or activities
24:55 where they were other people involved.
24:58 Right. And then when you certain get
25:00 to certain stage on life, sometimes you don't have,
25:02 well, you know, I'm not saying I don't have friends.
25:05 But you don't have to have that same setup.
25:08 Right. And what would you say
25:10 to someone like me or people like you.
25:12 Like you, sure. I think the social dimension
25:16 to exercise can be very important
25:19 as a motivating factor.
25:20 If you know that somebody else is expecting
25:23 to meet you at 8 in the morning.
25:25 Are you going to get out of the bed and go,
25:26 yes, you will, where as if you don't
25:28 have an exercise partner.
25:30 So a good friend, you can, you know,
25:32 have a lot of fun talking to them
25:33 and I think that's a very important thing.
25:36 Studies show actually, if you have an exercise partner,
25:38 you're more likely to be consistent with an exercise.
25:41 What about a dog?
25:43 I was gonna mention a dog.
25:45 A dog is great, I think it's also a wonderful thing
25:49 and you know what dog's need to be walked,
25:52 so you feel some sort of obligation to make sure
25:54 that you walk the dog. Just be careful,
25:57 I know, you should jog with dog
25:59 and it would like to run with me,
26:01 and of course, that was very dangerous.
26:02 Yeah, I remember working in the ER once
26:04 and this lady had a huge Great Dane.
26:07 A Great Dane, very large and I will just say,
26:12 make sure you have a short leash.
26:14 This dog had a big long leash
26:15 and lady did not see that the dog is starting
26:17 to run and when she turn around
26:19 that it already built up steam and actually,
26:22 you know, she fell over and dug her around the road.
26:25 Whose is walking who?
26:26 Exactly and that already, it's funny at all,
26:29 she was really injured.
26:30 So just be careful with the dogs.
26:31 But so, start it and then stick
26:34 with it with the social things
26:35 and with maybe a pat anything else.
26:38 Yeah, let me mention about safety.
26:41 And that is some people, you know,
26:44 you live in a neighborhood or maybe you don't feel safe,
26:46 you know, walking around the neighborhood
26:50 and in that sort of situation if you're walking
26:52 with a partner of course, you feel a lot more safe.
26:55 But also there are often times at malls there is you know,
26:59 walking groups that you can find out about
27:03 and if the weather is inclement.
27:05 It's raining or something like that,
27:07 again malls are a good place too.
27:09 Pool, swimming. Swimming pools another good form of exercise
27:12 not so good in terms of building up strong bones
27:14 but aerobically very good.
27:17 We've been talking to Dr. Doug Plata,
27:18 we've been talking about exercise,
27:20 you need to start and stick with it.
27:22 And we have some very practical ideas
27:24 how to do that. Thank you for joining us
27:26 on NEWSTART at home but get out of your home
27:28 and exercise today.
27:30 And thank you, Doctor, for being with us,
27:32 we can find more information about this
27:34 or other subjects at newstartclub.com,
27:37 that's newstartclub.com.
27:39 Tell your friends about it,
27:40 we're glad you joined us today.
27:48 Well, friends, that's it for today.
27:50 Those of you have listened to this testimony
27:53 by Bill Hoshall. I know, you're thinking,
27:55 well, can this happen for me if I go to NEWSTART?
27:58 Well, pick up the phone and call us at 800-525-9192.
28:05 God bless you, have a great day.


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