Hi, friends, and welcome 00:00:23.71\00:00:25.01 to another edition of NEWSTART Now. 00:00:25.02\00:00:27.40 I'm your host, Ron Giannoni. 00:00:27.41\00:00:30.04 In our studio we have Bill Hoshall. 00:00:30.05\00:00:32.68 Bill is in business for himself 00:00:32.69\00:00:36.00 and that alone produces a lot of tension 00:00:36.01\00:00:39.54 and stress and has dealt with a lot of issues, 00:00:39.55\00:00:43.36 and I'd like you to take 00:00:43.37\00:00:44.34 a look at when he first arrived. 00:00:44.35\00:00:46.40 What I was experiencing basically 00:00:47.69\00:00:49.64 is high blood pressure. 00:00:49.65\00:00:50.79 I mean, my blood pressure 00:00:50.80\00:00:53.70 was out of control 160 over 95. 00:00:53.71\00:00:58.93 Diabetes, my sugar was up in 188 to 200, 00:00:58.94\00:01:05.67 I hadn't been checking it. 00:01:05.68\00:01:08.30 And then what really motivated me to come up here 00:01:08.31\00:01:11.35 was to try to look the cameras back was 00:01:11.36\00:01:13.67 that I was scheduled to have a stent put in, 00:01:13.68\00:01:19.30 about three weeks ago. 00:01:19.31\00:01:21.20 And so I've been suffering from Angina. 00:01:21.21\00:01:25.32 So, what I'm expecting out of my visit 00:01:25.33\00:01:28.11 to Weimar is I want to, 00:01:28.12\00:01:31.05 number one, I didn't mentioned to you 00:01:31.06\00:01:32.44 that I was 230 pounds, which is pretty heavy 00:01:32.45\00:01:36.88 for my height and my body mass. 00:01:36.89\00:01:41.27 I want to lose that weight, 00:01:41.28\00:01:43.62 I want to get my blood pressure in a normal range, 00:01:43.63\00:01:46.86 I want to get my sugar in a normal range 00:01:46.87\00:01:49.95 and I'd like to reverse my heart disease. 00:01:49.96\00:01:53.34 Welcome back, friends, and Bill, How are you, sir? 00:01:56.33\00:01:59.30 I'm fine, how you doing, Ron? 00:01:59.31\00:02:00.41 I'm doing great. 00:02:00.42\00:02:01.65 I want to get right into your program here 00:02:01.66\00:02:06.30 at the NEWSTART Program. 00:02:06.31\00:02:08.15 Absolutely. What has changed? 00:02:08.16\00:02:10.31 What has happened to you in the last few weeks 00:02:10.32\00:02:13.18 that has caused you to, 00:02:13.19\00:02:15.82 or could you just tell us what's happened? 00:02:15.83\00:02:17.19 Well, you know, I was up here about 00:02:17.20\00:02:19.14 three months ago and I did everything 00:02:19.15\00:02:24.25 they said and got everything into a safe range, 00:02:24.26\00:02:27.65 my high blood pressure and that's down to about 00:02:27.66\00:02:32.36 138 over 80 something like that without any medication. 00:02:32.37\00:02:37.50 I haven't had any medication 00:02:37.51\00:02:38.82 since I was here at that time. 00:02:38.83\00:02:43.05 My diabetes is... my bloods sugars 00:02:43.06\00:02:47.26 are at the range of you know, 00:02:47.27\00:02:49.14 in the morning it's like 90 and maybe it goes up to 127 00:02:49.15\00:02:52.73 or something like that. So that's at a safe range. 00:02:52.74\00:02:56.02 And that's without medication. 00:02:56.03\00:02:57.66 Without medication, no medication, 00:02:57.67\00:02:59.33 no, I take absolutely no medication. 00:02:59.34\00:03:01.33 I do take a little half a Aspirin a day 00:03:01.34\00:03:03.66 with the angina. 00:03:03.67\00:03:06.25 The baby Aspirin. No, I take a half of a full Aspirin. 00:03:06.26\00:03:09.51 A full Aspirin. I just felt that 00:03:09.52\00:03:11.56 a baby Aspirin was not quite enough. 00:03:11.57\00:03:13.60 Yes. I'm like, 00:03:13.61\00:03:14.58 I'm one of those, you know, I want to make sure. 00:03:14.59\00:03:16.62 Right. And now that's because 00:03:16.63\00:03:19.25 you were suffering from Angina or... 00:03:19.26\00:03:21.82 Angina, and it's pretty much goes away now 00:03:21.83\00:03:28.67 except when I go up hill, 00:03:28.68\00:03:30.18 you know if I walk on a level surface 00:03:30.19\00:03:32.05 I don't experience it at all. 00:03:32.06\00:03:33.86 So, the angina goes away unless 00:03:33.87\00:03:36.42 you're straining like going up hill. 00:03:36.43\00:03:38.57 Yes. Okay. 00:03:38.58\00:03:39.82 Now. And what do you do to alleviate that, 00:03:39.83\00:03:42.11 is there anything you do when you're going uphill? 00:03:42.12\00:03:44.93 Well here's, when I was here last time, 00:03:44.94\00:03:47.19 I have to confess, I only use about 80% 00:03:47.20\00:03:52.26 of the information that was given to me, okay. 00:03:52.27\00:03:55.83 Okay. So, this last session, 00:03:55.84\00:03:58.18 I brought my brother in from Washington, 00:03:58.19\00:04:01.57 he is 73-years old and in really bad shape. 00:04:01.58\00:04:04.80 So I got him to come in and brought my son, 00:04:04.81\00:04:07.89 who is 50-years old and his was a weight, 00:04:07.90\00:04:10.87 strictly a weight problem. 00:04:10.88\00:04:13.66 And I've been here to support him 00:04:13.67\00:04:16.69 and I've been sitting on the classes. 00:04:16.70\00:04:19.13 And I call them, you know, the I call them the tools, 00:04:19.14\00:04:22.26 they gave you the tools to stay on it. 00:04:22.27\00:04:24.29 Right. And it's really interesting 00:04:24.30\00:04:25.70 because as I'll sit on classes, 00:04:25.71\00:04:28.14 I've heard them before two or three times. 00:04:28.15\00:04:31.01 But I got information, it just it made an impact on me 00:04:31.02\00:04:35.40 and so now I'm convinced that there's, 00:04:35.41\00:04:38.38 it's got to be a 100% for me. 00:04:38.39\00:04:40.23 Amen. Yeah, 00:04:40.24\00:04:41.39 and that's what I wanted to do. 00:04:41.40\00:04:43.52 But other then that I'm feeling fantastic. 00:04:43.53\00:04:47.18 Well, you and I talked just before the program begin 00:04:47.19\00:04:51.34 and I agreed and kind of confessed to you 00:04:51.35\00:04:56.03 that whenever we do these reversing diabetes programs 00:04:56.04\00:04:59.79 that we take on the road 00:04:59.80\00:05:01.21 and some of you know what I'm talking about. 00:05:01.22\00:05:03.78 We're able to go to various states 00:05:03.79\00:05:07.16 and present our 18 day program in 3 days 00:05:07.17\00:05:11.87 and that's quite intense. 00:05:11.88\00:05:13.94 And our last program was two weeks ago here on the campus. 00:05:13.95\00:05:18.47 And when I heard the lectures again, 00:05:18.48\00:05:21.24 I said okay that's it, I'm committed a 100%, 00:05:21.25\00:05:26.31 no more oil, no more of those hidden fats 00:05:26.32\00:05:29.91 that are in cans and breads and various ways that I was, 00:05:29.92\00:05:35.91 they were creeping back into my life, Bill. 00:05:35.92\00:05:38.21 They do it, they do it. 00:05:38.22\00:05:39.26 You know like going to the movie 00:05:39.27\00:05:40.92 and you know, having butter on the popcorn, 00:05:40.93\00:05:45.10 it's not animal fats, so I figured, 00:05:45.11\00:05:47.42 oh, well a little bit. 00:05:47.43\00:05:48.93 But once you make these compromises, 00:05:48.94\00:05:52.38 all of a sudden you start creeping back, 00:05:52.39\00:05:55.18 the cholesterol starts going up, 00:05:55.19\00:05:57.23 the triglycerides going up. Oh, yeah. 00:05:57.24\00:05:59.58 And angina comes back, 00:05:59.59\00:06:02.15 you start to feel a little sluggish. 00:06:02.16\00:06:04.33 Oh, absolutely, and you know, that popcorn 00:06:04.34\00:06:06.90 and you say butter, that's additional butter 00:06:06.91\00:06:09.21 because they pop it in butter or an oil. 00:06:09.22\00:06:11.31 Oh, yes. 00:06:11.32\00:06:12.29 So, you don't have to ask for butter to have butter. 00:06:12.30\00:06:14.53 It's on there... That's right, that's right. 00:06:14.54\00:06:16.10 So, absolutely. 00:06:16.11\00:06:17.29 So I've recommitted to myself and so far, 00:06:17.30\00:06:24.03 since I've committed, that's been like 12 days. 00:06:24.04\00:06:28.35 I've lost five pounds and I'm going to get down 00:06:28.36\00:06:32.95 to where my weight is perfect according to the BMI index. 00:06:32.96\00:06:38.82 And so I understand what you've just been through 00:06:38.83\00:06:42.68 and like our viewers to know 00:06:42.69\00:06:45.26 that there is no cheating in this. 00:06:45.27\00:06:47.34 No, there is no cheating. You just got commit to a 100%. 00:06:47.35\00:06:50.12 And you know, you can fool everybody else, 00:06:50.13\00:06:51.95 but you can't fool yourself. 00:06:51.96\00:06:53.10 That's right. You know, I mean, 00:06:53.11\00:06:54.47 you can play games with yourself, 00:06:54.48\00:06:55.88 but now I'm thoroughly convinced 00:06:55.89\00:06:58.50 and it's really, I'm fortunate 00:06:58.51\00:07:01.25 because I don't live too far away, you know, 00:07:01.26\00:07:03.07 couple of hours drive and I'm here. 00:07:03.08\00:07:04.65 Yes. And I plan to come back 00:07:04.66\00:07:07.68 as often as I can even, you know, 00:07:07.69\00:07:09.68 for three or four days at a time 00:07:09.69\00:07:11.62 just to be in the environment. 00:07:11.63\00:07:13.44 You know, because it's the tools 00:07:13.45\00:07:15.38 that they give you here. 00:07:15.39\00:07:16.56 Yes. And it's not only the natural remedies of, 00:07:16.57\00:07:23.59 you know, exercise and water and air and nutrition 00:07:23.60\00:07:27.70 and the vegan diet is a big thing. 00:07:27.71\00:07:30.20 But it's all the information they give you. 00:07:30.21\00:07:33.17 Yeah, now do you think you could have done this at home? 00:07:33.18\00:07:37.01 Never. Never, you know, 00:07:37.02\00:07:39.23 that's the couple of people and I too, 00:07:39.24\00:07:41.69 I just didn't have the strength to do, 00:07:41.70\00:07:43.65 and I didn't have the knowledge. 00:07:43.66\00:07:45.60 Even if I had read a book it wasn't inspiring enough. 00:07:45.61\00:07:48.89 None of us have the strength, Ron, 00:07:48.90\00:07:50.65 none of us have the strength. 00:07:50.66\00:07:51.93 Yes. It's only through the Lord that you can do this. 00:07:51.94\00:07:54.46 Amen. Absolutely no doubt. 00:07:54.47\00:07:57.02 Amen. Yeah. 00:07:57.03\00:07:58.49 You know, we're so blessed to be here, Bill. 00:07:58.50\00:08:01.00 Oh, absolutely. 00:08:01.01\00:08:01.98 And get this message that the Lord has given us 00:08:01.99\00:08:04.98 and He's here, He's had us upon this place 00:08:04.99\00:08:08.47 and we see time and time again, 00:08:08.48\00:08:11.16 people like yourself that are just, you know, 00:08:11.17\00:08:14.35 how much weight have you lost? 00:08:14.36\00:08:16.86 Well, I weighed 230 when I came the first time 00:08:16.87\00:08:19.38 and weighed myself this morning, I weigh 205. 00:08:19.39\00:08:22.38 So you've lost like 25 pounds and you want to be what 190? 00:08:22.39\00:08:28.33 190, you know what? According to the index, 00:08:28.34\00:08:31.61 I'm supposed to be at 187. 00:08:31.62\00:08:34.25 But it's a little bit, you know, for me I don't, 00:08:34.26\00:08:37.86 I can't see myself being that thin again. 00:08:37.87\00:08:39.94 The index says, I should weight 194 00:08:39.95\00:08:42.54 that's 6 more pounds, I don't know 00:08:42.55\00:08:44.79 where it's gonna come from, I'm feeling pretty lean. 00:08:44.80\00:08:48.00 But you look good, Bill. 00:08:48.01\00:08:49.31 I feel good too. I feel good. 00:08:49.32\00:08:51.19 I've much more energy and you know, 00:08:51.20\00:08:53.27 I have 75 employees and we've salons and spas. 00:08:53.28\00:08:58.80 Yes. And we're talking to a lot of people. 00:08:58.81\00:09:01.32 Constantly. Constantly, yeah, and I find that, 00:09:01.33\00:09:05.46 in terms of a witness, they see the change in you 00:09:05.47\00:09:09.52 and they're very curious as to what you're doing. 00:09:09.53\00:09:12.50 What are you doing? Yeah, what are you taking? 00:09:12.51\00:09:15.16 Yes. What are you taking? 00:09:15.17\00:09:16.55 What are you taking? 00:09:16.56\00:09:18.24 That's the thing, what are you taking? 00:09:18.25\00:09:19.43 Did you have a facelift? It just too simple. 00:09:19.44\00:09:22.45 Yeah, yeah. It's just too simple, yeah. 00:09:22.46\00:09:24.49 So maybe we can do a special event for your employees? 00:09:24.50\00:09:30.25 You know, I'd love that, 00:09:30.26\00:09:31.23 I've ask one of your speakers here at Weimar 00:09:31.24\00:09:34.63 to come down and talk to our staff and I've had 00:09:34.64\00:09:37.35 Dr. Lukens there before, we did a cancer event 00:09:37.36\00:09:41.13 for breast cancer at our spa 00:09:41.14\00:09:44.14 and we had him come down and talk to the people, so. 00:09:44.15\00:09:46.98 Well, you just give us a call 00:09:46.99\00:09:49.07 and we'll get our crew down there 00:09:49.08\00:09:50.83 where we have several presenters 00:09:50.84\00:09:52.64 that maybe can open the eyes of your employees that... 00:09:52.65\00:09:56.56 That would be great. Yeah. 00:09:56.57\00:09:57.64 That would be great. Yeah. 00:09:57.65\00:09:59.43 So, Bill, you know, my prayers 00:09:59.44\00:10:02.57 that you continue on this path, 00:10:02.58\00:10:05.10 I can see that you're committed 00:10:05.11\00:10:07.15 and I just bless you and bless your work 00:10:07.16\00:10:10.57 and the work that you and your wife have done 00:10:10.58\00:10:13.34 here at Weimar and continue to do today. 00:10:13.35\00:10:16.34 And I want to thank you for being on the set with us. 00:10:16.35\00:10:19.08 Thank you. And giving us your testimony. 00:10:19.09\00:10:20.64 It's been my pleasure. Thank you. 00:10:20.65\00:10:21.89 Yeah, God bless you. God bless you. 00:10:21.90\00:10:23.75 And, friends, don't go away we got 00:10:23.76\00:10:25.51 an important message for you. 00:10:25.52\00:10:28.27 Well, you've done very well. 00:10:28.28\00:10:29.64 Do you have diabetes, heart disease, 00:10:36.37\00:10:38.65 high blood pressure or do you weigh too much. 00:10:38.66\00:10:42.34 Hi, my name is Dr. Ing, and I'd like to tell you 00:10:42.35\00:10:44.91 about our 18-day NEWSTART Lifestyle program. 00:10:44.92\00:10:48.84 It includes a comprehensive medical evaluations, 00:10:48.85\00:10:51.64 laboratory studies and a exercise stress test, 00:10:51.65\00:10:55.29 physician consultations, culinary school 00:10:55.30\00:10:59.50 and an opportunity to walk on beautiful trials 00:10:59.51\00:11:02.49 in the foot hills of the Sierras. 00:11:02.50\00:11:04.70 Your health is one of the most important things 00:11:06.51\00:11:08.40 that you have, don't wait. 00:11:08.41\00:11:10.56 Give us a call at 800-525-9192 00:11:10.57\00:11:15.15 or visit our website newstart.com. 00:11:15.16\00:11:19.42 Welcome back, friends, and in our studio, 00:11:34.12\00:11:36.22 Dr. Rick Lukens, my good friend, how are you? 00:11:36.23\00:11:39.69 Thank you, thank you, this is a really, 00:11:39.70\00:11:43.04 really important one for Americans 00:11:43.05\00:11:45.64 and all the people that are on the Western diet. 00:11:45.65\00:11:48.83 Yeah, and I want to get right into it, 00:11:48.84\00:11:50.37 because you know, Bill is a good friend of mine 00:11:50.38\00:11:52.86 as I know, he's of yours for many years. 00:11:52.87\00:11:57.19 Yep. And he's been a good supporter 00:11:57.20\00:11:59.71 of our NEWSTART program here. 00:11:59.72\00:12:02.13 He's been through the program a couple of times 00:12:02.14\00:12:04.32 and he's heard these lectures 00:12:04.33\00:12:06.29 and you just heard him say, 00:12:06.30\00:12:08.32 well, this time he's into it a 100%. 00:12:08.33\00:12:12.48 Why are we and I'm put myself in the same category 00:12:12.49\00:12:17.03 because you and I talked two weeks ago. 00:12:17.04\00:12:19.65 Yep. And I recommitted myself a 100% 00:12:19.66\00:12:23.58 what does it take, why are we not willing 00:12:23.59\00:12:26.55 to do what it takes, a 100% right from the beginning? 00:12:26.56\00:12:32.92 Well, now you're talking about human nature 00:12:32.93\00:12:35.09 and stuff like that. 00:12:35.10\00:12:36.07 But I mean, everybody knows 00:12:36.08\00:12:37.94 that there is something in their life 00:12:37.95\00:12:39.79 and that's really, really tough 00:12:39.80\00:12:41.36 and appetite is one of the first ones. 00:12:41.37\00:12:44.28 But I think for that it takes a wake up call 00:12:44.29\00:12:47.85 and when I talked to him, back in October or November. 00:12:47.86\00:12:52.96 He was actually ready to go in 00:12:52.97\00:12:57.31 and they said we're going to put a catheter in 00:12:57.32\00:13:00.90 and it was in one of the fairly local hospitals. 00:13:00.91\00:13:04.85 They said, we don't do, 00:13:04.86\00:13:06.99 we don't do the intervention studies here 00:13:07.00\00:13:09.79 but we'll put a catheter in 00:13:09.80\00:13:10.95 and we'll suit some guy in 00:13:10.96\00:13:13.14 and then when we get that study done, 00:13:13.15\00:13:15.96 then we'll just put you in an ambulance if you need it. 00:13:15.97\00:13:20.62 And then we'll send you across the way 00:13:20.63\00:13:22.78 and they'll put a couple of stents in and bing bing, 00:13:22.79\00:13:25.26 boom boom and you're on your way. 00:13:25.27\00:13:27.51 But what if this stents didn't work. 00:13:27.52\00:13:29.34 Well, I see the thing is that he, 00:13:29.35\00:13:32.42 Dr. Ing has checked his carotids 00:13:32.43\00:13:34.58 and he's got a lot of plaque in one of the carotids 00:13:34.59\00:13:39.16 and so it starts out in the lower extremities 00:13:39.17\00:13:41.59 and works it's way up. 00:13:41.60\00:13:43.17 So if he's got it up here, he's got it in here. 00:13:43.18\00:13:46.53 And they all, they all thread that in 00:13:46.54\00:13:49.17 and they may stent those blockages, 00:13:49.18\00:13:52.93 but if they can't do it then they're obligated 00:13:52.94\00:13:56.17 to go to the next step 00:13:56.18\00:13:57.41 and that's to do open heart surgery. 00:13:57.42\00:14:00.07 And so he calls me up on the phone 00:14:00.08\00:14:02.78 and he said he was in the parking lot, 00:14:02.79\00:14:04.36 I'm not sure exactly the sequence. 00:14:04.37\00:14:07.12 But it's kind of like a last minute, 00:14:07.13\00:14:09.49 last stitch thing, what do I do? 00:14:09.50\00:14:12.66 And so, I said, man, you know what you need to do 00:14:12.67\00:14:18.51 and I talked to him through the years, 00:14:18.52\00:14:20.82 you know, and I didn't say Doc, 00:14:20.83\00:14:21.90 you know, I wanted, I think two years ago 00:14:21.91\00:14:24.00 about two years ago. 00:14:24.01\00:14:25.67 He said I'm gonna do it and he did and he started, 00:14:25.68\00:14:28.66 but then he started losing a lot of weight. 00:14:28.67\00:14:31.61 You know, he's in the fashion business 00:14:31.62\00:14:34.07 and a big business man and stuff like that 00:14:34.08\00:14:36.78 and when you lose too much then you look older, 00:14:36.79\00:14:42.14 more mature so that, 00:14:42.15\00:14:44.55 that that's where you're going, you see. 00:14:44.56\00:14:46.09 Here are the key presentors. 00:14:46.10\00:14:47.17 Yeah, and so they know, you know, 00:14:47.18\00:14:48.90 that's really absolutely true. 00:14:48.91\00:14:50.50 It's true. And I struggle with that 00:14:50.51\00:14:52.74 for years after I came here, 00:14:52.75\00:14:54.11 you know, because anyway that's another story, 00:14:54.12\00:14:57.54 but none us like older before our time. 00:14:57.55\00:15:01.13 But the thing is, is that our arteries 00:15:01.14\00:15:03.50 and our heart and other places in our body, 00:15:03.51\00:15:06.40 they know how old we are. 00:15:06.41\00:15:07.85 Well, you know I want to you tell you 00:15:07.86\00:15:09.38 what Dr. Ing told me when I said, 00:15:09.39\00:15:11.33 you know some of my friends are telling me 00:15:11.34\00:15:13.65 I'm looking little too lean. 00:15:13.66\00:15:15.42 He says, well do you want to look good for your friends 00:15:15.43\00:15:18.29 or do you want to be healthy? 00:15:18.30\00:15:19.89 I said, I want to be healthy, 00:15:19.90\00:15:21.69 he says, well then heck with, you know, 00:15:21.70\00:15:23.63 he said in so many words. 00:15:23.64\00:15:25.51 So, you know, here I am, I'm on board, 00:15:25.52\00:15:28.74 I'm a 100%, I've got six pounds 00:15:28.75\00:15:31.30 and my BMI is in check 00:15:31.31\00:15:33.56 and then the next blood draw you do, 00:15:33.57\00:15:35.60 I know I'm going to be okay. Is that right? 00:15:35.61\00:15:38.32 Yeah, that great, see because Bill said 00:15:38.33\00:15:41.17 that his cholesterol was well above 200. 00:15:41.18\00:15:45.03 Yes. The total, and then when he came in here 00:15:45.04\00:15:51.23 for the full program and you know, 00:15:51.24\00:15:54.73 he's being on the periphery all this time, 00:15:54.74\00:15:56.82 he came in for the full program. 00:15:56.83\00:15:59.04 And his cholesterol was closed to 200, 00:15:59.05\00:16:01.73 so that was better, 00:16:01.74\00:16:03.12 but when he left his cholesterol was under a 150. 00:16:03.13\00:16:08.18 Isn't that amazing. Yeah, that's wonderful 00:16:08.19\00:16:10.92 and the thing is that the viewers out there, 00:16:10.93\00:16:14.09 most of them have heard of President Clinton 00:16:14.10\00:16:18.52 and his interview with Dr. Esselstyn. 00:16:18.53\00:16:23.04 And Esselstyn is the one that 00:16:23.05\00:16:24.60 did the prospective landmark study 00:16:24.61\00:16:27.16 and he followed the people in there, 00:16:27.17\00:16:28.78 there wasn't any, you know there wasn't 00:16:28.79\00:16:31.52 any fooling around, there wasn't any glitches. 00:16:31.53\00:16:34.51 They kept going in there and getting their blood drawn, 00:16:34.52\00:16:37.63 some of them every two weeks 00:16:37.64\00:16:39.57 and he just kept checking and checking and checking 00:16:39.58\00:16:41.84 and he's said, look you guys, 00:16:41.85\00:16:43.93 if you're going to do this, their cholesterol, 00:16:43.94\00:16:45.94 it was an easy number to remember 246, 00:16:45.95\00:16:49.47 two hundred and forty six average, 00:16:49.48\00:16:52.40 their average age 57. 00:16:52.41\00:16:55.53 During that time some of them had four coronary events 00:16:55.54\00:16:58.92 of some types or another. 00:16:58.93\00:17:01.18 And during that time their cholesterol, 00:17:01.19\00:17:04.25 everybody went below 130 00:17:04.26\00:17:06.50 and their average cholesterol was 132 00:17:06.51\00:17:11.04 and here the 17 of them that stayed on it, 00:17:11.05\00:17:14.15 12 years later they get together for a reunion 00:17:14.16\00:17:20.98 and all the wonderful camaraderie 00:17:20.99\00:17:23.47 and everything, and talk about how they enjoyed 00:17:23.48\00:17:25.84 those last 12 years. Now their age 69, 00:17:25.85\00:17:29.22 that's not a bad deal for 57 year old cardiac cripples. 00:17:29.23\00:17:33.79 So people know of vessels, they know of arteries, 00:17:33.80\00:17:36.53 they know of these other ones that are doing these things. 00:17:36.54\00:17:40.48 But Esselstyn is one that had the best track record 00:17:40.49\00:17:44.46 and he is the one that wants people to go totally, 00:17:44.47\00:17:47.39 totally vegan and no added oil whatsoever. 00:17:47.40\00:17:51.59 And you know, he's from Cleveland Clinic. 00:17:51.60\00:17:54.15 And he has friends and acquaintances 00:17:54.16\00:17:57.07 in high places in the government 00:17:57.08\00:17:59.19 and he says, you do it and it works. 00:17:59.20\00:18:02.55 Well, let me. You don't do it. 00:18:02.56\00:18:04.31 Let me ask you this, we've got 3 doctors 00:18:04.32\00:18:08.31 that are on staff here at the NEWSTART Program. 00:18:08.32\00:18:12.51 What do the three doctors say, they're here, 00:18:12.52\00:18:15.66 are they in alignment with Esselstyn? 00:18:15.67\00:18:18.47 Yeah, everybody has to be at least 00:18:18.48\00:18:21.45 giving lip service to Esselstyn, 00:18:21.46\00:18:23.10 no matter where you are. 00:18:23.11\00:18:24.80 I've talked to cardiologist and they're excited, 00:18:24.81\00:18:27.95 they say, you know, when they get out of their residency, 00:18:27.96\00:18:30.86 they're excited they're going to go out 00:18:30.87\00:18:32.04 and change the world. 00:18:32.05\00:18:33.02 They're going to do all these preventive things 00:18:33.03\00:18:34.78 and nobody will listen. 00:18:34.79\00:18:37.01 See I don't want to tell him that 00:18:37.02\00:18:38.40 when he was in the parking lot or wherever he was, 00:18:38.41\00:18:40.84 but I knew that if these things didn't go well, 00:18:40.85\00:18:44.08 he was going to have to have open heart surgery. 00:18:44.09\00:18:47.19 Well, we know, Bill. 00:18:47.20\00:18:48.17 And if he had the open surgery, he's an avid golfer, 00:18:48.18\00:18:51.23 he wouldn't be able to swing that club for a while. 00:18:51.24\00:18:53.27 For quite a while, over 6 months for me. 00:18:53.28\00:18:56.39 We know Bill's in a right track, 00:18:56.40\00:18:58.01 we can see that, we heard his testimony, 00:18:58.02\00:19:01.39 he's gonna do fine. 00:19:01.40\00:19:03.17 There are people out there watching 00:19:03.18\00:19:04.82 this program right now Doc, 00:19:04.83\00:19:06.67 that needs to hear from you, 00:19:06.68\00:19:08.93 they need to hear from me 00:19:08.94\00:19:11.02 what they need to do starting right today. 00:19:11.03\00:19:13.88 What's the best thing born on, 00:19:13.89\00:19:16.41 the best thing a 100%, they can start now. 00:19:16.42\00:19:20.10 Okay, fix all your food from just a plant based source. 00:19:20.11\00:19:25.26 When you are cooking don't have any free oily fat 00:19:25.27\00:19:29.49 anywhere in your house so can't add to it. 00:19:29.50\00:19:32.40 Now, and people say you know doc, 00:19:32.41\00:19:35.04 you're a little bit hard on us. 00:19:35.05\00:19:36.54 Because we need a little bit on our salad, 00:19:36.55\00:19:38.72 we need whatever but you can do it. 00:19:38.73\00:19:40.67 And do it in a smaller step, like I say okay. 00:19:40.68\00:19:43.61 Here is a start of a new month, 00:19:43.62\00:19:45.79 I'll do this a 100% for four weeks 00:19:45.80\00:19:49.56 and I'll see if I can do it. Right. 00:19:49.57\00:19:51.62 And then after that and you know, 00:19:51.63\00:19:53.32 it just keep trying it. 00:19:53.33\00:19:55.48 Some people don't have to be that careful 00:19:55.49\00:19:58.36 but most people do and to reverse this severe disease 00:19:58.37\00:20:02.14 and stop the angina and do all these kind of things, 00:20:02.15\00:20:05.35 when you do it, it works. 00:20:05.36\00:20:07.29 Okay that one thing what number two on your list? 00:20:07.30\00:20:11.19 No you've got to do the exercise. 00:20:11.20\00:20:12.99 Okay, but I don't want to leave that out. 00:20:13.00\00:20:15.05 Because we know... 00:20:15.06\00:20:16.03 Okay, and exercise is most important, 00:20:16.04\00:20:18.08 because you lose weight, when you lose weight 00:20:18.09\00:20:21.01 when your exercise your HDL goes up, 00:20:21.02\00:20:23.40 helps take the cholesterol out of arteries. 00:20:23.41\00:20:25.89 When you lose weight, your LDL is going to go down. 00:20:25.90\00:20:29.27 And then your exercise has got to be part of it. 00:20:29.28\00:20:33.91 So start out do whatever you can. 00:20:33.92\00:20:36.00 So food and exercise. Exercise and then food. 00:20:36.01\00:20:39.99 And those are the two things. 00:20:40.00\00:20:41.46 Exercise will give you the courage to do it. 00:20:41.47\00:20:43.93 Hey, you know, two weeks ago I couldn't walk at all 00:20:43.94\00:20:47.02 and now I'm doing you know whatever, 00:20:47.03\00:20:49.10 this is exciting, I'm gonna do the diet part too. 00:20:49.11\00:20:51.93 You're exciting me and I'm no more excited again. 00:20:51.94\00:20:55.07 Doc I want to just thank you, God bless you in your work. 00:20:55.08\00:20:58.39 The thing with the heart attack is half the time 00:20:58.40\00:21:01.68 you don't get to every say goodbye. 00:21:01.69\00:21:04.06 Yeah, speaking of goodbyes, we run out of time 00:21:04.07\00:21:07.39 and I need to say goodbye, 00:21:07.40\00:21:08.61 but don't go away, we got a tip for you. 00:21:08.62\00:21:10.30 Hello, I'm Dr. David DeRose. 00:21:11.75\00:21:14.34 You know, helping a friend, neighbor or relative 00:21:14.35\00:21:16.84 have better health is one of the most practical 00:21:16.85\00:21:19.14 forms of health ministry available. 00:21:19.15\00:21:21.72 However, if you're not a health professional, 00:21:21.73\00:21:23.58 it can be extremely difficult to know 00:21:23.59\00:21:25.45 how to help someone access reliable, 00:21:25.46\00:21:27.81 credible, up to date health information. 00:21:27.82\00:21:31.17 That's why I recommend the NEWSTART Lifestyle Club 00:21:31.18\00:21:34.47 the club is based on the world's famous 00:21:34.48\00:21:36.27 NEWSTART principles that have helped 00:21:36.28\00:21:38.12 millions be well naturally without the use of drugs. 00:21:38.13\00:21:41.37 The club offers streaming video, expert health advice, 00:21:41.38\00:21:44.32 wellness tips, tools and more. 00:21:44.33\00:21:46.94 And when it comes to ministry, 00:21:46.95\00:21:48.55 the NEWSTART Lifestyle Club provides a way 00:21:48.56\00:21:50.59 for sponsor churches and health organizations 00:21:50.60\00:21:53.16 that connect with club members in their own communities. 00:21:53.17\00:21:57.11 If you would like to learn more about 00:21:57.12\00:21:58.42 how the NEWSTART Lifestyle Club 00:21:58.43\00:22:00.13 can make a difference in your health outreach, 00:22:00.14\00:22:02.38 call 1800-525-9192 00:22:02.39\00:22:06.78 and ask for your free copy 00:22:06.79\00:22:08.30 of Health Evangelism Made Simple. 00:22:08.31\00:22:11.24 Hello and welcome to NEWSTART at home, 00:22:28.36\00:22:29.70 I'm your host, Don Mackintosh, 00:22:29.71\00:22:30.94 we're glad you're with us. 00:22:30.95\00:22:32.49 And we are also glad that we have Dr. Doug Plata, 00:22:32.50\00:22:35.40 with us today. Welcome, doctor. 00:22:35.41\00:22:36.94 Appreciate it. You're a specialist in family practice 00:22:36.95\00:22:40.58 but also preventive medicine. That's right. 00:22:40.59\00:22:42.74 And as we were talking, 00:22:42.75\00:22:44.22 you said one of the most important things 00:22:44.23\00:22:45.70 for people to do is to have a consistent exercise program. 00:22:45.71\00:22:49.60 Why is that, how can we get it started. 00:22:49.61\00:22:51.38 How can we make it stick? 00:22:51.39\00:22:52.52 Well, there are so many benefits to exercise, 00:22:52.53\00:22:55.48 I mean, it's one of the most powerful medicines 00:22:55.49\00:22:57.88 that we have and it's important for heart heath 00:22:57.89\00:23:01.22 and so many different things even depression. 00:23:01.23\00:23:04.21 So, and the other question was how... 00:23:04.22\00:23:06.11 How do we get it started and how do we make it stick? 00:23:06.12\00:23:08.33 You know, I think most people it's common sense 00:23:08.34\00:23:11.28 that we all need to be exercising on a regular basis, 00:23:11.29\00:23:14.36 especially aerobic exercise or walking, 00:23:14.37\00:23:16.86 running, cycling these sorts of things. 00:23:16.87\00:23:19.52 In terms of how to make it you know, 00:23:19.53\00:23:21.52 well, how to get started, what I would recommend 00:23:21.53\00:23:25.28 is that people try to find something 00:23:25.29\00:23:27.13 that they think, that they're gonna stick with it. 00:23:27.14\00:23:29.39 And for me that is something that is enjoyable. 00:23:29.40\00:23:32.41 There is nothing like, oh, I have to get up 00:23:32.42\00:23:34.25 and I have to walk or jog or something like this. 00:23:34.26\00:23:37.00 And if you don't like doing that, 00:23:37.01\00:23:37.98 it's going to be very difficult 00:23:37.99\00:23:39.13 to really keep doing that, you know, month after month, 00:23:39.14\00:23:42.20 year after year like in fact we need to do. 00:23:42.21\00:23:44.22 So what I recommend is try to make it in someway enjoyable 00:23:44.23\00:23:48.63 so that something you will be looking forward to. 00:23:48.64\00:23:51.60 So what do you do personally? 00:23:51.61\00:23:52.64 What do you look forward to in terms of exercise? 00:23:52.65\00:23:54.48 Well, I found it for me, I found it 00:23:54.49\00:23:56.66 and that is for me is cycling. 00:23:56.67\00:23:58.28 Now being in preventive medicine, 00:23:58.29\00:24:00.16 I actually looked in literature 00:24:00.17\00:24:01.48 and say how safe is this. 00:24:01.49\00:24:03.25 And unfortunately cycling is not 00:24:03.26\00:24:04.52 the one of the safest things, 00:24:04.53\00:24:05.77 but for me it's one of the most enjoyable things. 00:24:05.78\00:24:08.80 So I did buy a bicycle and I got routes 00:24:08.81\00:24:13.36 on the street that was safe. 00:24:13.37\00:24:15.70 You know very little traffic and I just went out cycle, 00:24:15.71\00:24:18.53 I'm very cautious about it, 00:24:18.54\00:24:19.73 because I'm out there to get exercising and for my health. 00:24:19.74\00:24:23.39 And obviously injury is not at all helpful. 00:24:23.40\00:24:25.56 Right, so walking? 00:24:25.57\00:24:27.82 Walking is one of the best, 00:24:27.83\00:24:30.47 if there are something that you enjoy doing, 00:24:30.48\00:24:32.46 walking is, it's relatively safe, it's not pounding, 00:24:32.47\00:24:36.10 it's not damaging to the knees 00:24:36.11\00:24:39.34 and it's something that anybody can do, 00:24:39.35\00:24:41.09 I mean, what you need to walk, you need a pair of shoes, 00:24:41.10\00:24:44.28 you know, in a safe place. 00:24:44.29\00:24:45.81 So what about, you know, one of my problem 00:24:45.82\00:24:48.59 just a little confession here that, 00:24:48.60\00:24:50.01 when I was growing up, most of my exercises 00:24:50.02\00:24:53.30 related to sports or activities 00:24:53.31\00:24:55.53 where they were other people involved. 00:24:55.54\00:24:58.13 Right. And then when you certain get 00:24:58.14\00:25:00.26 to certain stage on life, sometimes you don't have, 00:25:00.27\00:25:02.88 well, you know, I'm not saying I don't have friends. 00:25:02.89\00:25:05.23 But you don't have to have that same setup. 00:25:05.24\00:25:07.98 Right. And what would you say 00:25:07.99\00:25:10.26 to someone like me or people like you. 00:25:10.27\00:25:12.74 Like you, sure. I think the social dimension 00:25:12.75\00:25:16.27 to exercise can be very important 00:25:16.28\00:25:19.04 as a motivating factor. 00:25:19.05\00:25:20.94 If you know that somebody else is expecting 00:25:20.95\00:25:23.05 to meet you at 8 in the morning. 00:25:23.06\00:25:25.00 Are you going to get out of the bed and go, 00:25:25.01\00:25:26.53 yes, you will, where as if you don't 00:25:26.54\00:25:28.38 have an exercise partner. 00:25:28.39\00:25:30.04 So a good friend, you can, you know, 00:25:30.05\00:25:32.36 have a lot of fun talking to them 00:25:32.37\00:25:33.86 and I think that's a very important thing. 00:25:33.87\00:25:36.58 Studies show actually, if you have an exercise partner, 00:25:36.59\00:25:38.57 you're more likely to be consistent with an exercise. 00:25:38.58\00:25:41.65 What about a dog? 00:25:41.66\00:25:42.63 I was gonna mention a dog. 00:25:42.64\00:25:45.06 A dog is great, I think it's also a wonderful thing 00:25:45.07\00:25:49.92 and you know what dog's need to be walked, 00:25:49.93\00:25:52.09 so you feel some sort of obligation to make sure 00:25:52.10\00:25:54.35 that you walk the dog. Just be careful, 00:25:54.36\00:25:57.59 I know, you should jog with dog 00:25:57.60\00:25:59.61 and it would like to run with me, 00:25:59.62\00:26:01.46 and of course, that was very dangerous. 00:26:01.47\00:26:02.67 Yeah, I remember working in the ER once 00:26:02.68\00:26:04.47 and this lady had a huge Great Dane. 00:26:04.48\00:26:07.79 A Great Dane, very large and I will just say, 00:26:07.80\00:26:12.28 make sure you have a short leash. 00:26:12.29\00:26:13.98 This dog had a big long leash 00:26:13.99\00:26:15.86 and lady did not see that the dog is starting 00:26:15.87\00:26:17.91 to run and when she turn around 00:26:17.92\00:26:19.85 that it already built up steam and actually, 00:26:19.86\00:26:22.62 you know, she fell over and dug her around the road. 00:26:22.63\00:26:25.53 Whose is walking who? 00:26:25.54\00:26:26.51 Exactly and that already, it's funny at all, 00:26:26.52\00:26:29.12 she was really injured. 00:26:29.13\00:26:30.14 So just be careful with the dogs. 00:26:30.15\00:26:31.72 But so, start it and then stick 00:26:31.73\00:26:34.16 with it with the social things 00:26:34.17\00:26:35.71 and with maybe a pat anything else. 00:26:35.72\00:26:38.63 Yeah, let me mention about safety. 00:26:38.64\00:26:41.69 And that is some people, you know, 00:26:41.70\00:26:43.99 you live in a neighborhood or maybe you don't feel safe, 00:26:44.00\00:26:46.94 you know, walking around the neighborhood 00:26:46.95\00:26:50.14 and in that sort of situation if you're walking 00:26:50.15\00:26:52.61 with a partner of course, you feel a lot more safe. 00:26:52.62\00:26:55.36 But also there are often times at malls there is you know, 00:26:55.37\00:26:59.49 walking groups that you can find out about 00:26:59.50\00:27:03.42 and if the weather is inclement. 00:27:03.43\00:27:05.88 It's raining or something like that, 00:27:05.89\00:27:07.18 again malls are a good place too. 00:27:07.19\00:27:09.04 Pool, swimming. Swimming pools another good form of exercise 00:27:09.05\00:27:12.42 not so good in terms of building up strong bones 00:27:12.43\00:27:14.79 but aerobically very good. 00:27:14.80\00:27:16.98 We've been talking to Dr. Doug Plata, 00:27:16.99\00:27:18.95 we've been talking about exercise, 00:27:18.96\00:27:20.61 you need to start and stick with it. 00:27:20.62\00:27:22.89 And we have some very practical ideas 00:27:22.90\00:27:24.58 how to do that. Thank you for joining us 00:27:24.59\00:27:26.88 on NEWSTART at home but get out of your home 00:27:26.89\00:27:28.76 and exercise today. 00:27:28.77\00:27:30.77 And thank you, Doctor, for being with us, 00:27:30.78\00:27:32.54 we can find more information about this 00:27:32.55\00:27:34.53 or other subjects at newstartclub.com, 00:27:34.54\00:27:37.71 that's newstartclub.com. 00:27:37.72\00:27:39.27 Tell your friends about it, 00:27:39.28\00:27:40.38 we're glad you joined us today. 00:27:40.39\00:27:41.84 Well, friends, that's it for today. 00:27:48.35\00:27:50.92 Those of you have listened to this testimony 00:27:50.93\00:27:53.11 by Bill Hoshall. I know, you're thinking, 00:27:53.12\00:27:55.79 well, can this happen for me if I go to NEWSTART? 00:27:55.80\00:27:58.75 Well, pick up the phone and call us at 800-525-9192. 00:27:58.76\00:28:05.89 God bless you, have a great day. 00:28:05.90\00:28:07.87