Participants: Ron Giannoni (Host), Angelina Harrison
Series Code: NSN
Program Code: NSN000075
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00:23 Hi friends, and welcome to another edition of NEWSTART
00:27 Now. We have in our studio today, Angelina Harrison 00:31 from Oakdale, California. 00:33 Angelina came to us a couple of weeks ago 00:37 with different types of ailments and diseases that 00:40 we're going to let her explain what happened in just a moment 00:43 after we watch when she first arrived. 00:47 I have sugar diabetes 00:50 and I also have high blood pressure. 00:55 As you know diabetes will cause 00:59 illness through your whole body. 01:02 I picked the NEWSTART program because 01:07 my friends talked about it 01:10 but when I saw it on 3ABN 01:12 I knew that that was the place for me 01:15 to go and get help. 01:17 Before I leave 01:19 to go home 01:20 I want to be healthy 01:22 I want to get off of the medications that I am on. 01:28 I am tired of having to get up 01:31 every day and having to the same thing, 01:34 test my blood, my blood pressure, 01:36 and take the pills. 01:38 Because every pill that you take will have side effects. 01:44 And I have had a lot of those side effects 01:46 in my lifetime and I'm tired of it. 01:52 Welcome back friends, 01:53 and I'm sure there are many of you watching 01:55 that can relate to Angelina's story. 01:58 So let me introduce, Angelina Harrison. 02:01 Thank you so much for being here. 02:04 Now I know you're a little nervous 02:05 so we've got to get over that 02:06 and we're going to let you say a few words about 02:09 where you're from and how you ended up in Oakdale, CA. 02:12 Well when I was nine years old 02:14 I was sent there by train to stay with my godparents 02:19 and that's where I was raised and where I met my husband. 02:22 Okay. 02:24 And you've been there ever since? 02:25 Yes. 02:27 Wow. 02:28 So you said in our first interview 02:32 that you want to get off your medication 02:35 and you want to feel better. Tell us what has happened. 02:39 Are you taking any medication now? 02:41 No, the first day that I went to see my doctor 02:45 he took me off of all my diabetic medications 02:51 and he also took me off of the cholesterol medication 02:55 and I havn't taken one pill since I came here. 02:58 Great! How about high blood pressure? 03:00 I am still dealing with high blood pressure 03:03 but I know that if I stay on this program 03:06 that it is going to work because 03:07 it has worked for the others too. 03:11 Now what is your blood pressure? Do you mind me asking? 03:13 Well my blood pressure for some reason 03:16 was running 180 over 80 03:19 and it has come down to about 140. 03:25 So I'm happy with that. 03:27 Good, so 140 over 80, or? 03:29 Over 60. 03:30 Over 60! 03:31 Well that's fantastic! You're making some changes here. 03:34 Yes. 03:36 Tell us about anything else. 03:38 It looks like you've lost some weight. 03:40 I've lost some weight 03:42 and I didn't lose that much but 03:44 I'm happy with what I have lost. 03:47 And I think that if I had stayed home 03:49 I could've gained that much weight. 03:52 So I'm really glad that I did come. 03:55 Well I happen to know that you lost a little over 9 lbs. 03:58 Yes. 03:59 The next time you're in the grocery store 04:01 pick up a ten pound bag of potatoes 04:04 and lift it up. That's how much weight you lost. 04:07 Oh wow, I didn't think of that. 04:08 That's significant. 04:10 That is a really good job. 04:12 Thank you. 04:14 Has the program met your expectations? 04:18 Yes. 04:20 I was happy with everything they present here and offer. 04:24 And everybody here was so helpful 04:27 in every way, even through prayer. 04:31 That really meant a lot to me. 04:33 If you have something going on 04:37 the nurses will take time and pray with you. 04:40 And that's really... 04:42 Isn't that wonderful? 04:43 Yes. 04:44 So what about your walking, are you walking okay now? 04:47 Yes I am. When I was home I was a couch potato. 04:51 And I hadn't walked for nine months 04:54 because I had fallen down. 04:56 And when I came here it was the 04:58 first time I had walked since then. 05:00 And I was surprised that 05:02 I have been able to walk like I have. 05:05 What have you been walking now? 05:07 I've been walking on the half mile loop 05:11 and I think he averaged me at 2 miles a day. 05:16 So you went from not walking at all 05:18 to 2 miles a day. 05:19 Yes. 05:21 That's a big change. 05:22 Good for you. 05:24 The Lord is wonderful and 05:26 it's really obvious that his hands are out here 05:29 working with the guests and you're a 05:31 prime example you look so nice today! 05:33 Thank you very much. 05:35 You look different. 05:36 I hope so! 05:37 You look more at peace. 05:40 Your doctor is Dr. David DeRose, is that correct? 05:43 Yes. 05:46 You've spent a lot of time with him I presume? 05:48 Yes I did. 05:49 And did you have enough time with him... 05:51 Oh, yes! 05:52 to talk about your ailments and such? 05:54 Yes. 05:55 He was very understanding 05:57 he took time to explain things to me. 06:00 I don't get that when I go to my regular doctors. 06:04 I go in and all they do is sit at their computer and say "okay 06:07 if this medicine doesn't work 06:09 I'm going to give you another one." 06:11 and he didn't do that. When the session was 06:16 over he would take time and always pray with me. 06:18 Do you find that unusual, 06:19 that a doctor would sit and pray with you? 06:22 Yes, because all the other doctors 06:23 I've been to in my lifetime nobody has ever done that. 06:28 I already knew the answer, that wasn't fair. 06:30 I kind of set you up there. 06:31 Yeah. 06:33 I thought the same thing when I came here. 06:35 I thought it was just wonderful 06:37 that a doctor would take his time not only to be with me 06:42 and discuss my problems but help me to correct them. 06:46 By the way when you went in to see your doctor 06:49 did he go for a walk with you? 06:53 I believe so... Yes I'm sure he did. 06:59 And while you are walking he is observing 07:03 if you are capable of certain 07:04 strides and speeds and all of that. 07:08 That's wonderful. 07:10 At first when I started walking I 07:11 couldn't walk and talk at the same time 07:13 because I would run out of breath. 07:15 But now I'm able to. 07:17 So you can walk and talk now. 07:19 What about cooking, have you learned anything about cooking? 07:21 Oh, yes! 07:23 You learn so many things. 07:27 Because of being a diabetic we made our own ice cream 07:29 twice while we were here. 07:31 It was delicious. 07:32 And what did you make it from? 07:36 Oh, what did we use? 07:38 Nuts and not soy milk 07:42 I forget what it was, 07:44 some kind of nector for the sweetener. 07:47 And different, not spices but 07:54 vanilla, things like vanilla. 07:55 Yes. 07:57 And it was delicious. 07:58 But you got the recipe with you 08:00 I got the recipe now. 08:02 So you can make it for the family. 08:04 When you get back home is 08:06 everyone at home going to be vegan? 08:08 Oh, my husband is vegan. 08:09 He already is? 08:10 Oh! 08:12 This will be great for both you to come together! 08:16 Because he will be a big help to me to keep me on track. 08:19 Absolutely. 08:21 Did you get a chance to visit with Viola? 08:24 Oh, yes! 08:25 Our chaplain. 08:26 Was she a help to you? 08:28 Oh yes, very much so! She's a 08:29 beautiful lady and she takes time with you. 08:33 and listens to what you have to say to her. 08:35 Yeah. 08:37 And you had an exersize 08:38 therapist you spent time with, Rich. 08:40 Yes. 08:42 Did you learn about exercise and what is good? 08:45 Yes I did. 08:46 Yes I did. 08:48 So have you gotten a program you can take home with you? 08:49 Yeah, I went in yesterday for my appointment with him 08:52 and he wrote out everything I should do at home. 08:55 So that was good. 08:56 So aside from walking he's recommended that you do some 09:01 other exersizes. Weight bearing perhaps? 09:04 Yeah, stretching exersizes 09:07 and I had a hard time balancing 09:10 standing on one foot but he showed me how to do it. 09:13 And now you can do it. 09:14 Now I can do it. 09:16 What about the message and hydrotherapy? 09:18 Oh, I think that's my favorite! 09:20 Well, second favorite maybe. 09:21 We saved that for last, right! 09:23 What's first, food? 09:26 No... 09:28 Just the whole atmosphere 09:32 how the people treat you here 09:34 it's just beautiful. 09:36 Good. 09:37 I'm so happy you got an opportunity to come here. 09:41 And I'm excited for when you get home 09:44 to work with your husband on this 09:46 new lifestyle. 09:47 And Angelina I want to thank you for joining us here. 09:50 Well thank you. 09:51 May God bless you. 09:53 Thank you so much, God bless you too. 09:54 We'll be in touch. 09:55 And folks thank you but don't go away! 09:57 We have a tip for you and then Dr. David DeRose! 10:02 Well you've done very well. 10:10 Do you have diabetes, heart disease, 10:12 high blood pressure or do you weigh too much? 10:16 Hi, My name is Doctor Ing and I'd like to tell you about 10:19 our 18 day NEWSTART lifestyle program. 10:23 It includes a comprehensive medical evaluation 10:25 with laboratory studies and a exercise stress test, 10:29 physician consolations, 10:31 culinary school, 10:33 and an opportunity to walk on beautiful trails 10:36 in the foothills of the sierras. 10:40 Your health is one of the most important things that you have. 10:43 Don't wait. Give us a call or visit our website. 11:08 Welcome back friends and as I promised Dr. David DeRose. 11:12 How are you, doctor? 11:13 Great! Good to be with you again, Ron. 11:15 It's always good to see you. 11:17 I wish we had a live audience because 11:19 I'd like them to bombard you with questions. 11:22 You have so much information. I love our interviews together! 11:26 It's always great to be with you Ron. 11:27 And you'll just have to bombard me with the questions 11:29 in abstentia for the audience, right? 11:32 Sounds good. 11:33 Let's start off with Angelina. 11:36 She came to us with in my mind some serious problems. 11:41 And we've seen some change in her in just 2 weeks. 11:45 It's always dramatic what happens in the NEWSTART program 11:47 when people get on the kind of 11:49 lifestyle that God designed for us to be on 11:51 We often see really tremendous results 11:54 and Angelina is just another example. 11:56 And a perfect example at that. 11:59 She was a little nervous during her interview as you could see. 12:02 And rightfully so we've got 12:04 the cameras and the bright lights 12:05 and such and she wasn't sure 12:07 about the questions I was going to ask. 12:09 But you heard what I asked her and 12:12 basically she's very pleased with the results. 12:16 But from a physician's point of view, 12:19 from your point of view, tell us what you saw happen here. 12:22 Well probably one of the most 12:23 exciting things has to do with diabetes 12:26 and Angelina like literally millions of Americans 12:29 was struggling with diabetes when she came here. 12:32 The common story that we hear from people Ron, 12:35 is more and more drugs. 12:36 The doctors just keep putting them on more things. 12:38 You heard Angelina. She shared that she came 12:41 here on two different medications for her diabetes. 12:44 What's remarkable is when you 12:45 look at her today, just 2 weeks later 12:48 she's off those drugs, 12:49 her blood sugars are significantly better 12:51 off the medications with the lifestyle changes 12:55 than they were when she was taking both drugs. 12:58 Yeah, so it's powerful. 12:59 One of the things that we did in Angelina's case 13:02 that a lot of doctors are 13:03 totally unaware of the power of is fasting. 13:06 So Angelina actually did a 13:08 medically supervised fast for several days 13:10 at the beginning of the program. 13:12 And this can be extremely powerful in 13:14 getting blood sugars back into line. 13:16 Wow, you know I haven't seen fasting as much 13:20 in years past as I'm currently seeing. 13:23 But I'm sure there's a lot of things 13:26 that you can bring to the table to help diabetics. 13:30 So, in regard to her changes 13:35 is it fair to say that it's typical? 13:39 Well, it's typical in the sense that 13:41 when people come here to the NEWSTART program 13:45 they're often on a poor lifestyle 13:47 and I'm not speaking about Angelina specifically 13:50 but in general people are not really on optimal program. 13:53 You heard her own admission that she was not walking. 13:56 I believe she herself a couch potato, right? 14:00 Right. 14:01 So, when a person comes here and you start 14:04 getting everything moving in the right direction 14:06 they don't have to learn how to cook on day one. 14:09 We start feeding them the best food for their condition 14:12 when they arrive, or they go on a short fast, 14:14 as was the case with Angelina. 14:16 And then you just start seeing things come together 14:19 they're getting off medications, they're feeling better 14:22 and instead of having a downward spiral 14:25 where one problem leads to something else 14:27 that complicates something else 14:29 you start getting things, compounded interest if you will, 14:33 in a beneficial direction 14:35 where improvements and exersize 14:37 allow you to improve the blood pressure, the diabetes, 14:40 the cholesterol, and that allows you 14:41 to decrease medications further. 14:44 And so when you get everything moving in the right direction 14:46 it's just extremely powerful 14:48 how God blesses these very simple things 14:50 that I like to remind people 14:52 are no more novel than the first couple chapters 14:54 of the book of Genesis. 14:56 That's true isn't it? 14:58 Tell us about fasting, is this something someone can do 15:02 in their own home? 15:04 Fasting in your own home is a dangerous proposition 15:08 especially if someone has diabetes or high blood pressure. 15:10 Because fasting is so powerful 15:13 it lowers the blood pressure and blood sugar. 15:15 If you don't have someone carefully monitoring you 15:17 and adjusting your medications 15:19 you can get into real serious problems. 15:21 Especially with the diuretics, the water pills, 15:24 and the blood sugar lowering pills. 15:26 So usually for a person has those kind of problems we say, 15:30 you want to be under a doctors direction. 15:32 And we're ideally set here 15:34 at the NEWSTART program to do that for people. 15:36 So, as they say, don't try this at home. 15:40 Yeah, typically if diabetes or 15:42 high blood pressure is the problem 15:43 you want to do it cautiously. 15:44 If you've got a doctor who says, 15:46 great go for it and makes some adjustments to your medications 15:50 that's acceptable. 15:52 But really the ideal setting for this is a controlled environment 15:56 like we have here. 15:57 Now what is it about fasting, 15:59 it's very intruging to me, I remember back 16:02 many years ago when I had done 16:05 certain types of fasts, water being one. 16:08 Brown rice was another. 16:11 And then carrot, beet, and celery were others. 16:14 What is it about these types of fasts, 16:16 is it the cleansing, 16:18 does it play a part in 16:22 eliminating toxins from the body? 16:24 What happens here? 16:26 Well probably the most powerful thing Ron 16:27 when it comes to diabetes, 16:29 because that's one of the things 16:30 we're talking about specifically, 16:32 is that high blood sugars in and of themselves 16:35 cause something in the body called glucotoxicity. 16:39 So it is a toxin, if you will, but the toxin is the high sugar. 16:43 Right. 16:44 And so when someone goes on a fast 16:46 this precipitously brings their blood sugar down 16:50 and what happens when the blood sugar is normalized 16:53 the pancreas starts to work better. 16:55 It produces insulin better. 16:57 And the tissues respond to insulin better. 17:00 Because this glucotoxicity 17:02 poisons the tissues it makes the 17:04 insulin resistance, so to speak, worse, 17:06 it causes insulin not to work so well. 17:08 And it also poisons the pancreas. 17:10 So the pancreas can't work as well. 17:12 So if we can get those blood sugars down very quickly 17:15 then everything just starts to work better. 17:18 So the whole natural program just works so much better 17:20 than if we kind of gradually eased into it. 17:25 Now you mentioned diabetes, 17:27 and how rampant it is in this country 17:29 How many diabetics are there in this country, 17:33 how many people will become diabetic who aren't currently, 17:38 and how many obese people do we have in this country? 17:41 Maybe you can answer those questions. 17:43 Yeah, 17:44 these statistics are like trying to hit a moving target. 17:47 But just to give you a 17:49 little idea of just how rapidly diabetes is escalating, 17:53 when I was doing diabetes lectures in the 1990's 17:56 the center for disease control 17:59 were telling us that we were 18:00 diagnosing about 800,000 people a year in the USA with diabetes. 18:05 In the early 1990's? 18:07 Yeah, in the 1990's. 18:09 Okay, today that figure is 1.6 million. 18:14 So it's doubled new cases every year. 18:17 So we've got a huge epidemic with diabetes. 18:20 And of course the biggest question for any individual 18:22 is not how many millions of people have it. 18:24 But whether they have it or not. 18:26 And I find a lot of people are 18:28 unaware of what their blood sugar is. 18:29 They just don't know. 18:31 They just don't know! 18:32 Why is this, they don't go to doctors? 18:33 Well Diabetes is what we often call a silent disease 18:37 at least early on. 18:38 You feel essentially normal, 18:40 maybe you're going to the bathroom a little bit more, 18:42 maybe you're a little bit more thirsty. 18:43 But unless the blood sugar is really out of whack 18:46 you probably feel pretty normal. 18:49 But people today are sometimes coming to the doctor, 18:51 it's happened to me, 18:53 I see people come without a diagnosis of diabetes 18:56 and they've already got diabetic complications. 18:59 They're having vision problems, 19:00 or their kidneys are being effected, 19:02 or their nerves are being effected. 19:04 So we encourage people, 19:06 especially if they have risk factors for diabetes, 19:08 if you're overweight, 19:09 if it runs in the family, 19:11 if you're in your 40's, or 50's, or beyond, and 19:13 you're not on a healthy program 19:15 find out what your fasting blood sugar is, at least. 19:18 Because the earlier you catch this 19:20 the more you can do about it and prevent the complications. 19:23 Yeah. 19:26 So, these people who are watching you right now, 19:30 what can they do to check their blood sugars, 19:33 where do they go, how do they find out? 19:35 Well a blood sugar check is very simple. 19:38 Actually all it involves is having your finger pricked 19:42 and just checking a quick blood sugar reading, 19:44 a nurse can do it, it can be done in a clinic, 19:47 it can probably be done in your doctor's own office. 19:51 And if you want a more precise reading, 19:53 if you've got any questions about the finger stick method, 19:56 just have a blood sugar test done. 19:59 They can draw blood from the vein 20:01 and it can be measured very precisely. 20:03 So Ron, it's not difficult, 20:04 whether it's the finger stick method, 20:06 or an actual blood draw. 20:07 But people can find out and they can know where they stand. 20:10 What about the Obesity? 20:12 That seems to be a common denominator. 20:14 It is. 20:15 It's a big problem. 20:17 There's three primary things that set the stage for diabetes 20:20 in America, at least the type 2 variety. 20:22 We use to call it adult onset diabetes. 20:25 But type 2 diabetes, basically the 20:27 three underlying factors are, inactivity, 20:30 overweight, 20:31 and poor dietary choices. 20:33 Those are the three big ones. 20:34 We rarely see type 2 diabetes in 20:37 someone who is thin and fit for example. 20:40 So for the viewers at home, we just have a few seconds left, 20:43 what can they do to get on track right now? 20:46 Basically, get serious about taking charge of your health. 20:50 Get on a good fitness program, talk with your doctor 20:52 if you've got any questions about the safety. 20:54 And start eating more plant foods. 20:55 They're the real winners when it comes to diabetes. 20:58 Dr. DeRose, thank you so much, 21:01 for coming on the set with us. 21:02 Great to be with you, Ron. 21:03 It's always a pleasure to have you. 21:05 And thank you, friends. 21:06 But don't go away because we have a tip for you 21:08 following this message. 21:12 Modern views of evolution stem all the way back 21:15 to theories developed in the mid-1800s. 21:18 Out of the same time period came ideas that shape 21:21 our educational system today. 21:24 The Common School Movement, for example, 21:26 saw schools more like a factory, 21:28 with students blindly memorizing instruction 21:31 rather than thinking for themselves. 21:34 Their curriculum was rigid and theoretical. 21:36 Instead of being flexible and practical, 21:39 it was designed to conform the individual 21:42 into a specific ideological mold 21:44 that fit the needs of an old industrial era 21:47 long since passed. 21:50 Just like our view of creation in six literal days, 21:53 we believe the Bible contains an educational blueprint 21:57 radically different from the one we see now. 22:26 Hello, and welcome to NEWSTART At Home. 22:28 I'm your host Don Mackintosh. 22:29 And today we have Dr. Doug Plata in the studio with us. 22:33 Welcome, Doctor. 22:34 Thank you. 22:35 You are a specialist in family and preventive medicine. 22:40 That's correct. 22:41 And one of the things we've been talking about is the 22:45 lack of hydration people have. 22:47 They're not drinking enough water. 22:49 Or maybe some people drink too much. 22:51 But we want to talk about water today. 22:53 How important is it? 22:54 It's extremely important. There's studies showing that 22:57 for heart health it's actually about as important as 23:01 many of the common treatments we have for heart disease. 23:05 By making sure you get an adequate 23:08 amount versus those who are on the low end, 23:10 the difference 23:11 means about a 50% reduction in the risk of 23:16 heart attack. 23:17 And that's probably because the 23:18 blood gets more viscous and more sticky 23:20 and maybe causes the coronary events? 23:22 We're not entirely sure but that's 23:24 probably at least part of the reason. 23:26 I'm guessing there's probably more parts to it. 23:29 So, what kind of water should we drink, just tap water, 23:32 or distilled water? 23:34 There's all kinds, when I go to the store I can spend 23:37 $1.72 for a bottle or, I don't know $1.00. 23:42 And then I can find this exotic water that's, 23:45 I'm not going to say $10.00 but 23:47 there's a big vast variation in price, 23:48 and they all have different labels, 23:50 how should I navigate that? 23:51 The first thing I'd like to point out is 23:54 that regardless of the type of the water, 23:55 getting enough water that's the #1 message, 23:58 first and foremost. 23:59 When it comes to the type of water 24:01 there have been a number of different 24:04 studies done on this and 24:07 again make sure you get enough water. 24:11 Probably one of the more unhealthy forms of water 24:14 is actually distilled water. 24:15 I know this is going to come as a 24:17 surprise and concern to some of the listeners. 24:21 But what distilled water does is it separates out the minerals 24:25 from the water and what we're finding out is 24:27 those minerals are there for a reason. 24:29 For particularly cardiac health. 24:31 So tap water is good after all? 24:34 It depends on the local environment. 24:37 For example if there are chemicals in the water. 24:39 I think many of us have chosen to go with 24:42 water that is from a natural source. 24:44 Mountain water. 24:46 And then what about filtered with charcoal? 24:48 It's probably better because it takes out 24:52 the chlorine and some of the other substances. 24:58 How much water should I drink? 24:59 I always hear 6 to 8 glasses is that valid, 25:03 or how do you tell? 25:05 The problem is people come in 25:07 different sizes they have different needs. 25:09 And if it's a hot day versus if you're exercising 25:12 6 to 8 glasses is maybe a good rule of thumb. 25:16 But I think a far better way is to actually let 25:19 your urine be the guide in how much you should get. 25:24 So my urine being the guide is sort of interesting. 25:28 I've never thought of being led around by my urine. 25:30 But what do you mean by letting the urine be the guide? 25:34 As you pee in the toilet and look at the color 25:40 it's pretty straight forward but it's 25:41 something we need to pay attention to, 25:44 if it's really dark yellow then we're not getting enough water. 25:48 If it's clear then we know we're doing a good job. 25:51 So it should be as close to clear as possible? 25:53 Really that's true. 25:55 And if you're seeing that it's not 25:57 you need to drink 2, 3, 4 more glasses? 26:00 Get more water. 26:01 But the problem is that urine comes at the end. 26:04 In other words it's what you should have been doing before. 26:06 So how can you make sure that you're getting enough? 26:09 What you can do is you can use the urine as a general guide. 26:11 And you would say, boy I'm just... 26:13 It's a reminder, I'm not getting enough water 26:14 so I need to do things to be able to help 26:17 get enough water, as evidenced by clear urine. 26:21 Okay, so I get my water bottle, 26:24 can the water be damaged at all by 26:25 sitting in a plastic bottle in the sun? 26:29 Tell us about that. 26:30 Yeah, there are significant concerns 26:32 about certain substances within plastics. 26:35 The harder the plastic the better. 26:37 For me I actually use a stainless steel container. 26:41 Or even a glass container is probably a safer 26:46 way to store water. 26:48 And if you have it in the sun, if it's in a plastic bottle, 26:51 it's probably not good 26:52 there are certain chemicals that can leach into the water. 26:54 But if it's in glass or something 26:58 that's not going to leach out that's better. 26:59 So the most important thing is, get water. 27:01 Yes. 27:02 And get enough water based on 27:04 6 to 8 glasses is the rule of thumb, but really, 27:06 look at your urine to see if it's clear or not. 27:09 Make sure you're getting the best 27:11 kind of container for your water. 27:14 So you don't have any chemical interaction. 27:16 But the bottom line is, make sure you get water. 27:19 You really need water. 27:20 It's really hard to over do it. 27:22 Put it on your desk, have it with you, carry it, 27:24 whatever you can do. 27:25 We've been talking with Dr. Doug Plata 27:27 and we're thankful that you came to be with us today. 27:30 And we're glad that you came to be with us as well. 27:32 If you want information about this or 27:34 other topics that are very practical and useful 27:37 go to our website. 27:42 And you can find this program and 27:44 many others thanks for joining us. 27:52 Well friends that's it for today. 27:54 Thank you for joining us and 27:56 thank you for your cards and letters 27:58 and your phone calls. 27:59 Pick up the phone and give us a call at: 28:05 Have a great day and God bless! |
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