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30 Year Diabetic; Now Free

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Participants: Ron Gianonni (Host), Dan Powell

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00:23 Hi friends, and welcome to another edition of NEWSTART Now!
00:27 In our studio with me is Dan Powell
00:30 from Yuma, Arizona.
00:32 And Dan came to us with a
00:34 series of problems.
00:36 And what I'd like to do is go to the clip when he first arrived.
00:41 I've been a diabetic since 1981
00:46 and my diabetes has gotten worse, and worse, and worse.
00:50 And I'm taking way too much insulin
00:53 and I needed something to help me get off this insulin.
00:58 Because it's a bad thing. I hate doing insulin.
01:02 So that's one of the main reasons I came here.
01:07 A lot of my friends at church
01:09 have been telling me to come here.
01:12 And here I am.
01:15 I have neuropathy and high blood pressure
01:19 and the neuropathy is going all
01:22 the way up to the back of my knee.
01:28 It's getting unbearable.
01:30 And I just can't do it anymore.
01:32 So that's why I've come to Weimar
01:33 Absolutely, what I'm trying to
01:36 achieve is to get rid of the insulin,
01:39 and to reverse my neuropathy,
01:41 and to go get my blood pressure down,
01:43 without having to take any pills.
01:48 Welcome back friends. And in our studio,
01:50 Dan, how are you my friend?
01:51 I'm wonderful, thank you.
01:53 You know, I remember a whole lot more that we talked about
01:56 since then and I'd like to address that right now.
02:01 You were on morphine?
02:04 I was taking a 12 hour time released morphine
02:07 for the pain in my hands and my legs.
02:10 So the neuropathy got so bad...
02:13 Now some of our viewers can relate to this.
02:16 We have many people out there
02:18 with diabetes, high blood pressure,
02:20 and neuropathy from the diabetes,
02:22 and they're on these pain killers.
02:24 But why morphine?
02:26 Well my doctor told me that for long
02:28 term it was the only thing I could do.
02:30 Okay.
02:32 And so, I've been doing it. I don't like it, but
02:38 now guess what?
02:40 I'm not doing it anymore!
02:41 Alright, I knew you were going to say that!
02:43 I'm off of it.
02:46 And my insulin, I was taking 300 units a day.
02:51 Now I'm down to about 90 units a day.
02:53 Wow.
02:54 Now let me just address the audience for a moment.
02:56 We don't do an interview before this show. This is live
03:00 and recording one shot.
03:03 So you're seeing the real deal.
03:05 Back to when you first came here
03:08 you seemed so relaxed then like there wasn't anything
03:13 really going on.
03:14 Well, that's my nature.
03:15 That's your nature.
03:17 That's my nature.
03:18 Okay.
03:20 I feel like I've not only done good for myself but I feel like
03:22 I've done good for the other guests too.
03:26 I've been very positive with them.
03:29 And when I was going through the morphine withdrawls
03:32 I did my best to help those ladies out.
03:36 We had 13 ladies and only 3 guys.
03:38 Wow.
03:39 And since then, like I said I've dropped my insulin down.
03:45 I lost 20 lbs.
03:47 20 lbs.!
03:49 20 lbs. in 18 days.
03:50 I can tell!
03:52 I feel so much better, I just praise the Lord!
03:55 He's blessed me way more than I could've imagined.
03:59 Amen. Amen.
04:01 Your legs and your hands, what about the neuropathy?
04:04 When I first came here I could bearly walk
04:07 the trails
04:09 I had a really rough time. My legs were tight
04:11 and they were really hurting.
04:13 Now I'm walking up to 5 miles a day.
04:15 Wow!
04:16 I'm going up the hills, I've been up misery hill,
04:19 I've been all through the flume trail.
04:21 What's misery hill?
04:22 That's the big hill.
04:24 That's the big hill! They call that misery hill?
04:26 They used to call it cardiac hill.
04:29 Cardiac hill too.
04:30 But now they've changed it?
04:32 We call it misery hill.
04:33 One or the other you got up there.
04:35 I got up there.
04:36 As well as a lot of our heart patients who come here
04:40 for restoration of their heart and their
04:42 cardiovascular disease
04:43 they're all walking up that hill.
04:46 I'm leaving for home tomorrow
04:49 with a whole new attitude
04:51 and a whole new life. I thought before I came here
04:55 that my life was over.
04:57 I really thought that.
04:58 And now, look, I can tell, my face, my stomach is going.
05:07 I got about 20 more lbs. to go
05:09 and then hopefully I'm going to get off insulin for good.
05:12 Good.
05:13 But NEWSTART has just done wonderful.
05:15 Now whats going on here Dan? I am an alumni aswell
05:19 and I have my own point of view.
05:21 But I want you to tell our viewers
05:24 what you think is happening here.
05:25 What's going on, is it the food?
05:27 It's the food, it's the treatments,
05:29 it's the lectures, it's the atmosphere, everything,
05:34 all in one.
05:36 I love the hydro treatments.
05:37 I'm a stainless steel fabricator.
05:42 And I'm going to fabricate some basins for myself
05:47 so I can do the hot water cold water treatment.
05:50 Because that hot water cold water treatment is excellent.
05:54 It's done so much good for my legs it's unbelievable.
05:58 Now Dan, when I was here
06:01 I could feel the presence of the Lord so deeply in my heart.
06:05 I didn't know it at the time.
06:07 I was not a Christian then.
06:09 Oh really?
06:10 I was not a Christian.
06:11 And because of the NEWSTART program and the many people here
06:16 I was baptized 3 months later!
06:18 Oh, wonderful, praise the Lord!
06:21 So tell me, did you have an experience like I did?
06:24 Well, I was born and raised a Seventh-Day Adventist.
06:27 I went through Auburn Academy.
06:30 I got away from the church after I went into the service
06:33 and I did my own thing and I was selfish
06:36 and three years ago I was rebaptized into the church.
06:40 At the Gila Mountain Seventh-Day Adventist Church.
06:43 My pastor, Pastor Mel Phillips,
06:46 he's been an inspiration to me and he really cares about me
06:50 and he's the one who got me to come here.
06:52 And I just praise the Lord, for my church family.
06:57 They're behind me, they support me,
07:00 and I love them all.
07:02 Now what about the staff here?
07:04 Oh, the staff here are wonderful.
07:07 Every one of them.
07:08 All through, the chaplain,
07:13 Jerry in massage and water treatment,
07:16 Richard in exercise, I can just name them all.
07:20 Well, Dr. Ing has been my biggest inspiration.
07:24 He's been your mentor?
07:25 Absolutely.
07:27 He has been so good. He and I are in contact all day long.
07:30 Yes.
07:31 I've been taking my blood sugars and I've
07:33 finally gotten them down to where I'm in the 100's.
07:37 Because I was floating up in the 200's, 300's.
07:40 Is Dr. Ing your doctor?
07:41 Dr. Ing is my doctor.
07:43 Okay, we're going to be
07:44 talking with him in a little bit.
07:45 Oh, he's a wonderful doctor.
07:47 All the doctors are, Dr. DeRose, and Dr. Lukens.
07:51 They're just wonderful.
07:52 So did you think it was usual to
07:55 have access to your doctor all day long?
07:58 Yeah, yeah.
07:59 Yeah, because I go to veterans medical
08:01 and I'm just a number.
08:04 And when I go to see my doctor he
08:05 doesn't even really know who I am.
08:07 He just goes on the computer and
08:09 looks to see where my blood is at
08:12 And I will remain with veterans but
08:16 I'm going in with a different attitude.
08:19 I'm going to tell him what I need.
08:21 What I've learned here
08:23 is unbelievable.
08:26 What about your family, when you go home,
08:28 you're on fire I can tell,
08:32 and you're absolutely going to stay with this,
08:34 what about the family, how are they
08:35 going to deal with it?
08:37 Well, my father is a winter visitor to Yuma, AZ
08:40 he lives up in Montana in the summer
08:42 and comes to Yuma, AZ in the winter.
08:44 And my dad is very healthy. He's 80
08:47 years old and he's in better shape than I am.
08:50 And he's borderline diabetic and he and my step mom,
08:56 I'm trying to get them,
08:58 I've been talking to them on the phone,
08:59 and I want them to go vegetarian.
09:02 I'm completely vegetarian now.
09:04 Vegan.
09:05 Good.
09:07 I'm off the meat, I'm off the milk,
09:08 I just loved cheese, I loved yogurts,
09:12 and milk. I could drink a gallon of milk a day.
09:15 Easy.
09:17 So now my life has turned.
09:20 Now have you stopped any
09:22 medication while you've been here?
09:23 I've stopped all my medications
09:25 except I'm taking a little bit of Lisinopril.
09:28 What does the all consist of?
09:31 I was taking Gemfibrozil,
09:34 I was taking Gabapentin.
09:37 I was taking, oh 3, 4,
09:41 other things to help my triglycerides
09:46 and I'm off everything except the Lisinopril.
09:49 And the doctor tells me that helps my kidneys.
09:56 That's awesome.
09:57 I'm just completely elated
09:59 Dan, I want to thank you. We're running out of
10:01 time but thank you for coming on the program.
10:04 It was my pleasure.
10:05 God bless you!
10:06 You too, thank you!
10:08 Friends, don't go away because Dr.
10:09 Ing is going to be with us right after this message.
10:22 Do you have diabetes,
10:23 heart disease, high blood pressure,
10:25 or do you weigh too much?
10:28 Hi, my name is Dr. Ing, and I'd like to tell you
10:30 about our 18-day
10:32 NEWSTART lifestyle program.
10:34 It includes a comprehensive medical
10:36 evaluation with laboratories and an
10:39 exercise stress test,
10:41 physician consultations,
10:43 culinary school,
10:45 and an opportunity to walk on beautiful
10:47 trails in the foothills of the Sierras.
10:52 Your health is one of the most
10:53 important things that you have. Don't wait.
10:56 Give us a call.
11:00 Or visit our website.
11:19 Welcome back friends, and in
11:21 our studio is, Dr. Clarence Ing.
11:22 How are you, Doctor?
11:24 It's great to be here, Ron.
11:25 Before we start I just want to remind our guests
11:27 for those who have never met you,
11:30 you are the medical director here at
11:32 the NEWSTART program, is that correct?
11:33 That is correct.
11:35 Alright we got that straight.
11:36 Now we're going to talk about, Dan.
11:38 Yes.
11:40 And Dan seems to be a different guy
11:44 in the second interview.
11:46 He's like on top, is he really doing that great?
11:50 Yeah, he's feeling so much better than when he came.
11:54 He's off medications and his blood
11:58 sugar is under much better control.
12:01 He probably mentioned how much insulin he was on.
12:03 He was taking 100 units of insulin 3 times a day.
12:07 70/30 which is a mixture of regular and NPH insulin,
12:12 with every meal and his blood sugars were
12:16 far less than we would want. In other words they were
12:19 way to high, they were out of control.
12:22 So he was willing to fast,
12:26 go without eating for three days
12:29 to get started.
12:30 And during this time we'd monitor his blood
12:33 sugars to make sure they didn't go to high
12:36 and it was very interesting. Even without eating any food
12:39 his blood sugars were still high,
12:41 but not so high that we had to give him any medication.
12:45 And then he resumed eating and then we had to
12:49 give him a little bit of insulin. But now he's
12:52 taking 100 units a day which has knocked off 200 units a day.
12:58 He's better. Also, initially when he came
13:01 he was uncomfortable because
13:04 his hands were numb and tingling and they hurt
13:08 and also his feet,
13:12 his legs and his feet were totally numb.
13:16 Yeah, he was on morphine I understad.
13:18 Yeah, he was on morphine
13:19 because of the pain in his hands.
13:20 Oh, wow.
13:22 And after he'd been here for a week he said,
13:23 I want to stop that.
13:26 Fine if you want to stop that we'd be happy to work with you.
13:29 He had a tough few days but he said he'd done it
13:31 before and he wanted to get off of some of those medicines.
13:34 Is this something that we've done
13:36 continuosly here at the NEWSTART program,
13:39 assist people in getting off of medications?
13:42 We've had people want to get off of
13:43 medications and if they're willing to that
13:46 we're willing to work with them.
13:48 So he's done very, very well,
13:51 he's stopped that medication, and he's lost 20 lbs.
13:54 One of the fascinating things about his blood work was
13:59 that his triglycerides were really, very high.
14:01 I'm not sure if he told you the number but I think it was
14:04 876 which is quite high.
14:08 They're still high now but they came down to 461
14:13 which 415 points lower than what they were.
14:16 And that's even with stopping one of his
14:18 medications that help lower his triglycerides.
14:21 So his diet and lifestyle have made a big impact.
14:25 And now he says that his feet which
14:28 weren't hurting before are starting to hurt.
14:30 Which means he's getting feeling back in his feet.
14:34 And the pain in the feeling he has is not that painful.
14:39 So he's getting feeling back in his feet.
14:41 So it's a welcome pain.
14:44 Yeah, it's uncomfortable but something he can tolerate
14:49 and now he has feeling in his feet.
14:52 And his blood sugar is likewise as
14:55 we've worked with him to manage his
14:58 insulin and his eating
15:00 because he's primarily just eating 2 meals a day.
15:04 His blood sugars are now within a normal range
15:08 with the medication.
15:10 So he's using a short acting insulin and
15:12 a long acting insulin and doing very well.
15:15 Now when he leaves here,
15:16 will you, or will he be doing follow up,
15:21 as in calling you and asking for advice,
15:24 or will you be working with his doctor,
15:27 how does that all play out?
15:28 Well I certainly hope he'll contact me
15:32 because on my final instructions
15:34 I told him what I wanted him to do.
15:38 Whole plant foods eaten whole,
15:40 take some B12 everyday,
15:42 walk at least 3 to 4 miles a day,
15:45 and I gave him a goal for losing weight.
15:47 Lose about 5 pounds a month until he gets down to
15:51 the weight we talked about.
15:53 He, and May, who is my wife who is also a dietitian,
16:00 the three of us together decided on a weight goal for him
16:04 and working at about 5 lbs.
16:05 a month he should be able to get there.
16:07 And since he has email he's meant to report to me
16:11 at least once a month about his progress, and blood sugars,
16:16 and he knows how to contact me because he has my
16:18 home telephone number,
16:20 actually he has my cell phone number.
16:23 Because that's how I've been tracking and following him here.
16:27 When he takes his blood sugar he
16:29 reports to me and says, what should we do?
16:32 So now he's got a handle on it and knows what he needs to do.
16:36 And so it's not unusual for a
16:40 doctor here at the NEWSTART program
16:43 to follow up on guests once they leave?
16:45 That's right, if the guest wants to have someone to talk to
16:50 all of my patients get my home telephone number.
16:52 That's awesome.
16:54 And they can call me anytime of the day or night.
16:56 I know that to be true,
16:58 because when I first met you 7 or 8
17:00 years ago it was on the phone
17:03 and you returned a phone call from me
17:06 and it was about ten o'clock at night when we talked.
17:09 Sometimes I don't get to make my phone
17:11 calls until then because that's when I get home.
17:14 So do you think that Dan is...
17:16 You know, we've done this
17:18 program for about a year now doctor.
17:20 and we've seen all these
17:22 wonderful changes that people are going through,
17:25 is it typical in your experience?
17:27 It seems to be in mine now,
17:30 that whoever comes here gets healed.
17:32 Well they certainly get much better,
17:35 especially those with diabetes.
17:37 The numbers that we use as far as people with type 2 diabetes,
17:42 of which Dan was an example, I had another individual,
17:45 and this other individual had had diabetes for 3 years, and
17:49 she came in on her medication, and
17:51 she stopped her medication, it was an oral medicine,
17:55 and her blood sugars are
17:56 normal now without any medications.
17:57 So, 4 out of 10, or 40%
18:00 of those with type 2 diabetes usually
18:03 we find that their blood sugars will be
18:06 normal without having to use medication.
18:09 And those who still have to use medication,
18:11 Dan is an example of that group,
18:13 have much better control with far less medication.
18:16 And he's proof of that as well.
18:18 He's also proof of the thing we've discovered, which is
18:23 with the NEWSTART approach to diabetes
18:27 people with diabetic neuropathy, which is what he had,
18:33 with the burning, numbness, tingling, and so on,
18:37 we get a significant and dramatic improvement.
18:40 So it's been very worthwhile
18:42 for him to go through the program
18:44 and he's very pleased and happy,
18:46 with what he's been through and what he's
18:50 accomplished and how he's feeling right now.
18:53 So for our viewers now, there seems to be
19:01 a lifestyle that we teach here.
19:03 Some people can't get here for whatever those reasons are.
19:08 Is there something that you can tell our friends
19:12 and our viewing audience all over the world here
19:15 what they could possibly do to help change their lives.
19:21 Well I think one of the really important things in
19:24 helping to improve your health is the food that you eat
19:27 and we've discovered through experience and also
19:30 by reading the medical literature
19:32 that the best diet is the
19:34 original one given to man in Genesis 1:29.
19:38 And that ends up being plant foods.
19:40 So the the guideline we use for food is,
19:43 whole plant foods eaten whole.
19:46 So can you break that down a little bit?
19:49 Whole plant foods eaten whole,
19:52 that means we should be eating a plant based diet,
19:55 Right.
19:57 in their original form as they come out of the garden?
20:00 Well sometimes you've got to, like your wheat
20:05 you've got to process the wheat a little bit,
20:09 eat brown rice rather than white rice,
20:12 whole wheat flour rather than the white enriched flour.
20:19 If it has a mother or a face you don't want to eat it.
20:22 And another thing to remember,
20:24 your stomach is not a graveyard for dead animals.
20:27 Those are two important points, if you combine
20:30 those with whole plant foods you should do quite well.
20:32 So, if it has a mother or a face don't eat it.
20:36 That's right.
20:37 And whole plant foods eaten whole.
20:38 That means when you go into the market
20:41 and you go into the produce section
20:44 you can eat anything in the produce section, pretty much.
20:47 Yeah, all your vegetables and things of
20:50 course and then your whole grain cereals.
20:53 White rice is not what you want, brown rice is.
20:58 Instead of white flour, even enriched white flour,
21:00 you'd want to eat whole wheat flour.
21:03 Well Dr. Ing I want to thank you
21:05 because I know you're a busy guy
21:07 running this program here,
21:09 I just want to thank you for coming on the set.
21:11 And God bless you and your work!
21:13 It's a pleasure, thank you, Ron.
21:14 And friends I want to thank you, but don't go away,
21:16 we have an important message for you, right now!
21:34 Hello, welcome to NEWSTART At Home.
21:36 We're glad you've joined us today.
21:37 And we're also glad that Dr. Doug Plata is with us.
21:40 He is an urgent care specialist and trained in
21:44 family medicine and preventive medicine.
21:46 Which means you're just very practical.
21:48 Thank you, I hope so.
21:49 And you probably see a lot of people
21:51 that are just kind of axious about things.
21:54 And there's nothing that causes more
21:56 anxiousness than maybe a foreign body in the eye,
21:59 or in the nose! We're gonna talk
22:00 about foreign bodies in the nose and ears!
22:03 Right, some of the most interesting cases I've seen!
22:06 I'm sure you've seen them to.
22:10 You always hear those stories
22:11 about a kid putting a bean in his nose,
22:15 or whatever. What are the things you see?
22:18 Rasins, peanuts, I don't know why,
22:20 but they just do it. Kids, what can you do?
22:23 And who's more troubled about it,
22:27 the child, or the mother?
22:28 Oh, by far in ways, the parent who comes in.
22:31 Yeah, very distraught.
22:33 So, probably at first you're like a
22:36 psychologist saying, it's going to be okay.
22:38 Exactly.
22:39 And you kind of do a little soothing.
22:42 But let's get to that. What should
22:44 we start with the nose, or the ears?
22:47 Honestly I consider them about the same.
22:49 So, let's start with the nose.
22:50 Okay, very well.
22:52 Again the most common thing I see are
22:55 little children who don't know any better and
22:58 the parents will often times say
22:59 that they just watch the kids grab
23:01 it and stick it in the nose.
23:02 It's something they enjoy doing I guess.
23:05 And again, most commonly
23:08 rasins, kids just love to do that,
23:10 peanuts, these sorts of things.
23:13 So what do you do?
23:17 Have they tried blowing the nose? What do you do?
23:19 Right, right.
23:21 Often times the mother is in a panic.
23:24 She may have tried to get it out,
23:26 she may not have. Regardless,
23:29 in most cases it's fairly straight forward,
23:32 we just have some forcepts we can just reach in and get it.
23:36 It depends how far back the kid has pushed the object.
23:40 We can use different techniques. Sometimes
23:44 getting something past it, and pulling it out like that.
23:48 So, is there anything they can do at home
23:51 before they see you, what should
23:52 they try before they get there?
23:54 What I find often times is it's not too
23:57 far in and they can just kind of push it out.
24:01 And that often times works.
24:03 I would not recommend this next thing for
24:06 them to do at home because it's very dangerous
24:08 but sometimes we just take a Q-tip and put some
24:11 super glue on there and attatch it
24:13 on and then pull it out like that.
24:15 But I definitely would not recommend that. That's just
24:16 asking for trouble if it's not being done by a professional.
24:19 That's true because they end up
24:21 with a Q-tip glued inside their nose.
24:24 Which would probably not be good.
24:25 Exactly.
24:27 Okay so, anything else about the nose before we move to the ear?
24:31 Let's move on to the ear
24:32 because there was something I've seen
24:34 that's common in the ear and that's when people are sleeping
24:38 and they must really be in a deep sleep because while
24:41 they're sleeping an insect actually crawls into the ear.
24:43 This is a common thing like a cockroach or like a...
24:45 Yeah!
24:47 And so, of course depending on if it's a
24:48 black widow spider you're in deep trouble but
24:52 But I haven't seen that yet.
24:53 Right.
24:55 So what do you do in that particular case?
24:56 What can they do at home, anything?
24:58 Well, quite honestly I find that people don't
25:02 stay at home very long because usually
25:03 they're on the road and they're flying.
25:05 because it's gotta be one of the most disturbing
25:07 things to have an insect crawling around in your ear.
25:10 And often times there's nothing,
25:12 you try to get it out and the insect tries to stay in,
25:14 it's trying to get away from you.
25:16 So it's very difficult to get out.
25:17 So if you shine a light it freaks out?
25:20 Well actually sometimes they'll actually say,
25:22 oh, that's the way out and they actually follow it.
25:25 So, yeah.
25:26 You can try that, if that doesn't work...
25:29 But usually if it's not working and they
25:31 come to you what do you do when they get there?
25:33 First of all what I like to do is kill the poor insect.
25:37 Because it' going to be a lot easier
25:39 if it's not struggling to get out. So,
25:41 we can use alcohol and kill it that way or spray it and
25:45 Rubbing alcohol?
25:46 Yeah, yeah.
25:48 So they can do that at home?
25:49 That's really true, they can do that at home.
25:51 And that should be perfectly safe.
25:52 And then we go in with sort of needle nosed little clamps
25:55 and reach in and grab it and sometimes it comes out in parts.
25:59 It's the reality.
26:02 You might be able to do one other technique
26:05 I've seen and that's when you take a syringe and wash it out.
26:09 Yeah, that can work as well.
26:11 Could they try that at home?
26:12 If they have got a syringe.
26:15 Like maybe a bulb syringe or something?
26:16 Yeah.
26:18 We've been talking to Dr. Doug Plata
26:19 about foreign bodies in the ears.
26:21 Very practical information for you.
26:25 I think there's all kinds of
26:26 information like this on our website at,
26:33 Thank you Dr. Plata. This was very
26:35 practical and might seem like a small thing to you
26:37 but a small thing in the ear is a big thing, isn't it?
26:39 That's right.
26:41 So we're glad that you've joined us
26:42 here at NEWSTART At Home
26:43 and thank you again for being with us.
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26:56 to theories developed in the mid-1800s.
26:59 Out of the same time period came ideas that shape
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27:05 The Common School Movement, for example,
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27:17 Instead of being flexible and practical,
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27:25 that fit the needs of an old industrial era
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27:31 Just like our view of creation in six literal days,
27:34 we believe the Bible contains an educational blueprint
27:38 radically different from the one we see now.
27:54 Well folks that's it for today. Thank you for joining us.
27:58 In the mean time pick up the phone and give us a call at,
28:04 God bless you, have a great day!


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