Hi Friends, and welcome to
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another
addition of NEWSTART Now.
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In our Studio with us today
is Lori Merritt from Arkansas.
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Lori is a nurse and she
came to the NEWSTART program
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with several issues.
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Let's look at the clip
of when she first arrived.
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The reason I came to NEWSTART is
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because I had let myself
get on too many medications.
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I was on
several antidepressants.
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I was on uppers, downers,
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and pain pills. Altogether
I took about 21 pills a day,
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of prescription medication.
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It was 16
different prescriptions.
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that I was taking
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I want to
accomplish getting off of
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the medication and
feeling good again.
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I have felt bad for a
really long time, I'm a nurse
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RN, and I haven't been able to
work for 10 months due to this.
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It has been a
roller-coaster ride.
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I hope to get off of the
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medication and
get my family back.
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and get me back.
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Welcome back
friends, and here is Lori
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How are you Lori
-good how are you
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Good to see
you. You look so much
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better than when
we first saw you,
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as you just noticed.
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I have a question. How did
you get on these medications?
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You said you were taking
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21 different medications.
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or 16, 21
different times of the day?
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Actually it started about 16
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years ago when I
started my first one.
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I stayed along
with that for quite some
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time and I would have
breakthrough depression.
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Each time I would have
breakthrough depression,
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they would add another pill.
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About 5 years ago I started
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having some
problems with my back
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and so I started taking the
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pain pills and
the muscle relaxers
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and mentally I
started going downhill
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It was tearing my family
apart because of the medication.
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December of 08, I was
diagnosed with Narcolepsy
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So that is when they added
the uppers and the downers.
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You wake up in
the morning and take
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something and take
something to go to bed.
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It just built up
over time -yeah yeah
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So now 16 years has passed,
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and you decide to come to the
NEWSTART program here at Weimar.
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Tell us a little bit about your
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experience since
you have been here.
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Have you noticed any changes?
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I have noticed changes with me.
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I am feeling a lot better.
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It is easier to
get up in the mornings.
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I feel so much
better without the
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side effects of the medications.
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Also my head if
clearer. -really?
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Now what do you
attribute this to?
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Were you still
taking the medications
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when you got here.
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-I was taking them
all when I got here
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Are you still
taking all of them?
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-No sir.
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Oh you're not.
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Well how many of
them have you eliminated?
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I am taking only
3 prescriptions now.
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-Oh my goodness!
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Well that's fabulous.
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-Yes
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That's wonderful.
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and your head has cleared.
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That is fantastic.
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So from 16 to 3 I
think that's pretty good.
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It's excellent!
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-So what's the
prognosis? Where from here?
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Well I get to go home and
see my girls and my husband.
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They have a new mom,
a new wife. Definitely.
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-Wow
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God is back in my life now.
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I have connected with
Him while I've been here.
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It just makes a big difference
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-Praise God
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I'm so happy for you.
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I know during the first
interview you said to us that
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you would like to get off
of all of the medications.
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We had one guy who
came here to NEWTSTART
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on 26 different medications.
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When he left he
ended up taking 4 or 5.
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A lot of those medications
were not working anyway.
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They were
counteracting one another.
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You know, Uppers,
downers, sideways.
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I know you will progress as
you keep this new lifestyle.
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Lets talk about this
lifestyle for a moment.
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What is it that
you've learned that
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has been a
tremendous benefit to you.
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Now you have
already expressed the Lord.
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What else?
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The diet makes a big difference!
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I had a horrible
diet before coming
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Now I eat
regularly and eat good foods.
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and now I drink water.
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-Drink water, That's a novelty.
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What were you
drinking before you got here?
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Diet Cokes.
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Good 'ol Coca-Cola,
nothing like a good 'ol coke
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Yeah that is
terrible stuff. Lots of sugar.
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So are you
drinking a lot of water?
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-I'm drinking as much as I can.
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I'm about
waterlogged but I'm going to
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continue because it
has made me feel better.
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-Now I've
watched you walk outside,
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because you have
walked right past me.
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Where did you get that stride?
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How is it that
you walk so strong?
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If you have been under
these medications for 16 years?
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Well when I've worked,
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I'm a nurse and I
worked in hemodialysis
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and it's a busy busy area.
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-So you've got to be huffing it.
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-Yes
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I knew there was
something involved
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in your work because
you were just too strong.
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You were
walking with Rich Smith,
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who is our exercise director
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He was having a hard
time keeping up with you.
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So that's good. I would
encourage you to keep walking.
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Of course continue
the water, and the food.
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and most of all,
prayer, that time with the Lord.
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The Lord's hand is
truly on this place.
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-Yes
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I've seen people come
come here and the Lord
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really does help
people through their problems.
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-He's definitely here.
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Yeah
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I'm so happy for you.
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Now what about the hydrotherapy
and the massage therapy
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Did that help?
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-Oh yes!
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When I first got
here I stayed in bed
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pretty much the
first 4 or 5 days.
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I wouldn't
participate or anything.
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I wouldn't come out of
my room except for hydro.
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-Oh really? Yeah
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You found that to be necessary.
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The massages were nice.
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-They were good.
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Now why did you
stay in your room?
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I didn't want to
participate at first.
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Was there somewhat of depression
or something like that?
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-Yes sir.
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Just kind of a, I'm not going
to do this type of an attitude?
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-Yes sir.
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Well, I think you're
participating very well now.
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I know the Lord will
continue to bless you.
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So is there
something that you might say
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to the viewing audience
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that would encourage others
who are heavily medicated?
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What would you advice them?
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There is a different life,
being off of the medications.
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You feel so much better.
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You don't wake up
and reach for a pill
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and keeping having
to take more and more
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You really feel so much better.
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Being of the medicine.
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So is there a way for someone
to get off of these medications
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that you would
advise, being a nurse?
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Work with your
doctor on it but find one
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who believes on
getting off of the medications.
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-Do you know of such a doctor?
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Here, Doctor
DeRose, he's wonderful
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-Yeah he's a wonderful doctor.
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We are going to
be interviewing him
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in just a moment here.
We have a few seconds left.
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I just want to congratulate you
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It is just
profound to see the changes.
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I notice the changes in you.
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Dr. DeRose has shared with us
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that you are
doing extremely well
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I just praise God that
He has brought you here.
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and that you are
back in touch with Him.
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-God through Weimar
has saved my life. Amen
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Thank you Lori so
much for taking a part
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and being on our
program. -Thank You
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God bless you.
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Thank you
friends and don't go away
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because in a moment we'll be
talking with Dr. David DeRose.
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Well, you've done very well.
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Do you have diabetes,
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heart disease,
high blood pressure,
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or do you weigh too much?
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Hi, my name is Dr. Ing,
and I'd like to tell you
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about our 18-day
NEWSTART lifestyle program.
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It includes a
comprehensive medical
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evaluation with
laboratories and an
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exercise stress test,
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physician consultations,
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culinary school,
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and an opportunity
to walk on beautiful
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trails in the
foothills of the Sierras.
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Your health is one of the most
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important things
that you have. Don't wait.
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Give us a call.
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Or visit our website.
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Welcome back
friends, and as I've promised
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Dr. David DeRose.
How are you doctor?
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-Good. Good to see you Ron.
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It's always good to see you.
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-It's great to be on the show.
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You know doc, I'm
going to talk about something
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that is near and
dear to my heart.
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Having seen people such as Lori
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and her
predicament, It really pains me
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It hurts when I see
someone who is struggling
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with there life because maybe
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they took too much of
this or too much of that
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How is she really doing
from a medical professional
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Well I think her assessment
was actually quite accurate
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She has made
tremendous progress.
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and anytime you
deal with a variety
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of things that you
are being medicated for
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and you heard her
share her diagnosis.
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Things like depression
and a diagnosis of narcolepsy.
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which is a
condition where people
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can fall asleep at
inappropriate times.
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also the chronic pain situation
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You get this
combination of things
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and it's not
something that people just
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bounce back from in a few days.
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She has made
incredible progress.
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Coming off
medications, feeling better,
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and functioning
better are things
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that are always
gratifying for us to see that.
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-Yes, absolutely.
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Is this common would
you think in the world
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of dealing with medications
as a lot of nurses do.
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Well I mean
it's not just nurses.
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It's a huge problem that we have
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in our society today, Ron
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because we've moved
to a model of medicine
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where in most places people have
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very little time
with the physician.
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So you go to the
physician and the pressure
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of the doctors to
make a quick diagnosis
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and right out a prescription.
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-Right
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What happens is,
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we've fragmented
medical care today.
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We don't have
the 'ol family doctor
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who takes care
of the whole family
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for every
problem. You are seeing
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all of these
different specialists.
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So if you have a pain problem,
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you are seeing one doctor.
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Maybe a orthopedic surgeon,
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maybe a pain specialist.
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If you've got depression,
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you're probably
seeing a psychiatrist.
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If you've got some
blood sugar problems,
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maybe you're seeing an
internal medicine specialist
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or a cardiologist.
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The challenge is that most
of these doctors are unwilling
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to change a prescription
that someone else wrote.
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-Right So when you come
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for a short visit to a doctor,
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you may be on 8 medicines
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and your complaining
about some kind of problem,
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That doctor is
not likely to say,
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well maybe you're
on too many medicines,
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let's go back to square one,
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let's see if we can work
with you and simplify things."
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They are going to say,
no, you have this problem,
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let me give you
another prescription"
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It is very easy the way
american medicine has evolved.
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for people to get on
more and more medications.
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Nobody really
looks at the big picture
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and says look, we've
got to get a handle on this,
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regardless if the top
specialist in the community
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wrote a prescription for this,
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If we can get by without it,
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than this is going
to be in your interest.
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-Well would it
be fair to say than,
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If someone is depressed and
they are suffering from pains,
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and maybe a little bit
of this that and the other,
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that they have 4
different doctors
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and they are all giving
different medications that
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are
counteracting the medications
00:14:42.63\00:14:43.84
that the
previous doctor game them?
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-Well I don't know if I
would use the word counteracting
00:14:45.54\00:14:48.12
but I would say
that these things
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have an accumulative effect.
00:14:49.22\00:14:50.72
In fact, what I
sometimes tell patients,
00:14:50.73\00:14:53.06
Once you start
seeing multiple doctors
00:14:53.48\00:14:55.30
and you get on, like Lori
said, 16 different medications,
00:14:55.31\00:14:58.30
There is no one in the world
00:14:58.51\00:15:00.18
that knows what
that combination of
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16 drugs is going to do.
00:15:02.13\00:15:04.42
Drugs are
studied as single agents.
00:15:04.43\00:15:07.57
-Yes So what
does that combination
00:15:07.58\00:15:09.18
of 16 drugs do
especially when it is
00:15:09.19\00:15:11.54
superimposed on
Lori's physiology
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or Bob's or Sam's
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We just don't always know
00:15:16.27\00:15:18.60
We like to say, Well we
know how these drugs work
00:15:18.61\00:15:21.18
but when you get
what we call Polypharmacy,
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the risk of drug interactions
just magnifies incredibly.
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The risk of toxicity
and side effects etc.
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Here at NEWSTART, one of the
beautiful things that we can do,
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is say look, we have
a comprehensive program.
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The program is
designed for the physicians
00:15:37.06\00:15:39.15
to be able to
spend time with you.
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If it doesn't
happen in the office,
00:15:40.75\00:15:42.51
than we can come to your room
00:15:42.66\00:15:44.15
over at the NEWSTART lodge
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if you are
struggling with something.
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-Wow Whatever it
is, we are going to
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take the time
with you to evaluate
00:15:48.43\00:15:50.78
your problem and get
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you on the path to recovery.
00:15:52.31\00:15:53.81
Often Ron, on these
cases with multiple drugs,
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part of the solution is
simplifying the regiment.
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So we've seen this over and over
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through the years, where people
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get on multiple
drugs as you put it,
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I know that there are viewers
watching this program right now
00:16:07.36\00:16:12.63
and they are saying
"Wow that sounds like me,
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I'm taking 45
different medications.
00:16:14.46\00:16:16.66
Well not that many
but we have seen 27 here.
00:16:16.67\00:16:19.84
-Yeah Some taking 15 or 20
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What do they do? Some
of them have just given up.
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Well the first point
that I would like to make,
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Someone might think that I am
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condemning my peers in medicine.
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I sympathize with these guys.
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I don't think I
could do what they do.
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Many of them do quite a good job
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within the constraints here.
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I had a friend who
was in one of these
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busy specialty
groups and he was given
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only like 5-10
minutes to see a new patient.
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He had to diagnose the patient
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and give him a prescription.
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It just like a treadmill.
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Some of these doctors
don't see any other option.
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So Ron, it's a problem,
but here is the situation.
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If you can find
someone in your community,
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maybe a new
practice because sometimes
00:17:07.06\00:17:09.54
doctors that have a
new practice or maybe
00:17:09.55\00:17:11.21
an internal medicine
specialist or family doctor,
00:17:11.22\00:17:13.63
They might be
able to have the time
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to say, let's go back to
square one and evaluate things.
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If you can't find
that in your own locality,
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look into some of
the lifestyle centers.
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We would love to have
people come here of course
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to Weimar, but
there are other centers
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that do something similar.
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The reason that these
places have popped up,
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is because of this very reason.
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People often can't get
that comprehensive care
00:17:31.88\00:17:34.57
in the setting that they are in.
00:17:34.78\00:17:36.18
-Now we have centers
all over the United States
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We have them in
Tennessee and George,
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You've worked at a
couple of them haven't you?
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-Yeah I've worked in a
number of different centers.
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This is the fourth
intensive lifestyle center
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that I've worked at.
We do a similar approach
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I'd like to think that we
have some unique advantages
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here at Weimar but there are
some other very good programs.
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-Well we have
you here at Weimar.
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Not to put you on the spot.
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But you are an internist.
00:18:08.52\00:18:11.27
-Yeah I have dual specialties
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I have boards in
internal medicine
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and in preventive medicine
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-Well isn't that an
advantage to a guy like me
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that had diabetes
and heart a conditions
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and all kinds of
difficulties in my life?
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Well, sure I have
specialty training in that area
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but I'm not a
subspecialist so I'm not
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a diabetes specialist,
I'm not a Endocrinologist
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or a Diabetologist. So
this is kinda the trade-off.
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A lot of people say, well I
already see an Endocrinologist,
00:18:34.76\00:18:38.36
I'm seeing a pain
specialist. Why should I see
00:18:38.37\00:18:41.09
a general internist?
Or some of my colleagues
00:18:41.10\00:18:43.66
here who board in
preventive medicine,
00:18:43.67\00:18:46.06
and family practice?
Dr. Ing of course with a
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dual board and he is
also an Opthamologist.
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They say why should we go there,
00:18:50.88\00:18:52.75
because we are already
seeing this top specialist
00:18:52.76\00:18:54.84
in this big city?
Well the problem is,
00:18:54.85\00:18:57.24
that top specialist,
although they are very good
00:18:57.25\00:18:59.84
at what they do,
they are very narrow
00:18:59.85\00:19:02.33
in their focus. They
are not looking at you
00:19:02.34\00:19:04.12
as a whole person, they
are just focused on your pain,
00:19:04.13\00:19:06.81
or they are just
focused on your knee problem,
00:19:06.82\00:19:08.69
or they are just
focused on your diabetes.
00:19:08.70\00:19:10.78
We are saying look,
we are whole people.
00:19:10.79\00:19:14.18
We have a team here at Weimar,
00:19:14.45\00:19:16.45
where we can deal
with you as a whole person.
00:19:16.69\00:19:19.06
That is the
vision that we have here.
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It is just like Jesus.
00:19:20.76\00:19:22.27
He didn't just say, I'm here to
00:19:22.28\00:19:23.78
help people
spiritually, He ministered
00:19:23.79\00:19:25.75
to them as whole people. -Yeah
00:19:25.76\00:19:26.78
If they had physical
problems, He healed them.
00:19:26.79\00:19:29.33
Is it fair to say, I've heard
from a laymen's point of view,
00:19:29.75\00:19:34.09
Doctors only have a
curtain amount of education
00:19:34.10\00:19:37.51
when it comes to
nutrition and lifestyle etc.
00:19:37.52\00:19:40.75
Is it fair to say
that? Is it true or not?
00:19:40.76\00:19:44.06
Well the baseline that we
start with is not really great.
00:19:44.12\00:19:48.06
We don't get a huge
amount of nutritional training
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in medical school. We
did get some at Loma Linda
00:19:50.52\00:19:53.60
where I trained.
It has become I think,
00:19:53.61\00:19:56.27
pretty common for most
medical schools to have
00:19:56.28\00:19:58.36
some nutritional
training but that is really not
00:19:58.37\00:20:00.45
the corner stone.
Many of us who end up
00:20:00.46\00:20:02.75
practicing what we
call lifestyle medicine and
00:20:02.76\00:20:05.24
preventive medicine
have gotten extra training
00:20:05.25\00:20:07.60
like many of the
staff here. A number of us
00:20:07.61\00:20:10.81
have masters in
public health degrees,
00:20:10.82\00:20:13.75
a number of us
have done extra work
00:20:13.76\00:20:16.51
in nutrition, whether
it is at the graduate level
00:20:16.52\00:20:19.30
in formal studies or
just reading more about it
00:20:19.31\00:20:22.48
and becoming more expert in it.
00:20:22.49\00:20:24.21
Dr. Lukens has
been here for 20 years.
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He doesn't have a
huge number of degrees
00:20:27.27\00:20:30.24
but he has an
incredible amount of
00:20:30.25\00:20:32.78
practical experience
from the mission field,
00:20:32.79\00:20:35.15
from here at Weimar, -Yeah
00:20:35.16\00:20:37.00
and working with
people over the years.
00:20:37.01\00:20:38.27
So it's not
even just the degrees
00:20:38.28\00:20:40.12
that one has and
the formal training,
00:20:40.30\00:20:42.03
it is really just a commitment.
00:20:42.04\00:20:43.45
to help people with
the lifestyle approach.
00:20:43.46\00:20:45.63
-So the
lifestyle approach is not
00:20:46.12\00:20:48.51
common
knowledge amongst doctors.
00:20:48.75\00:20:52.12
-Well I wouldn't say that
doctors don't know about it,
00:20:52.13\00:20:55.45
but the problem is
that the lifestyle approach
00:20:55.46\00:20:57.24
is time intensive. I
can remember years ago.
00:20:57.25\00:21:01.51
I was at a
conference. A medical conference
00:21:01.52\00:21:03.18
A leading diabetes
expert was speaking.
00:21:03.19\00:21:05.60
He talked about
how powerful exercise
00:21:05.61\00:21:09.15
and diet were in
helping diabetes.
00:21:09.16\00:21:11.57
He spent about 5 minutes on that
00:21:11.58\00:21:13.51
but than he said,
don't waste your time
00:21:13.52\00:21:15.42
telling patients about
this because they won't change.
00:21:15.43\00:21:18.48
The rest of the
talk was on insulin.
00:21:18.49\00:21:20.45
This is the common
experience of doctors.
00:21:20.46\00:21:24.33
They don't have
much time, they say lose
00:21:24.34\00:21:27.30
20 pounds and come
see me back in 3 months.
00:21:27.31\00:21:29.51
The average person
doesn't know how to do that.
00:21:29.52\00:21:31.30
on their own. It takes a team.
00:21:31.31\00:21:32.81
We have the
exercise component here.
00:21:32.82\00:21:36.06
We have the
hydrotherapy so we can deal with
00:21:36.07\00:21:38.69
the orthopedic
problems that are keeping
00:21:38.70\00:21:40.18
people from exercising.
We have the chaplain,
00:21:40.19\00:21:42.84
the counselor, we
have the nutritionist.
00:21:42.85\00:21:45.12
So we have it
all under one roof.
00:21:45.13\00:21:47.06
People can make
incredible progress
00:21:47.07\00:21:48.87
like Lori did in a
short amount of time.
00:21:48.88\00:21:50.75
Her back problems,
the problems she was
00:21:50.76\00:21:53.51
taking pain
relievers for, the hydrotherapy
00:21:53.52\00:21:56.21
with the lifestyle
was able to address that.
00:21:56.22\00:21:59.06
-Well doctor, we've
run out of time right now,
00:21:59.07\00:22:01.27
I want to thank
you so much for coming
00:22:01.28\00:22:03.33
on the program with us.
00:22:03.34\00:22:04.39
It's great to be with you.
00:22:04.40\00:22:05.69
Friends thank
you, but don't go away,
00:22:05.70\00:22:07.39
We have a tip for you right now.
00:22:07.40\00:22:09.27
Hello, and
welcome to NEWSTART Now.
00:22:23.36\00:22:24.78
I'm Don Mackintosh,
we're glad you're with us,
00:22:24.79\00:22:26.75
and we are glad that Dr.
Michael Orlich is with us.
00:22:27.21\00:22:29.36
Thank you for
being with us doctor.
00:22:29.37\00:22:30.75
Glad to be with you.
00:22:30.76\00:22:31.75
-Your a doctor
that has experience
00:22:31.76\00:22:34.06
in family practice
and also your boarding now
00:22:34.07\00:22:36.24
in preventive
medicine and you've worked
00:22:36.25\00:22:38.48
for a number of
years here at Weimar
00:22:38.49\00:22:40.72
with the NEWSTART program.
00:22:40.73\00:22:42.42
-That's correct.
00:22:42.43\00:22:43.60
One of the things
they recommend here
00:22:43.61\00:22:46.48
is that people go on a
largely a plant based diet.
00:22:46.49\00:22:50.12
if not fully and one of
the concerns that we get
00:22:50.13\00:22:52.81
a lot so you're going
to help clear this up,
00:22:52.82\00:22:55.39
is what about vitamin
B12. I heard that this could
00:22:55.40\00:22:58.63
be a real big
problem. Is that a problem?
00:22:58.64\00:23:00.72
What should we do
about it if it is?
00:23:00.73\00:23:03.24
Vitamin B12 deficiency
can be a very real problem
00:23:03.25\00:23:06.81
It can cause serious diseases.
00:23:06.82\00:23:11.09
It can cause
problems with your blood,
00:23:11.10\00:23:13.33
a special type of anemia.
00:23:13.34\00:23:15.15
More critically still,
is that it can cause damage
00:23:15.16\00:23:18.72
to your nerves
and this can lead to
00:23:18.75\00:23:21.51
psychiatric and
neurologic problems
00:23:21.52\00:23:24.36
that could be quite
serious and if not caught
00:23:24.37\00:23:28.42
soon enough, could
actually be irreversible.
00:23:28.43\00:23:31.36
So it is a very
important thing to know about.
00:23:31.37\00:23:33.12
Do many people get
this? Do many people
00:23:33.27\00:23:37.42
have these problems?
Have you ever seen a case?
00:23:37.43\00:23:39.84
Yes I have seen a
case unfortunately.
00:23:39.85\00:23:42.63
Vitamin B12
deficiency is not common
00:23:42.64\00:23:48.24
but it is somewhat prevalent.
00:23:48.25\00:23:51.21
In most cases it relates too
00:23:51.22\00:23:53.75
disorders of the
gastrointestinal tract,
00:23:54.21\00:23:57.36
where the vitamin
B12 for one reason
00:23:57.37\00:24:00.18
or another is not
able to be absorbed well.
00:24:00.19\00:24:02.78
The other population
that is particularly at risk,
00:24:02.79\00:24:05.54
for vitamin B12
risk is the elderly.
00:24:05.55\00:24:09.06
Often the elderly get on
sort of a tea and toast diet,
00:24:09.07\00:24:12.84
and so they are not
getting in much vitamin B12
00:24:13.27\00:24:15.75
and they don't
absorb it as well.
00:24:15.76\00:24:18.27
As you get
older, the requirements
00:24:18.28\00:24:20.12
for dietary B12 go up.
00:24:20.13\00:24:22.27
Now I don't want to
put you on the spot,
00:24:22.51\00:24:24.42
This is kind of a true
and false question for me.
00:24:24.43\00:24:26.63
I've heard that most
vitamin B12 deficiencies
00:24:26.64\00:24:30.24
occur in people
that are meat eaters.
00:24:30.25\00:24:31.69
Is that true or false?
00:24:31.70\00:24:32.81
That is true because of
the reasons I just mentioned.
00:24:32.82\00:24:36.45
Most of the vitamin
B12 deficiency is not due
00:24:36.46\00:24:39.78
to not getting
enough in the diet.
00:24:39.81\00:24:41.84
rather it is due to
gastrointestinal problems
00:24:41.85\00:24:45.18
interfering with the absorption.
00:24:45.19\00:24:46.87
However,
vegetarians; particularly vegans
00:24:46.88\00:24:51.42
or total
vegetarians that don't eat any
00:24:51.48\00:24:54.33
animal based
foods, no milk, etc.
00:24:54.34\00:24:57.45
are at higher risk of developing
vitamin B12 deficiency.
00:24:57.63\00:25:02.45
As you know, here at
NEWSTART, we do teach
00:25:02.46\00:25:04.36
a plant based diet
as a therapeutic diet
00:25:04.37\00:25:07.12
and as a
preventive diet that can
00:25:07.13\00:25:09.18
increase your
longevity as well as
00:25:09.33\00:25:11.72
reduce your risk for
a variety of diseases.
00:25:11.73\00:25:14.48
We want to be smart about it
00:25:14.49\00:25:16.21
and we don't want to
stumble into another problem
00:25:16.22\00:25:18.39
while we are solving others.
00:25:18.40\00:25:19.81
-So what can we do to
avoid a deficiency in this?
00:25:19.82\00:25:23.81
It is really very
simple, you just need to have
00:25:23.82\00:25:26.18
a known quantity of
vitamin B12 in your diet.
00:25:26.19\00:25:30.06
Either in pill form,
or in fortified foods.
00:25:30.07\00:25:33.33
Plant foods do not
have naturally accuring
00:25:33.66\00:25:37.09
vitamin B12 in any
level that you can rely upon.
00:25:37.10\00:25:41.06
Now you may see
things in health food stores.
00:25:41.24\00:25:45.39
and that sort of thing
that claim that curtain seaweeds
00:25:45.40\00:25:48.12
and things have vitamin B12
00:25:48.13\00:25:49.66
but this is not
really true vitamin B12
00:25:49.67\00:25:52.18
You can still have deficiencies.
00:25:52.51\00:25:54.27
So we would
recommend, either a multivitamin
00:25:54.28\00:25:56.84
that you take
everyday that has a very small
00:25:56.85\00:25:58.87
amount of vitamin
B12, or you could take
00:25:58.88\00:26:01.54
a vitamin B12
tablet once a week or
00:26:01.55\00:26:05.21
even once every two
weeks and that would be plenty.
00:26:05.22\00:26:08.06
Or you can eat foods that
are fortified with vitamin B12.
00:26:08.48\00:26:12.60
This could be a lot
of box breakfast cereals,
00:26:12.61\00:26:15.87
many of your soy
milks, and other products
00:26:16.15\00:26:18.78
have vitamin B12,
so you don't need much.
00:26:18.79\00:26:21.54
It is very easy to get it
00:26:21.55\00:26:22.87
but you want to
be conscious of that
00:26:22.88\00:26:24.51
so that you
don't become deficient
00:26:24.52\00:26:26.57
and suffer needless problems.
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Thanks a lot for
being with us Dr. Michael
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and thank you for being with us,
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we hope that the information
that you've gained today
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will give you a
newstart right now.
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Modern views of
evolution stem all the way back
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to theories
developed in the mid-1800s.
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Out of the same time
period came ideas that shape
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our educational system today.
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The Common School
Movement, for example,
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saw schools more like a factory,
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with students blindly
memorizing instruction
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rather than
thinking for themselves.
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Their curriculum was
rigid and theoretical.
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Instead of being
flexible and practical,
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it was designed to
conform the individual
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into a specific ideological mold
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that fit the needs
of an old industrial era
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long since passed.
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Just like our view of
creation in six literal days,
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we believe the Bible contains
an educational blueprint
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radically different
from the one we see now.
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Well Friends,
That's it for today.
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Now I know you know someone,
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just like Lori, pickup
the phone and give u a call
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so that we can help them.
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Dial
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Pickup the phone
right now and call
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God Bless you!
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