Participants: Ron Giannoni (Host), Georgette
Series Code: NSN
Program Code: NSN000067
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00:24 Hi friends, and welcome to another edition of NEWSTART Now.
00:27 We have a guest that's from halfway around the world. 00:31 This is Georgette Gindi, 00:33 and she is from the Middle East, 00:36 and we're going to look at a clip 00:38 when she first arrived here. 00:41 I don't have any diabetes or high blood pressure, 00:47 but all what I'm suffering is sciatica. 00:52 I chose the NEWSTART program because I want to lose weight, 00:57 and this is the cause of my pain. 01:03 The doctor told me I have to lose 14 kilos, 01:08 and it is very hard to lose a kilo at my age. 01:14 If God's will I will be healed from sciatica, 01:19 I'm going to give all my time for the service of God. 01:28 Welcome back friends, and in our studio... 01:30 How are you, young lady? - I'm fine, thank you. 01:33 Good to see you. - Thank you. 01:35 Now you described during that interview 01:38 that you needed to lose 14 kilos. 01:41 A lot of our viewers are not sure what that means. 01:45 Is that 30 pounds? 01:48 Almost, yeah. - Almost 30 pounds. 01:50 Okay, and how much weight have you lost since you've been here? 01:53 I lost 7 and a half pounds. - Good! 01:58 In such a short time. 02:01 And how is your leg and your situation? 02:04 I can tell you I am 95 percent healed. 02:10 - Alright! 02:12 And the 5 percent is my part. 02:18 I'm going to maintain what I've learned at the NEWSTART program. 02:23 - Praise God. 02:25 Now I know we've had a little bit of bad news 02:27 since you've been here. 02:29 Tell us what happened. 02:31 Yeah, the first few days they asked 02:35 to draw blood from everybody. 02:38 So I did. 02:41 The next day Doctor DeRose came and told me, 02:45 "The lab wants another draw from you 02:49 because they want to make sure of something." 02:53 So the drew the second time, blood. 02:58 And the next day Doctor DeRose called me in the office 03:03 and he informed me of bad news. 03:07 And that is, I had leukemia. 03:11 So before you came to the NEWSTART program, 03:14 you had no idea that all of a sudden this 03:18 leukemia was going to rear up. 03:20 But you found out here. 03:22 Well, as a matter of fact, two months ago, 03:25 before I came to NEWSTART, 03:27 I had a blood picture in Egypt. 03:33 And it showed that my white blood cells were high, 03:38 but they didn't mention anything about leukemia. 03:44 So it was a surprise and a shock to me. 03:48 Okay, so now you found out you have leukemia. 03:52 Then what did you decide to do? 03:55 What did you and Doctor DeRose figure out? 03:59 Well, we called my daughter in Canada, 04:04 and she got the reports from the lab 04:08 and the reports from Doctor DeRose, 04:11 who is my doctor here. 04:13 And she made an appointment in the hospital in Canada 04:19 to see a specialist to have some more tests 04:24 on the 11th of June. 04:29 But I just came back from the doctor's office right now, 04:33 - Just before you came into the studio? 04:36 - And you have a smile on your face. 04:38 - I know you've got something good to share. 04:40 Yes. Doctor DeRose told me 04:45 the result of the lab just came a few hours ago, 04:51 and it says that my white blood cells are better, 04:58 my cholesterol is better, 05:01 and I lost 7-1/2 pounds, 05:03 and my situation is much, much better than 05:07 when I came to NEWSTART. 05:11 Well, it seems to me, 05:14 as a result of coming to NEWSTART, 05:16 maybe the program saved your life? 05:20 Yes, it did. 05:21 Because you didn't know you had leukemia. 05:25 And now Doctor DeRose, 05:28 who is a fine doctor and an internist, 05:30 he discovers you have this leukemia, 05:33 and because you've been on the program 05:36 you're starting to get healthier from the leukemia. 05:38 Correct? 05:40 Yes. - Okay. 05:42 By the way, how is it that you got to 05:47 NEWSTART to begin with? 05:49 I mean, all the way from Kuwait? 05:50 That's halfway around the world, isn't it? 05:52 Yes. 05:55 I always watch 3ABN channel, 05:58 in Egypt and in Kuwait. 06:01 In Egypt and Kuwait they have 3ABN? 06:03 Yes. - Okay. 06:04 I enjoy the programs on 3ABN. 06:09 All through the day I can put it on 06:13 and enjoy it. 06:16 It's a wonderful program, yes. 06:18 And did you see our NEWSTART Now program there? 06:21 Yes. 06:24 So we're reaching all the way to Kuwait. 06:27 Isn't that marvelous! 06:28 So as a result of seeing this program, NEWSTART Now, 06:33 on 3ABN, is why you're here. 06:36 Yes. - Praise God. 06:40 - Wow, you just must be marveled by this. 06:44 - Yes, I'm so thankful that 06:47 God led me to NEWSTART program here, 06:52 because if I knew of my situation somewhere else, 06:58 I could have felt so bad. 07:03 But with the help of the people around me, 07:05 and the Christian spirit I felt 07:10 from every one of the workers, 07:16 it was really like help to me. 07:23 I consider God has permitted this disease for me 07:31 for a reason. 07:33 And that's to purify my character, 07:42 and prepare me to fit in His eternal kingdom. 07:50 And I pray that He will use me 07:57 to be a blessing to others and glorify Him in my life. 08:04 And I promised God I will 08:10 be His servant for the rest of my life. 08:16 Now you said that even before you found out you had leukemia. 08:19 Yes, because I am a servant of God. 08:23 But I'm going to serve Him more from now on. 08:30 God bless you. 08:32 Now you thought you were coming here 08:34 for a little leg pain, right? 08:35 Yes. [chuckle] 08:38 And you found out now that you 08:40 have a little different situation. 08:42 Yes, as a matter of fact, 08:43 my daughter and her husband came. 08:47 They visited me twice since I was here. 08:51 - All the way from Canada? 08:53 No, the one who lives here, two hours away. 08:56 - Oh, okay. 08:58 She lives in Novato, south of San Francisco. 09:03 When they came, and she saw me walking with them, 09:09 she was really surprised. She was so happy. 09:12 Because before that, 09:15 I couldn't walk really that much. 09:20 And because I walked about 7 miles 09:25 during my stay here, I lost 7-1/2 pounds. 09:31 Wow. Seven miles in one day? 09:34 No, during the time I stayed. 09:40 So are you going to continue on your walking and your program? 09:43 Yes, I feel I put my foot on the first step, 09:49 how to maintain healthy life, 09:55 concerning exercise, drinking enough water, 10:01 and the diet, especially the diet. 10:06 Good for you. God bless you. 10:08 And I want to thank you for coming on our program 10:11 and sharing with the viewers how you feel. 10:15 It's good to see you, 10:17 and I'll see you a little bit later. 10:19 And thank you, friends, for joining us. 10:21 But don't go away, 10:23 because in a moment we'll be talking with Dr. David DeRose. 10:28 Well, you've done very well. 10:36 Do you have diabetes, 10:37 heart disease, high blood pressure, 10:40 or do you weigh too much? 10:42 Hi, my name is Dr. Ing, and I'd like to tell you 10:45 about our 18-day NEWSTART lifestyle program. 10:49 It includes a comprehensive medical evaluation 10:51 with laboratory studies and an exercise stress test, 10:55 physician consultations, 10:57 culinary school, 10:59 and an opportunity to walk on beautiful trails 11:02 in the foothills of the Sierras. 11:06 Your health is one of the most 11:08 important things that you have. Don't wait. 11:10 Give us a call at: 11:15 Or visit our website: 11:34 Welcome back, friends, and as I promised, 11:36 Dr. David DeRose. How are you, Doctor? 11:38 Great. Good to be with you, Ron. 11:40 It's always good to see you. 11:41 - It's good to be here on the show again. 11:43 Yeah, and I want to get right into this interview 11:46 about your patient, and what has transpired. 11:49 She came here for one particular ailment, 11:52 perhaps two, 11:54 but found out that she has leukemia. 11:57 Is that really what you call it? 11:59 Well, maybe first we should emphasize the positives, 12:02 like Georgette did, 12:03 and that is she made a lot of progress while she was here 12:06 with her sciatica, her back pain. 12:08 lost weight, improved her cholesterol, 12:10 a number of the things that she mentioned. 12:12 But there was that one big surprise. 12:14 And you know, as a physician who's an educator, 12:17 that's my role, you always think you're 12:20 communicating very clearly to patients, 12:22 and it's sometimes quite sobering 12:25 to listen to what they've heard you telling them. 12:27 Like we just did, right? 12:29 Yeah, and just to... 12:31 Because Georgette has shared this 12:32 with our worldwide audience, 12:34 it's very simple to articulate 12:37 a little bit more about her situation. 12:38 Because normally, for those who just tuned in on this show, 12:41 we don't just start talking about people's health issues 12:44 unless they've mentioned them 12:45 and they're clear they're open to that. 12:47 But in Georgette's case, 12:49 she had a very high white blood cell count. 12:51 And in going over her history, 12:53 this seemed to have been a problem for some 5 years. 12:57 And no one had ever really looked into it further. 13:01 And as we did some more testing, 13:04 the most consistent explanation for what she had 13:08 was something that we call chronic lymphocytic leukemia. 13:12 When people hear leukemia, 13:15 they think of blood cancers that kill people rapidly. 13:17 Those are the acute leukemias. 13:19 There's another group of leukemias that are chronic. 13:22 And her picture was most consistent with 13:25 this chronic lymphocytic leukemia. 13:26 Lymphocytic refers to the type of 13:28 blood cell that's being overproduced. 13:31 And so as you meet with someone, meet with their family, 13:34 try to explain this, 13:36 she actually...We haven't confirmed that diagnosis. 13:39 It requires extra testing, special testing, to do that. 13:43 It looks like that, 13:44 but she is going to need additional testing, 13:46 and she wanted to have that done in Canada 13:48 because she has... 13:49 I guess she's a Canadian citizen 13:51 and has health coverage there in Canada. 13:53 Now did you speak with the doctors in Canada? 13:56 Or did you suggest that certain tests be done? 14:01 Actually, we had quite a bit of dialogue. 14:03 It so happens that one of Georgette's family members 14:06 is an internal medicine specialist. 14:08 I was in consultation with a hematologist, 14:11 who is a specialist in blood diseases. 14:13 And between me and the family, 14:15 there was communication with a cancer center in Canada. 14:19 So basically, between the advice, the insights, 14:22 of all these different experts, 14:24 we've kind of come up with a plan, 14:27 and that's what Georgette will be following. 14:29 The exciting thing about this type of cancer, 14:31 CLL it's sometimes abbreviated, 14:34 is sometimes it's very indolent. 14:36 And if the history that we've gotten is really correct, 14:39 that she's had this for 5 years and wasn't even aware of it, 14:42 it's possible and in fact perhaps likely, 14:45 that she has a more indolent variety 14:47 that hopefully, in the very best case scenario, 14:51 could never bother her, 14:52 at least in any significant way. 14:55 Worst case scenario, it could become very aggressive 14:57 and cause serious problems. 15:00 So at this point there's still a lot we don't know. 15:02 But when you mention the word cancer to a person, 15:05 you know, you can see what Georgette is going through. 15:08 I mean, that's typically the response you get. 15:10 And here, in our NEWSTART program, 15:13 we're used to helping people feel better 15:16 and getting them off their medicines. 15:17 This is not something we look forward to, 15:20 making a diagnosis that someone hasn't had in the past. 15:24 Well, I appreciate your comment, Doctor, 15:28 and I'd like to shift a little bit and talk 15:31 as you initially said, about the positive. 15:33 Because she did make some tremendous accomplishments! 15:37 And she's so wonderful, to listen to her testimony 15:40 and how grateful she is in spite of whatever is happening. 15:44 But let's talk about this pain that she had in her leg. 15:48 She had had this pain for some time. 15:51 And she came all the way from Europe 15:54 to come through this program. Why here? 15:57 Yeah, first started in Egypt, went through... 15:58 I mean it took her... She had to change planes 16:00 like four times. 16:01 And that's real commitment, if you've flown recently. 16:03 You know, to sit in four different airports. 16:06 But Georgette really had a problem 16:09 that's very common in America called sciatica. 16:11 It's what she mentioned. 16:13 Sciatica is a lay term. 16:15 We sometimes use it even in medical circles. 16:17 It's where one of the disks, one of the cushioning 16:20 membranes, if you will, between the vertebrae, 16:23 between the bones in the back, is bulging 16:26 and pressing on a nerve. 16:28 That pressure on the nerve can cause pain 16:31 that can go down to the thigh, 16:32 into the leg, even into the feet 16:34 in more serious cases. 16:35 Generally as a rule, 16:37 the further down it goes into the leg, 16:38 usually the worse the problem is. 16:40 And so, I've heard in the past, 16:43 and being a massage therapist myself, 16:46 with a little manipulation and walking and movement, 16:49 perhaps stretching, it often just heals itself. 16:52 Yeah, there are a number of techniques that can be helpful. 16:54 I mean, there's anti-inflammatory things, 16:56 and here in NEWSTART, the diet we use 16:59 is an anti-inflammatory diet. 17:01 Animal products in general tend to make inflammation worse. 17:04 And so as we use this plant-focused diet, 17:08 this total vegetarian diet, 17:09 that in itself can help with inflammatory problems. 17:13 But then we're doing the hydrotherapy, the massage, 17:16 the stretching maneuvers, 17:17 and these things do definitely have a big role 17:19 in dealing with all kinds of musculoskeletal problems. 17:23 It's wonderful that people can hear, 17:26 and people are watching us right now, 17:28 and know that there's help here 17:30 for a number of different illnesses. 17:33 And maybe we can talk about that briefly. 17:36 What else can we expect 17:40 here at Weimar at our NEWSTART program, 17:43 for those viewers who are 17:45 in pain or just don't know what's going on with them? 17:47 Well basically, we are always taking time with patients, 17:52 trying to explore things. 17:53 We're not a diagnostic center. 17:55 I mean, we're not a Mayo Clinic of the West, 17:58 so we don't have high-tech MRIs 18:01 and diagnostic equipment. 18:03 But one thing that we have 18:04 that patients continue to identify as being very powerful 18:07 is we just have a program set up 18:09 where we spend time with patients. 18:10 And many times people, even if they've got a disease 18:13 that's reversible with lifestyle, 18:15 they'll say, "Well how come no one ever told us this?" 18:18 "How come no one mentioned that with my diabetes 18:21 I could reverse it with lifestyle changes?" 18:23 "How come no one told me that 18:24 my high blood pressure might respond 18:26 to doing more exercise 18:28 or making some dietary adjustments 18:30 or managing my stress better, 18:32 or getting rid of caffeine in my program?" 18:34 Whatever it might be. 18:36 How do you respond to those questions? 18:37 Well, basically what we say is, 18:39 the Western medical system, 18:41 because of all kinds of pressures, 18:43 has really moved largely into 18:45 a much more assembly line type process in many settings. 18:50 Most doctors, even if they're interested 18:52 in teaching their patients, don't have that luxury. 18:54 Because they have to see so many patients per hour, 18:57 or they're not going to pay the overhead, 19:00 and they're not in a private practice anymore. 19:02 They're reporting to some organization 19:04 that owns the practice who's putting pressure on them 19:06 to see so many people in so much time. 19:08 I have a good friend, an orthopedic surgeon, 19:11 who got extremely frustrated in this kind of system. 19:14 They were giving him like 10 minutes 19:16 to see a new patient, 19:17 and then they were double booking him, 19:19 so he had 5 minutes. 19:20 And he was the kind of guy who wanted 19:22 to help people with these issues. 19:23 So it's not necessarily a fault of 19:25 the doctors or their training, 19:27 It's just the system that we're in. 19:29 As we try to cut costs in medical care, 19:32 as we decrease reimbursements. 19:34 doctors in medical practices feel they have 19:36 less time to spend with patients. 19:38 Here we've deliberately gone against that tide. 19:41 We said, "Look, our priority is educating people, 19:44 helping them to address their diseases more naturally, 19:46 whether it's diabetes, whether it's sciatica, 19:49 whether it's arthritis, intestinal problems, 19:51 I mean, the list goes on and on. 19:52 Well, as you are aware, 19:55 we've had many guests who have come on camera 19:57 and have said, "I can't believe the time 20:00 I'm spending with my doctors!" 20:02 And they feel like they're really getting over, 20:03 because they get to eat with you guys, you know. 20:06 The doctors are in the cafeteria 20:08 with the guests, eating with them. 20:10 The guests get to talk to you. 20:12 I was a guest, as you know. 20:14 And I felt like, 20:15 "Wow, I get to sit with my doctor 20:17 and then I go for a walk and et cetera." 20:19 That's very inspiring and very encouraging. 20:22 Well, it's powerful, because today what's happened is 20:24 most people don't have access 20:26 to someone they feel is really an expert 20:29 or knows their situation. 20:30 And we have lots of information. 20:32 I mean, you just type in anything on the internet. 20:34 And I see patients all the time with this scenario. 20:36 In fact, one of my patients in this last program 20:39 said, "Dr. DeRose, I had to stop going to the internet." 20:42 Because all they do is they read about more and more stuff 20:45 and they don't know how to apply it to themselves. 20:47 They're not a medical expert. 20:49 So it's really powerful when you have 20:50 someone who can help navigate you through that process. 20:53 It's not just doctors. We have health educators, 20:55 people helping you with exercise, 20:57 people with cooking classes, 20:58 hydrotherapy, massage-- there's a whole team 21:01 that really makes the program powerful. 21:03 And I like the way you said that. 21:05 It's the whole team. So it's not any one 21:08 part of the NEWSTART program, but all of it. 21:11 Exactly, and the other part that we can't 21:13 minimize the importance of is the spiritual part. 21:16 Over the years we've all heard 21:18 that the people who've gotten good care, 21:20 they've had a good program, 21:22 but that spiritual ingredient was missing. 21:24 We're whole people, and God is really anxious 21:27 to help us in this whole process of lifestyle change and healing. 21:30 Doctor, I want to thank you for joining us on the program. 21:33 Great to be with you, Ron. - We're running out of time. 21:35 Friends, don't go away. 21:36 We've got an important tip for you right after this. 21:53 Welcome to NEWSTART at Home. 21:55 I'm Dr. David DeRose, your host today, 21:57 and with me is Hildelisa Flickinger, 21:59 a masters-trained nutritionist and registered dietician. 22:03 Hildelisa, it's great to be on the show again with you. 22:06 Glad to be here. 22:08 You've been looking at a real important topic, 22:10 and that is the topic of beverages. 22:13 There's a lot of stuff out there in the shelves 22:16 of stores and gas stations. 22:19 Should we be thinking about what we're drinking? 22:21 Is that important? 22:22 Oh, definitely! We all know the importance 22:25 of proper hydration for our bodies. 22:27 And as you well know, 22:28 there's no system in the body that does not depend on water. 22:32 So now people may be asking, 22:33 "Well, how much water should we drink?" 22:35 And just a basic rule is 22:38 8 to 10 eight-ounce glasses of water a day, 22:40 or just enough to keep the urine pale. 22:44 Okay, now that's for an adult, presumably. 22:45 Yes. 22:47 Because I know you've got some young children. 22:48 You're not making them drink 22:49 8 to 10 glasses of water a day, are you? 22:51 No, that might be too much. - Okay. 22:54 Now, another question that people often have is 22:57 "Should we wait until we're hungry? 22:59 I'll just wait until I'm thirsty 23:01 to drink water." 23:02 Well no, you should not wait, 23:04 because by that time you have some degree of dehydration. 23:08 And of course dehydration has many symptoms and problems, 23:12 one of which is that it lowers your metabolic rate. 23:16 And of course, if someone's trying to lose weight, 23:18 that is not good news. 23:20 So drinking more water can actually 23:22 help a person lose weight? 23:24 Yes, and not only that. 23:25 Studies have shown that adequate water intake 23:29 can help decrease the risk of some cancers, 23:32 and cardiovascular disease, and so on and so forth. 23:36 So water is really good stuff. 23:37 But there's a lot of people, Hildelisa-- 23:39 you know it as well as I do-- 23:41 that they say, "Listen. 23:42 I just don't like water." 23:44 What do you do for those people? 23:45 That's right. 23:47 Now, there are so many beverages out there 23:48 of course, and so many options for people. 23:51 But still, what do you think is the best 23:53 option for supplying our fluid needs? 23:56 Well it seems pretty clear to me from the medical research 23:58 literature that it's just pure H2O. 24:01 That's right - water. 24:02 Now there are some recent trends out there 24:05 in beverages, specifically in bottled waters. 24:09 And you've probably seen them. 24:12 You really can't miss them. 24:13 When you go to the grocery store you see the big displays, 24:16 the colorful bottles. 24:18 And one of the most popular is 24:20 one that they have added vitamins 24:22 and other ingredients to. 24:26 So these so-called flavored waters, 24:28 is that what we're talking about? 24:29 Yes, they're called enhanced waters. 24:31 Okay, enhanced waters. 24:33 That's right, and I have a bottle of it right here. 24:36 This is one of the most popular ones. 24:39 And I gave you a label, 24:41 and you're going to help me read the label. 24:43 We're going to see what comes 24:44 together with those added vitamins. 24:46 So what is the serving size? 24:48 Okay, serving size...per... 24:51 That container there, 24:53 it's got 2 -1/2 servings, it says. 24:56 That's right. The serving size is 8 ounces, 24:59 but it is a 20-ounce bottle. 25:01 So it has 2-1/2 servings. 25:03 Now how many calories per serving does it say? 25:06 Okay, I'm looking here. 25:08 Wow, it's got 13 grams of sugar in it, 25:11 and calories, 50! 25:13 Fifty calories! 25:15 And that is per serving. 25:16 So in a bottle you're going to have 125 calories 25:19 and 32-1/2 grams of sugar. 25:22 That's 8 teaspoons of sugar, 25:23 just a little less than a can of soda. 25:26 Eight teaspoons of sugar? 25:27 And they're selling this as... 25:29 Why do they call that enhanced? 25:30 I like flavored better than enhanced. 25:32 Enhanced makes it sound like it's better. 25:34 Yes, it's enhanced because it has added vitamins. 25:37 They've added vitamin A, vitamin C, and B vitamins. 25:41 But if you look closely at the label, 25:43 you'd have to drink the whole bottle 25:45 to get 100 percent of the RDAs for the B vitamins. 25:49 So basically if you're eating a balanced diet 25:53 or just taking a multivitamin, 25:56 you're just not going to get any benefit 25:58 from drinking these enhanced waters. 26:00 So this is looking more like a soft drink, 26:03 not a nutrition supplement. 26:05 Wow, so I would be better off if I'm concerned about 26:08 my vitamins, to just take a pill, 26:10 a multivitamin, with a good, pure glass of water, 26:15 maybe even from my tap. 26:17 That's right, and you won't get all the calories from this, 26:19 which is not going to help your weight. 26:22 Tremendous. 26:24 Hildelisa Flickinger has just given us another great insight 26:26 into how we can improve our health 26:28 and prevent weight gain. 26:31 Make a point of drinking adequate amounts of water 26:34 and choose the simple variety of water 26:37 that God made in the beginning-- just pure H2O. 26:40 I'm Dr. David DeRose. 26:41 You can get more information at: 26:53 Modern views of evolution stem all the way back 26:56 to theories developed in the mid-1800s. 26:59 Out of the same time period came ideas that shape 27:02 our educational system today. 27:05 The Common School Movement, for example, 27:08 saw schools more like a factory, 27:10 with students blindly memorizing instruction 27:12 rather than thinking for themselves. 27:15 Their curriculum was rigid and theoretical. 27:17 Instead of being flexible and practical, 27:20 it was designed to conform the individual 27:23 into a specific ideological mold 27:26 that fit the needs of an old industrial era 27:28 long since passed. 27:31 Just like our view of creation in six literal days, 27:34 we believe the Bible contains an educational blueprint 27:39 radically different from the one we see now. 27:54 Well friends, that's it for today. 27:56 Pick up the phone and give us a call at: 28:01 And may the Lord richly bless you 28:03 in all ways. |
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