Hi friends, and welcome to
another edition of NEWSTART Now.
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We have a guest that's
from halfway around the world.
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This is Georgette Gindi,
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and she is from the Middle East,
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and we're going
to look at a clip
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when she first arrived here.
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I don't have any
diabetes or high blood pressure,
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but all what I'm
suffering is sciatica.
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I chose the NEWSTART program
because I want to lose weight,
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and this is the
cause of my pain.
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The doctor told me I
have to lose 14 kilos,
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and it is very hard
to lose a kilo at my age.
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If God's will I will
be healed from sciatica,
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I'm going to give all my
time for the service of God.
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Welcome back
friends, and in our studio...
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How are you, young
lady? - I'm fine, thank you.
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Good to see you. - Thank you.
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Now you described
during that interview
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that you needed
to lose 14 kilos.
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A lot of our viewers are
not sure what that means.
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Is that 30 pounds?
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Almost, yeah. -
Almost 30 pounds.
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Okay, and how much weight have
you lost since you've been here?
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I lost 7 and a
half pounds. - Good!
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In such a short time.
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And how is your
leg and your situation?
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I can tell you I
am 95 percent healed.
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- Alright!
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And the 5 percent is my part.
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I'm going to maintain what I've
learned at the NEWSTART program.
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- Praise God.
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Now I know we've had
a little bit of bad news
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since you've been here.
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Tell us what happened.
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Yeah, the first
few days they asked
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to draw blood from everybody.
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So I did.
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The next day Doctor
DeRose came and told me,
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"The lab wants
another draw from you
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because they want to
make sure of something."
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So the drew the
second time, blood.
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And the next day Doctor
DeRose called me in the office
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and he informed me of bad news.
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And that is, I had leukemia.
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So before you came
to the NEWSTART program,
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you had no idea
that all of a sudden this
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leukemia was going to rear up.
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But you found out here.
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Well, as a matter of
fact, two months ago,
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before I came to NEWSTART,
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I had a blood picture in Egypt.
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And it showed that my
white blood cells were high,
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but they didn't mention
anything about leukemia.
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So it was a
surprise and a shock to me.
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Okay, so now you
found out you have leukemia.
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Then what did you decide to do?
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What did you and
Doctor DeRose figure out?
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Well, we called my
daughter in Canada,
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and she got the
reports from the lab
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and the reports
from Doctor DeRose,
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who is my doctor here.
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And she made an appointment
in the hospital in Canada
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to see a specialist
to have some more tests
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on the 11th of June.
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But I just came back from
the doctor's office right now,
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- Just before you
came into the studio?
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- And you have a
smile on your face.
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- I know you've got
something good to share.
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Yes. Doctor DeRose told me
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the result of the lab
just came a few hours ago,
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and it says that my
white blood cells are better,
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my cholesterol is better,
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and I lost 7-1/2 pounds,
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and my situation is
much, much better than
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when I came to NEWSTART.
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Well, it seems to me,
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as a result of
coming to NEWSTART,
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maybe the
program saved your life?
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Yes, it did.
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Because you didn't
know you had leukemia.
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And now Doctor DeRose,
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who is a fine
doctor and an internist,
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he discovers you
have this leukemia,
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and because you've
been on the program
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you're starting to get
healthier from the leukemia.
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Correct?
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Yes. - Okay.
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By the way, how
is it that you got to
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NEWSTART to begin with?
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I mean, all the way from Kuwait?
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That's halfway
around the world, isn't it?
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Yes.
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I always watch 3ABN channel,
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in Egypt and in Kuwait.
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In Egypt and
Kuwait they have 3ABN?
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Yes. - Okay.
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I enjoy the programs on 3ABN.
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All through the
day I can put it on
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and enjoy it.
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It's a wonderful program, yes.
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And did you see our
NEWSTART Now program there?
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Yes.
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So we're reaching
all the way to Kuwait.
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Isn't that marvelous!
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So as a result of seeing
this program, NEWSTART Now,
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on 3ABN, is why you're here.
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Yes. - Praise God.
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- Wow, you just
must be marveled by this.
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- Yes, I'm so thankful that
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God led me to
NEWSTART program here,
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because if I knew of my
situation somewhere else,
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I could have felt so bad.
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But with the help of
the people around me,
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and the Christian spirit I felt
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from every one of the workers,
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it was really like help to me.
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I consider God has
permitted this disease for me
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for a reason.
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And that's to
purify my character,
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and prepare me to fit
in His eternal kingdom.
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And I pray that He will use me
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to be a blessing to others
and glorify Him in my life.
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And I promised God I will
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be His servant for
the rest of my life.
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Now you said that even before
you found out you had leukemia.
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Yes, because I
am a servant of God.
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But I'm going to
serve Him more from now on.
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God bless you.
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Now you thought
you were coming here
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for a little leg pain, right?
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Yes. [chuckle]
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And you found out now that you
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have a little
different situation.
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Yes, as a matter of fact,
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my daughter and
her husband came.
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They visited me
twice since I was here.
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- All the way from Canada?
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No, the one who
lives here, two hours away.
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- Oh, okay.
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She lives in Novato,
south of San Francisco.
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When they came, and she
saw me walking with them,
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she was really
surprised. She was so happy.
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Because before that,
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I couldn't walk
really that much.
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And because I
walked about 7 miles
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during my stay
here, I lost 7-1/2 pounds.
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Wow. Seven miles in one day?
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No, during the time I stayed.
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So are you going to continue on
your walking and your program?
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Yes, I feel I put my
foot on the first step,
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how to maintain healthy life,
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concerning exercise,
drinking enough water,
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and the diet,
especially the diet.
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Good for you. God bless you.
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And I want to thank you
for coming on our program
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and sharing with the
viewers how you feel.
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It's good to see you,
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and I'll see you
a little bit later.
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And thank you,
friends, for joining us.
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But don't go away,
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because in a moment we'll be
talking with Dr. David DeRose.
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Well, you've done very well.
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Do you have diabetes,
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heart disease,
high blood pressure,
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or do you weigh too much?
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Hi, my name is Dr. Ing,
and I'd like to tell you
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about our 18-day
NEWSTART lifestyle program.
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It includes a
comprehensive medical evaluation
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with laboratory studies
and an exercise stress test,
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physician consultations,
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culinary school,
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and an opportunity to
walk on beautiful trails
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in the foothills of the Sierras.
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Your health is one of the most
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important things
that you have. Don't wait.
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Give us a call at:
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Or visit our website:
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Welcome back,
friends, and as I promised,
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Dr. David DeRose.
How are you, Doctor?
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Great. Good to be with you, Ron.
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It's always good to see you.
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- It's good to be
here on the show again.
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Yeah, and I want to get
right into this interview
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about your patient,
and what has transpired.
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She came here for
one particular ailment,
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perhaps two,
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but found out
that she has leukemia.
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Is that really what you call it?
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Well, maybe first we
should emphasize the positives,
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like Georgette did,
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and that is she made a lot
of progress while she was here
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with her
sciatica, her back pain.
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lost weight,
improved her cholesterol,
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a number of the
things that she mentioned.
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But there was
that one big surprise.
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And you know, as a
physician who's an educator,
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that's my role,
you always think you're
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communicating very
clearly to patients,
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and it's
sometimes quite sobering
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to listen to what
they've heard you telling them.
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Like we just did, right?
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Yeah, and just to...
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Because
Georgette has shared this
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with our worldwide audience,
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it's very simple to articulate
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a little bit more
about her situation.
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Because normally, for those
who just tuned in on this show,
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we don't just start talking
about people's health issues
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unless they've mentioned them
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and they're clear
they're open to that.
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But in Georgette's case,
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she had a very high
white blood cell count.
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And in going over her history,
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this seemed to have been
a problem for some 5 years.
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And no one had ever
really looked into it further.
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And as we did some more testing,
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the most consistent
explanation for what she had
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was something that we call
chronic lymphocytic leukemia.
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When people hear leukemia,
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they think of blood cancers
that kill people rapidly.
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Those are the acute leukemias.
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There's another group of
leukemias that are chronic.
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And her picture was
most consistent with
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this chronic
lymphocytic leukemia.
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Lymphocytic
refers to the type of
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blood cell that's
being overproduced.
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And so as you meet with
someone, meet with their family,
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try to explain this,
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she actually...We haven't
confirmed that diagnosis.
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It requires extra testing,
special testing, to do that.
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It looks like that,
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but she is going to
need additional testing,
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and she wanted to
have that done in Canada
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because she has...
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I guess she's a Canadian citizen
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and has health
coverage there in Canada.
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Now did you speak
with the doctors in Canada?
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Or did you suggest
that certain tests be done?
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Actually, we had
quite a bit of dialogue.
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It so happens that one of
Georgette's family members
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is an internal
medicine specialist.
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I was in consultation
with a hematologist,
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who is a
specialist in blood diseases.
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And between me and the family,
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there was communication
with a cancer center in Canada.
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So basically, between
the advice, the insights,
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of all these different experts,
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we've kind of
come up with a plan,
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and that's what
Georgette will be following.
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The exciting thing
about this type of cancer,
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CLL it's sometimes abbreviated,
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is sometimes it's very indolent.
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And if the history that
we've gotten is really correct,
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that she's had this for 5 years
and wasn't even aware of it,
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it's possible and
in fact perhaps likely,
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that she has a
more indolent variety
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that hopefully, in the
very best case scenario,
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could never bother her,
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at least in any significant way.
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Worst case scenario, it
could become very aggressive
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and cause serious problems.
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So at this point there's
still a lot we don't know.
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But when you mention
the word cancer to a person,
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you know, you can see what
Georgette is going through.
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I mean, that's
typically the response you get.
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And here, in our
NEWSTART program,
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we're used to
helping people feel better
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and getting them
off their medicines.
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This is not
something we look forward to,
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making a diagnosis that
someone hasn't had in the past.
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Well, I appreciate
your comment, Doctor,
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and I'd like to
shift a little bit and talk
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as you initially
said, about the positive.
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Because she did make some
tremendous accomplishments!
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And she's so wonderful,
to listen to her testimony
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and how grateful she is in
spite of whatever is happening.
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But let's talk about this
pain that she had in her leg.
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She had had this
pain for some time.
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And she came all
the way from Europe
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to come through
this program. Why here?
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Yeah, first started
in Egypt, went through...
00:15:57.21\00:15:58.66
I mean it took her...
She had to change planes
00:15:58.67\00:16:00.21
like four times.
00:16:00.30\00:16:01.36
And that's real commitment,
if you've flown recently.
00:16:01.37\00:16:03.51
You know, to sit in
four different airports.
00:16:03.75\00:16:06.33
But Georgette
really had a problem
00:16:06.48\00:16:09.42
that's very common in
America called sciatica.
00:16:09.43\00:16:11.87
It's what she mentioned.
00:16:11.88\00:16:13.09
Sciatica is a lay term.
00:16:13.36\00:16:15.15
We sometimes use it
even in medical circles.
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It's where one of the
disks, one of the cushioning
00:16:17.36\00:16:20.33
membranes, if you
will, between the vertebrae,
00:16:20.48\00:16:23.69
between the bones
in the back, is bulging
00:16:23.70\00:16:26.06
and pressing on a nerve.
00:16:26.12\00:16:28.06
That pressure on
the nerve can cause pain
00:16:28.09\00:16:30.87
that can go down to the thigh,
00:16:31.03\00:16:32.48
into the leg, even into the feet
00:16:32.49\00:16:34.12
in more serious cases.
00:16:34.13\00:16:35.60
Generally as a rule,
00:16:35.69\00:16:36.87
the further down
it goes into the leg,
00:16:36.88\00:16:38.36
usually the
worse the problem is.
00:16:38.37\00:16:40.18
And so, I've heard in the past,
00:16:40.78\00:16:43.18
and being a
massage therapist myself,
00:16:43.27\00:16:46.09
with a little manipulation
and walking and movement,
00:16:46.15\00:16:49.12
perhaps stretching, it
often just heals itself.
00:16:49.13\00:16:52.15
Yeah, there are a number of
techniques that can be helpful.
00:16:52.42\00:16:54.84
I mean, there's
anti-inflammatory things,
00:16:54.87\00:16:56.81
and here in
NEWSTART, the diet we use
00:16:56.82\00:16:59.15
is an anti-inflammatory diet.
00:16:59.39\00:17:01.12
Animal products in general
tend to make inflammation worse.
00:17:01.21\00:17:04.39
And so as we use
this plant-focused diet,
00:17:04.40\00:17:08.09
this total vegetarian diet,
00:17:08.12\00:17:09.84
that in itself can help
with inflammatory problems.
00:17:09.87\00:17:13.27
But then we're doing the
hydrotherapy, the massage,
00:17:13.33\00:17:16.03
the stretching maneuvers,
00:17:16.09\00:17:17.39
and these things do
definitely have a big role
00:17:17.54\00:17:19.57
in dealing with all kinds
of musculoskeletal problems.
00:17:19.66\00:17:22.57
It's wonderful
that people can hear,
00:17:23.60\00:17:26.30
and people are
watching us right now,
00:17:26.36\00:17:28.39
and know that there's help here
00:17:28.42\00:17:30.39
for a number of
different illnesses.
00:17:30.51\00:17:33.48
And maybe we can
talk about that briefly.
00:17:33.60\00:17:36.42
What else can we expect
00:17:36.57\00:17:40.00
here at Weimar at
our NEWSTART program,
00:17:40.18\00:17:42.69
for those viewers who are
00:17:43.03\00:17:45.09
in pain or just don't
know what's going on with them?
00:17:45.15\00:17:47.63
Well basically, we are always
taking time with patients,
00:17:47.87\00:17:52.30
trying to explore things.
00:17:52.39\00:17:53.45
We're not a diagnostic center.
00:17:53.46\00:17:55.27
I mean, we're not a
Mayo Clinic of the West,
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so we don't have high-tech MRIs
00:17:58.12\00:18:01.36
and diagnostic equipment.
00:18:01.39\00:18:03.15
But one thing that we have
00:18:03.24\00:18:04.66
that patients continue to
identify as being very powerful
00:18:04.67\00:18:07.42
is we just have a program set up
00:18:07.51\00:18:09.21
where we spend
time with patients.
00:18:09.22\00:18:10.60
And many times people,
even if they've got a disease
00:18:10.69\00:18:13.45
that's
reversible with lifestyle,
00:18:13.48\00:18:15.36
they'll say, "Well how
come no one ever told us this?"
00:18:15.54\00:18:17.78
"How come no one
mentioned that with my diabetes
00:18:18.12\00:18:20.81
I could reverse it
with lifestyle changes?"
00:18:21.00\00:18:23.15
"How come no one told me that
00:18:23.24\00:18:24.39
my high blood
pressure might respond
00:18:24.40\00:18:26.54
to doing more exercise
00:18:26.63\00:18:28.69
or making some
dietary adjustments
00:18:28.70\00:18:30.57
or managing my stress better,
00:18:30.63\00:18:32.30
or getting rid of
caffeine in my program?"
00:18:32.36\00:18:34.87
Whatever it might be.
00:18:34.88\00:18:36.12
How do you respond
to those questions?
00:18:36.21\00:18:37.45
Well, basically what we say is,
00:18:37.75\00:18:39.42
the Western medical system,
00:18:39.69\00:18:41.39
because of all
kinds of pressures,
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has really moved largely into
00:18:43.21\00:18:45.69
a much more assembly line
type process in many settings.
00:18:45.87\00:18:50.33
Most doctors, even
if they're interested
00:18:50.34\00:18:52.06
in teaching their patients,
don't have that luxury.
00:18:52.07\00:18:54.24
Because they have to see
so many patients per hour,
00:18:54.30\00:18:57.42
or they're not
going to pay the overhead,
00:18:57.43\00:19:00.03
and they're not in a
private practice anymore.
00:19:00.04\00:19:02.09
They're reporting
to some organization
00:19:02.24\00:19:04.09
that owns the practice
who's putting pressure on them
00:19:04.15\00:19:06.57
to see so many
people in so much time.
00:19:06.60\00:19:08.42
I have a good friend,
an orthopedic surgeon,
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who got extremely frustrated
in this kind of system.
00:19:11.81\00:19:14.18
They were giving
him like 10 minutes
00:19:14.21\00:19:16.36
to see a new patient,
00:19:16.42\00:19:17.63
and then they were
double booking him,
00:19:17.75\00:19:19.12
so he had 5 minutes.
00:19:19.13\00:19:20.36
And he was the
kind of guy who wanted
00:19:20.45\00:19:21.60
to help people
with these issues.
00:19:21.61\00:19:23.18
So it's not
necessarily a fault of
00:19:23.30\00:19:25.42
the doctors or their training,
00:19:25.43\00:19:27.24
It's just the
system that we're in.
00:19:27.45\00:19:29.24
As we try to cut
costs in medical care,
00:19:29.36\00:19:32.36
as we decrease reimbursements.
00:19:32.39\00:19:34.06
doctors in medical
practices feel they have
00:19:34.15\00:19:36.60
less time to
spend with patients.
00:19:36.61\00:19:38.48
Here we've deliberately
gone against that tide.
00:19:38.63\00:19:41.27
We said, "Look, our
priority is educating people,
00:19:41.39\00:19:44.24
helping them to address
their diseases more naturally,
00:19:44.30\00:19:46.69
whether it's
diabetes, whether it's sciatica,
00:19:46.78\00:19:49.09
whether it's
arthritis, intestinal problems,
00:19:49.18\00:19:51.12
I mean, the list goes on and on.
00:19:51.15\00:19:52.63
Well, as you are aware,
00:19:52.81\00:19:55.06
we've had many guests
who have come on camera
00:19:55.15\00:19:57.75
and have said, "I
can't believe the time
00:19:57.78\00:20:00.00
I'm spending with my doctors!"
00:20:00.01\00:20:01.69
And they feel like
they're really getting over,
00:20:02.03\00:20:03.87
because they get to eat
with you guys, you know.
00:20:03.88\00:20:06.42
The doctors are in the cafeteria
00:20:06.45\00:20:08.54
with the guests,
eating with them.
00:20:08.55\00:20:10.57
The guests get to talk to you.
00:20:10.58\00:20:12.66
I was a guest, as you know.
00:20:12.78\00:20:14.48
And I felt like,
00:20:14.51\00:20:15.66
"Wow, I get to
sit with my doctor
00:20:15.67\00:20:17.36
and then I go for a
walk and et cetera."
00:20:17.39\00:20:19.24
That's very
inspiring and very encouraging.
00:20:19.39\00:20:22.00
Well, it's powerful,
because today what's happened is
00:20:22.30\00:20:24.60
most people don't have access
00:20:24.61\00:20:26.60
to someone they
feel is really an expert
00:20:26.61\00:20:29.00
or knows their situation.
00:20:29.01\00:20:30.57
And we have lots of information.
00:20:30.58\00:20:32.33
I mean, you just type in
anything on the internet.
00:20:32.36\00:20:34.39
And I see patients all
the time with this scenario.
00:20:34.40\00:20:36.60
In fact, one of my
patients in this last program
00:20:36.81\00:20:39.27
said, "Dr. DeRose, I had to
stop going to the internet."
00:20:39.28\00:20:42.42
Because all they do is they
read about more and more stuff
00:20:42.63\00:20:45.21
and they don't know how
to apply it to themselves.
00:20:45.48\00:20:47.45
They're not a medical expert.
00:20:47.57\00:20:49.15
So it's really
powerful when you have
00:20:49.24\00:20:50.60
someone who can help navigate
you through that process.
00:20:50.63\00:20:53.27
It's not just doctors.
We have health educators,
00:20:53.39\00:20:55.45
people helping
you with exercise,
00:20:55.63\00:20:57.06
people with cooking classes,
00:20:57.24\00:20:58.54
hydrotherapy,
massage-- there's a whole team
00:20:58.63\00:21:00.87
that really makes
the program powerful.
00:21:01.21\00:21:03.15
And I like the
way you said that.
00:21:03.66\00:21:05.42
It's the whole
team. So it's not any one
00:21:05.45\00:21:07.81
part of the NEWSTART
program, but all of it.
00:21:08.00\00:21:11.63
Exactly, and the
other part that we can't
00:21:11.87\00:21:13.66
minimize the importance
of is the spiritual part.
00:21:13.67\00:21:15.78
Over the years we've all heard
00:21:16.00\00:21:18.09
that the people
who've gotten good care,
00:21:18.12\00:21:20.33
they've had a good program,
00:21:20.34\00:21:22.09
but that spiritual
ingredient was missing.
00:21:22.10\00:21:24.54
We're whole people,
and God is really anxious
00:21:24.57\00:21:27.21
to help us in this whole process
of lifestyle change and healing.
00:21:27.22\00:21:30.36
Doctor, I want to thank you
for joining us on the program.
00:21:30.84\00:21:33.45
Great to be with you, Ron.
- We're running out of time.
00:21:33.46\00:21:35.27
Friends, don't go away.
00:21:35.57\00:21:36.81
We've got an important
tip for you right after this.
00:21:36.84\00:21:39.42
Welcome to NEWSTART at Home.
00:21:53.39\00:21:55.00
I'm Dr. David
DeRose, your host today,
00:21:55.01\00:21:57.33
and with me is
Hildelisa Flickinger,
00:21:57.42\00:21:59.66
a masters-trained nutritionist
and registered dietician.
00:21:59.78\00:22:03.51
Hildelisa, it's great to
be on the show again with you.
00:22:03.57\00:22:06.24
Glad to be here.
00:22:06.36\00:22:07.66
You've been looking at
a real important topic,
00:22:08.03\00:22:10.66
and that is the
topic of beverages.
00:22:10.72\00:22:13.57
There's a lot of stuff
out there in the shelves
00:22:13.66\00:22:15.87
of stores and gas stations.
00:22:16.00\00:22:19.03
Should we be thinking
about what we're drinking?
00:22:19.06\00:22:21.54
Is that important?
00:22:21.57\00:22:22.63
Oh, definitely! We
all know the importance
00:22:22.81\00:22:25.09
of proper
hydration for our bodies.
00:22:25.15\00:22:26.87
And as you well know,
00:22:27.18\00:22:28.51
there's no system in the body
that does not depend on water.
00:22:28.57\00:22:32.03
So now people may be asking,
00:22:32.27\00:22:33.75
"Well, how much
water should we drink?"
00:22:33.81\00:22:35.51
And just a basic rule is
00:22:35.66\00:22:38.03
8 to 10 eight-ounce
glasses of water a day,
00:22:38.09\00:22:40.78
or just enough to
keep the urine pale.
00:22:40.79\00:22:43.78
Okay, now that's for
an adult, presumably.
00:22:44.18\00:22:45.72
Yes.
00:22:45.75\00:22:46.75
Because I know you've
got some young children.
00:22:46.76\00:22:48.36
You're not making them drink
00:22:48.42\00:22:49.75
8 to 10 glasses of
water a day, are you?
00:22:49.76\00:22:51.63
No, that might
be too much. - Okay.
00:22:51.64\00:22:54.03
Now, another question
that people often have is
00:22:54.39\00:22:57.51
"Should we wait
until we're hungry?
00:22:57.60\00:22:59.03
I'll just wait until I'm thirsty
00:22:59.15\00:23:01.36
to drink water."
00:23:01.42\00:23:02.72
Well no, you should not wait,
00:23:02.81\00:23:04.57
because by that time you
have some degree of dehydration.
00:23:04.58\00:23:08.21
And of course dehydration
has many symptoms and problems,
00:23:08.36\00:23:12.36
one of which is that it
lowers your metabolic rate.
00:23:12.39\00:23:15.75
And of course, if
someone's trying to lose weight,
00:23:16.03\00:23:18.24
that is not good news.
00:23:18.30\00:23:19.84
So drinking more
water can actually
00:23:20.12\00:23:22.27
help a person lose weight?
00:23:22.28\00:23:23.78
Yes, and not only that.
00:23:24.03\00:23:25.60
Studies have shown
that adequate water intake
00:23:25.63\00:23:29.09
can help decrease
the risk of some cancers,
00:23:29.15\00:23:32.39
and cardiovascular
disease, and so on and so forth.
00:23:32.48\00:23:35.75
So water is really good stuff.
00:23:36.24\00:23:37.81
But there's a lot
of people, Hildelisa--
00:23:37.87\00:23:39.45
you know it as well as I do--
00:23:39.54\00:23:41.00
that they say, "Listen.
00:23:41.01\00:23:42.12
I just don't like water."
00:23:42.24\00:23:44.18
What do you do for those people?
00:23:44.24\00:23:45.54
That's right.
00:23:45.55\00:23:46.57
Now, there are so
many beverages out there
00:23:46.60\00:23:48.78
of course, and so
many options for people.
00:23:48.79\00:23:51.36
But still, what do
you think is the best
00:23:51.37\00:23:53.27
option for
supplying our fluid needs?
00:23:53.45\00:23:56.06
Well it seems pretty clear
to me from the medical research
00:23:56.21\00:23:58.39
literature that
it's just pure H2O.
00:23:58.45\00:24:01.15
That's right - water.
00:24:01.42\00:24:02.66
Now there are some
recent trends out there
00:24:02.75\00:24:05.42
in beverages,
specifically in bottled waters.
00:24:05.45\00:24:08.87
And you've probably seen them.
00:24:09.09\00:24:12.00
You really can't miss them.
00:24:12.01\00:24:13.57
When you go to the grocery
store you see the big displays,
00:24:13.66\00:24:16.51
the colorful bottles.
00:24:16.52\00:24:18.00
And one of the most popular is
00:24:18.03\00:24:20.51
one that they
have added vitamins
00:24:20.52\00:24:22.87
and other ingredients to.
00:24:22.88\00:24:26.24
So these
so-called flavored waters,
00:24:26.36\00:24:28.21
is that what
we're talking about?
00:24:28.33\00:24:29.45
Yes, they're
called enhanced waters.
00:24:29.57\00:24:31.72
Okay, enhanced waters.
00:24:31.78\00:24:33.48
That's right, and I have
a bottle of it right here.
00:24:33.66\00:24:36.57
This is one of
the most popular ones.
00:24:36.58\00:24:39.03
And I gave you a label,
00:24:39.15\00:24:41.00
and you're going to
help me read the label.
00:24:41.06\00:24:43.06
We're going to see what comes
00:24:43.09\00:24:44.72
together with
those added vitamins.
00:24:44.75\00:24:46.57
So what is the serving size?
00:24:46.58\00:24:48.51
Okay, serving size...per...
00:24:48.60\00:24:51.21
That container there,
00:24:51.22\00:24:53.18
it's got 2 -1/2
servings, it says.
00:24:53.19\00:24:56.15
That's right. The
serving size is 8 ounces,
00:24:56.27\00:24:59.18
but it is a 20-ounce bottle.
00:24:59.30\00:25:01.39
So it has 2-1/2 servings.
00:25:01.51\00:25:03.54
Now how many calories
per serving does it say?
00:25:03.57\00:25:06.06
Okay, I'm looking here.
00:25:06.21\00:25:07.84
Wow, it's got 13
grams of sugar in it,
00:25:08.09\00:25:11.36
and calories, 50!
00:25:11.48\00:25:13.84
Fifty calories!
00:25:13.87\00:25:15.03
And that is per serving.
00:25:15.18\00:25:16.39
So in a bottle you're
going to have 125 calories
00:25:16.48\00:25:19.60
and 32-1/2 grams of sugar.
00:25:19.63\00:25:22.27
That's 8 teaspoons of sugar,
00:25:22.30\00:25:23.72
just a little less
than a can of soda.
00:25:23.81\00:25:26.06
Eight teaspoons of sugar?
00:25:26.09\00:25:27.57
And they're selling this as...
00:25:27.63\00:25:29.12
Why do they call that enhanced?
00:25:29.15\00:25:30.54
I like flavored
better than enhanced.
00:25:30.63\00:25:32.66
Enhanced makes it
sound like it's better.
00:25:32.69\00:25:34.12
Yes, it's enhanced
because it has added vitamins.
00:25:34.36\00:25:37.21
They've added vitamin A,
vitamin C, and B vitamins.
00:25:37.22\00:25:41.09
But if you look
closely at the label,
00:25:41.15\00:25:43.18
you'd have to
drink the whole bottle
00:25:43.27\00:25:45.36
to get 100 percent of
the RDAs for the B vitamins.
00:25:45.42\00:25:48.75
So basically if
you're eating a balanced diet
00:25:49.00\00:25:53.81
or just taking a multivitamin,
00:25:53.84\00:25:55.84
you're just not
going to get any benefit
00:25:56.03\00:25:58.30
from drinking
these enhanced waters.
00:25:58.36\00:26:00.60
So this is looking
more like a soft drink,
00:26:00.72\00:26:03.39
not a nutrition supplement.
00:26:03.51\00:26:05.30
Wow, so I would be better
off if I'm concerned about
00:26:05.33\00:26:08.03
my vitamins, to
just take a pill,
00:26:08.09\00:26:10.09
a multivitamin, with a
good, pure glass of water,
00:26:10.30\00:26:15.33
maybe even from my tap.
00:26:15.36\00:26:17.00
That's right, and you won't
get all the calories from this,
00:26:17.30\00:26:19.72
which is not going
to help your weight.
00:26:19.75\00:26:22.48
Tremendous.
00:26:22.63\00:26:23.72
Hildelisa Flickinger has just
given us another great insight
00:26:23.81\00:26:26.75
into how we can
improve our health
00:26:26.76\00:26:28.81
and prevent weight gain.
00:26:28.87\00:26:31.24
Make a point of drinking
adequate amounts of water
00:26:31.27\00:26:34.33
and choose the
simple variety of water
00:26:34.39\00:26:37.81
that God made in the
beginning-- just pure H2O.
00:26:37.82\00:26:40.30
I'm Dr. David DeRose.
00:26:40.45\00:26:41.69
You can get more information at:
00:26:41.70\00:26:43.54
Modern views of
evolution stem all the way back
00:26:53.72\00:26:56.33
to theories
developed in the mid-1800s.
00:26:56.36\00:26:58.75
Out of the same time
period came ideas that shape
00:26:59.42\00:27:02.72
our educational system today.
00:27:02.75\00:27:05.00
The Common School
Movement, for example,
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saw schools more like a factory,
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with students blindly
memorizing instruction
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rather than
thinking for themselves.
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Their curriculum was
rigid and theoretical.
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Instead of being
flexible and practical,
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it was designed to
conform the individual
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into a specific ideological mold
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that fit the needs
of an old industrial era
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long since passed.
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Just like our view of
creation in six literal days,
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we believe the Bible contains
an educational blueprint
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radically different
from the one we see now.
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Well friends,
that's it for today.
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Pick up the phone
and give us a call at:
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And may the
Lord richly bless you
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in all ways.
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