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Learning How To Lose Weight And Eat Properly

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Participants: Ron Giannoni (Host), Carol Higgins

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00:23 Hi friends, and welcome to another edition of NEWSTART NOW.
00:27 We have in our studio with us today Carol Higgins,
00:30 all the way from Africa.
00:32 And I'd like to show you a clip when she
00:34 first arrived here at the NEWSTART program.
00:38 Well I had a friend,
00:41 that was here a couple months ago,
00:43 and he and I have been trying to lose
00:45 weight together for many many years.
00:48 I have some arthritis and some digestive issues,
00:51 low blood sugar problems.
00:52 So I just don't want to go into being a diabetic.
00:56 The nutritionist tells me I need to lose about 70 pounds,
01:00 and I'm hoping to gain a better
01:03 understanding of how to eat properly. Yeah.
01:06 Sixty-six years has gotten me this body!
01:09 I don't want to finish out my life
01:11 with this body the way it is.
01:14 That's kind of bottom line-- I'm ready for a change.
01:20 Welcome back friends, and in our studio, Carol.
01:23 How are you, dear? Good to see you!
01:25 Fine, thank you.
01:26 Yeah, now I want to get right into this interview, because
01:29 I know you shared with us before we went on the air here
01:33 that you've gone through some incredible changes.
01:37 Can you speak to us about that?
01:39 Well, if I can get over these tears...
01:41 Ah! Sorry!
01:44 Yes, I have...
01:45 I have really experienced some change,
01:47 and I was thinking today if you could only measure
01:52 attitude in milligrams or inches or something,
01:57 that I've probably grown quite a few inches this...
02:01 this week, these last two and a half weeks,
02:04 because my attitude has changed so much.
02:07 So what I'm hearing you say is
02:09 that maybe you have a little hope?
02:11 I have a lot of hope!
02:13 Because looking at golden years,
02:16 you... you...
02:18 I have hope that my golden years will be happy instead of
02:22 depressing.
02:26 So...
02:27 what are these tears about,
02:29 other than that hope?
02:31 You were experiencing some good changes.
02:33 Can you tell us about that?
02:35 I can. I have a vocational school
02:37 in Uganda at the orphanage.
02:40 And I was thinking about this
02:42 because when the kids come in to us as...
02:45 they're hopeless because they've failed in school,
02:48 and what's left for them is vocational school.
02:52 And so they come in, and I try to get...
02:54 I try--in the first week I try to have them experience success.
02:59 And...
03:01 And at the end of the year they are standing tall.
03:06 And now I have experienced
03:08 coming someplace where I felt hopeless,
03:12 and I'm standing tall.
03:14 - God bless you.
03:16 My blood sugar is down, and my...
03:21 ah, my...what do you call it? Tri... not--
03:24 - Triglycerides?
03:26 Cholesterol? - Cholesterol is down.
03:28 - Down? Yes. - My pulse is down.
03:31 And... - And you're up!
03:32 And I'm up! That's right!
03:34 - All these things are down and you're up!
03:36 I've only lost four pounds, but I've lost three inches.
03:40 - My word. - And I'm just...
03:42 I'm excited that I'm on a...
03:45 I'm on a good path.
03:47 And I want to exercise.
03:48 I was not exercising at all before.
03:51 And I was actually...
03:54 dancing down the path the other day!
03:57 It was very exciting to have energy again.
04:00 - Oh, praise God.
04:03 You know, did Dr. Lukens tell you about
04:05 the lady we had come through the program
04:07 that lost four dress sizes and didn't lose a pound?
04:12 I like that.
04:13 - Well you're just, you're sharing again that
04:17 your body, when it gets in the condition
04:20 it's quote "supposed" to be in,
04:22 the body that God gave us,
04:24 then it doesn't necessarily have to lose weight,
04:28 but you start shrinking.
04:29 It happened to me, as well.
04:31 So what else?
04:32 What else did you like about
04:34 being here at the NEWSTART program?
04:36 Well, I always thought that
04:37 people that ate tofu were really weird.
04:41 - [laughter]
04:42 - Some of us are a little weird!
04:44 - Yeah.
04:45 And now I'm eating tofu and making it.
04:48 - Oh no! - Fixing it myself...
04:50 I hope you don't think that you're getting weird on us.
04:52 I'm afraid I am. - Okay.
04:54 - Well, God bless you for being weird.
04:55 Yep. If this is what weird's about, I'm okay.
04:58 - Good, good.
05:00 So you see vegans and vegetarians
05:04 in a whole new light.
05:06 I do, yeah.
05:07 I'm excited to be able to share this with my family,
05:12 and they're already asking questions, so...
05:14 That's what I'm hoping for,
05:16 is for them to ask questions without me having to
05:19 say, "Do this, do that."
05:21 Because they'll listen if they're asking questions.
05:24 Now I introduced you as coming all the way from Africa,
05:28 from Uganda,
05:29 and on the screen during the first interview
05:34 it said you were from Oregon. - Mhmm.
05:35 Is that where your US home is, in Oregon?
05:39 That's where we're from,
05:40 and that's where our ministry is based from.
05:43 - And how long have you been in Africa?
05:45 We've been there 11 years this month.
05:48 - Wow. - Mhmm.
05:49 What a ministry, to help these poor,
05:51 underprivileged children.
05:53 - It is.
05:54 - Its' probably the toughest thing we've ever done,
05:57 but the most fruitful.
05:59 And we're opening a new cafe when we get back,
06:02 when I get back,
06:03 and it's gonna be...
06:05 vegan.
06:06 Right on. [laughter]
06:08 You'll bring something to these...
06:10 - We're going to start it that way,
06:11 so we don't have anything to change.
06:13 Wonderful, wonderful. - Yep. We'll try it.
06:15 See what happens.
06:17 Okay, so I want to talk about the staff here,
06:18 because we haven't said anything about them.
06:20 You've met of course
06:22 everyone on staff, that is the NEWSTART staff.
06:27 Can you say anything about Viola, for instance,
06:31 our chaplain?
06:33 Oh, she is such a dear spirit.
06:37 I just love her so much,
06:39 and she's gentle, and listened to me,
06:43 and just ministered to me.
06:45 Her teachings were...
06:47 were right on for me
06:49 and ministered to me.
06:51 - Alright. - Yeah.
06:53 - Commitment.
06:54 Commitment? - Mhmm.
06:56 That's the bottom line.
06:59 What about the exercise that you learned here?
07:03 Did you learn how to do some new things with your body?
07:06 I did. I didn't know I could do some of those things.
07:10 Some of them I'm still working on.
07:12 It's not working like it should.
07:15 But yeah, I'm stretching and exercising,
07:19 and Jerry and Rick were both fun to follow.
07:24 Now, what was your favorite part
07:27 of your stay here so far?
07:30 Sally in the kitchen,
07:32 I think, has really put wings to the whole program,
07:37 because without the teaching of cooking,
07:40 how...
07:41 how would we know how to do this?
07:44 And the food was so wonderful.
07:47 You know, Sally's been here like 25 years.
07:50 And she is the cooking school instructor
07:54 Sally Christensen.
07:56 Some of you already know her,
07:58 but some of you are going to meet her
08:00 in the not-too-distant future.
08:01 She's absolutely marvelous, what she does in the kitchen.
08:05 By the way, we have a Reversing Diabetes program
08:09 beginning May 31.
08:11 I don't know if this will broadcast by then,
08:14 but Sally will be participating
08:16 with Neva Brackett in the cooking lectures
08:20 that will be going on there.
08:22 I bought Neva's books. I'm excited about...that.
08:26 - Yes, good for you!
08:27 You know what I really liked about the staff
08:30 is that the doctors walked,
08:33 they ate with us and talked with us.
08:35 We had access to them.
08:37 Literally--I've never been able to ask a doctor just...
08:41 simple little stuff, you know? - Yeah!
08:44 They were accessible to us, and they loved us,
08:46 and they prayed with us.
08:49 That's pretty amazing.
08:50 What Carol is saying is
08:52 not only true, but I want to elaborate a little bit.
08:55 Because usually we go to a doctor and
08:58 we sign in, then the nurse calls us in.
09:01 She takes our blood pressure and
09:03 maybe looks in our ear or our eye or whatever,
09:05 and the the doc comes in, spends 5 minutes--
09:07 that's it!
09:08 Well here the doctors will eat with you,
09:11 because they eat with the guests every day,
09:13 all three meals.
09:15 Not necessarily do we advise three meals for everyone,
09:18 but they're there-- they make themselves available.
09:21 And after your interview with the doctor,
09:24 I know that they take us out--
09:27 they took you out, I'm sure--
09:29 and walked on the trail.
09:30 And what they do is that they observe,
09:32 make sure that you're not strenu--you know,
09:34 hurting yourself, basically.
09:37 - So I think that's wonderful.
09:39 I thought that was just... the cat's meow.
09:42 You know, another thing is,
09:44 I did change.
09:45 The first day, I changed to eating only 2 meals a day.
09:49 And I was AMAZED
09:52 that I wasn't hungry the next morning.
09:54 I was amazed! - Yes!
09:57 And I haven't eaten any meal at night,
10:00 except when we went to Doctor Lukens' house
10:02 that night for fellowship.
10:05 And I was hungry the next morning.
10:07 And no snacks in between, right?
10:09 No, I had no contraband.
10:10 - [laughter] No M&Ms.
10:13 Nope. Nope.
10:15 Well Carol, we've run out of time.
10:16 I want to thank you for being here.
10:18 God bless you in your work in Africa.
10:21 And friends, thank you for joining us,
10:23 but don't go away!
10:24 Because we're going to interview Doctor Lukens in just a moment.
10:29 Well, you've done very well.
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10:38 heart disease, high blood pressure,
10:41 or do you weigh too much?
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11:35 Welcome back, friends, and as I promised, Dr. Lukens.
11:39 It's always so good to see you.
11:41 We've got some exciting people here, huh?
11:43 Yes we do, and I--
11:45 - And they're excited. And you're excited, I can tell!
11:47 We're going to be talking about Carol,
11:50 and I want to get into the situation of
11:54 hypoglycemia. You call it something different?
11:57 - Can you talk about that?
11:58 Yeah, the...the term... - Reactive?
12:00 Yeah, reactive hypoglycemia.
12:02 - Yeah, tell us what that means.
12:04 Well what's happening is that
12:06 a person generally will be overweight,
12:08 and one of the things that they tell them to do is
12:12 eat every two hours.
12:14 Now you can imagine what a good thing that is
12:17 for your digestive system,
12:19 and how easy it is to take care of your weight
12:22 when you're on that, you know.
12:24 But I had a cousin that had that,
12:26 and what they have,
12:27 is they end up by doing this, but...
12:31 because of their being overweight,
12:33 and it's kind of like pre-diabetes,
12:35 frequently they go into full diabetes.
12:37 And she realizes that possibility is there.
12:40 The insulin goes more and more and more,
12:43 and so after a while,
12:45 when they keep pouring out more and more insulin,
12:48 then their pancreas is going to wear out
12:51 because it's overused.
12:52 And then they won't be able to keep the insulin enough
12:57 so that it can help them when they're still overweight.
13:00 So we come back to it again.
13:02 What's the answer to diabetes?
13:04 - Weight loss. Okay.
13:06 How do you get rid of it? Lose the weight.
13:09 How do you lose the weight? Exercise.
13:12 Well how do you get rid of hypoglycemia?
13:15 Three to five miles a day,
13:17 eating whole plant foods, and that's it.
13:20 If it's not going down,
13:22 then there's something wrong with your program.
13:24 So how about this hypoglycemia thing?
13:27 Reactive. It's reactive because
13:29 there's so much insulin that's coming into the situation.
13:32 - How do you slow it down?
13:33 Well, you don't.
13:35 Because the body's going to respond when you eat
13:38 simple carbohydrates.
13:40 And it raises your blood sugar.
13:43 Your body's going to respond.
13:44 It doesn't want that blood sugar to be high.
13:46 because if it continues on being high and high and high,
13:49 then after a while you start getting
13:51 the problems that the diabetics get.
13:54 And so the insulin comes surging in,
13:57 and you know, a half hour, an hour,
14:00 maybe longer after you've finished your meal,
14:04 your blood sugar starts going down,
14:06 and it goes down and down, and...
14:07 it reaches a normal level.
14:09 And then it goes down lower and lower.
14:11 And pretty soon you start feeling anxious,
14:14 you start feeling clammy,
14:16 you start feeling jittery,
14:19 and you start feeling nauseated.
14:21 What is this from?
14:22 It's because when our blood sugar gets too low,
14:26 then adrenalin starts pouring in
14:29 because that will raise the blood sugar.
14:31 And there you go-- you're on this cycle.
14:33 And my cousin had to quit teaching for a while,
14:36 because she would get sick headaches,
14:39 she would actually throw up.
14:42 Sometimes in front of the class she would pass out
14:45 and just fall to the floor.
14:46 I mean, what kind of...?
14:48 How can you teach a class like that?
14:50 This lady is a wonderful missionary
14:53 over in Uganda, and she's seen some things
14:55 that you would never even want to hear about.
14:58 But she's gotten all these orphan kids,
15:00 and she's brought them in,
15:03 and it's a wonderful thing.
15:05 There's over 200 orphans that are there.
15:06 And it keeps building!
15:08 But here she is, she's got all these responsibilities,
15:11 all this stuff that she has to do,
15:12 and she gets these reactive hypoglycemia spells.
15:17 And she didn't know what to do,
15:19 and they're getting worse, and things are a problem.
15:24 Since she came here and is on the whole plant foods whole,
15:27 she doesn't have those big sugar surges.
15:29 She's only had that reaction once.
15:32 Wonderful. - And so, and...
15:34 And she's thrilled.
15:35 - Praise God. - She's thrilled about that.
15:37 Yeah, that's thrilling!
15:39 I keep telling everybody, "Lose the weight,
15:41 and the diabetes will go away. Lose the weight,
15:43 your reactive hypoglycemia will go away."
15:46 - And so the person says,
15:48 "How do you do that?" you know.
15:49 So--is she losing weight?
15:51 She hasn't lost hardly any.
15:53 Is she getting healthier? You bet she is.
15:56 And so she's excited about that.
15:58 What will happen as she continues on with this program?
16:02 The weight will come off.
16:04 And as it does, this will be a thing of the past.
16:08 Also she's complaining about the knees, the hips,
16:12 and all the weight on the joints,
16:14 the osteoarthritis and those kind of things.
16:17 What is that from?
16:20 - Too much weight.
16:21 It's gotta be weight.
16:23 - Pushing down on those and grinding those joints.
16:25 So there it goes back to that.
16:27 The...
16:28 I don't know how it is, because Africa
16:30 is becoming Westernized now.
16:32 And I'm understanding that people over there now--
16:34 see this is 20 years since I was there.
16:36 I only saw two heart attacks.
16:38 Two heart attacks in 15 years of practice.
16:42 And now they say
16:44 no, they're having heart attacks over there,
16:46 and people are having diabetes over there,
16:50 and some of the countries are eating
16:51 a lot of beef and stuff like that.
16:53 They're going to have real problems.
16:56 They already have-- they're starting to have that.
16:59 With regards to Carol now,
17:01 you say that she needs to continue to lose weight.
17:04 But I also have heard you say that
17:06 she's come down a couple of sizes.
17:09 and not lost a whole lot. - No, I don't know that.
17:11 You know, when they measure her,
17:13 but she's... her clothes are fitting
17:16 a little bit better, yeah.
17:17 Yeah, she even said that to me.
17:19 - Yeah. - Uh, so...
17:21 - And so, they'll...
17:22 You know, it's not unusual for a person to come in,
17:25 and that's that-- We've talked about this before,
17:28 the metabolic thing,
17:29 where you have the big girth and the high blood pressure,
17:32 and then your blood sugars aren't under control,
17:34 your cholesterol's out of control,
17:36 and your triglycerides are too high.
17:38 That's the five different things, you see?
17:40 And her cholesterol when she came in was like
17:43 250 plus.
17:45 And it's down 30, and that's...
17:49 that's pretty good for somebody who's overweight.
17:52 Especially the women. They don't tend to lose
17:55 their cholesterol and their weight as fast
17:58 as the men can.
18:00 So what advice do you have for our viewers
18:02 that they can practice
18:04 in their own homes, on a daily basis?
18:08 Well see, what we've got is we've got people here that...
18:12 If she's got the pain in her joints,
18:14 what is she going to do?
18:15 Is she going to feel like going out there
18:17 and doing all these miles?
18:18 Not exactly. - [chuckle]
18:20 We have some people here that because of
18:23 their back and their neck and so forth,
18:25 they really...they can't--
18:26 They don't even feel that they can do upper arm exercises
18:30 with like a 2-pound weight in each hand.
18:33 And that's some of the things that they can do.
18:35 Some people can get on a stationary bike.
18:38 But as we see people do this,
18:40 as they get into this kind of a dietary,
18:45 it's anti-inflammatory.
18:47 And those pains can go away.
18:49 They can go away... start going away within
18:52 a few days or weeks.
18:54 And we've had people that came in
18:56 with bone on bone,
18:59 and they say, "Well, there's nothing I can do about that."
19:02 Yes, there is.
19:03 The inflammation and the pain goes down
19:06 and then they start putting some fibrous tissue in there,
19:10 and after a while,
19:11 they don't have to have that joint replaced.
19:13 It takes time, it takes patience,
19:15 but as she can exercise...
19:17 But you have to start somewhere.
19:19 I told one of my patients just today,
19:20 "Walk 50 steps,
19:23 turn around, and walk 50 steps back,
19:26 and then sit, relax.
19:29 Get up again in 15 minutes
19:32 and do that over again."
19:33 We have people come in in a wheelchair, on oxygen,
19:37 in pain,
19:38 and away they go at the end of the program.
19:41 They're walking the Half-Mile Loop, some of them.
19:44 Some of them are walking less.
19:45 But they're getting started.
19:48 And we know that as a person does that...
19:50 In three months, they've done things where
19:52 people can get out of assisted living
19:54 for an extra 10 or 12 years.
19:58 I mean, that's unheard of.
19:59 - So you're saying exercise is cumulative.
20:02 You don't have to walk for long periods of time
20:05 necessarily, as long as you get started?
20:07 Is that what you're saying? - Yeah, and...and...
20:08 when you're exercising,
20:10 your metabolic rate is going up, and your muscles
20:16 for the next 24 hours are going to burn more sugar
20:19 than they did if you're sedentary.
20:21 Muscles are really happy to take sugar out of the blood.
20:23 When they need it, they'll get it,
20:26 and they're after it.
20:27 But you know, I thought, well...
20:29 I knew that that the overweight diabetic
20:33 was somebody that their pancreas...
20:34 we've got things that'll
20:36 whip it again, whip it again,
20:38 and make more and more insulin.
20:39 That's not what they need.
20:41 This lady doesn't have diabetes yet.
20:43 But her insulin is surging in there,
20:45 and now her life...
20:47 her life is miserable at times
20:51 because she has these things.
20:52 If you're nauseated, if you're...
20:54 if you're just feeling terrible and anxious
20:58 and your blood sugar is dropping so low
21:00 that you're just shaky and sweaty,
21:02 I mean, what are you gonna do?
21:03 That's all you can think about until that's passed.
21:06 That's like life-threatening. - Yep.
21:08 So any last words of advice?
21:11 Do this if you have reactive hypoglycemia.
21:14 Come and we'll help you out.
21:16 That's wonderful. - It happens. It works.
21:18 It happens all the time. - In a short period of time.
21:21 And I want to thank you for joining us, Doctor Lukens.
21:23 It's always my pleasure.
21:25 - It's always good to see you.
21:26 - Yep, really good.
21:28 And thank you for joining us, folks,
21:29 but don't go away.
21:31 We have an important tip for you right after this.
21:47 Welcome to NEWSTART at Home.
21:49 I'm Dr. David DeRose.
21:50 Today we're speaking about a problem
21:52 that's very common in medical offices.
21:54 It's likely that you or one of your loved ones
21:56 have experienced it.
21:58 The topic is frozen shoulder.
22:00 And with me is Jerry Flores.
22:02 Jerry is a therapist at Weimar Center of Health and Education,
22:06 part of the NEWSTART program.
22:07 Jerry, do you see a lot of problems with frozen shoulder?
22:10 Yes I do. As a matter of fact,
22:12 that's one that comes in frequently.
22:15 And we do treat it.
22:17 The medical term is adhesive capsulitis.
22:20 And the word 'adhesive'
22:22 means that things just are like glue there.
22:25 They tighten up,
22:27 they atrophy,
22:28 and I'm going to give one example.
22:30 For example, let's say you break your arm.
22:32 You get it in a cast. They cast it.
22:35 Two months later, your broken bone is healed,
22:38 but you didn't use your shoulder joint at all,
22:41 or very little.
22:43 And then you get up to this to put on a shirt,
22:45 and all of a sudden, "Ouch!"
22:47 You can't go above there and you've got excruciating pain.
22:49 Okay, so you're not...
22:51 A frozen shoulder doesn't mean necessarily
22:53 that they just can't move their shoulder at all.
22:55 They've just got severely limited range of motion.
22:57 Yes, limited range of motion.
23:00 Usually, they could go up to about 60 to 90 degrees,
23:04 but they can't go up above that,
23:05 the full 180 degrees, all the way up to...
23:08 your...ear. - Okay.
23:11 So Jerry, from our experience
23:13 it's very likely that many of the folks tuning in today
23:16 either have some shoulder limitations
23:18 or they know someone who does.
23:20 What can you do to help them?
23:21 What can they do at home to get some help?
23:24 Right. Well, the first thing that I'd like to do is,
23:26 it's a frozen shoulder, right?
23:28 So I just like to thaw it.
23:30 - Okay, fair enough.
23:32 - Thaw out the frozen shoulder.
23:33 You thaw out the frozen shoulder.
23:34 So you just apply some heat.
23:36 A hot pack.
23:37 You take an epsom salt bath,
23:39 which is very good.
23:41 We know it relaxes muscles.
23:43 And that helps. But then the key...
23:46 The key to...
23:49 helping a frozen shoulder is that
23:51 you gotta use a simple formula,
23:53 for a comfort scale.
23:56 What I do is I teach people how to use colors.
23:59 Red, yellow, and green.
24:03 - Just like a stop light. - Just like a stops light.
24:05 Or...
24:06 green, yellow, and red.
24:08 Green - no discomfort at all.
24:11 Keep going.
24:12 Keep going, yes.
24:13 Yellow - warning!
24:15 But it's still okay to go,
24:17 and in this case it would be 'move'.
24:19 And red, which means stop.
24:22 Too much discomfort,
24:23 therefore you don't continue
24:25 with the stretch or with the pressure.
24:27 So, when you got a frozen shoulder,
24:29 and you go up here and it's okay, it's green.
24:33 But you raised it up, it gets yellow,
24:35 and then just a little bit more and it gets into the red zone.
24:38 That's where people don't know what to do.
24:40 That's when we apply the heat,
24:42 and then just stretch it out a little bit more.
24:44 And if you like,
24:46 we could demonstrate a little bit on you.
24:48 - Oh sure, sure. - Sure? Okay.
24:50 So I'm going to take Doctor DeRose's shoulder,
24:53 and let's say it was frozen.
24:55 And you tell me-- I'm going to raise it up,
24:57 and you tell me as soon as it feels uncomfortable.
25:00 Am I supposed to make believe I've got a bad shoulder?
25:02 - Yes. - AH!!! Ahhh!
25:04 Okay, right there.
25:05 We can't go past that range of motion, right?
25:07 Assuming we already applied the heat, right,
25:10 we got more blood flowing there, more oxygen,
25:12 water, and nutrients.
25:14 So then what I do is I start...
25:16 Of course, you're lying down on a table, right?
25:18 And what I do is I start
25:21 just moving it just a little bit,
25:24 and I don't go past the yellow.
25:26 But then I do something.
25:27 - Okay, what do you do? - I stretch it out.
25:29 And I let the arm relax, and I go.
25:31 And I pull on the shoulder.
25:34 Okay, on the shoulder joint, like this.
25:36 - If I were laying down I wouldn't be moving so much.
25:38 Exactly. Right. - My weight would keep me there.
25:40 So then that's going to loosen up all the
25:41 tendons, ligaments, and muscles,
25:43 And that's going to allow for further range of motion.
25:47 - Ah, ah... - Okay, we're there.
25:49 We got about a degree or two.
25:50 Just a little bit more.
25:52 So then what I do is I like to push
25:54 the joint in, and rotate it.
25:58 And that breaks up a little bit of the scar tissue
26:00 that has built up,
26:01 and it allows it
26:03 to gain a little bit more mobility.
26:05 So once I'm doing that-- I'm done with doing that--
26:08 I'm able to go
26:10 and just stretch a little bit more
26:11 and it stretches a little bit more.
26:13 Until after about an hour, an hour and a half of therapy,
26:17 in most cases,
26:18 I'm able to get about 160, and sometimes even
26:22 180 degrees in just one therapy.
26:25 but usually it takes about 2 or 3 therapies
26:28 to solve this issue.
26:29 And so presumably people could do this at home,
26:32 working on one another. - Yes.
26:34 Listen, I hope you found some very practical information
26:37 on today's edition of NEWSTART at Home.
26:39 If you want more information, simply go to:
26:52 Modern views of evolution stem all the way back
26:55 to theories developed in the mid-1800s.
26:58 Out of the same time period came ideas that shape
27:01 our educational system today.
27:04 The Common School Movement, for example,
27:07 saw schools more like a factory,
27:09 with students blindly memorizing instruction
27:11 rather than thinking for themselves.
27:14 Their curriculum was rigid and theoretical.
27:16 Instead of being flexible and practical,
27:19 it was designed to conform the individual
27:22 into a specific ideological mold
27:25 that fit the needs of an old industrial era
27:27 long since passed.
27:30 Just like our view of creation in six literal days,
27:33 we believe the Bible contains an educational blueprint
27:38 radically different from the one we see now.
27:53 Well, friends, that's it for today.
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28:01 And may the Lord richly bless you this day.


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