Participants: Ron Giannoni (Host), Laura Dorans
Series Code: NSN
Program Code: NSN000062
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00:23 Hi friends, and welcome to another edition of NEWSTART NOW.
00:27 In our studio today we have Laura Dorans from 00:31 Elgin Illinois, just outside of Chicago I understand. 00:35 She came to us grieving somewhat, 00:39 but rather than me tell you about it, 00:41 lets look at a clip when she first arrived. 00:45 This past year has been incredibly stressful, 00:51 my husband had very advanced multiple sclerosis, 00:55 was wheelchair bound, 00:58 we ended up no longer being able to care for him at home, 01:02 and he died about a year ago. 01:05 Then actually several months after that 01:08 I was laid off, 01:11 I also ironically was diagnosed with MS myself. 01:17 He had it when I met him 25 years ago, 01:20 and I was diagnosed in 05. 01:22 The MS has affected me 01:27 people who get MS, have a wide variety of symptoms, 01:30 and for me it's been constant fatigue, 01:35 it has affected my memory 01:37 which used to be incredibly sharp, 01:40 that's a real frustration... 01:44 I have balance problems. 01:47 I want... 01:49 what I'm absolutely certain, God wants for me, 01:53 if I cooperate with him, 01:54 and that is-- good health. 01:59 Welcome back friends, and in our studio-- Laura how are you? 02:01 - I'm good thanks. - Good to see you. 02:03 - You too. 02:05 Ok, first question I got to ask, how's your memory? 02:08 Ah, let me think... 02:10 No! 02:11 You for get? - Right! Right! 02:14 How do you feel? 02:15 I feel good, I do. 02:17 I... 02:18 - Have you experienced some change since you've been here? 02:20 Definitely, I definitely feel 02:24 ah... as if I'm more well. 02:27 You know the whole idea of wellness 02:31 is so important, and 02:33 one of the things that a doctor told me years ago, who knew... 02:38 me and my family real closely. 02:42 He knew our situation with my husband being very ill, 02:45 and that I was taking care of him, and 02:48 the bread winner, and everything, 02:50 and our daughter. 02:51 And I think this would pertain 02:53 probably to quite a few of your viewers, 02:57 he said that he was on a plane and he had a philosophical 03:01 moment about me when they started 03:03 announcing about the oxygen mask, 03:05 that-- you know how they instruct you 03:08 to put the oxygen mask on somebody 03:10 else--not to put it on somebody else first, 03:13 to put it on yourself in case of emergency. 03:16 Because if you're helping someone else 03:18 instead, everyone could perish. 03:21 Take care of yourself first, 03:23 and then you can help those around you much better. 03:28 And I feel that's what... 03:30 I've gained here, during my stay at Weimar. 03:34 So how is this program 03:37 going to help you administer to 03:41 other folks' well being? 03:44 Well the fact that, 03:47 my... well being 03:51 is improving, just increases my capacity 03:56 to help not only myself but to help others as well. 03:59 To help my family, and 04:02 be able to help others outside as well. 04:04 And what have you learned here in the last 17 days-- 04:08 and I know this is an 18 day program-- 04:10 But what have you learned that you can take home, 04:13 take to your community, 04:14 take back to your church, that might 04:17 lift someone up? 04:20 I've come to believe, 04:23 deeply in the validity of this 04:26 the nutritional approach. 04:30 I was a bit skeptical, 04:33 and as my grandmother used to say, 04:35 Laura, you're a poor eater! 04:37 And I have been all my life, 04:41 but after going through the instruction about 04:45 what it is that we've really been consuming, 04:48 the ingredients and what has 04:49 happened to food over the years, and so forth. 04:53 And the value 04:55 of eating food the way God created it, 04:59 and originally intended us to consume it. 05:02 It's reflected in the improvement in 05:06 the readings in my lab work, 05:09 it's improved the way that I feel since I've arrived, 05:14 and it has, 05:16 really opened me up to hear more 05:20 from God what it is that he's saying to me. 05:23 Wonderful. 05:25 So then you realize that your body 05:26 is the temple of the Holy Spirit. 05:28 Absolutely. 05:29 God said not to defile these bodies. 05:32 So we got to take care of these temples. 05:33 Right. Right. 05:35 How's your energy? How--has that changed? 05:38 Ah, to be honest that hasn't changed much 05:41 much yet, ah--that's--but 05:44 I'm confident that over time it will, that was 05:47 quite a high bar to set for an 18 day 05:51 time span. But with the 05:53 improvement that I have seen so far, 05:56 it has made me committed 05:59 to continue with this lifestyle, with that is one 06:02 one of the objectives that my energy will increase. 06:06 Do you feel-- when you arrived here were you aware 06:11 or were you depressed in any way? 06:14 I was... 06:16 I think you'd call it like world weary, 06:19 from having--just having had 06:23 encountered so many... 06:26 major life changes and stresses 06:29 over the past several--actually 06:31 ten years my husband was really sick. 06:34 So... 06:37 Yeah I was not at the top of my game by any stretch. 06:42 And you feel like you got a grip on it? You're ready to... 06:48 Much more so-- much more so than I was. I feel like I 06:53 am connecting better 06:55 with God in order to discern what it is that 06:58 He does have in mind for me, direction-wise. 07:02 When you get home, 07:04 what is it that you'll describe 07:07 as far as Weimar's NEWSTART program, 07:10 what will you say to your family and friends? 07:12 What did you do when you were here? 07:15 Well I would say 07:17 first of all that it's not whacky, 07:20 it's-- that the... 07:23 food is good, 07:25 far better than I had expected. 07:28 That with the instruction that I've 07:32 obtained while I was here 07:34 that I can see that it's 07:35 really something that's very doable, 07:38 when I do return home. 07:40 And most importantly, are 07:43 the very clear benefits 07:45 that the participants achieve 07:49 from having participated in it. 07:52 How about your walking? The exercise part of the program 07:56 Someone-- some people don't like that 08:00 E word, but we'll call it activity. 08:04 Do you plan on sharing that with the folks back home? 08:08 Sure, it used to be that the exercise 08:10 that I got was getting in and out of my car! 08:14 And... 08:15 I've been doing a lot more walking here, there are 08:18 some limitations just because of my MS, but 08:22 it has-- I've... 08:23 there's been a big change 08:25 in terms of my capacity and my enjoyment of it as well. 08:30 You mention food, and I know the viewers, some of which have 08:33 called me in the past and go 08:35 Well I don't know if I can live on salads. 08:38 Did you eat salads? Is that the only thing they served you here? 08:41 It's certainly not the only thing that they served, 08:44 but I did come to thoroughly enjoy salads 08:47 since I've been here, and the variety of salads. 08:52 No it's surprising, the number of dishes that 08:56 they've taught us to create in the time 08:58 that we were here from various ingredients, 09:02 some of them you could even, 09:04 get by-- you know slip 09:06 in on somebody and they wouldn't know what 09:08 the contents were, they might think it was 09:11 you know, 'real food', or... 09:13 you know outside food. 09:16 Any last minute suggestions for our viewers? 09:20 Our time is running out. 09:21 Ok. 09:23 I would just highly encourage anyone, 09:25 I can think even of, you know... 09:28 caregivers of ill people 09:31 have such demands on their own 09:35 health and well being, and they need to be ready to 09:39 take--you know, carry the ball and everything, 09:42 shoulder such responsibility. 09:43 But they need to be fit to do so. 09:45 - Amen. 09:47 So I would encourage anyone to attend. 09:48 I thank you for coming on our show, 09:51 and God bless your work, and your trip home. 09:54 Thank you. 09:56 Well friends, thanks for joining us, 09:58 but don't go away 09:59 because Dr. David DeRose will be with us in just a moment. 10:04 Well, you've done very well. 10:12 Do you have diabetes, 10:13 heart disease, high blood pressure, 10:16 or do you weigh too much? 10:18 Hi, my name is Dr. Ing, and I'd like to tell you 10:21 about our 18-day NEWSTART lifestyle program. 10:24 It includes a comprehensive medical evaluation 10:27 with laboratory studies and an exercise stress test, 10:31 physician consultations, 10:33 culinary school, 10:35 and an opportunity to walk on beautiful trails 10:38 in the foothills of the Sierras. 10:42 Your health is one of the most 10:43 important things that you have. Don't wait. 10:46 Give us a call at: 10:51 Or visit our website: 11:10 Welcome back friends, and in our studio-- Dr. DeRose 11:13 how are you sir? - I'm doing well Ron, 11:15 how are you? 11:17 I'm blessed, it's so good to see you. 11:19 We got to talk about this interview we just had, 11:22 and tell us, 11:24 because I know the people are always interested 11:27 in what the doctor says. 11:29 What's happened here Doctor? 11:31 Well you know I think one of the things Ron, 11:33 that is really exciting about Laura's situation, 11:37 you know sometimes we feature people on this show who 11:41 you know, threw away their canes and wheelchairs, 11:43 were blind and now they can see. 11:45 And of course I'm exaggerating! 11:47 And a lot of people can get the mistaken idea 11:50 that when they make lifestyle changes, 11:53 in two weeks everything is normal! 11:56 Laura was sharing with you her enthusiasm, she's seen enough 11:59 progress that I mean her life is going to be different. 12:03 But at the same time you know, you asked her 12:04 about her energy level, she said, You know that really 12:06 hasn't improved dramatically yet. 12:09 And so I think this is-- it's really 12:11 important to have a credible show like this 12:13 when we highlight lifestyle 12:15 everyone just doesn't fit into some cookbook, 12:19 and just go through some trajectory 12:21 where in two weeks they're, you know, 12:23 a totally a new person, and they 12:25 never have any medical problems again! 12:27 I'm so glad to hear you say this because often times, 12:30 sitting here I'm looking for 12:32 some miraculous things to happen! 12:34 And once in a while, 12:35 there isn't anything so 12:37 miraculous but change is happened. 12:39 And I'm glad you put that out, because people 12:42 are wondering, while she didn't go 12:44 through too many changes-- or he-- 12:46 But go on Doctor. 12:47 Yeah, but so what's miraculous really 12:49 is that even-- you know when you 12:51 stand and you look back and you say well, 12:53 you know, 12:55 the Lord didn't give us some amazing testimony about how 12:59 you know, the MS is totally behind her, 13:01 you know, she has no concerns about it. 13:04 But here's the point... 13:05 The key to MS success-- I mean 13:07 one of the great researchers in this 13:09 area-- fairly controversial guy, 13:11 but by the name of Dr. Swank in Oregon, 13:14 did a lot of work with MS over the years. 13:17 And really for many physicians, 13:20 nail down a connection between lifestyle, 13:23 and long term improvement, long term success 13:25 with MS. 13:27 But it's not something that necessarily happens over night. 13:30 But it's helping a person see 13:33 that small changes, 13:35 can make enough return on their investment, 13:37 as far as the lifestyle change investment 13:40 that it's worth sticking with. 13:42 And so Laura made that change, and you saw it, you know 13:45 the diet was good, it was healthy, 13:47 she felt good about it, 13:49 and she sees that it's helping her, 13:50 she sees progress 13:52 and she's going to make changes that are 13:53 going to be with her for the rest of her life. 13:56 She seemed to be very level 13:57 headed about that, and I've got-- 13:59 I got that communication loud and clear that 14:02 it's significant enough, 14:04 that she's on board with it. 14:06 And I-- you know, I had this discussion with Laura, 14:09 I've had it with many patients, 14:11 who is the person that benefits the most 14:13 from an intensive lifestyle change program? 14:15 Is it the person who has the most miraculous, 14:18 the most dramatic changes? 14:19 Or is it a person who makes 14:21 slower changes? 14:23 And I think you can put an argument either way, 14:25 and let me tell you how it works Ron. 14:27 The person sometimes that comes here for two weeks 14:31 and their triglycerides go 14:33 from some sky high figure to normal 14:35 their diabetes is gone, 14:37 they're off all their medications. 14:39 The danger that that person faces 14:41 is that they're going to say, you know what? 14:43 that was no big deal! 14:45 If I get off this program hey I can 14:47 always come back to Weimar and in two weeks 14:49 I can turn back the clock. 14:51 You know I never thought of that, 14:53 but it's so true. 14:54 It rings true to my head anyway, 14:56 that, that could be the case. 14:58 And I'm glad you brought this up, 15:00 it's never been discussed. 15:01 Can you elaborate a little further? 15:03 Well I'll give you a practical example. 15:04 I've worked in a number of lifestyle 15:06 centers over the years and one of them 15:08 one of the most disappointed patients I ever saw, 15:11 was someone who came to lower his triglycerides. 15:14 He actually came through a two week 15:16 program very much like we run here at Weimar, 15:18 and at the end of the week his triglycerides were worse! 15:21 I mean he was livid. - Wow! 15:23 He actually wasn't my patient, he was one of my colleague's, 15:26 but it would have happened to me if I were his doctor too! 15:28 - Well I don't think so! 15:29 No it's the way your body responded Ron! 15:31 - I know! But here's the amazing thing-- 15:33 what happened was 15:35 his doctor encouraged him that he 15:38 all the more needed to stick with it, 15:40 because he was not one of these people that responded so quickly 15:44 and he did it! 15:46 And this guy came back, 15:47 I think it was six months or a year later 15:48 his triglycerides were great. 15:50 He had stuck with the lifestyle because he 15:52 realized that this was going to be a long term commitment 15:55 it wasn't just something that went away overnight for him. 15:58 You know that's so inspiring because I 16:00 know people call me from time to time, 16:02 they say, Are you telling me if I come to your NEWSTART program, 16:06 I'm going to lose 70 pounds, lose this, this, this, this? 16:10 I go wait a minute! Time out! No not really. 16:13 So--but I like what you're saying because 16:16 when I came to the program in 05 16:19 it wasn't... 16:20 something I was going to try, 16:22 it wasn't something I was going to, 16:24 Well let's test the waters 16:26 I was committed, and I knew 16:28 I knew that if I stuck to it 16:30 I would go through these changes. 16:32 And that's what you're describing, 16:34 and it's so comforting to hear you say this. 16:38 Well you know, the other thing about the program here, 16:40 and we talk about this a lot, 16:42 is that it's a spiritual program. 16:44 The Lord is at the center of this program, 16:47 people are praying 16:48 around the clock if you will, 16:50 for these guests that come through our program. 16:52 And I think the Lord in His wisdom 16:54 often knows what a person needs to see. 16:57 If there's a person 16:58 who--they really need to see some dramatic change. 17:01 I think of a fellow once 17:02 who came with a different attitude than you, 17:04 he said I'm just going to try it out. 17:07 And at the end of two weeks, 17:09 he said, You know if two weeks 17:11 made this big a difference for me, 17:13 I'd be a fool not to keep living 17:15 this way for the rest of my life. 17:18 So the Lord knew he needed that kind of experience. 17:21 You know, and I don't know that when I got here I 17:23 really had that kind of an attitude, in retrospect. 17:26 I'm not even sure, but 17:28 I know I stuck to it, 17:29 it's been almost 5 years this August. 17:32 - Wow, tremendous. 17:33 So I'd just-- I'd like to 17:34 encourage people who are watching us now 17:36 to know that there's hope, 17:39 that's what I want to instill on people here 17:42 on our program Doctor, that there is hope. 17:45 I mean it's a powerful message, regardless of 17:47 what you're dealing with, there is hope, and 17:50 it doesn't always happen in your time frame. 17:53 The Lord's timing is perfect, when you come here at 17:55 Weimar and give us the privilege of working with you, 17:57 or whether you make changes on your own at home, 18:00 lifestyle change is powerful, 18:02 especially Ron, when God adds his blessing to it. 18:06 Oh, Amen. 18:08 I notice you on... you were at Sacramento Central doing some 18:15 tell us about that just briefly? 18:17 Sure, sure, one of the exciting things about Weimar, 18:19 is this connection we have with Amazing Facts 18:22 and Doug Bachelor's church Sacramento 18:24 Central Seventh Day Adventist Church. 18:26 And there's just a powerful synergy with the 18:29 Amazing Facts Center of Evangelism, 18:31 we're working together, 18:32 We're out there doing health presentations, I'm 18:36 working with Doug occasionally doing some co-presenting, 18:39 and it's just exciting when 18:41 you bring the power of the gospel 18:43 and the power of God's healing message, 18:46 it's really a Biblical message, and just to 18:48 see how people's lives are changing. Some people 18:51 they change based on a health lecture or presentation, 18:54 other people need that hands on 18:55 approach like we offer here at Weimar. 18:57 Doctor, do you often go to churches 19:01 around the country to give 19:03 a lecture on health and nutrition and such? 19:06 Well I can speak for us collectively 19:08 here at Weimar, there are many of us 19:09 that travel to churches and do programs. 19:12 Unfortunately, even thought we have a fairly broad staff 19:15 we have more requests than we can fill. 19:18 But we're always happy to pray about 19:19 particular needs that a church or a 19:21 community group may have. 19:23 And if the Lord wants that to happen, 19:25 He brings it together in his time. 19:27 I'm not sure you're aware, but Dr. Chen 19:31 Pastor Brackett, myself 19:33 went to Enterprise Oregon 19:37 this past weekend, and did a reversing diabetes 19:40 program there. 19:43 Also obesity, etc. 19:46 But the Lord blessed. 19:48 We had a wonderful time, a good turnout. 19:51 And you know we just want to extend that offer to 19:55 church families around the country, 19:56 and it doesn't matter what church. 19:58 We had a gentleman on the 20:00 program before you 20:02 that is going-- who is a Baptist 20:05 and is going to go back to his southern California churches, 20:08 and perhaps we can bring 20:10 a crew down there and help them out too. 20:12 Tremendous. 20:13 So Doctor, what is the prognosis for Laura? 20:18 Well Laura's prognosis is extremely bright 20:21 because she's putting her hands in the Lord 20:24 and really her life is in the Lord's hands. 20:26 Her hands in the Lords hands, she's in His'. 20:29 And really that's where we want to be. 20:31 We know that the Lord's plan is 20:33 ultimately total healing for everyone of us, 20:35 whether it happens in this life, 20:37 or... 20:39 when we're with Him for eternity, 20:40 is the question. 20:42 But when we're trusting him, 20:43 He often gives us dramatic results 20:45 in the here and now, as well as in the future. 20:48 I'm so glad to hear you say that. 20:50 Any last comments to our viewers? 20:53 We have a few seconds left. 20:54 You know, one thing I'd just like to encourage you, 20:56 if the Lord is speaking to your heart about making changes, 20:59 about pressing closer to Him, 21:01 and following the principles of health in the Bible 21:03 go forward, you're never going to regret it, 21:05 and the Lord will definitely work with you. 21:08 Dr. DeRose, thank you for joining us. 21:10 We've run out of time, 21:12 Don't go away, we've got an 21:13 important message for you right after this. 21:29 Welcome to NEWSTART AT HOME. 21:31 I'm Dr. David DeRose, your host, 21:34 and with me today, Jerry Florres 21:36 therapist with the NEWSTART Medical Clinic 21:39 here at Weimar Center of Health and Education. 21:42 Jerry, it's great to have you with us again today. 21:44 It's great to be here. 21:45 Jerry you are just doing exciting 21:47 things I know in the NEWSTART program 21:48 because I've got patients and they're telling me 21:51 the tremendous things that are happening to them 21:53 through you, God's blessing working through 21:55 you and the other members of the team there. 21:58 Ah, low back pain 22:00 is something that a lot of my patients have 22:02 and you guys there are doing something that's helping it. 22:05 Can you bring us up to speed? Give us some take home pointers? 22:08 Yes, I can. What I'm going to demonstrate right now 22:12 is what I do here at NEWSTART with our guests, 22:15 and it's very simple. Most people 22:17 have bad postural habits, 22:19 they don't exercise enough, 22:21 and even people that walk a lot, they don't stretch. 22:25 So therefore what happens to our body is it tightens up. 22:29 And what happens when you get low back pain, 22:31 one of the things I notice most is 22:34 the psoas muscle, which is what 22:35 I'm going to demonstrate right now. 22:38 It is a muscle that is connected, 22:41 in case you didn't know, your legs 22:42 start right below your twelfth rib, 22:44 right around here. 22:46 And it comes and it hooks onto 22:49 joint of your leg, and it helps 22:50 your leg with moving it like this. 22:53 But when you sit down, they shorten 22:56 and tighten. 22:57 Then they take your pelvis 22:59 out of balance as they shorten, 23:01 and it takes the pelvis out of balance. 23:03 And what happens then 23:05 is ischemic tissue starts to develop, 23:08 and you all of a sudden get this pain that you can't bear. 23:12 You go to the doctor, and most 23:13 people don't know what to do with it. 23:16 So it's the process of the muscles tightening, 23:18 not being flexible enough that 23:20 often sets the stage for low back pain? 23:22 Yes, and what we do-- the key 23:25 to unlock these muscle spasms that 23:27 are happening in the lower back, is to 23:31 add heat, usually we do it through an epsom salt bath. 23:35 Ok. How do you make an epsom salt bath? 23:38 You take two cups of epsom salt, 23:40 which is available at most grocery stores or pharmacies, 23:43 and you take two cups into water that's about 100 to 104 degrees. 23:48 And you pour it in there and you just lie there and relax 23:52 for about 12-- up to 30 minutes. 23:56 Then what we do here 23:58 is we include the massage, 24:00 which gets all the 24:02 muscles nice and lengthened. 24:04 We get the 24:06 the circulation optimally going, flowing to the muscle, 24:10 and once that happens 24:11 you got this nice lengthened muscle, 24:14 all the range of motion, in most cases. 24:16 In some, it takes several therapies 24:19 And then the lower back pain dissipates once the pelvis 24:23 and all the rest of the muscles are nice and balanced. 24:26 So is it true Jerry 24:28 that a lot of the problems people have with their low 24:30 backs is because of 24:32 incorrect postures and movements? 24:34 As a matter of fact yes. As a matter of fact 24:36 most people go multiple times to the doctor, 24:39 and up to 95 percent of the time, even in MRIs 24:43 and in other studies, like CAT Scans, 24:45 they can't find anything. 24:48 Therefore we find out that it's 24:50 muscles in spasm that is causing that 24:53 terrible low back pain. 24:54 Ok, so try to keep more flexible, 24:56 drink more water, that's going to make a difference too? 24:59 Water again is the key. 25:01 You got to stay hydrated 25:03 because if the muscles don't have enough water, 25:06 that means that they don't have enough oxygen, that means that 25:10 it sends a signal to your brain to tighten up. 25:13 Ok, so you provide them with that. 25:16 And not to mention that 25:17 sitting a lot in the position we are in 25:20 shortens those muscles 25:22 therefore again taking the pelvis out of balance 25:27 therefore creating that tissue 25:29 that doesn't have that 25:31 optimum blood flow, therefore pain. 25:34 Is there a real quick stretch you could demonstrate for us? 25:37 We're almost out of time, but is there 25:39 some pointer that is often missed in low back problems? 25:42 I show people, I do this while they are lying down 25:46 and then I also teach them how to do it and it's very simple. 25:50 Most people use this stretch to stretch out their quadriceps 25:54 but what I do is I take it here 25:56 and I add a movement. 25:57 Remember I showed you that muscle that goes from 25:59 the bottom of your rib, 26:01 attached to your spine, your T 12, 26:03 and you bring it down and you just go like this. 26:07 And you repeat this about... 26:10 30 seconds, and you do about 3-4 sets, 26:13 and you do both sides of the body. 26:15 therefore your muscles relax, 26:18 pain is dissipated. 26:20 A lot of simple things you can do at home 26:22 to prevent or treat low back problems. 26:25 If you've got questions get a doctor's evaluation first. 26:28 If you want more information, simply go to: 26:40 Modern views of evolution stem all the way back 26:42 to theories developed in the mid-1800s. 26:45 Out of the same time period came ideas that shape 26:49 our educational system today. 26:52 The Common School Movement, for example, 26:54 saw schools more like a factory, 26:56 with students blindly memorizing instruction 26:59 rather than thinking for themselves. 27:01 Their curriculum was rigid and theoretical. 27:04 Instead of being flexible and practical, 27:07 it was designed to conform the individual 27:09 into a specific ideological mold 27:12 that fit the needs of an old industrial era 27:15 long since passed. 27:17 Just like our view of creation in six literal days, 27:21 we believe the Bible contains an educational blueprint 27:25 radically different from the one we see now. 27:41 Well friends that's it for today. 27:43 We all know someone who could use our NEWSTART program, 27:47 maybe you have a family member or a church member or a friend, 27:51 that needs to lose some weight, 27:52 or maybe they're dealing with diabetes. 27:55 Pick up that phone and give us a call, 27:57 at: |
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