Participants: Ron Giannoni (Host), Lindsay Jacob
Series Code: NSN
Program Code: NSN000061
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00:23 Hi friends, and welcome to another edition of NEWSTART Now.
00:27 And before we get to this interview, 00:30 I just want to thank you for your support, 00:32 your prayers, and your phone calls. 00:34 Right now I'd like you to take a look at Lindsay 00:37 when she first arrived here at our NEWSTART program. 00:42 I have bacteria infection, 00:45 and we were taking antibiotics, 00:48 and I keep taking more and more 00:51 but nothing happens. 00:53 So we needed to do something. 00:57 We looked at all the centers, 00:59 and we found out this was the best for me. 01:01 So we went here. 01:05 I want to have no bacteria infection or eczema. 01:10 Welcome back, friends, and in our studio, Lindsay. 01:13 How are you, young lady? - I'm great. 01:16 You know that you are our youngest guest so far? 01:23 - I didn't know that. 01:24 - Well, see, now you know that, and I'm so pleased you're here. 01:28 I'm so pleased that you've chosen our NEWSTART program. 01:32 And tell us about, how are they treating you here? 01:35 I love the treatment they do here, 01:39 and everybody's so nice here. 01:42 Who's your favorite? I mean, aside from me, 01:45 who is your favorite here? 01:47 Um...I don't know. 01:50 - You don't know? Okay, that's okay. 01:53 What did you like about the program? 01:55 Tell us about how they've been treating you. 01:58 They've been treating me very nice, 02:00 and what I like about this program is 02:04 there's lots of stuff you can do here, 02:09 and there's lots of activities. 02:12 And like, what kind of activities have you been doing? 02:15 There's puzzles here. - Puzzles, okay. 02:19 And...I was really busy, and I do the computer sometimes 02:25 - if I'm bored. Okay. 02:27 What about the treatment for your condition? 02:31 How has that changed, if at all? 02:36 It has changed my inside and my outside. 02:41 Your inside? How has it changed your inside? 02:44 Well, I think it's cleaning the toxic. 02:49 Okay, so the toxins are being eliminated, 02:52 and why do you suppose that's happening? 02:54 Because I've been eating very good. 03:01 Okay, you've changed your diet, I understand. 03:03 You're eating a whole plant-based food diet, 03:07 with a lot of vegetables and grains and so on and so forth, 03:11 is that correct? - Yes. 03:13 - And how do you like the food? Pretty good. 03:15 - Pretty good. Alright. 03:18 And have you been up to the water tower? 03:21 Yeah. - You have? 03:23 Yes. - What did you think 03:24 of that little walk up there? 03:26 It's kind of cool. - Cool. 03:28 I like the water tower. - Yeah. 03:31 The weather's been on the cool side since you've been here, 03:33 but starting today it's going to start warming up. 03:38 So, your doctor is Doctor who? 03:43 Lukens, Doctor Lukens. - Doctor Lukens. 03:45 And we're going to be interviewing him 03:47 in just a little bit, and we're going to be talking about you. 03:50 You don't mind, do you? 03:52 I don't mind. - Okay, good. 03:55 So how does Doctor Lukens say you're faring? 03:58 How is your skin condition 04:01 responding to this new lifestyle? 04:05 I think it needs more time, but I think it's getting better. 04:09 Wonderful. 04:11 Now the audience, the viewers, probably don't know, 04:15 who is with you as you're going through this program? 04:18 Because at 9 years old, of course you need a companion. 04:22 Who's with you? - My dad. 04:24 - Your dad's with you? Mhmm. 04:26 - Oh good! He's been with you all this time? 04:28 Well, the first couple days my mom was here, 04:33 so I went the rest with my dad. 04:37 And do you find that you're able to get the treatment you want, 04:41 even though your parents are here? 04:42 Are you able to do all the things you want to do? 04:45 Yeah. - Okay. 04:48 Now, you did attend the cooking schools, did you not? 04:52 I do, and I love them. 04:54 You do, and have you learned something new? 04:56 Yep. - Did you learn 04:58 how to make ice cream? 04:59 Yeah, but I'm allergic to every nut. 05:02 You're allergic to all the nuts? 05:05 Oh, goodness. 05:06 Well that was one of my favorite. 05:08 My favorite was the fruit smoothie. 05:11 The fruit smoothie. [laughter] 05:13 That's always a big... 05:15 Everyone likes that fruit smoothie. 05:17 So you had the cooking classes. Did you do hydro and massage? 05:22 Yeah, I love it. 05:23 Did you see the... Were you in the car wash? 05:26 I don't know what that is. 05:28 You know, where they get all the sprays all over you. 05:29 - Oh, yeah. 05:31 Our guests have nicknamed that "the car wash," 05:34 because it's like driving through a car wash 05:36 with all these sprays and everything. 05:38 There's about 12 or 14 heads in there, 05:41 and they're all spraying on you at the same time. 05:44 I like it. - Good. 05:46 Did you like the hot and cold 05:48 contrasting showers that you received? 05:50 I didn't really receive them. 05:51 I've been doing charcoal packs. 05:53 Oh, you've been doing the charcoal. Oh, okay. 05:56 And that's helping your skin. 05:58 - Yes. Alright. 06:00 Tell us what other treatments you received here. 06:03 You know, there's a young lady watching you right now 06:07 amongst our viewers out in the audience, 06:10 and they're probably wondering 06:11 whether this program would help them. 06:14 So tell these young people out there 06:16 these 8,10, and 12-year-old people, 06:20 how you're treated and what you're doing here. 06:22 Well, we're doing lots of things. 06:27 We're doing lots of activities, 06:31 cooking school and eating a vegan diet. 06:37 - What's a vegan diet? 06:39 It's where you eat no food with the animal's product. 06:46 No animal product. 06:48 So you totally eliminate 06:49 anything that's come from an animal. 06:51 Mhmm. - Okay. That's a vegan diet. 06:54 Yes. - Alright. 06:56 What else are you doing? 06:57 Inspire these people to want to come here now. 06:59 Tell them how much fun you're having. 07:02 Well, here we have lots of fun, 07:05 and we walk a lot here, just to exercise, 07:09 which is good for you, and... 07:14 I don't know. - That's okay. 07:17 You walk a lot, which is good for you. 07:19 People need to know that. 07:20 But you're young and you've got a lot of energy, 07:22 and walking is not a big deal. - No. 07:25 How about your dad? Has he been able to keep up with you? 07:28 Yeah. - He's here with us now, huh? 07:31 Yep. [laughter] 07:33 So, what are you going to do when you get home? 07:36 Tell us about that, Lindsay. 07:38 I'm going to keep doing the vegan diet. 07:40 And what else are you going to do? 07:42 Well, when I was here they were doing the charcoal wraps, 07:45 and I'm going to do that at home, too. 07:48 Good. Now, have you learned 07:51 what the acronym is for NEWSTART? 07:56 N, nutrition, E, exercise, 08:00 W, walking, - Water. 08:03 Oh, water. - Walking's good, too. 08:06 Because you already covered that in exercise, 08:09 so the W would be for water. 08:11 - And the S? 08:16 I forgot. - Sunshine. 08:18 The T is temperance. 08:21 - A? 08:23 A, I forgot. - Air. 08:26 - And R? 08:29 - Rest. Rest, and T... 08:32 - Trust in the Divine Power. Oh. 08:36 Now if you remember those, 08:37 you remember how the lifestyle is that you've chosen, 08:40 and you can easily follow that lifestyle 08:43 by remembering that acronym, okay? 08:45 Okay. - Okay, so Lindsay, 08:49 it's been a real joy having you here, 08:52 and I just thank God that I got the opportunity 08:56 to interview with you and chat with you on our set. 09:00 But I'd like you to tell me, when you go home, 09:05 what is your mom and dad going to eat 09:07 when you're doing all these vegan diets? 09:10 They're going to eat vegan, too. 09:13 Are they vegan? Mhmm. My mom is, and my dad is. 09:17 Were they vegan before they got here? 09:20 My mom was and I was, but my dad wasn't. 09:23 Oh, but now he's vegan. - Yes. 09:25 - So he's committed to you, is that right? 09:27 Mhmm. - Okay. 09:29 And who's going to do the cooking? 09:31 My mom. - Are you going to help her? 09:33 Yes. 09:35 And are you going to make smoothies? 09:37 Yeah. [laughter] 09:39 You gotta have smoothies! - Yeah. I love 'em. 09:43 Are you going to put any vegetables in the smoothies? 09:46 Hmm, I don't know. - You can if you like. 09:50 I like to use vegetables and fruit and mix them all together, 09:53 and it makes it real tasty. 09:54 Gives you a lot of energy when you're finished drinking it. 09:58 Yep. Just like an energy drink, except better. 10:01 - Except better, right! 10:03 Well Lindsay, thank you so much again for joining us. 10:06 I really appreciate you coming on set. 10:09 And I pray that all your wishes be granted. 10:13 [giggles] Okay. 10:16 And friends, thank you for joining us, 10:17 but don't go away, 10:19 because Doctor Lukens is going to be right with us. 10:23 Well, you've done very well. 10:31 Do you have diabetes, 10:32 heart disease, high blood pressure, 10:35 or do you weigh too much? 10:37 Hi, my name is Dr. Ing, and I'd like to tell you 10:39 about our 18-day NEWSTART lifestyle program. 10:43 It includes a comprehensive medical evaluation 10:46 with laboratory studies and an exercise stress test, 10:50 physician consultations, 10:52 culinary school, 10:54 and an opportunity to walk on beautiful trails 10:57 in the foothills of the Sierras. 11:01 Your health is one of the most 11:02 important things that you have. Don't wait. 11:05 Give us a call at: 11:10 Or visit our website: 11:29 Hi friends, and welcome back, 11:30 and as I promised, Doctor Lukens. 11:32 Very good to see you again. 11:34 It's always so good to see you. - Yep, very very good. 11:36 And we have a special young lady to talk about today. 11:41 This is our youngest guest, by the way, 11:43 for the NEWSTART program. - Oh yes, yes. 11:46 And as I recall, it's probably our 11:48 youngest guest here through the NEWSTART, period. 11:52 I think years ago we've had younger ones, yeah. 11:55 I meant in our NEWSTART Now program. 11:57 Oh yeah, yeah, that's for sure, yeah. 11:59 And she's such a delightful young lady. 12:01 She's very...she's right on it. 12:04 She knows what she's talking about, 12:05 and she says she's doing better. 12:07 But tell us from your point of view, how is she? 12:11 Well you know, her mother and father 12:15 are really pleased that she's such a happy little girl 12:22 for all the things that she's been through, 12:25 and she...you can tell that she's a smart little kid. 12:29 And you know, a lot of kids would 12:34 be cowed in the corner or something like that 12:36 if they have health problems. 12:38 But she's not, and so that's a tribute to her parents 12:42 and of course to our loving heavenly Father. 12:46 The thing is with these kind of allergies that she has, 12:49 it's in the...it's the skin, as you can see. 12:53 Some of the ones that she has what we'd call eczema, 12:57 a skin allergy. 13:01 And some of them are real deep 13:03 and they'll stay in the same spots. 13:05 But hers is kind of a general, overall body reaction. 13:08 And her father has the same thing. 13:11 I guess she got it from his side of the family. 13:14 I didn't know that. He hadn't said anything to me. 13:16 Yes, and they will know, because 13:20 anytime you have this as your problem, 13:25 your health problem, 13:26 it's very obvious, because it's just right on your face. 13:30 - Yeah, you're looking at it every day. 13:32 And I talked to him this morning and he said, you know, 13:35 when he gets up in the morning 13:36 he can look at his face in the mirror 13:38 and he already knows what kind of a day it's going to be. 13:41 And right now the pollens are out. 13:44 This is a... We have that, and so 13:46 I asked him, because I saw his face too, 13:49 and he has the redness and the itching, 13:52 and that's some of the problems with that. 13:54 Is there a way to diagnose through blood draws, etc, 14:00 anything that has to do with this condition? 14:04 Well you know, I've heard this in the past, 14:06 and I see that it's true. 14:07 In medicine, whenever we have anything where there's 14:11 a lot of different ways to do it, 14:13 it's one of two things. 14:16 And it's either that all of them are pretty good, 14:19 or that none of them are very helpful. 14:21 [laughter] 14:23 And unfortunately, that's the problem with allergies. 14:26 They do the skin scratch test 14:30 and she's had some where she said 14:31 it just left a fiery mark on her. 14:35 And they have the blood test. 14:38 The trouble is, is the body's always changing, 14:41 and frequently the foods that you like to eat, 14:44 if you eat them over and over and over again, 14:47 your body tends to 14:51 start to react to those that you keep eating so much of. 14:55 And sometimes those are the foods that you like, 14:57 so that's why you go back to them. 14:59 Bless her heart, the little girl, 15:01 she would raise her hand when I was giving a lecture 15:04 and I would see her over there, 15:05 and I'd watch, and pretty soon I'd say, "Yes, Lindsay? 15:08 What would you like to ask?" and she says, 15:12 "Is it alright if I eat chocolate?" 15:15 [laughter] 15:18 Well, of course it's alright if you eat chocolate! 15:20 Yeah, that's a plant food, of course, you know. 15:22 What could be wrong with that? 15:23 We grow cocoa, right? 15:25 How do you handle that? 15:28 Well, no, see, the thing is is that 15:31 the whole plant foods, and chocolate has 15:33 some things in it that's like... 15:35 Coffee has caffeine, and chocolate, 15:39 and tea, and all these things, they have substances that 15:42 kind of excite the body, 15:43 and we're trying to keep things calm. 15:46 One of the things that's been helpful for her 15:48 is some of the baths and the oils and so forth. 15:52 They've tried various things, 15:54 The body, as we know, is made up of the foods that we eat, 15:58 and really, the foods that we've eaten, 16:01 some of them will stay in our body for years. 16:04 And so the longer she does this, 16:06 the better she'll be. 16:08 Now she said, as you could see in our clip, 16:12 that she's noticed a change. 16:15 She's noticed it internally, and she's feeling different. 16:18 But you're saying that, 16:21 that being the case, it may take 16:23 months, perhaps years, before she's totally 16:27 being able to eat almost anything. 16:29 Yeah, and it's tough, you know, because... 16:31 I could see her light up the other day. 16:33 Her mom was able to bring 16:36 a couple of the animals and some of her friends. 16:40 And she was just out running around in the sunshine and just, 16:43 she just lit up, you know. 16:45 Well, you could expect that to happen. 16:47 But anyway, the thing is is that 16:49 I keep talking about the prostaglandins 16:52 and these things, and it's so important because 16:55 they do a couple of things. One of them 16:58 is that they dilate your tiny little blood vessels. 17:01 Of course that would make your face redder 17:03 or something like that. 17:04 But the part that I want us to think about 17:07 is that they also decrease inflammation. 17:10 - So that's really the point you want to reach. 17:13 - That's the point that we want to... 17:15 And those prostaglandins, as you told us over and over, 17:18 And I'm still getting it. I'm still...I hear that 17:21 in my head, you saying and talking about those. 17:24 And they're made up of the type of foods that we eat. 17:26 - Yes. And so, 17:28 what she noticed is that even though the redness is there, 17:32 is that the itching isn't as much. 17:34 Really? - Yeah. 17:36 And whenever you scratch, of course, 17:38 you've known that as well-- 17:40 And this is a really bad pollen time. 17:42 The other day when we were out on the walk, 17:46 my left eye was just a little bit irritated. 17:50 But I knew that if I started scratching it 17:53 that it would probably get all red 17:54 and I'd want to scratch it some more. 17:56 So that's been a real problem. 17:58 So the fact that with the different prostaglandins 18:01 that she's getting, and there's less itching... 18:04 What's really pleasing to her folks 18:08 is that she would just go like this, 18:11 and then the scratches, 18:15 they would get infected, 18:17 and then she'd have to go on antibiotics. 18:19 And what I was noticing is where, you know, 18:23 her clothes rub, and when she's walking-- 18:25 there, and around the belt and stuff like that. 18:28 That's an irritant, and that tends... 18:31 So the itching is a good thing, that that's decreased. 18:36 And they can see that a lot of these really bad sores 18:40 and stuff are starting to heal up. 18:42 And she already does have some scars, 18:44 but at her age, you know, those will fade as time goes by. 18:51 And the thing that will be a real challenge and will be tough 18:55 is for her to do this 18:57 when she's, you know, with her friends, 19:00 with the kids that are around. You know, they'll say, 19:02 "Oh come on, you can do this." 19:04 - "You can have this and have that," right. 19:06 But she is very conscientious, and so 19:08 with the itching down, without all the scratching, 19:12 and then as she continues to eat just the plant foods-- 19:16 and her folks are going to do this with her. 19:18 Her dad needs to. 19:20 We've seen that people through the 19:22 weeks and the months and the years 19:24 as they go by, that they can get better and better on this. 19:28 That's so wonderful to hear you say that, 19:31 and what a wonderful child. 19:33 I'm so inspired with her attitude. 19:36 She seems so much more mature, 19:39 and she really does, at nine years old, 19:42 she really understands what's going on here. 19:44 - Yes, she does, yeah. 19:45 And I think we have someone who's 19:47 going to stick to the program, don't you? 19:49 Yeah, it'll be tough. It'll be tough. 19:51 But she has a lot of support, and it's good. 19:55 And you know, coming back to this other again, 19:59 what we eat is so important, 20:01 because everything in our body changes. 20:03 From the cell membrane, 20:05 where the cells are elastic and pliable, 20:10 they're resistant to allergens, 20:12 and what goes inside the cells, the way they work. 20:16 And bless her heart, you know, 20:18 she's determined to do more and more exercise. 20:21 Yesterday she got up to where she was walking six miles. 20:26 And her father said... 20:27 - Six miles! Yeah, six miles. 20:29 I told her she only really needs to do 3 to 5. 20:32 But her father said, you know, 20:35 she's healthier, she's in better shape. 20:38 So he's happy about it, too. 20:40 And he's getting healthier as well. 20:42 So this program is helping him, as well, 20:45 even though he's here to assist her. 20:48 Yeah, and we need to pray for these people, 20:49 because you can imagine just constantly being itching, 20:52 and I've seem them just slapping, slapping their face 20:55 to try to get rid of it, and they can't, you know. 20:58 But the good news is that we've seen people 21:01 do better and better the longer they're on it. 21:04 That is great news, and Doctor, 21:06 you know, it's great having you here, 21:08 and I really appreciate you taking your time. 21:12 I know you doctors are busy from morning till beyond sunset, 21:16 and I want to thank you for taking your time. 21:19 Well, we need to encourage everybody that we can. 21:21 - Yes we do, and thank you. That's so good, yeah. 21:24 And folks, that's it for this segment, 21:26 but don't go away! We have an important message for you 21:28 right after this. 21:44 Welcome to NEWSTART at Home. 21:45 I'm your host, Dr. David DeRose. 21:48 With me today, Hildelisa Flickenger, 21:51 registered dietician and 21:52 masters-trained nutrition specialist. 21:55 Hildelisa, it's always great to have you on the program. 21:57 Thank you for having me. 21:59 We've been talking in previous episodes about weight-- 22:02 the huge problems that Americans are facing in this area. 22:05 And I know a lot of times some people say we're just 22:08 hyping this up as health professionals. 22:10 Is this everything that it's blown up to be? 22:13 Well, I think so. 22:14 You know, 67 percent of Americans, or of adults, 22:18 are either overweight or obese. 22:21 And this of course poses a great risk for chronic disease 22:24 such as diabetes and hypertension and heart disease. 22:28 And how much does obesity have to do with these diseases? 22:33 Just for example, just a couple of examples, 22:36 according to the CDC, 22:37 80 percent of obesity, or excuse me, of diabetes, 22:42 is related to obesity. 22:44 - So this is not a radical group. 22:46 Centers for Disease Control is 22:47 a well-recognized government agency. 22:49 And they're saying that 80 percent of diabetes in America 22:52 is due to obesity, at least in part? 22:54 Right, and 70 percent of heart disease, 22:58 cardiovascular disease, is due to obesity, too. 23:02 So we've got to get some more practical hints today 23:05 how people can help trim those waistlines, 23:08 and as a registered dietician, 23:10 you've got great expertise in this area. 23:12 What kind of things do you find connect with people? 23:15 What kind of practical things help them to lose a few pounds? 23:18 Well, there are three basic strategies 23:20 to help with weight loss. 23:21 Number one, that would be to eat more foods 23:24 that are low in energy density. 23:27 Number two, to be physically active, 23:29 and number three, to reduce portion sizes. 23:32 Now portions, of course, this is the main contributor 23:35 to obesity in our country, because 23:37 Americans eat too much. 23:39 We have oversized our plates and ourselves. 23:43 But I mean, it's not really our fault, is it? 23:44 Because you go into a restaurant or a fast food place 23:47 and they want to give you some kind of supersize serving. 23:49 Isn't that the way it works? You get more for your money? 23:52 That's right, and you know, 23:53 when we're talking about portions you hear those words 23:56 'serving' and 'portions' used interchangeably. 23:59 But they refer to different things. 24:02 Okay, wait a minute. So if someone says, 24:03 "One serving of broccoli," 24:06 that's different than a portion of broccoli? 24:08 Yes. - Make this clear for us. 24:10 - How does that work? 24:12 Well, a serving is not what you happen to put on your plate. 24:15 A serving is actually a specific amount of food 24:19 defined in common measurement 24:21 such as cups and tablespoons. 24:24 Basically to make recommendations 24:26 for the basic food groups. 24:29 Okay, so a serving is kind of dietician, 24:31 medical specialist language. 24:33 Right. It's the recommended amount of food. 24:36 Help me here. Let's say someone says, 24:38 "A serving of meat." What does that look like? 24:41 Okay, a serving of meat is going to look 24:43 basically like a deck of cards. 24:45 It's about 2 to 3 ounces of meat. 24:47 A deck of cards-- I mean, that's tiny! 24:50 Because a portion, what someone puts on their plate, 24:53 is usually much bigger than that, isn't it? 24:55 Right, so a portion is actually 24:56 what you choose to put on your plate. 24:59 And that could be smaller or larger 25:01 than the recommended serving size. 25:04 Okay, so can we use this information somehow, 25:07 this portion size information, 25:08 to plan our plates, to plan our meals? 25:11 Yes. Now, the first thing you want to do 25:14 to reduce your portion size is to use smaller plates. 25:17 Now you know that in the 1960s 25:21 the average dinner plate was 9 inches, 25:25 and it held about 800 calories. 25:28 Through the years, that of course has increased, 25:30 and now we have 12-inch plates 25:33 that can hold up to 1900 calories. 25:37 And here, I ran across this plate, 25:40 it's called the Portion Plate. 25:42 And it's a 9-inch plate, 25:44 and it has different pictures that illustrates 25:47 different portions that they recommend for different foods. 25:50 But what I like best is that it 25:52 gives what an ideal meal should be. 25:55 And what is that? I mean, how does it 25:56 show you an ideal meal? 25:58 Well, you can do this with your own plate. 25:59 And that would be, you divide it in half, 26:01 and half of the plate should be your fruits or vegetables, 26:04 And then the next half, the second half, 26:07 you divide it again in half, 26:09 so one quarter of the plate should be your healthy grains, 26:11 and the rest, the remaining quarter, 26:14 would be the protein food. 26:15 And I recommend that be plant-based proteins like beans. 26:19 So basically I can lose weight-- 26:20 I mean, I don't want to lose weight, 26:22 but if someone's trying to lose weight, 26:24 they can simply cut their plate in half, 26:26 put half of that plate into fruits and vegetables, 26:29 the other half divide it into quarters, if you will, 26:32 and you've got the protein foods and the whole grains. 26:35 I'm Dr. David DeRose. 26:36 Hopefully you've learned some things today that will help you 26:38 reach your health goals. 26:40 If you want more information, simply go to: 26:52 Modern views of evolution stem all the way back 26:54 to theories developed in the mid-1800s. 26:57 Out of the same time period came ideas that shape 27:01 our educational system today. 27:03 The Common School Movement, for example, 27:06 saw schools more like a factory, 27:08 with students blindly memorizing instruction 27:11 rather than thinking for themselves. 27:13 Their curriculum was rigid and theoretical. 27:16 Instead of being flexible and practical, 27:19 it was designed to conform the individual 27:21 into a specific ideological mold 27:24 that fit the needs of an old industrial era 27:27 long since passed. 27:29 Just like our view of creation in six literal days, 27:33 we believe the Bible contains an educational blueprint 27:37 radically different from the one we see now. 27:53 Well friends, that's it for today. 27:54 Pick up the phone and give us a call at: 28:04 May God bless you. |
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