Hi friends, and welcome to
another edition of NEWSTART Now.
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And before we get
to this interview,
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I just want to thank
you for your support,
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your prayers,
and your phone calls.
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Right now I'd like you
to take a look at Lindsay
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when she first arrived
here at our NEWSTART program.
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I have bacteria infection,
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and we were taking antibiotics,
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and I keep taking more and more
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but nothing happens.
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So we needed to do something.
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We looked at all the centers,
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and we found out
this was the best for me.
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So we went here.
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I want to have no
bacteria infection or eczema.
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Welcome back, friends,
and in our studio, Lindsay.
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How are you,
young lady? - I'm great.
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You know that you are
our youngest guest so far?
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- I didn't know that.
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- Well, see, now you know that,
and I'm so pleased you're here.
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I'm so pleased that you've
chosen our NEWSTART program.
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And tell us about, how
are they treating you here?
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I love the
treatment they do here,
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and everybody's so nice here.
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Who's your favorite?
I mean, aside from me,
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who is your favorite here?
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Um...I don't know.
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- You don't know?
Okay, that's okay.
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What did you like
about the program?
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Tell us about how
they've been treating you.
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They've been
treating me very nice,
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and what I like
about this program is
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there's lots of
stuff you can do here,
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and there's lots of activities.
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And like, what kind of
activities have you been doing?
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There's puzzles
here. - Puzzles, okay.
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And...I was really busy,
and I do the computer sometimes
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- if I'm bored. Okay.
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What about the
treatment for your condition?
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How has that changed, if at all?
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It has changed my
inside and my outside.
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Your inside? How has
it changed your inside?
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Well, I think it's
cleaning the toxic.
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Okay, so the toxins
are being eliminated,
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and why do you
suppose that's happening?
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Because I've
been eating very good.
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Okay, you've changed
your diet, I understand.
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You're eating a whole
plant-based food diet,
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with a lot of vegetables and
grains and so on and so forth,
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is that correct? - Yes.
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- And how do you like
the food? Pretty good.
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- Pretty good. Alright.
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And have you been
up to the water tower?
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Yeah. - You have?
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Yes. - What did you think
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of that little walk up there?
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It's kind of cool. - Cool.
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I like the water tower. - Yeah.
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The weather's been on the cool
side since you've been here,
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but starting today it's
going to start warming up.
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So, your doctor is Doctor who?
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Lukens, Doctor
Lukens. - Doctor Lukens.
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And we're going to
be interviewing him
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in just a little bit, and we're
going to be talking about you.
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You don't mind, do you?
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I don't mind. - Okay, good.
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So how does Doctor
Lukens say you're faring?
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How is your skin condition
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responding to
this new lifestyle?
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I think it needs more time,
but I think it's getting better.
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Wonderful.
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Now the audience, the
viewers, probably don't know,
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who is with you as you're
going through this program?
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Because at 9 years old, of
course you need a companion.
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Who's with you? - My dad.
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- Your dad's with you? Mhmm.
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- Oh good! He's been
with you all this time?
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Well, the first
couple days my mom was here,
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so I went the rest with my dad.
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And do you find that you're able
to get the treatment you want,
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even though your
parents are here?
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Are you able to do all
the things you want to do?
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Yeah. - Okay.
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Now, you did attend the
cooking schools, did you not?
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I do, and I love them.
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You do, and have you
learned something new?
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Yep. - Did you learn
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how to make ice cream?
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Yeah, but I'm
allergic to every nut.
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You're allergic to all the nuts?
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Oh, goodness.
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Well that was
one of my favorite.
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My favorite was
the fruit smoothie.
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The fruit smoothie. [laughter]
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That's always a big...
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Everyone likes
that fruit smoothie.
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So you had the cooking classes.
Did you do hydro and massage?
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Yeah, I love it.
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Did you see the...
Were you in the car wash?
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I don't know what that is.
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You know, where they get
all the sprays all over you.
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- Oh, yeah.
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Our guests have
nicknamed that "the car wash,"
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because it's like
driving through a car wash
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with all these
sprays and everything.
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There's about 12
or 14 heads in there,
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and they're all spraying
on you at the same time.
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I like it. - Good.
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Did you like the hot and cold
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contrasting
showers that you received?
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I didn't really receive them.
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I've been doing charcoal packs.
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Oh, you've been doing
the charcoal. Oh, okay.
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And that's helping your skin.
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- Yes. Alright.
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Tell us what other
treatments you received here.
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You know, there's a young
lady watching you right now
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amongst our viewers
out in the audience,
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and they're probably wondering
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whether this
program would help them.
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So tell these
young people out there
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these 8,10, and
12-year-old people,
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how you're treated and
what you're doing here.
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Well, we're
doing lots of things.
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We're doing lots of activities,
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cooking school and
eating a vegan diet.
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- What's a vegan diet?
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It's where you eat no
food with the animal's product.
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No animal product.
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So you totally eliminate
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anything that's
come from an animal.
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Mhmm. - Okay.
That's a vegan diet.
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Yes. - Alright.
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What else are you doing?
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Inspire these people
to want to come here now.
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Tell them how
much fun you're having.
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Well, here we have lots of fun,
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and we walk a lot
here, just to exercise,
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which is good for you, and...
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I don't know. - That's okay.
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You walk a lot,
which is good for you.
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People need to know that.
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But you're young and
you've got a lot of energy,
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and walking is
not a big deal. - No.
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How about your dad? Has he
been able to keep up with you?
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Yeah. - He's
here with us now, huh?
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Yep. [laughter]
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So, what are you going
to do when you get home?
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Tell us about that, Lindsay.
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I'm going to keep
doing the vegan diet.
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And what else
are you going to do?
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Well, when I was here they
were doing the charcoal wraps,
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and I'm going to
do that at home, too.
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Good. Now, have you learned
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what the
acronym is for NEWSTART?
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N, nutrition, E, exercise,
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W, walking, - Water.
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Oh, water. -
Walking's good, too.
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Because you already
covered that in exercise,
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so the W would be for water.
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- And the S?
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I forgot. - Sunshine.
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The T is temperance.
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- A?
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A, I forgot. - Air.
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- And R?
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- Rest. Rest, and T...
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- Trust in the Divine Power. Oh.
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Now if you remember those,
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you remember how the
lifestyle is that you've chosen,
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and you can easily
follow that lifestyle
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by remembering
that acronym, okay?
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Okay. - Okay, so Lindsay,
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it's been a real
joy having you here,
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and I just thank God
that I got the opportunity
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to interview with you
and chat with you on our set.
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But I'd like you to
tell me, when you go home,
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what is your mom
and dad going to eat
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when you're doing
all these vegan diets?
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They're going to eat vegan, too.
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Are they vegan? Mhmm.
My mom is, and my dad is.
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Were they vegan
before they got here?
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My mom was and I
was, but my dad wasn't.
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Oh, but now he's vegan. - Yes.
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- So he's committed
to you, is that right?
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Mhmm. - Okay.
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And who's going
to do the cooking?
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My mom. - Are you
going to help her?
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Yes.
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And are you going
to make smoothies?
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Yeah. [laughter]
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You gotta have
smoothies! - Yeah. I love 'em.
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Are you going to put any
vegetables in the smoothies?
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Hmm, I don't know.
- You can if you like.
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I like to use vegetables and
fruit and mix them all together,
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and it makes it real tasty.
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Gives you a lot of energy when
you're finished drinking it.
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Yep. Just like an
energy drink, except better.
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- Except better, right!
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Well Lindsay, thank you
so much again for joining us.
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I really
appreciate you coming on set.
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And I pray that all
your wishes be granted.
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[giggles] Okay.
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And friends, thank
you for joining us,
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but don't go away,
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because Doctor Lukens is
going to be right with us.
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Well, you've done very well.
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Do you have diabetes,
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heart disease,
high blood pressure,
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or do you weigh too much?
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Hi, my name is Dr. Ing,
and I'd like to tell you
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about our 18-day
NEWSTART lifestyle program.
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It includes a
comprehensive medical evaluation
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with laboratory studies
and an exercise stress test,
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physician consultations,
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culinary school,
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and an opportunity to
walk on beautiful trails
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in the foothills of the Sierras.
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Your health is one of the most
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important things
that you have. Don't wait.
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Give us a call at:
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Or visit our website:
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Hi friends, and welcome back,
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and as I
promised, Doctor Lukens.
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Very good to see you again.
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It's always so good to see
you. - Yep, very very good.
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And we have a special
young lady to talk about today.
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This is our
youngest guest, by the way,
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for the NEWSTART
program. - Oh yes, yes.
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And as I recall,
it's probably our
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youngest guest here
through the NEWSTART, period.
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I think years ago
we've had younger ones, yeah.
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I meant in our
NEWSTART Now program.
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Oh yeah, yeah,
that's for sure, yeah.
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And she's such a
delightful young lady.
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She's very...she's right on it.
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She knows what
she's talking about,
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and she says she's doing better.
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But tell us from your
point of view, how is she?
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Well you know,
her mother and father
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are really pleased that
she's such a happy little girl
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for all the things
that she's been through,
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and she...you can tell
that she's a smart little kid.
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And you know, a
lot of kids would
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be cowed in the
corner or something like that
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if they have health problems.
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But she's not, and so
that's a tribute to her parents
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and of course to our
loving heavenly Father.
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The thing is with these
kind of allergies that she has,
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it's in the...it's
the skin, as you can see.
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Some of the ones that she
has what we'd call eczema,
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a skin allergy.
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And some of them are real deep
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and they'll stay
in the same spots.
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But hers is kind of a
general, overall body reaction.
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And her father
has the same thing.
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I guess she got it
from his side of the family.
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I didn't know that. He
hadn't said anything to me.
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Yes, and they will know, because
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anytime you have
this as your problem,
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your health problem,
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it's very obvious, because
it's just right on your face.
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- Yeah, you're
looking at it every day.
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And I talked to him this
morning and he said, you know,
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when he gets up in the morning
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he can look at
his face in the mirror
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and he already knows what
kind of a day it's going to be.
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And right now
the pollens are out.
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This is a... We
have that, and so
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I asked him,
because I saw his face too,
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and he has the
redness and the itching,
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and that's some of
the problems with that.
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Is there a way to diagnose
through blood draws, etc,
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anything that has to
do with this condition?
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Well you know, I've
heard this in the past,
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and I see that it's true.
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In medicine, whenever we
have anything where there's
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a lot of
different ways to do it,
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it's one of two things.
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And it's either that
all of them are pretty good,
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or that none of
them are very helpful.
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[laughter]
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And unfortunately, that's
the problem with allergies.
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They do the skin scratch test
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and she's had
some where she said
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it just left a
fiery mark on her.
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And they have the blood test.
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The trouble is, is the
body's always changing,
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and frequently the
foods that you like to eat,
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if you eat them over
and over and over again,
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your body tends to
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start to react to those
that you keep eating so much of.
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And sometimes those are
the foods that you like,
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so that's why
you go back to them.
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Bless her
heart, the little girl,
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she would raise her hand
when I was giving a lecture
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and I would see her over there,
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and I'd watch, and pretty
soon I'd say, "Yes, Lindsay?
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What would you like
to ask?" and she says,
00:15:08.63\00:15:12.45
"Is it alright
if I eat chocolate?"
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[laughter]
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Well, of course it's
alright if you eat chocolate!
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Yeah, that's a plant
food, of course, you know.
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What could be wrong with that?
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We grow cocoa, right?
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How do you handle that?
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Well, no, see,
the thing is is that
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the whole plant
foods, and chocolate has
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some things in it that's like...
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Coffee has
caffeine, and chocolate,
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and tea, and all these things,
they have substances that
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kind of excite the body,
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and we're trying
to keep things calm.
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One of the things
that's been helpful for her
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is some of the baths
and the oils and so forth.
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They've tried various things,
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The body, as we know, is made
up of the foods that we eat,
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and really, the
foods that we've eaten,
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some of them will
stay in our body for years.
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And so the longer she does this,
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the better she'll be.
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Now she said, as you
could see in our clip,
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that she's noticed a change.
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She's noticed it internally,
and she's feeling different.
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But you're saying that,
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that being the case, it may take
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months, perhaps
years, before she's totally
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being able to
eat almost anything.
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Yeah, and it's
tough, you know, because...
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I could see her
light up the other day.
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Her mom was able to bring
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a couple of the animals
and some of her friends.
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And she was just out running
around in the sunshine and just,
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she just lit up, you know.
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Well, you could
expect that to happen.
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But anyway, the thing is is that
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I keep talking
about the prostaglandins
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and these things, and
it's so important because
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they do a couple
of things. One of them
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is that they dilate your
tiny little blood vessels.
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Of course that would
make your face redder
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or something like that.
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But the part that I
want us to think about
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is that they also
decrease inflammation.
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- So that's really the
point you want to reach.
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- That's the
point that we want to...
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And those prostaglandins,
as you told us over and over,
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And I'm still getting
it. I'm still...I hear that
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in my head, you saying
and talking about those.
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And they're made up of
the type of foods that we eat.
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- Yes. And so,
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what she noticed is that even
though the redness is there,
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is that the
itching isn't as much.
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Really? - Yeah.
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And whenever you
scratch, of course,
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you've known that as well--
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And this is a
really bad pollen time.
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The other day when
we were out on the walk,
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my left eye was just
a little bit irritated.
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But I knew that if I
started scratching it
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that it would
probably get all red
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and I'd want to
scratch it some more.
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So that's been a real problem.
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So the fact that with
the different prostaglandins
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that she's getting,
and there's less itching...
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What's really
pleasing to her folks
00:18:04.24\00:18:08.12
is that she would
just go like this,
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and then the scratches,
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they would get infected,
00:18:15.72\00:18:17.03
and then she'd have
to go on antibiotics.
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And what I was
noticing is where, you know,
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her clothes rub,
and when she's walking--
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there, and around the
belt and stuff like that.
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That's an
irritant, and that tends...
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So the itching is a good
thing, that that's decreased.
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And they can see that a
lot of these really bad sores
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and stuff are
starting to heal up.
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And she already
does have some scars,
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but at her age, you know,
those will fade as time goes by.
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And the thing that will be a
real challenge and will be tough
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is for her to do this
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when she's, you
know, with her friends,
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with the kids that are
around. You know, they'll say,
00:19:00.78\00:19:02.75
"Oh come on, you can do this."
00:19:02.78\00:19:04.18
- "You can have this
and have that," right.
00:19:04.21\00:19:06.00
But she is very
conscientious, and so
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with the itching down,
without all the scratching,
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and then as she continues
to eat just the plant foods--
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and her folks are
going to do this with her.
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Her dad needs to.
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We've seen that
people through the
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weeks and the
months and the years
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as they go by, that they can
get better and better on this.
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That's so wonderful
to hear you say that,
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and what a wonderful child.
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I'm so inspired
with her attitude.
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She seems so much more mature,
00:19:36.42\00:19:39.27
and she really
does, at nine years old,
00:19:39.42\00:19:42.00
she really understands
what's going on here.
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- Yes, she does, yeah.
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And I think we
have someone who's
00:19:45.60\00:19:47.15
going to stick to
the program, don't you?
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Yeah, it'll be
tough. It'll be tough.
00:19:49.12\00:19:51.42
But she has a lot of
support, and it's good.
00:19:51.54\00:19:55.12
And you know, coming
back to this other again,
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what we eat is so important,
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because everything
in our body changes.
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From the cell membrane,
00:20:03.67\00:20:05.51
where the cells are
elastic and pliable,
00:20:05.52\00:20:08.57
they're resistant to allergens,
00:20:10.72\00:20:12.33
and what goes inside the
cells, the way they work.
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And bless her heart, you know,
00:20:16.72\00:20:18.39
she's determined to do
more and more exercise.
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Yesterday she got up to
where she was walking six miles.
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And her father said...
00:20:26.12\00:20:27.18
- Six miles! Yeah, six miles.
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I told her she only
really needs to do 3 to 5.
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But her father said, you know,
00:20:32.39\00:20:35.06
she's healthier,
she's in better shape.
00:20:35.24\00:20:38.36
So he's happy about it, too.
00:20:38.39\00:20:39.78
And he's getting
healthier as well.
00:20:40.27\00:20:42.48
So this program is
helping him, as well,
00:20:42.57\00:20:45.66
even though he's
here to assist her.
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Yeah, and we need to
pray for these people,
00:20:48.03\00:20:49.33
because you can imagine
just constantly being itching,
00:20:49.36\00:20:52.15
and I've seem them just
slapping, slapping their face
00:20:52.36\00:20:55.03
to try to get rid of it,
and they can't, you know.
00:20:55.09\00:20:58.06
But the good news is
that we've seen people
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do better and better
the longer they're on it.
00:21:01.30\00:21:04.09
That is great news, and Doctor,
00:21:04.54\00:21:06.54
you know, it's
great having you here,
00:21:06.84\00:21:08.78
and I really
appreciate you taking your time.
00:21:08.84\00:21:11.75
I know you doctors are busy
from morning till beyond sunset,
00:21:12.00\00:21:16.66
and I want to thank
you for taking your time.
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Well, we need to
encourage everybody that we can.
00:21:19.42\00:21:21.48
- Yes we do, and thank
you. That's so good, yeah.
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And folks, that's
it for this segment,
00:21:24.21\00:21:25.87
but don't go away! We have
an important message for you
00:21:26.03\00:21:28.54
right after this.
00:21:28.57\00:21:29.84
Welcome to NEWSTART at Home.
00:21:44.18\00:21:45.72
I'm your host, Dr. David DeRose.
00:21:45.75\00:21:47.75
With me today,
Hildelisa Flickenger,
00:21:48.06\00:21:51.42
registered dietician and
00:21:51.43\00:21:52.87
masters-trained
nutrition specialist.
00:21:52.88\00:21:55.18
Hildelisa, it's always great
to have you on the program.
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Thank you for having me.
00:21:57.45\00:21:58.75
We've been talking in
previous episodes about weight--
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the huge problems that Americans
are facing in this area.
00:22:02.54\00:22:05.33
And I know a lot of times
some people say we're just
00:22:05.51\00:22:08.03
hyping this up as
health professionals.
00:22:08.15\00:22:10.18
Is this everything
that it's blown up to be?
00:22:10.27\00:22:13.15
Well, I think so.
00:22:13.36\00:22:14.57
You know, 67 percent of
Americans, or of adults,
00:22:14.63\00:22:18.30
are either overweight or obese.
00:22:18.36\00:22:21.24
And this of course poses a
great risk for chronic disease
00:22:21.48\00:22:24.54
such as diabetes and
hypertension and heart disease.
00:22:24.55\00:22:28.42
And how much does obesity
have to do with these diseases?
00:22:28.57\00:22:33.15
Just for example,
just a couple of examples,
00:22:33.21\00:22:35.87
according to the CDC,
00:22:36.06\00:22:37.54
80 percent of obesity,
or excuse me, of diabetes,
00:22:37.66\00:22:42.81
is related to obesity.
00:22:42.84\00:22:44.57
- So this is
not a radical group.
00:22:44.81\00:22:46.00
Centers for Disease Control is
00:22:46.09\00:22:47.33
a well-recognized
government agency.
00:22:47.36\00:22:49.69
And they're saying that 80
percent of diabetes in America
00:22:49.70\00:22:52.54
is due to
obesity, at least in part?
00:22:52.66\00:22:54.33
Right, and 70
percent of heart disease,
00:22:54.45\00:22:58.45
cardiovascular
disease, is due to obesity, too.
00:22:58.63\00:23:02.27
So we've got to get some
more practical hints today
00:23:02.30\00:23:05.09
how people can help
trim those waistlines,
00:23:05.15\00:23:08.72
and as a registered dietician,
00:23:08.81\00:23:10.57
you've got great
expertise in this area.
00:23:10.58\00:23:12.66
What kind of things do
you find connect with people?
00:23:12.75\00:23:15.30
What kind of practical things
help them to lose a few pounds?
00:23:15.45\00:23:18.21
Well, there are
three basic strategies
00:23:18.33\00:23:20.24
to help with weight loss.
00:23:20.25\00:23:21.45
Number one, that
would be to eat more foods
00:23:21.63\00:23:24.03
that are low in energy density.
00:23:24.06\00:23:26.72
Number two, to be
physically active,
00:23:27.06\00:23:29.15
and number three, to
reduce portion sizes.
00:23:29.21\00:23:32.30
Now portions, of course,
this is the main contributor
00:23:32.42\00:23:35.78
to obesity in
our country, because
00:23:35.79\00:23:37.75
Americans eat too much.
00:23:37.76\00:23:39.69
We have oversized
our plates and ourselves.
00:23:39.81\00:23:42.60
But I mean, it's not
really our fault, is it?
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Because you go into a
restaurant or a fast food place
00:23:44.37\00:23:47.24
and they want to give you
some kind of supersize serving.
00:23:47.25\00:23:49.84
Isn't that the way it works?
You get more for your money?
00:23:49.87\00:23:51.69
That's right, and you know,
00:23:52.09\00:23:53.75
when we're talking about
portions you hear those words
00:23:53.81\00:23:56.75
'serving' and
'portions' used interchangeably.
00:23:56.87\00:23:59.75
But they refer
to different things.
00:23:59.81\00:24:02.00
Okay, wait a
minute. So if someone says,
00:24:02.12\00:24:03.63
"One serving of broccoli,"
00:24:03.78\00:24:06.18
that's different than
a portion of broccoli?
00:24:06.30\00:24:08.72
Yes. - Make this clear for us.
00:24:08.73\00:24:10.66
- How does that work?
00:24:10.78\00:24:11.84
Well, a serving is not what
you happen to put on your plate.
00:24:11.87\00:24:15.54
A serving is actually
a specific amount of food
00:24:15.55\00:24:19.27
defined in common measurement
00:24:19.28\00:24:21.45
such as cups and tablespoons.
00:24:21.51\00:24:23.87
Basically to
make recommendations
00:24:24.15\00:24:26.72
for the basic food groups.
00:24:26.73\00:24:28.75
Okay, so a serving
is kind of dietician,
00:24:29.09\00:24:31.48
medical specialist language.
00:24:31.51\00:24:33.60
Right. It's the
recommended amount of food.
00:24:33.81\00:24:35.60
Help me here.
Let's say someone says,
00:24:36.03\00:24:38.51
"A serving of meat."
What does that look like?
00:24:38.52\00:24:41.33
Okay, a serving of
meat is going to look
00:24:41.36\00:24:43.60
basically like a deck of cards.
00:24:43.61\00:24:45.36
It's about 2 to
3 ounces of meat.
00:24:45.37\00:24:47.24
A deck of cards--
I mean, that's tiny!
00:24:47.27\00:24:50.12
Because a portion, what
someone puts on their plate,
00:24:50.21\00:24:53.30
is usually much
bigger than that, isn't it?
00:24:53.45\00:24:55.21
Right, so a portion is actually
00:24:55.24\00:24:56.87
what you choose
to put on your plate.
00:24:56.88\00:24:58.87
And that could
be smaller or larger
00:24:59.24\00:25:01.54
than the
recommended serving size.
00:25:01.57\00:25:03.84
Okay, so can we use
this information somehow,
00:25:04.12\00:25:07.09
this portion size information,
00:25:07.21\00:25:08.75
to plan our
plates, to plan our meals?
00:25:08.78\00:25:11.24
Yes. Now, the first
thing you want to do
00:25:11.25\00:25:13.87
to reduce your portion
size is to use smaller plates.
00:25:14.00\00:25:17.63
Now you know that in the 1960s
00:25:17.78\00:25:20.78
the average dinner
plate was 9 inches,
00:25:21.15\00:25:25.00
and it held about 800 calories.
00:25:25.27\00:25:28.15
Through the years, that
of course has increased,
00:25:28.27\00:25:30.75
and now we have 12-inch plates
00:25:30.81\00:25:33.30
that can hold up
to 1900 calories.
00:25:33.36\00:25:37.36
And here, I ran
across this plate,
00:25:37.63\00:25:40.69
it's called the Portion Plate.
00:25:40.70\00:25:42.33
And it's a 9-inch plate,
00:25:42.39\00:25:44.36
and it has different
pictures that illustrates
00:25:44.54\00:25:47.06
different portions that they
recommend for different foods.
00:25:47.12\00:25:50.21
But what I like best is that it
00:25:50.24\00:25:52.33
gives what an
ideal meal should be.
00:25:52.36\00:25:55.00
And what is that?
I mean, how does it
00:25:55.21\00:25:56.30
show you an ideal meal?
00:25:56.31\00:25:57.39
Well, you can do
this with your own plate.
00:25:57.42\00:25:59.27
And that would be,
you divide it in half,
00:25:59.51\00:26:01.33
and half of the plate should
be your fruits or vegetables,
00:26:01.45\00:26:04.81
And then the next
half, the second half,
00:26:04.84\00:26:07.66
you divide it again in half,
00:26:07.67\00:26:09.03
so one quarter of the plate
should be your healthy grains,
00:26:09.04\00:26:11.60
and the rest, the
remaining quarter,
00:26:11.69\00:26:14.03
would be the protein food.
00:26:14.04\00:26:15.87
And I recommend that be
plant-based proteins like beans.
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So basically I can lose weight--
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I mean, I don't
want to lose weight,
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but if someone's
trying to lose weight,
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they can simply cut
their plate in half,
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put half of that plate
into fruits and vegetables,
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the other half divide it
into quarters, if you will,
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and you've got the protein
foods and the whole grains.
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I'm Dr. David DeRose.
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Hopefully you've learned some
things today that will help you
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reach your health goals.
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If you want more
information, simply go to:
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Modern views of
evolution stem all the way back
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to theories
developed in the mid-1800s.
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Out of the same time
period came ideas that shape
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our educational system today.
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The Common School
Movement, for example,
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saw schools more like a factory,
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with students blindly
memorizing instruction
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rather than
thinking for themselves.
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Their curriculum was
rigid and theoretical.
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Instead of being
flexible and practical,
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it was designed to
conform the individual
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into a specific ideological mold
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that fit the needs
of an old industrial era
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long since passed.
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Just like our view of
creation in six literal days,
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we believe the Bible contains
an educational blueprint
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radically different
from the one we see now.
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Well friends,
that's it for today.
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Pick up the phone
and give us a call at:
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May God bless you.
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