Participants: Ron Giannoni (Host), Al Weathington
Series Code: NSN
Program Code: NSN000060
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00:24 Hi friends, and welcome to another edition of NEWSTART Now.
00:28 In our studio with us now we have Al Weatherington 00:31 from Sacramento, California, 00:33 and Al has an unusual condition. 00:36 But before we get into this interview, 00:38 I'd like to show you a segment 00:40 of his condition when he first arrived. 00:44 Prior to coming to NEWSTART, I had a bad experience 00:49 with my health as far as losing control. 01:00 And by that I mean I was not eating on a regular basis. 01:05 And as a result, I lost consciousness one day. 01:11 When I lost consciousness I fell out on the floor, 01:14 and I had absolutely no control. 01:17 I was flailing around on the floor, 01:20 and I managed somehow to crawl up on the bed. 01:24 And I recognized what the symptoms were 01:30 even though I couldn't even say "Help." 01:33 Currently I have diabetes, 01:35 as well as hypertension, 01:38 as well as kidney or renal difficulties. 01:43 What I'd like to get out of the program is 01:45 I want to feel closer to God. 01:49 I want to reverse the diabetes, 01:53 the symptoms that I experience from diabetes, 01:56 as well as the kidney problems. 01:59 And I want to live a complete life, 02:05 the way it was before I had these symptoms. 02:10 Hi friends, and welcome back, 02:12 and as I promised, Al is in our studio. 02:15 Al, forgive me, I said your name "Weatherington," 02:20 But it's Weathington. - That's correct. 02:22 And we'll drop the "er". - Thank you. 02:25 So, tell us what's happened. 02:27 I know you came here, 02:28 you've got a lot of things you're dealing with. 02:31 What's transpired? 02:34 Well, since I've been here, 02:37 I've even changed my objective. 02:42 You know, I had the opportunity to read 02:46 and stay in touch with my Bible, and it says, 02:48 "Seek ye first the kingdom of God 02:52 and His righteousness, and all these things 02:55 will be added unto you." 02:56 - Amen. 02:58 Well, I've taken that to heart. 03:01 And I know that I should seek 03:04 a closer relationship with the Lord first, 03:08 and my health will fall in line with that 03:12 as I do that. I believe that very strongly. 03:15 Very strongly. 03:17 And you've learned that while you've been here? 03:19 I have. 03:21 And the chaplain help, and the fellowship help, 03:26 the help from all of the staff members, 03:31 they've been extremely helpful, and I've come to that conclusion 03:36 that it's God that does the healing. 03:38 And we can do various things to assist, 03:43 but it's God that actually does the healing. 03:46 Amen. I'd like our viewers to really take notice 03:49 of what Al is saying, and we believe that here 03:52 at our NEWSTART program. 03:54 And I want to ask Al a question here, Al. 03:57 I was told, and correct me if I'm wrong, 04:00 that you were told that you had to get 04:03 dialysis treatment within a week or two 04:06 prior to you even coming here. 04:09 While I was here, I was scheduled 04:14 to have an operation to have the tubes put in 04:17 for the dialysis. 04:19 And I had to call my doctor and notify him 04:23 that I will not be there for that operation. 04:29 In other words, "You go ahead and start without me." 04:31 [laughter] There you go, that's correct. 04:33 - Well, you know, this is marvelous news. 04:37 And we're going to be tracking you, as you know. 04:40 We, meaning Doctor Lukens is going to be 04:43 right in your back pocket every step of the way 04:46 to support you through this time, this crisis. 04:49 And we'll be praying with you and for you, 04:52 to our Father, who did say that you ask, 04:55 and you shall receive. 04:57 And we really believe that. 04:59 And we want you to receive what is necessary. 05:04 God has a plan for you. 05:05 - Yes, He does. And you know He does, 05:07 He's going to be working on you. 05:09 You've got a job to do, and it ain't over yet. 05:12 - Yeah, that's correct. 05:13 - And I know I have to do my part, as well. 05:15 - Yes, yes. 05:17 I have to exercise, I have to, you know, 05:21 take medications if necessary 05:23 until I get to the place that I don't need any. 05:27 But I know the Lord is going to be with me, 05:31 and He's going to do the healing. 05:33 Now what has taken place from the time you arrived 05:37 till now, that you notice 05:40 something different in you? 05:44 My blood sugars are much better, 05:48 due to exercise and proper eating. 05:53 I feel stronger and more vibrant 05:57 because I do exercise. 06:00 I get proper rest, 06:03 and this open air and beautiful surroundings 06:07 really aids in that. 06:09 And so I just feel more vibrant. 06:13 since I've been here. - Alright. 06:16 And so the doctor is telling you, 06:18 that's Doctor Lukens, he's saying to you that... 06:21 Does he have any proof, 06:25 from a doctor's point of view, that things are changing? 06:29 Not just the blood glucose dropping, 06:32 but any other signs of renal condition making a change? 06:38 My creatine figures have gone down, 06:41 so he says that's a positive direction, 06:44 meaning that my kidneys have responded 06:48 to the treatment that I've had since I've been here, 06:51 in a positive way. 06:53 Yes! 06:54 I love to hear that. 06:56 So you're on your way to recovery, 06:58 and just think-- 06:59 three weeks, four weeks ago, you were thinking, 07:02 "Oh my goodness, I have to go into this surgical procedure." 07:06 I understand it's no big deal. 07:08 But I don't want to have it done. 07:10 - No, no. 07:11 And praise God, you don't have to have it done now, either. 07:14 - That's correct, that's correct. 07:15 So, what are you going to do from here? 07:18 I know you've learned what you needed to learn. 07:22 What happens now when you get home? 07:24 I just have to continue what I learned while I was here. 07:26 I have to continue that on a daily basis. 07:31 Again, focus on God and what He will do for me, 07:37 and the the exercise and the other tools that I'll use 07:41 that I learned while I was here, 07:43 and put them into my daily life. 07:47 And so I have a New Start. 07:50 - Amen. 07:51 Now, tell our brothers and sisters who are watching, 07:55 what can they do, these people who've been told, 07:58 "Okay, next week we're going to put the tube in you." 08:01 What can they do? Give them some hope. 08:03 Like me, I would advise 08:08 anyone that was in the position that I was in 08:11 with renal conditions, fatal renal conditions, 08:16 to come to Weimar and see 08:21 what they will do for you. 08:23 They will explain it all before you actually, 08:26 you know, enter the program, 08:28 but let them explain to you. 08:30 And again, make certain that you have 08:33 first in mind your relationship with the Lord, 08:36 and all those other things, including your health, 08:40 will be improved likewise. 08:42 And have your priorities squared away, 08:45 and the Lord will bless you. 08:48 - Amen. Thank you so much for sharing that. 08:51 It means so much. 08:52 Coming from me or one of the doctors, 08:55 it has some meaning. 08:56 But when it comes from someone 08:57 who's going through that experience, 08:59 it means a whole lot more. 09:02 So, we have a couple minutes left here. 09:06 Tell us what you have learned 09:08 that's helping you right now. 09:09 Well, I really have learned the importance of exercise. 09:14 I was a couch potato. 09:17 You know, I had the remote, and I would, you know... 09:22 sit in front of that tube and change channels. 09:25 A lot of people are in my position. 09:28 And especially in a retired age like I am, 09:32 it's easy to do. 09:34 But the Bible brings it out very clearly 09:39 as it brings in the analogy 09:42 of a man in a race. 09:45 And we have to get up and exercise 09:49 so that we can stay in that race, 09:52 and there's no way to win it if you're not in the race. 09:56 And so we have to get up and exercise. 10:00 We have to eat properly, we have to experience fresh air. 10:03 We have to be temperate in all things. 10:07 Don't overdo anything. 10:09 And you know, we need the sunlight. 10:13 And there's so many things that I learned while I was here 10:17 that we need to include. 10:19 And most of all, our trust in God, 10:22 that He will bring us through. 10:24 We've run out of time. 10:25 I want to thank you for joining us in our studio. 10:28 - Thank you very much for having me. 10:30 God bless you, and we'll be in touch. 10:31 And thank you, friends. 10:32 Don't go away, 10:34 because Doctor Lukens will be right with us. 10:37 Well, you've done very well. 10:45 Do you have diabetes, 10:46 heart disease, high blood pressure, 10:49 or do you weigh too much? 10:51 Hi, my name is Dr. Ing, and I'd like to tell you 10:54 about our 18-day NEWSTART lifestyle program. 10:57 It includes a comprehensive medical evaluation 11:00 with laboratory studies and an exercise stress test, 11:04 physician consultations, 11:06 culinary school, 11:08 and an opportunity to walk on beautiful trails 11:11 in the foothills of the Sierras. 11:15 Your health is one of the most 11:16 important things that you have. Don't wait. 11:19 Give us a call at: 11:24 Or visit our website: 11:42 Welcome back friends, and in our studio, Dr. Lukens. 11:46 - Very good. I'm excited about this one. 11:48 I know you're excited about this, and so am I. 11:51 Why don't you tell our viewers why we're both excited about it. 11:55 Well the thing is, is that what we're trying to do 11:58 is we're trying to get this going 12:01 so that we can show people what will happen 12:04 when they have kidney disease, 12:06 especially when they're diabetic. 12:08 What can happen for them, 12:10 so that they don't have to go on dialysis. 12:13 And has there ever been any research 12:17 about renal failure, that you know of? 12:20 Well there's a huge amount of research going on all the time. 12:23 - Documented research? Oh yes, yeah. 12:25 And you know, as the numbers of diabetics expand 12:30 and the kidneys fail, 12:31 I don't know how the healthcare system 12:33 is going to be able to put everybody 12:35 on dialysis that needs it. 12:37 But we've never done any research 12:39 here at the NEWSTART program. 12:41 No, we've just had anecdotal cases, 12:45 but now we want to try to follow this up. 12:48 And the anecdotal cases have been 12:50 encouraging enough so that we want to do that. 12:53 Now with Al's case, 12:55 tell us about some of the changes 12:57 that you are witnessing as his doctor. 13:01 Well, one of the things is 13:03 when I saw him, they said, "Would NEWSTART help us?" 13:06 And I said, "Well, we have seen this in the past." 13:09 Frequently what will happen, though, 13:11 is that their numbers stay the same or they get worse 13:14 for some reason while they're here, 13:17 but his didn't. 13:18 His BUN and his creatinine are going in the right direction. 13:22 And that's exciting to see that. 13:26 But typically they get worse before they get better? 13:29 They can. Sometimes the BUN changes 13:32 more quickly than the creatinine does. 13:35 And that may come down a little bit, 13:37 but the creatinine may go up a little bit, 13:39 and I'm not sure how that happens, but it does. 13:42 But in his situation, his numbers 13:44 both went in the right direction. 13:47 So we've got a candidate for a reversal situation here, 13:51 hopefully, or prayerfully, I should say. 13:54 Yeah, and the 2 things that are very important to realizing this 13:58 is that when it's hypertensive kidney disease, 14:04 it's harder, because it's a different mechanism. 14:07 With the diabetic kidney disease, 14:11 what's happening is that those tiny little blood vessels 14:14 are slowly, slowly getting less and less circulation 14:18 right there to the cells, and the cells are getting sick, 14:22 they're getting weak, and they're actually dying off. 14:26 And then, I mean, he's down to where he should be on dialysis, 14:30 and in fact they've already said that 14:33 they want to get him started for that. 14:35 He would do the one where they do it in the peritoneum, 14:39 They'll put a cannula in there, 14:42 and then he'll be able to hook into that, 14:46 and every night he'll have to have the fluids 14:48 going in and out, in and out. 14:50 And yeah, it's a different life. 14:52 But we have a cure, more or less. 14:54 We know-- I'm saying "we," 14:57 the NEWSTART program aided by our doctors-- 15:01 know that a plant-based diet... 15:04 Healed by God. 15:05 - Healed by God. 15:07 And he kept saying that. 15:08 And he said that in our interview if you recall. 15:11 And every kind of healing comes from God. 15:13 Well tell our viewers about this... 15:17 what is extracted by our bodies 15:19 as we eat this plant-based diet. 15:22 Okay, well there's two things that happen. 15:24 One of them is that you have a smaller load on those kidneys. 15:30 And the reason is, is that the proteins that we eat 15:33 are different. 15:36 The amino acids are the same, 15:39 but the ratio of amino acids, 15:41 that keep coming in from the plant sources 15:44 and the ones at our bodies are using up. 15:46 When we get the ones from the meat, milk, and eggs, 15:50 those are going to overload in the areas that we're not using. 15:54 And so the kidneys have to filter all that stuff out, 15:59 and it's a bigger and bigger load. 16:01 The second thing is, that's so important to know, 16:03 is that when those kidneys start getting the blood circulation 16:07 going to them, 16:08 then they're going to get healthier and healthier. 16:12 And so as those little filtration units in the kidneys, 16:16 the little nephron units, get healthier, 16:18 then they start doing their work again. 16:21 And the way that we know that they're getting healthier 16:25 is that frequently the amount of protein 16:27 that's dumped into the urine is less. 16:29 Protein shouldn't be in the urine. 16:31 But we're going to be reassured 16:33 that if we go on a plant-based diet 16:35 that there's a certain chemical that comes from these plants 16:39 that expands those little capillaries and arteries. 16:42 It's the prostaglandins. 16:43 The prostaglandins, there's that word again! 16:46 Yep, there it is. 16:47 And we can see it at work in Al. 16:50 - And can we tell our viewers... 16:52 - Is that all they need to do, is just become vegan? 16:57 Yes, drink lots of water, and get their exercise, and do all-- 17:01 NEWSTART is a whole program. 17:04 It's something that gives health to all parts of the body. 17:09 The heart has to be strong and able to pump, 17:12 so that the blood can be pumped 17:15 through the kidneys and filtered out. 17:16 So all of these things all work together. 17:18 It's very harmonious. 17:20 And I like what Al has said 17:22 about the Lord working in his life. 17:25 And he knows that you have to have this trust in God. 17:28 And that's one of the... part of the acronym of NEWSTART. 17:34 And I'd like you to tell our viewers once again, 17:37 and I know we've discussed it in the past, 17:39 but what is that acronym, NEWSTART? 17:42 N stands for Nutrition, and E stands for Exercise, 17:47 Water, Sunlight, Temperance-- 17:50 That's a big one. - That's a big one. 17:53 Air, Rest-- We don't get that as we should. 17:58 A lot of people are on the NEWSTAT program. 18:01 Go, go, go, go, go! 18:03 Never get their rest, 18:05 never give the body a chance to heal. 18:08 And then of course the last one is Trusting in the Healer. 18:11 The thing that I'd like to come back and say, though, about Al, 18:15 is that his diabetes was hard to control. 18:19 And they had him on a long-acting insulin, 18:24 and that was a wonderful thing, you know. 18:25 He needed to have that. 18:27 But he had such a low blood sugar at one stage 18:32 that he actually went into insulin shock, 18:36 and while he was thrashing around 18:38 he hit himself on the shin here. 18:41 He has a big ole sore like that that's... 18:44 Yeah, and his blood sugars have been 18:46 hard to control while he was here. 18:48 And the blood pressure itself 18:51 has responded some, 18:52 but it's still going up and down. 18:54 So this is a long haul, 18:56 but what we've seen in the past 18:57 is people that should have been on dialysis 19:00 that haven't had to go on it. 19:02 We followed one lady for seven years. 19:05 And other people have come with a shunt already in their arm, 19:09 or the shunt is plugged up 19:11 and now they're going to have to use the other arm. 19:13 And this is really... 19:16 This dialysis thing isn't a fun thing. 19:19 And people would say, "Well, you know, 19:21 they've got these things that work so well now, 19:24 and I'm just going to go in, 19:26 and I'll just have to go in and have them 19:28 cleanse my blood every once in a while." 19:30 But it's not like that. 19:32 And they're always hoping and thinking, "Hey, you know, 19:35 in the future we're going to get better stuff. 19:38 And you can always get a kidney transplant." 19:40 But the thing is, is there just aren't 19:42 enough of those to go around. 19:44 And so do it, do it early, so that you don't... 19:48 you know, you can have a lot more of your body working. 19:52 You can still have your pancreas working. 19:54 And we know that when we bring the blood sugar down, 19:57 and when we get the body healthy so that we don't have to 20:00 take the medications to try to get this to happen, 20:04 we know that health is going to come. 20:08 And now more and more in the literature they're saying 20:11 the more medications you have to take, 20:13 the more insulin that you have to give, 20:15 the tougher it is on your body. 20:18 And when we do it with the lifestyle, 20:21 it's a win-win situation. 20:23 I'm so grateful that you're here 20:26 and that we have a program to help diabetics, 20:30 especially people with this renal condition. 20:33 And I know that you're going to be following him pretty closely, 20:37 as well as I will. - And others, yeah. 20:39 And if there's people in our area here, you know, 20:42 that are within about an hour's drive, 20:45 or even maybe two hours, 20:46 if they know about this, come through the program. 20:48 We'd like to follow you. 20:50 And he's already ready for dialysis. 20:53 They want to do it. They said, you know, 20:56 "You can't continue to live. 20:58 You can't be healthy unless you have it." 21:00 And that's true, except that 21:01 his kidneys are starting to work better already. 21:04 I think, Doctor Lukens, you've given some people here 21:07 watching us right now, you've given them some hope. 21:10 Well, I hope that that's true, 21:12 because it really, really works. 21:15 And is there any last-minute advice? 21:17 We've got just a few seconds left. 21:19 Yeah, come! Do it, 21:20 and see what it will do for you. 21:23 Doctor Lukens, thank you for joining us. 21:25 It's always a pleasure to have you here. 21:28 It's my pleasure, my pleasure. 21:31 And friends, there you have it. 21:32 You have it from Doctor Lukens and from Al, 21:36 that you can come to this program, 21:38 and you too can get well. 21:40 Don't go away. We'll be right back. 21:57 Welcome to NEWSTART at Home. 21:59 I'm Dr. David DeRose, your host today, 22:02 and with me is Hildelisa Flickinger, 22:04 a masters-trained nutritionist and registered dietician. 22:08 Hildelisa, it's great to be on the show again with you. 22:10 Glad to be here. 22:12 You've been looking at a real important topic, 22:15 and that is the topic of beverages. 22:18 There's a lot of stuff out there in the shelves 22:20 of stores and gas stations. 22:23 Should we be thinking about what we're drinking? 22:26 Is that important? 22:27 Oh, definitely! We all know the importance 22:29 of proper hydration for our bodies. 22:31 And as you well know, 22:33 there's no system in the body that does not depend on water. 22:36 So now people may be asking, 22:38 "Well, how much water should we drink?" 22:40 And just a basic rule is 22:42 8 to 10 eight-ounce glasses of water a day, 22:45 or just enough to keep the urine pale. 22:48 Okay, now that's for an adult, presumably. 22:50 Yes. 22:51 Because I know you've got some young children. 22:53 You're not making them drink 22:54 8 to 10 glasses of water a day, are you? 22:56 No, that might be too much. - Okay. 22:58 Now, another question that people often have is 23:02 "Should we wait until we're hungry? 23:03 I'll just wait until I'm thirsty 23:06 to drink water." 23:07 Well no, you should not wait, 23:09 because by that time you have some degree of dehydration. 23:12 And of course dehydration has many symptoms and problems, 23:16 one of which is that it lowers your metabolic rate. 23:20 And of course, if someone's trying to lose weight, 23:22 that is not good news. 23:24 So drinking more water can actually 23:26 help a person lose weight? 23:28 Yes, and not only that. 23:30 Studies have shown that adequate water intake 23:33 can help decrease the risk of some cancers, 23:37 and cardiovascular disease, and so on and so forth. 23:40 So water is really good stuff. 23:42 But there's a lot of people, Hildelisa-- 23:44 you know it as well as I do-- 23:45 that they say, "Listen. 23:46 I just don't like water." 23:48 What do you do for those people? 23:50 That's right. 23:51 Now, there are so many beverages out there 23:53 of course, and so many options for people. 23:55 But still, what do you think is the best 23:58 option for supplying our fluid needs? 24:00 Well it seems pretty clear to me from the medical research 24:03 literature that it's just pure H2O. 24:06 That's right - water. 24:07 Now there are some recent trends out there 24:10 in beverages, specifically in bottled waters. 24:13 And you've probably seen them. 24:16 You really can't miss them. 24:18 When you go to the grocery store you see the big displays, 24:21 the colorful bottles. 24:22 And one of the most popular is 24:25 one that they have added vitamins 24:27 and other ingredients to. 24:30 So these so-called flavored waters, 24:32 is that what we're talking about? 24:34 Yes, they're called enhanced waters. 24:36 Okay, enhanced waters. 24:38 That's right, and I have a bottle of it right here. 24:41 This is one of the most popular ones. 24:43 And I gave you a label, 24:45 and you're going to help me read the label. 24:47 We're going to see what comes 24:49 together with those added vitamins. 24:51 So what is the serving size? 24:53 Okay, serving size...per... 24:55 That container there, 24:57 it's got 2 -1/2 servings, it says. 25:00 That's right. The serving size is 8 ounces, 25:03 but it is a 20-ounce bottle. 25:06 So it has 2-1/2 servings. 25:08 Now how many calories per serving does it say? 25:10 Okay, I'm looking here. 25:12 Wow, it's got 13 grams of sugar in it, 25:16 and calories, 50! 25:18 Fifty calories! 25:19 And that is per serving. 25:21 So in a bottle you're going to have 125 calories 25:24 and 32-1/2 grams of sugar. 25:26 That's 8 teaspoons of sugar, 25:28 just a little less than a can of soda. 25:30 Eight teaspoons of sugar? 25:32 And they're selling this as... 25:33 Why do they call that enhanced? 25:35 I like flavored better than enhanced. 25:37 Enhanced makes it sound like it's better. 25:38 Yes, it's enhanced because it has added vitamins. 25:41 They've added vitamin A, vitamin C, and B vitamins. 25:45 But if you look closely at the label, 25:47 you'd have to drink the whole bottle 25:50 to get 100 percent of the RDAs for the B vitamins. 25:53 So basically if you're eating a balanced diet 25:58 or just taking a multivitamin, 26:00 you're just not going to get any benefit 26:02 from drinking these enhanced waters. 26:05 So this is looking more like a soft drink, 26:08 not a nutrition supplement. 26:09 Wow, so I would be better off if I'm concerned about 26:12 my vitamins, to just take a pill, 26:14 a multivitamin, with a good, pure glass of water, 26:19 maybe even from my tap. 26:21 That's right, and you won't get all the calories from this, 26:24 which is not going to help your weight. 26:27 Tremendous. 26:28 Hildelisa Flickinger has just given us another great insight 26:31 into how we can improve our health 26:33 and prevent weight gain. 26:35 Make a point of drinking adequate amounts of water 26:38 and choose the simple variety of water 26:42 that God made in the beginning-- just pure H2O. 26:45 I'm Dr. David DeRose. 26:46 You can get more information at: 26:58 Modern views of evolution stem all the way back 27:00 to theories developed in the mid-1800s. 27:04 Out of the same time period came ideas that shape 27:07 our educational system today. 27:10 The Common School Movement, for example, 27:12 saw schools more like a factory, 27:14 with students blindly memorizing instruction 27:17 rather than thinking for themselves. 27:19 Their curriculum was rigid and theoretical. 27:22 Instead of being flexible and practical, 27:25 it was designed to conform the individual 27:28 into a specific ideological mold 27:30 that fit the needs of an old industrial era 27:33 long since passed. 27:36 Just like our view of creation in six literal days, 27:39 we believe the Bible contains an educational blueprint 27:43 radically different from the one we see now. 27:59 Well, friends, that's it for today. 28:00 Pick up the phone and give us a call at: |
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