Hi friends, and welcome to another edition of NEWSTART Now. 00:00:23.72\00:00:27.00 In our studio today we have a young man 00:00:27.18\00:00:29.66 that came to us quite ill, 00:00:29.67\00:00:31.87 and I'd like to show you a segment when he first arrived. 00:00:32.03\00:00:35.30 The reason I came to NEWSTART and Weimar is 00:00:36.75\00:00:40.45 a year and a half ago I had a detached retina, 00:00:40.48\00:00:43.39 and it left me with about two months 00:00:43.78\00:00:47.18 in bed face down, or in general face down. 00:00:47.24\00:00:50.51 Problems developed from then -- 00:00:50.87\00:00:53.51 tightness, soreness, pain in the body. 00:00:53.52\00:00:55.87 Here recently it's gotten worse. 00:00:56.12\00:00:59.12 In the last three months or so, 00:00:59.45\00:01:03.57 it's gotten to the point where 00:01:03.72\00:01:07.57 I just have thoughts that 00:01:09.18\00:01:12.27 I don't really know if I'll be here in a year or two. 00:01:12.45\00:01:16.51 It's just...seems like there was no hope physically. 00:01:16.78\00:01:21.69 Things just are going downhill and not finding answers. 00:01:21.84\00:01:24.84 I would like to have a better outlook on life, 00:01:25.15\00:01:28.03 physically, spiritually, mentally, 00:01:28.27\00:01:32.81 and get back to normal life. 00:01:33.00\00:01:36.81 Hi friends, welcome back, 00:01:38.45\00:01:40.06 and in our studio, Del. 00:01:40.07\00:01:41.24 How are you, sir? - Fine. 00:01:41.60\00:01:43.03 Good to see you. - Good to be here. 00:01:43.15\00:01:44.69 You know, something is on my mind, 00:01:44.81\00:01:46.84 I just want to ask you, and perhaps the viewers 00:01:46.87\00:01:49.81 would like to know the answer. 00:01:49.82\00:01:51.33 You said there was a point where you didn't know 00:01:51.48\00:01:53.42 whether you were going to be here in a year. 00:01:53.48\00:01:55.15 What did that mean? 00:01:55.63\00:01:57.06 Well, that meant physically I was just in so much pain 00:01:58.42\00:02:01.78 I was to the point where I didn't feel a lot of the pain, 00:02:02.09\00:02:05.45 and it seemed as though my life was not going anywhere. 00:02:06.00\00:02:09.21 I was on disability, 00:02:09.36\00:02:10.69 couldn't do a job, had a family to take care of, 00:02:10.87\00:02:14.09 and I just felt that perhaps 00:02:14.45\00:02:18.63 not being here would be just as well as being here. 00:02:19.00\00:02:22.12 So I was just...not much hope. 00:02:22.21\00:02:24.69 - I didn't really see any hope 00:02:25.57\00:02:27.84 for things getting better physically. 00:02:27.85\00:02:29.75 And I saw that, and now I have to ask you, 00:02:30.24\00:02:34.63 Do you have hope? 00:02:35.33\00:02:36.51 Yeah. Yes, I do. 00:02:36.60\00:02:38.09 You have hope. - Mhmm. 00:02:38.15\00:02:39.66 - And why do you have hope now? 00:02:39.72\00:02:41.57 Well, being here at the NEWSTART, 00:02:42.57\00:02:45.66 I've gotten in touch with the circadian rhythms 00:02:47.36\00:02:50.21 and I'm getting up earlier, and going to bed earlier. 00:02:50.39\00:02:54.21 [laughter] 00:02:54.27\00:02:56.24 That helps a great deal. 00:02:56.45\00:02:57.63 - Isn't it amazing how that works? 00:02:57.64\00:02:58.78 You go to bed earlier, it makes you get up earlier. 00:02:58.79\00:03:00.81 - Mhmm, yeah. 00:03:00.84\00:03:01.87 But continue on with that, please. 00:03:02.00\00:03:03.30 Yeah. They keep us so busy here 00:03:03.36\00:03:06.09 walking around so much. 00:03:06.21\00:03:09.51 We have to do so much exercise 00:03:10.09\00:03:11.72 just to keep up with the program 00:03:11.73\00:03:13.54 that there's not really much time for rest in between. 00:03:14.75\00:03:19.12 [laughter] 00:03:19.30\00:03:20.63 But you do get to a point where you just... 00:03:20.75\00:03:22.84 sometimes I just skip my walks and 00:03:23.00\00:03:25.09 take a little...take a little 00:03:25.21\00:03:27.24 nap, a little relaxation. 00:03:27.33\00:03:29.36 So that helps. - Now you mentioned 00:03:29.57\00:03:30.66 exercise. What form of exercise? 00:03:30.78\00:03:33.72 Well, when I came here I was 00:03:34.21\00:03:37.42 only able to walk about a mile a day. 00:03:37.51\00:03:39.57 That's about all I could handle, 00:03:39.72\00:03:41.24 and that would wear me out. 00:03:41.39\00:03:42.66 And now with the nutrition and everything else 00:03:43.00\00:03:46.69 that's going on around here, I'm up to 5 miles a day 00:03:46.75\00:03:49.48 - Wow! - before I'm really 00:03:49.57\00:03:51.33 saying that's enough. - Congratulations! 00:03:51.51\00:03:53.84 And you had a treadmill yesterday, 00:03:54.66\00:03:57.30 did you not? - Yes, mhmm. 00:03:57.45\00:03:58.66 How did you fare on your treadmill test? 00:03:58.67\00:04:00.66 Tell us about that. 00:04:00.69\00:04:02.12 Well, I just came back from seeing Doctor DeRose, 00:04:02.66\00:04:06.27 and my treadmill has improved. 00:04:06.63\00:04:10.27 I have a little minor thing with my lower heart, 00:04:10.48\00:04:15.24 with the heartbeat, 00:04:15.30\00:04:16.33 but it's insignificant, so... 00:04:16.34\00:04:18.72 I'm good to exercise. 00:04:20.09\00:04:21.60 Get my heart rate up to the maximum, 180 beats per minute, 00:04:21.84\00:04:26.63 and just keep on going till I get tired. 00:04:26.75\00:04:29.33 180 beats per minute? You're going up that high? 00:04:29.51\00:04:32.63 Yeah, that was the maximum. 00:04:32.66\00:04:34.60 I used to be runner, so my heart's pretty strong. 00:04:34.61\00:04:37.69 - Oh that's right! Yeah... 00:04:37.87\00:04:39.24 So then, 5 miles is really not a big deal for you. 00:04:39.54\00:04:42.39 Well, it is, looking at the last year and a half. 00:04:42.66\00:04:46.54 It is to me, yeah. - Okay. 00:04:46.63\00:04:48.24 If I go back 20 years ago, yeah, 5 miles was... 00:04:48.27\00:04:51.27 Twenty years ago we could all go 5 miles easy! 00:04:51.42\00:04:54.09 Running, or whatever. 00:04:54.15\00:04:56.72 So what else has happened? 00:04:57.00\00:04:59.72 Your attitude seems to have changed here. 00:04:59.87\00:05:02.75 Tell me what is going on here. 00:05:03.45\00:05:06.15 Tell our audience, if you would - our viewers. 00:05:06.54\00:05:09.75 Well, we're just... 00:05:10.27\00:05:12.60 There's just so much of the presence of God here. 00:05:12.66\00:05:15.15 All the staff, everybody's just in tune 00:05:15.30\00:05:18.63 and walking with Jesus. 00:05:18.72\00:05:20.48 And it's just evident. 00:05:20.81\00:05:23.06 It just shows in everything they do-- 00:05:23.09\00:05:24.54 their helpfulness, what they say... 00:05:24.57\00:05:27.48 And we have the.... In the morning we have 00:05:27.69\00:05:31.54 the chaplain speaking with us, 00:05:31.81\00:05:33.84 and three lectures a day on health, 00:05:34.33\00:05:37.27 and there's always Bible verses included in all that. 00:05:37.60\00:05:41.51 And it's just... it builds your faith. 00:05:42.03\00:05:45.33 So then that way, it builds the rest of you, too. 00:05:45.57\00:05:49.72 So what did you think when you first... 00:05:50.69\00:05:53.60 Let me just say, when I first visited my doctor 00:05:54.03\00:05:57.24 and they asked if they could pray with me, 00:05:57.39\00:05:59.84 it really shocked me. 00:05:59.87\00:06:01.69 A doctor that wants to pray with me?! 00:06:01.72\00:06:04.84 You know, at that time I was not a Christian. 00:06:05.48\00:06:07.81 Of course I am now, but 00:06:08.00\00:06:10.27 tell me what you thought when 00:06:10.42\00:06:12.87 the first staff member asked you to pray with them, 00:06:13.30\00:06:15.78 or did they mind. 00:06:15.87\00:06:17.21 Yeah, that was great. 00:06:17.54\00:06:20.36 I'm always looking for people that want to pray with you. 00:06:20.69\00:06:23.54 That's a nice thing. That's a great thing. 00:06:23.69\00:06:26.42 And when they started doing that here, I said, 00:06:26.51\00:06:28.36 "Wow. Maybe this is just this one person doing this, 00:06:28.39\00:06:31.48 you know, and they won't do it again." 00:06:31.57\00:06:33.30 But no - every time you meet with somebody 00:06:33.45\00:06:35.45 they want to pray with you. 00:06:35.51\00:06:37.39 So you found this to be true... How about hydro? 00:06:37.60\00:06:40.45 Did they pray with you at hydro? - Oh yeah. 00:06:40.54\00:06:42.69 The hydro and massage therapy, that was great. 00:06:42.78\00:06:46.18 That's really done a lot for me physically. 00:06:46.19\00:06:48.27 And Jerry, when he'd start to work on me he would 00:06:48.60\00:06:51.72 stop and place his hands on me and he'd have a word of prayer 00:06:51.84\00:06:54.75 that God would direct his hands to where they needed to go 00:06:54.81\00:06:57.87 and fix the problem. 00:06:58.03\00:06:59.33 And it works. 00:06:59.63\00:07:01.33 So what I'm hearing you say then, 00:07:01.66\00:07:04.45 that all these visits with various staff members 00:07:04.48\00:07:08.06 from the cooking school - Sally Christensen, 00:07:08.12\00:07:11.12 to Doctor DeRose, to Jerry Flores, 00:07:11.24\00:07:13.48 to the many people that you've met here, 00:07:13.72\00:07:15.69 that your hope has been built from there, 00:07:16.09\00:07:19.00 and now you have a trust in the Lord 00:07:19.03\00:07:21.30 that's going to take care of you. 00:07:21.36\00:07:22.72 - Yes. I wish I'd have said that. 00:07:23.09\00:07:25.57 [laughter] I did say that! 00:07:25.69\00:07:28.03 No, that's... You know, that is so 00:07:28.21\00:07:30.60 profound. I'm so... I feel so blessed 00:07:31.21\00:07:34.39 to hear you speak those words. 00:07:34.72\00:07:37.00 Because you know, whether you realize it or not, 00:07:37.30\00:07:40.18 there's people viewing this 00:07:40.27\00:07:41.81 that are going, "Oh, I just needed to hear 00:07:42.18\00:07:44.72 that God is alive and well." 00:07:44.81\00:07:46.42 You know, for those folks, 00:07:46.57\00:07:48.09 and our staff members who are going, 00:07:48.18\00:07:50.12 "Yes! What inspiration," 00:07:50.30\00:07:52.30 because, that's the icing on the cake-- 00:07:52.54\00:07:54.87 your testimony. 00:07:55.09\00:07:56.57 - Yeah. Good. 00:07:56.58\00:07:57.66 And I want to hear more of it, 00:07:57.72\00:07:58.84 So please, go on. What else now? 00:07:58.87\00:08:00.87 Well, I lay in bed for 12 hours plus a day, 00:08:03.18\00:08:07.24 and just didn't have the get-up-and-go. 00:08:09.00\00:08:13.00 And with the nutrition and the exercise, 00:08:14.45\00:08:18.63 I'm getting up at 5 am, going to bed at 10 pm. 00:08:18.78\00:08:23.63 And my energy is starting to come up, 00:08:24.06\00:08:27.24 and it's a long process, 00:08:27.33\00:08:30.18 but I think I'm good enough now to have cataract extraction 00:08:30.30\00:08:34.18 and get my vision hopefully, Lord willing, 00:08:34.48\00:08:37.06 back to where it... close to where it was before, 00:08:37.09\00:08:40.09 and continue on with life. 00:08:40.72\00:08:43.30 Well, there's much more I could say, 00:08:48.24\00:08:49.69 but I can't quite think of it right now. 00:08:49.72\00:08:51.39 [laughter] - Okay. 00:08:51.45\00:08:53.51 Any time you feel, just butt right in there. 00:08:54.24\00:08:57.30 Okay, so Doctor DeRose has given you the "go" sign 00:08:57.57\00:09:01.84 to get back home. 00:09:02.03\00:09:03.84 Are you going to be the cook there, 00:09:04.03\00:09:05.39 or what's going to happen when you get back home? 00:09:05.40\00:09:07.33 Well, that's a good point. 00:09:07.42\00:09:09.30 I brought my daughter with me, 00:09:09.45\00:09:11.06 and we have a 1-1/2 year old at home, 00:09:11.12\00:09:13.36 so my wife stayed home, my daughter came with me. 00:09:13.48\00:09:16.03 So when we get back home, 00:09:16.27\00:09:17.36 between my daughter and my wife and I, 00:09:17.37\00:09:18.87 we'll figure out what we're going to do. 00:09:19.21\00:09:22.03 And it's going to be as close to 00:09:22.30\00:09:24.12 what we have learned here as possible. 00:09:24.13\00:09:27.09 So, is your wife vegan at this point, 00:09:27.12\00:09:28.69 or vegetarian? 00:09:28.70\00:09:29.78 No, in the summertime we've raised turkeys and chickens, 00:09:29.81\00:09:33.81 for food, and eat that, 00:09:34.12\00:09:36.69 but I've been slowing down the past couple months anyway, so... 00:09:36.84\00:09:40.18 this was no big shock to my system coming here, 00:09:40.42\00:09:43.57 and I think when we get back home 00:09:43.63\00:09:45.27 we'll pretty much follow the diet that we've learned here, 00:09:45.36\00:09:49.18 because it's helping better than anything else so far. 00:09:49.24\00:09:52.54 - Wonderful. 00:09:53.27\00:09:54.36 Is there any last... We have a few seconds left. 00:09:54.42\00:09:56.54 Any last comment you want to make? 00:09:56.63\00:09:58.66 Well, the staff here is just great. 00:10:00.30\00:10:02.78 And I gotta say that 00:10:03.21\00:10:05.15 I think this is about as close to heaven 00:10:05.24\00:10:07.66 as you're going to get on earth. 00:10:07.67\00:10:09.60 without Jesus actually being here in person. 00:10:09.75\00:10:12.00 - Amen. - It's just great. 00:10:12.03\00:10:13.69 Del, thank you so much for coming in the studio here. 00:10:13.75\00:10:16.87 - And folks, don't go away, 00:10:17.03\00:10:18.27 because Doctor DeRose will be here in just a second. 00:10:18.33\00:10:21.24 Well, you've done very well. 00:10:22.63\00:10:24.36 Do you have diabetes, 00:10:30.69\00:10:32.06 heart disease, high blood pressure, 00:10:32.07\00:10:34.15 or do you weigh too much? 00:10:34.60\00:10:36.00 Hi, my name is Dr. Ing, and I'd like to tell you 00:10:36.78\00:10:39.57 about our 18-day NEWSTART lifestyle program. 00:10:39.58\00:10:42.54 It includes a comprehensive medical evaluation 00:10:43.27\00:10:46.00 with laboratory studies and an exercise stress test, 00:10:46.01\00:10:49.30 physician consultations, 00:10:49.75\00:10:51.48 culinary school, 00:10:52.21\00:10:53.39 and an opportunity to walk on beautiful trails 00:10:53.84\00:10:56.78 in the foothills of the Sierras. 00:10:56.79\00:10:58.78 Your health is one of the most 00:11:00.84\00:11:02.36 important things that you have. Don't wait. 00:11:02.37\00:11:04.39 Give us a call at: 00:11:04.84\00:11:06.57 Or visit our website: 00:11:09.63\00:11:10.87 Welcome back, friends, 00:11:28.66\00:11:29.75 and in our studio, Dr. David DeRose. 00:11:29.76\00:11:32.00 How are you, Doctor? - Very good, Ron. 00:11:32.06\00:11:33.75 Doctor, I just have to say this, 00:11:34.00\00:11:36.00 that we do serve a God of hope. 00:11:36.24\00:11:38.30 Oh, amazing. An amazing God of hope. 00:11:38.45\00:11:40.51 I mean, you hear a story like Del's, and 00:11:40.60\00:11:43.30 to be honest with you, even as his physician, 00:11:43.45\00:11:45.78 I didn't realize how bleak 00:11:45.79\00:11:47.57 things were when he first arrived. 00:11:47.58\00:11:49.75 I saw it... I've sensed it because 00:11:49.84\00:11:52.75 I was there at one time in my life. 00:11:52.76\00:11:55.18 And I saw...and particularly when he said, 00:11:55.57\00:11:57.87 "You know, I didn't know if I was going to be here, 00:11:58.00\00:11:59.57 whether I even wanted to be here." 00:11:59.58\00:12:01.48 I don't think those were his exact words, 00:12:01.60\00:12:04.15 but now we see a different guy. 00:12:04.36\00:12:06.15 Definitely. I mean, it's a common phenomenon for people. 00:12:06.21\00:12:09.03 If they have any kind of chronic condition, 00:12:09.06\00:12:11.12 chronic health problems, 00:12:11.15\00:12:12.69 you start to wonder, I mean, 00:12:12.72\00:12:14.21 "Am I ever going to feel well again?" 00:12:14.27\00:12:16.15 And you can understand why someone would say, 00:12:16.24\00:12:19.21 "Do I want to be around?" and 00:12:19.30\00:12:21.24 you know, "Or is this the end for me?" 00:12:21.25\00:12:22.72 - Yeah. 00:12:22.81\00:12:23.87 And so, that seems to be... 00:12:24.03\00:12:26.57 is it fair to say, then, that 00:12:26.72\00:12:29.24 people who are sick and tired 00:12:29.30\00:12:33.30 enter into a state of depression? 00:12:33.51\00:12:35.48 Is this common? 00:12:35.54\00:12:36.60 It's very common. We call it a reactive depression. 00:12:36.61\00:12:39.27 The garden variety depression, if you will, 00:12:39.39\00:12:42.81 is what we call an endogenous depression. 00:12:42.87\00:12:44.81 That means it just kind of comes up on its own, 00:12:44.82\00:12:47.21 but many people are depressed for reasons. 00:12:47.39\00:12:50.69 Technically we call that a reactive depression. 00:12:50.81\00:12:54.03 The body's reacting to something, 00:12:54.06\00:12:55.45 whether it's a loss of a spouse, 00:12:55.48\00:12:58.15 whether it's the loss of a job, 00:12:58.18\00:12:59.75 whether it's the loss of finances. 00:12:59.87\00:13:01.30 Usually some kind of a loss. 00:13:01.31\00:13:02.57 Whether it's the loss of health, our human response 00:13:02.60\00:13:06.45 is typically to be depressed, 00:13:06.51\00:13:08.39 to be down about it. 00:13:08.42\00:13:09.66 Unless, with the Lord's help, or for some other reason, 00:13:09.67\00:13:14.39 we focus our mind above the loss. 00:13:14.42\00:13:17.42 I have to ask this because 00:13:18.87\00:13:21.18 I remember a runner by the name of Fisk 00:13:21.33\00:13:24.21 who died of a heart attack. 00:13:24.45\00:13:26.33 Oh, Jim Fixx, yeah. - Oh, it's Fixx. 00:13:26.39\00:13:28.87 And, yes, that was the runner. 00:13:29.06\00:13:30.87 And I know that this gentleman used to be a runner. 00:13:31.15\00:13:34.48 Did that have anything to do with his 00:13:34.51\00:13:37.39 recuperating from this, or can anybody expect 00:13:37.66\00:13:41.12 to get well by being here? 00:13:41.27\00:13:43.30 Well, I mean, the Jim Fixx story is an interesting one. 00:13:43.48\00:13:47.27 I actually heard one of the doctors who knew Jim 00:13:47.30\00:13:50.81 speak at a conference. 00:13:51.03\00:13:53.33 He had encouraged Jim to get his heart checked. 00:13:53.42\00:13:56.21 Apparently he was having some heart symptoms. 00:13:56.27\00:13:58.27 But Fixx, who I believe was a physician himself, 00:13:58.33\00:14:02.78 felt that all his running was protecting his heart. 00:14:03.03\00:14:06.30 And he actually, you know, overdid it apparently one day, 00:14:06.48\00:14:10.48 and died. 00:14:10.51\00:14:11.75 So, exercise is something... 00:14:11.84\00:14:15.12 I share that illustration, 00:14:15.15\00:14:17.12 we're talking about someone, and 00:14:17.15\00:14:18.48 the first response that many people have, 00:14:18.66\00:14:20.42 "Well if you can die exercising, I'm not gonna die." 00:14:20.45\00:14:24.15 Or the other response, and I've heard this story too before, 00:14:24.30\00:14:27.24 where people... 00:14:27.27\00:14:28.33 I remember the story of one gentleman who 00:14:28.54\00:14:30.78 was so depressed he decided he was going to kill himself. 00:14:30.84\00:14:33.75 And he didn't want it to look like a suicide, 00:14:34.06\00:14:36.42 so he'd heard that people can die exercising, 00:14:36.43\00:14:39.00 so he started running as hard as he could. 00:14:39.15\00:14:41.63 And the interesting thing was, 00:14:41.78\00:14:44.06 he didn't drop dead with a heart attack, 00:14:44.07\00:14:46.66 but the exercise improved his mood! 00:14:46.81\00:14:49.24 - Isn't that interesting! 00:14:49.33\00:14:50.63 - And he overcame his depression. 00:14:50.66\00:14:51.84 So exercise is a powerful, mood-stabilizing activity. 00:14:52.00\00:14:57.48 If you're down, it tends to raise your mood, 00:14:57.57\00:15:00.33 If you're very anxious or hyper, 00:15:00.39\00:15:02.12 exercise tends to help tone you down. 00:15:02.13\00:15:04.03 So it's clearly a part of the equation. 00:15:04.12\00:15:05.66 But it's not the whole part of the equation because 00:15:05.69\00:15:08.48 if you do have a heart condition or something, 00:15:08.49\00:15:10.36 it can be problems. 00:15:10.39\00:15:11.39 And that's why when people come here 00:15:11.40\00:15:13.06 to the NEWSTART program, 00:15:13.07\00:15:14.27 the second day they're here 00:15:14.28\00:15:16.00 we have them on the treadmill 00:15:16.15\00:15:18.33 making sure that exercise is safe for them. 00:15:18.36\00:15:21.48 Or if it's dangerous, we restrict their exercise. 00:15:21.54\00:15:24.75 For example, if I have a patient 00:15:24.84\00:15:27.15 and we're exercising them and I start to see 00:15:27.30\00:15:29.45 changes on their EKG, 00:15:29.46\00:15:31.39 I will either stop the test or 00:15:31.57\00:15:33.60 after we finish the test instruct the person, 00:15:33.78\00:15:36.15 "Look at...." Show them their test, say, 00:15:36.16\00:15:38.12 "You started showing changes 00:15:38.13\00:15:39.87 when your heart rate got to be 120. 00:15:40.00\00:15:41.84 I want you to keep your heart rate below 120, 00:15:42.00\00:15:44.45 because it's potentially dangerous to go above that. 00:15:44.48\00:15:47.48 So we try to cover that. 00:15:47.49\00:15:49.06 when we have people come here to the NEWSTART program. 00:15:49.18\00:15:51.66 Now I know that the day before the treadmill test 00:15:52.30\00:15:55.57 you do a blood draw, as well. 00:15:55.81\00:15:57.78 Is that correct? - That's right, that's right. 00:15:57.84\00:15:59.48 And then you visit our guests 00:15:59.54\00:16:03.00 the first day they're here, is that correct? 00:16:03.15\00:16:05.06 That's right. The first full day they're here 00:16:05.12\00:16:06.72 --they arrive on a Sunday, that's a partial day. 00:16:06.73\00:16:09.42 They're getting in, they get some orientation. 00:16:09.45\00:16:11.36 First full day, Monday morning, 00:16:11.39\00:16:13.45 we do some baseline blood work, 00:16:13.63\00:16:15.57 just see where they stand. 00:16:15.58\00:16:17.00 We do a nice, fairly complete panel 00:16:17.15\00:16:19.69 that looks at everything from the thyroid 00:16:19.70\00:16:21.54 to the kidneys, to the liver, 00:16:21.55\00:16:22.72 cholesterol, blood sugar, 00:16:22.73\00:16:24.63 complete blood count, urine assessment. 00:16:24.75\00:16:27.30 And then, we actually that same day, 00:16:27.48\00:16:30.15 a little bit later, we see them in the medical clinic. 00:16:30.16\00:16:32.54 There's three of us physicians here. 00:16:32.55\00:16:34.24 Each one has their own personal physician. 00:16:34.39\00:16:36.84 We go over their medical history, 00:16:37.06\00:16:39.09 do an exam. 00:16:39.12\00:16:40.30 And then the next day we're doing the stress test 00:16:40.31\00:16:44.03 and working with them throughout the program. 00:16:44.33\00:16:46.87 Now of course if someone has recently had a stress test 00:16:47.15\00:16:50.21 or there's some reason not to do that, 00:16:50.24\00:16:51.78 it's all individualized. - Yes. 00:16:51.79\00:16:53.30 And so we're not just putting people onto some assembly line 00:16:53.42\00:16:57.63 and then they all have to have, you know, such and such done. 00:16:57.66\00:17:00.51 But we find that there's some things that can 00:17:00.66\00:17:03.21 really streamline the program, 00:17:03.24\00:17:04.63 give us a lot of information that 00:17:04.69\00:17:07.03 we give back then to the patient. 00:17:07.04\00:17:08.63 This is not kind of a black box program 00:17:08.72\00:17:11.06 where we get information, we don't tell the patient, 00:17:11.15\00:17:13.27 we just say, you know, "Take this pill, 00:17:13.28\00:17:14.69 do this, do that." It's an educational program. 00:17:14.70\00:17:17.12 - Right. 00:17:17.24\00:17:18.66 You know, I understand that there's approximately 00:17:18.67\00:17:21.87 five or six visits in those two weeks 00:17:22.09\00:17:25.27 that the guests are here. Is that correct? 00:17:25.28\00:17:27.21 Typically we're seeing them at least 6 times. 00:17:27.22\00:17:29.30 - Six times. Over the course of the 3 weeks. 00:17:29.31\00:17:30.72 Now I have to tell you this. 00:17:30.73\00:17:32.06 I thought it was just a great benefit 00:17:32.09\00:17:34.03 that I could eat breakfast with my doctor 00:17:34.12\00:17:36.66 and lunch, 00:17:37.06\00:17:38.33 and of course they talked me out of eating dinner, 00:17:38.34\00:17:40.15 because I could lose weight faster. 00:17:40.16\00:17:41.78 But that is so inspirational 00:17:42.06\00:17:44.06 to see the doctor right there 00:17:44.15\00:17:45.72 eating the same food, 00:17:45.87\00:17:47.60 and you could ask him questions. 00:17:47.78\00:17:49.51 I think that was exciting for me. 00:17:49.57\00:17:51.24 Yeah, there's a lot of social interaction with the staff here. 00:17:51.39\00:17:54.57 Different staff members are there for different meals. 00:17:54.69\00:17:58.15 Some of the doctors are frequent features there 00:17:58.39\00:18:02.03 at the mealtime. 00:18:02.04\00:18:03.15 And sometimes the patients joke, 00:18:03.21\00:18:06.06 "Well, you know, it's hard to not follow a good diet 00:18:06.07\00:18:09.21 when your doctor is watching you." 00:18:09.27\00:18:10.72 [laughter] 00:18:10.81\00:18:12.63 But really, it's more of a family atmosphere 00:18:12.64\00:18:16.69 where we're interacting with you 00:18:16.78\00:18:19.03 in a variety of settings as a team. 00:18:19.06\00:18:21.15 Now I want to get back to Delray who had this problem 00:18:21.54\00:18:26.39 with his eye, and I assume that's corrected 00:18:26.51\00:18:29.45 and now he's going to have cataract surgery. 00:18:29.46\00:18:32.06 What else, aside from the depression, 00:18:33.03\00:18:35.60 was he dealing with that you were able to help him with? 00:18:35.78\00:18:38.48 Well, I mean, I think you caught 00:18:38.69\00:18:40.63 from Del, you know, from his perspective, 00:18:40.66\00:18:42.78 the fact that he came here, like you said, 00:18:42.87\00:18:45.39 quite depressed, 00:18:45.48\00:18:47.42 he had a number of health concerns, 00:18:47.43\00:18:49.27 and you mentioned the vision-- that was a huge thing. 00:18:49.30\00:18:52.27 But just put yourself in the position of someone like Del 00:18:52.60\00:18:56.24 who had a detached retina. 00:18:56.33\00:18:57.57 What they do is they often put a bubble in the eye, 00:18:57.58\00:19:01.00 and that's why they have to lay on their stomachs 00:19:01.15\00:19:03.63 so that bubble rises with gravity 00:19:03.66\00:19:06.78 and keeps the retina pushed up against the back of the eye. 00:19:06.84\00:19:10.45 The retina is kind of the back membrane, if you will, 00:19:10.46\00:19:13.18 the visual membrane in the back of the eye. 00:19:13.27\00:19:16.27 He was laying face down for two months, he said! 00:19:16.28\00:19:18.84 Yeah, it's a very difficult thing, 00:19:19.00\00:19:21.21 and you can just imagine what that does 00:19:21.24\00:19:23.72 to your energy level, your strength. 00:19:23.75\00:19:25.87 One of the most efficient ways 00:19:26.00\00:19:27.78 to rob you of strength and mobility 00:19:27.87\00:19:29.81 is to put you at bed rest. 00:19:30.06\00:19:31.51 And so you can just imagine what anyone goes through 00:19:31.84\00:19:34.69 who deals with a detached retina. 00:19:34.72\00:19:36.36 So when Del shared with you 00:19:36.45\00:19:37.81 that he was only able to walk a mile 00:19:37.87\00:19:40.18 before getting very fatigued, 00:19:40.27\00:19:42.03 for someone who had been as he indicated, 00:19:42.21\00:19:45.06 highly fit before, 00:19:45.12\00:19:46.60 this was, you know, a dramatic decrease. 00:19:46.75\00:19:50.48 in his mobility, in his functioning, 00:19:50.66\00:19:52.57 in his energy level. 00:19:52.60\00:19:54.00 And when you have that kind of a change, 00:19:54.01\00:19:56.12 that really puts a toll on a person. 00:19:56.18\00:19:58.39 We see such a blessing in him now. 00:19:58.66\00:20:01.15 I was so inspired and so grateful I should say, 00:20:01.33\00:20:04.42 to see him feeling better 00:20:04.69\00:20:07.27 and knowing he had this hope 00:20:07.28\00:20:09.06 and he could move forward. 00:20:09.21\00:20:11.57 Will you be staying in touch with him 00:20:11.69\00:20:14.30 and your other patients that you're seeing? 00:20:14.45\00:20:16.72 One of the things we do is 00:20:16.75\00:20:18.00 it's basically kind of an open phone line, if you will. 00:20:18.06\00:20:20.48 All our patients leave with our contact information 00:20:20.66\00:20:23.57 And we don't force ourselves on anyone 00:20:23.69\00:20:26.33 who comes through the program. 00:20:26.34\00:20:27.39 If they had enough of me after three weeks, 00:20:27.45\00:20:29.66 you know, I'm not going to 00:20:29.72\00:20:30.72 harass them for the rest of their life. 00:20:30.73\00:20:32.60 But the point is, 00:20:32.69\00:20:34.15 I just had someone call me who 00:20:34.21\00:20:36.03 left the program a few weeks ago. 00:20:36.04\00:20:37.78 They had questions. 00:20:37.81\00:20:39.15 Someone the other day from a program several months ago... 00:20:39.21\00:20:42.36 So basically, whether we're calling, 00:20:42.48\00:20:45.12 checking up on someone, 00:20:45.21\00:20:46.30 whether they're taking the initiative, 00:20:46.31\00:20:48.09 some real close contact. 00:20:48.12\00:20:49.45 You're part of the Weimar family 00:20:49.48\00:20:51.12 when you go through the NEWSTART program. 00:20:51.15\00:20:52.66 If you don't want to hear from us, 00:20:52.72\00:20:54.03 we respect that, 00:20:54.04\00:20:55.09 but we want to be available 00:20:55.18\00:20:57.30 if you have needs when you're back home. 00:20:57.42\00:20:59.12 And I thought that was a tremendous benefit for me 00:20:59.51\00:21:01.84 that I could call Dr. Michael Orlich, 00:21:01.87\00:21:04.51 which was my doctor, 00:21:04.54\00:21:05.72 and I could call him any time of day or night. 00:21:05.75\00:21:08.15 And I want to thank you for that, 00:21:08.39\00:21:11.66 and thank you for being here, 00:21:11.75\00:21:13.12 and thank you for being on our show. 00:21:13.21\00:21:14.54 - Oh, it's a tremendous blessing and privilege. 00:21:14.57\00:21:16.66 It's always good to see you. 00:21:16.75\00:21:17.78 Thanks so much. - Yeah. 00:21:17.81\00:21:19.21 And folks, that's it for right now, 00:21:19.22\00:21:21.57 but don't go away. 00:21:21.63\00:21:22.72 We have an important message right after this. 00:21:22.81\00:21:25.48 Welcome to NEWSTART at Home. 00:21:40.21\00:21:41.75 I'm Dr. David DeRose, your host today, 00:21:41.78\00:21:44.24 and we're going to be looking at a fascinating topic. 00:21:44.36\00:21:46.54 To help us do that is Hildelisa Flickenger. 00:21:46.55\00:21:49.78 Hildelisa, it's wonderful to have you with us today. 00:21:49.79\00:21:52.15 Nice to be here. 00:21:52.24\00:21:53.30 For some of our viewers, they may not have met you. 00:21:53.33\00:21:56.09 You've got some very impressive credentials when it comes to 00:21:56.24\00:21:59.03 the subjects of nutrition. 00:21:59.04\00:22:01.00 You have a masters of science in nutrition, 00:22:01.03\00:22:02.78 is that correct? - I do. 00:22:02.79\00:22:04.24 - You're also a registered dietician, 00:22:04.25\00:22:06.48 you've worked with very difficult clinical patients, 00:22:06.72\00:22:09.84 some of the most difficult in the hospital, 00:22:10.33\00:22:12.03 dealing with things like what we call parenteral nutrition. 00:22:12.06\00:22:14.78 What is just parenteral nutrition, 00:22:15.12\00:22:17.36 for those who aren't in the know? 00:22:17.37\00:22:18.87 Parenteral nutrition is a specialty 00:22:19.09\00:22:21.66 within the field of dietetics or nutrition 00:22:21.67\00:22:24.15 that deals with the critically ill, 00:22:24.27\00:22:26.09 often patients that are in the ICU, 00:22:26.24\00:22:28.63 and basically gives them nutrition through an IV. 00:22:28.64\00:22:31.84 Okay, so you've dealt with this very high-tech science, 00:22:32.12\00:22:35.42 you've been in the intensive care units, the ICUs, 00:22:35.43\00:22:38.21 and yet you have a special interest in helping 00:22:38.36\00:22:41.48 people in every walk of life 00:22:41.69\00:22:43.69 really have better health. Isn't that right? 00:22:43.72\00:22:45.33 Definitely, and we do need that. 00:22:45.36\00:22:47.30 And Hildelisa, you have some 00:22:47.51\00:22:49.27 interesting roles here on the Weimar campus. 00:22:49.28\00:22:51.87 Tell our viewers a little bit about 00:22:52.03\00:22:53.51 what you're involved with currently. 00:22:53.52\00:22:55.09 I'm one of the instructors for 00:22:55.27\00:22:57.24 the Amazing Facts Center of Evangelism. 00:22:57.25\00:23:00.60 I'm one of the health instructors there. 00:23:00.63\00:23:02.57 Tremendous. I know a lot of 00:23:02.69\00:23:03.72 exciting things are happening there. 00:23:03.73\00:23:05.12 Young people, people of all ages, 00:23:05.18\00:23:07.54 getting energized about how health 00:23:07.55\00:23:09.27 can make a difference in 00:23:09.36\00:23:10.42 ministering to their communities. 00:23:10.43\00:23:12.03 And today we want to look at a 00:23:12.09\00:23:13.33 very important health topic, don't we? 00:23:13.34\00:23:14.81 - Definitely. 00:23:15.00\00:23:16.00 We're going to look at 00:23:16.01\00:23:17.66 a little bit about the obesity crisis in America. 00:23:17.72\00:23:21.09 And we know that we also have 00:23:21.18\00:23:23.12 a crisis in the diet-related diseases, 00:23:23.21\00:23:26.84 such as diabetes, and hypertension, and cancer. 00:23:27.12\00:23:31.12 So Hildelisa, when we speak about overweight and obesity, 00:23:31.78\00:23:35.36 most people don't like the term "obesity," but 00:23:35.51\00:23:39.00 many people, whether they meet the medical definition of 00:23:39.15\00:23:42.12 being obese, or whether they just know 00:23:42.15\00:23:44.27 they've got to trim down, 00:23:44.30\00:23:45.84 the same issues are really relevant, 00:23:46.15\00:23:48.81 aren't they, as far as just losing some pounds? 00:23:48.82\00:23:51.24 Definitely. 00:23:51.27\00:23:52.45 Now, you know, I meet a lot of people that are ready 00:23:52.51\00:23:55.18 to make changes, especially in their diet habits. 00:23:55.21\00:23:58.15 And the federal government has issued different models 00:23:58.30\00:24:02.12 to guide the American public as to 00:24:02.15\00:24:04.66 what a healthy diet should be. 00:24:04.81\00:24:06.57 And we've all seen the food guide pyramids, of course. 00:24:06.69\00:24:10.78 And actually, the first food pyramid 00:24:11.12\00:24:13.78 was issued about two decades ago. 00:24:14.09\00:24:16.60 - But it's interesting to know that since then, 00:24:17.21\00:24:19.66 diabetes and obesity are commonplace. 00:24:19.78\00:24:23.48 And just a couple of impressive statistics, 00:24:23.60\00:24:26.33 27 percent of young adults 00:24:26.45\00:24:29.42 are too overweight to qualify for military service. 00:24:29.57\00:24:32.57 - Twenty-seven percent? Twenty-seven. 00:24:32.60\00:24:34.66 And 1 in 3 children born in 2000 will develop diabetes. 00:24:34.67\00:24:40.42 Wow. So we got a huge problem. 00:24:40.51\00:24:42.54 The food pyramid hasn't solved it. 00:24:42.57\00:24:44.24 Is there a better way of planning our nutrition 00:24:44.25\00:24:47.72 beside using the food pyramid? 00:24:47.78\00:24:49.57 Yes, there is a better way. 00:24:49.75\00:24:51.66 Now, the good thing about the food pyramid is that 00:24:51.69\00:24:54.06 it does tell people to eat more fruits and vegetables. 00:24:54.09\00:24:58.09 However, it does recommend that they eat 00:24:58.24\00:25:01.66 two to three servings each from the meat group 00:25:01.78\00:25:04.54 and the dairy products. 00:25:04.63\00:25:06.24 And that's in spite of studies that show that 00:25:06.30\00:25:09.21 these foods increase risk for chronic disease 00:25:09.27\00:25:12.18 and increase obesity. 00:25:12.24\00:25:13.66 So you're saying that the meat and the dairy products 00:25:13.81\00:25:16.24 are not good things if we're trying to lose weight? 00:25:16.25\00:25:18.63 Definitely not. 00:25:19.00\00:25:20.39 Now just some interesting facts. 00:25:20.42\00:25:22.18 Do you know that the average American eats 00:25:22.21\00:25:24.42 more than 215 pounds of meat a year? 00:25:24.48\00:25:28.75 And that's up from 144 pounds in 1950. 00:25:29.09\00:25:33.36 215 pounds, the average American. 00:25:33.48\00:25:36.15 Now Hildelisa, I'm going to be honest with you, 00:25:36.18\00:25:38.21 I'm a vegetarian. 00:25:38.33\00:25:39.81 - So there's going to be someone else 00:25:40.54\00:25:41.72 who's eating those 215 pounds that they attribute to me. 00:25:41.73\00:25:44.57 - That's right. 00:25:44.58\00:25:46.18 So something is maybe a bit confusing 00:25:46.21\00:25:49.06 about this food pyramid, 00:25:49.09\00:25:50.48 and it recommends foods that are unhealthful 00:25:50.60\00:25:53.75 and unnecessary. 00:25:53.81\00:25:55.36 But fortunately, like you said, there is an option out there, 00:25:55.48\00:25:59.36 and it's called the Power Plate. 00:25:59.48\00:26:02.54 And it basically... It's put out by the 00:26:02.84\00:26:04.81 Physicians' Committee for Responsible Medicine, 00:26:04.87\00:26:07.54 and it has recommendations based on research 00:26:07.66\00:26:12.03 that shows that plant-based foods 00:26:12.06\00:26:14.18 are the most nutritious, and protect against diseases. 00:26:14.30\00:26:18.27 - This is tremendous. So really, we want to be eating 00:26:18.28\00:26:20.27 more of those fruits, grains, legumes, 00:26:20.28\00:26:23.09 the bean family, and vegetables. 00:26:23.10\00:26:24.48 This is powerful stuff, Hildelisa. 00:26:24.60\00:26:26.45 I hope you've enjoyed this brief look at nutrition, 00:26:26.57\00:26:30.15 how you can, by choosing more plant foods, 00:26:30.16\00:26:32.54 make a difference in your weight. 00:26:32.66\00:26:34.18 If you want more information, you can go to our 00:26:34.27\00:26:37.03 NEWSTART Lifestyle Club. 00:26:37.18\00:26:39.03 Simply: 00:26:39.04\00:26:40.03 for that additional information. 00:26:41.81\00:26:43.75 Modern views of evolution stem all the way back 00:26:52.15\00:26:54.66 to theories developed in the mid-1800s. 00:26:54.69\00:26:57.18 Out of the same time period came ideas that shape 00:26:57.75\00:27:01.15 our educational system today. 00:27:01.18\00:27:03.33 The Common School Movement, for example, 00:27:03.87\00:27:06.24 saw schools more like a factory, 00:27:06.60\00:27:08.51 with students blindly memorizing instruction 00:27:08.52\00:27:11.27 rather than thinking for themselves. 00:27:11.30\00:27:13.27 Their curriculum was rigid and theoretical. 00:27:13.72\00:27:16.27 Instead of being flexible and practical, 00:27:16.28\00:27:19.12 it was designed to conform the individual 00:27:19.27\00:27:21.66 into a specific ideological mold 00:27:21.75\00:27:24.30 that fit the needs of an old industrial era 00:27:24.54\00:27:27.09 long since passed. 00:27:27.10\00:27:28.48 Just like our view of creation in six literal days, 00:27:29.75\00:27:33.09 we believe the Bible contains an educational blueprint 00:27:33.18\00:27:37.18 radically different from the one we see now. 00:27:37.45\00:27:39.81 Well friends, that's it for today. 00:27:52.84\00:27:54.39 Pick up that phone and give us a call at: 00:27:54.42\00:27:56.12 Have a great day. 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