Participants: Ron Giannoni (Host), Una Bourne
Series Code: NSN
Program Code: NSN000052
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00:23 Hi friends, and welcome to another edition of NEWSTART NOW.
00:27 In our studio today, we have Una Bourne. 00:31 Una came to us two weeks ago with some problems, 00:35 and I'd like to watch a clip of when she first arrived. 00:39 In November of last year, 00:41 I had an illness that prevented me from walking, 00:44 I couldn't walk at all, 00:46 and it affected my arms, 00:48 and most of the muscles, they were all weak. 00:51 And the Doctors were not sure what was wrong with me. 00:55 So while I was home recuperating, 00:58 I was watching television and I saw the NEWSTART program 01:03 on 3ABN, introducing Weimar. 01:06 So my husband suggested that I come here. 01:08 Well I've had a thyroid condition, 01:11 it was hyper, 01:13 and the doctor gave me a little bit too 01:15 much radioactive iodine and made it hypo, 01:18 so I have that condition. 01:20 Plus I am hyper-tensive, and I'm a little bit overweight. 01:24 I want to see my legs improve. 01:28 I want to be able to walk as I used to walk. 01:31 I want to regain the functions in my arms, 01:34 and I want my blood pressure to be in control, 01:38 and... lose some weight. 01:43 Welcome back friends, and in our studio is Una. 01:47 How are you Una? - I'm fine thank you. 01:49 You know when I watched that clip I saw when 01:51 you arrived here, you want a lot of things! 01:54 - Yes. 01:55 Tell me, what has happened to you since you've been here? 01:59 Well since I've been here, I have lost some weight, 02:03 not as much as I would like to, but I have lost some. 02:05 I have gained strength in my legs. 02:08 I'm now able to walk between five and six miles. 02:11 Oh! Now that's significant because 02:14 last year you couldn't walk at all. 02:16 No, I couldn't walk. 02:18 In November I couldn't walk at all. 02:19 In November you couldn't walk. - No. 02:22 And this is the first of March, 02:25 and so... what do you attribute this to? 02:30 I attribute it too... 02:32 good care, 02:33 and the program that is here, the NEWSTART program. 02:36 They emphasize exercise, good nutrition, 02:40 sunlight, 02:42 and I have been taking advantage of the program. 02:46 Now you're on medications? 02:48 Yes, I'm on medication. 02:50 Are you on the same amount of 02:51 medications as you were when you came? 02:53 No, I have not been taking some medication 02:56 because my condition has improved. 02:59 As a matter of fact my 03:01 cholesterol has gone down, 03:04 my blood pressure is really stable, 03:06 really really stable! 03:08 Are you taking blood pressure meds? 03:09 I was. 03:11 But no more. - No. 03:12 And your blood pressure is normal? 03:13 My blood pressure is good, yes. 03:15 Without medication? - Yes. 03:17 But it has to be monitored carefully. 03:19 Yes, or course. Yes. 03:21 And tell us more, have you 03:23 eliminated any other medications? 03:25 No I was not on a lot of medication, 03:28 because my condition, they did not know what was wrong with me, 03:31 so I was not receiving any medication for my illness. 03:36 And actually the doctor tells me that I need to, when I go home, 03:40 see my physician, 03:42 because I may not need to be taking my thyroid medication. 03:45 Oh really? 03:46 Yes, the thyroid levels, 03:48 the blood work that they did here, 03:50 it has shown great improvement. 03:52 Oh wonderful. 03:54 Now, I'd like you to tell our viewers 03:57 how it is that you arrived here, 03:59 I know at the first clip you mentioned 04:02 NEWSTART NOW, but tell us again. 04:05 Were you at home? Was it a Sunday afternoon? 04:08 When was it that you saw this program? 04:10 I had been home recuperating from my illness, 04:14 and I watch 3ABN all the time, 04:16 and this particular day, 04:17 I don't remember which day it was, 04:20 I was watching, and the NEWSTART program came on. 04:24 And I saw your program, so my husband suggested, 04:27 that I try to see, because I was just handicapped. 04:30 I wasn't able to do a lot of things, 04:33 but now... 04:35 praise be to God, 04:36 I am doing marvelous. 04:38 What made you think 04:40 coming to the NEWSTART program 04:42 that you would get better? 04:45 Because on their program I saw testimonials 04:48 of some of the NEWSTART guests, 04:50 and they were giving raving reviews 04:54 stating that they were sick, 04:57 their cholesterol was high, 04:58 they had high blood pressure, they had diabetes, 05:00 they had many things, 05:03 and when they came here, 05:05 the treatment helped them. 05:07 And some of them... one lady said she was in a wheelchair, 05:11 and didn't need the wheelchair anymore. 05:13 So I said, let me just go there, 05:15 because I just need to be able to walk! 05:19 Yes, praise God. 05:21 We have people that have come here in wheelchairs, 05:23 and they're walking circles around most the faculty now, 05:28 or the staff I should say. 05:30 So tell us, what part of the program did you like the most? 05:34 Well actually I liked the hydro, the hydro-therapy. 05:37 Everybody says they like the hydro-therapy! 05:39 - I liked the hydro-therapy. 05:40 - What about the hydro-therapy that was so good? 05:43 I thought I was going to be afraid of the hot and cold, 05:47 because someone had suggested it to me before, 05:50 but I was afraid of it. 05:52 But the way it was done here, 05:54 I was quite comfortable, and I liked it, 05:56 and I think it's very helpful. 05:59 So the hot and cold, is when they 06:01 do a contrasting shower, 06:03 and they put you in warm water, then they 06:06 reduce it and get it cold, 06:08 and you're trying to catch your breath! 06:10 and then they get it hot! 06:11 and you're too hot, and you start to sweat, 06:14 and then back and forth two or three times. 06:15 It's back and fourth, but it's not that drastic, 06:18 because they do it gradually. 06:19 I thought it was drastic, 06:21 because when I got it, it was drastic for me! 06:24 I didn't like the cold, I didn't like the hot! 06:26 I actually don't like the cold, I prefer the heat. 06:29 But it was not a drastic thing. 06:32 They did it gradually, and it was very helpful to me. 06:36 It was helpful to my aches and pains. 06:38 - Yes - Yes, and it 06:39 helped my knees greatly. 06:41 And now, what about the rest of your time here? 06:46 What else did you do that you enjoyed? 06:49 Or that you didn't enjoy? 06:51 Actually I enjoyed everything! 06:53 I enjoyed the food, 06:54 it's vegan style food. 06:57 I'm a vegetarian at home, but I was not a vegan. 07:01 And I find that I could live very nicely on a vegan recipe, 07:05 the food is good, 07:07 and it's attractive, well prepared, 07:11 and the cook seems to know what she's about. 07:14 And you learned to cook some of these vegan dishes... 07:16 - Yes, because we have cooking classes everyday. 07:20 Everyday, was Sally Christensen. 07:22 Yes. 07:23 Sally's been here like 20-25 years! 07:25 She's been here a long time but she's very valuable. 07:28 Very valuable, yes. 07:31 And what I'm really impressed about, 07:34 well I'm impressed about all our visits with guests 07:38 but particularly you're walking now. 07:40 You're walking how many miles a day? 07:42 Five to six. 07:43 Five to six miles a day, 07:45 and three months ago you couldn't even walk. 07:46 Right. 07:48 And it's so great that when it rains, 07:50 we go to the gym and use the treadmill. 07:53 We have a gym here that you can go 07:56 and use the treadmill and that suffices. 07:59 Ok, and your doctor again is? 08:02 Dr. DeRose. 08:04 - He's marvelous, he's a wonderful doctor. 08:07 You know he's new to our staff here, 08:10 by a couple of months now, 08:12 but Dr. DeRose is a wonderful man. 08:14 - Yes, I was very impressed when I went to see him, 08:19 my second visit, 08:21 he said to me, I though about you, 08:23 and I prayed for you. 08:25 And he gave me a Bible verse, 08:27 and I was so impressed, that I had to call my husband, 08:30 and tell him that 08:32 my doctor had thought about me prayed for me, 08:34 and brought me a Scripture verse. 08:35 I was very very impressed. 08:38 Isn't that amazing? - That is amazing. 08:40 That just... - And it's unusual. 08:42 You know when I went to visit my doctor, 08:44 when I went through here, 08:46 Michael Orlich was my doctor, 08:49 and I was so impressed by his wanting to pray, 08:53 and we knelt in his office, and we prayed. And I went, wow! 08:57 Something magical about this place. 08:59 -Yes. 09:00 Magic in that surely God's hand is upon Weimar. 09:06 And he prays for guidance to help me 09:09 with my diagnosis, and to help in treatment. 09:13 Yes, very good. - Good 09:16 Alright, what are we going to do now? 09:19 Your going to go home, here you are 09:21 you're back at your house 09:23 everybody there eats what? 09:27 It's just my husband and I, and he's already a vegetarian. 09:31 So I just... and he's very pliable, 09:32 I just have to introduce him to the vegan style! 09:36 You have to introduce him! 09:37 Yes. 09:39 I don't know how to take that, does that mean 09:40 that you're going to take the eggs and cheese away? 09:42 Actually he eats egg whites, 09:45 he doesn't eat egg yoke, and you can do without that. 09:48 Yes, you can do without the egg whites to? 09:50 Yes, you can do that. 09:51 and the cheese. - Yes. 09:54 Ok, and you're going to 09:57 stay on the program when you get home. 09:59 Yes, because I've shown so much improvement, 10:02 so I want to be back to my normal self. 10:06 Your on your way. - I'm on my way. 10:08 God Bless you. 10:10 Thank you very much. 10:11 And thank you so much for coming on our program. 10:13 - You're quite welcome. 10:14 And friends, we want to thank you also, 10:17 but don't go away, because 10:19 Dr. DeRose will be with us in a moment. 10:23 Well, you've done very well. 10:31 Do you have diabetes, 10:32 heart disease, high blood pressure, 10:35 or do you weigh too much? 10:37 Hi, my name is Dr. Ing, and I'd like to tell you 10:40 about our 18-day NEWSTART lifestyle program. 10:43 It includes a comprehensive medical 10:45 evaluation with laboratory studies and an 10:48 exercise stress test, 10:50 physician consultations, 10:52 culinary school, 10:54 and an opportunity to walk on beautiful 10:56 trails in the foothills of the Sierras. 11:01 Your health is one of the most 11:02 important things that you have. Don't wait. 11:05 Give us a call. 11:10 Or visit our website. 11:29 Welcome back friends, and as I promised, 11:31 Dr. DeRose in our studio, How are you Doctor? 11:34 Good. Good to be with you. 11:36 Doctor, I know you're new to Weimar, 11:39 for a couple of months now 11:41 but you're not new to the work, and you've been doing this work 11:45 is my understanding for 20 or 25 years, 11:48 can you tell our viewers, 11:50 those that don't know you that is, 11:52 and I'm sure you're well known out there, 11:54 where you come from and a 11:56 little bit about your background. 11:57 Well your exactly right, I've been 11:59 doing this work for about 20 or 25 years. 12:01 I graduated from medical school in the mid 80s, 12:04 84 to be precise, 12:06 I did a internal medicine residency, 12:08 and then went right into 12:09 lifestyle medicine, working with other 12:12 Christian practitioners first in Wildwood lifestyle center. 12:15 - And how long were you at Wildwood? 12:17 I was there a relatively short time, a year or two, 12:19 then went to the large Florida hospital, 12:22 was there leading out in some preventative medicine 12:25 activities at that large 12:26 Adventist medical center in Florida, 12:29 multicampus facilities. 12:32 And then was up in the New York city area for a 12:35 while at a small ministry called living springs. 12:38 Later I was one of the physicians who opened 12:40 the Lifestyle Center of America in Oklahoma. 12:43 From there I went on to consulting, 12:46 and health media 12:47 emphasis in a business that my wife and I started, 12:51 a few years ago was invited to cut 12:54 that work back to half time so I could pastor. 12:57 I was invited to pastor in 12:58 northern New England, so was doing 13:00 pastoral work, as well as 13:02 health, especially health education, 13:03 and health media. 13:05 So now the Lord has redirected me into clinical medicine, 13:10 so I feel like I'm reconnecting 13:11 many of those pieces that Jesus had, 13:13 even in the pastoral work I wasn't doing much in the lines 13:17 direct healing as far as patients, 13:19 I was doing a lot with health education. 13:21 So it's great to be back at Weimar, 13:23 I say back because 13:25 I've done things with Weimar over 13:26 the years although I've never been 13:28 a staff member here until just the last couple of months. 13:31 I first met you about a year and a half ago, 13:34 I guess you were here and you 13:36 lectured at the chapel, 13:39 I just learned a whole lot of 13:41 new information that was exciting. 13:45 I also see you at the college, you're teaching there? 13:48 I'm actually teaching at the Weimar College as well. 13:51 I had been teaching while pastoring, 13:54 I was pastoring half time, I was teaching in the 13:56 community college system there a little bit in Maine, 13:59 and have continued with the teaching here, 14:01 that was part of the invitation. 14:03 They wanted me to be active in patient care, 14:06 but also involved in teaching students. 14:08 A lot of what I did in ministry, 14:10 was health evangelism, interfacing health 14:13 and meeting community needs through health 14:15 just like Jesus did, 14:17 and then connecting that with spiritual ministry, 14:20 so we're training our 14:21 students in how they can get more 14:24 training in ministering to their communities. 14:26 We in fact just had a program last night, 14:28 where we saw many community members 14:30 come here to the Weimar campus, 14:32 and our students were involved giving massages, 14:35 and checking blood pressure 14:37 - Preparing foods, and all that. 14:39 Preparing foods, yes, it was incredible, 14:41 so really the whole 14:42 Weimar experience in a nutshell last night, 14:44 the whole NEWSTART program. 14:46 - In a couple hours that was pretty incredible! 14:49 Well I want to get to talking about Una. 14:54 Now three months ago, as you know Una couldn't walk. 14:57 Yes, amazing, amazing story. 14:58 What happened? 15:00 Let me just ask you a multiple of questions here, 15:03 What happened? 15:05 Why is this vegan diet so powerful? 15:09 What is it about this diet? 15:12 I know that it will cure most any ailment! 15:16 I mean I feel that in my heart, 15:17 and that's a pretty bold statement, 15:19 but I believe it. 15:21 Tell us something about that. 15:22 Well you know physicians like to feel that they know everything! 15:26 - Well of course! 15:28 - With the exception of the one sitting here! 15:31 Well you know, our team here, 15:33 we realize that God is the healer, 15:36 and I'm not trying to put down my fellow physicians, 15:39 but really we're trained 15:40 to try to master the art of diagnoses and treatment. 15:43 And it's very frustrating for the physicians 15:46 to have a problem that they can't really diagnose fully, 15:48 and that was the case with Una. 15:50 No one really convincingly diagnosed her at home, 15:54 they had a hypothesis that they were going with, 15:57 and to be honest we didn't do any better here, 15:59 we didn't send her off for a whole 16:01 battery of tests, and nail down exactly what was going on. 16:05 But what I've noticed over the years 16:07 in working with lifestyle medicine, 16:08 and using the Lord's simple programs, 16:10 is that when we apply God's principles, 16:13 diet, the exercise, the 16:15 hydrotherapy like you heard about, massage, 16:18 other natural remedies, 16:20 we're emphasising trust in God 16:22 and social support in the program 16:25 It's not just something that you 16:26 read a book about and do, you have 16:28 a whole group of people 16:29 that are sustaining one another as they go 16:31 through this lifestyle change experience. 16:33 I have just seen tremendous things happen, 16:36 and some of the most remarkable 16:37 experiences I've had with 16:38 patients in my life are the people 16:40 that I either can't diagnose, 16:42 or I diagnose them and I say, 16:44 Lord why did you send this person here? 16:46 I don't have anything to offer them. 16:48 There's no medical treatment 16:49 that we know of that can help them. 16:50 And that's why they're there, 16:52 because the doctors saw them 16:53 and they said, We can't help you. 16:55 And so they come to a place like Weimar, 16:57 and we don't really, intellectually 17:01 know any better than anyone else, 17:02 but we do know something that many doctors often forget, 17:06 and that is that the Lord is the healer. 17:08 And so our philosophy here, 17:11 is we look at a persons lifestyle, 17:13 we look at their life practices, then we look at the Bible. 17:17 We look at these simple concepts, 17:18 they're found in Genesis one and two. 17:20 What was God's original plan? 17:21 How did He want us to live? 17:23 And like you said it was a total vegetarian diet, 17:25 it's not a legalistic thing here, 17:26 where we say everyone has to be a total vegetarian. 17:29 But we say, why would in the beginning, 17:32 when God was creating people to live forever, 17:34 why would He give them a diet that 17:36 was totally based on plant products? 17:39 It just speaks to me as a physician 17:42 and pastor, as a student of the Bible, 17:44 saying there's something here. 17:45 But if I just kind of push that off to the side, 17:48 and say you know, we don't want to be too dogmatic here! 17:51 Ok, well we're not dogmatic, we're just saying 17:54 this causes you to say, Stop, wait a minute. 17:57 Why did God give us this program? 17:59 So that's what we try to do with our patients. 18:01 Try to get them on that program that reproduces 18:03 what God gave in the beginning, and by the way 18:05 what the Bible says is that He's 18:07 going to recreate in the earth made new. 18:09 Amen. 18:11 You know, I'm just amazed, but I know 18:15 in your 25 years experience that you've seen 18:19 over and over and over again. 18:22 Maybe there some one of our viewers right now that 18:26 that's misdiagnosed, or 18:28 doesn't know if they can be cured. 18:30 Can we give them some hope Doc? 18:32 Is there something that you could say 18:34 to our viewers just to implant that seed of hope? 18:39 Well Ron, you know our God is a God of hope. 18:42 and I love a little statement 18:46 that a Christian commentator wrote on the Scriptures, 18:49 and that is that man's extremity is God's opportunity. 18:54 You know, often when we seem to be at the end of our rope, 18:57 often when we don't see hope, 18:59 God is really trying to open 19:01 our mind to something much bigger. 19:03 Time after time, if you look at the Scriptures, 19:05 God allows people to get into situations, 19:08 where when it's all said and done, 19:10 no one can take the glory but God alone. 19:13 Whether it's the story of Joseph, 19:15 whether it's Gideon, 19:16 whether it's Jesus himself, 19:18 I mean God intervenes, 19:20 in these stories in the Bible, 19:22 and so when God is often wanting to 19:24 do something dramatic in our life, 19:25 it's not that we just read the latest self help book, 19:28 and we just put it all together. 19:30 But often we recognize our need, 19:33 and sometimes God has to take us 19:34 out of our normal everyday experience, 19:37 whether it's Daniel, 19:39 being brought forcibly to Babylon, 19:41 or someone feeling 19:43 that kind of against their will 19:45 they're having to go to a Weimar 19:47 because they have health problems, 19:48 they don't know where to turn. 19:49 Our God is a God of hope, and He 19:51 specializes in healing desperate cases. 19:55 -You know, you just gave pretty much an overview for me, 19:59 of what heals people when they come here. 20:02 And I know there are various different diseases, if you will, 20:07 but in Una's case, 20:11 is there anything specific 20:12 as a physician that you looked at? 20:16 Any direction? 20:18 Did God tell you anything you should be doing in here case? 20:22 -Well I mean we looked at many specific things, 20:24 and in working with team-- we 20:25 have a whole team here-- one of the 20:27 things that was important was the whole 20:28 hydrotherapy, massage, the physical modalities. 20:31 When anyone has any kind of 20:33 musculoskeletal concernes whether it's arthritis, 20:36 whether it's weakness, 20:37 we have someone who especially works in 20:39 the area of exercise with our patients, 20:41 we have people that work in the are of hands on treatments, 20:43 the massage and the hydro therapy. 20:45 So these were critical things in the program as well 20:48 as the diet and other elements of the lifestyle. 20:51 And we haven't mentioned the chaplain I 20:53 know that we have a chaplain here as well 20:56 where people-- our guests can go and speak with. 21:00 Any comments about that? 21:01 Oh yes, this is a huge part of the program. 21:03 Viola is a tremendous minister in her own right, 21:07 and she takes a personal interest 21:09 in each person, and works with them as much or as little 21:12 as they feel comfortable being 21:14 worked with in the spiritual realm. 21:16 Yes, what a blessing. 21:18 Doctor, I want to thank you for joining us on our set, 21:21 and look forward for another interview. 21:24 And thank you for joining us folks, 21:26 but don't go away 21:27 because we've got a tip for you in just a moment. 21:44 Hello and welcome to NEWSTART AT HOME, 21:45 I'm your host Don Mackintosh, 21:47 we're glad you're with us, and we're 21:48 glad today to have Dr. David DeRose 21:50 with us in the studio. 21:51 Dr. DeRose is a specialist in internal medicine, 21:54 and also I believe Doctor, 21:56 preventative medicine... - You're exactly right. 21:58 in other words, how to prevent problems, 21:59 and then if they have 22:00 problems how to help them if they do. 22:02 No you're right, preventative medicine 22:04 actually looks at the whole scope of prevention, 22:06 what we sometimes call primary prevention, 22:08 preventing diseases from ever occurring 22:09 and then there's other aspect of prevention that 22:12 try to prevent the ravages of various diseases. 22:15 And one of the things that can prevent 22:17 disease is a robust, or healthy immune system. 22:19 That's what we're going to talk about today. 22:22 Very important, the immune system is incredibly important 22:25 whether we're speaking about 22:26 cancer or the garden variety cold, 22:28 our immune system has a whole lot to say 22:31 about whether we're going to come 22:32 down with some of these illnesses. 22:34 So you I think have some new 22:35 research that you want to share with us, but 22:38 the immune system, what can we do to enhance it? 22:41 Well there's a lot of things we 22:43 can do to enhance the immune system, 22:45 and we really don't have time to give an exhaustive list, 22:48 but moderate exercise is very important, 22:50 healthy diet, stress management. 22:54 We want to focus today though on adequate rest. 22:57 Adequate rest as it relates to the immune system. 22:59 How much do we need? I'm in my 40s, 23:03 lets just say late 30s! 23:06 How much rest do I need? 23:08 Well I mean this was the real shocker, a study 23:10 fairly recently published in 2009 23:13 actually looked at this question 23:15 as it related to the common cold. 23:17 One of the viruses that causes a 23:19 common cold is called the Rino Virus. 23:21 - Rino Virus. 23:22 - Yes, no relation to the African wild animal! 23:25 Rino actually refers to the virus. 23:27 - Just a much smaller rhino! 23:29 - Yes, you got the general idea. 23:31 So the Rino Virus is one of these 23:33 viruses that cause the common cold. 23:35 And researchers in this particular study 23:38 gathered a group of some 150 individuals 23:42 and studied their sleeping habits for two weeks. 23:45 They actually took careful logs of their sleep habits, 23:48 they questioned them after sleeping, 23:50 and they were able to generate some charts for each individual 23:54 showing how many total hours they slept, 23:57 and the quality of their sleep. 23:58 In other words how much time specifically 24:00 they were sleeping while they were in bed. 24:03 What they then did, was they 24:05 inoculated each of these individuals 24:08 with the Rino Virus. 24:09 - So they gave them the cold. 24:11 Well they gave them the virus. 24:13 The interesting thing was, 24:15 not all of them developed an infection, 24:18 and even those that developed an infection, 24:20 not all of them came down with a cold. 24:22 Now some of our viewers may be a little perplexed 24:25 as to how you can get an infection 24:28 and not have a cold. 24:29 You fight it off. 24:31 Exactly. 24:32 We know as health professionals that it's 24:35 very common to have an inapparent infection. 24:38 So a person can have the disease, 24:41 you can check their blood, 24:42 the blood says yes the immune system has geared up, 24:45 you actually have influenza or Rino Virus or whatever, 24:48 but you look and feel healthy. 24:50 So some individuals in that senario. 24:53 But when you looked at the people with the clear cut colds, 24:57 triple the risk of having a cold, 25:00 if you were getting less than seven hours of sleep per night 25:04 compared to more than eight. 25:06 So between seven and eight was the magic number, 25:08 was that for every age? 25:10 No it was not the magic number actually, 25:11 between seven and eight was intermediate 25:13 eight hours or more were the best. 25:15 What do you mean more? 12 hours is that good? 15 hours? 25:19 Well there is a point of diminishing return. 25:21 In the particular study 25:23 they found that those that were getting 25:24 more sleep than eight hours actually had 25:26 better immune systems, 25:28 based on how they handled the Rin Virus, 25:31 than those who were even getting the typically 25:33 recommended seven or eight hours of sleep at night. 25:35 So if you are feeling sick, or maybe 25:37 are in a situation you should probably get 25:39 more sleep when that's happening. 25:40 Excellent, that's the bottom line message. 25:43 If you're feeling tired 25:44 that's a sign your body maybe trying to fight something off, 25:47 you may need that extra immune reserve, 25:49 and don't hesitate to try to 25:51 even if you got to get a nap in, or go to bed early, 25:53 or do what you need to do because sleep is 25:55 something very important for your immune system. 25:58 So the diminishing returns came when? 25:59 12 hours? 10 hours? 15 hours? 26:01 Well the researchers in this 26:03 particular study didn't look at it, 26:04 but we know from other research 26:06 that too much sleep is not desirable either. 26:10 What the question is when you look at population groups, 26:13 are people sleeping more 26:15 because their unhealthy to begin with. 26:16 that's the chicken or the egg question that 26:19 always comes when you look at sleep habits. 26:21 We've been talking to Dr. David DeRose. 26:23 We've been talking about 26:24 sleep and rest as it relates to the immune system. 26:28 And we learned today that the typical seven 26:29 or eight hours that we normally talk about 26:31 is really not enough when you're feeling tired or sick. 26:35 You need to bump it up over that eight, 26:37 maybe nine, or even ten, 26:39 and the body will kind of tell you. 26:41 If you want more information about this go to: 26:44 And we thank Dr. DeRose for being with us, 26:46 and we thank you for being with us today. Have a great day. 26:56 Modern views of evolution stem all the way 26:59 back to theories developed in the mid 1800s. 27:02 Out of the same time period came ideas that shape 27:06 our educational system today. 27:09 The common school movement for example, 27:11 saw schools more like a factory, 27:13 with students blindly memorizing 27:15 instruction rather than thinking for themselves. 27:18 Their curriculum was rigid and theoretical, 27:21 instead of being flexible and practical, 27:24 It was designed to conform the individual 27:26 into a specific ideological mold, 27:29 that fit the needs of a old industrial era, long since past. 27:34 Just like our view of creation in six literal days, 27:38 we believe the Bible contains an educational blueprint 27:42 radically different from the one we see now. 27:57 Well friends that's it for today. 27:59 Thank you for joining us. 28:01 Pick up that phone and call us at: 28:06 God Bless you. |
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