Hi friends, and welcome to
another edition of NEWSTART NOW.
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In our studio
today, we have Una Bourne.
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Una came to us two
weeks ago with some problems,
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and I'd like to watch a
clip of when she first arrived.
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In November of last year,
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I had an illness that
prevented me from walking,
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I couldn't walk at all,
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and it affected my arms,
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and most of the
muscles, they were all weak.
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And the Doctors were not
sure what was wrong with me.
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So while I was
home recuperating,
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I was watching television
and I saw the NEWSTART program
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on 3ABN, introducing Weimar.
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So my husband
suggested that I come here.
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Well I've had a
thyroid condition,
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it was hyper,
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and the doctor
gave me a little bit too
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much radioactive
iodine and made it hypo,
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so I have that condition.
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Plus I am hyper-tensive,
and I'm a little bit overweight.
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I want to see my legs improve.
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I want to be able to
walk as I used to walk.
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I want to regain the
functions in my arms,
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and I want my blood
pressure to be in control,
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and... lose some weight.
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Welcome back friends,
and in our studio is Una.
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How are you Una? -
I'm fine thank you.
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You know when I
watched that clip I saw when
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you arrived here,
you want a lot of things!
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- Yes.
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Tell me, what has happened
to you since you've been here?
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Well since I've been
here, I have lost some weight,
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not as much as I would
like to, but I have lost some.
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I have gained
strength in my legs.
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I'm now able to walk
between five and six miles.
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Oh! Now that's
significant because
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last year you
couldn't walk at all.
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No, I couldn't walk.
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In November I
couldn't walk at all.
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In November you
couldn't walk. - No.
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And this is the first of March,
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and so... what do
you attribute this to?
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I attribute it too...
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good care,
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and the program that is
here, the NEWSTART program.
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They emphasize
exercise, good nutrition,
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sunlight,
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and I have been taking
advantage of the program.
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Now you're on medications?
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Yes, I'm on medication.
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Are you on the same amount of
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medications as you
were when you came?
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No, I have not been
taking some medication
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because my
condition has improved.
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As a matter of fact my
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cholesterol has gone down,
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my blood
pressure is really stable,
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really really stable!
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Are you taking
blood pressure meds?
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I was.
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But no more. - No.
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And your blood
pressure is normal?
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My blood pressure is good, yes.
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Without medication? - Yes.
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But it has to be
monitored carefully.
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Yes, or course. Yes.
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And tell us more, have you
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eliminated any
other medications?
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No I was not on a
lot of medication,
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because my condition, they did
not know what was wrong with me,
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so I was not receiving
any medication for my illness.
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And actually the doctor tells me
that I need to, when I go home,
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see my physician,
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because I may not need to be
taking my thyroid medication.
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Oh really?
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Yes, the thyroid levels,
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the blood work
that they did here,
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it has shown great improvement.
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Oh wonderful.
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Now, I'd like you
to tell our viewers
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how it is that you arrived here,
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I know at the
first clip you mentioned
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NEWSTART NOW, but tell us again.
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Were you at home? Was
it a Sunday afternoon?
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When was it that
you saw this program?
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I had been home
recuperating from my illness,
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and I watch 3ABN all the time,
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and this particular day,
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I don't remember
which day it was,
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I was watching, and the
NEWSTART program came on.
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And I saw your program,
so my husband suggested,
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that I try to see,
because I was just handicapped.
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I wasn't able to
do a lot of things,
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but now...
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praise be to God,
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I am doing marvelous.
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What made you think
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coming to the NEWSTART program
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that you would get better?
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Because on their
program I saw testimonials
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of some of the NEWSTART guests,
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and they were
giving raving reviews
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stating that they were sick,
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their cholesterol was high,
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they had high blood
pressure, they had diabetes,
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they had many things,
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and when they came here,
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the treatment helped them.
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And some of them... one lady
said she was in a wheelchair,
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and didn't need
the wheelchair anymore.
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So I said, let me just go there,
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because I just
need to be able to walk!
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Yes, praise God.
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We have people that have
come here in wheelchairs,
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and they're walking circles
around most the faculty now,
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or the staff I should say.
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So tell us, what part of the
program did you like the most?
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Well actually I liked
the hydro, the hydro-therapy.
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Everybody says they
like the hydro-therapy!
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- I liked the hydro-therapy.
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- What about the
hydro-therapy that was so good?
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I thought I was going to
be afraid of the hot and cold,
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because someone had
suggested it to me before,
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but I was afraid of it.
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But the way it was done here,
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I was quite
comfortable, and I liked it,
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and I think it's very helpful.
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So the hot and
cold, is when they
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do a contrasting shower,
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and they put you in
warm water, then they
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reduce it and get it cold,
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and you're trying
to catch your breath!
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and then they get it hot!
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and you're too hot,
and you start to sweat,
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and then back and
forth two or three times.
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It's back and fourth,
but it's not that drastic,
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because they do it gradually.
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I thought it was drastic,
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because when I got
it, it was drastic for me!
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I didn't like the
cold, I didn't like the hot!
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I actually don't like
the cold, I prefer the heat.
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But it was not a drastic thing.
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They did it gradually,
and it was very helpful to me.
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It was helpful to
my aches and pains.
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- Yes - Yes, and it
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helped my knees greatly.
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And now, what about
the rest of your time here?
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What else did you
do that you enjoyed?
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Or that you didn't enjoy?
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Actually I enjoyed everything!
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I enjoyed the food,
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it's vegan style food.
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I'm a vegetarian at
home, but I was not a vegan.
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And I find that I could live
very nicely on a vegan recipe,
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the food is good,
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and it's
attractive, well prepared,
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and the cook seems to
know what she's about.
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And you learned to cook
some of these vegan dishes...
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- Yes, because we have
cooking classes everyday.
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Everyday, was Sally Christensen.
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Yes.
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Sally's been
here like 20-25 years!
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She's been here a long
time but she's very valuable.
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Very valuable, yes.
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And what I'm
really impressed about,
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well I'm impressed about
all our visits with guests
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but particularly
you're walking now.
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You're walking
how many miles a day?
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Five to six.
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Five to six miles a day,
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and three months ago
you couldn't even walk.
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Right.
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And it's so great
that when it rains,
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we go to the gym
and use the treadmill.
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We have a gym
here that you can go
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and use the
treadmill and that suffices.
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Ok, and your doctor again is?
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Dr. DeRose.
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- He's marvelous,
he's a wonderful doctor.
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You know he's new
to our staff here,
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by a couple of months now,
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but Dr. DeRose
is a wonderful man.
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- Yes, I was very impressed
when I went to see him,
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my second visit,
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he said to me, I
though about you,
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and I prayed for you.
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And he gave me a Bible verse,
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and I was so impressed,
that I had to call my husband,
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and tell him that
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my doctor had thought
about me prayed for me,
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and brought me
a Scripture verse.
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I was very very impressed.
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Isn't that
amazing? - That is amazing.
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That just... - And it's unusual.
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You know when I
went to visit my doctor,
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when I went through here,
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Michael Orlich was my doctor,
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and I was so impressed
by his wanting to pray,
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and we knelt in his office,
and we prayed. And I went, wow!
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Something
magical about this place.
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-Yes.
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Magic in that surely
God's hand is upon Weimar.
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And he prays for
guidance to help me
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with my diagnosis,
and to help in treatment.
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Yes, very good. - Good
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Alright, what are
we going to do now?
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Your going to go
home, here you are
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you're back at your house
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everybody there eats what?
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It's just my husband and I,
and he's already a vegetarian.
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So I just... and
he's very pliable,
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I just have to introduce
him to the vegan style!
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You have to introduce him!
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Yes.
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I don't know how to
take that, does that mean
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that you're going to
take the eggs and cheese away?
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Actually he eats egg whites,
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he doesn't eat egg yoke,
and you can do without that.
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Yes, you can do
without the egg whites to?
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Yes, you can do that.
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and the cheese. - Yes.
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Ok, and you're going to
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stay on the
program when you get home.
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Yes, because I've
shown so much improvement,
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so I want to be
back to my normal self.
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Your on your
way. - I'm on my way.
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God Bless you.
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Thank you very much.
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And thank you so much
for coming on our program.
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- You're quite welcome.
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And friends, we
want to thank you also,
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but don't go away, because
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Dr. DeRose will be
with us in a moment.
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Well, you've done very well.
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Do you have diabetes,
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heart disease,
high blood pressure,
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or do you weigh too much?
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Hi, my name is Dr. Ing,
and I'd like to tell you
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about our 18-day
NEWSTART lifestyle program.
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It includes a
comprehensive medical
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evaluation with
laboratory studies and an
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exercise stress test,
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physician consultations,
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culinary school,
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and an opportunity
to walk on beautiful
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trails in the
foothills of the Sierras.
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Your health is one of the most
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important things
that you have. Don't wait.
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Give us a call.
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Or visit our website.
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Welcome back
friends, and as I promised,
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Dr. DeRose in our
studio, How are you Doctor?
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Good. Good to be with you.
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Doctor, I know
you're new to Weimar,
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for a couple of months now
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but you're not new to the work,
and you've been doing this work
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is my understanding
for 20 or 25 years,
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can you tell our viewers,
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those that don't
know you that is,
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and I'm sure you're
well known out there,
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where you come from and a
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little bit
about your background.
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Well your
exactly right, I've been
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doing this work for
about 20 or 25 years.
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I graduated from
medical school in the mid 80s,
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84 to be precise,
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I did a internal
medicine residency,
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and then went right into
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lifestyle
medicine, working with other
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Christian practitioners first
in Wildwood lifestyle center.
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- And how long
were you at Wildwood?
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I was there a relatively
short time, a year or two,
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then went to the
large Florida hospital,
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was there leading out in
some preventative medicine
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activities at that large
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Adventist medical
center in Florida,
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multicampus facilities.
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And then was up in the
New York city area for a
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while at a small
ministry called living springs.
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Later I was one of
the physicians who opened
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the Lifestyle Center
of America in Oklahoma.
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From there I
went on to consulting,
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and health media
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emphasis in a business
that my wife and I started,
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a few years ago
was invited to cut
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that work back to half
time so I could pastor.
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I was invited to pastor in
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northern New
England, so was doing
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pastoral work, as well as
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health,
especially health education,
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and health media.
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So now the Lord has redirected
me into clinical medicine,
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so I feel like I'm reconnecting
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many of those
pieces that Jesus had,
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even in the pastoral work I
wasn't doing much in the lines
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direct healing
as far as patients,
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I was doing a lot
with health education.
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So it's great to
be back at Weimar,
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I say back because
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I've done
things with Weimar over
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the years
although I've never been
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a staff member here until
just the last couple of months.
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I first met you about
a year and a half ago,
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I guess you were here and you
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lectured at the chapel,
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I just learned a whole lot of
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new information
that was exciting.
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I also see you at the
college, you're teaching there?
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I'm actually teaching at
the Weimar College as well.
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I had been
teaching while pastoring,
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I was pastoring half
time, I was teaching in the
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community college system
there a little bit in Maine,
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and have continued
with the teaching here,
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that was part of the invitation.
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They wanted me to be
active in patient care,
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but also involved
in teaching students.
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A lot of what I did in ministry,
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was health
evangelism, interfacing health
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and meeting
community needs through health
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just like Jesus did,
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and then connecting
that with spiritual ministry,
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so we're training our
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students in how
they can get more
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training in ministering
to their communities.
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We in fact just had
a program last night,
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where we saw
many community members
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come here to the Weimar campus,
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and our students were
involved giving massages,
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and checking blood pressure
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- Preparing foods, and all that.
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Preparing foods,
yes, it was incredible,
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so really the whole
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Weimar experience in
a nutshell last night,
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the whole NEWSTART program.
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- In a couple hours
that was pretty incredible!
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Well I want to get
to talking about Una.
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Now three months ago, as
you know Una couldn't walk.
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Yes, amazing, amazing story.
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What happened?
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Let me just ask you a
multiple of questions here,
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What happened?
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Why is this
vegan diet so powerful?
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What is it about this diet?
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I know that it will
cure most any ailment!
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I mean I feel that in my heart,
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and that's a
pretty bold statement,
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but I believe it.
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Tell us something about that.
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Well you know physicians like to
feel that they know everything!
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- Well of course!
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- With the exception
of the one sitting here!
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Well you know, our team here,
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we realize that
God is the healer,
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and I'm not trying to put
down my fellow physicians,
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but really we're trained
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to try to master the art
of diagnoses and treatment.
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And it's very
frustrating for the physicians
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to have a problem that they
can't really diagnose fully,
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and that was the case with Una.
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No one really convincingly
diagnosed her at home,
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they had a hypothesis
that they were going with,
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and to be honest we
didn't do any better here,
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we didn't send
her off for a whole
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battery of tests, and nail
down exactly what was going on.
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But what I've
noticed over the years
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in working with
lifestyle medicine,
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and using the
Lord's simple programs,
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is that when we
apply God's principles,
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diet, the exercise, the
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hydrotherapy like
you heard about, massage,
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other natural remedies,
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we're emphasising trust in God
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and social
support in the program
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It's not just something that you
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read a book
about and do, you have
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a whole group of people
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that are sustaining
one another as they go
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through this
lifestyle change experience.
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I have just seen
tremendous things happen,
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and some of the most remarkable
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experiences I've had with
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patients in my
life are the people
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that I either can't diagnose,
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or I diagnose them and I say,
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Lord why did you
send this person here?
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I don't have
anything to offer them.
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There's no medical treatment
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that we know of
that can help them.
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And that's why they're there,
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because the doctors saw them
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and they said,
We can't help you.
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And so they come to
a place like Weimar,
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and we don't
really, intellectually
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know any better
than anyone else,
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but we do know something
that many doctors often forget,
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and that is that
the Lord is the healer.
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And so our philosophy here,
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is we look at a
persons lifestyle,
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we look at their life practices,
then we look at the Bible.
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We look at
these simple concepts,
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they're found in
Genesis one and two.
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What was God's original plan?
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How did He want us to live?
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And like you said it
was a total vegetarian diet,
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it's not a
legalistic thing here,
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where we say everyone
has to be a total vegetarian.
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But we say, why
would in the beginning,
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when God was creating
people to live forever,
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why would He
give them a diet that
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was totally based
on plant products?
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It just speaks
to me as a physician
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and pastor, as a
student of the Bible,
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saying there's something here.
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But if I just kind of
push that off to the side,
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and say you know, we don't
want to be too dogmatic here!
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Ok, well we're not
dogmatic, we're just saying
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this causes you to
say, Stop, wait a minute.
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Why did God
give us this program?
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So that's what we try
to do with our patients.
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Try to get them on
that program that reproduces
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what God gave in the
beginning, and by the way
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what the Bible says is that He's
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going to recreate
in the earth made new.
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Amen.
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You know, I'm
just amazed, but I know
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in your 25 years
experience that you've seen
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over and over and over again.
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Maybe there some one of
our viewers right now that
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that's misdiagnosed, or
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doesn't know if
they can be cured.
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Can we give them some hope Doc?
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Is there
something that you could say
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to our viewers just to
implant that seed of hope?
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Well Ron, you know
our God is a God of hope.
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and I love a little statement
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that a Christian commentator
wrote on the Scriptures,
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and that is that man's
extremity is God's opportunity.
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You know, often when we seem
to be at the end of our rope,
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often when we don't see hope,
00:18:57.61\00:18:59.06
God is really trying to open
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our mind to
something much bigger.
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Time after time, if
you look at the Scriptures,
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God allows people
to get into situations,
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where when it's
all said and done,
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no one can take the
glory but God alone.
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Whether it's
the story of Joseph,
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whether it's Gideon,
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whether it's Jesus himself,
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I mean God intervenes,
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in these stories in the Bible,
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and so when God
is often wanting to
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do something
dramatic in our life,
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it's not that we just
read the latest self help book,
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and we just put it all together.
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But often we recognize our need,
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and sometimes God has to take us
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out of our normal
everyday experience,
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whether it's Daniel,
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being brought
forcibly to Babylon,
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or someone feeling
00:19:41.61\00:19:42.60
that kind of against their will
00:19:42.87\00:19:45.06
they're having to go to a Weimar
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because they
have health problems,
00:19:47.06\00:19:48.33
they don't know where to turn.
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Our God is a God of hope, and He
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specializes in
healing desperate cases.
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-You know, you just gave
pretty much an overview for me,
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of what heals
people when they come here.
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And I know there are various
different diseases, if you will,
00:20:02.48\00:20:07.03
but in Una's case,
00:20:07.45\00:20:10.51
is there anything specific
00:20:11.06\00:20:12.39
as a physician
that you looked at?
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Any direction?
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Did God tell you anything you
should be doing in here case?
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-Well I mean we looked
at many specific things,
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and in working with team-- we
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have a whole
team here-- one of the
00:20:25.43\00:20:27.00
things that was
important was the whole
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hydrotherapy, massage,
the physical modalities.
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When anyone has any kind of
00:20:31.57\00:20:33.15
musculoskeletal concernes
whether it's arthritis,
00:20:33.16\00:20:35.78
whether it's weakness,
00:20:36.09\00:20:37.12
we have someone
who especially works in
00:20:37.33\00:20:39.09
the area of
exercise with our patients,
00:20:39.10\00:20:40.72
we have people that work in
the are of hands on treatments,
00:20:41.06\00:20:43.54
the massage and
the hydro therapy.
00:20:43.69\00:20:45.27
So these were critical
things in the program as well
00:20:45.45\00:20:48.03
as the diet and other
elements of the lifestyle.
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And we haven't
mentioned the chaplain I
00:20:51.06\00:20:53.48
know that we have a
chaplain here as well
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where people-- our
guests can go and speak with.
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Any comments about that?
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Oh yes, this is a
huge part of the program.
00:21:01.63\00:21:03.75
Viola is a tremendous
minister in her own right,
00:21:03.84\00:21:07.24
and she takes a
personal interest
00:21:07.25\00:21:09.45
in each person, and works
with them as much or as little
00:21:09.72\00:21:12.54
as they feel comfortable being
00:21:12.84\00:21:14.21
worked with in
the spiritual realm.
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Yes, what a blessing.
00:21:16.69\00:21:17.81
Doctor, I want to thank
you for joining us on our set,
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and look forward
for another interview.
00:21:21.39\00:21:23.72
And thank you
for joining us folks,
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but don't go away
00:21:26.13\00:21:27.21
because we've got a tip
for you in just a moment.
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Hello and welcome
to NEWSTART AT HOME,
00:21:44.24\00:21:45.66
I'm your host Don Mackintosh,
00:21:45.67\00:21:46.75
we're glad you're
with us, and we're
00:21:46.87\00:21:48.69
glad today to
have Dr. David DeRose
00:21:48.70\00:21:50.06
with us in the studio.
00:21:50.07\00:21:51.69
Dr. DeRose is a
specialist in internal medicine,
00:21:51.72\00:21:54.45
and also I believe Doctor,
00:21:54.46\00:21:55.78
preventative medicine...
- You're exactly right.
00:21:56.27\00:21:57.87
in other words, how
to prevent problems,
00:21:58.06\00:21:59.54
and then if they have
00:21:59.55\00:22:00.69
problems how to
help them if they do.
00:22:00.70\00:22:02.12
No you're right,
preventative medicine
00:22:02.36\00:22:04.09
actually looks at the
whole scope of prevention,
00:22:04.10\00:22:06.15
what we sometimes
call primary prevention,
00:22:06.16\00:22:08.06
preventing
diseases from ever occurring
00:22:08.07\00:22:09.57
and then there's other
aspect of prevention that
00:22:09.84\00:22:12.42
try to prevent the
ravages of various diseases.
00:22:12.43\00:22:14.81
And one of the
things that can prevent
00:22:15.18\00:22:17.30
disease is a robust,
or healthy immune system.
00:22:17.31\00:22:19.78
That's what we're
going to talk about today.
00:22:19.79\00:22:22.21
Very important, the immune
system is incredibly important
00:22:22.33\00:22:25.24
whether we're speaking about
00:22:25.25\00:22:26.66
cancer or the
garden variety cold,
00:22:26.67\00:22:28.39
our immune system
has a whole lot to say
00:22:28.72\00:22:31.06
about whether
we're going to come
00:22:31.24\00:22:32.51
down with some
of these illnesses.
00:22:32.52\00:22:33.78
So you I think have some new
00:22:34.21\00:22:35.33
research that you
want to share with us, but
00:22:35.34\00:22:37.06
the immune system, what
can we do to enhance it?
00:22:38.06\00:22:41.51
Well there's a lot of things we
00:22:41.75\00:22:43.15
can do to enhance
the immune system,
00:22:43.16\00:22:44.60
and we really don't have
time to give an exhaustive list,
00:22:45.06\00:22:48.12
but moderate
exercise is very important,
00:22:48.27\00:22:50.48
healthy diet, stress management.
00:22:50.72\00:22:53.87
We want to focus today
though on adequate rest.
00:22:54.24\00:22:57.06
Adequate rest as it
relates to the immune system.
00:22:57.30\00:22:59.54
How much do we
need? I'm in my 40s,
00:22:59.63\00:23:03.06
lets just say late 30s!
00:23:03.07\00:23:05.06
How much rest do I need?
00:23:06.06\00:23:08.06
Well I mean this was
the real shocker, a study
00:23:08.15\00:23:10.21
fairly recently
published in 2009
00:23:10.66\00:23:13.09
actually looked at this question
00:23:13.18\00:23:15.06
as it related
to the common cold.
00:23:15.07\00:23:16.72
One of the viruses that causes a
00:23:17.42\00:23:19.18
common cold is
called the Rino Virus.
00:23:19.19\00:23:21.15
- Rino Virus.
00:23:21.36\00:23:22.42
- Yes, no relation to
the African wild animal!
00:23:22.48\00:23:25.36
Rino actually
refers to the virus.
00:23:25.48\00:23:27.48
- Just a much smaller rhino!
00:23:27.60\00:23:28.69
- Yes, you got the general idea.
00:23:29.06\00:23:31.09
So the Rino
Virus is one of these
00:23:31.54\00:23:33.27
viruses that
cause the common cold.
00:23:33.28\00:23:35.06
And researchers in
this particular study
00:23:35.30\00:23:37.66
gathered a group of
some 150 individuals
00:23:38.21\00:23:41.30
and studied their
sleeping habits for two weeks.
00:23:42.09\00:23:45.06
They actually took careful
logs of their sleep habits,
00:23:45.48\00:23:48.30
they questioned
them after sleeping,
00:23:48.60\00:23:50.60
and they were able to generate
some charts for each individual
00:23:50.78\00:23:54.39
showing how many
total hours they slept,
00:23:54.57\00:23:56.78
and the quality of their sleep.
00:23:57.12\00:23:58.45
In other words how
much time specifically
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they were sleeping
while they were in bed.
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What they then did, was they
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inoculated each
of these individuals
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with the Rino Virus.
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- So they gave them the cold.
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Well they gave them the virus.
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The interesting thing was,
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not all of them
developed an infection,
00:24:15.13\00:24:17.63
and even those that
developed an infection,
00:24:18.12\00:24:20.27
not all of them
came down with a cold.
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Now some of our viewers
may be a little perplexed
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as to how you
can get an infection
00:24:25.42\00:24:28.09
and not have a cold.
00:24:28.30\00:24:29.48
You fight it off.
00:24:29.57\00:24:30.57
Exactly.
00:24:31.12\00:24:32.18
We know as health
professionals that it's
00:24:32.63\00:24:35.45
very common to have
an inapparent infection.
00:24:35.46\00:24:38.42
So a person can
have the disease,
00:24:38.81\00:24:40.69
you can check their blood,
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the blood says yes the
immune system has geared up,
00:24:42.48\00:24:45.15
you actually have influenza
or Rino Virus or whatever,
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but you look and feel healthy.
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So some
individuals in that senario.
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But when you looked at the
people with the clear cut colds,
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triple the risk
of having a cold,
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if you were getting less than
seven hours of sleep per night
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compared to more than eight.
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So between seven and
eight was the magic number,
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was that for every age?
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No it was not the
magic number actually,
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between seven and
eight was intermediate
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eight hours or
more were the best.
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What do you mean more? 12
hours is that good? 15 hours?
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Well there is a point
of diminishing return.
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In the particular study
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they found that
those that were getting
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more sleep than
eight hours actually had
00:25:24.85\00:25:26.57
better immune systems,
00:25:26.78\00:25:28.75
based on how they
handled the Rin Virus,
00:25:28.84\00:25:30.75
than those who were
even getting the typically
00:25:31.06\00:25:33.09
recommended seven or
eight hours of sleep at night.
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So if you are
feeling sick, or maybe
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are in a situation
you should probably get
00:25:37.07\00:25:38.72
more sleep when
that's happening.
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Excellent, that's
the bottom line message.
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If you're feeling tired
00:25:43.07\00:25:44.27
that's a sign your body maybe
trying to fight something off,
00:25:44.54\00:25:47.24
you may need that
extra immune reserve,
00:25:47.48\00:25:49.39
and don't hesitate to try to
00:25:49.63\00:25:51.33
even if you got to get a
nap in, or go to bed early,
00:25:51.48\00:25:53.84
or do what you need
to do because sleep is
00:25:53.85\00:25:55.78
something very important
for your immune system.
00:25:55.79\00:25:58.06
So the
diminishing returns came when?
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12 hours? 10 hours? 15 hours?
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Well the researchers in this
00:26:01.60\00:26:03.12
particular study
didn't look at it,
00:26:03.13\00:26:04.84
but we know from other research
00:26:04.85\00:26:06.42
that too much sleep
is not desirable either.
00:26:06.57\00:26:09.75
What the question is when
you look at population groups,
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are people sleeping more
00:26:13.06\00:26:14.69
because their
unhealthy to begin with.
00:26:15.06\00:26:16.69
that's the chicken
or the egg question that
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always comes when
you look at sleep habits.
00:26:19.07\00:26:21.06
We've been talking
to Dr. David DeRose.
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We've been talking about
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sleep and rest as it
relates to the immune system.
00:26:24.16\00:26:27.45
And we learned today
that the typical seven
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or eight hours that
we normally talk about
00:26:29.76\00:26:31.51
is really not enough when
you're feeling tired or sick.
00:26:31.84\00:26:35.12
You need to bump
it up over that eight,
00:26:35.45\00:26:37.75
maybe nine, or even ten,
00:26:37.76\00:26:39.21
and the body
will kind of tell you.
00:26:39.72\00:26:41.06
If you want more
information about this go to:
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And we thank Dr.
DeRose for being with us,
00:26:44.12\00:26:46.42
and we thank you for being
with us today. Have a great day.
00:26:46.45\00:26:49.15
Modern views of
evolution stem all the way
00:26:56.78\00:26:59.27
back to theories
developed in the mid 1800s.
00:26:59.28\00:27:01.75
Out of the same time
period came ideas that shape
00:27:02.78\00:27:05.84
our educational system today.
00:27:06.15\00:27:08.18
The common school
movement for example,
00:27:09.18\00:27:11.06
saw schools more like a factory,
00:27:11.21\00:27:13.12
with students blindly memorizing
00:27:13.18\00:27:15.06
instruction rather than
thinking for themselves.
00:27:15.07\00:27:17.72
Their curriculum was
rigid and theoretical,
00:27:18.60\00:27:21.06
instead of being
flexible and practical,
00:27:21.45\00:27:23.57
It was designed to
conform the individual
00:27:24.12\00:27:26.48
into a specific
ideological mold,
00:27:26.57\00:27:29.18
that fit the needs of a old
industrial era, long since past.
00:27:29.54\00:27:33.06
Just like our view of
creation in six literal days,
00:27:34.63\00:27:37.75
we believe the Bible contains
an educational blueprint
00:27:38.06\00:27:42.06
radically different
from the one we see now.
00:27:42.27\00:27:44.57
Well friends
that's it for today.
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Thank you for joining us.
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