Hi folks, and welcome to
another edition of NEWSTART NOW.
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In our studio today
we have Norman Kraft,
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and Norman has suffered some
terrible losses in the past,
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and we'd like you to
watch this clip, if you would.
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My weight has been increasing,
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and my ability to
walk has been decreasing,
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so those were primarily
the reasons why I came.
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My weight is a big deal,
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I do have a hernia
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that has impeded my progressing
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and is really a great detriment.
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It's not possible to
correct it surgically,
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so my only option
is to lose weight.
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I want a reduction in weight,
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and improvement in
my ability to walk.
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Welcome back friends,
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and in our studio,
Norman, how are you sir?
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- Very well.
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Well Norman, I got to tell you
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from my perspective, you
look like a different man.
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- Thank you, I appreciate that.
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Your cheeks seem to be
rosier, you just seem to be...
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you have more life in you.
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Tell me, what has happened?
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What has changed
in this last 17 days?
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Well I have lost a
few pounds-- about seven,
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and my cholesterol
has gone from 198 to 137
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which is fantastic.
- That's phenomenal.
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Right.
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I still have to
work on my glucose,
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but now that I got
some further direction
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from Dr. DeRose, I should
be able to reduce that too,
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since I have to
correct some habits
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that have
developed over the years
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Of course my
walking has improved
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from barely a quarter mile,
to two and a half miles a day,
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Oh my. - which isn't a lot
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but it is certainly
more than I came with.
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Well from a quarter
of a mile to two miles
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is significant in my mind.
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Yes it is, I agree.
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Good job!
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Right, and I plan to continue it
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which is very important
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that I stay with the
program after I leave here,
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both in the vegan
diet, and in the exercise.
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Now why do you feel
you need to continue this?
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Well I need to lose more weight,
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plus, I will be more fit.
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I will be, hopefully
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in better shape.
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I do have my two
grandkids to look forward to,
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I want to be alive for them,
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and I want them
to be alive for me,
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so we can spend time together.
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Norman, at the
beginning of the program
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I stated that you
had suffered a great loss
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and I know that not
long ago, your wife passed,
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after some 45 or 50 years?
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Yes, 45 years of marriage.
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And my prayer is that through
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this program and the
renewing of your strength,
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and some hope, that
you can get stronger,
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and be able to be with your
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grandchildren and play
with them as we've shared.
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Tell us about the
program as you've been here,
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I know you've been
through hydro-therapy.
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What was your
favorite part of this program?
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Well I liked the hydro-therapy,
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I do like the vegan food,
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and the improvement in walking
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is really a big help to me,
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I can breath easier.
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I can enjoy life better.
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So this is tremendous
progress in the right direction.
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Now before you came on set here,
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you were visiting with Dr.
DeRose, that's your doctor?
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- That is correct.
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Now you spent
about an hour with him.
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Yes I did.
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Now do you find this unusual?
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Absolutely, my family physician
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I'm lucky to spend 15
minutes with him twice a year!
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So this is
tremendous personal attention,
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and attention to every detail
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of my... shall we say
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lack of health,
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so we can
address it successfully
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Now we do have a crew
of wonderful doctors here,
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we have Dr. Ing, who
is the medical director,
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Dr. DeRose just
joined us recently,
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in the last two
months I believe,
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and then Dr. Lukens.
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And so you're following
the advice of Dr. DeRose,
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you're getting healthier,
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your cholesterol
levels have dropped.
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- Right.
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Your walking,
again I think that's
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phenomenal that
you're able to walk that far.
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Tell us about
the episode you had,
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where your intestines started to
come through your stomach wall.
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I had an operation 35 years ago
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for gall bladder, and well
they took my appendix out too.
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Unfortunately the stitches
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didn't hold and
a hernia resulted
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and then my stomach migrated
into the area of the hernia.
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And this past summer
I talked to a surgeon,
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and after running tests on me,
he advised against an operation.
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So...
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- So my only choice is
to lose weight and exercise.
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How many pounds
do you have to lose?
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I lost seven pounds, but I
think it's just the beginning,
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This program here is a
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prelude to many
more pounds to lose.
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Now you have family that
have come through the program.
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Right,
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I had a niece and her husband,
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who were extremely successful,
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the husband lost
about 20-some pounds,
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and she has
really come a long way
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from where she was
to today's situation.
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I know and I
remember Dian very well.
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She's going to be
here today I understand.
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She will be here
tonight at our banquet,
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and they will pick me up
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and take me to their home,
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and I'll spend
some time with them.
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So tell us,
tell the viewers now,
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what are you going to
do from this day forward?
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Obviously you're leaving
tonight or tomorrow morning...
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Well I'm leaving
tomorrow for San Jose,
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where I'll spend
the next four days with
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my daughter and
husband and grand-kids.
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And I am leaving
Tuesday to go back home.
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Too? - Missouri.
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And I will...
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attempt to sell my house,
and liquidate my belongings,
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and move over to San Jose.
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Ok, do you feel
you have the tools
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to continue on
with this program?
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Absolutely, I think that
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what the program did
for me was phenomenal,
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and I now know which way
to go to improve my health.
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Amen.
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What was your
favorite part of the program?
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I would say I
liked the hydrotherapy,
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it was
excellent, something that...
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- Everybody seems to
like the hydro-therapy!
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but very enjoyable, I
hadn't had sauna before,
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and now I enjoy it very much.
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So for the
viewers, the hydro-therapy
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is along with
the massage therapy,
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where we'll take guests,
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in this case Norman,
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he experienced several new
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visits to the massage and
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the hydro being water therapy,
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where we do contrasting showers,
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and you even had the
sauna this trip right?
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Right.
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He likes the sauna!
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I love that sauna,
it's so warm in there.
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- So do I.
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Incidentally, today
it's snowing outside
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so the sauna
would be a nice treat!
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- Yes, nice treat.
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Well Norman,
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I'm going to just pray that
everything works out for you,
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I want to keep
in contact with you,
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I know Dr. DeRose will.
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- Right.
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Any last
comments for our viewers?
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I enjoyed very
much this experience,
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and I could recommend it
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to anyone who has any
need to improve themselves.
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Great.
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Thank you so
much for joining us.
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Thank you for having me.
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God Bless you. - Thank you.
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And thank you folks, I
hope you enjoyed this program,
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and don't go away
because we're going to have
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Dr. DeRose with
us in just a moment.
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Well, you've done very well.
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Do you have diabetes,
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heart disease,
high blood pressure,
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or do you weigh too much?
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Hi, my name is Dr. Ing,
and I'd like to tell you
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about our 18-day
NEWSTART lifestyle program.
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It includes a
comprehensive medical
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evaluation with
laboratory studies and an
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exercise stress test,
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physician consultations,
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culinary school,
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and an opportunity
to walk on beautiful
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trails in the
foothills of the Sierras.
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Your health is one of the most
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important things
that you have. Don't wait.
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Give us a call.
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Or visit our website.
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Welcome back
friends, and as I promised--
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Dr. David DeRose,
how are you Doctor?
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Hey, great, good
to be with you Ron.
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It's great to see you!
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It's great to be here at Weimar,
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and it's great to see
what the Lord's been doing
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just in the couple of
months that I've been here.
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Yes, and tell us, tell the
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viewers Doctor
where you're from.
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I know a lot of people out there
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know Dr. DeRose,
but maybe you can tell
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us a little bit
about your background.
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Well a lot of
people know me because I've
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traveled around a lot.
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I've worked with a number of
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lifestyle
centers over the years,
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I've done a number
of programs with 3ABN.
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And most recently
I've been running a medical
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health related
consulting practice,
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doing a lot of health
media, health education.
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But also pastoring half time in
northern New England, and Maine,
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and the Lord has
redirected me back
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to get involved
in clinical medicine
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as well as continuing my
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teaching and media
work here at Weimar.
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Well we're going to
have to find a church
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nearby so you can
pastor a little bit too!
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We don't want you to get lonely!
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Ok, well we'll see how
the Lord orchestrates that.
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Right now I've been
having plenty of opportunities
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to minister, whether
it's in the NEWSTART program,
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we have the privilege
of working with our guests,
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we don't push things on them,
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but we try to be sensitive
to their spiritual needs.
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It's really much more of
a pastoral work if you will,
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than typical medical practice,
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because we're
interested in the whole person,
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their spiritual needs,
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We're, as physicians,
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ministering on that level
as well as working with our
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chaplain and others who have a
focus on that level of ministry.
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Well we're so
glad that you're here,
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and that you've
chosen to be here
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at Weimar,
especially our NEWSTART program,
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I know the college students
speak very highly of you.
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Right now I want
to talk about Norman,
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Stormin Norman!
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When I first met Norm,
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as you probably are aware,
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he seemed very
down, and very depressed.
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And he shared
with me, off camera,
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that his loss of
his wife of 45 years
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just hurt him very deeply.
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But I see a change,
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and I know a lot
of that, thank God,
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that spiritualness
that comes from our doctors
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and our chaplain,
tell us a little from
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your perspective
Doctor, what you saw happen?
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You know, we realize today when
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it comes to
mental health issues,
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whether a person has a
frank mental health disorder,
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or whether their
just going through some
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of the normal
struggles we have in life,
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Norman didn't
come... he didn't tell me
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he came to deal
specifically with any of
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those issues
although he shared with me
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as he shared on
camera in the last segment
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about that
significant loss that he had.
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But what we know is,
where in the past many
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health professionals
would say, Ok that's your mind,
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we've got to
deal with your mind,
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You need counseling,
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you need to go to a
grief recovery class.
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And I'm not minimizing
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how God has used those
things, even among people that
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may not have acknowledged
God's leadership in the process.
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But at the same time, we're
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realizing today Ron
that we're whole people
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and that when you
start addressing your diet,
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when you start
addressing your exercise habits,
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in addition to the
spiritual and the mental things
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you just have this powerful
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combination that moves
people in quantum leaps
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really as far as improvement.
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Dr. Nedley has shown this with
his depression recovery program.
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So it's this
comprehensive approach,
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and this is what we're
trying to do at Weimar.
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So everyone that comes through
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many people say, Look
I'm here to lose weight,
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or, I'm here for my diabetes,
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or I'm here for
my heart disease,
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but regardless of
what they're dealing with,
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all of us have
mental, spiritual issues.
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This is not something
again that we push on people,
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but when we deal with the whole
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person often
these things come out,
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and even if the person
doesn't ever volunteer anything,
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we find as they get
on that better lifestyle,
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they get all these
tremendous benefits on a mental
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and spiritual level, as
well as the physical level.
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In other words,
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What I just
heard you say is that
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sometimes people don't
even know their depressed,
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and they come to our program,
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and before you
know it, we see them
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come out of this
shell, if you will.
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And I saw that in
Norman, and I was so
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moved by it,
because I felt for him,
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you know how we do.
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So, tell us,
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as a doctor,
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what do you look for when
you interview these guests,
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or patients as you call them?
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Well we do a very
comprehensive interview process,
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or history as we call
it in the medical field.
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We have people complete
a very detailed database.
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Is that part of the physical?
What we know as the physical?
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Well, normally if someone comes
in for a physical to a doctor,
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a doctor who is doing
a really comprehensive
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physical will also do
a comprehensive history.
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And when I was in medical
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school they
shared the dictum with us
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that about 90
percent of diagnoses
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are actually
made in the history,
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not in the physical.
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So when you hear
the patient's story,
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when you hear
about their background.
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And when I speak about
a comprehensive history,
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here at Weimar we actually
do a spiritual history as well.
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And by the way, this
is not something that's
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happening in just
Christian establishments.
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In the medical field as a whole,
we're realizing more and more
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that we've been
negligent in looking at
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various components of
someone's medical history.
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Spiritual history
is very important,
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so we include a
spiritual history,
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a mental health history
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so a person will complete all
this before coming to Weimar.
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The physicians will review that,
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and then when we sit
with the individual patient
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we will discuss areas with them
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based on the
responses they gave us.
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So we get a
very complete idea of
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what's happened
throughout their life
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as far as medical
diagnoses as far as surgeries,
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but also as far as
significant life events,
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losses, stresses,
things of that nature.
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Now I want to address the hour
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that you spent with him prior
to him coming on the program.
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I find that that is
unusual. Is it unusual here at
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Weimar that
doctors spend an hour...
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I mean at one time?
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Well the philosophy
we have here is really
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taking the time with
our patients that they need.
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And if we have a patient
scheduled for an hour block,
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we spend an hour with them.
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We typically schedule our
initial visits for an hour.
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Subsequent visits we
schedule for a half hour.
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So if a person needs
more than that half hour time,
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if they have
flexibility in their schedule,
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and I in mine, we can just
continue the visit right then.
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If we're scheduled more tightly,
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we'll ask the
person to come back.
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I'll say, I know
we didn't finish this,
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let me reconnect with you.
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So the focus is really unlike
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commercialized medicine,
which today it's how many people
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you can get through the door
and out and generate that bill.
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Here it's really
Jesus' model of ministry,
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where he takes the
time that people need,
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if a person needs
more time they have that,
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If a person
doesn't need the time,
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we don't seatbelt
them into the chair
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and say, You got
to be here for an hour
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because this is what
we do here at Weimar!
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If they've got a
ten minute concern,
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and their doing well
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we might go for a walk
with them during that time.
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And by the way, I might
add that we don't charge guests
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if they stay an
extra half hour or hour.
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you don't have the
nurse outside handing
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them a bill as they
walk back to their door!
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It is, it's a wonderful system
because of the package price,
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so someone knows when
they come what the expense is.
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And all the medical
visits are included in that,
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whether I spend an hour
everyday with a patient,
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or whether it's ten
minutes every other day.
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- Yes.
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Now in regards to any
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medications that
Norman was taking,
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was he able to
come off any of these?
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Or had he reduced medication?
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How do you go about
that? That's another question
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guests ask, actually I
receive in phone calls.
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How do we take
people off of medication?
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You don't say, Stop...
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Well it's an
interesting dynamic,
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those of us who like
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myself have worked in
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lifestyle
medicine for many years,
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I mean although I'm new here to
Weimar as I mentioned earlier,
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I've worked in these kind of
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programs off and
on for some 25 years.
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So what we know, is
that lifestyle is so powerful
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when it comes to blood pressure,
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when it comes to blood sugar,
when it comes to cholesterol,
00:19:47.49\00:19:50.21
that some of those
drugs that a person is using,
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if we don't stop them,
if we're not very vigilant,
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they'll get in trouble early on.
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Now cholesterol medications
00:19:58.18\00:20:00.03
are not dangerous if we
don't stop them quick enough.
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I mean they'll just
have a very low cholesterol.
00:20:02.39\00:20:04.60
But to have a
very very low blood
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pressure is
something that can kill you!
00:20:07.28\00:20:09.75
So when someone is on
blood pressure medicines we
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have to monitor their
blood pressure carefully...
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- So you reduce
the medication. -
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Exactly, and we reduce the
medications. Many people today
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are on combination
drugs for blood pressure.
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They may think
they're just taking a single
00:20:22.72\00:20:24.87
medication but it's
actually one or it's actually
00:20:24.88\00:20:27.36
a combination of maybe two
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sometimes three
medications, often two,
00:20:29.22\00:20:31.24
that are together,
so we have to split
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those out
sometimes, stop one of them,
00:20:33.64\00:20:35.72
and start them
on another it's by
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giving them
another prescription.
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It's the same with blood sugar.
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Many of the blood
sugar pills today,
00:20:41.12\00:20:42.63
although someone thinks
they're just taking one drug
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they may be taking a
00:20:44.85\00:20:46.03
combination pill
that has two drugs.
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And one of those
drugs is very dangerous
00:20:47.87\00:20:50.18
as far as
dangerously lowering blood sugar
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if we don't make adjustments.
00:20:52.51\00:20:53.60
So we have to
separate the drugs,
00:20:53.75\00:20:55.69
and then maybe stop one,
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and then continue the
other or gradually decrease it.
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Well I find that
very interesting.
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In my case I was taking
00:21:02.61\00:21:04.00
two blood pressure medications,
00:21:04.39\00:21:06.21
one was to make sure that the
00:21:06.66\00:21:08.33
first one
didn't ruin my kidneys.
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So in closing do you
have any last minute thoughts?
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I guess what I
would say is that the
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Weimar program is
designed for individuals.
00:21:16.88\00:21:19.09
We would love to help
you and share this very
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personalized approach
modeled after Jesus' ministry.
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Dr. DeRose, thank you
for joining us on our set.
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And thank you
folks, don't go away
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we got a tip for
you in just a second.
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Hello and welcome
to NEWSTART at HOME,
00:21:46.51\00:21:48.30
I'm your host Don Mackintosh,
00:21:48.31\00:21:49.60
and today we're
delighted to have you with us,
00:21:49.75\00:21:51.54
but we're also delighted
to have Dr. David DeRose.
00:21:51.69\00:21:54.54
He's a specialist
in internal medicine,
00:21:54.63\00:21:56.39
and, welcome to the program.
00:21:56.63\00:21:58.15
Great to be with you Don.
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And today we're going
to be talking about water.
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Why is it that we
should be interested in water?
00:22:03.24\00:22:05.51
Where should we get
it? When should we get it?
00:22:05.52\00:22:07.69
And all those things.
00:22:07.70\00:22:08.69
I mean for a lot of people water
00:22:08.81\00:22:10.33
sounds like a
very mundane subject.
00:22:10.34\00:22:11.84
I mean it's all around
us, it comes out of the sky!
00:22:12.09\00:22:15.21
Really! I mean people say water!
00:22:15.69\00:22:19.30
But when I was
a medical student,
00:22:19.42\00:22:21.33
nobody was really catching
on to the values of water.
00:22:21.42\00:22:25.39
Many of my classmates
kind of made fun of me
00:22:25.63\00:22:28.42
because I actually used to
carry a water bottle with me.
00:22:28.43\00:22:31.51
I mean it was radical!
00:22:31.66\00:22:32.87
Now lots of people
carry water bottles.
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Sure, because we're
starting to recognize that
00:22:34.48\00:22:36.48
this is something that's
got profound health benefits.
00:22:36.49\00:22:38.78
Don, I don't need to
review for today our viewers
00:22:39.63\00:22:43.27
some of the heart
protective benefits of water.
00:22:43.48\00:22:45.87
I think many
people have heard that
00:22:46.00\00:22:47.81
ground breaking research that
00:22:48.06\00:22:49.42
came out of
Loma Linda University
00:22:49.43\00:22:51.03
oh probably about
ten years ago now,
00:22:51.36\00:22:53.39
where they actually found
that those who drank more water,
00:22:53.57\00:22:56.63
actually had substantially
less heart disease.
00:22:56.75\00:22:59.63
Yes, right. So what
are we going to talk
00:22:59.66\00:23:01.36
about since we're
not going to cover that?
00:23:01.37\00:23:03.12
We're going to talk about
water and weight reduction.
00:23:03.15\00:23:06.63
Weight reduction! I've always
00:23:07.03\00:23:08.66
heard that it
increases your weight.
00:23:08.67\00:23:10.72
Well sure, water has weight,
00:23:11.21\00:23:13.09
water weighs about a
pound for about a pint of water.
00:23:13.54\00:23:16.39
So if I'm standing on the scale,
00:23:16.60\00:23:18.45
I weight myself, then I
00:23:18.69\00:23:20.03
quickly chug down
two pints of water,
00:23:20.04\00:23:21.87
I'll weigh about two pints more.
00:23:21.88\00:23:23.54
But your body doesn't
just hold onto all that water.
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No it gets rid of it.
00:23:27.07\00:23:28.04
It gets rid of it, and there's
00:23:28.05\00:23:29.30
some fascinating
things that happen
00:23:29.31\00:23:30.69
when you drink more pure water.
00:23:30.84\00:23:33.06
First of all, pure
water has no sodium in it.
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So what do you mean pure
water? Where would I get that?
00:23:36.39\00:23:38.69
You can get it from a spring,
00:23:39.24\00:23:40.48
especially if it
has no sodium in it.
00:23:40.66\00:23:42.45
You can get it from your faucet,
00:23:42.46\00:23:45.18
especially if you
use reverse osmosis,
00:23:45.19\00:23:48.30
if you have a water
softener, because if you have a
00:23:48.69\00:23:51.18
water softener that's going to
be putting salt into the water
00:23:51.19\00:23:54.03
Well salt follows
water, or water follows salt,
00:23:54.24\00:23:56.60
and if you don't have
that then you lose weight.
00:23:56.61\00:23:59.06
Actually that's part of
it, you're exactly right.
00:23:59.75\00:24:01.69
When you drink
more water what happens
00:24:01.81\00:24:03.69
is first of all you
tank up your system,
00:24:03.70\00:24:05.63
so if you're dehydrated
which many Americans are,
00:24:05.64\00:24:08.03
they're walking
around not at optimal
00:24:08.15\00:24:10.63
brain functioning
because they're dehydrated.
00:24:10.64\00:24:13.63
They may tend to get a little
light headed when they stand up,
00:24:14.39\00:24:16.81
a number of problems can
occur with lack of water intake.
00:24:17.21\00:24:20.48
Once you get hydrated though,
00:24:20.75\00:24:22.27
the excess water
you take in actually is
00:24:22.57\00:24:24.69
processed through the
kidneys, and comes out.
00:24:24.70\00:24:27.12
So then that
causes you to lose weight?
00:24:27.75\00:24:29.45
Or what is it that
causes you to lose weight.
00:24:29.46\00:24:31.33
What it does is, the way the
Lord has designed our kidneys,
00:24:31.48\00:24:35.33
is every time we void water,
00:24:35.34\00:24:37.12
we actually lose
some sodium with it.
00:24:38.06\00:24:40.09
- Ok.
00:24:40.10\00:24:41.15
And so it actually
takes sodium out of the body,
00:24:41.18\00:24:43.72
pulls more water with it.
00:24:44.15\00:24:45.48
So for a person that has
edema, swelling of the legs,
00:24:45.69\00:24:48.12
provided they don't
have... - Heart disease.
00:24:48.21\00:24:50.12
right heart disease or
kidney failure, stuff like that.
00:24:50.24\00:24:53.06
If they don't
have those problems,
00:24:53.39\00:24:55.30
just garden variety edema,
00:24:55.31\00:24:56.66
drinking more water
can actually decrease
00:24:56.81\00:24:59.54
the problems with
fluid build-up because
00:24:59.75\00:25:01.69
it pulls excess
water out of the system.
00:25:01.70\00:25:03.57
- Ok.
00:25:03.58\00:25:04.55
So this is one way
that water drinking can help
00:25:04.56\00:25:06.72
someone lose some weight
if they're retaining fluid.
00:25:06.73\00:25:09.27
Ok, so we know why, another
00:25:10.00\00:25:11.30
reason why-- to
help us lose weight.
00:25:11.31\00:25:13.03
When should we
be drinking water?
00:25:13.45\00:25:14.78
Well don't jump
ahead on too much!
00:25:14.79\00:25:16.84
Because you've got
something else about the water?
00:25:17.03\00:25:18.87
Yes, because drinking water,
some of the latest research,
00:25:19.00\00:25:21.48
and I've got a
study right here Don,
00:25:21.49\00:25:23.09
it's actually
showing us that when
00:25:23.48\00:25:25.63
you drink more
water, it stimulates
00:25:25.64\00:25:27.78
metabolic receptors in the body
00:25:28.39\00:25:31.09
that actually raises
00:25:31.30\00:25:34.06
body processes,
raises metabolism.
00:25:34.51\00:25:36.21
So it thinks
you're going to get more,
00:25:36.66\00:25:38.06
but you don't get it,
00:25:38.12\00:25:39.12
you just got the water and
it starts burning more off.
00:25:39.13\00:25:41.24
You burn more calories.
00:25:41.39\00:25:42.45
So water
drinking is very positive,
00:25:42.46\00:25:44.06
even room temperature
water, doesn't have to be cold,
00:25:44.07\00:25:46.42
doesn't have to be warmed up.
00:25:46.43\00:25:47.66
So, it makes
your metabolism go up,
00:25:48.00\00:25:50.15
what about a diabetic?
00:25:50.16\00:25:51.45
is that going to be a problem?
00:25:51.46\00:25:53.27
Actually
typically not, this would be
00:25:53.39\00:25:55.03
beneficial for
the diabetic as well.
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So it tends to ensure
that you don't over-eat when
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you're well hydrated,
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when you come
to sit at the meal,
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it also helps you
trim down some pounds.
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- We got about 40 seconds left.
When should we drink this water?
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Water is best
drunk between meals,
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not with meals,
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that tends to interfere
with the digestive process,
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and especially if you have
reflux you'll get into problems.
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Amount of water to drink?
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That was on your
mind next wasn't it?
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- Yes - Ok!
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We recommend one ounce
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for every two pounds of weight.
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as a general rule of thumb.
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You weight 200 pounds,
drink 100 ounces a day.
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We've been talking
with Dr. David DeRose,
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We've had some
good news about water,
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it can actually
help you lose weight,
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it does a lot of
other great things as well.
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We're glad you've joined us.
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If you want more
information, go to:
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We're glad you joined
us as well Dr. DeRose.
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- Thank you.
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Thanks and we'll
see you again next time.
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Modern views of
evolution stem all the way
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back to theories
developed in the mid 1800s.
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Out of the same time
period came ideas that shape
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our educational system today.
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The common school
movement for example,
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saw schools more like a factory,
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with students blindly memorizing
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instruction rather than
thinking for themselves.
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Their curriculum was
rigid and theoretical,
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instead of being
flexible and practical,
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It was designed to
conform the individual
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into a specific
ideological mold,
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that fit the needs of a old
industrial era, long since past.
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Just like our view of
creation in six literal days,
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we believe the Bible contains
an educational blueprint
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radically different
from the one we see now.
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Well friends,
that's it for today.
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Thank you for joining us.
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Pick up the phone
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