Hi folks, and welcome to
another edition of NEWSTART Now.
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We have a special
guest in our studio today,
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Renee Thomason, who arrived at
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our NEWSTART
program about two weeks ago.
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And I'd like to show you that
clip of when she first got here.
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I've been sick
for about five years.
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I have
fibromyalgia and panic attacks,
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and I also have
seizure-like convulsions
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that are non-epileptic.
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I chose the
NEWSTART program because
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I don't like my
doctor giving me medicines
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and saying, "If
you take this medicine
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and it makes you better,
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then that's what you have.
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But if it doesn't work,
then we'll try something else."
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Because every
medicine has some side effect
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that you have to
have another medicine for,
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and it's just
more and more pills.
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I didn't like that.
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I wanted something
that could actually
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help me in the long term
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so I could have a good life.
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I would like to achieve
something that's lasting.
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I've had a lot
of bursts of hope,
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but none of it lasted.
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I just kept having to
start over again and again,
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and I think that here
I could start something
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that could last longer.
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Hi friends, welcome back.
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In our studio, Renee.
How are you, young lady?
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Hello. - You look so wonderful!
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Well thank you.
I feel wonderful.
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Good.
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First thing I've got to ask you,
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any attacks, any panic?
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Any episodes of any kind?
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You know, I had
no panic attacks.
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I had a couple of
minor seizure-like symptoms,
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but those passed fairly quickly.
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- Nothing severe?
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Yeah, it seems
like they're lessening.
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Wonderful.
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Tell us a little about
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what you've been
doing since you got here,
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like two weeks
ago this past Sunday.
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Well, I've been walking a lot,
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a little more each day,
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eating wonderful food.
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I really enjoy the meals here.
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Hanging out with my doctor.
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And your doctor is Doctor Ing?
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Yes.
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And what do you
mean by 'hanging out'?
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Tell our viewers what
you mean by that, because
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when I used to go to my doctor
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outside in the world,
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I'd spend about 2 or 3 minutes
with him and that was about it.
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How is that differing here?
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Well, the doctor goes for a
walk with me after we're done,
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but I've noticed that
both of the doctors are very
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open and they listen,
they look us in the eye.
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They play with us, joke around,
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but they're also very
serious about helping us.
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- I enjoy it.
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And you feel
you've gotten that help.
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Aside from the walking,
what else do you do here?
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Some of our viewers
have called me and said,
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"Can you please ask
some of the guests to tell
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the viewers what you do."
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I know you do more than walk.
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I know you do a lot
of that, by the way.
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Oh yes. I try to get in like
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4 or 5 different
short walking periods.
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because that's what my
exercise counselor told me to do
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to increase my walking,
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and it's helped so much.
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Last year I tried to get,
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when I was feeling
a little bit better,
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tried to get my walking up,
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and I ended up taking about
3 months to get up to 2 miles.
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And I've been here....
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Let's see, I
got up to 2 miles in
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somewhere near the
end of the first week
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that I was here,
just doing it that way.
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So it's been very helpful.
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Besides walking,
there's cooking classes,
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there's rock painting,
if you want to do that.
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We've had puzzles,
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had a lot of fun hanging
out with the other guests.
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There's lots of lectures,
very informative lectures,
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- Have you made
new friends? Oh yeah.
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With staff, or guests, or both?
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Oh, both, definitely both.
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I've had tours of the schools.
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because I'm a teacher,
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and so I wanted to
see what they were like.
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And what do you
think of our schools?
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Well, I think they'd be
more fun with the kids in them,
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since I toured them without.
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Without. The kids
weren't there at the time.
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And for the
viewers, we have a college,
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we have an academy,
and we have a grade school.
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And the grade
school just recently
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started up a few months back.
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Okay, so you've
been to cooking classes,
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you've been walking,
you've been to see the doctor,
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you're painting some rocks...
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You forgot about hydrotherapy.
- Oh, and hydrotherapy!
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That's my favorite!
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I don't know how
I forgot that one.
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How could you forget that?
That was one of my favorites.
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It is, and I think
that's one of the ones that
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has helped me a lot
as far as pain reduction.
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And where were
you feeling this pain?
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Now tell us a little...
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I know you were
telling me something about
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the numbness in your
fingers and your feet.
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When I was telling you about
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the sores and the
numbness in my hands and feet,
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I didn't tell you
that I only realized those
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after the pain went away.
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You know how they have a pain
scale at the doctor's office
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that goes from, you know...
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One is you feel hardly any pain,
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and 9 or 10 is you
can't hardly bear it anymore.
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Well, I was
probably when I got here
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somewhere around a 6
or a 7 on the pain scale.
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The main, most
painful areas were usually
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my neck and shoulders and back.
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I had a really bad
spot in my low back.
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But as I started
walking we found that
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I would start to ache
really bad in my legs.
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And that was one of the reasons
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why I had to
stop my stress test.
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And through the
hydro treatments...
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When they heard
that the walking hurt,
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they just gave me a
different kind of a treatment.
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They did this thing
called leg contrasts.
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And that was amazing.
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The first time I had a hydro,
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it lasted for about
15 minutes that I was
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extremely lowered in pain.
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I was probably down at a 4.
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And then it came back.
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And then each
time it went longer
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and longer that I had less pain.
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And now, if I had to tell
you what my pain scale was,
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do you think you could guess?
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No. What is it?
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Today it's about a 1 or a 2.
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Really? Well, good.
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So now I can shake your hand
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and squeeze it
and you'll feel it.
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Yes, I will feel it today!
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Because now that I
realize there's no pain,
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now I'm seeing that some of
the other things are going away,
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like I'm starting to
get more feeling back,
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being able to touch something
and know that it's hot.
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It's a good thing,
and not burning yourself.
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Alright, tell us about...
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because a little birdie told
me about your treadmill test,
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It was about 5 minutes
long when you got here.
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Tell us about the
treadmill you did yesterday.
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Well, yesterday I
went 9 minutes 30 seconds.
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Nine minutes...and you could
have went further you told me,
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except they were
taking it to the next level.
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Yeah, the last 30 seconds was
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the third level
of the stress test.
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Just people that have really
good health go on that far.
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It was hard for me to keep up,
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like my legs were all moving,
and kind of sliding backwards.
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That's amazing!
Usually you see people go
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maybe two or
three minutes longer.
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You went almost a
hundred percent more
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than the first go-around.
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Yeah. It's like
four minutes longer.
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So all these things are
lending to this healing process.
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And you look so
good. Your eyes are clear,
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you seem so happy.
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Of course I'm
happy. I feel good!
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Yeah, you feel good!
Isn't that wonderful?
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Praise God.
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Well, we're just about
done with our interview,
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but I wanted to talk about
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what you're going to
do when you get home.
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You live in
Idaho, right? - I do.
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Okay. What's your plan of
action when you leave here?
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Well, I want to
clean out the refrigerator.
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ēlaughterŃ That's a must.
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Oh, it is. I'll probably...
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I live with my brother, so
I will probably need to make
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a "my" side and a "his" side
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if he doesn't want to
do the diet that I'm on,
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because I'm doing
the prescribed vegan,
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no oil, half a teaspoon of salt,
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and so... - Good, good.
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That will take a
little bit of reorganizing.
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You've been looking for
the hidden oils and such?
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Yeah, I thought that I was
eating healthy before I came,
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and I've learned
a lot being here.
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That's wonderful.
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So are you going to teach
your brother this new lifestyle?
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If he wants to
know. - Okay, alright.
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Now what did we leave out?
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Who, of all the
people that you met here,
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who do you think
you're going to miss the most?
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I don't know.
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It would be somewhere
between my massage therapist
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and the chaplain.
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We do have a
chaplain, and we left her out.
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The guests get to
interview with her,
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and open their hearts to her,
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and she's a wonderful lady.
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I'm so pleased
you got to meet her.
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But the two of those folks,
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you got some pretty good
people to compete with there!
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Yeah. I do have their
phone numbers, emails,
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that kind of thing,
so I can keep in contact.
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Renee, thank you so much
for joining us on the set,
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My prayer is that
you continue to get well.
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- Thank you. Yeah.
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And thank you for
joining us, folks,
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but don't go away. We
have a surprise for you
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with Doctor Ing
joining us in just a moment.
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Well, you've done very well.
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Do you have diabetes,
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heart disease,
high blood pressure,
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or do you weigh too much?
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Hi, my name is Doctor
Ing, and I'd like to tell you
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about our 18-day
NEWSTART lifestyle program.
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It includes a
comprehensive medical evaluation
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with laboratory studies
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and an exercise stress test,
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physician consultations,
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culinary school,
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and an opportunity to
walk on beautiful trails
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in the foothills of the Sierras.
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Your health is one of the most
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important things
that you have. Don't wait.
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Give us a call at:
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Or visit our website:
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Welcome back,
friends, and as I promised,
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we have Dr. Clarence Ing.
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How are you,
Doctor? - Great, Ron.
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It's always good to
see you. Good to be here.
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Now, Doctor Ing, you are the
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medical director here at
the NEWSTART program at Weimar.
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Yes, I am.
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How long have you been here?
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Well, I've been
here more than 12 years,
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and it's been an
amazing and awesome 12 years,
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seeing how
people come here feeling
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less than well, sick and tired.
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Sometimes they say,
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"Are you sick and tired
of being sick and tired?"
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They say, "Well
how did you know?"
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So I say, well, many
people come here like that,
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and I've seen that
transformation that takes place
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as they change their lifestyles
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and learn to eat
properly and exercise,
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and the blessings of God.
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Because really,
truly, He is the source
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of all healing and restoration.
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- Amen.
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Now I know you were
somewhere before here.
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Was that Singapore, where
you did lifestyle in Singapore?
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Right. We were in
Singapore between 1982 and 1997.
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Had a marvelous time there
working with the people there.
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introducing them
to the same concepts
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and seeing similar results.
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So you've had 30 years of
doing this kind of medicine.
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Yeah. Actually, probably now 32,
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because I started
doing this in 1978,
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and it's been a very
rewarding experience.
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I can't thank
the Lord enough for
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opening my vision to see this,
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in addition to ophthalmology,
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because I enjoy ophthalmology.
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I know. You've checked my
eyes on several occasions.
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And I want to
get right into this
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interview that
we did with Renee.
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Tell us a little bit
about how you, as a doctor,
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were able to help
facilitate her change.
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Well, fibromyalgia
is a condition which,
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when I went to medical school,
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we never heard about.
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And in the last 20 or so years,
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20 to 25 years, it's something
that has been recognized.
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Called it the
fibromyalgia syndrome I guess,
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and that's because the
patients, they have pain,
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and the pain is real.
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And they check and
examine the patients,
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and you look for
physical causes of the pain,
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and they rule out
all the possible causes.
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The patients still have pain,
and they really haven't found
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what we call any
physical or organic cause.
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But when we work
with patients like this
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in our experience here
at Weimar, we've found that
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with the NEWSTART-type program,
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nutrition, exercise, water,
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sunshine, temperance, air,
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rest, and trust in God,
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and nutrition
being a plant-based diet,
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whole plant foods,
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that with the
hydrotherapy and the massage
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and the gentle exercise,
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there's significant
dramatic improvement.
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We see it time and time again.
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Patients come here with many
different types of medications,
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and so much pain,
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and by the time they get
to the end of the program,
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the pain is
either gone or it's...
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The patients are just
like, they're walking,
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and they may have a
very little bit left.
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It's just remarkable when you
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follow the rules of health
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and you obey
the rules of health,
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that you can confidently
ask the Lord, say, "Lord,
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please provide the blessings
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that come with
following Your rules."
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And we see it.
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And the people are just
overjoyed with the response.
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You can see that in Renee!
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I mean, when I first met her
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during our first evening,
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when I get to meet the
guests and we talk to them
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and we give a few
examples of patients,
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she sat in the back of the room
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and she was there very quiet,
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and she raised her
hand and said, "Well,
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have you had any experience
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working with
people with fibromyalgia?"
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because this was her concern.
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And I said, "Yes, we have."
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And the really
wonderful thing about it is
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that the patients who've
come here with fibromyalgia,
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with this type of approach,
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when they leave, like you said,
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80 to 90 percent of
them have almost no pain,
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and the others, it's
so dramatically reduced
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they're just
overjoyed and really very happy.
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And again, we've
seen this happen to her.
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It's slow, but
sure, steady progress.
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Well, she looks
like a different person.
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- Oh, she is! Yeah,
just totally different.
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She's got a
radiant smile on her face,
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And when they get here I said,
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"Would you scale your pain?
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Zero is no pain, ten is
the worst pain you imagine.
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What was your pain level?"
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And so she would
do that, and I think
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she said hers was
like, between 7 and 8.
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most of the time.
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And I said, "How about now?"
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And she said,
"Well, maybe it's 1 or 2.
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Compared to what it was
before it's almost nothing!"
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She said, "I really
don't even notice it!"
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And it's true.
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Now, what
about... I want to talk--
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because we don't
have a lot of time left,
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but I want to talk
briefly about the seizure.
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Were you able to identify
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in any way, was that seizure
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part of a panic attack?
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Were they related? - We
really don't know, because
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I don't know that she's ever
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had a work-up to evaluate
whether or not she had seizures.
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That was her interpretation.
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So that's something
that hasn't been determined,
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but as far as she's concerned,
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after she's been
here she really had
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essentially nothing like that.
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I think maybe
she had one episode,
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but since then she's
done very, very well.
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Now I know panic
attacks are very real
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out there in the world.
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Maybe they are
cousins to depression or such,
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but is there something you
can tell us about panic attacks?
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First of all, how is she
doing with panic attacks?
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Secondly, what we can
share with our viewers
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that may assist them.
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Well, the only one that I
know of that she experienced
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was right when she
initially came here.
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That was kind of my
introduction to her.
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And I saw this individual,
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so I asked what happened,
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and later on it was related
to me that this individual
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was having a panic attack,
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and that was it.
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After she's been here
now the two and a half weeks,
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she's never had another one
and she's done wonderfully well.
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Panic attacks I guess
are a person's reaction to
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something that
causes stress or anxiety,
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and that's the response to it.
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And the depression. Has she
had any bouts of depression?
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She didn't look depressed
to me 10 minutes ago here!
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No, no.
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I mean, many people have
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mild forms of
depression and so on,
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but in my interaction with her
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that wasn't observable,
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Now, I have a question,
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because I have a belief
about our food that we eat.
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I am a total vegan,
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meaning I have no
animal product to my knowledge.
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I don't choose to have it.
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But I've seen in
my own experience
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that when I came
here I was depressed.
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That depression went away
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when I stopped drinking alcohol,
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I stopped eating meat,
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stopped eating the
Standard Amerian Diet,
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as you call, SAD.
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Is there a relationship
with food and depression?
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There may be,
but there's probably
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even a stronger relationship
with exercise and activity.
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Because exercise is a
natural anti-depressant.
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It's also a
natural tranquilizer.
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So going back to Renee,
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a regular exercise program is
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going to help
her to be more calm,
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less problem with
the panic attacks.
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And if she
happens to be depressed,
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it's a natural anti-depressant.
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It works much better
than any anti-depressant.
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So exercise is a
really important part
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of a person's
overall health program.
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We hear about the runner's high,
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and you're
referring to those endorphins
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that the brain releases,
00:19:59.87\00:20:01.36
and that
actually is like an opiate
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that makes our body feel better?
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Well, I don't know
if exercise does...
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I know running does that.
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But the general walking
does something very good
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which helps to
promote well-being,
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and that's important.
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Doctor Ing, I want to thank you
for joining us in our studio.
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And folks, thank
you for joining us.
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Don't go away.
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We have an important
message for you following.
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Hi, and thank you
for joining us today.
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Today we have Doctor DeRose,
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and I am very excited to hear
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what he has to
share with us today
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about the Sabbath.
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This study is very
cool, and I can't wait
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to hear what you
have to say about this,
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so let's just jump right in.
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Well Cathy, I
mean, you've got it.
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It is very cool,
to use the vernacular.
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It's a study. It's
not a brand-new study.
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It was published back in 2001.
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A couple of researchers at
Ben-Gurion University in Israel
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looked at mortality rates
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and how they
varied by day of the week.
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Is that making sense so far?
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You know, so Monday,
Tuesday, Wednesday...
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What day of the week?
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Are people dying more
on one day than another?
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The fascinating thing they found
in this study done in Israel
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is that when the Sabbath came,
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Friday and then
Saturday, the Bible Sabbath,
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death rates, mortality
rates, dropped dramatically
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over the hours of the Sabbath,
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and then they
picked back up again
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as you get into
Sunday and Monday.
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That's amazing. -
It really is amazing!
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What's amazing about
it though is this was not
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a study that found
the same relationship
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for everyone in the population.
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Not everyone?
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They only found it
was true of the Jews.
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You see, in Israel,
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the seventh day Sabbath,
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from sundown Friday
to sundown Saturday--
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that Saturday, if you will--
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is a national holiday.
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For everyone!
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So the non-Jews are
off just like the Jews.
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But only the
Jews got the benefit
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as far as this
decrease in mortality
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over the hours of the Sabbath.
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Now, did they cite
all the reasons for this?
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What are they saying?
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Well, you're
exactly right, I mean,
00:22:14.30\00:22:15.36
as a researcher myself
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I'm saying, "Well, come
on, what's going on here?
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Maybe it's because
the Jews aren't working.
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You know, they're
just sitting at home."
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Actually, that wasn't it,
00:22:23.70\00:22:25.12
because they looked
at the causes of death.
00:22:25.27\00:22:27.06
It was not just less accidents.
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Especially things like stroke
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dramatically decreased
over the hours of the Sabbath.
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In fact, as you
look at the data,
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what it suggests is
that there is something
00:22:39.28\00:22:41.84
about setting
aside this sacred day,
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honoring this day
that God has set apart,
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that somehow makes a difference
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as far as your physical health.
00:22:51.75\00:22:54.12
Well, anything to
do with their diet?
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Did it have anything
to do with what they eat?
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Obviously they do eat
something differently.
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Yeah, some of those
things are hard to tease out.
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And you could say, Well,
were they eating differently?
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Is it the social connectiveness?
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In fact, the
researchers talk about
00:23:05.66\00:23:07.75
some of the social
effects and how the Sabbath
00:23:07.76\00:23:10.24
is part and
parcel of Jewish culture.
00:23:10.25\00:23:12.42
But I think it just
begs this fascinating
00:23:12.45\00:23:15.00
dialogue that we're having
00:23:15.01\00:23:16.54
about how medical
researchers are actually finding
00:23:16.55\00:23:19.48
that when a
community, when a people,
00:23:19.69\00:23:22.00
keep the Sabbath,
00:23:22.06\00:23:24.39
there's some kind of
special blessing with it.
00:23:24.69\00:23:26.36
And it goes beyond
just those weekly benefits,
00:23:26.63\00:23:29.81
because other
research has looked,
00:23:29.84\00:23:31.60
for example, at Orthodox Jews,
00:23:31.61\00:23:33.48
and find that they have
substantially lower death rates
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across the board when it comes
to a number of leading killers.
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And again, some
researchers have said,
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"Perhaps some of the
reason, some of the explanation,
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is keeping the
Sabbath, taking a day apart
00:23:45.58\00:23:48.63
and reflecting on
God and spiritual things.
00:23:48.72\00:23:51.18
Stepping back
from the cares of life,
00:23:51.19\00:23:54.84
and really
focusing on the Creator.
00:23:55.15\00:23:57.36
And just having
that time of quiet rest,
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the body knows when to heal.
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It's amazing.
00:24:01.30\00:24:02.48
You know, the interesting
thing about the Sabbath
00:24:02.49\00:24:04.72
from a medical perspective,
00:24:04.73\00:24:06.00
is there are so
many lines of insight
00:24:06.24\00:24:08.00
that suggest that
really God created us
00:24:08.06\00:24:11.21
with a weekly rhythm.
00:24:11.22\00:24:13.42
And if you look at
all the phenomena in life
00:24:13.43\00:24:16.63
by which we measure time,
00:24:16.64\00:24:18.06
whether it's
the day or the month
00:24:18.12\00:24:20.84
or the year, they all
have some astronomical
00:24:21.00\00:24:24.15
planetary significance,
except for the week!
00:24:24.18\00:24:27.63
Societies have
experimented with something
00:24:28.15\00:24:30.21
other than a seven-day week,
00:24:30.22\00:24:31.54
but it just
doesn't seem to work.
00:24:31.66\00:24:33.84
Our Creator knew we
needed a weekly cycle,
00:24:33.87\00:24:37.18
and He knew that we
needed one day off for Him.
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Oh yes. I mean, I wasn't
even raised with the Sabbath,
00:24:41.84\00:24:43.69
but I find that
myself, my body knows
00:24:43.78\00:24:45.72
when to shut
down, when it's tired,
00:24:45.73\00:24:47.33
when it's ready to rest,
and when the Sabbath comes,
00:24:47.34\00:24:49.36
it's just ready.
00:24:49.48\00:24:50.75
Just another interesting
sidelight in this study,
00:24:50.78\00:24:53.24
the title's fascinating,
and I should just mention it,
00:24:53.42\00:24:55.48
because some of our
viewers may be interested
00:24:55.63\00:24:57.87
in picking up a copy of this.
00:24:57.88\00:24:59.36
The title that the
authors gave for this study
00:24:59.51\00:25:02.81
was "Death Rests Awhile."
00:25:02.84\00:25:06.21
"Death Rests Awhile."
00:25:06.45\00:25:08.03
It was published back in
2001 in the journal called
00:25:08.09\00:25:11.00
"Social Science and Medicine."
00:25:11.15\00:25:13.45
But Cathy, one other interesting
dimension to this study,
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young children did not
seem to have the benefit.
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So it seems that
those who are in the most
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stressful years of their life,
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have--you know, the adults,
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as we're dealing with
the real world pressures...
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Kids, you know,
they're kind of isolated.
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Every day...they don't
have to worry about too much.
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Mom and Dad are
taking care of them.
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But we need this
special benefit of the Sabbath.
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Just another
insight from medical science
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saying that God,
when He created us...
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And when God
asks us to "Remember"
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the Sabbath, He was not
just speaking spiritually.
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He knew our
physical needs as well.
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Always. Now how
long ago was this done?
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2001 was the study.
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So, the
interesting thing though is
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they were looking at data
that went back into the 90s.
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They looked at data
over a period of years.
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So it's really a
fairly comprehensive study,
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but it begs the question,
What happens if people today
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are not as
adherent in those practices?
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Maybe they wouldn't
have the same benefit.
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This is amazing.
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This is such wonderful
information that we have,
00:26:13.30\00:26:15.18
and if you would like
more information on this,
00:26:15.19\00:26:17.18
then please
visit our website at:
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Doctor DeRose, thank you
for sharing this with us.
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This is very exciting news.
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Cathy, it's always a
pleasure to look at God's Word
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in light of modern
science. - Amen. Thank you.
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And thank you for joining us.
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Modern views of
evolution stem all the way back
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to theories
developed in the mid-1800s.
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Out of the same time
period came ideas that shape
00:26:42.21\00:26:45.51
our educational system today.
00:26:45.54\00:26:47.69
The Common School
Movement, for example,
00:26:48.33\00:26:50.60
saw schools more like a factory,
00:26:51.06\00:26:52.87
with students blindly
memorizing instruction
00:26:52.88\00:26:55.63
rather than
thinking for themselves.
00:26:55.66\00:26:57.63
Their curriculum was
rigid and theoretical.
00:26:58.18\00:27:00.63
Instead of being
flexible and practical,
00:27:00.64\00:27:03.48
it was designed to
conform the individual
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into a specific ideological mold
00:27:06.21\00:27:08.66
that fit the needs
of an old industrial era
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long since passed.
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Just like our view of
creation in six literal days,
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we believe the Bible contains
an educational blueprint
00:27:17.54\00:27:21.54
radically different
from the one we see now.
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Well friends,
that's it for today,
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but I want to leave you with
a message from Genesis 1:29.
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"And God said,
Behold, I have given you
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every herb bearing seed
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which is upon the
face of all the earth,
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and every tree
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yielding seed.
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To you it shall be for meat."
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Friends, I know that there are
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those of you
who want to be here.
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Pick up that phone
and give us a call at:
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