Participants: Ron Giannoni (Host), Dave Waddell
Series Code: NSN
Program Code: NSN000044
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00:23 Welcome friends,
00:25 and welcome to another edition of NEWSTART Now. 00:27 So you think you want to lose some weight? 00:30 Do you think you're a little overweight? 00:32 Well, I've got news for you. 00:33 I want to show you a clip of Dave Waddell 00:36 who's in our studio right now, 00:38 but when he first arrived. 00:42 Well, I've struggled with weight for 20 years, 00:44 and it wasn't till just the last year and a half 00:50 that I ballooned up to 668 pounds 00:55 is what I weighed yesterday when I first got here. 00:59 So that's the heaviest I've ever been. 01:00 I have all the weight-induced diseases. 01:05 I have diabetes, high blood pressure, 01:07 high cholesterol, sleep apnea -- everything. 01:11 What I want from coming to Weimar is 01:15 a 180-degree lifestyle change. 01:20 I've tried different diets through the years, 01:25 Nutrisystem, all the different fads, 01:29 I've tried the 5 meals a day, 01:31 3 snacks and 3 meals, 01:33 so 6 actually, times you eat a day, 01:35 to stoke the fire, as they say. 01:37 But nothing's worked. 01:39 I need to do something, 01:40 so it's a total lifestyle change that I'm looking for. 01:44 Welcome back, friends, 01:45 and as I promised, Dave Waddell. 01:48 How are you, Dave? - Doing good. 01:50 Good to see you. 01:51 Good to see less of you! 01:53 - Much less. Yes. 01:54 Let's just get right into this, 01:56 because I know the viewers, 01:58 through the first interview they're going, 01:59 "Wow! What a big man." 02:02 Let's just start with the weight. 02:05 How many pounds have you lost? 02:07 A hundred and five on the books. 02:09 A hundred and five on the books! 02:11 And perhaps a little bit more. 02:13 You've actually -- Folks, 02:15 Dave has lost a whole person. 02:18 We have a camera crew here, 02:20 one of which weighs about 90 pounds! 02:22 So he's lost at least her. 02:24 Dave, tell us what else has happened here. 02:30 Well, okay. Yesterday I walked the Half Mile Loop. 02:35 For the first time. 02:37 Now, let me also share to the viewers, 02:40 so this is fair. 02:41 Some people are going, 02:43 "No. He couldn't have lost 105 pounds 02:45 in 18 days." 02:47 You're right. He didn't lose 105 pounds in 18 days. 02:50 Dave has been with us 3 months 02:53 and has gone through 4 sessions, 02:56 back to back sessions. 02:58 And when Dave got here, 02:59 he couldn't even move! He couldn't walk. 03:02 And the Half Mile Loop was a big achievement. 03:06 So let's get back to that Half Mile Loop. 03:09 Yep, did the Half Mile Loop. 03:10 When I first got here I couldn't walk 10 feet 03:12 without stopping and resting. 03:14 So that was big. 03:16 And I'm paying for it today. 03:18 A little sore, but... - A little sore, that's alright! 03:20 But it's worth it. 03:22 That's one of the biggest accomplishments, 03:25 is being able to walk further, exercise, 03:27 and then of course my legs 03:29 are much different now than they were 03:32 when I first got here. 03:33 There's no weeping, there's no... 03:35 They look like legs now. 03:37 We should have got, at the first interview, 03:39 although your legs were wrapped with bandages so that... 03:44 because they were oozing! 03:46 They were actually infected and sore. 03:48 And as I remember, and I described it as being 03:52 black and blue and purple and red, 03:55 all these colors mixed up. 03:56 His legs, they look fantastic, Dave. I'm so happy. 04:00 Yeah, I credit hydro for that, and the low-salt diet. 04:03 Yes! And you took the bandages off, 04:06 Tell us from there, what's happened after that? 04:09 Did you put them back on? 04:10 I expected to have to put them back on. 04:12 I didn't believe the doc when he told me 04:14 that I wouldn't have to put the bandages back on. 04:16 And I took them off the day after the first interview, 04:19 Wednesday, for the first hydro, 04:21 and I didn't have to put them back on. 04:23 In three days you took them off? - Yep. 04:25 And you had been wearing them one year? 04:28 Yeah. Changing them every week for a year. 04:31 Now let's get into some of the medications you were taking, 04:35 or are still taking. 04:36 What kind of... I know you had diabetes, 04:40 and high blood pressure. 04:41 And your respiratory, you had problems there. 04:46 Your heart rate was like 105, 04:49 resting, is that not correct? - Yeah, that's correct. 04:52 Tell us what has happened with these things now. 04:55 Well, the doc was being very cautious because 04:58 he didn't want my heart rate to get very high, 05:02 because one of the medications keeps the heart rate down. 05:05 So we've only gone off half 05:08 of one of the three heart medications, 05:12 So my pulse got down to about 80, 05:15 and then he started weaning me off some of the meds, 05:17 and now it's around 90. 05:19 So when it gets back to 80 we'll take off more of the meds. 05:22 But yeah, my resting was like 105, 107 05:26 when I first got here, every time I took it, 05:28 just getting out of bed. 05:29 And then it... Now it's much less. 05:34 And I went off the cholesterol medication, 05:37 and so I truly saw what my cholesterol was. 05:40 I thought it was under control for years, 05:42 but it was the medication that was keeping it under control. 05:45 It was under control through medication. 05:48 - It shot through the roof when I went off the med. 05:49 And insulin, I probably 05:52 stopped taking shots the third week. 05:55 - You don't take insulin anymore, at all? 05:58 No, I was taking 125 units of quick-acting 06:03 and 80 units of slow-acting 06:05 insulin when I first got here, 06:06 so that's like 200 units. 06:07 I went down to nothing. Every once in a while, 06:09 if I eat a little too much fruit for breakfast, 06:11 I have to give myself a little tiny shot. 06:14 But at least it's not sweets or anything. 06:17 It's good fruit. 06:19 Are you taking any oral medication for diabetes? 06:23 I'm taking one. - Metformin? 06:25 I'm on Actos. - Okay. 06:28 And how many milligrams? 06:30 45 milligrams. - That's practically nothing! 06:33 And we're gonna probably go off that 06:35 once the sugars get down below 200. 06:39 - Good. Good for you. 06:41 So tell us about... 06:43 You know, I've never interviewed a big man like yourself. 06:48 Although, we've had one other individual I recall. 06:52 But tell us, how did your routine... 06:54 How did you possibly fathom 06:57 that coming to this NEWSTART program 07:00 you would gain, or lose in this case, 07:03 anything at all when you couldn't even move! 07:06 I know I saw you walk 10 feet 07:08 and then sit down and rest, gasping for air. 07:12 What possessed you? 07:15 I was ready to try anything. 07:17 I was frustrated. 07:19 I had spend the last year and a half gaining. 07:22 Every time I went to the doctor, every month, 07:24 it would be 15-20 pounds more. 07:26 Every time I went it was just... I was so frustrated. 07:29 I was happy when I went to the doctor 07:31 and only had gained 4 or 5 pounds. 07:32 So I was ready to try the bypass, 07:37 I was ready to do anything. 07:40 And of course, my sister's a nurse anesthetist, 07:44 she said she would never want me on the table 07:47 in the operating room, being my size, 07:50 and do anesthesia. 07:51 Because she said it would be easy to put me to sleep, 07:54 but it would be really hard to wake me up 07:56 once it's done, and real easy for stuff to go wrong. 07:59 So I'm glad I don't have to go the surgery route. 08:01 It was a blessing to be able to come here. 08:06 I learned a total new lifestyle, like I was hoping. 08:10 I mean, everything I had been taught in the past, 08:13 I had to be re-educated. 08:15 - Totally re-educated. It's amazing, isn't it? 08:18 Let me ask you a serious question now. 08:21 For the viewers, for that viewer there that 08:24 perhaps is morbidly obese. 08:27 And morbid to me is-- They said I was morbidly obese 08:30 by being 75 pounds overweight. 08:33 Was there a time when you suffered from depression 08:37 so severe that you gave up and decided 08:40 this was it, you're just going to check out, 08:43 you didn't want to live this life? 08:45 Yeah, the last year and a half, 08:49 I was really depressed. 08:50 In fact, I had to change depression meds 08:53 because I was so bad I couldn't concentrate, 08:55 I couldn't think straight. 08:58 I'd find myself driving through that fast-food restaurant 09:03 line again and thinking, "What am I doing to myself?" 09:05 and I just kept doing it. 09:07 I kept doing it, and it just dragged me down, 09:09 and down, and down. 09:11 Oh yeah, I was very depressed. 09:12 There were many days when I was thinking, 09:15 "I just hope I don't wake up tomorrow morning. 09:17 It'd be easier," you know. 09:19 But now you seem so happy. 09:22 You seem like a young man that has been given hope. 09:26 And you know, we serve a God that's a God of hope. 09:30 And we know that He is here watching over all our guests. 09:34 My prayer is that you continue on this path 09:39 and I get to see less of you more of the time. 09:43 The biggest transformation was the thought patterns. 09:47 I was plagued with constantly thinking of 09:51 Taco Bell burritos and stuff. 09:55 So, it was fun. The Lord took those away. 09:59 All absolutely just gone. - Gone. 10:02 Oh, David, I'm so happy for you, 10:04 and I'm so happy that you got to join us 10:06 and have our viewers witness what you've gone through. 10:10 Thank you for coming into our studio. 10:12 It's my pleasure. 10:13 And I'm going to be seeing less of you more of the time. 10:15 Folks, don't go away, because we have an interview coming up 10:18 with his doctor in just a moment. 10:22 Well, you've done very well. 10:30 Do you have diabetes, 10:32 heart disease, high blood pressure, 10:34 or do you weigh too much? 10:37 Hi, my name is Dr. Ing, and I'd like to tell you 10:39 about our 18-day NEWSTART lifestyle program. 10:43 It includes a comprehensive medical evaluation 10:46 with laboratory studies and an exercise stress test, 10:50 physician consultations, 10:52 culinary school, 10:54 and an opportunity to walk on beautiful trails 10:57 in the foothills of the Sierras. 11:01 Your health is one of the most 11:02 important things that you have. Don't wait. 11:05 Give us a call at: 11:09 Or visit our website: 11:28 Welcome back, friends, and in our studio, Dr. Lukens. 11:32 How are you, my friend? 11:34 Man, I'm really excited about this one because 11:36 this is what it's all about. 11:40 This is the cat's meow, so to speak. 11:43 So, I want to hear from you, Doc, because 11:47 you know, it's not often we see a man this size 11:51 who has reached the end of his rope, 11:53 that is depressed, 11:55 ready to check out. 11:56 In fact he said, "I just pray 11:58 that I don't wake up in the morning." 12:00 What has happened? How could a guy 12:03 lose, first of all, 105 pounds like that, 12:06 and then he's no longer depressed. 12:09 Tell us some of the things that happened, please. 12:12 Well, what's exciting about him is that 12:14 he is a record for us. 12:16 I've been here 20 years, as you know, 12:18 and he's a record for us for weight loss in one week. 12:22 He came in at 668, 12:25 and he lost 30-plus pounds in the first week. 12:29 And the reason why that was so exciting 12:31 is because he didn't want us to unwrap his legs, 12:35 because what happens... 12:37 He has medicated wrappings on his legs. 12:39 When they're unwrapped, 12:43 the legs will start swelling and swelling, 12:46 and then the skin will split, 12:47 and then it takes him weeks and longer for them to heal up, 12:51 and he said, "When you do that, 12:53 it's going to set me way back." 12:55 And I believed that it wouldn't, 12:57 because I had seen this before, but not to the extent 13:00 of losing 30 pounds in one week. 13:02 So we unwrapped him. 13:04 He's never had to have them wrapped again, 13:06 and he's thrilled. 13:08 One of the things though, is that his... 13:11 He was taking his insulin wrong. 13:13 And so he has this really rapid-acting insulin 13:16 along with the long-acting insulin. 13:18 And I believe he's pretty much off of it 13:20 almost all the time now, which is really something. 13:23 And that's the way to go. 13:25 And here's what he was doing. 13:27 In the last year and a half he had gained another 140 pounds. 13:31 And he would check his blood sugar 13:33 like 2 hours after he had eaten, 13:36 and if it was 300 or 400 or whatever, 13:38 then he'd give himself 30, 40, 50 units of insulin, 13:43 and what that was doing was it was forcing 13:46 the body, the cells, to take up that sugar, 13:49 and the fat cells, they were just getting more and more. 13:53 And after you do that long enough, 13:55 you get more fat cells, and so they... 13:57 Was he possibly gaining weight by doing that? 14:00 That's how he gained 140 pounds. - Oh my goodness. 14:03 I thought it was going through the drive-thrus, 14:05 and eating all those burgers and fries. 14:07 Well no, he obviously had to be eating like that, 14:12 but he was doing his insulin wrong. 14:14 And what we want to do is we want to 14:17 have the person, by doing diet and exercise, 14:20 we want their numbers to be normal. 14:22 But the research now-- 14:24 In fact, my family practice magazines showed 14:27 that the more insulin, and the more 14:29 pills and medications that you have to take, 14:32 the quicker you're going to have a heart attack. 14:34 And so he was headed there. 14:37 He could only stand up for about 30 seconds. 14:40 One time he stood up quite a bit longer than that, 14:43 and he just had to sit down. 14:46 So I took his blood pressure, 14:47 and his blood pressure was like 60 over 40. 14:50 If he hadn't found his seat at that time, 14:52 he would have just... - Just passed out. 14:54 Yeah, he would have just collapsed. 14:57 And you know, for a guy that's in his late 30s, 15:00 and he's been teaching and so forth, he's just... 15:03 He was, as they say, he was circling the drain. 15:06 And he didn't know why it was happening. 15:10 The more he was gaining, 15:12 the more depressed he was getting. 15:14 And he was just trying to while away his days 15:19 just trying to figure out anything that he could do 15:22 to keep his mind off of what was happening with him. 15:25 And then when he saw what could happen, 15:30 and I understand-- He probably told you that 15:33 he was able to walk now, and how far he was able to go. 15:37 He walked the Half Mile Loop for the first time. 15:39 - Yeah, that was... - That was wonderful. 15:41 Yeah, and it's up and down. 15:42 Some of the cardiac patients can't 15:44 do that when they first get here. 15:46 So all of these things were going, and 15:49 you know, when a person has tried 15:54 all the things that they can do, 15:56 and they're following what they can, 15:59 and it isn't working, 16:01 then they just figure, "Well, there's nothing I can do, 16:04 and how much longer am I going to live? 16:08 How much longer do I have to live this way?" 16:11 And so, it's really sad. 16:14 You know Doctor, as many of our guests 16:16 have shared with us in the past, 16:18 that they come here and they learn a new lifestyle, 16:22 for David, what he said-- 16:24 and I know you haven't seen that interview yet, 16:27 but what he said was, "Everything I learned was 16:30 180 out from what I was taught on the outside." 16:33 And now he has a whole new lease on life. 16:36 He has hope. 16:38 And you know he may be staying with us even longer. 16:41 Yeah, well that's really good. - That would be great. 16:44 When you have a lifetime of 16:47 you know, being overweight... 16:50 I mean, he's been overweight for probably most of his life. 16:54 And then gaining more and more and more... 16:58 I think he figured, for him, 17:01 a weight of 200-250 would be magic. 17:05 Well you know, I mean, if he's... 17:07 if he's two and a half times that, it's really tough. 17:13 And the thing is, is that 17:15 you know, he still is going to have the work to do, 17:19 and if people are out there and they're saying, you know, 17:22 "Wow! I want to go to Weimar, 17:24 and I want to lose 50 pounds in 1 week," 17:27 you know, each case is different. 17:30 But each person has to work on that area 17:32 so that they don't go back and they don't 17:36 get overcome by those things. 17:38 And that's where our loving heavenly Father 17:41 and our Elder Brother come in, 17:43 and they just say, "Look. You're My child. 17:47 We're all in the same family. 17:49 I'm never going to let go of you. 17:51 The only way that you can not be successful 17:53 is to jerk your hand out of mine 17:57 and go your separate way, 17:59 and I'll be crying if you do that." 18:01 - Yeah, yeah. 18:03 Thanks for sharing that. I know that 18:07 hits you really deep in the heart. 18:09 Let me ask you this, Doctor. 18:12 With a person like that, can you tell our viewers... 18:15 I know there are many, many people out there 18:18 that are morbidly obese 18:19 in a huge way, pardon the pun. 18:23 But is there really... Can anybody do this? 18:28 Or is this just one case of a guy 18:31 that just happened to luck out? 18:33 Well, the American Diabetic, 18:36 American Dietetic, and American Heart Associations say 18:40 "Go on 1,200 calories." 18:43 And I've asked people that. 18:45 I say, "Have you been able to do this?" 18:47 They say, "Not a chance. 18:49 All I can think about between meals is, 18:51 'When do I get to eat again?'" 18:53 çlaughterÑ You see? 18:54 And he hasn't been overly hungry while he's here 18:56 because of all the fiber in the food, 18:59 it's low-calorie, it's the right kind of fat, 19:04 it's the right kind of proteins. 19:06 And so all of the things that he does 19:09 are being healthy for his body. 19:11 And so, if a person goes on 19:13 the Standard American Diet (SAD), 19:16 then they're getting really calorie-dense foods 19:19 and not much bulk, so they're feeling hungry all the time. 19:23 And this is really the only way that a person can do that: 19:26 whole plant foods eaten whole. 19:29 When they eliminate the oil, 19:31 every one of those tablespoons, teaspoons of oil 19:35 that they have that are free, 19:36 from the other plant food and added to your food, 19:40 it's been liberated out, 19:42 and the fat cells will seek those calories 19:46 and they'll just bring them right back in. 19:48 So this is really the only way that I've seen 19:51 that people can be successful, 19:53 is to eat whole plant foods. 19:54 And then of course we wanted him to exercise. 19:57 And he couldn't! - He couldn't walk. 20:00 Yeah, he couldn't walk. - 30 seconds... 20:01 It was really exciting, 20:02 because finally he was able to walk 20:04 from the clinic all the way up to the flagpole. 20:07 And I was with him the first time. 20:09 And he sat down on the bench in front of the Weimart, 20:12 and he said, "I did it." 20:14 And I said, "You did what?" 20:16 And he said, "I walked all the way from the clinic 20:18 without stopping." 20:20 Most people wouldn't even think about it. 20:22 I gave it a lot of thought because 20:24 as you may recall in my own testimony, 20:27 I couldn't walk the Half Mile Loop either. 20:29 And I wasn't as big as Dave, 20:31 I was just a wreck. 20:33 And then it must have been 2 or 3 days before I could do that. 20:37 So Doctor, what you're saying then 20:39 in answer to my question is, 20:41 it doesn't matter how big you are, 20:43 it doesn't matter if you're on your last leg, 20:46 you could be on your death bed-- 20:48 get here, go on the program, and we can help them. 20:51 That's right. 20:53 And again, I'm so happy that you're following the people up, 20:57 because they appreciate it, and they know that 20:59 somebody's trying to help them, and they're there. 21:02 Well, we'll continue to do that. 21:05 I've been blessed by being given that assignment. 21:08 I get to talk to everybody while they're here 21:11 and then after they leave as well. 21:12 - Well, this is exciting. Thank you Doctor for joining us. 21:15 - I'm really, really happy. 21:17 It's always a pleasure to visit with you. 21:19 - Thank you. 21:20 And thank you for being with us, folks. 21:22 But don't go away, because in a moment 21:24 we have an important tip for you. 21:41 Hello. Welcome to NEWSTART at Home. 21:43 We're glad that we can enter your home today 21:46 I'm Don Mackintosh, the host, 21:47 and today we have Dr. Neil Nedley with us. 21:50 We're glad you're here, Doctor. 21:51 Thank you. It's good to be here. 21:53 You're a specialist in not only internal medicine, 21:56 which deals with medical issues of the internal organs 21:59 and the whole system, but also 22:01 preventive medicine, or so-called lifestyle medicine. 22:05 And today we want to talk about lifestyle medicine. 22:07 as it relates to what happens here at the NEWSTART program. 22:11 -Okay. And NEWSTART, of course, 22:14 that acronym-- nutrition, exercise, water, 22:17 and all those different things. 22:18 What are the things that we're learning 22:20 that can help people know 22:23 that this is really something that's going to help them? 22:25 Well you know, interestingly, we used to think of NEWSTART 22:28 as really being a preventive modality. 22:32 Those were the 8 things that could prevent disease. 22:35 And it's true, they do. But we now know that each 22:37 one of those principles can actually be utilized 22:40 in certain diseases to help treat the disease. 22:43 And maybe that's all that's needed. 22:45 to treat the disease and even cure the disease. 22:48 So it's not enough to just prevent. 22:49 It might even reverse. 22:51 That's right. Lifestyle medicine really is different 22:54 from preventive medicine in that lifestyle medicine 22:57 is a lifestyle intervention in the treatment of disease. 23:02 So give me an example. 23:03 We do the sunlight, we do all these different things. 23:05 We have cardiac patients, we have depressed patients. 23:08 What about sunlight? Vitamin D? 23:10 Well vitamin D can help people, 23:13 for instance, that have lung cancer or breast cancer. 23:16 Studies show that if you get breast cancer 23:19 and your vitamin D level stays low, 23:22 you'll have a much higher chance 23:24 of that breast cancer spreading to the lungs. 23:27 If you have breast cancer and you get the vitamin D level up, 23:30 you'll only have a 15 percent chance 23:32 of it spreading to the lungs 23:33 instead of about a 94 percent chance. 23:36 And so you can make a big difference 23:39 just on getting adequate vitamin D. 23:41 And of course, that's through the sun, 23:43 and that should be an intervention. 23:44 Every breast cancer patient should know that. 23:46 If you have breast cancer, 23:47 you need to get your vitamin D level checked. 23:49 because if it's woefully low, 23:51 you need to find a way of getting a lot more vitamin D, 23:53 and it will help your prognosis. 23:55 Now most people probably think their vitamin D level is fine, 23:58 but do most people have a problem with low levels? 24:02 Actually, the majority of Americans today 24:04 have problems with low levels. 24:05 And that's simply because we 24:07 don't live in an agricultural society 24:09 where people are outdoors working, like they used to be. 24:11 And so they're primarily indoor people 24:14 and if they are outdoors, it's in the morning or evening 24:16 where there's not enough 24:17 direct sunlight to get vitamin D. 24:19 Other things. What about cardiac patients 24:23 or those that have heart problems. 24:24 What are the lifestyle things that happen here at NEWSTART. 24:27 Well actually, the NEWSTART program has been 24:30 shown to be able to reverse coronary artery disease. 24:33 So if someone has chest pain and angina, 24:36 this is a great place to come. 24:37 And normally, within 5 to 7 days 24:40 their arteries actually begin to relax, 24:42 More blood goes to the arteries. 24:45 And over the course-- if they stay on the program-- 24:47 a year, on the angiograms it will actually improve. 24:51 Those plaques will significantly improve 24:53 in their coronary arteries. 24:55 And so you can actually reverse coronary artery disease 24:57 through NEWSTART principles. 24:59 Of course, if you have chest pain or angina right now 25:01 it might be best to call your doctor or go to the ER, 25:03 but you're saying if it's stable enough 25:05 to come up here then. - That's right. 25:07 Anything else in terms of lifestyle things that we... 25:10 that happen here, like... 25:12 Well I mean, it can treat hypertension. 25:14 High blood pressure can be treated 25:16 through NEWSTART principles. 25:18 Also many other diseases. You mentioned depression. 25:22 Major depression can actually be 25:24 treated through lifestyle principles. 25:26 And then, if you've even had a heart attack 25:31 and you have congestive heart failure, 25:33 the heart can actually get stronger, 25:36 and we can find ways of actually 25:38 preventing the fluid building up in the lungs 25:40 through certain NEWSTART principles. 25:42 So it sounds like NEWSTART is 25:44 kinda like the answer for many things, 25:46 and now we're figuring out why it's the answer. 25:48 That's right. - Yeah. 25:50 So lifestyle is a very powerful thing. 25:54 How long are the programs here? 25:56 Nineteen days. That's the full program. 25:58 And they run those one after the other. 26:01 They run them year-round, and so... 26:04 I tell ya, it's the greatest 19-day investment 26:08 that you can make, is in your health. 26:10 And this will definitely improve your health. 26:14 You know, it's exciting to be here 26:15 and see some of the changes in people's lives. 26:18 - Absolutely. 26:19 Well, we hope that what you've learned today 26:21 is helpful to you. It's been helpful to me. 26:23 And if you or someone you know needs the NEWSTART program, 26:26 let them know about the program. 26:28 Let them know about the people here, 26:30 like Doctor Nedley and others that are serving, 26:32 and just the good old lifestyle things 26:34 that they could be involved in. 26:36 Go to our website: 26:37 We're glad you joined us, 26:39 and we hope that as a result you have a new start 26:41 that starts today. 26:50 Modern views of evolution stem all the way back 26:53 to theories developed in the mid-1800s. 26:56 Out of the same time period came ideas that shape 26:59 our educational system today. 27:02 The Common School Movement, for example, 27:05 saw schools more like a factory, 27:07 with students blindly memorizing instruction 27:09 rather than thinking for themselves. 27:12 Their curriculum was rigid and theoretical. 27:14 Instead of being flexible and practical, 27:17 it was designed to conform the individual 27:20 into a specific ideological mold 27:23 that fit the needs of an old industrial era 27:25 long since passed. 27:28 Just like our view of creation in six literal days, 27:31 we believe the Bible contains an educational blueprint 27:36 radically different from the one we see now. 27:51 Well friends, that's it for today. 27:53 I'm glad you joined us, 27:54 and I hope you enjoyed the program. 27:56 Pick up that phone now and give us a call at: 28:03 Have a wonderful day, and God bless you. |
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