Hi friends, and welcome to
another edition of NEWSTART Now.
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I'm your host, Ron Giannoni.
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In our studio today
we have an unusual story
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of a gentleman who
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came to us after
having a heart attack
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just about a month ago.
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So before I get into this story,
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let's watch a segment
of when he first arrived,
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and let Paul tell you about it.
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I woke up in early December
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with pains in both my arms
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which progressed into my chest.
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I suspected heart attack,
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and was taken to
the hospital emergency.
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They took a couple EKGs,
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confirmed I was
having an attack at the time,
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put in one stent,
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later wanted to
put in a second one,
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and I didn't want that done.
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I didn't want to
be on medication.
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So that's why I'm here
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with this process to
reverse that condition.
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I'm currently taking
four medications for my heart
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that were given to me
at the time of attack.
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I want to get off of those,
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and I want to
get into this process
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so that I can reverse
all this heart problem.
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Welcome back, friends.
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In our studio we
have Paul Curtis.
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Paul, how are you? Good.
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Good to see you.
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So, you came here
after having a heart attack.
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What's interesting
to me is I had one also,
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but unlike you I
didn't go to the doctor.
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I just thought it
was gas or something.
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But tell us about that event
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when you went to
the cardiologist.
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What did he tell you to do, etc?
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You mean after he put
in the stent or before?
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Yes, afterwards.
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He said there wasn't a
whole lot he could tell me,
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because I'm not the
usual type of patient.
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I wasn't overweight.
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My total cholesterol
was pretty normal for them.
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They thought
anything under 200 is okay.
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Mine was 163.
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And so he said, "I don't
know really what to tell you.
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Your blood
pressure's not that high.
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It's elevated, but
it's not that bad."
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So he gave me these medications,
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these four medications to take,
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He wanted to see me back.
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He wanted to do
another stent in two days,
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and I told him no.
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Good for you.
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And then he wanted to do
a stent maybe in a month.
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And I said, "Well,
maybe. We'll see about that."
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I wanted to look up some
other possibilities first
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that I wanted to try out
that were normal corrections,
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which is why I
came to this place.
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Now, do you think that
it was an advantage for you,
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being a doctor,
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the way you
handled the situation
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when you rushed to
the emergency hospital?
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Oh yeah. I don't think
there's any question about that,
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because I
recognized what was going on.
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The biggest problem
was I'd had a few symptoms
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just a few days before.
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They were not typical,
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and so I didn't recognize those.
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But the morning
that I had the attack
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there was no question about it.
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I went into shock,
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and I immediately
checked my blood pressure,
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which was down on the floor.
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So I knew I was in trouble.
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I got the nausea,
the shock reaction.
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So I immediately
knew what it was.
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And that's why I
could take advantage
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of getting to
the hospital in time.
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I really didn't have
the worst part of the attack
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till I was
sitting on their table.
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Ah, okay.
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So I was right
there, ready to go to work.
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So fortunately,
they were there watching
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and they gave you
the necessary medications
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to help open up
the arteries and such.
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Okay, so now you come to
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the NEWSTART
program at Weimar here,
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which is about a month later,
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a month and a half later,
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in hopes to change
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whatever condition is going on.
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I guess after
talking to Doctor Ing,
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your situation
is an unusual one.
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You look healthy,
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you're not overweight,
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you eat properly,
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and you had this experience.
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Now they've got you on
these medications which
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I've stopped using
all of them myself,
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and I know that in
time you will as well.
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Tell us about,
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out of the four medications,
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are you on still all
four medications today?
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One of them I've discontinued
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just on my own,
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because I think
it's somewhat worthless.
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I don't know
whether we need to name it.
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But I'm on three of them still.
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One of them is just an aspirin,
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so it's no big deal.
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And the other two I plan
to get off of relatively soon.
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I'm gonna stay on
it a little while.
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I have a thallium treadmill
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ordered by the cardiologist
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for June the 30th.
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And I may stay on them
that long, I'm not sure,
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until I do that.
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But I've already
improved my stats,
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so I plan on
improving them to where
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it kind of
blows the cardiologist
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away when he sees them.
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He's not going to
be real happy with you
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when you tell him you stopped.
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"No, he's not going to get
that other surgery, I hope."
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Now, talking about
the treadmill test,
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you've had two since
you've been here, right?
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Correct.
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How did you fare on
the second treadmill test,
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which was yesterday?
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Actually, I passed both of them.
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Really?
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Yeah, that's what's
strange about this whole thing.
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I haven't had any pain
since I had the stent put in,
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treadmill or otherwise.
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I've been walking pretty much
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four miles a day
since I got here.
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So it's...
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Everybody kind of
just shakes their head.
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They don't know
what to say about it.
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So Doctor Ing tells us
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that prior to you coming,
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you called him and
spoke with him on the phone.
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You weren't sure
about the program here
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and whether it would
help your situation or not.
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By the way, I called
Doctor Ing too before I came.
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But tell us, if you would,
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is it meeting your expectations?
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Yes, I think it's met
everything that I wanted to do.
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Doctors have a tendency to be
a little hesitant on some things
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because it puts them in a
bad light with the cardiologist
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you're under at home.
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So you have to be a
little guarded on that.
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I understand that as
a doctor. You can't be
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going out of bounds
and creating problems.
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That's fine. I
understand, no problem.
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One thing I would like to say,
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that I was raised
a total vegetarian.
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That was another thing that
was strange about all of this.
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Now, vegetarian...
Explain to us what you mean.
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Well, vegetarian
meaning no animals
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as such, but it doesn't exclude
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animal products--milk,
ice cream, cheese, etc.
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And basically those
elements can be as bad for you
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as meat itself.
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So that's where I messed up,
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and that's where this
all comes from, I believe.
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So now you have opted
to not only be vegetarian,
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but vegan, right? Absolutely.
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A plant based diet,
whole plants eaten whole.
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Correct.
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Well, have you lost any
weight since you've been here?
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A pound, pound and
a half or whatever.
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But I didn't need
to lose weight, so...
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I just wondered how you would...
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I almost always, my whole life,
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I've always been in a
perfect band where I should be.
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I usually stay
between 160 and 170.
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And if I get
over 170 it's because
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I've been eating a lot of junk
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and I'll just back
off for a couple of days,
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and I'm back in
the bracket again.
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So I've never had a
problem with weight.
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So your BMI is in line?
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Yeah,
everything's fine. Okay, good.
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What about the food?
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The adjustment from going to
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vegan rather than vegetarian.
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Any problem with that?
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Probably easier for me because
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of the vegetarian start.
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I don't have to stop the
meats and all that stuff.
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It is difficult otherwise
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because I loved ice cream,
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and I love pizza,
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and I love a bunch of stuff
you're not supposed to be doing.
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And you've either got to
decide to do it or don't do it.
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You can't do
halfway and expect success,
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so I'm going to
do it all the way.
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And I've already
seen some results.
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Now I know we've had pizza
here since you've been here.
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Did you share in that?
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Yeah, but
there's no cheese on it.
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Well, of course. çlaughterÑ
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What did you think of
it without the cheese?
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Edible. çlaughterÑ
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Now I was raised Italian
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in an Italian neighborhood,
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and pizza was like our...
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I had it every day.
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My wife is Italian.
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So yeah, so you know the drill.
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I found it very
difficult to give up my cheese,
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but now that I'm off
of it for a few years,
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I have no problem with it.
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No big deal.
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But every once in a
while I'll smell that cheese,
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cooking in a
restaurant or whatever.
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Anyway, you're doing good.
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Are there any
particular other ailments
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that you had that
you'd like to share?
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No, but throughout my
life I hardly every get sick.
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I think there was like 35 years
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I never saw a
doctor for anything.
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And then I went
down and got a baseline
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just to see if I'm still alive,
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and that's when I discovered
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my cholesterol was
higher than I wanted it.
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It's within normal
range for a lot of doctors.
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They say 200 is okay,
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total
cholesterol, and mine was 211.
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But I was able to
reduce that to 158
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just by knocking
out animal products,
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such as cheese and milk.
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Good, good.
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We're running out of time
and I have to bid you good day.
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Thank you for joining us.
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You're welcome.
Glad we could help.
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And friends, thank
you for joining us.
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Don't go away! Doctor Ing's
going to be with us in a moment.
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Well, you've done very well.
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Do you have diabetes,
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heart disease,
high blood pressure,
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or do you weigh too much?
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Hi, my name is Dr. Ing,
and I'd like to tell you
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about our 18-day
NEWSTART lifestyle program.
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It includes a
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physician consultations,
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Welcome back, friends,
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and in our studio we
have Dr. Clarence Ing.
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Doctor Ing is
our director here of
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the medical facilities.
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Is that what go by?
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Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Well, medical director
for the NEWSTART program.
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Good to have you here, as usual.
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I want to talk about Paul.
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Now, when I interviewed Paul
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when he first got here,
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he was explaining this
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episode that he had--
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I'm going to call it an
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episode-- early December.
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And he was wise enough to
get himself to the hospital.
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Otherwise he might
have had a serious problem.
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But tell us a little
bit more about those events.
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Well, heart attacks occur
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in many, many
Americans, unfortunately.
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And oftentimes, the
first symptom that a male has
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is the heart attack.
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And unfortunately,
maybe 25 to 30 percent of them
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never survive more than 24 hours
of their first heart attack,
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so it's really too late.
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So 25 to 30 percent,
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the first one, BANG-- that's it.
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Yeah, they die.
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And within 24 hours.
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So it's not good.
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You really need
to be aware of this
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and be aware of some of the
risk factors for heart disease.
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Now, excuse me for,
I keep interrupting,
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but how many risk
factors did he have?
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He seemed to be
fairly lean, fairly active.
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Tell us about that, as well.
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Well one risk
factor, he was male.
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Ahhh.
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And even though he
was on a vegetarian diet,
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he was on what we call a
lacto-ovo vegetarian diet.
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And a lacto-ovo
vegetarian diet includes
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things like eggs,
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which have yolks which
are high in cholesterol,
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and it also includes
dairy products and milk.
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Of course, whole milk
has fat and cholesterol.
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Even non-fat milk has a very
small amount of cholesterol.
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And you know, they say
low-fat is 2 percent, 1 percent.
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Well whole milk is
only about 3 percent.
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So when they go to 2
percent milk and 1 percent,
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that's really not
the way you want to go.
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And the other
thing is, a lot of people
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say they eat cheese.
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There's cheese...
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And he had all this.
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He was eating cheese
and milk and eggs and...
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Yeah. Probably more cheese.
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He said he ate
eggs occasionally,
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but probably more cheese.
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As I recall, cheese
was several times a week.
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Was he
exercising like he does now?
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Yes, he was exercising.
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But the thing about cheese is,
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cheese is deadlier or
worse for you than meat,
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so-called red meat,
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because ounce for
ounce, or gram for gram,
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cheese had more saturated
fat and more cholesterol
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than the same
amount of red meat.
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So that's something
that people don't realize.
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Of course, usually they
eat smaller amounts of cheese
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than they do the red meat,
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but cheese you've
really got to be careful with.
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Many lacto-ovo vegetarians
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tend to use cheese too
freely, especially with
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the ethnic foods,
like Mexican foods.
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Lots of them contain cheese.
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And you know, cheese tastes
good for the people who like it.
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They do have soy cheeses,
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but even some of the soy
cheeses have casein in them,
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which is milk protein.
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And the milk protein actually,
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when compared with soy
protein, raises cholesterol
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when compared with soy protein.
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So soy protein is
preferable to regular milk.
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So how is Paul
doing on the program?
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Let's talk about some
of the benefits that...
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He's still taking all
of the medications that
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he was when he first arrived?
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His medications
really haven't been changed.
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He's been walking.
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He now realizes
the importance of
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a totally plant-based diet,
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whole plant foods approach.
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So he's happy to say goodbye to
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cheese and dairy products
and eggs and things like that.
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So he's a believer.
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Oh yes, absolutely.
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He's a pretty bright guy.
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He is a doctor too, a
podiatrist, I understand.
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But he's had
some medical training
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so he probably
took to this real well,
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wouldn't you say? - Oh yes.
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Once he realized
that it was important--
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because actually,
before he ever came,
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I got a call from
our guest services
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that there was a gentleman who
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wanted to get some information,
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wanted to know if
a lifestyle program
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could reverse heart disease.
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So I had an opportunity
to talk with Paul before
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and tell him about some of
the studies that have been done.
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Probably one of the
more important studies
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was one done by Dr. Dean Ornish,
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which was reported in
Lancet medical journal
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in the early '90s,
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showing that
with lifestyle changes
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very similar to what
we do here at Weimar...
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With angiograms of
coronary arteries before
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and several years after
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with the people
following this type of program,
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they're able to
get those arteries...
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get some of that
plaque reabsorbed
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and their arteries open up.
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So it's been worthwhile.
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So he's
reducing his medications?
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In time he
probably will reduce those,
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but that's going to be
something he's going to
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talk over with his cardiologist.
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But he's
beginning to get an idea
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what he needs to be on
and why he needs to be on it
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and what value it is.
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The other thing was,
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after his heart attack
and they put a stent in,
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as he would relate to you,
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they wanted to
put another stent in
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several days later, and he said,
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"Thank you, but no." He says,
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"I want to do it another way."
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I want to talk about
this stent for a minute
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because I've read, and maybe
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I read it in
Doctor Calwell's book,
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about how the
stent, when they put it in,
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if people do not
change their lifestyle,
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they're just
going to clog up again.
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Is this your understanding?
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Well, yeah, this is true.
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Even when they first
started transplanting hearts
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many, many years ago,
Dr. Christiaan Barnard
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in South Africa, when
they started to do this,
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they didn't have
people change their diets.
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And if they don't
change their diets,
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Whatever caused
coronary arteriosclerosis
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is just going to repeat.
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And if you get an
angioplasty or a stent now,
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if you don't change your diet
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they're just
going to plug up again.
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Sometimes in some cases,
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maybe 30
percent of them will get
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renarrowed or restenosed
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within 6 to 10 weeks
after the initial procedure.
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So this has been
a real challenge.
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So whether patients
have had stents or not,
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they've got to make
changes in their lifestyle.
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And we've had patients come here
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two days after
they've had a stent put in.
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So we're happy to work with them
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and we know that
we can help them,
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providing when they go home
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they continue to
practice and to follow
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the same principles
that they've learned here.
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Now we've talked about
exercise and food intake.
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Let's talk about
NEWSTART and the acronym.
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The N is for
nutrition, - Correct.
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E for exercise, - Right.
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W for water,
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S for sunshine,
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T for temperance,
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Temperance means using
nothing which is harmful or bad,
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Yes. You know, like,
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tobacco and alcohol,
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also caffeinated beverages,
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and using in
moderation the good things.
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So you get balance.
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Avoid the things that
are bad. - And you have air.
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Yeah, air.
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And rest. - Rest.
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And then trust in
divine power. - Right.
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Would you suggest that
all of these are important,
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or is there just
one you could pick out?
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What would you say to our folks
that are watching the program
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that they can start right now?
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Well, they're
all important because
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the motto of my medical
school, Loma Linda University,
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is "To make man whole."
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That's physically,
mentally, and spiritually.
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Whole person care.
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And if I just deal
with an individual's
00:19:50.36\00:19:53.30
physical problems
and aches and pains
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and never find out what his
emotional mental problems are,
00:19:55.42\00:20:00.54
and don't tell
them about the help
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that God is
willing to offer to people
00:20:04.04\00:20:06.78
who need to make
some lifestyle changes,
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I'm doing them a disservice.
00:20:09.51\00:20:10.87
Because it's really
hard for most people
00:20:11.00\00:20:13.84
to not overeat,
because food tastes good.
00:20:13.87\00:20:17.21
Many people are
addicted to food,
00:20:17.24\00:20:18.81
and they need some extra help.
00:20:19.09\00:20:20.78
And that's where God
can come in if they will
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talk to Him and
ask Him for that.
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So you're saying
that when people...
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if they're
watching this at home,
00:20:28.81\00:20:30.42
they should
initiate all these principles
00:20:30.63\00:20:33.45
and stick to every one of them.
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Right. Whole plant
foods, regular exercise.
00:20:34.75\00:20:37.45
If you want to lose weight,
00:20:37.60\00:20:38.66
stop your evening meal.
00:20:38.78\00:20:40.06
That's an
important aspect of it.
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It makes it a lot
easier to control weight
00:20:41.84\00:20:43.72
and to lose your
weight if you don't eat after
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2 o'clock in the afternoon.
00:20:46.36\00:20:48.48
Much easier.
00:20:48.63\00:20:49.63
So has Paul had
any other conditions
00:20:49.72\00:20:52.60
that he's dealing
with while he's been here?
00:20:52.63\00:20:54.33
No, the primary one is
his concern about his heart.
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Otherwise, he's
been doing pretty well.
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Good.
00:21:00.69\00:21:01.72
Doctor Ing, as usual,
00:21:02.12\00:21:04.39
I want to thank
you for being here.
00:21:04.51\00:21:06.21
It's such a pleasure to see you.
00:21:06.51\00:21:08.84
I know I see you on campus,
00:21:09.06\00:21:11.21
but there's something
different about being on the set
00:21:11.39\00:21:14.24
and chatting with you like this.
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Thank you very much.
00:21:15.60\00:21:16.63
It's great to be here.
00:21:16.66\00:21:18.00
And folks, I want to
thank you for joining us.
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We have an
important message for you
00:21:21.12\00:21:23.57
in just a few minutes.
00:21:23.75\00:21:25.09
So don't go away.
We'll be right back.
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Welcome to NEWSTART
Now. My name is Cathy,
00:21:41.72\00:21:43.84
and today we have
with us Dr. Eddie Ramirez.
00:21:43.87\00:21:46.36
Doctor, thank
you for joining us.
00:21:46.45\00:21:47.78
Hi. Thank you for inviting me.
00:21:47.81\00:21:49.24
Well, I'm glad that you're here.
00:21:49.25\00:21:50.24
Today we're going
to discuss intimacy.
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Share a little bit
about what you want to share.
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Yeah, you know, when
certain cultures come here
00:21:53.63\00:21:57.87
to the United States of America,
00:21:58.00\00:22:00.06
they like the work,
00:22:00.07\00:22:01.72
they like the freedoms
00:22:01.73\00:22:04.87
that are here in this country.
00:22:05.00\00:22:06.78
But something they
don't like is the fact that
00:22:06.84\00:22:10.54
many times intimacy lacks.
00:22:10.66\00:22:12.87
What do I mean by that?
00:22:13.42\00:22:14.72
Many of these cultures
00:22:14.87\00:22:17.30
are used to a more close society
00:22:17.42\00:22:21.42
in which there's more dependence
00:22:21.66\00:22:25.12
upon one and another.
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Here in America,
you know very well that
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you start growing up,
00:22:30.60\00:22:32.24
and after
passing your teen years
00:22:32.45\00:22:35.66
your parents start telling you--
00:22:35.69\00:22:37.06
in many homes,
not in all of them--
00:22:37.18\00:22:39.03
"Hey, it's time to move on."
00:22:39.12\00:22:42.24
Well, you go to other
countries in the world
00:22:42.51\00:22:45.33
and you will see that
there's an extended family
00:22:45.39\00:22:48.51
living in the same household.
00:22:48.54\00:22:51.57
So this spirit of independence,
00:22:52.12\00:22:55.54
yes, it's healthy, it's good.
00:22:55.63\00:22:57.75
But when we take
it to the extreme,
00:22:57.84\00:23:00.78
that is not good for our health.
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We, in our
heart, desire intimacy.
00:23:04.03\00:23:08.84
And when we don't even
know the names of our neighbors,
00:23:09.30\00:23:15.54
and we just go to work and
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have very
shallow relationships...
00:23:19.27\00:23:22.78
Different
structures that used to be
00:23:23.30\00:23:27.03
very present in our societies
00:23:27.09\00:23:29.60
are starting to disappear,
00:23:29.78\00:23:31.48
such as churches. Churches...
00:23:31.57\00:23:35.24
Studies show that people
that attend the church regularly
00:23:35.30\00:23:39.54
have a better health.
00:23:39.66\00:23:41.09
And that is
related to that intimacy.
00:23:41.18\00:23:43.42
When you go to church,
00:23:43.51\00:23:44.69
and you talk to
the other members
00:23:44.81\00:23:47.00
and you start
sharing your heart,
00:23:47.09\00:23:48.72
It's very good
for the soul, that.
00:23:49.09\00:23:51.87
When they have
done studies about this,
00:23:53.06\00:23:57.69
It's fascinating the
results that they have found.
00:23:57.70\00:23:59.72
University of Pittsburgh
did a very interesting study.
00:24:00.00\00:24:03.45
in which they put
the virus of the cold
00:24:03.63\00:24:08.57
straight on the noses of the
participants or the volunteers.
00:24:08.75\00:24:13.75
And what they found is that
00:24:14.15\00:24:17.00
the people that made five
or more phone calls to friends
00:24:17.15\00:24:23.42
in a period of
aweek-- imagine this--
00:24:23.66\00:24:26.06
in a period of a week,
00:24:26.18\00:24:28.03
those people
didn't develop the cold.
00:24:28.12\00:24:31.12
Oh wow.
00:24:31.13\00:24:32.21
Their immune system
became strong enough
00:24:32.27\00:24:36.51
to battle that virus of a cold.
00:24:36.57\00:24:39.03
Five people! - Wow, yeah.
00:24:39.12\00:24:40.48
And that's not a huge number.
00:24:40.54\00:24:43.18
Same thing, certain
studies have shown that
00:24:43.39\00:24:47.72
people that are
going to go through
00:24:48.03\00:24:49.51
certain medical
heart procedures,
00:24:49.57\00:24:52.51
if they have somebody to
which they can open their heart,
00:24:52.63\00:24:59.21
the outcome of
that particular surgery
00:24:59.36\00:25:03.51
is much better, independently
of secondary factors
00:25:03.63\00:25:08.27
such as smoking and
exercise, which is great.
00:25:08.30\00:25:13.15
But you can be doing
all these right things
00:25:13.39\00:25:17.09
and if you don't have intimacy,
00:25:17.15\00:25:19.54
you are in big trouble.
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Wow. - So then,
00:25:22.48\00:25:23.57
what are we going to do
to increase our intimacy?
00:25:23.75\00:25:27.45
One of the
things that we suggest
00:25:27.57\00:25:30.06
is that you
develop a prayer life.
00:25:30.09\00:25:32.45
When you are praying
00:25:32.81\00:25:34.84
and you become
vulnerable to God,
00:25:35.15\00:25:38.84
just open yourself.
00:25:39.18\00:25:41.15
Don't try to trick God.
00:25:41.45\00:25:43.18
"Oh, He doesn't
know these things."
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He knows it!
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Why not just spit it out?
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So when you have that
kind of relationship with God,
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it's very good for the soul.
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That's why studies
show that prayer is so good.
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Also, develop friendships.
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Participate in
community activities such as,
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attend a regular church service.
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That is so good for your soul,
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to be able to fellowship
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and talk to other people,
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and try to find out
how you can increase
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that intimacy
with those around you.
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That is so
wonderful. God is good.
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For those of you who would like
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more information
about this topic,
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you can visit our website at:
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And you can also remember,
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maybe we should each take
time to call five friends,
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and have prayer.
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Have a nice big prayer chain.
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Good exercise.
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Thank you for joining us.
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Modern views of
evolution stem all the way back
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to theories
developed in the mid-1800s.
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Out of the same time
period came ideas that shape
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our educational system today.
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The Common School
Movement, for example,
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saw schools more like a factory,
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with students blindly
memorizing instruction
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rather than
thinking for themselves.
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Their curriculum was
rigid and theoretical.
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Instead of being
flexible and practical,
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it was designed to
conform the individual
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into a specific ideological mold
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that fit the needs
of an old industrial era
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long since passed.
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Just like our view of
creation in six literal days,
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we believe the Bible contains
an educational blueprint
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radically different
from the one we see now.
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Well friends,
that's it for today.
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If you have a friend like Paul
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who has suffered
from a heart attack,
00:27:50.36\00:27:52.24
maybe you can refer them
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to the NEWSTART
program here at Weimar.
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Have them pick up their
phone and give us a call at:
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God bless you,
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and have a great day.
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