Participants: Ron Giannoni (Host), Susan Stanley
Series Code: NSN
Program Code: NSN000037
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00:23 Hi folks, and welcome to another edition of NEWSTART Now.
00:27 I have a real special lady with us today. 00:31 Susan comes to us from Florida. 00:35 She flew out and joined our NEWSTART program 00:38 a couple of weeks ago with several issues. 00:43 And rather than tell you about it, 00:45 let's break away to when she first arrived. 00:50 What caused me to come to the NEWSTART program is 00:53 I've had lupus. 00:55 I've been diagnosed with lupus, 00:57 I've got fibromyalgia. 00:59 I've had a lot of pain issues. 01:02 Just kind of, my life has been taken away from me. 01:06 Because I've been in so much pain, 01:07 I couldn't exercise. 01:09 I didn't really have a lot of hope when I came. 01:14 Actually I was pretty low. 01:18 I didn't think there was anything 01:21 that could help me anymore. 01:23 The doctors just kept pushing medicine at me. 01:28 Their answer to everything is Prednisone, 01:31 and all that did was make me blow up 01:33 and gain weight. 01:36 It just made me feel worse 01:38 instead of making me feel better. 01:41 So I didn't have a whole lot of hope when I came. 01:44 I wanted a normal life. 01:46 I just wanted my life back, 01:48 that I could choose to get up and 01:50 go outside and walk. 01:51 Or I can choose to go sit in a movie and not 01:55 be in so much pain that I scream when I hit the end of the show 01:58 when I try to get out of the chair. 02:00 Just a normal life, 02:04 and I'd like to share that life with someone. 02:08 So, I would be very open to that as well. 02:14 Welcome back folks, 02:15 and as I promised, Susan Stanley. 02:18 How are you, Susan? Very good, thank you. 02:20 Good to see you. Glad to be here. 02:21 You look like a different gal to me. 02:23 I hope so. 02:25 I feel like a different gal. 02:26 çlaughterÑ 02:28 Well, let's get right in to... 02:30 During our first interview, 02:32 I saw a lot of emotion. 02:37 I saw depression. 02:41 I saw some real pain. Can we talk about that? 02:46 Yeah, you're right. It was all there, all of it. 02:50 I was so engrossed in it that I couldn't 02:53 even see the light of day. 02:55 I was just at the lowest point that you could be. 03:01 So do we have psychiatrists here, 03:04 or what's happened? 03:05 You look so different. Tell me about what is happening. 03:08 I feel different. I feel different from the inside out. 03:11 I don't know if it shows that much 03:12 on the outside, but I truly feel 03:14 different on the inside. 03:15 And no, there's no psychiatrist here. 03:18 There's fellowship, there's love, 03:20 and God is just around everywhere. 03:24 You can feel Him 03:25 everywhere here. Amen. 03:26 It just goes into you, and the walking, you feel it. 03:33 Everyone is here to help you and they want you to get better, 03:36 to where you have no choice. 03:38 You're going to get better if you're here. 03:40 Like it or not, right? That's right. 03:42 That's right, you're going to get better. 03:45 So you said you're feeling better from the inside out. 03:48 Let me say, let me boldly say, 03:51 outwardly you look thinner. 03:54 Thank you. I have lost 11 pounds. 03:56 You lost 11 pounds? Yeah. 03:58 And probably several inches. 03:59 Yes. I didn't get measured initially, 04:02 but yes, I can feel that, because 04:04 my belt loop has definitely gone over a couple of notches, 04:07 which is wonderful. 04:09 So a lot of the walking has helped that, 04:11 and I've toned up too quite a bit 04:13 in my muscles and in my legs. 04:18 How did you deal with the food? Has that been an issue at all? 04:23 Not eating so much is probably the issue, 04:27 Because everything is so good, you want to eat and eat and eat. 04:29 I really didn't think I would like the food at all. 04:33 I really didn't. 04:35 But there's a couple things maybe 04:38 that everyone will say, 04:40 "I didn't like this one or that one." 04:42 But 95 percent of it, you love it. 04:45 It's so good, and it's so easy to do. 04:47 We learned that in cooking class. 04:49 It's so easy to prepare yourself. 04:51 And I'm not a cook, so that really troubled me. 04:56 But it's going to be easy to do. 04:58 Why would the food be an issue for you? 05:00 Were you a meat-eater prior to coming here? 05:03 Oh, most definitely. 05:04 A meat-eater, a cake-eater, a cookie-eater, a bunny-eater. 05:08 So we don't serve meat here, right? 05:11 Right, no. 05:12 How about cookies? Yes, we have cookies. 05:14 Mmm, and we have pie. çlaughterÑ 05:18 But we have good, healthy cookies and pie. 05:20 We do, and you don't even know! 05:22 You don't miss it. 05:23 Isn't that amazing? 05:25 Yep. You don't even miss it at all. 05:26 What about some of the other issues 05:28 you had when you arrived here? 05:30 Well, because of my lupus I had a lot of joint issues, 05:35 where I was all swollen. 05:38 You haven't been able to see these knuckles in a while, 05:42 because I was so swollen all in here. 05:44 And all the swelling-- it's just amazing. 05:47 All the swelling has gone down. 05:49 The food is anti-inflammatory, 05:52 So all my joints have just... 05:56 All the swelling has come out of my joints. 05:58 I'm sure hydro has had 05:59 something to do with that as well. 06:01 But the main component from what I understand is the food. 06:05 Okay. Did you enjoy, or... 06:09 did you have your hydrotherapy? 06:11 Yeah, I had...well, actually I had fever baths. 06:14 They're not so much enjoyable except that you know 06:18 at the end you're going to have an amazing result 06:22 when you get through all 15 of the therapies. 06:25 Tell us about those baths that you had. 06:28 Well, they put you in a hot tub, 06:31 of water, which just feels wonderful when you have 06:34 aches and pains in your joints and muscles. 06:36 And then they heat your body up to about 102-103 degrees, 06:42 and you stay with that fever for 20 minutes. 06:46 And then they cool your body down. 06:48 And the whole time the tech 06:50 is there with you, and she's putting 06:52 ice on your neck, on your head, and making you 06:55 as comfortable as she can possibly make you. 06:57 After that they cool the water down. 07:00 You get up, and then you go back 07:02 to your room for an hour and rest. 07:05 You really feel good afterwards. 07:08 Did you have any of the hot wax treatments for your hands? 07:11 No, I didn't. 07:13 Okay. They probably thought that wasn't necessary. 07:15 We also have that treatment. 07:17 Oh, the paraffin? Yes. 07:19 It's absolutely wonderful. I love to put my 07:22 hand in the hot wax 07:24 and then peel it off. 07:27 Okay, so where do you go from here? 07:31 What are you going to do when you get home? 07:33 Well, the first thing I'm going to do 07:35 is fill the cupboard up 07:37 with all the good stuff that I learned here, 07:40 and find a trail, because I live in Florida. 07:43 It's pretty flat. 07:44 I'm looking for a trail that has some little hills. 07:47 and gives me a little bit of the challenge that I'm used to here. 07:50 It certainly won't be as beautiful. 07:52 Certainly won't be as beautiful, 07:54 but I'm just going to keep continuing with the program. 07:57 Okay, but what about your family? 08:00 Oh, my daughter, she lives with me. 08:03 My son lives about 15 minutes away. 08:07 But my daughter lives with me 08:08 and she said she's got it all ready. 08:10 She can't wait to start the program with me. 08:13 So yep, we're going to do it together. 08:14 That will be fun. 08:16 Yep, she's going to be my walking buddy, too. 08:18 Now, were you able to walk okay when you got here? 08:21 No, not very far. 08:23 I couldn't breathe. The first time I did the half-mile loop 08:26 and came up that hill, 08:28 I barely made it to the chair to sit down, 08:32 and they were going to get me a bag. 08:34 I couldn't breathe. I was hyperventilating so bad. 08:37 It was very sad. 08:39 But now, yep, I can just loop around with the best of them. 08:44 We have some fast walkers here. 08:46 I went out to Manzanita, 08:50 the trails, and oh my goodness... 08:52 It's so beautiful there. 08:54 So what would you say is the furthest you've walked 08:58 while you were here? 09:00 Seven and a half miles so far. 09:04 And you couldn't make it around 09:05 the half-mile loop when you got here. 09:07 No.... I couldn't even breathe. çlaughterÑ 09:10 You know, I'm laughing because when I got here 09:12 I couldn't make it around that half-mile loop either! 09:15 I just couldn't make it! 09:17 I had to stop and rest and....çgaspingÑ 09:21 And then, the change came. 09:24 And it was quickly! Yes. 09:25 It happened just ever so quickly. 09:29 Almost so that you can't even notice it. 09:31 Just one day you're walking and talking and you go, 09:33 "Wow, I can do this." 09:35 Yep. "I've made it up the hill!" 09:36 And you turn around and look and it's like...çgaspÑ 09:39 And you didn't even know you did it. 09:40 The walking and talking-- that's the key. 09:43 Susan, I'm so happy for you, 09:45 and I just want to bless you 09:47 and congratulate you. 09:49 I know it took a lot of strength to get here. 09:53 I want to thank you for joining us on the set. 09:55 You're welcome. Thank you so much. 09:57 And folks, I want to thank you as well. 10:00 Don't go away. 10:02 We're going to be right back with a really good tip. 10:06 Well, you've done very well. 10:14 Do you have diabetes, 10:16 heart disease, high blood pressure, 10:18 or do you weigh too much? 10:21 Hi, my name is Dr. Ing, and I'd like to tell you 10:23 about our 18-day NEWSTART lifestyle program. 10:27 It includes a comprehensive medical evaluation 10:30 with laboratory studies 10:31 and an exercise stress test, 10:33 physician consultations, 10:36 culinary school, 10:38 and an opportunity to walk on beautiful trails 10:41 in the foothills of the Sierras. 10:45 Your health is one of the most 10:46 important things that you have. Don't wait. 10:49 Give us a call at: 10:53 Or visit our website: 11:12 Hi friends, and welcome back. 11:14 As I promised in our studio, Doctor Lukens. 11:17 Yeah, and wasn't Susan happy! 11:19 The difference, oh, that was great. 11:22 She's just like night and day! 11:24 Our first interview she seemed depressed and down, and... 11:29 Well, if you had what she had, 11:31 and you were suffering they way she was... 11:34 Yeah, well, when I came here I was depressed. 11:37 I was down. I had no hope. 11:40 Yeah, well see, that's the main thing. 11:43 It's not false hope. 11:44 Because sometimes even if a person 11:46 doesn't get what they think... 11:48 They might read one of our newsletters 11:51 and somebody lost 50 pounds, 11:53 which can happen. It did happen 11:56 a couple of times. And they say, 11:58 "Well, I'm 175 pounds. 12:01 I wonder what I'll look like at 125 pounds 12:04 in two weeks?" So you know, these kind of things. 12:07 So sometimes... But when they see other people 12:11 getting what they get, 12:13 which is spectacular... 12:15 Cholesterol drops and stuff like that. They say, 12:17 "Wow! Even though maybe I 12:19 didn't do exactly what I wanted, 12:21 I feel better." And she, 12:23 she didn't tell all the story. And I don't know whether... 12:27 She said we could use whatever. 12:29 Yeah, well you can get into that. 12:31 I think that's fine. 12:32 You know, I didn't mention to her, 12:34 and I want to repeat it, 12:36 that when I came here I had no idea 12:39 the amount of weight I was going to lose. 12:41 I thought I would lose some weight 12:43 because I was going to change, 12:44 but I lost 70 pounds! 12:46 Over a period of how long? 12:48 Well, it was a couple of years. 12:51 I didn't try 12:52 for the first year real hard, but 12:54 it kept peeling off. 12:56 I think the majority was the first six or eight months. 12:59 We'll have to talk about that some time when we 13:02 talk about somebody that came primarily for obesity. 13:05 Yes. Yeah, it's amazing. 13:07 So with regards to Susan... 13:08 Once again, I don't mean to put you on the spot, 13:12 because she was only here for like fourteen days. 13:15 Well, it was sixteen when she left, but yeah. 13:20 Since it was Thanksgiving we had to hurry everybody home. 13:23 Yes, yes. 13:24 But she had such great change. 13:27 She just seemed so vivacious, so 13:29 much more alive. 13:31 What happened? 13:33 Well, one of the pills-- We talked about this 13:34 in an earlier interview. 13:36 One of the pills that she takes just makes her feel sick. 13:39 And which one was that? 13:41 Well, the Plaquenil that she had to take for-- 13:45 She had all these joint problems and everything. 13:48 And I don't know... 13:50 Did she make it real plain in the interview 13:52 that she had systemic lupus 13:55 erythematosus (SLE)? 13:56 She didn't use those words, 13:58 which are easier for you to say. 14:00 She said she had lupus. 14:01 Yeah, yeah, okay. 14:03 But she didn't use that long term. 14:04 I can't even say it. 14:06 Yeah, but anyway, 14:07 see, that's something that you realize 14:09 you're going to have to take this 14:10 and your going to have to take prednisone, 14:12 and you're going to have to... 14:13 You might have to go on methotrexate in order to 14:16 just survive, you see. 14:18 And some of those things, they just... 14:21 Sometimes people get by on low doses, 14:23 sometimes they have to 14:24 load you up on it to stop a flare-up and stuff like that. 14:29 If you've been through it and you know how it did, you just... 14:33 You almost lose hope after a while. 14:36 In fact, you do. 14:37 Yeah, she tells us she lost hope. 14:40 What was all the inflammation 14:42 and the pain in the joints and such? 14:46 Well, with the SLE-- it's easier to say-- 14:49 your body attacks itself. 14:52 Ah, okay. 14:54 It can attack joints, it can attack kidneys, 14:56 and just basically, eventually, 14:59 too many things have been attacked. 15:02 And that's tough. 15:05 And to realize that 15:08 when you have the flare-ups again you're going to have to 15:11 take the prednisone, which is going to make you 15:15 gain weight and retain fluid. 15:18 And when you have to keep taking the... 15:20 this is the... 15:22 hydrochloroquine, the things that we use for malaria. 15:26 The people that are in malaria areas, 15:28 they quit taking that after a while 15:29 because of the side effects, 15:31 vision and other things. 15:34 Doctor, tell us about... She had two treadmill tests. 15:39 Tell us about how she fared on the second one, 15:43 because the first one, I understood, 15:46 she wasn't able to walk that long. 15:48 Yeah, and pain is a great limiter on everything. 15:54 So just to be able to get up there and do just a little bit, 15:59 just a few seconds, a half a minute, 16:02 a minute and a half, or something like that, 16:03 you just give up, and to be able to improve. 16:06 But the thing is, 16:08 what she didn't say, 16:10 and I'm going to take the liberty to say it, 16:12 is that she had almost a 30-pack 16:15 year history of cigarette smoking. 16:19 She did not say. Yeah, she quit! 16:21 Yeah, people aren't proud of that. 16:23 But she got off of it and she was thrilled. 16:25 Oh my goodness. Yep, yep. 16:27 Isn't that amazing? 16:28 Yeah, I hope she isn't cross with me for saying that. 16:32 Now, do we have a quit smoking program here? 16:35 Yeah, you have to, or you have to walk off campus, 16:39 and if you want to do it at 3 o'clock in the morning 16:42 and it's 30 degrees outside, you 16:44 figure out something else. 16:46 You know, we've seen people walk off campus to smoke. 16:50 Yeah, and they're welcome to do that, 16:51 but they really want to quit smoking 16:53 most of the time. That's why they're here. 16:55 And that was the case with Susan. 16:56 Yeah, and you know, she had... 17:01 They always have trouble in the first few days, 17:03 but she just feels like she's free from it now. 17:06 That's why the follow-up is so important. 17:09 The other thing is, she told me at the banquet, 17:13 and I said this in one of the other interviews, 17:16 I told her what had happened over and over and over again 17:20 with people that had this lupus. 17:23 And it's not supposed to be anything that cures it. 17:26 It just goes back and forth and stuff like that. 17:28 But I told her about the people that have gone into remission. 17:31 Five years, seven years, ten years... 17:33 They have to stay with the program in order to do that. 17:36 And sometime the medications, like methotrexate, 17:40 which is something that you give them, 17:44 and you give them enough so that 17:46 it helps them to go into remission, 17:48 sometimes they suffer from that for months afterwards. 17:53 It suppresses the white count and 17:56 it just feels sick, and we've had patients that 17:59 it's taken them six months now, 18:00 and they're starting to feel themselves again. 18:04 Doctor, during one of our interviews 18:07 you mentioned Doctor Esselstyn. 18:10 And you mentioned his findings 18:13 and his reports with regards to food only. 18:18 And you also mentioned that we do exactly what 18:22 Doctor Esselstyn has prescribed for his patients? 18:27 What he recommends... 18:29 His was kind of a prototype, 18:32 and so anything that had even natural oils in it... 18:35 But we find out from other research 18:38 that's done, good research... 18:40 Loma Linda University did this with nuts, 18:43 and they found out that a half a cup of raw nuts 18:46 or just barely toasted, 18:48 that that also helps with cholesterol. 18:50 We know that avocados are one of the most 18:52 heart-healthy things you can eat. 18:55 Olives, if you don't use the oil but eat the whole olive. 18:58 That kind of oil is good for you. 19:00 So some people say, 19:02 "I've read studies where if you totally leave out all the oil, 19:06 then you're not going to be healthy." 19:08 Well we don't leave out all the oil. 19:09 But we still get the same kind of cholesterol reductions. 19:13 We see people that, maybe they struggled... 19:16 I see rare cases 19:18 where people have struggled for years 19:20 and even as they're doing it, as they lose weight, 19:23 their cholesterol doesn't come down. 19:25 And we check them later and... 19:26 One guy's cholesterol was well below 150, 19:33 and his risk ratio was the lowest I've ever seen, 19:36 and he did it for years. 19:38 I want to be clear on something. 19:40 When you say we don't leave out all the oils, 19:44 what you mean is we don't add oil itself but we have it 19:48 in the foods that we eat. 19:50 Yeah, we don't leave out 19:51 all the plant foods that have oil in them. 19:53 Avocados, nuts, and stuff... 19:56 but we don't add the oils to the food, 19:58 so they can eat the avocados. 19:59 And people love avocado. 20:02 That's nature's mayonnaise, 20:04 thick spread, thin spread, it's everything. 20:07 If you hate avocados, 20:08 you'll learn to like them on this program. 20:11 Because your taste buds change. 20:13 And then the nuts. It's really nice to 20:16 sprinkle some whole nuts on things, and we do that. 20:19 One of the patients said that we did 20:21 some simple foods down at our house. 20:23 And the olives, they're good for you, but 20:27 you don't want to add the oil, 20:29 because that turns the 20:30 cholesterol mechanism on in the liver. 20:32 So are you recommending that the people at home, our viewers, 20:36 should perhaps stop all 20:38 oils that they're... 20:40 Yeah, eat the oils still in the fiber. 20:44 Yes. So whole foods eaten whole. 20:46 That's all you need to know. 20:49 Well Doctor Lukens, 20:51 again I want to thank you for joining us. 20:54 It's always a pleasure to talk with you. 20:56 It's my pleasure to see these people like this. 20:57 How can you top that? 21:00 It's really tough. 21:02 And folks, we hope that you'll pick up that phone and dial: 21:10 Ask for Doctor Lukens. 21:25 Hello, and wecome to NEWSTART Now. 21:27 I'm Don Mackintosh, 21:28 and joining me in the studio today is Dr. Michael Orlich. 21:31 Welcome, Doctor Mike. Thank you. Glad to be here. 21:34 Today we're going to talk about osteoporosis. 21:37 Doctor, what is that? 21:39 Do we need to be concerned about it? 21:42 What can we do about it? 21:43 Well, we do need to be concerned 21:45 or at least aware about osteoporosis. 21:47 It is a significant problem affecting 21:50 quite a lot of people throughout the world 21:52 and the United States in particular. 21:54 Osteoporosis, more than anything, 21:57 is a disease of brittle bones. 21:59 The bones get less dense, less strong, over time, 22:03 and this can lead to fractures. 22:05 This is especially true in women after menopause, 22:08 in elderly women, but also in men. 22:12 And what can we do to avoid it? 22:14 Well, whenever you think of bone health, 22:17 the first thing you probably think of is calcium. 22:20 Of course. 22:21 And calcium is very important. 22:24 You do need adequate sources of calcium in the diet. 22:28 So whatever your diet is, whether it's a plant-based diet 22:31 or a diet that includes animal foods, 22:35 you need to make sure that 22:36 you have adequate sources of calcium, 22:38 because many diets don't. 22:40 But calcium is not the only factor. 22:43 Okay, well I want to know the other factors, 22:45 but what are some sources of calcium in the diet? 22:47 When I was in nursing school I always 22:50 realized that the best answer was probably 22:52 green leafy vegetables. 22:53 Is that still true in this case? 22:55 That is absolutely true. 22:56 You hit it on the head, and it is true for many things. 22:59 They are wonderful 23:00 vegetables, but some of your greens 23:03 like collard greens, kale, bok choy, 23:08 these types of greens are high in calcium. 23:11 I would recommend having these on a regular basis 23:14 in your diet to help get enough calcium. 23:18 You should eat these in sufficient quantities. 23:20 I should note that spinach in particular 23:23 has something called oxylate in it, 23:26 which means its calcium is not as well absorbed. 23:29 So some of the other greens would be better sources. 23:32 So Popeye the Sailorman really wasn't getting the best source 23:34 when he ate the spinach. 23:36 But was strong, wasn't he? He was strong anyway. 23:38 Well you know, all those foods that you mentioned 23:40 are the kind of things we see here in the NEWSTART cafeteria. 23:43 It's interesting that they would know that. 23:44 Of course, you would expect them to. 23:46 But you mentioned something else. 23:47 You said that calcium is not the only part of this picture. 23:51 What did you mean? That's right. 23:53 Certainly equally as important, if not more important, 23:56 may be vitamin D. 23:58 In fact, if someone was diagnosed with osteopenia, 24:01 which is sort of pre-osteoporosis, 24:03 where the bones are starting to get thin. 24:05 One of the first things that I would recommend that they do 24:08 is have a blood level of vitamin D checked. 24:11 If that's low, that's correctable 24:14 and may deal with the problem. 24:17 You can't absorb calcium well 24:19 unless you have enough vitamin D on board. 24:22 So vitamin D, you could get that from 24:24 walking out in the sunlight or some kind of supplement. 24:26 Absolutely. That's correct. 24:28 In addition to vitamin D, 24:30 exercise is critically important, 24:33 and weight-bearing exercise is very important. 24:35 This is where you're putting the weight of your body 24:37 as a stress or strain on your leg bones, on your spine. 24:41 This would be things like walking, jogging, etc. 24:44 You know, in the Mir space station, 24:47 the Russian space station, 24:49 those cosmonauts would come back after a few months having lost 24:52 much of their skeletal mass. 24:55 And that's because of the lack of gravity. 24:57 But in the current international space station, 25:00 they have a rigorous exercise program 25:02 with weight-bearing excercises that put stress on the bones. 25:06 And they don't lose any bone mass, 25:08 even when they're there for months. 25:09 So exercise is critically important. 25:11 A couple of other things that are important are vitamin K, 25:14 that's important for bone health. 25:16 Many people don't realize that. Where do you get that? 25:18 That's in those dark green leafy vegetables as well. 25:21 It's also important not to have an excess amount of protein, 25:25 especially animal-based protein 25:27 which may lead to leaching of calcium 25:30 from your bones into your urine. 25:32 This is also true with high-sodium diets. 25:36 So all that extra salt and sodium in the prepared foods 25:39 is not only bad for your blood pressure and for heart disease. 25:42 It could also put you at risk for osteoporosis as well. 25:46 So the action point today then is, 25:48 get out there and exercise, 25:49 eat the right foods, those green leafy vegetables, 25:52 have weight-bearing exercise when you're exercising, 25:54 get the sunlight, 25:56 and mostly just get out there and move, right? 25:58 That's right. It's not just one point but a whole lifestyle 26:02 that can help maintain your bone health 26:03 as well as prevent other diseases. 26:05 Well, thank you Doctor Mike for being with us, 26:07 and thank you for being with us. 26:08 We hope that as a result of today's program 26:11 you can get a "new start now." 26:12 But also, that start may mean going to our website 26:17 where there's more information. 26:18 Again, thanks for joining us, 26:20 and have a "new start, " right now. 26:30 Hi, I hope that you've enjoyed as much 26:32 as I have this edition of NEWSTART Now. 26:35 I'm Jim Brackett, executive vice president 26:37 here at the Weimar Center, 26:39 I want to take just a moment to give you an idea of some 26:41 of the wonderful resources we have here at the bookstore, 26:43 such as Dr. Nedley's book Proof Positive. 26:47 Now in addition to Dr. Nedley's book, 26:49 he has a series on depression recovery. 26:51 We have the NEWSTART lifestyle 26:53 series on DVD by our NEWSTART physicians, 26:56 relating to topics like diabetes, 26:58 heart disease, cancer. 27:00 We have a number of authors who have cookbooks here, 27:03 including some in the raw field. 27:05 Now we'd love to have you stop by and visit 27:07 us for your shopping, but you can do it online at: 27:11 Click the link that says bookstore. 27:13 Or use our 800 number, 27:19 And by the way, anytime your order is $100 or more, 27:22 we'll see that you get free the NEWSTART lifestyle cookbook. 27:30 Well friends, that's it for today. 27:32 But if you're like Susan and you're suffering 27:35 from some disease like lupus, 27:37 fibromyalgia, 27:39 or depression, cardiovascular disease, 27:42 cancer, diabetes, 27:44 pick up that phone. 27:45 Give us a call at: 27:58 We hope to see you next week. 28:00 In the meantime, may God richly bless you 28:04 in all ways. |
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