Hi folks, and welcome to
another edition of NEWSTART NOW.
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We have a special and
unusual guest with us today,
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Idelys, comes to us
all the way from Maryland,
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with an unusual story in that
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she has cancer,
or had had cancer
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and some other
issues concerning her heart.
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We're going to talk
to her in just a minute,
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but I'd like to
break away to our
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interview when she first arrived
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Back about, I
guess October of 08
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I was diagnosed with lymphoma.
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and I went through a very
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intense six
months of chemotherapy
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to eliminate the lymphoma.
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By the grace of God, the
lymphoma was put into remission,
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yet my lungs and my heart
suffered terribly because of
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the bleomycin and the other
chemicals in the chemotherapy.
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What I would
like from NEWSTART is
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a close relationship with God,
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a closer walk with Him,
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obviously I want
healing, physical healing.
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I want to learn how to cook
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healthier, and the way
that God intended us to cook
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so that when I go home,
it's not just about my healing,
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but preventing disease
from coming into my family,
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From helping my parents
through their older years,
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helping my teenagers
grow into healthy adults,
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and my husband
through his middle-age
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and keeping him and
everyone else healthy.
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Welcome back folks, and
with us is Idelys Jepson,
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Idelys, how are you dear?
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Very good thank you.
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You look so vibrant and alive.
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Well, I feel alive and vibrant.
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Maybe that why?
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Yes, perhaps.
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So, you know, I
want to get into,
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before I forget,
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there are some things that we
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didn't cover in
the initial interview.
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Would you tell us about that?
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And I believe it was related to
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your heart and
some other things.
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Yes, I was originally
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diagnosed with
non-hodgkin's lymphoma
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and went through very
intensive chemotherapy,
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six months
worth, every two weeks.
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And one of the side
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effects of that
is lung toxicity,
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and also the
bleomycin effect your lungs,
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the adriamycin
effects your heart rate.
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So are you
saying that through this
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process that your
lungs were affected and such?
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You actually experienced this.
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They were. I did experience it.
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It was in the
later part of the chemo,
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I started experiencing
shortness of breath,
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I was fatigued very easily,
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and could barely walk down the
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stairs without
feeling out of breath,
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and just a
heaviness on my chest.
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So they sent me
to a lung specialist,
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and they ran some tests and they
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showed that I did
have lung toxicity
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the lining
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I guess the walls of the lungs
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had thickened
from the bleomycin.
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and it was difficult to breath.
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And also my heart
rate was terribly fast,
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it got up to about
149 beats per minute
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Wow, ok
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And then what happened? You
came to a point in your life
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where they diagnosed
you for real with the
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disease that you are
here to treat, right?
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Right, right, I was in remission
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from the cancer at
that point even though
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I was still
undergoing the chemo treatment
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but, I was. . .
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you know I had all this toxicity
in my body, and I felt I needed
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to go somewhere where I could
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strengthen myself
and cleanse myself
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of all the chemo
that I had undergone.
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And also to strengthen
myself, and be able to walk,
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and to be able to do the
chores I used to be able to do.
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Now when you arrived
here, could you walk?
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just a little bit at all?
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Oh I could walk, by
then I had been given a
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lot of cortisone to
help the lungs to heal.
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So I was walking,
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I wasn't feeling
as good as I am now,
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so my energy levels weren't
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what they used to be.
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So I've seen a
huge difference in
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my energy levels
and in my strength,
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and also in my
ability to breath.
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Oh wonderful.
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Now did the doctors here
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examine you for
your past conditions?
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Yes they did, they did a
very thorough examination,
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they did a
stress test, they did a
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treadmill test which
marked your blood pressure,
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and your heart rate
during strenuous exercise
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and they do that at the
beginning of the program,
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and then again at the end.
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And how did you fair?
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Oh, at the end it was great!
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I could do quite a
bit more than I did,
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I went an extra
minute and a half.
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a very strenuous sort
of running-walking, and
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It was a big difference,
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my blood pressure
too has come down,
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my resting heart
rate has improved.
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Awesome, who is your doctor?
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Dr. Lukens.
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What a wonderful man.
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Oh, there are not too many like
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him in the
world, he's so special.
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He is a special man,
he's been gifted by God.
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He really has been, and you
really can see Christ in him.
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Just in the love that he has
for each one of his patients,
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and for everyone in general.
He had us over to his home
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for supper one night, and
he fixed the meal himself!
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He's quite an amazing person.
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He thinks he is a chef, huh?
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I'll have to talk
to him about that.
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He is, yes, I've
heard that same thing.
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Now about your weight?
How are you doing with that?
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Well, I've lost five
pounds since arriving,
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I gained quite a bit of weight
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because of the prednisone
that I was put on for the lungs,
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so I gained almost 40 pounds,
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so that doesn't
come off overnight.
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And I believe in
what I've learned here,
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is that when you do a crash diet
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you are going
to, probably chances
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are you're going
to gain that back.
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But the way to do it
here, is to change your
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lifestyle and to eat the way
that God intended for us to eat.
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Whole plant foods eaten whole.
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And that has made such a
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difference in my
life, and again endurance
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as I said, I didn't do
a whole lot of walking,
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I would walk
through the mall and
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just be out of
breath before I came,
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and on one of my best days
here, I walked over nine miles!
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And you weren't out of breath?
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Well during the uphills!
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You know but I
felt so invigorated,
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and I felt great,
and after the nine miles
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it's not like I wanted
to lay down and go to sleep,
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I was almost ready
to go for another walk!
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I had to kind of hold
back a little bit, but
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the amount of energy
is just unbelievable.
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And praise God, it's
been a wonderful experience,
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and my energy levels
are like never before.
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Isn't God wonderful?
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He is wonderful.
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He just says do
what I ask you to do,
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and leave the rest up to me.
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Alright, so from
here on, what's next?
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You are going to go back,
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and I know you are
going to see your doctors
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when you get
back home in Fredrick,
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tell us about
what's happening there.
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Well, you know,
some of my doctors
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were skeptical
about this program,
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others were
thrilled and just waiting for
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me to come back so
they could see the results
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and really believed in it.
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But my oncologist
specially was skeptical,
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and I just can't wait to get
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back for him to
see the difference.
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You can kind of
rub it in a little!
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Well I want him to
see what a blessing
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this program is, and how you
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really get
results, and not just. . .
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it's not a quick fix,
it's a lifestyle change
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that will be with you
for the rest of your life.
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Different from a diet which
we've mentioned in the past,
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this lifestyle
change encompasses
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not only the food that you eat,
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you know we talk
about when to sleep,
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how often you should
eat, maybe some people
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will eat only two
times a day, some three,
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and a lot of other things also,
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which encompasses,
prayer and worship.
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So, I'm so happy for you.
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Thank you, I'm
quite thrilled myself!
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Now are you going to
be one of our angels?
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How's that?
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Angels are
people who go back home,
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and tell their
church family, and their
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immediate family all
about our NEWSTART program.
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Absolutely!
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I think they will be
able. . . I think I will be a
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living example because
they saw how I was before,
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and I think our actions
and the way we live speak
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louder even
sometimes than our words.
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And I hope to be a living
testimony of what Weimar can do.
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You are a living testimony.
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Well, thank you.
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Idelys, I want to thank you for
joining us here in the studio,
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Thank you, it's been a pleasure.
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God bless you,
and stay in touch now.
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I sure will, thank you.
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Folks that it for today,
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but call for your
free DVD and brochure,
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ask for guest services.
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Don't go away
we'll be right back.
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Well, you've done very well.
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Do you have diabetes,
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heart disease,
high blood pressure,
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or do you weigh too much?
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Hi, my name is Dr. Ing,
and I'd like to tell you
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about our 18-day
NEWSTART lifestyle program.
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It includes a
comprehensive medical
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evaluation with
laboratories and an
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exercise stress test,
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physician consultations,
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culinary school,
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and an opportunity
to walk on beautiful
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trails in the
foothills of the Sierras.
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Your health is one of the most
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important things
that you have. Don't wait.
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Give us a call.
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Or visit our website.
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Hi friends and welcome back,
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in our studios is Dr. Lukens.
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It's so good to see you.
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Yes, I'm always
happy to talk about what
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NEWSTART does for
people that are in distress.
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You know, and I am too, and I
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particularly like to
talk about this lady because
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we almost lost her,
not here at NEWSTART,
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but she has cancer,
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And had non-hodgkin's lymphoma.
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Yes, which is a
form of cancer is it not?
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Yes.
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And she looks great.
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Yes, she does!
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What has happened?
Tell me what's happened,
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tell our viewers so
perhaps they can be inspired.
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Well, the thing
that is really wonderful,
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is that, and people
out there might think
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you know, is all you can think
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about is
NEWSTART, and what they do
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and you're down on
everything else, I'm not.
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I believe in surgery for cancer,
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I believe in
radiation for cancer.
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I have a cousin who is a
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dosimeter and he
has to figure out
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how much radiation
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to give to patients.
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And these things are
a curative, sometimes.
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And even chemotherapy,
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the non-hodgkin's lymphoma,
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I think they get a 95
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percent cure
rate on these things.
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So we can't be against
something that really works,
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But the thing is is
that the side effects
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can sometimes be permanent.
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Isn't that why
Idelys came to the NEWSTART,
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is because of the side effects?
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Yes.
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And she had radiation for the
tumours that were in the chest
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and if they just keep growing,
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obviously you
don't have room for
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anything in the
chest but the tumours.
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And so they had to do that,
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but it left her
with radiation problems
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She called it lung
toxicity, but it's just
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a problem there, and you know
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and the thing is, is that
there's a lot of other problems
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that people have in their lungs.
I know from when I was a baby
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I have damaged lungs from
asthma for many many years,
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but haven't had to take any
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medication for my
asthma for 18 years now.
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So I know there's
secretions in there
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there's inflammation and stuff,
and we keep coming back to
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getting the lungs to clear out.
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I know a lot of people
this isn't popular with them,
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but even just a
little bit of milk protein
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for some people just
keeps the inflammation going.
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And so we see,
even emphysema patients,
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that when the
secretions clear up and
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the inflammation in
their lungs is better,
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they start
breathing quietly again.
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And this was her thing,
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we were able to
do that part out,
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but we got rid of some of
the inflammation that came
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from the radiation.
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The secretions that she had in
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her lungs are
starting to clear up
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and so she was
thrilled because she could start
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she could actually,
and she told you that,
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she could go
around the half mile loop,
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she could go fast.
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One of the things we know that
she is getting better is because
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her pulse was
always high, she said
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it's been that way
since she was a kid.
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Why do you suppose that was?
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Well some people
are just that way,
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But hers was inordinately
high, and it was a problem,
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and now it's come
down to a normal level.
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Has she been eating in
the past before NEWSTART
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animal products, dairy products?
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Yes, yes, why not?
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She was. Why not? Yes
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Since she came here
she stopped these things,
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and of course she got better.
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Yes exactly, well I don't know
where she'd find them on campus!
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The point I'm
getting to is with all
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these animal
products she was taking
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these were causing inflammation
in the lungs you think?
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They do, and I keep
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talking about
the prostaglandins,
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if someone wants to know
about prostaglandins google it,
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there's only three and
three quarter million hits,
00:16:08.87\00:16:11.21
so you have to
have a few minutes
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if you want to
find out about it.
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That's a lot of reading right?
00:16:14.42\00:16:15.69
You've talked about it on
our program a number of times,
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and I know, it's
getting into my brain here,
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but I visualize when we change
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to a plant based
whole food program,
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thos prostaglandins get into
the arteries, and capillaries
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and they just open up and
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increase the blood
flow, is that right?
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They increase the flow, and they
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decrease the
inflammation, that's why
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all these areas of inflammation,
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and you can think of
inflammation all over the place,
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we'll talk about that in
the next patient, you know,
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she gave me a
hug last night at the
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banquet and she said
you have given me hope.
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Now what other issues
was Idelys dealing with?
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I know she
wasn't morbidly obese,
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but she was. . .
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Well her normal
weight was like 125,
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and you know, somebody that
is as vivacious and attractive
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and everything as she is,
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She gained up
to 165, they had to
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give her the
prednisone in order to. . .
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you know with all the
inflammation in there if
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they don't do
that she's not going
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to be able to breath at all.
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And that causes weight gain?
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Yes it always does.
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So you know, there's a whole
40 plus or minus pounds there
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And from that time
she tried to do some of
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these things at home,
started trying to do it
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and she's lost
15, now she's down to
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about 150.
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And that's the right direction,
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that's another
reason why she looks better.
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But she's redone it so
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some of the adipose and some of
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that other stuff
is gone, and she's
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lean body mass
again, so that's wonderful.
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But there are other
things that happened to
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her besides the
weight gain and the breathing
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her white blood count got so
low that they had to give her
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injections to bring
the white blood count up,
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she said they weren't
so painful at the time,
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but her bones just ached.
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You see, so I can't
be against what she did
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to get rid of the lymphoma,
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but she also went through fever
treatment here that also helps,
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you know, with
her immune system.
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And the thing
that's really wonderful
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about that is she's
just feeling good now.
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Yes, absolutely, now I get calls
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from time to time,
people want to know
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you know, what. . .
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we have people
come here for 18 days,
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and I understand we
have a program in place now
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where when they
leave we do followup.
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Do you followup on
the guests as well?
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Yes, as I can
and that's why this
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is something that
has to be in place
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because you
know it's surprising,
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three months from now,
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some of the time the people,
00:19:13.06\00:19:15.06
the message that
they go away from, here,
00:19:15.07\00:19:17.84
is something that
they've heard long ago,
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that we didn't
even say to them, like
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well I gave up red meat,
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and I'm just eating
chicken and fish now.
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You know, I mean. . .
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So you know you have to,
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and sometimes their
cholesterol was really high
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and they don't get the
idea that, well you know,
00:19:33.84\00:19:35.78
I know that olive
oil, and canola and Saffola
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those are really good for you,
00:19:39.39\00:19:41.06
so I'm using those
now instead of the other,
00:19:41.07\00:19:43.30
and we know
from Esselstyn study,
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and the other studies,
00:19:46.24\00:19:47.75
they're not going to get that
clearing out of their arteries,
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unless they go to the whole
plant foods with no added oil.
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Absolutely none,
unless it's natural?
00:19:54.69\00:19:56.39
Well whatever
they have to do to get
00:19:56.45\00:19:58.87
their total
cholesterol down below 150
00:19:58.88\00:20:01.45
without medicine you see.
00:20:01.57\00:20:03.30
Sometimes you can
take a medicine that will
00:20:03.48\00:20:06.21
take your so called
bad cholesterol from 150,
00:20:06.22\00:20:09.00
which is high, down to 50.
00:20:09.27\00:20:11.12
And those haven't been shown
to be helpful for everyone,
00:20:11.84\00:20:16.75
but if I say, we want
your LDL cholesterol down to 70
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and theirs is 50, you know
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everything I say
after that is just. . .
00:20:22.88\00:20:24.87
you know because
they are already there
00:20:26.15\00:20:27.39
so they need to do it without,
00:20:27.75\00:20:29.42
that's what my family
practice news magazine says.
00:20:29.43\00:20:32.12
You've got to do it, and
you've got to do it right.
00:20:32.66\00:20:35.36
Without medication?
00:20:35.60\00:20:37.12
Well you know, maybe the
00:20:37.24\00:20:38.57
medication can
help in some situations
00:20:38.58\00:20:40.63
but,
00:20:41.00\00:20:42.06
if it's only the
medication that's doing it,
00:20:42.24\00:20:44.18
and they haven't done any
exercise they haven't done any
00:20:44.19\00:20:46.54
diet change, then they are
usually fooling themselves.
00:20:46.78\00:20:50.51
Well if the numbers go from 150
to 50 isn't that a good thing?
00:20:51.06\00:20:55.48
Yes, but it doesn't
save that many lives.
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It doesn't?
00:20:58.10\00:20:59.21
No.
00:20:59.30\00:21:00.30
So because you're taking these
00:21:00.31\00:21:02.60
cholesterol
lowering medications,
00:21:02.87\00:21:04.75
it doesn't
necessarily save a lot
00:21:04.76\00:21:06.60
Your very very
happy with the numbers,
00:21:06.72\00:21:09.24
but you see, I do
the family practicing,
00:21:09.45\00:21:12.21
and the family
practice guys are the primary
00:21:12.22\00:21:15.15
and they have to tell you what
00:21:15.48\00:21:17.36
really happens
and what really works
00:21:17.37\00:21:19.51
and they say, you've
got to have lifestyle
00:21:19.60\00:21:22.06
you've got to have the diet,
00:21:22.42\00:21:24.78
the diet in
this case is the big,
00:21:24.79\00:21:27.54
and then the other is huge too.
00:21:27.75\00:21:30.69
Dr. Lukens,
00:21:31.24\00:21:32.72
I want to thank
you for joining us,
00:21:33.00\00:21:34.54
we're running out of time,
00:21:34.55\00:21:35.69
Folks don't go away,
we'll be right back with a tip.
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Hello, and
welcome to NEWSTART NOW.
00:21:54.12\00:21:55.57
I'm Don Mackintosh,
we're glad you're with us,
00:21:55.58\00:21:57.51
and we're glad that Dr.
Michael Orlich is with us.
00:21:57.78\00:22:00.12
Thank you for
being with us Doctor.
00:22:00.24\00:22:01.54
Glad to be with you.
00:22:01.55\00:22:02.57
You are a doctor that has
experience in family practice,
00:22:02.58\00:22:05.42
and also you're boarding
now on preventative medicine,
00:22:05.51\00:22:08.42
and you've worked
for a number of years,
00:22:08.75\00:22:10.72
here even at Weimar
with the NEWSTART program.
00:22:10.73\00:22:13.00
That's correct.
00:22:13.01\00:22:14.06
One of the things
that they espouse here,
00:22:14.07\00:22:16.15
in other words they
recommend, is that people
00:22:16.16\00:22:18.39
go on a largely plant
based diet, if not fully.
00:22:18.84\00:22:21.75
And one of the
concerns that we get a lot,
00:22:22.18\00:22:23.57
a lot of phone calls we get,
00:22:23.58\00:22:24.60
so you're going to
help us clear this up,
00:22:24.61\00:22:26.15
is what about vitamin
B12? I heard that this
00:22:26.36\00:22:28.81
could be a real
problem, is that a problem?
00:22:28.82\00:22:31.24
Why is it a problem? What
should we do about it if it is?
00:22:31.45\00:22:33.63
Vitamin B12 deficiency
can be a real problem.
00:22:34.18\00:22:37.54
It can cause serious diseases.
00:22:37.78\00:22:41.27
It can cause
problems with your blood,
00:22:42.06\00:22:44.30
a special type of anemia,
00:22:44.31\00:22:45.69
but more critically still,
00:22:46.18\00:22:47.84
is it can cause
damage to your nerves,
00:22:47.85\00:22:50.30
and this can lead to
00:22:50.63\00:22:52.27
psychiatric and neurological
00:22:52.57\00:22:54.36
problems that
could be quite serious,
00:22:54.37\00:22:56.60
and if not caught soon enough
00:22:57.15\00:22:59.66
could actually be irreversible.
00:23:00.24\00:23:02.00
So it's a very
important thing to know about.
00:23:02.06\00:23:03.81
Now, do many people get this?
00:23:04.06\00:23:07.21
Do many people
have these problems?
00:23:07.66\00:23:09.27
Have you ever seen a case?
00:23:09.28\00:23:10.39
Yes I have seen a
case unfortunately,
00:23:10.81\00:23:13.30
vitamin B12
deficiency is not common,
00:23:13.63\00:23:17.36
but it is somewhat prevalent.
00:23:17.81\00:23:21.57
And in most cases it relates to
00:23:21.81\00:23:24.54
disorders of the
gastrointestinal track
00:23:24.81\00:23:27.75
where the vitamin
B12 for one reason or
00:23:28.30\00:23:30.78
another is not able
to be absorbed well.
00:23:30.79\00:23:33.33
The other population
that is particularly at risk,
00:23:33.51\00:23:36.30
for vitamin B12
deficiency is the elderly.
00:23:36.42\00:23:39.33
Often the elderly get on
a sort of tea and toast diet
00:23:39.54\00:23:43.51
and so their not
getting in much vitamin B12,
00:23:43.84\00:23:46.54
and they don't absorb it as well
00:23:46.55\00:23:48.39
so as you get older the
00:23:48.57\00:23:50.24
requirements for
dietary B12 go up.
00:23:50.25\00:23:52.60
Now I don't want to
put you on the spot,
00:23:53.18\00:23:54.87
this is kind of like a
true or false question for me,
00:23:54.88\00:23:57.21
but I've heard someone
said that most vitamin B12
00:23:57.39\00:23:59.75
deficiencies
occur in people that
00:23:59.76\00:24:01.42
are meat eaters.
Is that true or false?
00:24:01.43\00:24:03.33
That's true, and
that's because of
00:24:03.42\00:24:05.27
the reasons that
I just mentioned,
00:24:05.28\00:24:07.09
most of the vitamin
B12 deficiencies are
00:24:07.15\00:24:09.66
not due to not
getting enough in the diet,
00:24:09.67\00:24:12.30
rather it's due
to gastrointestinal
00:24:12.51\00:24:14.66
problems
interfering with the absorption.
00:24:14.67\00:24:17.21
However, vegetarians
00:24:17.60\00:24:20.33
particularly vegans or total
vegetarians that don't eat any
00:24:20.54\00:24:24.54
animal based
foods, no milk, etc.
00:24:25.09\00:24:28.00
are a higher risk of
00:24:28.27\00:24:30.00
developing
vitamin B12 deficiency.
00:24:30.01\00:24:32.66
And as you know, at NEWSTART
we do teach a plant based diet,
00:24:33.21\00:24:36.48
as a therapeutic diet,
00:24:36.49\00:24:37.69
and as a
preventative diet that can
00:24:37.70\00:24:39.60
increase your
longevity, and reduce
00:24:39.84\00:24:42.36
your risk for a
variety of diseases,
00:24:42.37\00:24:44.75
but we want to
be smart about it,
00:24:45.09\00:24:46.57
and we don't want to
00:24:46.58\00:24:47.66
stumble into another problem
while we are solving others.
00:24:47.67\00:24:50.42
So what can we do to
avoid a deficiency in this?
00:24:50.63\00:24:54.30
It's really very simple,
00:24:54.63\00:24:56.15
you just need to
have a known quantity
00:24:56.16\00:24:58.36
of vitamin B12 in your
diet, either in pill form,
00:24:58.60\00:25:01.84
or in fortified foods.
00:25:02.21\00:25:03.78
Plant foods do not have
naturally occurring vitamin B12
00:25:04.33\00:25:08.60
in any level that
you can rely upon.
00:25:09.03\00:25:11.30
Now you may see things
00:25:11.75\00:25:14.60
in health food stores and that
00:25:15.12\00:25:16.66
kind of thing
that claim that certain
00:25:16.67\00:25:18.60
seaweeds and
things have vitamin B12,
00:25:18.61\00:25:20.57
but this is not
really true vitamin B12,
00:25:20.58\00:25:22.66
and you can still
have deficiencies.
00:25:23.24\00:25:24.72
So we would recommend
either a multi-vitamin that you
00:25:25.00\00:25:28.06
take every day that has a
small amount of vitamin B12,
00:25:28.07\00:25:31.12
or you could take a vitamin
B12 tablet say once a week,
00:25:31.48\00:25:35.60
or even once every two
weeks, and that would be plenty.
00:25:35.61\00:25:38.39
Or you could eat foods that are
00:25:39.09\00:25:41.24
fortified with B12,
this could be a lot of
00:25:41.25\00:25:44.12
boxed breakfast cereals,
00:25:44.54\00:25:46.39
many of your soy milks and
other products have vitamin B12.
00:25:46.72\00:25:50.48
So you don't need much,
it's very easy to get it,
00:25:50.57\00:25:53.24
but you want to be conscious of
00:25:53.57\00:25:55.24
that so you
don't become deficient
00:25:55.25\00:25:57.00
and suffer needless problems.
00:25:57.27\00:25:58.81
Thanks a lot for
being with us Dr. Mike.
00:25:59.24\00:26:01.03
And thank you for
being with us, we hope the
00:26:01.36\00:26:03.54
information you
gained today will
00:26:03.55\00:26:05.24
give you a new start, right now.
00:26:05.25\00:26:06.75
Hi, I hope that
you've enjoyed as much
00:26:15.33\00:26:17.36
as I have this
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00:26:17.37\00:26:19.42
I'm Jim Brackett, executive vice
00:26:19.87\00:26:21.63
president here at
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00:26:21.64\00:26:23.51
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00:26:32.27\00:26:34.27
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