Hi and welcome to
another edition of NEWSTART NOW.
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We have in our studio
this morning a special lady,
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special in that
she's been here a
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couple of times to
our NEWSTART program.
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Her name is Martha Savage.
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Martha, how are you?
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Thank you I'm very fine today.
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Good.
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I'm very
grateful for being here,
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and being very fine today
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Good, and I want to ask you
a few questions now, because
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what's unusual
about Martha's visit is
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we didn't have a visit
with you when you first arrived.
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We met while we were
doing blood draws if you recall.
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Martha tell us,
you were here in 05,
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in November of 05
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How much weight,
lets just start there,
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how much weight did you lose
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from November 05 til today?
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Well I'll tell you how
much I weighed in 05, I was 335
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and today I weigh 250.
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I had lost more, but I gained,
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recently I
gained back 20 pounds.
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I never gained back everything,
but I put on 20 pounds of it.
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And that was a red flag to me,
and my health was really bad.
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Ok, why did you
come, of all the places,
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why did you come to
the NEWSTART program?
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It was
suggested to me by a nurse
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that I had heart problems,
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and she suggested
that I come to Weimar,
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and get on a healthy program
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diet wise, mentally
wise, spiritually wise.
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Ok, but you left,
and you were doing ok
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you continued losing weight,
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but here you are
again, you've come back
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for this session,
and yet you are going to
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another session at the
end of this one, right?
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Yes, I am.
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Ok, what has happened?
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I had terrible pain
that didn't go away,
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excruciating pain, and
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I found out when I came back
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this time, that
I'm overmedicated.
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And Dr. Lukens took away all
my medication, I came on Sunday
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and Monday he
took my medicine away,
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and I haven't been on it since.
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I'm clearheaded, I'm not dizzy
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when I try to
stand up from a chair,
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When I'm walking
I'm not light headed
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and feeling like
I'm going to fall down,
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or you know, fall backwards,
or faint or something.
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I don't have any
of those symptoms,
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and here it is Thursday.
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Yes Thursday, it's
been like three days right?
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All I'm taking is
my pain medication
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because you can't
just come off of it just
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cold turkey you have to
come down off of it slowly.
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I'm a diabetic,
so I take insulin.
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The food program here is
excellent for my diabetes
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I've lost two pounds
while I've been here,
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I'm very grateful for that.
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Let me stop you for a moment.
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Since you've been here,
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and I know it's
only been like four days,
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are you taking the
same amount of insulin?
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No, no I've cut back.
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You have cut
back, ok so the program
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by being here,
you're starting to
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slow down the amount of
insulin that you're taking.
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Now how much
less are you taking?
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Well at home I
used to take between
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25 and 30, and here
I'm taking 10 to 15.
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And that's in
the first four days.
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Yes.
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Tell me about
the medications that
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Dr. Lukens advised
you to discontinue.
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What kind of
medications were they?
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Blood. . . I mean. . .
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blood pressure medication
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I was taking a lot of psych
medicines for mental depression
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chronic depression, I'm not
taking those, I'm not depressed.
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Ok, let's talk about the
blood pressure medications.
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Is your blood
pressure normal right now?
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It's going down yes, and
it's going down every day.
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Good, what was it this morning?
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Do you recall?
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I'm sorry I
don't recall, I had my
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paper with me but I
don't have it over here.
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The good news is that your
blood pressure is dropping,
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you're thinking more
clearly now than you were,
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and so Dr. Lukens,
as I understand it,
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has advised you to
stop these medications
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because they made you foggy
and not thinking correctly?
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Well, he took them away because
he wanted to see how I would do,
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because I had so
many symptoms, that
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he said my medicine I'm
taking is too strong for me.
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And possibly I might be
taking too much medication.
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And I'm grateful for
how I feel right now.
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I wouldn't have attempted
it on my own I would have been
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afraid to stop
my medication, but
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being here I feel very
safe with his direction.
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Now I know, and I've got to
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say to the
viewing audience, that
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you know there are many people
out there taking medications,
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and being sick because of them
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I myself, as I recall,
after I had a five way bypass
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like you have,
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I was getting
dizzy and I was taking
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these different
kinds of medications
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and they could
never quite get it right,
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and I kept telling my doctor,
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you know, something isn't
right, something isn't right.
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Well when I came
here, I stopped my
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medication for
high blood pressure
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six days after I arrived.
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So there is a chance
that people who are sick,
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on a lot of
different medications.
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You and I are
fortunate, we've had
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people here on 20
to 25 medications.
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I was on 19.
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You were on 19! Oh my goodness!
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And your only, how
many are you taking today?
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Just my pain
medication and my insulin.
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Wow, you see there. . .
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And I cut back
my pain medication.
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Oh, what a
blessing, what a blessing.
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I have degenerate arthritis
in my spine, and in my neck.
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And I was suffering, I hurt
so bad the other day in my back
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that I couldn't lean forward to
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get the salad
out of the salad bin
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and I had to ask the
person next to me if they could
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serve me my salad because
I couldn't lean any further.
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I didn't have this problem
at breakfast this morning.
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Oh praise God.
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So needless to say
you are doing better.
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Now let's talk
about your walking,
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I know you've had
some problem with that.
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How are you doing
with your walking?
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Well outside, I
haven't walked outside.
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I've been
walking in the hall ways.
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When I came here I was
very very tired and exhausted
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so I've taken the time to rest
a few days instead of walking,
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I mean I will
walk to everything,
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I walk to my
meetings and everything.
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But I haven't
added walking to it,
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but I do go to the stretching
at six o-clock in the morning.
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So you go to the stretching
exercise in the morning.
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I saw you there
this morning by the way,
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that's where I came and met you.
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Ok, so that's
helping you feel better,
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and the pain is subsiding?
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It's not only subsiding,
I don't have any pain.
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None at all? - None at all.
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Well that's great.
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Praise the Lord, yes,
and the treatments here
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the food program,
the water, the hydro
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I go to that, and I have also
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when I was at home,
my legs were purple,
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and my feet were purple,
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and now I have
normal color in my legs,
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from the. . . I'm
taking the hot and cold
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treatment where you just put
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your legs and
feet in little tubs
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and I do that.
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So in four days
your legs are now
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normal color,
they're not purple.
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Yes, they're not purple.
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When I asked my
doctor about my legs,
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when they were purple
and bloodshot and all that
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she said Oh
don't worry about that,
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that's typical for diabetics.
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Oh man.
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Yes, and now my
legs are normal also.
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They told me that
I had been tested for
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my veins in my legs to see
if they're clogged or anything,
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and they said for well
now they wouldn't do anything,
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this one is worse
than the left one,
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But they wouldn't do
anything right now, until
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maybe I would have to have
my foot amputated or something.
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Ouch, don't want to do that.
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No, don't want to do that.
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Well Martha, I want to thank you
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for joining us
here in the studios,
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God bless you dear.
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Thank you.
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I'll pray for you everyday.
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Thank you, and
I'll pray for you also,
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and I appreciate
being interviewed
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because I want to help anybody
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who has problems, I want them
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to be able to
come here to Weimar
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and have a fresh
start physically,
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mentally, and spiritually.
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Thank you, dear.
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Folks, that it for
today, but don't go away,
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because we have
a message for you,
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don't go away
we'll be right back
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Well you've done very well.
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Do you have heart disease,
diabetes, heart disease,
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Welcome back folks, and in
our studio I have Dr. Lukens
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Dr. Lukens how are you?
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Very good to be here.
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It's always good to see you.
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I wanted you to do this one.
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I know you did, and this
lady is pretty incredible,
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because I talked to
here the day she got here,
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and she was not
real stable as you know.
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Now she's off these medications,
she is thinking clearly
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she's able to communicate.
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I know this is a blessing,
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How did you find that she
was taking too many medications.
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Well, one of the things that
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they tell us
every time I go for a
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review and an
update in family practice,
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they say your the primary
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and all the specialists
have put their medications in.
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Your job is to figure out
which ones they can get off of.
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And they say, Look sometimes all
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you have to do
is give the patient
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a therapeutic holiday.
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and they get well
because this ones done that,
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and that one's
done the other thing.
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And so I just decided,
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one of the things is that
she tried to do the treadmill
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and she couldn't get
her blood pressure over 110.
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That gave me the
idea that she was on
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too much medication
for her blood pressure.
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But with her legs swelling,
they had to give her the lasix
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to get the excess water out.
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So it was just a no brainer
when she couldn't stand up,
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and she said, I
feel light headed.
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She was also having a
reaction to her insulin,
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so she was sitting
there, just kind of. . .
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you know you can tell when
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people are going south
on you with their insulin.
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And she said, I feel nauseated,
I feel like I'm going to vomit.
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And so I said, Well look
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let's just stop all
of your medication now
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and then we'll add the
ones back that you need.
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So the very next
day I weighed her,
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to see what her
weight was doing,
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because we've had
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people come off
of five different
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medications for their
blood pressure by the Thursday.
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So I weighed her the next day,
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and she was still
losing a little bit of weight,
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so I knew that she
didn't need to have the diuretic
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And the next day she said
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Doctor thank you so much for
taking me off these medicines,
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I just feel like I
can do something now,
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I can think I can
walk, I don't have the pain,
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and all these things, so I said,
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Well that's wonderful
now let's see how you do.
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She's going to be
here two sessions,
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and that's going to
be really wonderful.
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Yes and perhaps we can get here
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in the studio
for the next session.
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How about at the end of the two?
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Yes, yes that's
what I'm talking about.
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I wanted to ask you this:
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now she tells us she
was on several medications,
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isn't this kind of common
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here's a lady who's
had a five way bypass
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she's all of a sudden
come up with diabetes,
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she's morbidly obese
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and the list goes on
and on and on with all
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these different
problems that she is having.
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And each time she
goes to a specialist,
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as you've already suggested,
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they want to give
here something to help her.
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Is this really typical?
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Is this happening
out there in the world,
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are people watching
us out there right now
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saying, Yes, I'm just
like this lady, help me.
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What can they do?
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Well you know there really
is, but to be fair to everybody,
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the idea that
most people say is,
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Look, just give me the pill Doc,
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and we'll worry about the
diet and exercise next time.
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You see, so it's not
entirely their fault.
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I talked to a
cardiologist one time
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and he realized, he said,
Wow, this is going to be great.
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So he went out there in the real
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world and started
talking to his patients,
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telling them to do
this, telling them to do that,
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their just kind of like. . .
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You know, so he
finally stopped talking to
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them and just started
writing them prescriptions.
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It's kind of
discouraging, I would imagine.
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It is
discouraging, but this lady
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needed to know
that she could do it,
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And she was here in
September of 05, you see.
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Was it September?
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It was September of 05,
and she lost over 100 pounds!
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On here diet and
exercise, now that's true grit.
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And she went in
to see her doctor,
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and I don't know
anything about him,
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but he's not real supportive,
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and he was sitting
there at his computer
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saying, Now tell me what was the
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date of your
gastric bypass surgery?
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She said, I didn't. . .
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He said, I've got to enter this
into your history, your record.
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She said, No I did it
with diet and exercise,
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that lifestyle thing.
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He just kind of looked at her,
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didn't say
anything, just went on.
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And see, she said, I
don't get encouragement.
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But I mean, you
know, there isn't time,
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and that's what we're
going to have to do is
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we're going to have to
take care of our own health.
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So she loses all this
weight, she's feeling better,
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then there's a big stress
that comes up in her life,
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and she goes back to
some of her old things.
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We were talking about
that yesterday you know.
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And so she gains
back 20 or 30 pounds.
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She realizes what's
happened in the past,
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and she says, Now
I'm going to go back,
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I don't care what happens
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let's spend the money,
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and I'm going to
go back where I know
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that they can help me, because
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I've done it
before and it works.
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And here she is.
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It's absolutely
a marvelous story,
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I can really relate to her,
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because it happened
with me as you know.
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And I know there are
people watching right now,
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that are saying, Can it help me?
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I would like to
think that, you know
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this isn't snake
oil, this isn't something
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where you come here, and
we give you another pill,
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and you can get well.
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You actually
change your lifestyle
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while you are here
at our NEWSTART program.
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And the doctors
are with you everyday,
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they eat breakfast with you
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they eat lunch, and if
some of you eat dinner,
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they eat dinner with you,
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they help you,
they walk with you,
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and you'll be encouraged.
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So if you have any
doubts, just pick up the phone,
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Dr. Lukens would
love to talk with you,
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I'll talk with you,
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Dr. Ing will talk with you,
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we have a staff
of people at guest
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services that
will chat with you,
00:17:52.34\00:17:54.39
but you got to
pick up that phone,
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call:
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Enough pluggin now,
let's get back to this
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story because I'm
really excited about it.
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Ok, the other thing is, that her
eyesight is going away, you see
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and she has this
terrible pain in her feet
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we call that neuropathy,
diabetic peripheral neuropathy.
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And there's nothing out there
that can give you the gabapentin
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they can give you
the various things
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that they try to
help you with the pain.
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And I've had patients tell me,
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they say there's
nothing you can do,
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what about if I
keep my blood pressure,
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what if I get my diabetes
under control will that help it?
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No we just really
don't know of anything.
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But we did some studies in
the past and we find out that
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the majority of the people
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the pain gets a
lot better or it may
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be completely gone
in four to six days
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Now Doctor, when
she was here at the last
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session, I want to
say in September of 05
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was she walking then
better than she is now?
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We've got to get
a picture of her,
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because you wouldn't
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recognize her
as the same person.
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Really, well she
was 100 pounds heavier.
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Yes more than a
hundred pounds more,
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I didn't recognize
her when I saw her.
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But see this is the
thing, you keep coming back,
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you keep fine tuning it until
you are where you want to be.
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So by the time this session,
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say not this one
but the next session
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because she is
staying for two right?
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- Yes.
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By the time that
second session is over
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will she be able to walk on
her own and under her own power?
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She's already
pretty much doing it.
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She came up from
the clinic this morning,
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and I was
surprised, I expected her to be
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kind of just
pushing her walker along,
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she walked right up to
the top of that incline there,
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and I said, Wow,
don't you need to rest?
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and she said, yes
it's a little bit steep.
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But she just
kept right on going.
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Wow, isn't that
wonderful? - Yes, it's great.
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That's just fantastic,
and she loves the food.
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Yes, and she's
very appreciative,
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she has a good attitude,
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She knows she's
been through it before,
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she knows she can do it
again, and go further this time
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What about her depression?
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are we able to help
her with her depression?
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You know, some of the best
psychiatrists I know and also
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my wife's newsletters say
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with every single
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medication that you
give to the depressed person
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you have to
incorporate exercise.
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Exercise has to be there,
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otherwise the
medications won't work.
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And one of the psychiatrists
that we're associated with
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he said, I would do anything
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if I could get my
patients to exercise.
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He says, I know that my pills
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aren't going to do
that much for them,
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unless they will
exercise as well.
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Well we got an
answer for that one
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for some of you
doctors out there,
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all you need to do is take the
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time and walk
with your patients.
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That's what we do here.
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Dr. Lukens does
it, Dr Ing does it,
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and several other doctors
who fill in from time to time.
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They walk, you walk. . .
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I see you walking
all the time with guests.
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So that's the way
to encourage them,
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you're leading by
example wouldn't you say?
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I'll tell you, you
know in Corinthians it says
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Now abides
faith, hope, and love,
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but the greatest
of these is love.
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We know that, but hope is huge.
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If they are hopeless, and
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discouraged
nothing is going to happen.
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When they get hope,
then they go for it,
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and they get well,
the Lord heals them.
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And I see that
you give them hope,
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I see that you add to that
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and I want to thank you,
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and thank you for
joining us in the studio.
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The Holy Spirit does it.
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Thank you Dr.
Lukens for joining us.
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This is exciting
and we want other
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people to be
encouraged and do it too.
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And thank you
for joining us folks,
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and don't go away,
we'll be right back.
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Welcome to NEWSTART at home,
I'm your host Don Mackintosh,
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we're glad that
you're with us today.
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And today, I'm
delighted that Dr. Neil Nedley
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is with us in the
studio, Welcome Dr. Nedley.
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Thank you, good to be here.
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We're going to talk today
about something that usually an
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internal medicine
specialist isn't known
00:22:11.16\00:22:12.81
for but probably
should be known for
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and that is, how to
deal with your emotions.
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Absolutely,
emotional intelligence, in fact
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how successful people are
at changing their lifestyle for
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the better is intricately
00:22:23.73\00:22:25.36
related to
emotional intelligence.
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It has to do with motivation,
00:22:27.60\00:22:29.42
it has to do with relationships,
00:22:29.72\00:22:31.30
it has to do with
accurate thinking,
00:22:31.63\00:22:33.54
understanding their emotions
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and actually
managing their emotions,
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instead of their
emotions managing them.
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I'm sure that in the acute
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care settings that
you are in this is key,
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for people to get
better, because they are in
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very emotionally draining,
and unstable situations.
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The mind and the
body are connected.
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Now you know you
have these ten distortions
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or you know, thought
processes that can be confused
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and one of the ones that
you list here is mental filter.
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What do you mean by that?
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Well a mental
filter, an example of this is
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I finished the most
grueling task I had ever taken
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anatomy, histology, which is
anatomy under the microscope,
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neuroanatomy, embryology.
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And it was a tough exam,
and when I got out of it,
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I was one of the
last ones out of the exam,
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there was a group of student
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hovered by a girl
that was very emotional
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and I thought she had
been hurt or something,
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she was crying as well.
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And so I went over there
to see what was going on,
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and she was talking
about the test, she could think
00:23:32.36\00:23:35.27
of 17 questions already
that she had gotten wrong,
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and she hadn't even
cracked her book open,
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and so she knew that
she had failed the test.
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And she was going over these 17
questions over and over again.
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With the people there.
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And I realized I had
missed some of those too,
00:23:49.54\00:23:51.45
so I was starting to
wonder about my outcome.
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She just told us that she
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wasn't cut out
to be a physician,
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this proved it, she wasn't
going to be able to do it.
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She went home, she
sobbed the whole two weeks,
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never cracked her
book open, because she
00:24:03.00\00:24:05.03
knew she would even
be devastated further
00:24:05.04\00:24:07.09
but told her parents
she couldn't be a doctor,
00:24:07.39\00:24:09.48
even though she wanted to
be, and they wanted her to be.
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And they had to really
00:24:12.30\00:24:13.42
coerce her back
to medical school
00:24:13.43\00:24:15.06
because she was going
to completely drop out.
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And with trembling hands she
took her test out of her mailbox
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and there it was,
minus 17, 83 percent,
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this is by far the
highest grade in the class.
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And so all of the emotional
problems she caused herself,
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all the emotional
problems she caused us
00:24:33.16\00:24:35.48
and her family, was all due
to the mental filter of focusing
00:24:35.72\00:24:39.24
in on those 17 questions that
she knew she had gotten wrong.
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So the lesson here is be careful
the filter you put on something.
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That's right, and of course,
00:24:47.75\00:24:48.84
we can put an
opposite filter on it.
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Samson told his parents,
00:24:51.15\00:24:53.33
Get her for me, for
she pleases me well.
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And they tried to say,
Well what about her religion?
00:24:57.45\00:25:00.12
Well what about
this? What about that?
00:25:00.57\00:25:02.33
they tried to ask
him some questions,
00:25:02.34\00:25:04.03
is this someone you
really want to marry?
00:25:04.04\00:25:05.78
And he said, She's beautiful
00:25:06.00\00:25:07.75
and she's got a
great personality,
00:25:08.30\00:25:10.12
and with those two things
and further more, I love her.
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And with all of that, you just
knew that it was going to work,
00:25:13.75\00:25:17.06
all those other
things his parents
00:25:17.07\00:25:18.78
were concerned
about were not important.
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He used a mental
filter, and he unfortunately
00:25:21.15\00:25:23.72
never got rid of that
filter when it came to women.
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He went from one to another,
divorce divorce divorce,
00:25:27.06\00:25:30.36
simply due to a mental filter.
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Another one real quick is
disqualifying the positive?
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Yes, now this is even worse.
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Instead of just focusing
in on one aspect of things,
00:25:39.73\00:25:42.06
you know,
almost to the exclusion
00:25:42.24\00:25:43.60
of other which is
what a filter does,
00:25:43.61\00:25:45.15
this actually
acknowledges the other side,
00:25:45.60\00:25:48.63
but then totally discounts it.
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And of course that
can be even more severe.
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I know of someone that I was
seeing in the psychiatric unit
00:25:53.58\00:25:56.60
that told me that no one
cares a whipstitch about me.
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And I told her, Well I do,
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I wouldn't be here if
I didn't care for you,
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there's other things I could do,
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furthermore I know
the staff cares about you.
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And she would say, Those
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people don't count Dr. Nedley
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they're not part
of the real world,
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and no one that's part
of the real world likes me.
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You know, I pointed out
her family had visited her,
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the other patients liked her.
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She said those
people don't count
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Dr. Nedley, they
don't know the real me.
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But she would acknowledge
it and then discount it,
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and of course that can
be a dangerous situation,
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and she needed cognitive
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behavioural
therapy which is a way of
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improving her emotional
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intelligence
before she was discharged.
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Hi I hope you
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I have this
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I'm Jim,
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president here at
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of the wonderful resources
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series on DVD by
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relating to topics like
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