Participants: Ron Giannoni (Host), Bill Strutt
Series Code: NSN
Program Code: NSN000033
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00:24 Hi folks, and welcome to another edition of NEWSTART Now.
00:28 We have an unusual situation here today. 00:31 We're not going to begin as usual. 00:33 We have Bill Strutt in our studio. 00:36 Bill's been at our NEWSTART program now 00:40 for 17 days. Tomorrow's his last day. 00:44 And at the last minute, 00:46 Bill asked if he could be interviewed, 00:48 and what we'll do is interview him now. 00:52 Four months from now we'll interview him again. 00:55 So with no further ado, 00:59 Bill Strutt. How are you, Bill? 01:01 Pleased to meet you. 01:02 My pleasure. Doing great. 01:04 Alright, so why don't we just start from the beginning? 01:07 What events transpired to cause you 01:11 to want to come to NEWSTART program? 01:15 Well, I've been on a lot of medications. 01:19 I've been on 8 medications that I take 13 times a day, 01:24 for diabetes, and for high blood pressure 01:28 and cholesterol, and... 01:30 Eight different medications? 01:31 Yeah, including insulin. 01:33 How many times a day? 01:35 Well, up to 13 times I've taken 01:37 different medications during the day. 01:41 And I've had a hard life... 01:46 I've done a lot of things 01:47 that weren't too good for my body, so.... 01:51 My sister-in-law came through 01:52 theprogram here a number of years ago, 01:55 and she suggested to me after I'd gone to a doctor visit 01:59 and found out that I was going to get 02:02 upped on some more of my diabetes medication, 02:06 to check into it. 02:08 And so that's how I ended up here. 02:11 Okay, so we've got diabetes, 02:14 we've got a little weight problem, okay... 02:16 How about depression? 02:20 Needless to say, that comes with the territory. 02:25 Like I said, I haven't taken very good care 02:27 of my body over the years. 02:29 I'm about 60 pounds overweight, 02:33 I've drank alcohol for many years, 02:38 I just quit smoking a week before 02:40 coming to the NEWSTART program. 02:42 Well, congratulations! 02:44 It's been hard, but I tell you, 02:48 I've quit before. It's been a lot easier here. 02:51 A lot easier. 02:53 Well, this time it's for good. Yes. 02:55 Alright. Okay, so... 02:57 Here we are, we're 17 days into the program. 03:00 This is an unusual interview 03:04 because we generally interview 03:05 our guests when they first arrive. 03:07 However, Bill has agreed to come back, like I said earlier, 03:12 in about 4 months. 03:14 So when you got here, 03:15 I talked to you then. You were pretty down. 03:18 You looked like, "Man, do I need some help." 03:23 Well... 03:25 Tell me now, in these 17 days, 03:28 how we've progressed. 03:29 How many times a day are you taking your medications now? 03:33 I am off all of them now. 03:36 Off all of them. çlaughterÑ You're kidding! 03:38 Every single one of them. 03:39 Including the insulin? 03:41 Yep. The insulin was one of the first to go, 03:44 and then the heart medication, 03:47 then the cholesterol medication. 03:50 Then the doctors, they're so knowledgeable, 03:55 and blessed. 03:57 They've weaned the rest of my diabetes medications down 04:03 to where the doctor took me off the last one three days ago. 04:07 Wow. 04:08 So I'm medication free. 04:10 Well that's it. I'm throwing in the towel. 04:12 Let's get ahold of the media director. 04:14 We don't need him to come back in four months! 04:16 He's already accomplished his goal. 04:18 But you know, that's wonderful. 04:20 I know there are viewers out there 04:23 that are listening to this, 04:24 and it's hard to believe. 04:26 I've seen this now for four years, 04:29 time and time and time again. 04:32 And it's still, even though it happened to me, 04:34 it's still almost unbelievable. 04:38 I'm so happy for you. 04:40 How much weight have you lost? 04:41 I've lost about 10 pounds. 04:43 The weight loss is going a little slower than I'd like, 04:47 but I have the tools 04:49 to be able to take it off. 04:52 It's just going to take time. 04:53 And it takes dedication. 04:55 It takes dedication, 04:56 and most of all it takes the hand of God. 04:59 The mighty hand of God and the guidance. 05:01 Amen. 05:03 So it sounds to me like you've learned our acronym, 05:07 the NEWSTART. 05:09 Let's go over it together, 05:10 because I know the viewers would like to hear this as well. 05:13 So the N is for...? 05:14 Nutrition. 05:16 E is for... 05:17 Exercise. 05:19 Exercise, the biggie! 05:20 And the W is for what? 05:22 Water. 05:24 And the S? 05:25 For sunshine. 05:26 Yes, and T? 05:28 It's for temperance. 05:31 Yeah, you and I know about that. 05:32 That's right, we've got to have temperance. 05:34 A is for? 05:36 Air. 05:37 How long could we live without good air? 05:40 We can't. Not too long. 05:42 And R... 05:43 ...is for rest. 05:45 Rest. Have you learned to rest here? 05:47 I have, I have. 05:49 You're in a situation here where 05:52 you don't have distractions. 05:53 You're in nature. 05:55 You don't have the television, the telephone, 05:59 everything that... All the toys? 06:01 ...to interrupt your life. 06:02 So you can focus on what's at hand. 06:06 And now, for me, the most powerful 06:09 letter of that NEWSTART. 06:11 Trust in God. The T. 06:13 Trust in the divine power. 06:15 You know, I've never shared 06:17 this with you. We haven't talked. 06:21 When I came through the NEWSTART program in '05, 06:26 after I came here I wanted to learn more about 06:29 what these people were doing. 06:30 These doctors that pray with you, 06:33 and the massage therapist, and all these people. 06:36 And I consequently ended up studying the Bible. 06:42 And in November of '05, 06:46 I was baptized, 06:48 which was absolutely wonderful. 06:51 And since then, my entire life has changed. 06:55 I see a similar pattern here. 06:57 Now, we talked before the program began, 07:01 and he's telling me that he was a 07:03 pretty bad guy. 07:06 He doesn't know about me yet. 07:07 I think we'll exchange stories so he won't feel so bad. 07:11 But you know, the Lord is forgiving. 07:15 Jesus said, "Come to me, 07:18 and repent." He is forgiving. 07:22 So you're not such a bad guy. 07:24 You've got a great smile. 07:26 çlaughterÑ Thank you, thank you. 07:28 So where do we go from here? What are you going to do 07:30 between now and 3 or 4 months from now 07:35 when you come back into the studio? 07:38 God willing - We have goals. God willing, 07:41 I'm going to hopefully be 40 pounds less of Bill 07:48 when he sees you again. Yes. 07:49 so we'll be seeing less of you. 07:51 Let's hope so. çlaughterÑ 07:53 But I'm confident 07:56 and assured that that will be the case 07:59 as long as I follow the prescription. 08:03 The prescription is, Follow the vegan diet, 08:07 and exercise. 08:08 Put your trust in God. 08:10 Amen. Get the rest. 08:11 Get the exercise, the nutrition, the water, the air. 08:14 The rest of it all comes together. 08:18 Now, did you even think 08:21 when you got here 08:23 seventeen days ago on Sunday, 08:26 did you think that this was all possible? 08:30 You know, I actually did. 08:33 Did you? 08:35 Because I saw the transformation 08:37 that happened to my sister-in-law 08:39 years ago when she was here. 08:41 She was afflicted with high cholesterol. 08:45 She got on the diet, 08:47 She lost about 35 pounds. 08:50 And your cholesterol is high, right? 08:51 Yes. How many points did it drop? 08:54 I'm within the norms now. 08:56 But the doctor told me if I don't start smoking again 09:01 and if I stay on the diet, I will never 09:02 have to worry about a heart attack. 09:04 So you had high cholesterol when you got here. 09:07 And now you're within normal range. 09:10 Praise God. 09:12 Wow, what a story. 09:14 What a magnificent story. 09:16 It's a miracle, but... 09:17 It is a miracle. 09:19 Miracles happened here every day. 09:21 I've seen a group of people around me 09:23 with many miracles happen. 09:26 So it's amazing. 09:28 Now you have like 20-22 others with you in your group? 09:31 Yes. 09:33 And folks, we generally have 20 to 25 people per session. 09:38 You have a little smaller session, 09:42 and either 20 or 25, it's all the same with us. 09:45 We just put out our hearts to everyone we can. 09:48 A lot of love here. A lot of love. 09:52 Well Bill, I'm just blown away. 09:55 Pardon my expression, but 09:57 I'm very pleased with the results, 10:01 and I just want to praise God for 10:03 the many blessings that He's given you. 10:05 He's given you your life back. 10:08 Thanks for joining us. 10:10 Thank you very much for having me. 10:12 Alright. Well friends, there you have it. 10:14 Don't go away, because in a moment 10:16 we'll be talking to Bill's physician, Doctor Lukens. 10:19 We'll be right back. 10:22 Well, you've done very well. 10:30 Do you have diabetes, 10:31 heart disease, high blood pressure, 10:33 or do you weigh too much? 10:36 Hi, my name is Doctor Ing, 10:37 and I'd like to tell you about 10:39 our 18-day NEWSTART lifestyle program. 10:42 It includes a comprehensive medical evaluation 10:45 with laboratory studies and an exercise stress test, 10:49 physician consultations, 10:51 culinary school, 10:53 and an opportunity to walk on beautiful trails 10:57 in the foothills of the Sierras. 11:00 Your health is one of the most important things that you have. 11:03 Don't wait. 11:04 Give us a call. 11:08 Or visit our website. 11:28 Welcome back friends, and as I promised, 11:30 Doctor Lukens is here with us today. 11:32 Doctor Lukens, how are you, sir? 11:34 Yeah, I'm really excited about talking about this case, 11:36 because it's an amazing... 11:38 Well, you can't be any more excited than I am. 11:40 I mean, this is over the hill, over the top as they say. 11:44 I've seen these for the last four years. 11:46 You've got to tell us, how is this humanly possible? 11:51 Didn't Bill have diabetes for some 10 or 12 years? 11:54 Actually it was 20. 11:56 Twenty years! Yeah. 11:57 And he's on insulin. 11:59 Well, what happened was that he 12:02 did the best he could with the pills. 12:05 He had those, and his last A1c was over 10. 12:10 What the audience knows I don't know, but 12:13 6.5 is where 12:17 diabetes is diagnosed, and we want it 12:19 between 7 and 8. 12:21 And that's not real good control, 12:23 but his was 10. 12:25 So that means that his body was... 12:27 his tissues were dying. 12:30 Now, he was 10 when he got here, right? 12:33 No, before he came. Before he came. 12:35 And then? So then they... 12:37 Because it's a 3-month test. 12:39 A1c is a 3-month test. 12:41 So then his doctors said, "You're just really... 12:44 You're out of control, 12:46 and you've got to add insulin." 12:47 Well nobody wants to add insulin, you know? 12:49 After they do it for a while they realize, 12:51 Well, this isn't the worst thing in the world. 12:53 But it's tough, because 12:56 then when you have the insulin, 12:57 some of the diabetes medications 12:59 don't give you those low blood sugars. 13:01 But you can range between 500 and 50. 13:04 And they just don't know what to do. 13:07 But what's so amazing, and we've seen this before, 13:11 his problem primarily 13:14 was that he was also an alcoholic. 13:16 And we've seen this before. 13:18 When an alcholic has diabetes, they just don't mix. 13:24 So he was on 65 units of the long-acting Lantus. 13:30 And then every meal he was supposed 13:33 to take 9 of the ultra short-acting 13:36 that goes with the meal. 13:37 This was a really good setup to do. 13:39 But he just wasn't able to control his sugars. 13:43 He would get really low ones and then 13:44 he'd get discouraged because they were so high, 13:46 and he'd feel lousy. 13:48 But the thing was is that, 13:50 he quit primarily tobacco and alcohol. 13:55 And you have to do those, and that's another story. 13:57 But you have to do those at the same time. 13:59 We may have talked about that before. 14:02 So he quits those, 14:04 and then his body starts doing the best that it can 14:08 on these whole plant foods, 14:09 the exercise that he's doing, 14:11 and the liver is amazing. 14:13 It just regenerates so fast 14:15 if you give it a chance. 14:17 We've seen this before. 14:18 So here he's on all this medication, 14:22 and about 24 hours later, 14:24 he was having low blood sugar. 14:26 So I said, Let's just stop the insulin for now. 14:30 He was also on the two, metformin and Actos. 14:35 And so, he was on all four 14:36 of those medications at the same time. 14:39 And his blood sugar had been better than 14:41 the 10.8 or whatever it was that he came in on. 14:44 But he just couldn't control the sugars. 14:47 They were just all over the place. 14:49 So we have seen this before. 14:52 And so when he stopped the alcohol 14:54 his liver started to be able to function again, 14:57 and it was amazing. Within just a few days, 14:59 he was off all of his insulin, 15:02 and then we started taking him off the orals. 15:04 His blood pressure was normal, so we 15:06 took him off two of the blood pressure medications he was on. 15:11 And I said, I really want to know what your actual true value 15:16 of your cholesterol is. 15:18 So let's take you off your statin. 15:21 And so we just went down through the list of things. 15:23 And finally he said, "Let's just stop everything." 15:26 And I said, "Let's do it." 15:28 And you can tell he's thrilled. 15:31 What's thrilling is that the numbers are normal now. 15:35 It's not thrilling just that you got rid of your medications 15:39 and you're all out of control and everything. 15:41 It's so good because God blesses when you do His way. 15:46 And when he saw that, 15:49 he's a believer now. 15:50 So here's the question. 15:52 And I want the viewers to hear this answer 15:55 and listen carefully. 15:57 We've got a good question coming up. 15:58 I know there are several people, 16:00 perhaps thousands, millions, watching 16:03 that have the same conditions as Bill. 16:07 Are you telling us that they too have hope? 16:11 Absolutely. 16:14 And a normal diabetic, without all the substance abuses 16:20 thrown in, can do well. 16:23 It takes a little longer, but when you 16:25 have the mix of the alcohol in there just 16:27 irritating the liver and keeping it from doing its work, 16:30 that's the kicker. 16:33 And we've seen that over and over again. 16:36 And perhaps that's why I changed so rapidly, 16:40 because I was alcoholic when I came here. 16:42 But I know there's people watching 16:44 that are drinking alcohol. 16:46 Perhaps you're tossing a beer right now, 16:48 smoking a cigarette, 16:50 and giving up because you have diabetes. 16:52 You think you're going to die soon. 16:54 Well here is a case 16:56 where there's hope. You don't have to give up. 16:59 We can help you here at our NEWSTART program. 17:02 Especially Doctor Lukens. 17:04 The kidneys are suffering from this 17:06 because of his lifestyle and everything. 17:10 I don't know what all. 17:12 He also had a couple of strokes. 17:15 He didn't mention those, but... 17:17 Well, he did have those, 17:18 and that could have been substance abuse. 17:21 He got them from that. 17:22 Fortunately, he didn't have residuas from that. 17:25 So here's somebody, 17:26 and he said that he had a tough life. 17:29 And we wouldn't go into all that stuff. 17:31 Maybe at another time we could. 17:33 He just came here discouraged, 17:36 but what gave him hope was that he saw his sister-in-law 17:40 do so well, and he thought, 17:42 "Maybe it would help me too." 17:45 And he was just... 17:48 There's one thing that I have to say, though. 17:50 Americans are too focused on weight loss. 17:54 He just kept coming to me, 17:55 "Doc, I'm not losing that weight." 17:58 He's not grossly obese, 18:00 but he has this idea. 18:02 But he was out there. He would do up to 10 miles, 18:05 walking. He hadn't done that. 18:08 A lot of walking, building up that muscle, 18:11 getting the sugars down into control. 18:15 What was so good is that now, when he leaves he has hope. 18:20 He's got determination, and he knows that 18:24 What his job was is crawling in and around 18:26 doing alarms, security systems. 18:31 And he said, "I got to the place where, 18:33 here my gut is. It's sticking out there. 18:36 And I haven't got the energy. 18:37 I've got to crawl through all these places." 18:40 "And one day," he said, "I just gave up." 18:43 He said, "I don't think 18:44 that I'm going to be able to do this." 18:46 Because sometimes he'd come to work and he was drunk. 18:50 He was losing it. 18:51 Now we follow him, and he knows that 18:53 we're going to ask him to come back. 18:55 And he's thrilled and we're thrilled. 18:58 We're happy to pass that news on. 19:00 I have to apologize to the viewers. 19:02 I did say before Doctor Lukens came on 19:07 that we were going to have our next meeting with Bill 19:10 four months down the road. 19:11 We may still have that, 19:13 but instead of that being a part of this program, 19:16 we decided to bring Doctor Lukens in, because 19:19 there's such a miracle that has taken place. 19:22 We wanted your opinion, if you will, 19:25 to tell us how these things happen. 19:28 and to once again give people hope 19:31 that they too can get well. 19:34 Yes, and you see, this substance abuse didn't start 19:38 when he was 30 years old or whatever. 19:42 It was through the years, and he did have a tough life. 19:46 And sometimes when you're out 19:47 with your buddies and stuff like that, 19:49 you try a few things. 19:51 And a lot of people in his age group 19:53 try different stuff. But then he got hooked on it. 19:56 And then leaving some of that off, 19:59 then you get the legal ones. 20:01 And he was knocking down a lot of alcohol. 20:04 It was amazing that his body could take as much as he did. 20:08 And then he was smoking. 20:10 Like we said, you have to stop both of those at the same time. 20:14 Now he has hope and he knows that this can happen. 20:19 He's shared with us that he's enjoyed the food, 20:22 he's enjoyed the stay, 20:23 but he put a lot of emphasis 20:25 on the doctors here at the NEWSTART program. 20:28 And I know you as a humble man, 20:30 and you don't want to take any credit, 20:33 but he did salute you on this occasion. 20:37 He's so happy to have met you 20:40 and the NEWSTART program, 20:43 and all assistants and the love that he received here. 20:46 We have those eight natural doctors, 20:48 and you know how powerful they are, 20:50 because they did it to you, 20:51 for you, and with you! 20:53 So there you go. It's tremendous. 20:56 Well, I couldn't agree more. 20:59 To me, the doctors here are wonderful. 21:04 And especially you. 21:06 You're not only my doctor now; you're my friend. 21:09 Well I'm excited for him. 21:10 Yeah, I'm excited for you and him! 21:13 And I'm excited for the viewers, 21:15 because I know some of you have just given up hope. 21:18 Don't give up. 21:20 Don't give up! 21:21 Give us a call. 21:23 And don't go away, by the way. 21:24 We'll be right back with a message. 21:40 Hello and welcome to NEWSTART at Home. 21:41 I'm your host, Don Mackintosh. 21:43 We're glad you're with us today. 21:44 and I'm glad that Rich Kollenberg is 21:46 in the studio with us. Welcome Rich. 21:47 Hi Don. 21:48 Now you're here... What are you here to talk about? 21:50 I'm here to talk about addictions. 21:52 And you have some experience. 21:54 I have a little experience. 21:56 I was an addict for about 25 years of my life. 21:59 I used and abused just about every kind of 22:02 drug or substance that there was. 22:03 Okay. Well, all things work together for good. 22:07 In other words, the Lord can use that. 22:08 I'm glad you're willing to come and talk about it. 22:10 And I'm glad you're still alive, 22:11 because a lot of people that get into addictions, 22:13 they don't make it. 22:15 So I'm glad you're here. 22:16 What is an addiction? 22:17 An addiction is a habit 22:21 that controls you. 22:22 That you don't control, but it controls you. 22:25 When we were talking, you said there's two types of addictions. 22:29 Yeah, there's two different types. 22:30 There's substance addiction, which would be 22:33 drugs, alcohol, coffee, cigarettes. 22:37 And then there's behavioral addictions. 22:38 And behavioral addictions would fall... 22:40 You would have jealousy, 22:42 anger, sexual addictions, gambling, and whatnot. 22:46 Critical type spirit, gossiping, and all those other things. 22:50 Yes, all those type of things are behavioral addictions. 22:52 So, behavioral addictions and substance addictions. 22:56 And you struggled with both of those. 22:58 Very much so. 22:59 They probably go together a little bit. 23:00 They go hand in hand. 23:02 And so, how does that happen? 23:03 A habit to me, as I would think, sounds like a good thing. 23:06 Yeah, habits are our friends, 23:08 but when they turn bad they become addictions. 23:11 What we end up doing is we end up 23:13 following and wanting pleasure 23:15 more than thinking long-term. 23:17 And when we desire that pleasure, 23:19 that can turn into an addiction, 23:22 and we don't think long-term anymore. 23:25 We end up giving ourselves over 23:27 to that pleasure, whatever it may be. 23:29 Whatever satisfaction we get out of gossip, 23:32 whatever satisfaction we get out of a drug, 23:34 or whatever, we give ourselves over to that. 23:36 In fact, the Bible speaks of that 23:38 exact same phrase when it talks about 23:40 the behavioral addictions of Sodom and Gomorrah. 23:43 In Jude 1:7 it says, 23:45 "Even as Sodom and Gomorrah, 23:46 and the cities about them in like manner, 23:49 giving themselves over 23:51 to fornication, and going after strange flesh, 23:54 are set forth as an example, 23:56 suffering the vengeance of eternal fire." 23:58 So we can see the Bible actually talks about 24:00 how they in Sodom and Gomorrah 24:02 gave themselves over to this bad behavior. 24:05 Is it a one-way street? 24:06 So you give yourself over, that's it? 24:08 That's not it. Praise the Lord for that. 24:11 I can remember back... 24:13 I think I'd used about everybody up on the planet. 24:16 I was all alone. 24:17 It was back in 1986, and I was all done. 24:21 My girlfriend wouldn't even see me anymore. 24:24 And I can remember lying facedown 24:27 on my bed, crying out to God, 24:29 "God, help me." 24:30 And He said, "Fourty-one years, your way hasn't worked." 24:33 And so He said, "It's time to try it My way." 24:36 And so I cried out to Him, and He said that 24:42 this is going to work. 24:43 And I didn't know how it was going to work. 24:44 So it was like a 3-word prayer, huh? 24:46 Yeah. God helped me. 24:47 For three months I prayed that 3-word prayer. 24:50 God helped me, and He answered that prayer. 24:52 So that was really your way of giving yourself 24:55 over to something else? 24:56 Exactly. We can't muster up enough 24:58 ego motivation to make it work. 25:01 We have to give ourselves over to something or Someone else. 25:04 I like your little book that you've written here, 25:07 "Clean 7 Steps to Freedom: What Every Addict Needs." 25:11 It's got a picture there of the ladder going up. 25:15 Out of the way you are, 25:16 you gave yourself over to something, 25:18 kind of like the prodigal son. 25:19 "This is what I want, 25:21 I want my inheritance, I want this, I want that." 25:24 And then he changed. 25:26 He says, "Make me one of your servants." 25:27 You kind of had that moment. 25:29 That's right, that's right. 25:31 And it worked out. God put it in my heart 25:33 that I was going to turn 180 degrees. 25:36 And I didn't know. That was my nickname for a while. 25:38 My family called me 180 for a while, 25:40 because everything changes. 25:42 Everything I'd done in my life up to that point was wrong. 25:45 So that's the big first step. 25:47 If you were talking to someone about a first step, 25:49 it's coming to that point 25:51 of saying, "I gave myself over to this, but 25:54 I can give myself over to something else." 25:56 Yeah, acknowledging and admitting 25:58 that you've got a problem. 26:00 Well, I encourage you. 26:02 You've been watching today NEWSTART at Home. 26:06 Get this book. Go to our website, 26:11 and get a copy of this book by just following the links. 26:14 It's got some real practical help in here. 26:16 I want to thank you again for coming, 26:17 being vulnerable and opening up your life here to us. 26:20 My pleasure. 26:21 And you know, what doesn't beat us makes us stronger sometimes. 26:24 You're able to help people as a result. 26:27 And so will you. 26:28 We're glad you've joined us, 26:29 and we hope that as a result of watching today 26:31 NEWSTART at Home, you will have 26:33 a new start at home or wherever you are, 26:35 and your life will turn around. 26:37 You could be on this program someday, 26:39 or be used by God wherever you are. 26:41 Thank you for joining us. 26:50 Hi. I hope you've enjoyed as much as I have 26:53 this edition of NEWSTART Now. 26:55 I'm Jim Brackett, executive vice-president 26:57 here at the Weimar Center. 26:59 I want to take just a moment to give you an idea of some 27:01 of the wonderful resources we have here at the bookstore, 27:04 such as Doctor Nedley's book called Proof Positive. 27:07 Now, in addition to Doctor Nedley's book, 27:09 he has a series on depression recovery. 27:12 We have the NEWSTART lifestyle series on DVD 27:15 by our NEWSTART physicians, 27:17 relating to topics like diabetes, 27:19 heart disease, cancer. 27:20 We have a number of authors who have cookbooks here, 27:24 including some in the raw field. 27:26 Now we'd love to have you stop by 27:27 and visit us for your shopping, 27:29 but you can do it online. 27:32 Click the link that says Bookstore. 27:34 Or use our 800 number. 27:39 And by the way, 27:40 any time your order is $100 or more, 27:43 we'll see that you get free 27:45 the NEWSTART lifestyle cookbook. 27:50 Well friends, that's it for today. 27:52 Thank you for joining us. 27:54 Pick up that phone and call us. 28:00 We'll see you next week. 28:02 In the meantime, God bless you. |
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