Welcome to another
edition of Newstart Now,
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a program that
showcases guests while
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attending our 18 day
lifestyle session here at
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Weimar. My name is
Ron Giannoni and I'll be
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your host today. We
have a special guest
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today, his name is Joe Westbury.
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Joe is the Managing
Editor of our nation's
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oldest Christian newspaper.
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Can we run a clip right now?
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I am only on two units a day.
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A doctor back in
Atlanta told me that I
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didn't have to get on
insulin but it'd be good
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if I did just to
sort of top off my tank.
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And so I am on that,
to just sort of help me
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keep me going
being very aggressive.
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And, but he thinks
that if I could get my
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exercise regime
and stay on the diet,
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I'd be able to get off of it.
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That's what Dr.
Amy told me here also.
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What I like to do,
my long term goal is to
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live a very healthy long life.
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The way stock markets are going,
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I thought I'd
retire at 65, now it's,
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until 2 months ago
at 67 and now the way
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the retirement you
got 401 is now 201.
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I'm pretty much
guarantee I have to go
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to 70 and I've got a
wife, got two young girls
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and so I want to be
there for them as long
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as possible and
then at 70 when I retire,
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I want to be there
for my wife in retirement.
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So they'll be going to school,
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I don't want to be
an univalent or cripple,
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her push me
around in a wheelchair,
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because I live
reckless and I want us to have
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many more years together with a
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very good healthy lifestyle.
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Joe, tell us, how
did you hear about the
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Newstart program.
About five years ago,
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Weimar brought the
reversing diabetics similar
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to Georgia and I was
very skeptical of it and
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checked into it and
thought it was basically
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snake whirling and
really believe it same
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reversing diabetes,
I've always been told you
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got diabetes you
die with diabetes,
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it doesn't go away.
As I checked into it,
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attended the four day seminar,
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I was very
impressed by what I learned,
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put some of those
principles to work in my
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life and I hadn't been
diagnosed too many years
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before I am
struggling to getting the weight
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off, the doctor said I
had to get my weight off
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and said after
what I learned there at
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reversing diabetes seminar,
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I dropped 55 pounds,
I went from 205 to 150,
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which is about
where I am now and it's
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basically from a
discipline of eating a
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healthy meal,
living a good lifestyle and
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exercising daily,
diet and exercise.
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Yes, you share
with me sometime during
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the session that
your sugar level just had
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pretty much
gotten down to normal,
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could you tell me a
little bit about that.
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Before I came here
I was just tired and I
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wouldn't say
depressed but struggling,
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with just the
maintenance and so they
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had gotten high, wake
you up in the morning,
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that would be 150,
160 which that should be
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around 110 or 100
and I've been here for
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16 days and in the
mornings they are running
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between 90 and 110. Fantastic.
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And that's just not by
look that's by applying
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the principles that I
learned here at Newstart.
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And what are some
of the principles you
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learned here at
Newstart and what maybe the
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first day you got
here. Tell us a little bit
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about your
experience. One of the shocks
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is early to bed
and early to rise.
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In bed by 9 O'clock
not forced on you but the
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idea of getting
a good night sleep.
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I had not been
getting a good night sleep
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and not eating a full
dinner before you go to
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bed. Something
adequate but not full,
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good night sleep,
getting up early and
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getting some exercise at home.
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I would walk but
just the idea of there's a
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time and place for
everything in your life,
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there's a time for
rest. I was going to bed
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at 11, 12 O'clock at
night, getting up at 5:30,
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working hard and
just not taking the time
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to slow down. So
that's one of the important
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things about being in
a environment like this
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is learning the
importance of reprioritizing
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what you're doing
and learning some new
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habits. I gotcha, so
did you have your own
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private room here?
Had a private room,
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very nice, private
bath, very well appointed,
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have no problems
with that, great staff,
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very friendly people.
What did you do all day,
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tell us about that.
There are a few hours
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of instruction, you
get a syllabus that you
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go through with each professor.
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He has a
PowerPoint on the screen,
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you go to that follow through,
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you take notes. You
start the morning to get
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exercise, you go to breakfast.
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You have a
devotional period if you want to
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attend it, this is
good spiritual environment,
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nothing is forced on anybody.
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There are people
here of all faiths,
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people of no
faiths. So you bring to the
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table what you're in
your life and you can
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explore that
more if you want to,
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the professors begin,
instructors begin every
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class with prayer. I
was impressed with that,
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during the day
you'll have a doctor's visit
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and doctor will be
to begin that and end it
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with prayer. Again I
was very impressed with
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that, you
learned how to eat good,
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to making good menu choices.
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You go to cooking
class, I used to be a decent
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cook before I got
married, when I got
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married what you
need for that anymore,
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I can't even boil water now,
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but I have learned
some pretty good ways to
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mix tofu with other
ingredients and I think
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I'm a fairly proficient
cook and my wife's gonna
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be very impressed when
I get back and put some
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of these recipes into play.
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Tell us what the food,
how do, do you like the
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food here, was it?
I do like the food,
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when you're
thinking about going vegan,
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you're thinking about
hippies living in trees
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back in the 60s and
70s and you know Euell
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Gibbons and that
whole thing, but the food
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is tasty and I was
eating with one of the staff
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one time and I said
wow, this is really nice.
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This is surprisingly
tasty, he says why do
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you keep saying that,
surprisingly tasty I just,
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I'm not used to it.
Right. But we had some
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really nice meat
substitutes that with the
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gravy and
everything, it was very good.
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That I'm thinking
about taking and making one
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of the chicken
enchilada, not chicken but some
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of the soy, soy curls
they use which is just
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like chicken to
a friend's house,
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when we go out for
Christmas dinner in a
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couple of weeks.
Fantastic. And I'm gonna
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cook it. Well now
other than the lectures and
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such, I understand
you had hydro therapy
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and massage therapy. Never had,
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had 5 treatments
over 16 to 18 days,
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I'd never had a
massage in my life,
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never had hydro therapy.
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We have sauna
treatment, the steam
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bath, you get Epsom salt bath,
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you get excellent
massages, massages with
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stones which, and you
really leave completely
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refreshed and
rejuvenated. It does
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wonders for your
immune system and for
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your circulation.
Fantastic. It's just been,
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that's just been
education itself for me,
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it was I've paid
for many massages for my
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wife but I never
had the benefit of one
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myself. So, they're
wonderful. So you kind
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of eluted to how
you arrived here at the
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Newstart program at Weimar.
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But why did you
choose Weimar specifically or
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I should say the
Newstart program,
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when you had so
many other close to you?
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I've been very
impressed with what I've read
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about Weimar being
endorsed by several
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of the nation's leading
nutritionists and Tico and
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Cambo and others.
And so I've been very
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impressed with
their credibility.
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And so, when you
get endorsed with some
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of the top names
in the profession,
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you shut up and
take notice of it.
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Absolutely. Okay, now
was there anything else
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you would like to
share with us about the
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program that maybe
surprised you or that
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you're quite ready
for? What I can looking for,
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2008 was a tough
year for me, because a lot
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of stress at the
job, being a father,
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being a husband and
I've gotten tired of
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diabetes. I wanted to
just throw it away but
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you can't do that and
I just needed to learn
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some new
discipline. And I wanted to come
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here, I love the idea
of a two week programs,
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you can take that
time out of your life and
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get somewhere to
learn. So break some old
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habits and learn
some new habits and that's
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what I came looking
for and that's what I
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received. Great. I
think now when I go back
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home, fly back
to Atlanta tomorrow,
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when it comes time to
have a church meeting.
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I would have been
able to stand up and say,
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get behind me fried chicken.
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Okay, so you're a
total vegan at this point?
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I am and I really
would like to stay that way.
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Okay. And it's a
progression but I see the
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many benefits of it
and I've been reading
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before I came here
and not just the Newstart
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materials and other
materials in the book
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stores and some self
educated and I felt like
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that's the direction
the nation needs to go.
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Yes, why do you
say that? We're heading
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toward a major lifestyle crisis,
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health crisis in our
nation and it's something
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I was reading about
the other day that the
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new present is
coming, it's going to have to
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deal with is the
threat to the nation's
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economy in the next
10 to 20 years of people
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who are not taking
care of themselves and
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we don't have the
money in the national budget.
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What we need is
money for preventive
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medicine and I am
trying to prevent my
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illnesses that I could,
I want to dodge illnesses
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that I could get
otherwise by having an
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unhealthy lifestyle.
So I think it's important
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for people to take
better care of the bodies,
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take better care of themselves.
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Well Joe, we'd like
to thank you for coming
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here and sharing
with our listening and
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viewing audience. We
hope you will come back
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and visit us again
sometime and thank you
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folks for joining us.
We're gonna take a short
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break and when we come back,
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we're gonna be interviewing with
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Dr. Lukings
right here on the show.
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Well, you have done very well.
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Do you have
diabetes, heart disease,
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high blood pressure or
do you weight too much.
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Hi my name is Dr. Ing,
and I'd like to tell you
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about our 18-day
Newstart Lifestyle program.
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It includes a
comprehensive medical
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evaluations, laboratory
studies and a exercise
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stress test,
physician consultations,
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culinary school and
an opportunity to walk on
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beautiful trials on the
foot hills of the Sierras.
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Your health is one
of the most important
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things that you
have, don't wait.
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Give us a call at 800-525-9192
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or visit our
website newstart.com.
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Welcome back friends,
to my left is Dr Richard
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Lukens, Dr. Lukens
received his medical
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training at the
Loma Linda University in
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California, and went
to Africa for a short trip
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there, ended up
being there 12 years.
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And now Dr. Lukens is with us.
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What took you to
Africa Doc? Well a couple
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of classmates and I,
husband and wife they
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had such a stressful
internship that was at
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the County hospital
and they said let's take
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a year off and I said,
what do you have in mind,
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they said let's got
to Africa and I said,
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Africa? What's in
the Africa? You know they
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said, well we thought
if we went over there,
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we could help out at a
mission hospital and then
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we can you know
make our way back up to
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the game parts
and have a nice time.
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So 12 years later.
Actually it was 15.
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Oh 15. Three years
at a little hospital in
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Western Zambia, which
was really really isolated,
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no electricity, lot
of time no running water.
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Four hundred miles
to the grocery store and
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that's all the part
of the reason why these
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people are so healthy,
they have to grow their
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own food and then
after three years we went
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down to a little
country called Lesotho and we
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worked in one of
our really nice mission
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hospitals where we
had nurses training.
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And one of the things
that we were there for
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12 years, six years
in the hospital and then
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doing public health
work, which is really,
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really important
because that's what the
00:13:04.24\00:13:05.85
people need over
there. But anyway the
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recurrent thing was
I kept looking back and
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seeing the people in
the university hospital
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and the diseases
that they had. Our member
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had a really good
experience on cardiology,
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we had people just
come in and they would just
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die right there you
know. Right in front of us,
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and I thought you
know I don't see any heart
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attacks over here
and or in the 15 years
00:13:27.38\00:13:30.60
we were there. There
were two people that had
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bonafide heart
attacks and they just don't
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have it. Dr. Castelli
says the reason why is
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that their
cholesterol is below 150 and
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Dr. T Colin
Campbell in the China study,
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same thing
there low cholesterol,
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no plugged up
arteries, no coronary artery
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disease. By in large,
and so and also in the
00:13:49.76\00:13:54.12
two hospitals I was
in, there was nobody had
00:13:54.13\00:13:56.76
ever found a gal stone
and diabetes was almost
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unheard of in
Zambia. And down in the,
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and Lesotho where
other hospital was,
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they could get more
of the foods from across
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the borders, so
they had more oil and had
00:14:10.37\00:14:12.97
more sugar and
refined products in their
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diet, but not a lot,
so we didn't see a lot.
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The thing when I
got back here you know,
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I started looking at
the patients and they
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came in with
obvious heart disease.
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I mean you could see
somebody walking along
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and they were, they
couldn't breathe and
00:14:28.20\00:14:30.45
you look down at
their ankles and they were
00:14:30.79\00:14:32.40
swollen and a lot
of them had diabetes.
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That's one of
their biggest causes of
00:14:36.69\00:14:38.72
coronary artery
disease and I kept thinking
00:14:38.73\00:14:41.69
you know, I've got to
tell these people what
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the Africans are
doing, so that they could do
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the same thing. And
I've been here almost 20
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years now and the
more I see lifestyle,
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the more I see
what exercise is huge.
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That's the biggest
thing that you can possibly
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do, that will give you
courage to do everything
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else, you'll start feeling good.
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And you have got
to have the diet and
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that's so the two main
things that the Africans
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had that were
different. They didn't have
00:15:08.41\00:15:10.37
any transportation,
they had to walk and
00:15:10.38\00:15:13.33
sometimes the old
who would put on wares,
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you know fruits and vegetables,
00:15:16.81\00:15:18.58
and she had walked 10
kilometers to the put it
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in this tangent and
walked 10 kilometers
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to the market and
then 10 kilometers back.
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That's, you know
that's 12 plus miles in one
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day and then all the
greens that they ate.
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They just didn't have
any osteoporosis either.
00:15:34.19\00:15:36.44
So I am thinking how
can I help the people
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here to do this. And
it turns out that we can,
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when they, I saw people come
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in a wheelchair or on oxygen.
00:15:46.53\00:15:48.76
Five different
medications for their
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blood pressure and
literally from Monday
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when we first see
them until Thursday when we
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see them the second
time, we may have to
00:16:02.15\00:16:04.33
take them off of 2, 3,
4. Sometimes even all of
00:16:04.34\00:16:07.93
their hypertensive
medications as they
00:16:07.94\00:16:10.13
can't stand up.
Why is this happening?
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While one of the
biggest and best things
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that I ever found
about was from Dr. Crainer,
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a researcher
here. The tiny little
00:16:18.25\00:16:20.30
blood vessels that
are only a diameter,
00:16:20.31\00:16:23.44
three red blood
cells and that's tiny,
00:16:23.45\00:16:26.67
tiny there is. It's
only 18 microns per red blood
00:16:26.68\00:16:29.50
cell, they dilate up
to the diameter of 4 red
00:16:29.51\00:16:33.37
blood cells and
that's like taking out a
00:16:33.38\00:16:36.35
plugged up filter.
So when you do that
00:16:36.36\00:16:39.80
the pressure drops
dramatically and the
00:16:40.58\00:16:42.97
flow increases, so
where does that flow go?
00:16:42.98\00:16:45.97
It goes into the
brain, goes into the heart,
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it goes into the
kidneys. I can't remember,
00:16:49.33\00:16:52.18
I think Gloria was the
first one that came and
00:16:52.86\00:16:55.57
she had
everything wrong with her,
00:16:56.43\00:16:58.20
she came in an RV.
She was too sick to sit up
00:16:58.21\00:17:01.88
and her blood urea
nitrogen was in the high
00:17:02.70\00:17:06.07
90s and I said Gloria,
why aren't you on dialysis.
00:17:06.08\00:17:08.82
She said because I have
congestive heart failure,
00:17:09.24\00:17:11.32
I didn't think
that I could do it.
00:17:11.70\00:17:12.97
She was ready
for dialysis and we
00:17:13.35\00:17:16.05
followed her for
7 years she never
00:17:16.07\00:17:18.54
had to have
dialysis. And some people the
00:17:18.55\00:17:22.94
most dramatic one,
even was this year,
00:17:22.95\00:17:25.20
I saw somebody with
such terrible congestive
00:17:25.80\00:17:30.61
heart failure
and it had only been
00:17:30.62\00:17:32.09
since last
November. November of '07,
00:17:32.10\00:17:35.01
didn't even know he
had a heart disease.
00:17:35.51\00:17:37.02
He had put on 40 pounds of water
00:17:37.68\00:17:42.31
congested in his
lungs, you can push your
00:17:42.89\00:17:45.21
fingers into his abdomen leaves,
00:17:45.22\00:17:47.14
leaves dense in his abdomen.
00:17:47.76\00:17:49.29
In fact he went to
wearing bib overalls,
00:17:49.74\00:17:51.81
because he couldn't
put his pants on anymore.
00:17:52.44\00:17:54.56
And while he was
here we weighed him on a
00:17:54.97\00:17:56.78
very accurate scale, he
lost 40 pounds of water.
00:17:56.95\00:18:00.97
That's, I've never
seen it, couldn't even
00:18:00.98\00:18:02.92
imagine something like
that and he got his life back.
00:18:02.93\00:18:06.13
Before he left and
walking from the clinic
00:18:06.14\00:18:08.94
which is just a short
distance up to the lodge,
00:18:08.95\00:18:11.37
took him 20 minutes
when they decided to do it.
00:18:11.70\00:18:14.17
And at the end of the
time he was off of most
00:18:14.83\00:18:17.34
of his medications
and he was able to walk
00:18:17.35\00:18:19.80
slowly for a mile. I
mean that's a miracle
00:18:19.81\00:18:23.29
and people see that
happen and they start
00:18:23.89\00:18:25.59
praising God because they know
00:18:25.60\00:18:27.58
that it is his
program. They know that they are
00:18:28.07\00:18:31.12
doing the right
thing, they know that this is
00:18:31.13\00:18:33.35
the truth and they
know that his policies.
00:18:33.36\00:18:36.43
He said if you
will give you to my
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commandments, if you
will keep my statues,
00:18:38.78\00:18:41.99
none of these
diseases be upon you because
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I am the Lord your
God who healeth thee.
00:18:46.46\00:18:49.23
And you know what we
do here is not doctor,
00:18:50.06\00:18:53.87
doctor stuff, we're
primarily cheerleaders
00:18:53.88\00:18:56.61
and we see these
people and they're rejoicing
00:18:57.55\00:18:59.82
and we're encouraging them on.
00:18:59.83\00:19:01.26
Doc, would you
say there was a common
00:19:01.92\00:19:04.01
denominator with
all these diseases that
00:19:04.02\00:19:07.25
that you're looking at
here at the Newstart program?
00:19:09.05\00:19:11.24
Well, you know
there's only one diet that the
00:19:11.97\00:19:14.59
Lord ever said was the
perfect and that was the
00:19:14.60\00:19:16.35
eating diet and
that's whole plant foods.
00:19:16.36\00:19:20.41
Eating whole simply
and naturally prepared
00:19:21.01\00:19:23.39
and then the
exercise, I mean that's what we
00:19:23.93\00:19:25.55
were supposed to do you know.
00:19:25.56\00:19:26.89
We're suppose to be gardeners,
00:19:27.50\00:19:28.84
we're supposed to do
all kinds of wonderful
00:19:28.85\00:19:32.25
activities and we see
it very, very quickly,
00:19:32.26\00:19:37.18
I know we're almost
out of time, but I have a
00:19:37.19\00:19:39.62
classmate in
Southern California and she is
00:19:39.63\00:19:43.75
pediatrician, that
means she doesn't have any 18
00:19:43.76\00:19:46.12
year olds, everybody
is younger than that and
00:19:46.13\00:19:48.10
she says she has 200
people in her clinic that
00:19:48.11\00:19:52.47
have type two
diabetes. That's the one we used
00:19:52.48\00:19:55.48
to say for older
people maturity-onset,
00:19:55.49\00:19:58.38
overweight, lack of
exercise and she says
00:19:58.56\00:20:01.85
we can control their
diabetes but we can't
00:20:01.86\00:20:04.57
stop their heart attacks when
00:20:04.58\00:20:05.76
they're 30 years of
age. She said they're gonna
00:20:05.77\00:20:08.30
start having heart
attacks and we're gonna
00:20:08.31\00:20:09.81
lose them, that's how bad it
00:20:09.82\00:20:12.24
is we got to do something.
00:20:12.25\00:20:13.59
We've got to
change and people don't
00:20:14.40\00:20:16.77
know about it,
medicine and insulin,
00:20:16.78\00:20:20.56
the pills in the
insulin. As far as diabetes is
00:20:20.57\00:20:24.29
concerned, hands down
lifestyle wins over it.
00:20:24.30\00:20:27.23
Is there something
that the folks, the viewers
00:20:28.24\00:20:30.47
can do on their
own right now, today?
00:20:30.48\00:20:33.39
Right now, get up
every day and walk for 10
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minutes and do that
twice a day, doesn't
00:20:37.78\00:20:42.05
matter when you do it,
if you go from very low
00:20:42.06\00:20:46.18
physical fitness and
you will walk 15 minutes
00:20:46.19\00:20:50.50
twice a day or do 30 minutes,
00:20:50.51\00:20:53.65
several days of the week.
00:20:55.18\00:20:56.15
Most days of the
week, your level of
00:20:56.46\00:20:58.36
fitness like this very low,
00:20:58.37\00:20:59.99
it'll just go up just like that.
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Wow. Tremendous,
start with the exercise
00:21:02.15\00:21:05.35
and you're gonna start
feeling better and you're
00:21:05.36\00:21:07.42
gonna have courage
to you know leave that
00:21:07.43\00:21:10.09
junk food behind and
eat more of those fruits
00:21:10.81\00:21:13.88
and veggies and God is
there to help you and he
00:21:13.89\00:21:17.61
is gonna do it,
he is gonna help you.
00:21:17.62\00:21:19.34
Well Dr. Lukens, I
wanna thank you for
00:21:20.66\00:21:22.85
joining us today.
That's really my privilege to
00:21:23.36\00:21:25.30
talk about this. Yes. I love it.
00:21:25.31\00:21:26.98
And I wanna thank
our viewing audience for
00:21:27.60\00:21:29.72
joining us with our
Newstart Now program;
00:21:29.73\00:21:33.26
we'll look forward
to seeing you next week.
00:21:33.91\00:21:35.99
Thank you very
much, remember keep
00:21:36.78\00:21:39.43
walking, drink plenty
of water and God bless you.
00:21:39.44\00:21:43.04
Hello, welcome to Newstart Now,
00:21:57.98\00:21:59.22
I am Don Mackintosh.
We're glad you're with
00:21:59.23\00:22:00.81
us and we're gonna be
talking about the heart
00:22:00.82\00:22:02.66
today and heart
disease and joining me is
00:22:02.67\00:22:04.98
Dr. Brian
Schwartz, currently in Ohio.
00:22:04.99\00:22:07.84
We're glad you are
with us and you are a
00:22:07.85\00:22:08.86
cardiologist which
means you look at the
00:22:08.87\00:22:10.77
heart everyday. That's right.
00:22:10.78\00:22:12.07
Thanks for
joining us first of all.
00:22:12.76\00:22:13.96
You're welcome. And
we're gonna talk today
00:22:13.97\00:22:16.10
about heart disease
but you know people out
00:22:16.11\00:22:18.75
there; there's a lot
of people that have heart
00:22:18.76\00:22:20.38
disease in
America. How many would you
00:22:20.39\00:22:21.72
say there are?
More than 100 million
00:22:21.73\00:22:24.81
have some form of heart
disease, 1 out of 5 adults.
00:22:24.82\00:22:27.90
So another word for
those 1 out of 5 there
00:22:28.07\00:22:29.75
are watching today
or know someone has
00:22:29.76\00:22:31.57
heart disease, is
it possible to stop or
00:22:31.58\00:22:34.24
reverse it? Now
that's a good question,
00:22:34.25\00:22:36.30
so much of modern
American medicine is
00:22:36.31\00:22:38.14
focused on just
treating the signs and the
00:22:38.15\00:22:39.86
symptoms and in
fact when I went through
00:22:39.87\00:22:43.55
my training it wasn't
thought to be possible
00:22:43.56\00:22:45.82
to reverse the process,
it takes 40, 50, 60 years to
00:22:45.83\00:22:49.28
develop the plaque
that leads to heart attacks
00:22:49.29\00:22:51.13
and to heart disease
but recently some studies
00:22:51.14\00:22:54.04
have shown great
promise, that the ability
00:22:54.05\00:22:57.05
to actually start
reversing the plaque
00:22:57.06\00:22:58.52
that's in the
arteries. So it could be stopped
00:22:58.53\00:23:00.55
and it could be
reversed, well give us
00:23:00.56\00:23:02.21
some more good news
doctor, what can we do
00:23:02.22\00:23:03.73
to see that happen?
Absolutely, so first of
00:23:03.74\00:23:07.31
all because it is a
very slow process to develop
00:23:07.32\00:23:09.42
plaque in the arteries
it's not going to go away
00:23:09.43\00:23:11.10
with overnight. But
the good news is if you can
00:23:11.11\00:23:13.32
reverse the plaque it's
in there by even 5 or 10 %
00:23:13.33\00:23:16.58
that can dramatically
improve the amount of
00:23:16.59\00:23:18.41
blood flow that
goes through the heart.
00:23:18.42\00:23:19.76
And so studies have
shown that by being on
00:23:20.29\00:23:23.54
a very low fat
diet, by exercising and
00:23:23.55\00:23:27.67
reversing the risk
factors such as control
00:23:27.68\00:23:29.88
diabetes, obesity
and lack of exercise.
00:23:29.89\00:23:32.44
By getting the LDL
cholesterol down to
00:23:33.44\00:23:35.48
extremely low levels,
levels that used to be
00:23:35.49\00:23:37.85
considered
unhealthy. So, LDL's the lousy
00:23:37.86\00:23:40.43
density proteins
that's the bad stuff.
00:23:40.69\00:23:42.61
That's right.
Right. LDL yes is the bad
00:23:42.62\00:23:45.62
cholesterol that leads
to plaque in the arteries.
00:23:45.63\00:23:47.37
So by getting that
down, then what happens?
00:23:47.38\00:23:49.98
It can actually start
to absorb the cholesterol
00:23:51.69\00:23:53.94
plaque that's in the
arteries and gradually
00:23:53.95\00:23:55.69
those arteries can
open back up and expand.
00:23:55.70\00:23:58.00
Now someone told me
that the real issue with
00:23:58.87\00:24:00.65
heart disease is the
nitric oxide at the tissue
00:24:00.66\00:24:03.71
level right there,
right next to the, you know
00:24:03.72\00:24:06.87
the, what you call the surface.
00:24:06.88\00:24:09.07
The Endothelium,
the lining of the heart.
00:24:09.08\00:24:10.07
The lining of those
vessels is that true?
00:24:10.08\00:24:12.04
That nitric oxide plays
a very important role in
00:24:12.76\00:24:15.58
the regulation of
normal capillary and blood
00:24:15.59\00:24:18.73
vessel flow but
as plaque develops
00:24:18.74\00:24:21.79
that impairs the
ability to release nitric oxide
00:24:22.24\00:24:24.97
and so the more
plaque in an artery, the more
00:24:25.42\00:24:28.03
impaired that is and it doesn't
00:24:28.04\00:24:29.53
have as much effect.
And but if you reverse
00:24:29.54\00:24:31.80
it, can it start coming back,
00:24:31.81\00:24:32.98
you get more nitric oxide?
00:24:32.99\00:24:34.41
Studies are just
beginning to look
00:24:35.87\00:24:36.97
on that level to show
that but I would expect
00:24:36.98\00:24:40.47
that as the
plaque reverses that the
00:24:40.48\00:24:43.06
capillary flow is
gonna improve, the overall
00:24:43.07\00:24:44.86
flow to the heart
tissue itself is gonna improve
00:24:44.87\00:24:46.94
and even a very slight
change in the amount of
00:24:47.54\00:24:49.86
blood that gets
through, that can be a big
00:24:49.87\00:24:51.96
improvement to the symptoms that
00:24:51.97\00:24:53.74
a patient may have.
So, you can stop it and
00:24:53.75\00:24:57.20
you can reverse it
through you've said diet
00:24:57.21\00:24:59.70
and some of the
lifestyle things anything else
00:24:59.96\00:25:01.83
that can help
us? Yeah, a big trial
00:25:01.84\00:25:03.48
in the cardiology
literature about 2 years
00:25:03.49\00:25:06.11
ago was the Asteroid trial.
00:25:06.12\00:25:07.80
Asteroid sounds
out of this world,
00:25:08.33\00:25:09.61
what was that one?
It did, we actually
00:25:09.62\00:25:11.20
took a little ultrasound
probes that could study
00:25:11.21\00:25:13.85
the lining of the heart
to see where those plaques
00:25:13.86\00:25:15.97
were, it measured a
group of patients that
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were on a heart
healthy diet as well as the
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potent cholesterol
lowering in medications
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and that was the
first large scale study that
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could, that proved
that you can reverse as
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much as 7% in the two
year period the volume
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of plaque in those
arteries. Just by diet?
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By diet in a potent
cholesterol medication
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in that study.
So you get that done
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rapidly and then you
change your diet and it
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just have amazing
result. It can have very
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amazing effects.
Can someone become
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heart attack proof?
You can do absolutely
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everything right and
still possibly have a
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heart attack there is
no guarantee, it's dealing
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with probabilities
but the more you put these
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lifestyle factors in
the practice, know your
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cholesterol, make
sure your blood pressure is
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controlled, control
obesity, exercise, be on
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a good diet. It
becomes a much less likely to
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have a heart attack.
Any final word on terms
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of stopping or reversing
that you'd like to add.
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Basically the,
you should get your
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cholesterol checked
at least once a year and
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know your blood
pressure, know your
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cholesterol numbers
and do what's necessary
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to get that LDL,
less than 70, the HTL up
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about 45 all though
ideally it should be the
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higher the better, up above 60.
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With exercise you can do that.
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With exercise it
will go up, certain foods,
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particularly a
plant based diet and if
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necessary a cholesterol
lowing medication can
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have a big affect.
So, good news you can
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stop and even
reverse heart disease,
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the evidence is coming
in. We're glad that you
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had join us,
there's more information on
00:26:48.84\00:26:50.17
our website newstart.com,
00:26:50.18\00:26:51.89
thank you Dr.
Schwartz for being with us and
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taking time out of
your practice and we hope
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that as a result
of today's program
00:26:56.06\00:26:57.66
you can have a Newstart Now.
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Hi, I hope you've enjoy
this much as I have this
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edition of Newstart
now. I'm Jim Brackett,
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Executive Vice President
here at the Weimar Center.
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I'm gonna take just
a moment to give you an
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idea of some of the
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have here at the
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Dr. Nedley's book
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Now, in addition to
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a series on
Depression Recovery, we have the
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