Participants: Pr. Dwight Nelson
Series Code: NP
Program Code: NP082507
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00:26 I will follow
00:30 I will listen 00:35 I will love You 00:39 all of my days 00:42 I will sing 00:43 I will sing to and worship 00:47 The King who is worthy 00:52 I will love and adore Him 00:56 I will bow down before Him 01:00 I will sing to and worship 01:04 The King who is worthy 01:09 I will love and adore Him 01:13 I will bow down before Him 01:17 You're my Prince of Peace 01:19 And I will live my life for You 01:27 We're gonna try the echo now. 01:28 You are holy, sing. 01:29 You are holy You are holy 01:34 You are mighty You are mighty 01:38 You are worthy You are worthy 01:42 Worthy of praise Worthy of praise 01:45 Say with me I will follow. 01:48 I will follow I will follow 01:50 I will listen I will listen 01:55 I will love You I will love You 01:59 All of my days 02:01 I will sing to and worship 02:03 I will sing to and worship 02:07 The King who is worthy 02:11 I will love and adore Him 02:16 I will bow down before Him 02:20 I will sing to and worship 02:24 The King who is worthy 02:28 I will love and adore Him 02:32 I will bow down before Him 02:37 You're my Prince of Peace 02:39 And I will live my life for You 02:43 You're my Prince of Peace 02:45 You're my Prince of Peace 02:47 And I will live my life for You 02:53 You're my Prince of Peace 02:56 And I will live my life for You 03:48 Above all powers 03:52 Above all kings 03:56 Above all nature 03:58 And all created things 04:03 Above all wisdom 04:06 And all the ways of man 04:12 You were here before the world began 04:18 Above all kingdoms 04:21 Above all thrones 04:25 Above all wonders 04:27 The world has ever known 04:32 Above all wealth 04:35 And treasures of the earth 04:40 There's no way to measure 04:43 What You're worth 04:46 Crucified. 04:48 Crucified 04:51 laid behind the stone 04:54 You lived to die 04:58 Rejected and alone Like a rose 05:03 Trampled on the ground 05:08 You took the fall 05:11 And thought of me above all 05:22 Above all powers 05:26 Above all kings 05:29 Above all nature 05:31 And all created things 05:36 Above all wisdom 05:38 And all the ways of man 05:44 You were here before the world began 05:50 Above all kingdoms 05:53 Above all thrones 05:57 Above all wonders 05:59 The world has ever known 06:04 Above all wealth 06:06 And treasures of the earth 06:12 There's no way to measure 06:14 What You're worth 06:19 Crucified 06:22 laid behind the stone You lived to die, 06:29 Rejected and alone Like a rose, 06:34 Trampled on the ground 06:38 You took the fall 06:42 And thought of me above all 06:50 Crucified 06:53 Laid behind the stone You lived to die 07:00 Rejected and alone Like a rose 07:05 Trampled on the ground 07:09 You took the fall 07:12 Just point to yourself. 07:13 And thought of me 07:15 You took the fall 07:16 You took the fall 07:18 And thought of me 07:20 And thought of me 07:22 You took the fall 07:23 You took the fall 07:27 And thought of me 07:31 Above all Like a rose, 07:39 Trampled on the ground 07:44 You took the fall 07:48 And thought of me 07:52 Above all 07:59 Thank you, Jesus. 11:58 All right, let me plunge right into it. 12:00 I'm gonna go to the mail bag this morning if you don't mind. 12:03 I tell you what, after preaching last Sabbath's sermon 12:07 and a bunch of you weren't here, 12:08 but I have got a lot of mails, 12:10 I've got emails, I've got snail mails 12:12 and I've got drop it by the office mails. 12:15 I guess the moral of the story is 12:16 when you preach an entire sermon from a rocking chair 12:19 you are bound to hear from somebody. 12:21 And that's what I did this week. 12:23 Thank you, for all your mail, 12:24 many of you thank you, thank you, thank you. 12:27 I'm gonna share a couple letters with you, 12:29 just a couple letters. 12:32 I have contacted the writers of these letters by the way 12:35 and I've asked permission to share the letters. 12:37 Now one name I'm gonna share with you for obvious reasons 12:40 I'm gonna keep one writer anonymous, all right. 12:43 Let me read these letters to you. 12:44 "Hi, Pastor Dwight." 12:45 Oh, this is a letter from, 12:47 this is a letter from the manager. 12:48 Listen to this. 12:49 The Manager of the Talent Management 12:50 and Organizational Performance Department, 12:53 Whirlpool North America. 12:56 All right, her name is Danae Atkins, 12:59 she happens to be a member here at Pioneer Memorial Church. 13:01 And Danae wrote me a note 13:02 this last week, sent me an email. 13:03 "Hi, Pastor Dwight, I'm excited 13:05 about the sermon series you started last Sabbath." 13:07 Hallelujah, the good news, Danae is it started last Sabbath 13:11 and it ends today this is it just these two, 13:13 it's not a long series. 13:15 But something is very important 13:16 I'm about to share with you. 13:18 So I'm glad you're exited. 13:19 As Danae goes on "I think it's vitally important 13:22 my husband Andy and I joined a small group for about a year 13:25 when we were first married and it was so valuable to us. 13:28 At first we wanted to share about the time commitment, 13:30 but it turned out to the fellowship." 13:31 And she lists all these people that were in the group. 13:34 "Was exactly what we needed at that point in our lives. 13:37 Plus like you mentioned in your sermon 13:39 'meeting more people 13:40 and recognizing more smiling faces 13:42 on Sabbath helps you feel more connected 13:44 to another wise overwhelmingly large congregation.'" 13:47 And yes, that true, yep, that's the reality, 13:49 we know that for a large congregation like this. 13:53 She said "Look, I found your mention of Starbucks." 13:57 So she is kind of referencing, 14:00 talking about Starbucks last week. 14:01 By the way I got from five of you 14:04 this is rather coincidental, 14:06 but the Sunday paper the very next day 14:08 had a huge nationally syndicated column 14:10 written by Terry Mattingly 14:12 that compares Starbucks to the Christian church. 14:16 And so five of you ripped that out and sent it to me. 14:18 Thank you very much. 14:20 Now interesting story in that column, interesting story 14:25 a pastor up in the Puget Sound in Washington State 14:28 he has formed a church, he calls it St. Arbucks. 14:30 You take the ST of a Starbucks St. Arbucks. 14:34 And he is focusing on creating this median space. 14:37 Remember this little two part 14:38 is called the front porch median space, 14:41 the space between my private world at home 14:43 and my public world at work and school 14:44 wherever, there needs to be median space 14:46 and that's why for this generation 14:48 Starbucks is so successful. 14:49 So Danae she says "I found you mentioning Starbucks 14:52 as the new front porch extremely interesting. 14:55 As part of the classes I teach at Whirlpool." 14:57 Listen to this. 14:58 "We talk about consumer insights 15:00 and why they are so important. 15:02 Starbucks is an example that we point to of a company 15:05 that did an extremely good job 15:08 of uncovering core insights about its consumers 15:10 and then crafting its business around these insights." 15:14 Now she quotes from the Starbucks manual. 15:16 "In fact Starbucks main insight was" here she quotes. 15:19 "Starbucks is not a product sold in a coffee shop 15:23 rather an experience marketed in a third space 15:26 between home and work 15:28 where people can gather and relax." 15:32 So she writes here mentioned the Starbucks is right on. 15:34 Thank you, Danae. 15:35 Isn't that something, that's what Starbucks is about, 15:37 it's this third space, it's this median space. 15:41 And like we talked a little bit about that last Sabbath, 15:44 if you weren't here last Sabbath this is just a two part. 15:46 I'd love you to get both parts, 15:48 so I'm gonna put it on the screen 15:49 just for one second 15:50 and then I gonna plunge into the second letter. 15:52 But there is our website on the screen www.pmchurch.tv 15:56 go to that website and you're looking 15:58 for a little two part called the Front Porch. 16:00 There is one and two, that's it. 16:02 You can download those to your iPod, 16:04 listen to them at your leisure. 16:06 Kind of ruminate with me will you 16:08 about this call to the front porch? 16:11 That I believe Holy Scripture is sounding to us. 16:15 All right, two letters. 16:16 This letter is gonna remain anonymous. 16:18 This letter writer "Pastor Nelson, 16:21 I listen to your sermon via the radio this morning. 16:26 I'm must tell you why I resorted to listening 16:28 to the sermon on the radio this morning. 16:30 I have been an active member at Pioneer 16:32 for seven years this month." 16:35 All right, not a stranger. 16:38 "I've been an active member here 16:39 although I sit among 3,000 people each Sabbath 16:42 the worship experience is usually painfully lonely for me. 16:47 There are many times when I skip church 16:49 for several weeks at a time 16:50 and allow the radio or the television 16:52 spiritual feed me during the Sabbath hours. 16:55 I don't want to be a Sabbath recluse. 16:58 One of the highlights of my Pioneer experience 17:00 is when I was in a small group and she lists the leader. 17:02 A few years ago I attempted to join a small group this year, 17:05 but my work schedule overruled, I love Pioneer. 17:08 I will miss the glorious music and thought provoking messages. 17:12 I will also miss the people I greet in passing, 17:15 but at this stage in my life 17:17 I need more than passing relationships, 17:19 I need to feel the sense of belonging, 17:21 I need to experience abundance, 17:24 spending most Sabbaths being lonely and depress 17:26 can no longer be an option for me. 17:29 And so last week 17:30 I submitted a request to have my membership transferred 17:34 and she list a church in another town nearby. 17:36 I'm hoping that a smaller church will provide 17:38 the sense of community that I am seeking. 17:40 Pray for me please as I venture beyond 17:43 the comfort zone of pioneer." 17:44 And she signs her name. 17:48 I guess not everybody 17:50 feels like this is a place where you can belong. 17:58 America is a nation in search of a front porch 18:01 and guess what, so are we as a church in America 18:05 we got a 100 nations here Africa included, 18:08 but we're all people that we've been wired 18:10 and shaped to hunger for front porch. 18:15 Here somebody says, you know, 18:16 I just couldn't find one around here. 18:18 I think I'll go somebody, somewhere else 18:20 after seven years, ouch. 18:26 I told you last week I've been reading this book 18:27 by Joseph Myers "In Search of Belonging." 18:30 Rethinking small groups and intimacy and community. 18:34 It was in that book that I came across the study 18:37 and research of a social scientist name Edward T. Hall. 18:40 I've never heard of him before 18:42 but he is the guy who came up with the proxemics. 18:45 What are proxemics? 18:47 Proxemics have to do with proximity, proximity. 18:50 He studies human proximities 18:52 how we moving relationship to each other 18:54 and Edward T. Hall is the man who came up 18:56 with the four spaces, the four spaces. 19:00 He says in every life 19:02 we need to belong in four different spaces. 19:04 We have number one, our public space, 19:06 you got to belong there. 19:07 We have number two, our social space, 19:09 you need to belong there. 19:10 Number three, we've got personal space. 19:12 And number four, we have intimate space. 19:16 Now I want to illustrate, 19:17 I want to illustrate this for a moment 19:19 and I need a volunteer. 19:22 Thank you, Pastor Tim, 19:23 could you come up here please? 19:25 I don't know why you are so quick to volunteer. 19:27 That is incredible. 19:28 He is Pastor Tim our campus Chaplin. 19:31 Tim. 19:32 Yes please. No, no. 19:34 Save the personal space to later, Tim. 19:36 All right, okay, so, Tim, let's illustrate four spaces. 19:40 There you are, now I-- 19:42 Edward T. Hall says public spaces 12 feet to infinity. 19:47 All right, so we got to be at least 12 feet apart. 19:49 That is public space. 19:51 Let me tell you about belonging in public space. 19:53 I happen to be a New York Yankees fan. 19:55 Don't hold that against me. 19:56 But if I would ever go-- well, bless your heart. 20:00 I already feel at home in this very public space. 20:03 All right, okay, now don't get close yet. 20:09 When I go to public space, let's say I go to Yankees game 20:11 which is really hard to do, 20:12 but let's say I go to a Yankees game 20:14 I don't have to touch you, I don't have to hear from you, 20:16 I don't have to have you shake my hand, 20:17 say I'm so glad you're here. 20:19 I just know you're here 50,000 of you 20:21 and I have one thing in common you and I 20:23 we belong to the Yankees family. 20:26 All right, so that's public space. 20:27 I need to belong in public space. 20:29 Now there is also social space. 20:31 Social space is 4 feet to 12 feet all right. 20:35 So it's a next space in 4 feet to 12 feet. 20:38 So that when Tim and I end up in a party 20:41 and there we're just kind of mixing around, 20:43 you know, we'll get up to about four feet here. 20:45 This about it, this is our social space. 20:46 Hey, how are you doing? Hey, I'm doing real great. 20:49 I see. What's happening? 20:50 Okay, so we move around like that. 20:53 Now I have Karen and I belong to Indianhead Association, 20:57 our neighborhood had some late front, 21:00 riverfront property that the association owns 21:02 and so once a year we had a picnic 21:04 in the summer down by the river. 21:06 That's our social space, so we get together, 21:08 hey, how's it been, haven't seen you a long time. 21:09 Hey, I'm fine. And so we connect. 21:11 Nothing more than four feet, nothing close than four feet, 21:14 4 to 12 feet that's our social space. 21:16 Edward T. Hall says there 21:18 actually four spaces in your life 21:19 and you have to belong in all four. 21:21 The next one is personal space 21:24 that's from 4 feet to 18 inches. 21:29 Now there are fewer people that are in your personal space. 21:33 Tim and I happen to belong at the same pastoral staff 21:35 and I considered the pastoral staff 21:37 my personal space, we are small group. 21:39 And so when we have lot, when we have saddening 21:42 you know, we just sitting all around the table 21:44 we're on our elbows, we're on each others faces 21:46 and it doesn't bother us. 21:47 You know, that sometimes 21:49 when somebody is not a part of your personal space 21:52 and that somebody comes up and starts talking to you, 21:54 do you know-- You know what happens right? 21:59 That's what happened. You just, you just instigate. 22:01 Man, you brush your teeth or what? 22:03 I don't like getting this close to you, 22:06 because you're in my space. 22:08 There is one more, there is one more space 22:11 and it's called intimate space. 22:13 Intimate space-- 22:17 intimate space is 18 inches to 0, 22:22 18 inches to 0. 22:23 I have one person in my life 22:25 who is at the 0 stage. 22:30 Me to. Yeah. 22:33 Those our wives, we're talking about our wives. 22:36 Sandria and Karen. Why? 22:39 Because I can't handle 22:41 being intimate with a lot of people. 22:43 In fact I have a few others, a few other close friends 22:46 I can count them on the fingers of one hand, 22:48 who get that close to me. 22:50 The Bible calls it being naked. 22:52 The Bible calls it being naked. 22:53 Isn't that right, Tim? Adam and Eve were naked. 22:55 They had no idea that they were intimate with God 22:57 and this is something to be embarrassed about God, says No 22:59 we're supposed to be intimate you and me 23:00 and so they are naked and feeling entirely at home 23:03 until sin comes along and says it destroys that intimacy 23:07 and suddenly now oh, that was way to close. 23:12 You see, everybody Pastor Tim, thank you very much. 23:16 Everybody has these four spaces. 23:18 We're in good hand to our chaplains here. 23:20 Four spaces. 23:22 Now Joseph Myers in commenting on those four spaces 23:25 Edward T. Hall four spaces. 23:26 Let me put this on the screen for you. 23:28 We'll get the study guides next week. 23:29 No study guides now we're still preschool 23:31 so let's put-- this is Joseph Myers 23:35 "All belonging in all four space" 23:37 all right, all four spaces. 23:39 "All belonging is significant. 23:41 Healthy community, the goal humankind 23:44 has sought since the beginning." 23:45 Everybody wants to belong. 23:47 "Is achieved when we hold 23:49 harmonious connections in all four spaces. 23:53 Harmony means more public belongings than social." 23:58 You understand that? 23:59 I got more over here a few less here social. 24:02 "More social than personal. 24:04 And a very few intimate." That's what harmony is. 24:07 You don't have to have hundreds of intimates please. 24:10 "A healthy strategy for those working to build community 24:13 entails allowing people to grow significant relationships 24:18 in all four spaces, all four." 24:20 Those italics are his, all four. 24:23 You know, some people think that when you come to church 24:24 you got to get intimate. 24:25 You're crazy, you don't have to get intimate 24:27 to belong to a church. 24:28 No way hosay. 24:30 That's a very, very narrow slice of your relationships 24:36 fit into the intimate stage. 24:39 But we have to belong, I have to belong in all four. 24:41 What's that have to do with the university like this? 24:43 Oh, that's a lot to do with the university like this. 24:45 What is it have to do with the church like this, 24:46 big like this? 24:47 Everything Randy Frazee 24:49 in his book "Dealing with 24:52 Human Relationships within the Church." 24:53 Let's put Randy Frazee up. 24:54 "The development of meaningful relationships 24:56 where every member carries a significant sense of belonging 24:59 is central to what it means to be the church." 25:02 We all have to feel like we belong here. 25:06 Now I may give my belonging need 25:07 just by showing up in the stadium every week 25:09 50,000 people singing praise to Jesus, 25:11 3,000 people singing praise to Jesus. 25:13 I feel like I belong 25:15 and I could tell you people by name 25:17 that's the only connection they have with our congregation. 25:20 They show up in worship 25:21 either first church or second church that's it, 25:23 but they feel like they belong. 25:26 Everybody has got to belong some where. 25:29 And by the way, 25:30 did you know that Jesus was a master 25:32 at understanding these spaces. 25:35 Remember the story about the Centurion 25:37 who came to Jesus and he said, 25:39 remember that he said, my servant is at death door, 25:42 I need You to heal him please. 25:44 This is a pagan Centurion. 25:46 And what does Jesus said, 25:47 Jesus says great idea let's go to your house 25:50 and I'll heal your servant. 25:51 And the Roman Centurion said wait a minute, 25:54 I'm here in public space. 25:56 I don't want You in personal space, 25:59 I don't even need to be in social space with You. 26:01 I'm content to it. He said, hey, hey, hey. 26:04 Listen, I'm a man in the authority, 26:05 I said a word it happens, you're man in authority, 26:08 I believe you can do it 26:09 in this public space heal my servant. 26:11 And Jesus turns He said, hey guys, okay, 26:14 have you ever seen this kind of faith in Israel? 26:16 Your servant is healed. 26:18 Jesus could have said, hey no way, in order to have 26:21 really meaningful relationships in church 26:23 I got to go home with you 26:24 and we got to get up front and personal. 26:25 No. 26:27 He respected a man 26:29 who says I relate to you in public space along. 26:31 So its okay, by the way, 26:33 which means that what happens here on Sabbath mornings, 26:36 is not just another little event on this campus. 26:39 This is a huge event 26:40 where people, come 3,000 come together 26:43 and at some point sense a connection. 26:46 Does everybody feel connected here? 26:48 I just read to you a letter from somebody 26:50 who is sat here for seven years 26:52 and said, no I don't feel like I belong in this public space, 26:55 I'm gonna find some more space. 26:58 See we all are different. 26:59 We have different needs, but that what is clear 27:02 as that we have been wired by God 27:04 to need this belonging, this sense of community. 27:12 In fact, that's what I find 27:14 so phenomenal about this description 27:16 of the early church in the Book of Acts. 27:17 Let's go to the Bible now, 27:18 pull the Bible out in front of you. 27:19 There should be a pew Bible, 27:20 if you didn't bring your own Bible 27:22 there is a pew Bible in the same translation. 27:24 I'll be reading from the New King James. 27:27 If you have your Bible turn to Acts Chapter 2 please, 27:29 open you Bible to Acts Chapter 2, 27:31 page 734 in your pew Bible. 27:36 Page 734 and I want to show 27:40 the four spaces of Edward T. Hall right here 27:44 long before there were social signs. 27:47 Take a look at this, it's amazing. 27:48 Acts 2:41 all right, page 734, Acts 2:41. 27:56 I'll start reading it then-- 27:57 oh, by the way, this is the day of Pentecost. 27:59 Peter has just preached his heart out. 28:01 Thousands of people have listened to him. 28:03 Now notice the response verse 41 28:05 "Then those who gladly received 28:07 his," Peter's "word were baptized, 28:10 and that day about three thousand souls 28:14 were added to them." 28:15 Boy, that's fledgling little movement of Christianity 28:19 to go by 3,000 in one day, amazing. 28:23 So how do they behave with 3,000 verse 42. 28:26 "And they continued steadfastly in the apostles doctrine 28:30 and fellowship, in the breaking of bread, and in prayers." 28:34 Hold on, think of this with me for a moment. 28:37 There they are the four spaces, 28:41 they continued to in the apostles doctrine 28:43 that's public teaching. 28:44 It's like we're doing right here, 28:45 we're having public teaching, public worship, 28:47 so they have their public space. 28:48 They continued in the apostles doctrine 28:50 steadfastly and fellowship. 28:52 Greek word for fellowship is Koinonia, 28:53 it's another word for community. 28:55 So they had to social, it's a social space. 28:58 So they have the public space, they have the social space 29:00 and then they broke bread together. 29:03 And then verse 47 it says from house to house. 29:05 So now we're down to personal space. 29:10 And in prayers, they share the intimacy 29:13 well, that space with God. 29:14 Isn't that amazing? 29:16 You got the four spaces right there. 29:17 What happens verse 43 29:18 "Then fear came upon every soul of that city, 29:22 many wonders and signs were done through the apostles." 29:24 Now verse 44 "All who believed." 29:27 Talking about a front porch community here it goes. 29:29 "All who believed were together, and had all things in common, 29:32 and they sold their possessions and goods, 29:34 and divided them among all, as anyone had need." 29:37 So here's the punch line. 29:38 "Continuing daily with one accord 29:41 in the temple" public space 29:43 "and breaking bread from house to house," 29:45 from front porch to front porch social space 29:49 "they ate their food with gladness 29:51 and simplicity of heart, 29:53 praising God and having favor with all the people." 29:55 And guess what when you get community right God says 29:58 I can hardly wait to keep growing that community 30:00 and He keeps adding. 30:01 Why, because it's a compelling draw as I'm about to show you 30:05 with some fascinating research done with the Moonies. 30:09 Have you heard of the Moonies? 30:11 Before I tell you about the Moonies 30:12 let's just make sure we have it clear here 30:14 what's happening in Acts Chapter 2. 30:17 Overnight literally in one day 30:19 the church explodes to over 3,000. 30:22 Guess what that's a Pioneer Memorial Church. 30:24 Our membership is 3,400. 30:26 So suddenly you have a church 30:28 the size of Pioneer in Jerusalem that very day. 30:32 Isn't that amazing 30:33 that the leaders of the church when they realize 30:35 what is happened instantly concluded 30:38 under the social science direction of the Holy Spirit. 30:42 We can't leave this thing big, 30:44 we have got to begin to create front porches. 30:47 Isn't it amazing 30:49 that their response to a huge setting is to immediately create 30:54 small little front porches of community. 30:57 You know what, may be that's a clue for you and me. 31:01 May be this church is got to have this big celebration 31:03 where we have our finest musicians 31:05 and we praise and we worship, 31:07 but may be it's not enough to be content having that. 31:12 May be we need around Andrews University 31:15 small little front porch communities 31:18 where we work and where we worship. 31:22 Three thousand people come together 31:24 it's called the celebration, 31:25 when ten people come together its called community 31:27 and has a big difference. 31:29 Now about the Moonies. 31:31 Last week worshiping with us 31:33 last Sabbath was a friend of mine 31:35 he was a former student. 31:37 He had his PhD in Missiology. 31:39 He is planting a church in what is arguably 31:42 the most godless and secular nation perhaps on earth. 31:46 Certainly in Western Europe in the Czech Republic. 31:49 He was sitting here last Sabbath 31:51 with the rocking chairs and he was listening 31:53 and he met me at that back door afterward he says, Dwight, 31:55 I got to share something with you. 31:57 I said, come on in this week. 31:58 He came in and he is the one that shared with me 32:00 this research regarding the Moonies. 32:03 Now look at when I was with my PowerPoint man 32:06 who is up in there, he is a junior 32:07 bioengineer here Anthony Wills. 32:10 I say hey, do you know what the Moonies are? 32:11 And he says, nope. 32:12 So I suddenly realized wait a minute, 32:13 Moonies that's going back. 32:15 Moonies goes back to the 60s, the 70s, and the 80s. 32:19 Some of you're just getting born at that time. 32:21 But Reverend Sun Myung Moon, a Korean visionary 32:25 who claimed to be Christ manifested to this generation 32:28 he started what they came to call the unification church 32:31 and American kids 32:33 by the thousands were signing up. 32:36 Amazing, a sociological phenomena. 32:39 So Rodney Stark who is the social scientist 32:43 and he collaborated with another socialist 32:45 John Lofland in the early 60s. 32:48 They did the research and then Rodney Stark 32:50 has written the book the Rise of Christianity 32:52 and so this is just blow your socks out. 32:55 Listen to this, think of the implications 32:57 for life here at Andrews University. 32:58 Listen up, so he said in the early 60s "John Lofland 33:01 and I were the first social scientist to actually go out 33:05 and watch people convert to a new religious movement." 33:08 Now hold on. 33:09 "Although all the converts were quick to describe 33:11 how their spiritual lives had been empty 33:12 and desolate prior to their conversion." 33:15 It turns out we found the only ones 33:17 who join and became Moonies. 33:19 "The only ones who join were those 33:22 whose interpersonal attachments 33:24 to members of this new community 33:27 over balance their attachment to nonmember 33:30 i.e., their parents, their peers back at home." 33:34 This is in San Francisco. 33:36 Kids just start to showing up on buses, the Moonie movement. 33:40 And so these two social scientists 33:41 begin to interview them. 33:43 What's going on? What's going on? 33:44 Do you know what they found out? 33:45 In fact, let me put out, let me put three sentences 33:47 from this research on the screen for you. 33:49 "Attachments." 33:50 Here's what they concluded after hundreds 33:52 and hundreds of these interviews. 33:54 "Attachments lie at the heart of conversion." 33:56 This is a key point. 33:57 "And therefore that conversion tends 34:00 to proceed along social networks formed 34:03 by interpersonal attachments." 34:06 Did you get their findings? 34:08 They're finding that's for the Moonies 34:10 which by the way they define as a deviant religion, 34:15 which by the way is exactly 34:16 what Christianity was in the beginning. 34:19 It was a deviant religion consider by the public 34:23 that way isn't that right. 34:24 Why were people joining the Christian church 34:26 by the thousands? 34:28 When they did this research 34:29 they found out that these attachments 34:32 the new attachments became so strong 34:34 that they over rowed mom and dad, 34:38 kids back at home, 34:40 people at work, they went ahead 34:43 because of the strength of the new attachments. 34:47 You thinking on this? You see what's happening here? 34:50 And that conversion was not a theological 34:53 change of mind, conversion turns out 34:56 it was dominantly moving along social networks 34:59 and that when you had that 35:00 social network in place, I convert. 35:04 In fact, this is amazing. 35:05 They talk to these Moonies 35:06 who had been Moonies now for years 35:07 and they said, tell us why you join this movement. 35:11 And those who been here long enough, 35:14 you know what they said? 35:15 Oh, well, it was the theology, man, 35:16 this philosophy, this life, this worldview 35:20 I knew that this is for me. 35:23 The very same people who when they interviewed them 35:26 coming into the movement they said, hey, 35:28 I got new friends here, this is where I belong. 35:32 Over the course of a few years 35:34 the mind blocked out the social network party said, 35:37 oh, no, I really came in here, 35:38 'cause I'm thinking really clearly now. 35:41 Now how I made it all. 35:43 You didn't come in because the theology, 35:44 you came in because of a personal 35:47 attachment to somebody on the inside. 35:50 Look at this second statement. Put this on the screen. 35:52 Number two "Conversion to new, deviant religious groups occurs 35:56 when, other things being equal, 35:58 people have or develop stronger attachments 36:01 to members of the group than they have to nonmembers." 36:04 We put one more sentence, one more. 36:06 Let's put that third sentence up. 36:07 "The basis for successful conversionist movements 36:12 is growth through social networks, 36:15 through a structure of direct and intimate 36:18 interpersonal attachments." 36:20 Now watch this, this is the bull's-eye. 36:23 "Most new religious movements fail 36:26 because they quickly become closed, 36:29 or semiclosed newtowks. 36:31 That is, they fail to keep forming 36:33 and sustaining attachments to outsiders 36:36 and they will lose thereby the capacity to grow." 36:38 Isn't that true? Isn't that true? 36:42 That's exactly what happened the church in Acts. 36:46 It was the social network that got another 36:49 and it brought another deviant religion. 36:52 Religio licita in Rome, illegal religion, 36:55 doesn't matter, because I have the connections I'm drawn in 36:59 and my former attachments weaken. 37:02 And I take a stand for what I believe God wants me to do. 37:07 What's the point, ladies and gentlemen, it's inescapable. 37:09 The point is inescapable social networking 37:13 and attachment are critical 37:16 to building a strong community. 37:19 In fact, there is a line 37:22 that I'm gonna run by you right here. 37:25 It's a simple line, but could it be-- 37:26 let me put that one-liner up on the screen. 37:29 Could it be that "the best way to close the back door 37:33 is to build a front porch." 37:36 There is a lot of angst in the church today. 37:38 Our kids are leaving, our kids are leaving 37:40 what do we gonna do? 37:42 You know, this is a terrible predicament. 37:45 No, no, no, no, you want to close the back door. 37:48 The best way to close the back door 37:50 build a front porch, build a place 37:53 where somebody belongs for our midst 37:55 when I don't show up a place 37:56 for I am love for me just being me. 38:03 The best way to close the back door 38:06 is to build a front porch. 38:09 Book of Acts case in point classic case in point. 38:13 So here's the question. 38:15 How can we grow, how can we grow 38:17 those little front porch communities 38:20 here at Andrews University 38:21 and the Pioneer Memorial Church? 38:23 I have a friend in Africa, 38:24 I want to show you a picture of a small group. 38:26 This group may be five people to many 38:27 because generally small group is ten. 38:29 They got 15, but when you have 15 38:30 you have a whole a lot of front. 38:32 And a friend of mine in Africa sent me this picture 38:33 just this last week there is a small group for you. 38:36 They are having fun, 38:38 'cause that's what the small group is for. 38:39 You supposed to feel like you belong, 38:41 you cheering the same team, you are a part see. 38:44 Look at that poor truck. Oh my. 38:48 I'm gonna talk about the small groups. 38:49 In fact, we did a survey here, 38:52 a congregational survey 38:53 Pastor Esther over saw that the survey. 38:56 Here some of the responses. 38:58 Hey look, here are objections people give to me. 39:01 I talk to people about you want to join the small group? 39:02 Oh, let me just run a few of these by. 39:05 I found them in your survey responses. 39:07 Here's one. 39:08 Hey, I'm not into cooking and brining food, 39:11 I hate potlucks. 39:14 I need to tell you something, 39:16 nobody says small groups have to eat 39:18 in order to grow community. 39:20 In fact, if you do a lot of eating 39:21 you're growing something else. 39:24 But here's my philosophy, 'cause I belong to small group. 39:28 Here's my philosophy, I never bring food, 39:30 I just make sure I get into group 39:31 where there is some good cooks. 39:33 That's all you have to do, you don't have to bring food. 39:36 So don't worry about the cooking part 39:37 that's come on you could meet a midnight 39:40 there's no food involve at all. 39:42 Okay, here's another one. 39:43 Nobody ever invites me to join a small group. 39:46 That was in the survey. 39:47 My friend, in two seconds 39:49 you're gonna get an invitation all right. 39:51 Here's another one, number three. 39:52 Oh, I don't like strangers. 39:55 No, don't laugh, we're all that way. 39:58 What it call xenophobia. 40:00 I don't like strangers, 40:01 I want to keep America just America, 40:03 you know, that kind of crazy thinking. 40:05 No, it's true, they call it xenophobia, 40:08 they are afraid of strangers. 40:10 Now we all that way, 40:11 I mean, come on the fact of the matter is 40:13 I love being around people I know, 40:15 but here's my point under capable leadership 40:18 and we got a team a top notch leaders 40:20 I'll talk about them in just a second. 40:21 But under capable leadership 40:23 you're not gonna be strangers for along anyway. 40:25 You're not gonna be a stranger 40:26 and that person is not gonna be a stranger, 40:27 so you're not gonna have to spend your life 40:29 with strangers. 40:30 Okay, here's another one. 40:32 I don't know how to lead a small group. 40:34 I want to promise you something, 40:35 you will never have to lead a small group. 40:37 Join in a small group does not mean 40:39 I now have to lead a small group. 40:41 Not at all. 40:43 That's why we have train 40:45 very warmhearted and caring leaders. 40:47 Once in a while I get to meet with the leaders 40:49 and kind of just share stories and here what's up. 40:51 And I'm telling you they are the good hands people. 40:53 Pastor Esther has put a top notch team of small group 40:57 front porch leaders together. 40:59 You're not gonna have to worry about a thing, 41:02 trust me. 41:03 However, listen, if you want to become a leader, 41:07 a skillful leader we'll train you, 41:14 Over here-- you hear this 41:17 and I saw this in the survey 41:19 I prefer my own kind for community building. 41:23 That certainly logical most of us do. 41:25 We prefer our own kind. 41:26 Whatever you mean by own kind you prefer it. 41:30 That's okay, 41:31 but I tell you what one of the huge bonus is 41:35 of being a part of a diverse group 41:38 is it there is a whole life expending 41:41 richness that comes into you. 41:43 I have belonged to diverse groups 41:45 I do right now. 41:47 You know, if you want to have-- I want to have a group 41:49 of only males 25 years old. 41:52 Well, you can. 41:54 It gets boring after a while. 41:58 Diversity nothing wrong with it. 41:59 One of the responses 42:00 we got a bunch of these responses, 42:02 'cause we did this survey last year. 42:05 I'm a student is there a group for me? 42:09 Oh, there sure is. 42:11 I got to tell you about this, if you're student here, 42:14 I'm glad you freshmen are here. 42:15 If you are young adult here and you would like to check out 42:18 a front porch group no string attached 42:21 we have a front porch group that needs 42:23 every Sabbath morning at 10 o'clock 42:25 over in the student center first floor, ground floor 42:28 in the campus ministry complex 42:31 they gather there they have some snacks together. 42:34 They are building an incredible front porch community. 42:37 Go on over there, 42:38 if you are young adult check it out. 42:40 You say I don't want to be a part of that 42:41 I want to get my own group together. 42:43 You may, in just a moment 42:44 I'm gonna give you piece of paper 42:46 you tell me, you tell me 42:47 what kind of group you'd like to see this church provide. 42:49 Let's see if we can put something together for you. 42:52 Students, come on I know, freshmen, 42:54 look at it's a busy life around you trust me, 42:57 it's just fast pace. 42:59 The years over before it starts it's that bad, 43:02 but if you had a little group that you connected with 43:07 just once a month or twice a month 43:12 somebody once a week. 43:13 If you had a little group that you connected with 43:16 it could just be, it could be the win beneath your wings. 43:18 All right, these are objections. 43:20 I say no, I got to share this one. 43:22 I don't want to sign my life away. 43:25 Don't make me sign a contract. 43:26 Trust me my friend, 43:28 you will not sign your life away. 43:29 Around here Pioneer Memorial small groups 43:31 I can't speak for others, 43:32 our small groups have a sunset clause 43:34 that's means the sun eventually sets 43:36 and the group is over. 43:37 You are never gonna join for life ever, ever, ever. 43:41 We need everyone of us as humans needs 43:43 to be able to get out of it gracefully 43:46 and we'll make sure that you can. 43:48 Final, this is kind of a summary of some responses 43:50 I hear from guys like that. 43:52 But you see, Dwight, 43:55 I'm just not a small groups kind of guy. 44:00 I'm not lonely, I have friends, I'm not a misfit, 44:06 I don't need, I don't need little touchy fuzzy-wuzzy touchy 44:11 healing groups. 44:16 No, I hear that particularly from men. 44:22 I want to tell you something guys, 44:23 we need community even more. 44:26 But let me tell you, you are right 44:27 okay, you're right. 44:28 You got it together, you're cool. 44:31 Initially, initially you are right, 44:34 but listen carefully could it be that the radical power 44:37 of Christian community is 44:39 that what ends up happening is 44:40 you become a part of a group not in order to get, 44:44 you become a part of a group a front porch community 44:47 in order to give. 44:50 That's the secret of Jesus irrepressible joy. 44:53 You think about Jesus oh, mercy Father, 44:56 I have to join that group of misfits down there? 45:00 Why did He have irrepressible joy, 45:02 because He did not come here to get there was nothing to get, 45:04 it was bankrupt down here, he came to give. 45:09 And He says I want my joy to be in you. 45:11 On the eve of His death, I want my joy to be in you. 45:15 So rather than thinking about oh, what can I get, 45:17 what I gonna get, get, get, get. 45:18 No, one-- did it ever occur to you 45:20 that maybe you're on this planet 45:22 because you have something to give 45:24 and there is this small front porch group today 45:26 just leading you to give what God is placed in your life. 45:30 Hey, come on, let's not be too hard 45:32 on each other all right. 45:33 How many of you, raise you hand, 45:34 how many of you picked the family you were born into? 45:36 Just raise your hand. 45:38 Nobody picks his family. 45:40 No girl picks her family. 45:42 You know what, you're stuck that pesky brother, 45:45 that bratty sister you're stuck for life. 45:48 But because of the miracle of love 45:52 you get to saying hey, 45:55 can't stand the guy, but we're family, 45:58 we're family and I really do love them 46:00 in my heart of hearts. 46:02 That's how family is. 46:04 So don't you go around and say well, 46:05 I got to find a group that just perfect like me. 46:07 No. 46:09 All right, 46:11 point is and I don't want you to forget this 46:13 and I'll quickly throw this back 46:15 and then I got to get out of here. 46:18 I want you to know that joining a small group. 46:21 Well, it's true think about giving you're gonna get. 46:24 May I run this by a real quick? 46:25 Four significant blessings you will get 46:28 when you become a part of our front porch spiritual community. 46:31 Let's put up number one. 46:33 "We find strength for life's storms." 46:36 I like to say, this is been a rotten summer, 46:38 too much travel I haven't sail it once 46:40 the boat still under wraps, terrible. 46:42 But when I go out sailing on Lake Michigan 46:44 and it's kind of grain the distance 46:45 I never want to be on Lake Michigan alone. 46:47 When I'm going into a storm 46:49 give me somebody to suffer with me 46:51 just somebody to sit there and go through that 46:54 and pray for me and we go through it. 46:56 Why, because it's no, 46:57 it's terrible to go through a storm alone. 47:00 You don't know what's gonna happen in your life this year 47:02 freshmen friend of mine, you have no clue 47:04 what's gonna happen. 47:07 I have no idea what's gonna happen in my life. 47:09 I just want to make sure that when something, 47:11 when the bottom falls out in my life 47:13 I got a little group around me. 47:15 It's great for when you, let's put it up there please. 47:17 "When you go through life storms we find strength." 47:19 Here's another "We receive wisdom from small groups 47:21 for making important decisions." 47:23 I love the way King Solomon put it in Proverbs. 47:25 He said, as-- have you ever seen a butcher? 47:29 Pull out that butcher knife and that metal file. 47:34 Nobody goes to butchers anymore, 47:35 but it just kind of imagine that happen. 47:38 That's Solomon's point as iron sharpens iron. 47:42 You think it pretty bright. 47:45 Puts you in a group of peers and more experienced in life 47:49 puts you in a group and you suddenly find out 47:51 there is a whole lot of wisdom 47:52 I could go for and I can tap into. 47:55 That's what small communities do they give you that wisdom. 47:57 Give me number three. 47:58 Here's the third significant blessing. 48:00 "We experience accountability, 48:02 which is vital to spiritual growth." 48:04 I know some guys who've gone through 48:05 just some major spiritual, 48:07 I know some girls who've gone through 48:08 spiritual burnout, spiritual meltdown. 48:11 When I go into spiritual meltdown trust me 48:14 I have left the group and I am on my own. 48:18 Some guys say I'm like lone ranger, 48:21 I don't even need tonto. 48:24 But seriously I've read this in one of the books. 48:28 A lone ranger, a lone ranger is alone ranger. 48:35 You're all by yourself. 48:36 Why do you want to go through life by yourself? 48:39 What are you trying to prove? 48:40 you got nothing to prove. 48:42 We need each other, we need each other. 48:45 Okay, there is a four significant blessing 48:47 let's put that up on the screen too. 48:48 "We find acceptance 48:49 that helps us repair our wounds." 48:52 I've lived in this community for a few years now, 48:56 I've lived on this campus for a few years now 48:59 and I've seen people who are secure 49:02 and confident and in control. 49:06 Come face to face with the Christ 49:07 as they just knocks the legs out from under you. 49:12 I've gone through Christ here since I've been here. 49:15 You if you haven't will go through Christ 49:17 see in this journey ahead. 49:19 The joy of a small front porch group is 49:23 that when they come charging in on you 49:26 your friends in that small, that little front porch group 49:29 circles the wagons around you and they say 49:31 we're gonna stand this ground with you, boy, 49:33 don't you worry about it, we got you covered. 49:36 That's what you need, that's what I need. 49:40 And there is only one place you can find. 49:41 You can't get it from coming to church and just worshiping. 49:44 I'm sorry, we don't know what you're going through. 49:46 We can't give you what you need. 49:48 You need a little front porch community 49:50 that says I'm praying for you, boy. 49:53 Girl, I'm with you a 100%. 49:58 Hundred years ago these words are written 50:00 I considered them rather appreciate. 50:02 Look at this 100 years ago 50:05 "The formation of small companies, 50:06 the formation of little front porch communities 50:09 as a basis of Christian effort has been presented to me 50:13 by One who cannot err." 50:18 Because Acts 2 is right. 50:19 That's how a big church like this survives the long haul. 50:26 Student of Andrew's University you need community 50:28 don't you tell me you can do it alone, you can't. 50:31 We'll do everything we can to help you find that community. 50:35 In fact, you know what I wish right now? 50:36 I wish the front of the pew, right ahead of you 50:39 could become you the laptop right now. 50:41 I wish I could put this survey right there 50:43 and you can just fill it out. 50:46 I don't want you to go home and try to fill it in. 50:49 It will enter the data for you. 50:51 Let's do this, inside your worship bulletin right now 50:54 would you pull out please a little buff card 50:56 we'll put it on the screen for you, 50:57 so you can see what it looks like, 50:59 has a rocking chair on it, 51:00 it's called the Front Porch Groups. 51:02 See that card? 51:04 It's says it's not even a card just look piece of paper. 51:06 Open your bulletin right now. 51:07 Ushers, let's go. Ushers, thank you. 51:09 Hold your hand if you didn't get one of these 51:11 I need to hear from you, so just-- 51:12 we got golf pencils for you, 51:14 so don't worry this will take 30 seconds. 51:16 Just hold your hand up. 51:18 Thank you, Philip, nice to have you back. 51:21 Hold your hand up and we'll get one of these surveys 51:24 to you and a golf pencil. 51:26 Yeah, just hold your hand 51:27 all the way to the back of the balcony. 51:29 Those of you watching on television 51:31 you can keep watching with us, 51:32 but this is a little in-house moment 51:34 where we gonna do take a survey. 51:37 All right, I'm gonna read a story to you, 51:39 a dynamite story so don't you turn that television off yet. 51:42 But I want to give you just a moment please 51:43 to fill this little Front Porch Groups 51:46 information interest survey. 51:49 Did you get one, you got one? 51:52 You got one? 51:53 All right, just hold your hand up 51:55 if you didn't get it. 51:56 I'm gonna plunge right into while you're doing that. 51:57 Look at, guys, this is a simple little form. 51:59 Name, address, email that's it, 52:05 name, address, email. 52:07 Let us know how we could be in touch with you. 52:09 Listen to me right here please 52:11 nobody, nobody is getting put into a group 52:17 against his or her wishes. 52:20 You by filling this out this will help us very much 52:22 as we think about moving into small groups as a community. 52:26 You're not locking yourself into anything here 52:28 nothing, so just relax on that one. 52:31 Not gonna get a little post card in the mail says show up. 52:36 You don't have to. 52:38 But look at your name, address, email, cell phone, 52:41 you got a cell, everybody is got a cell. 52:42 Okay, now just look at three more circles 52:45 your age category circle it, circle it. 52:47 Watch your age category circle it. 52:49 If you're offended by your age category circle it anyway. 52:53 Are you student or community? 52:55 Circle one or the other student or community. 52:58 That was quick enough. 52:59 And here is a last one time available. 53:01 You know what, if I like this group, 53:04 if I were willing to try this group 53:07 I could meet Monday evenings at. 53:09 Okay, that's all you need to do. 53:10 Circle, as many circles you do want point you could make. 53:13 Now you are freshman, you can say 53:14 I have no idea what my life is gonna be like here. 53:17 Well, you just put that as available. 53:21 But just circle it, if you have an idea 53:22 oh, I working on campus, you know what, 53:25 I'd be free late afternoon, Tuesdays whatever 53:28 doesn't matter to me just put a circle there. 53:29 Finally you got a what kind of group you are looking for? 53:33 Help us, help you just tell us. 53:36 Write any comment down you wish. 53:39 And while you are finishing that, 53:40 'cause we're gonna receive this right now. 53:41 I want to read a story, I want to read a story 53:42 there is a beautiful story. 53:44 It's a personal testimony by gentleman name Rob Thomas. 53:46 I founded in Kay Kuzma's delightful book "Fit Forever." 53:50 Okay, so we're ending with this story, this is it. 53:53 So just thank you for going ahead and filling that out 53:55 while I read. 53:56 My mom's suicide. 53:58 Okay, my mom's suicide rocked my life. 54:03 This guy is writing. 54:05 "My first reaction was shock. 54:07 Then denial. Then anger. 54:08 How could she do this to me? 54:09 To my kids? Then guilt. 54:11 Why didn't I do something more? 54:13 As I tried to put the pieces of my life together, 54:16 I questioned God's role in mom's suffering. 54:18 She was manic depressive. 54:21 And her subsequent choice to end her life. 54:23 Blindly," look, look, "I saw only two options. 54:25 Number one, God didn't fulfill His promise 54:27 not to allow any temptation beyond what mom could bare 54:30 or number two, mom just blew it! 54:33 Either way it was a losing situation. 54:36 Either God or mom screwed up, 54:39 and that conclusion almost destroyed 54:41 my relationship with God. 54:44 Over the next year or two 54:45 I really struggled with my spiritual life. 54:47 In retrospect, I think it was a combination 54:49 of my relatively sterile spiritual life 54:51 before Mom's death, her suicide itself, 54:53 and the subsequent question that raise in my mind 54:56 about God's role in our lives. 54:57 Also I attended a large, impersonal church 55:02 where I had no support group to listen, 55:03 encourage or reinforce to me the truth 55:06 is God who loves and Satan who destroys. 55:10 I'm embarrassed to say that I almost gave up on God. 55:13 I kept going to church but mainly for the kids sake. 55:16 Even though I was struggling, I still believe in the God 55:18 to whom I wanted my kids to relate. 55:20 I didn't want them to grow up not going to church 55:22 because of me. 55:23 Before making a final choice to bail out on God, 55:26 I committed to do some more reading and investigating. 55:29 I read a book by Philip Yancey 'Where is God When it Hurts.' 55:33 " Oh, that's a great book, that's a great book. 55:36 Do you ever want to read 55:38 something it will move your heart. 55:40 "So I read this book by Philip Yancey 55:42 that really helped me to 55:44 'wake up and smell the roses!' 55:45 My family also began attending a smaller church 55:47 where I became involved and made friends 55:49 who love me regardless and I began therapy." 55:52 Guess what, it's okay to get therapy. 55:56 When I have a cold I go to that kind of doctor, 55:58 when my heart is sick 56:00 I go to that other kind of doctor. 56:01 It's okay. It's okay. 56:05 "I began therapy. 56:07 Over the past--" listen to this now here's a punch line. 56:08 "Over the past five years 56:10 I've really come alive spiritually! 56:12 I've benefited from four small groups. 56:15 One secular recover group 56:16 and three spiritually based groups. 56:18 I've had a much more meaningful devotional and prayer life 56:21 and I've been much more active in my church. 56:23 It's been wonderful like my own spiritual resurrection 56:27 I wonder why it took me so long 56:30 30 years to get connected." 56:36 Are you connected? 56:38 Are you connected to a front porch community 56:41 that can journey for you in the midst of living? 56:45 Don't wait long, don't wait 30 years. 56:49 Connect. 56:51 There is a front porch just waiting for you. 56:55 A front porch that desperately needs 56:58 what you will bring. 57:01 Let me take one more moment of your time to let you know 57:04 that one of the blessings I receive from this telecast 57:06 is being in touch with viewers like you all across Michiana 57:09 and our nation and literally the world. 57:12 I am humbled and honored 57:13 with your sharing the journey with us. 57:14 Sometimes it's a Bible question 57:16 other times its an observation or suggestion 57:18 and sometimes just a note to share a prayer 57:20 or a prayer request. 57:22 I'd loved to hear from you and it's so easy to be in touch. 57:24 Just go to our Pioneer Memorial Church website 57:27 www.pmchurch.tv 57:30 and click on contact and then the word pastor. 57:33 And then jot down the message you wish to send. 57:36 If you have a prayer request click on those words 57:38 or call our toll free number 1-877-HIS-WILL 57:43 And I promise you 57:44 that our prayer partners will lift your need to God 57:47 because no body should have to journey alone. 57:49 Not only do we have Jesus but we also have each other. 57:52 So write me won't you at www.pmchurch.tv 57:56 In the mean time may the God whose mercy 57:59 continually runs after us 58:00 be with you 24/7 every step of the way. 58:05 I will see you again right here next time. |
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