Stand with us as we
sing "To God be the glory."
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To God be the glory
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Great things He hath done
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So loved He the world
that He gave us His Son
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Who yielded His
life an atonement for sin
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And opened the life
gate that all may go in
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Praise the Lord
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Praise the Lord
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Let the earth hear His voice
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Praise the Lord
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Praise the Lord
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Let the people rejoice
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O come to the Father
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Through Jesus the Son
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And give Him the glory
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Great things He hath done
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Great things He hath taught us
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great things He hath done
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And great our
rejoicing thru Jesus the Son
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But purer and higher
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And greater will be
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Our wonder, our transport,
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when Jesus we see
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Praise the Lord
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Praise the Lord
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Let the earth hear His voice
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Praise the Lord
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Praise the Lord
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Let the people rejoice
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O come to the Father
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Through Jesus the Son
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And give Him the glory
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Great things He hath done.
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Amen, you may be seated.
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The Psalm says
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I will sing the Lord's
unfailing love forever.
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Young and old will hear
here of Your faithfulness.
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Your unfailing
love will last forever.
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Your faithfulness is as
enduring as the heavens.
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As we sing this
morning may you be transported
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into the presence of our
Holy King and Savior, Jesus.
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Open the eyes of my heart, Lord
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Open the eyes of my heart
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I want to see You
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I want to see You
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Open the eyes
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Open the eyes of my heart, Lord
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Open the eyes of my heart
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I want to see You
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I want to see You
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To see You high and lifted up
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To see You high and lifted up
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Shining in the
light of Your glory
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Pour out Your power and love
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As we sing holy, holy, holy
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High and lifted up
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Shining in the
light of Your glory
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Pour out Your power and love
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As we sing holy, holy, holy
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Holy, holy, holy
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Holy, holy, holy
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Holy, holy, holy
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I want to see you.
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Holy, holy, holy
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Holy, holy, holy
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Holy, holy, holy
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I want to see you.
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Sing with us
"Light of the World."
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Light of the world, You
stepped down into darkness
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Opened my eyes, let me see
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Beauty that made
this heart adore You
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Hope of my life spent with You.
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Here I am to worship
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Here I am to bow down
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Here I am to say that
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You're my God.
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You're altogether lovely
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Altogether worthy
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Altogether wonderful to me
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King of all days
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King of all days
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Oh, so highly exalted
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Glorious in heaven above
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Humbly, You came to
the earth You created
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All for love's sake became poor
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Here I am to worship
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Here I am to bow down
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Here I am to say that
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You're my God
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You're altogether lovely
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Altogether worthy
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Altogether wonderful to me
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And I'll never
know how much it cost
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To see my sin upon that cross
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I'll never know how much it cost
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To see my sin upon that cross
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I'll never know how much it cost
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To see my sin upon that cross
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I'll never know how much it cost
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To see my sin upon that cross
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Here I am to worship
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Here I am to bow down
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Here I am to say that
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You're my God
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You're altogether lovely
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Altogether worthy
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Altogether wonderful to me
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Here I am to worship.
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Here I am to worship
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Here I am to bow down
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Here I am to say that
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You're my God
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You're altogether lovely
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Altogether worthy
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Altogether wonderful to me
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Let sing, "I'll Never Know."
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I'll never know
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How much it cost
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To see my sin upon that cross
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I'll never know
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How much it cost
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To see my sin upon that cross
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To Father in heaven, Lord,
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and we have sensed
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Your presence here
already in a mighty way.
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And Lord, we can never know,
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how much it cost You to
sacrifice Your life for us,
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but we accept it
willingly, we'll take it
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and we praise you for
that sacrifice that you made.
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Lord give us eyes
and hearts to receive
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that abundance of
grace that You have for us.
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Amen.
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Be Thou my Vision
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O Lord of my heart
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Naught be all else to me
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Save that Thou art
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Thou my best thought
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By day or by night
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Waking or sleeping
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Thy presence my light
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Be Thou my Wisdom.
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Be Thou my Wisdom
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Be Thou my true Word
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I ever with Thee
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Thou with me, Lord
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Thou my great Father
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I Thy true son
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Thou in me dwelling
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And I with Thee one
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Riches, I heed not
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Nor man's empty praise
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Thou my inheritance
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Now and always
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Thou and Thou only
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First in my heart
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High King of Heaven
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My Treasure Thou art
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High King of Heaven
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When victory is won
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May I reach Heaven's joys
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O bright Heaven's Sun
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Heart of my own heart
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Whatever befall
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Still be my vision
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O ruler of all
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Still be my vision
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O ruler of all
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We tried this song
last week and well,
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we would like to try it again
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so we can kind of
get into our memory.
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It talks about how God is a God
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who deserves our
quietness, our stillness
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and sometimes we
just need to be still
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and know that He is God.
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Sing with us, "Hide me now."
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Hide me now
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Under your wings
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Cover me
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Within your mighty hand
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Struggle in it
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Hide me now
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Under your wings
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Cover me
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Within your mighty hand
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When the oceans
rise and thunders roar
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I will soar with
you above the storm
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Father, You are
King over the flood
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I will be still
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Know You are God
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Find rest my
soul in Christ alone.
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Find rest my soul
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In Christ alone
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Know His power
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In quietness and trust
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When the oceans
rise and thunders roar
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I will soar with
you above the storm
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Father, You are
King over the flood
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I will be still
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Know You are God
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When the oceans
rise and thunders roar
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I will soar with
you above the storm
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Father, You are
King over the flood
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I will be still
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Know You are God
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I will be still
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Know You are God
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Gloria, Gloria
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Gloria, Gloria
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In excelsis Deo
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In excelsis Deo
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Gloria, Gloria
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Gloria, Gloria
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In Excelsis Deo
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Gloria, Gloria
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In excelsis
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Deo
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Gloria in excelsis Deo
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Gloria in excelsis
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Deo
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Gloria in excelsis
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Deo
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In Excelsis
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Deo
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Gloria in excelsis Deo
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Holy Father, we want
to sing that in our souls
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even as the choir
has sung it for us.
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Glory to You in highest.
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I cannot imagine
what it would be like
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when this Holy Scripture says,
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from one Sabbath to the next,
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and the earth made new
we shall gather at Your feet
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and with the thousands
times than ten thousands
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and thousands of thousands
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we lift up our
voices together, what?
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What?
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A moment that will be, we
sing by faith, glory to you.
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We wait by faith on
You now that Holy Scripture
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might not only engage our minds
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but that it might
address our hearts
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that we might know,
how to follow Jesus?
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We pray in his name.
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Amen.
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The case of Dr. Eck...
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I wish we could
put the face of Dr. Eck
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on the screen for you today.
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I know if at least three
sketches and paintings of him
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and they are all
contrary to each other,
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so there are no help at all.
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Fortunately,
however we an eyewitness,
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we have an eyewitness
description of Dr. Eck,
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on that June 27th day, 1519
at the University of Leipzig.
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Actually, not only an eyewitness
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of description of Dr. Eck,
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he also-- this eyewitness
describes the protagonist
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in that 18-day debate,
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a fellow German Martin Luther
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and his sidekick
Andreas Karlstadt.
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So here is-- as I was reading
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this eyewitness description
of these three main players
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in that memorable debate.
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I kept thinking
who am I thinking
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of when this description
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is applied to our
congregation here.
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You may think of somebody
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that would fit
these three descriptions,
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now the eyewitness
starts off with the Luther,
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Martin he goes,
"Martin is a middle height,"
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500 years ago people
were shorter obviously
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then they are today, so
if this is a kind of average
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then middle would be right here,
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obviously not a very tall man,
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"Martin is a middle height
initiative from Karen Study
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so that you can almost count
his bones through his skin."
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Seen anybody
around you, like that?
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"Almost count his
bones through his skin.
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He is in the vigor manhood
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and has a clear
penetrating voice,
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he is affable and friendly
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and in no sense
dower or arrogant."
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Kind of sounds like a
friendly person to get to know
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so that's Martin,
that's Martin Luther.
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Now here his
sidekick Andreas Karlstadt,
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"Karlstadt is
smaller than Luther
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with a
complexion of smoke haring."
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You know, I am not
sure, is that a complement?
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Smoke hairy, huh?
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Anybody here you see?
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No, smoked haring, mercy.
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"Karlstadt is
smaller than Luther
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with a
complexion of smoke haring,
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his voice is
thick and unpleasant,
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he is slower of
memory and quicker in anger."
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All right that's
two of the three,
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now, Dr. Eck, here we go Eck.
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"Eck is a heavy
square set fellow
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with a full German voice
supported by a hefty chest,"
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you can picture can't you?
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"He would make a
tragedian that would be"--
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that is an actor
in a great tragedies
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that so that's a
guy-- no PA is backed in
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so he bellowing the
lines out from the stage.
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"He would make a
tragedian or a town crier
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but his voice is
rather rough then clear,"
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so it's kind of a gravelling
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you know gravelly kind of voice.
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"His eyes and mouth
and his whole face remind
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one more of a
butcher than a theologian."
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And you are
already picturing somebody.
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But don't let the robust
physique of Dr. Eck fool you.
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One biographer
describe him this way,
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"despite his butchers
face and bull's voice,
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he was a man prodigious memory,
00:24:53.36\00:24:55.50
torrential
fluency, and uncanny acumen,
00:24:55.53\00:24:58.97
a professional
disputant or debater."
00:24:59.00\00:25:02.13
This is a guy that
loves to get that microphone
00:25:02.16\00:25:06.26
and plunge into a debate.
00:25:06.29\00:25:08.16
And now the fame debate between,
00:25:08.19\00:25:09.44
Dr. Eck and Martin Luther,
00:25:09.47\00:25:10.50
the summer of 1519 at
the University of Leipzig.
00:25:10.53\00:25:14.81
Now you remember two
years earlier October, 31, 1517,
00:25:14.84\00:25:18.95
that young German Mark in his
early to mid 30s unwittingly,
00:25:18.98\00:25:25.14
you remember ignited,
00:25:25.17\00:25:27.54
the mighty Protestant
Reformation when he nailed up
00:25:27.57\00:25:30.09
on the University
Cathedrals wooden doors.
00:25:30.12\00:25:32.43
He nailed up his 95 challenges
to Rome sale of indulgences.
00:25:32.46\00:25:37.53
Now indulgences back then
were, if you pay a little money,
00:25:37.56\00:25:40.59
you could shorten
your time in purgatory,
00:25:40.62\00:25:42.34
you could shorten your
mother's time or father's time
00:25:42.37\00:25:44.52
or were some
loved one, all right.
00:25:44.55\00:25:47.24
So when Eck, your honest Eck,
00:25:47.27\00:25:49.93
when he finally gets a
hold of these 95 theses,
00:25:49.96\00:25:52.78
these 95 challenges, he
is a loyal son of the church
00:25:52.81\00:25:56.17
and he is a debater
to the core and he says,
00:25:56.20\00:25:58.78
"bring on, that
fellow German monk"
00:25:58.81\00:26:02.28
and Luther agrees actually,
Eck went for Karlstadt first,
00:26:02.31\00:26:05.16
but he said--
his I was on Luther,
00:26:05.19\00:26:07.17
Luther agreed and
the University of Leipzig
00:26:07.20\00:26:09.92
also agreed that
they would host a debate.
00:26:09.95\00:26:12.60
So everything is set now
00:26:12.63\00:26:15.91
for this brilliant
piece of logic that,
00:26:15.94\00:26:18.64
Eck has reserved for
unsuspecting, Luther.
00:26:18.67\00:26:20.75
Luther has no
idea it is gonna come.
00:26:20.78\00:26:23.30
And Luther the way
faithful Roman Catholic himself
00:26:23.33\00:26:25.60
a Roman Catholic
pastor and professor,
00:26:25.63\00:26:27.24
he has more and more off late
been taking an anti Rome stance
00:26:27.27\00:26:31.86
in his teaching and preaching.
00:26:31.89\00:26:33.12
And now seven
days into the debate,
00:26:33.15\00:26:35.76
can you imagine
going for 18 days?
00:26:35.79\00:26:37.27
One week into that debate,
Luther finally challenges,
00:26:37.30\00:26:42.26
he says, "look-- he challenges
00:26:42.29\00:26:44.17
the pope's
divine right to primacy"
00:26:44.20\00:26:46.82
and he says, "look,
whether you got one pope
00:26:46.85\00:26:48.36
or ten pope or
a thousand pope's,
00:26:48.39\00:26:50.56
it doesn't matter we
still got unity in the church"
00:26:50.59\00:26:53.29
to which, Eck fires back,
00:26:53.32\00:26:56.48
"I am marveled,
that the reverend father
00:26:56.51\00:26:59.38
should forget the
everlasting dissension
00:26:59.41\00:27:01.50
of the English and the French.
00:27:01.53\00:27:02.63
What do you mean we
got unity in the church?
00:27:02.66\00:27:03.92
You got the
French and the English,
00:27:03.95\00:27:05.45
the inviter hatred of
the French for the Spaniards
00:27:05.48\00:27:09.53
"as for me I confess one faith,
00:27:09.56\00:27:14.66
one Lord Jesus Christ,
00:27:14.69\00:27:16.03
and I venerate the Roman
pontiff as Christ Vicar."
00:27:16.06\00:27:21.12
In fact, Eck went on to
hone his argument for the kill.
00:27:23.29\00:27:26.90
He said, "you know what, Martin?
00:27:26.93\00:27:28.47
You obviously are disciple
of the Bohemian, Jan Huss."
00:27:28.50\00:27:33.51
And if you defend his
writings then you are heretical,
00:27:33.54\00:27:36.22
erroneous, blasphemous,
presumptuous, seditious,
00:27:36.25\00:27:38.84
and offensive to
pious ears respectively.
00:27:38.87\00:27:42.64
Tell us how you
really fell, Dr. Eck?
00:27:42.67\00:27:45.95
To which Luther fires back,
00:27:45.98\00:27:47.81
cries out word
now hear the word,
00:27:47.84\00:27:49.05
here we go-- here is
where we're going for this line.
00:27:49.08\00:27:51.35
He's throwing
down the gantlet now.
00:27:51.38\00:27:53.46
Luther cries out
"let me talk in German."
00:27:53.49\00:27:55.84
Apparently
they're debating in Latin.
00:27:55.87\00:27:57.37
He said, let me-- let me--
because there is this gallery.
00:27:57.40\00:28:00.15
Let me speak the
language to the people,
00:28:00.18\00:28:02.06
I'm being
misunderstood by the people.
00:28:02.09\00:28:03.67
I assert, Luther
declared that a church council
00:28:03.70\00:28:06.57
has sometimes heard
and may sometimes are,
00:28:06.60\00:28:09.96
a council cannot make divine
00:28:09.99\00:28:11.21
right out of that which by
nature is not divine right.
00:28:11.24\00:28:13.70
Councils have
contradicted each other
00:28:13.73\00:28:15.42
a simple laymen here, he goes,
00:28:15.45\00:28:17.25
a simple laymen armed
with scriptures to be--
00:28:17.28\00:28:20.13
be believed above a
pope or a council without it,
00:28:20.16\00:28:23.29
and asked for the
pope's decretal on indulgences,
00:28:23.32\00:28:26.24
I say that "neither
the church nor the pope
00:28:26.27\00:28:28.65
can establish articles of faith.
00:28:28.68\00:28:31.05
These must come from scripture"
00:28:31.08\00:28:33.16
and now here is his thrust
"for the sake of scripture
00:28:33.19\00:28:36.81
we should reject
pope and councils."
00:28:36.84\00:28:41.54
And there it was
Luther's ringing challenge
00:28:43.76\00:28:46.59
to the Church of Rome.
00:28:46.62\00:28:47.74
All truth, all truth,
must come sola scriptura,
00:28:47.77\00:28:54.06
Holy Scriptures only,
00:28:54.09\00:28:55.68
for that how do you put it
here for the sake of scripture
00:28:55.71\00:28:57.98
we should reject
pope and councils
00:28:58.01\00:29:00.46
and so it was
ladies and gentlemen
00:29:00.49\00:29:01.66
that sola scriptura
became our battle cry
00:29:01.69\00:29:07.14
of the mighty
Protestant Reformation
00:29:07.17\00:29:09.33
and it becomes the
first line by the way
00:29:09.36\00:29:10.57
that we want to scribble down
in our study guide this morning
00:29:10.60\00:29:13.35
and so would you
take your study out
00:29:13.38\00:29:14.90
in your worship bulletin.
00:29:14.93\00:29:16.55
Pull it out first
line, get it down,
00:29:16.58\00:29:18.54
if you didn't get a study guide,
00:29:18.57\00:29:19.61
ushers, thank you right now.
00:29:19.64\00:29:21.28
Hold your hands up
there's some quotations here
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00:29:23.94\00:29:25.01
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00:29:25.04\00:29:27.15
so make sure you
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00:29:27.18\00:29:29.69
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00:29:29.72\00:29:32.65
and choir we put
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00:29:32.68\00:29:34.92
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00:29:34.95\00:29:36.28
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00:29:36.31\00:29:38.08
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00:29:38.11\00:29:39.63
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I hope this
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00:29:42.53\00:29:44.72
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00:29:44.75\00:29:46.22
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00:29:53.11\00:29:54.88
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00:29:54.91\00:29:57.09
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00:29:57.12\00:29:59.47
You're looking for The Sabbath
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title this teaching
"The Case of Dr. Eck."
00:30:00.69\00:30:04.30
And when it's-- when
it says study guide beside
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"The Case of Dr.
Eck" you click there,
00:30:06.42\00:30:07.84
you have the identical
study guide and by the way,
00:30:07.87\00:30:09.91
those of you who are
getting it off the web
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the answer is in very
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00:30:12.07\00:30:14.66
So don't feel bad, if you
miss something along the way,
00:30:14.69\00:30:16.69
you'll be able to
double check yourself
00:30:16.72\00:30:19.19
at the end of that study guide.
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All right, let's write it down,
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line number one
study guide all the way
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that balcony
you've got them up there?
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Be patient, the
ushers are coming to you,
00:30:25.33\00:30:27.14
but we need to
go line number one,
00:30:27.17\00:30:29.00
the heart of the
Leipzig debate July 1519
00:30:29.03\00:30:33.09
between Johannes
Eck and Martin Luther
00:30:33.12\00:30:35.37
was over sola
scriptura "only Holy Scripture,"
00:30:35.40\00:30:40.68
as the great
Protestant principal in premise,
00:30:40.71\00:30:44.20
only Holy Scripture.
00:30:44.23\00:30:46.18
Now, Eck has a position.
00:30:46.21\00:30:47.81
Jot it down, Eck championed
the authority and primacy
00:30:47.84\00:30:50.84
of the church
through councils and popes,
00:30:50.87\00:30:53.31
these are his words,
we heard a moment ago,
00:30:53.34\00:30:55.04
"I venerate the Roman
pontiff as Christ's vicar."
00:30:55.07\00:30:58.83
All right, that's
exposition and here comes
00:30:58.86\00:31:01.23
Luke's-- Luther's rather.
00:31:01.26\00:31:02.77
Luther defended the authority
and primacy of the scriptures
00:31:02.80\00:31:06.71
through study and prayer
for the sake of scripture.
00:31:06.74\00:31:10.66
Luther, write out we
should reject pope and councils.
00:31:10.69\00:31:13.98
One more line,
"Thus the die was cast
00:31:14.01\00:31:16.12
and the gauntlet thrown down
00:31:16.15\00:31:17.28
sola scriptura
versus church tradition."
00:31:17.31\00:31:20.97
That's the key,
that's this big debate.
00:31:21.00\00:31:24.01
Scriptures only or scriptures
plus church tradition.
00:31:24.04\00:31:28.59
That's-- that's
the-- that's the nub,
00:31:28.62\00:31:31.22
which one carries
a greater authority,
00:31:31.25\00:31:32.80
who won that debate?
00:31:32.83\00:31:33.87
It all depends on
who you rooting for.
00:31:33.90\00:31:36.21
But it was in the on
going written debate,
00:31:36.24\00:31:38.16
now listen to this guys,
00:31:38.19\00:31:39.22
in the ongoing written
debate beyond Leipzig that,
00:31:39.25\00:31:42.35
Dr. Eck score perhaps is most--
00:31:42.38\00:31:44.61
his most telling
logical thrust at Luther.
00:31:44.64\00:31:48.66
As far as I know, we do
not have a response from,
00:31:48.69\00:31:52.47
Luther on this one
and I'm not surprised
00:31:52.50\00:31:54.89
there is no adequate logical
response to Eck's thrust.
00:31:54.92\00:32:00.32
Now, Eck actually
include this in a,
00:32:00.35\00:32:02.60
in a book he
published it's entitled--
00:32:02.63\00:32:06.19
you have it right
there in your study guide.
00:32:06.22\00:32:07.97
Stunning rebuttal
to sola scriptura,
00:32:08.00\00:32:10.97
fill it in, this
is Eck writing now,
00:32:11.00\00:32:13.42
"If however the church,"
00:32:13.45\00:32:15.73
the Roman Church
"has had power to change
00:32:15.76\00:32:19.06
the Sabbath of
the Bible into Sunday
00:32:19.09\00:32:23.09
and to command Sunday keeping
00:32:23.12\00:32:24.92
why should it
not have this power
00:32:24.95\00:32:26.47
concerning other holy days?"
00:32:26.50\00:32:27.98
Because the reformers saying
"hey, wait a minute no more--
00:32:28.01\00:32:29.82
no more holy feast, we
don't have those anymore"
00:32:29.85\00:32:32.15
and, Eck said,
"hey, wait a minute,
00:32:32.18\00:32:33.27
come on guy's, please,
00:32:33.30\00:32:35.45
we change that
Sabbath to Sunday,
00:32:35.48\00:32:37.10
why should we be able to
have the powerful holy days.
00:32:37.13\00:32:39.86
Now notice the logic,
"if you omit the latter,
00:32:39.89\00:32:42.94
you don't want the
liturgical holy days
00:32:42.97\00:32:45.04
and you turn from the
church to the scriptures alone,
00:32:45.07\00:32:48.18
sola scriptura, then you must
keep the Sabbath with the Jews,
00:32:48.21\00:32:53.23
which has been kept from
the be beginning of the world."
00:32:53.26\00:32:57.68
Cha-Chaing, huh?
00:32:57.71\00:33:02.69
Do you get that one?
00:33:02.72\00:33:05.59
Mercy, in other words,
00:33:05.62\00:33:11.60
you Protestants
cannot have your cake,
00:33:11.63\00:33:14.94
I need it too, can't do it.
00:33:14.97\00:33:18.55
You say, you
believe, Dr. Eck challenges,
00:33:18.58\00:33:20.36
you say, you
believe in sola scriptura,
00:33:20.39\00:33:22.28
the Holy Scriptures only
but if you really believe
00:33:22.31\00:33:24.67
that you would be worshipping
00:33:24.70\00:33:26.16
on the Seventh-day Sabbath, why?
00:33:26.19\00:33:27.56
Because everybody knows that
00:33:27.59\00:33:28.81
that is the only day
postulated in Holy Scripture.
00:33:28.84\00:33:33.52
So I repeat, Dr. Eck
just drives that thrust home,
00:33:33.55\00:33:37.57
I repeat if sola scriptura,
jot this down will you?
00:33:37.60\00:33:44.01
"If sola scriptura
is your reformation cry,
00:33:44.04\00:33:47.45
you must return to
the Bible Sabbath or"
00:33:47.48\00:33:50.34
and his logic is searing here,
00:33:50.37\00:33:52.14
"or you must
reject sola scriptura
00:33:52.17\00:33:55.38
and accept Rome's claim
to determine divine truth,
00:33:55.41\00:33:58.45
evidenced by her power to
change the Sabbath to Sunday."
00:33:58.48\00:34:03.49
You got two choices
boys, which will it be?
00:34:03.52\00:34:09.40
Because even in the
time of Luther and Eck,
00:34:09.43\00:34:10.99
everybody knew that Rome claimed
00:34:11.02\00:34:13.61
to have change
the day of worship
00:34:13.64\00:34:14.79
from Sabbath to Sunday.
00:34:14.82\00:34:16.60
I'll tell you what
ladies and gentlemen,
00:34:16.63\00:34:17.66
it was brilliant.
00:34:17.69\00:34:19.01
It was a double bind,
double thrust piece of logic
00:34:19.04\00:34:24.80
for which neither
Luther nor any Protestant today
00:34:24.83\00:34:28.80
has offered an
adequate response.
00:34:28.83\00:34:34.59
In other words, Eck was right.
00:34:34.62\00:34:37.07
You can have your
cake and eat it too.
00:34:37.10\00:34:38.78
You must either accept
the Seventh-day Sabbath
00:34:38.81\00:34:40.34
of the Bible or you
must accept the authority
00:34:40.37\00:34:42.28
of the Church of Rome,
00:34:42.31\00:34:43.34
which claims to
have changed the day
00:34:43.37\00:34:44.40
of worship to
the day of the Sun,
00:34:44.43\00:34:45.83
the venerated day in the Sun.
00:34:45.86\00:34:49.60
There's no other
authoritative stance
00:34:49.63\00:34:52.75
or reason for keeping Sunday,
save the authority of Rome.
00:34:52.78\00:34:57.68
That is Eck's logic,
in "The Case of Dr. Eck."
00:34:57.71\00:35:03.12
And by the way if Eck is right,
00:35:06.00\00:35:08.80
then you might as well
throw the Protestant principal
00:35:08.83\00:35:10.72
of sola
scriptura out the window,
00:35:10.75\00:35:13.21
it will not hold water.
00:35:13.24\00:35:17.38
There is one another
bit of fascinating history
00:35:17.41\00:35:18.95
that I never knew before.
00:35:18.98\00:35:21.07
A few weeks ago, the first
time I ever heard of this one,
00:35:21.10\00:35:24.72
you remember that in response
to the Protestant Reformation,
00:35:24.75\00:35:27.65
the Church of Rome
convened a major church council.
00:35:27.68\00:35:31.41
Well, this isn't a surprise,
00:35:31.44\00:35:32.68
everybody knows about
that the Council of Trent,
00:35:32.71\00:35:35.70
it was convened in March of 1545
00:35:35.73\00:35:38.74
and preceded with interruptions
until 1564 almost 20 years.
00:35:38.77\00:35:43.23
Now here's the part,
it was a surprise to me
00:35:43.26\00:35:45.53
and this may be a
surprise to you as well,
00:35:45.56\00:35:47.78
it turns out that in the
debate of the Council of Trent
00:35:47.81\00:35:50.25
and they're wondering how
shall we meet the challenge
00:35:50.28\00:35:52.75
of the Protestant Reformation?
00:35:52.78\00:35:54.74
It turns out that in that debate
00:35:54.77\00:35:56.62
there was a large group
of influential churchmen
00:35:56.65\00:35:59.45
at the council
who began to advocate
00:35:59.48\00:36:01.90
that the Church of Rome
ought to abandon this idea
00:36:01.93\00:36:04.55
of tradition plus scripture
00:36:04.58\00:36:06.21
and in fact
embraced the Reformation's
00:36:06.24\00:36:09.15
premise sola scriptura.
00:36:09.18\00:36:12.01
They are championing it
within the Church of Rome,
00:36:12.04\00:36:15.81
to the place they
finally the papal legates
00:36:15.84\00:36:18.04
write back to the
Vatican and they say,
00:36:18.07\00:36:19.41
"we are gridlocked,
00:36:19.44\00:36:20.52
and it looks like
they're going to carry the day."
00:36:20.55\00:36:25.90
Sixteen sessions of the
Council of Trent have ended
00:36:25.93\00:36:31.07
and it is clear now that
they are still at loggerheads
00:36:31.10\00:36:34.56
on this question
when on the beginning
00:36:34.59\00:36:36.24
of the 17th session
held on January 18th, 1552,
00:36:36.27\00:36:39.43
the Archbishop of
Reggio Gaspar del Fosso
00:36:39.46\00:36:44.08
stood up and made a speech
that ended up carrying the day
00:36:44.11\00:36:48.04
and here's his speech,
00:36:48.07\00:36:49.12
in fact you have a
portion of his speech
00:36:49.15\00:36:51.01
in your study
guide, I want you to--
00:36:51.04\00:36:52.60
I want you to hang
onto this little speech,
00:36:52.63\00:36:54.79
you hang on to it.
00:36:54.82\00:36:56.58
The Archbishop of Reggio
00:36:56.61\00:36:58.48
stood before the
assembled Council
00:36:58.51\00:37:00.84
and he made this statement,
00:37:00.87\00:37:03.08
such-- you see
there in the study guide?
00:37:03.11\00:37:05.16
"Such is the
condition of the heretics."
00:37:05.19\00:37:07.18
He is talking about
the Protestant Reformance,
00:37:07.21\00:37:09.58
"such is the
condition of the heretics today
00:37:09.61\00:37:11.33
that they appeal
to no other matter
00:37:11.36\00:37:13.41
more than that
they under the pretense
00:37:13.44\00:37:15.27
of the Word of God,
00:37:15.30\00:37:16.70
overthrow the Roman Church"
what he's saying is innocent,
00:37:16.73\00:37:19.23
you know what
they're doing they're saying,
00:37:19.26\00:37:20.40
"it's the Bible
and the Bible alone."
00:37:20.43\00:37:22.61
That's how they throughout
this whole church thing.
00:37:22.64\00:37:24.58
But I want to tell you,
00:37:24.61\00:37:25.74
he goes on now, now look notice.
00:37:25.77\00:37:27.27
"Yet the authority of the Church
00:37:27.30\00:37:29.18
is most gloriously set
forth by the scriptures
00:37:29.21\00:37:32.46
for a while on the
one hand the church
00:37:32.49\00:37:36.24
she recommends
them the scriptures"
00:37:36.27\00:37:38.46
now watch this
"on the other hand
00:37:38.49\00:37:40.93
the legal precepts of
the Lord contained in them
00:37:40.96\00:37:44.17
that would be the law.
00:37:44.20\00:37:45.82
Those precepts have ceased
00:37:45.85\00:37:47.35
by virtue of the same authority.
00:37:47.38\00:37:49.42
We declare that it no longer
00:37:49.45\00:37:51.83
holds the legal
precepts of God."
00:37:51.86\00:37:54.95
Now gentleman, and
he's making his point,
00:37:54.98\00:37:56.51
let me give you a case in point.
00:37:56.54\00:37:58.52
"The Sabbath" jot that in please
00:37:58.55\00:38:00.51
"the Sabbath" now
here's his illustration
00:38:00.54\00:38:03.00
"the Sabbath, the most
glorious day in the law
00:38:03.03\00:38:05.95
has been changed
to the Lord's Day
00:38:05.98\00:38:08.18
by virtue of the
authority of the Church.
00:38:08.21\00:38:10.45
Should this authority cease
00:38:10.48\00:38:11.90
which will
surely please heretics,
00:38:11.93\00:38:13.94
who would then witness for truth
00:38:13.97\00:38:15.88
and confound the
obstinacy of the heretics?
00:38:15.91\00:38:19.44
Now do you get what he's saying?
00:38:19.47\00:38:20.79
Let me run it by
you one more time,
00:38:20.82\00:38:22.14
you have it there, it'll
take awhile its old English,
00:38:22.17\00:38:24.21
you'll-- you'll have to
kind a brood over later.
00:38:24.24\00:38:27.12
Let me run it by
you one more time,
00:38:27.15\00:38:29.14
i.e., -- here is
what del Fosso is saying,
00:38:29.17\00:38:32.14
"i.e., if we as a
church choose sola scriptura,
00:38:32.17\00:38:37.46
we will lose our
authority as the ruling church.
00:38:37.49\00:38:42.31
Therefore, we must
reject sola scriptura
00:38:42.34\00:38:44.94
in favor of tradition
that grants us our authority,
00:38:44.97\00:38:48.04
authority proven
by the way by the fact
00:38:48.07\00:38:49.99
that we change the
Sabbath to Sunday."
00:38:50.02\00:38:52.52
We can't go down
that road gentleman,
00:38:52.55\00:38:55.67
and the speech carried the day.
00:38:55.70\00:38:57.67
And he did it
brilliantly just as,
00:39:01.62\00:39:03.52
Dr. Eck had done
earlier by appealing
00:39:03.55\00:39:06.03
to Rome's change of the
Sabbath to Sunday as the reason
00:39:06.06\00:39:08.76
why the tradition of
the Church Council imposed,
00:39:08.79\00:39:10.99
couldn't be and should be
elevated above Holy Scripture.
00:39:11.02\00:39:14.57
Ladies and gentlemen,
some of you are into law,
00:39:14.60\00:39:16.46
we have some lawyers here
it's called circular reasoning.
00:39:16.49\00:39:19.90
And it goes like this,
00:39:19.93\00:39:21.39
the proof that we have the power
00:39:21.42\00:39:23.22
and authority to
change the scripture
00:39:23.25\00:39:25.53
is that we change the scripture.
00:39:25.56\00:39:28.00
You can argue that
forever, its circular reasoning.
00:39:31.15\00:39:35.41
But it carried
the day, jot it down,
00:39:35.44\00:39:36.81
"at the council of
Trent sola scriptura
00:39:36.84\00:39:39.18
was finally and officially
00:39:39.21\00:39:40.78
superseded by church tradition."
00:39:40.81\00:39:45.85
Because there's no
other authoritative reason
00:39:45.88\00:39:47.19
for keeping Sunday except
00:39:47.22\00:39:48.29
for the authority
of the Roman Church,
00:39:48.32\00:39:49.57
that you-- you can go anywhere.
00:39:49.60\00:39:51.42
You said, what
about the New Testament.
00:39:51.45\00:39:53.33
Let me tell you
something, jot this down,
00:39:53.36\00:39:54.69
there are eight
references in the New Testament
00:39:54.72\00:39:56.62
to the first day the week.
00:39:56.65\00:39:57.69
Only eight of them,
six of those references,
00:39:57.72\00:39:59.74
jot it down please,
"six of those references
00:39:59.77\00:40:02.02
have to do with a glorious
resurrection of the Lord,
00:40:02.05\00:40:04.34
Jesus Christ on the
first day of the week."
00:40:04.37\00:40:06.07
No contest there,
everybody knew that.
00:40:06.10\00:40:08.82
One of them,
Acts 20:7 has to do,
00:40:08.85\00:40:11.45
and jot this down please,
00:40:11.48\00:40:12.74
it actually is "describing
a Saturday night meeting
00:40:12.77\00:40:15.87
because Saturday night
00:40:15.90\00:40:16.99
is a dark part
in the first day,"
00:40:17.02\00:40:18.52
which would be Sunday.
00:40:18.55\00:40:19.62
"A Saturday night gathering
00:40:19.65\00:40:20.86
of Christians
with Paul in Troas."
00:40:20.89\00:40:22.47
In fact, the New
English Bible comes along
00:40:22.50\00:40:23.93
and translates Acts
20:7, as Saturday night.
00:40:23.96\00:40:27.83
No, no contest
there, that leaves only one,
00:40:27.86\00:40:30.26
the final of the eight,
00:40:30.29\00:40:32.40
it's when Paul
writes in 1 Corinthians 16:1
00:40:32.43\00:40:35.51
he writes to the
Christians in court
00:40:35.54\00:40:36.83
and then he says,
"hey, listen guys,
00:40:36.86\00:40:38.07
I want to take financial stock
every first day of the new week
00:40:38.10\00:40:41.82
in order to set
money aside at home,"
00:40:41.85\00:40:44.43
put it by you at home,
it doesn't go to church,
00:40:44.46\00:40:46.28
it says, "put it by you at home
00:40:46.31\00:40:47.91
for famine relief aid
for Christians in Jerusalem,"
00:40:47.94\00:40:51.07
keep your pen moving,
00:40:51.10\00:40:52.50
"not one of these
eight even remotely suggests
00:40:52.53\00:40:55.41
God changed his mind and
his Seventh-day Sabbath,"
00:40:55.44\00:40:58.38
it's just not there.
00:40:58.41\00:41:00.44
Let it be repeated,
the only remaining reason
00:41:00.47\00:41:03.32
for keeping
Sunday instead of Sabbath
00:41:03.35\00:41:05.96
is to accept the authority
claimed by the Roman Church.
00:41:05.99\00:41:10.62
That was the case of Dr.
Eck, and the rest is history.
00:41:10.65\00:41:18.59
A history that Jesus
surely was not unmindful of,
00:41:18.62\00:41:22.30
when He uttered the
sternest renunciation
00:41:22.33\00:41:25.15
and condemnation of tradition
00:41:25.18\00:41:27.91
anywhere in the
sacred literature.
00:41:27.94\00:41:30.88
Now, we open the Bible, I
want you to take a look at
00:41:30.91\00:41:32.69
the gospel of Saint
Mark, take a look at this,
00:41:32.72\00:41:36.97
it is almost as if
Jesus spoke these words
00:41:37.00\00:41:39.37
after the Council
of Trent decision.
00:41:39.40\00:41:42.70
The gospel of Mark, Mark 7,
if you didn't bring the Bible,
00:41:42.73\00:41:45.41
grab the pew
Bible in front of you,
00:41:45.44\00:41:46.71
it will be page 678,
in that pew Bible Mark 7.
00:41:46.74\00:41:50.98
I'm gonna read the
first three verses here,
00:41:51.01\00:41:53.43
Mark 7, Mark 7:1
"Then the Pharisees
00:41:53.46\00:41:59.70
and some of the
scribes came together"
00:41:59.73\00:42:01.44
these are the
religiously, all right.
00:42:01.47\00:42:03.74
These are the professionals,
"some of those Pharisees
00:42:03.77\00:42:08.79
and some of the
scribes came together
00:42:08.82\00:42:09.89
to Jesus, having
come from Jerusalem."
00:42:09.92\00:42:11.59
He was up in Galilee.
00:42:11.62\00:42:12.75
Now verse 2, "When they saw
00:42:12.78\00:42:14.25
some of His disciples
eat bread with defiled,
00:42:14.28\00:42:16.91
that is, unwashed
hands," "they found fault."
00:42:16.94\00:42:22.42
Verse 3 "For the Pharisees
and all the Jews do not eat
00:42:22.45\00:42:26.58
unless they wash their
hands in a special way,
00:42:26.61\00:42:30.30
holding the
tradition of the elders."
00:42:30.33\00:42:34.90
Now put a
quotation in your study guide
00:42:34.93\00:42:36.49
from the Bible
Commentary, take a look at this,
00:42:36.52\00:42:38.14
so don't take my word for it,
here's a reputable commentary.
00:42:38.17\00:42:42.04
Let me just read
that quotation with you,
00:42:42.07\00:42:43.47
"The washing here referred
to was strictly ritualistic"
00:42:43.50\00:42:46.48
write it down "not sanitary,"
this is not the kind of washing
00:42:46.51\00:42:49.77
when you were a kid and
you came in at supper time
00:42:49.80\00:42:51.66
and your mom says,
"show me your hands.
00:42:51.69\00:42:52.72
Did you wash your
hand?" "I wash my hands."
00:42:52.75\00:42:53.94
"Show me your hands, let me see.
00:42:53.97\00:42:55.02
Because you didn't
wash-- did you use soap?"
00:42:55.05\00:42:57.04
"No."
00:42:57.07\00:42:58.10
"Did you use water?" "No."
00:42:58.13\00:42:59.17
"What did you do?"
"Wipe it on a towel?"
00:42:59.20\00:43:00.24
"Yep." "Go back."
00:43:00.27\00:43:02.45
Come on, you
remember your Mom doing that?
00:43:02.48\00:43:04.10
"Let me see
those hands again boy."
00:43:04.13\00:43:07.33
This is not
sanitary watch-- washing,
00:43:07.36\00:43:09.40
the washing here referred
00:43:09.43\00:43:10.48
to a strictly
ritualistic, not sanitary.
00:43:10.51\00:43:13.74
Now watch this,
"this right is said
00:43:13.77\00:43:16.30
to have consisted of
pouring a small amount of--
00:43:16.33\00:43:19.63
small quantity of
water up on the fingers
00:43:19.66\00:43:22.15
and palm of first one hand
and then the other hand tilted
00:43:22.18\00:43:27.59
so that the
water ran from the Palm
00:43:27.62\00:43:29.64
to the wrist but no further."
00:43:29.67\00:43:31.77
So you get just as
little bit of water
00:43:31.80\00:43:33.30
and you get a
movement in your hand,
00:43:33.33\00:43:34.73
so it's kind of clumsy
00:43:34.76\00:43:36.03
and you roll it
up to your wrists.
00:43:36.06\00:43:37.71
You can't let it
go down your arm,
00:43:37.74\00:43:39.26
you have to stop
it, and you cannot,
00:43:39.29\00:43:41.13
as a quotation goes on to say,
00:43:41.16\00:43:42.24
you cannot let it
go back into the palm
00:43:42.27\00:43:44.23
because that
ruins the whole ritual.
00:43:44.26\00:43:45.69
So you have to get that water
just bounce it up on your wrist
00:43:45.72\00:43:48.10
and then quickly
turn your palms over
00:43:48.13\00:43:49.69
and wipe your hands
00:43:49.72\00:43:50.90
and then you
have ritually washed.
00:43:50.93\00:43:54.88
How much water should we use?
00:43:54.91\00:43:56.11
Well, that's a great question,
00:43:56.14\00:43:57.36
read on here "the
minimum amount of water
00:43:57.39\00:43:59.30
prescribed was that
which would be contained
00:43:59.33\00:44:01.15
in one and a half egg shells."
00:44:01.18\00:44:04.46
That's how much water to use.
00:44:04.49\00:44:06.53
"It seems however
I thought this was"--
00:44:06.56\00:44:08.89
listen to this
"it seems, however,
00:44:08.92\00:44:10.60
that where water
was not available
00:44:10.63\00:44:12.35
a dry ablution was permitted
00:44:12.38\00:44:14.98
in which a person
would simply go through
00:44:15.01\00:44:17.00
the motions of washing his hands
00:44:17.03\00:44:18.95
in the prescribed manner."
00:44:18.98\00:44:20.83
There's no water
here, what are you doing?
00:44:20.86\00:44:22.22
I don't know, I'm just doing it,
00:44:22.25\00:44:23.43
there is no water--
what do you think I washed?
00:44:23.46\00:44:24.78
Yes, I'm. I'm doing this.
00:44:24.81\00:44:26.38
What's going on
ladies and gentlemen?
00:44:26.41\00:44:27.57
You know what's going on?
00:44:27.60\00:44:28.66
This little
ritual has been created
00:44:28.69\00:44:30.54
so that those who
imbibe in it are declared
00:44:30.57\00:44:33.22
all those who are
watching-- washing, I--
00:44:33.25\00:44:36.19
I have found a measure
of holiness in my life.
00:44:36.22\00:44:40.78
No water at all,
no, I'm just pretending,
00:44:40.81\00:44:44.33
but, but I have the motions.
00:44:44.36\00:44:51.78
Is there a place
in Holy Scripture
00:44:51.81\00:44:53.24
where God
prescribes washing like that?
00:44:53.27\00:44:56.30
Absolutely not. What's happened?
00:44:56.33\00:44:58.88
It's the oral
tradition of the elders.
00:44:58.91\00:45:01.17
In massive body oral
rabbinical regulations
00:45:01.20\00:45:03.31
that have grown
up around the Tara,
00:45:03.34\00:45:04.87
in some cases the oral tradition
00:45:04.90\00:45:06.52
came to be regarded as
more sacred than the law itself.
00:45:06.55\00:45:11.06
And Christ is with fury,
00:45:11.09\00:45:15.04
attacking the traditions
of that religious community.
00:45:15.07\00:45:22.47
And so the Pharisees come to him
00:45:22.50\00:45:23.78
and look drop to verse 5
00:45:23.81\00:45:24.88
"Then the Pharisees
and scribes asked Him,
00:45:24.91\00:45:26.49
"Why do Your disciples not walk
00:45:26.52\00:45:28.21
according to the
tradition of the elders,
00:45:28.24\00:45:29.95
but eat bread
with unwashed hands?'"
00:45:29.98\00:45:31.55
and here it come Jesus answered
00:45:31.58\00:45:33.40
the sternest words
He has spoken about
00:45:33.43\00:45:34.95
tradition in all scripture
He answered and said to them,
00:45:34.98\00:45:38.05
"Well, did Isaiah
prophesy of you hypocrites,
00:45:38.08\00:45:41.19
as it is written,
This people honors Me
00:45:41.22\00:45:43.67
with their lips, But
their heart is far from Me.
00:45:43.70\00:45:46.32
And in vain they worship Me,
00:45:46.35\00:45:48.93
Teaching as doctrines
the commandments of men."
00:45:48.96\00:45:51.68
Almost as if He
were speaking the words,
00:45:51.71\00:45:53.76
after the
Council of Trent verse 8
00:45:53.79\00:45:55.80
"For laying aside
the commandment of God,
00:45:55.83\00:45:58.19
you hold the tradition of men
00:45:58.22\00:45:59.67
the washing of
pitchers and cups,
00:45:59.70\00:46:00.89
and many other such
things that you do."
00:46:00.92\00:46:03.06
He said, verse 9
"He said to them,
00:46:03.09\00:46:05.24
'All too well you
reject the commandment of God,
00:46:05.27\00:46:09.12
that you may
keep your tradition.'
00:46:09.15\00:46:13.99
" Jot it down,
ladies and gentlemen,
00:46:14.02\00:46:15.35
shades of "The Case of Dr. Eck."
00:46:15.38\00:46:18.40
Write it down "you
reject the command,"
00:46:18.43\00:46:20.49
I inserted the word fourth
00:46:20.52\00:46:22.20
"you reject the
fourth commandment of God
00:46:22.23\00:46:24.25
that you may
keep your tradition."
00:46:24.28\00:46:27.23
Thus Jesus says, keep writing,
"in vain you worship Me,
00:46:27.26\00:46:30.44
teaching as doctrines
the commandments of man."
00:46:30.47\00:46:33.96
You know what, it is almost
as if Jesus were addressing,
00:46:33.99\00:46:37.84
Dr. Eck, the archbishop,
the tradition of Rome
00:46:37.87\00:46:40.97
and Protestants today
you have made the word of God
00:46:41.00\00:46:44.04
of no effect
through your tradition.
00:46:44.07\00:46:47.40
It's a direct
quote from verse 13,
00:46:47.43\00:46:49.95
"you've made it have no effect
00:46:49.98\00:46:51.12
through your tradition
which you have handed down."
00:46:51.15\00:46:56.01
There it is
ladies and gentlemen,
00:46:56.04\00:46:57.11
sola scriptura
or church tradition.
00:46:57.14\00:47:00.02
How do we choose?
How shall we respond?
00:47:00.05\00:47:03.74
Fact to the matter is
for every Roman Catholic
00:47:03.77\00:47:08.13
faithful today for
every faithful Protestant,
00:47:08.16\00:47:10.07
you know, what, for
all of us as Christians,
00:47:10.10\00:47:11.51
for all of us as Christians,
00:47:11.54\00:47:14.18
when it comes to
the day of worship,
00:47:14.21\00:47:17.82
there are only two
possible responses.
00:47:17.85\00:47:24.38
Response number one,
00:47:24.41\00:47:26.27
embrace the Seventh-day Sabbath,
00:47:26.30\00:47:28.28
the Holy Scripture
the gift of the creative
00:47:28.31\00:47:30.15
the human race,
that's response number one.
00:47:30.18\00:47:31.72
Response number two,
00:47:31.75\00:47:34.63
we can accept
Rome's veneration of Sunday
00:47:34.66\00:47:38.50
and acknowledge her
00:47:38.53\00:47:40.32
to be the ultimate
orbiter of divine truth.
00:47:40.35\00:47:44.18
There is no
third choice, there--
00:47:44.21\00:47:45.38
there just is no other option.
00:47:45.41\00:47:50.66
Which is why I should--
should not have been stern
00:47:50.69\00:47:54.03
when I learned this
last May of the resignation
00:47:54.06\00:48:00.56
of Dr. Frank
Beckwith, former President
00:48:00.59\00:48:03.83
of the Evangelical
Theological Society,
00:48:03.86\00:48:06.53
one of the most prestigious
00:48:06.56\00:48:08.38
theological
societies in the world.
00:48:08.41\00:48:12.66
After his resignation,
the Executive Committee
00:48:12.69\00:48:14.89
of the Evangelical
Theological Society
00:48:14.92\00:48:18.60
released this
statement to the press
00:48:18.63\00:48:20.46
and I have a
copy of it right here.
00:48:20.49\00:48:23.20
It was released on May, 8th
of this last year, all right.
00:48:23.23\00:48:26.74
I'm reading now
"on May 5 last year,
00:48:26.77\00:48:30.34
Dr. Frank Beckwith resigned
00:48:30.37\00:48:31.80
as President of the
Evangelical Theological Society,
00:48:31.83\00:48:35.89
this resignation has come
as a result of his decision
00:48:35.92\00:48:38.01
to be received
into full communion
00:48:38.04\00:48:39.85
in the Roman Catholic Church,
which he did on April 29,
00:48:39.88\00:48:44.25
Dr. Beckwith has
informed executive committee
00:48:44.28\00:48:46.25
that this was a decision
he came to after "much prayer,
00:48:46.28\00:48:51.11
council, and consideration,
00:48:51.14\00:48:54.45
the members of the
executive committee wish,
00:48:54.48\00:48:56.05
Dr. Beckwith well in his
ongoing professional work,
00:48:56.08\00:48:59.15
we've come to
appreciate him as a scholar
00:48:59.18\00:49:02.03
and as a
friend, and so we thank,
00:49:02.06\00:49:03.53
Dr. Beckwith for his
service to the society.
00:49:03.56\00:49:07.45
The work of the
Evangelical Theological Society
00:49:07.48\00:49:09.56
as a scholarly form
precedes on the basis
00:49:09.59\00:49:12.21
that the Bible alone--
in the Bible in its entirety
00:49:12.24\00:49:18.22
is the word of God written.
00:49:18.25\00:49:21.01
Where as the
Roman Catholic Church
00:49:21.04\00:49:23.88
posits a larger
canon of scripture,
00:49:23.91\00:49:26.45
then that recognized
by Evangelical Protestants
00:49:26.48\00:49:28.81
including its canon several
writings from the Apocrypha.
00:49:28.84\00:49:31.64
It also extends the
quality of infallibility
00:49:31.67\00:49:33.86
to certain
expressions of Church Dogma
00:49:33.89\00:49:35.85
issued by the magisterium,
00:49:35.88\00:49:37.28
the teaching office of
the Roman Catholic Church
00:49:37.31\00:49:39.48
as well as certain
pronouncements of the pope,
00:49:39.51\00:49:41.92
which are delivered ex cathedra
00:49:41.95\00:49:43.47
such as doctrines about
the Immaculate Conception
00:49:43.50\00:49:46.27
and bodily assumption of Mary."
00:49:46.30\00:49:50.51
Ladies and gentlemen,
"The Case of Dr. Eck,"
00:49:50.54\00:49:53.49
and the decision of Dr. Beckwith
00:49:53.52\00:49:56.40
are entirely
logical and laudable.
00:49:56.43\00:50:02.88
If sola scriptura is
not the defining premise,
00:50:02.91\00:50:08.64
if however you
embrace sola scripture
00:50:08.67\00:50:15.24
then you must
choose to live your life
00:50:15.27\00:50:19.17
in obedience to Jesus
Christ and His Holy Scriptures,
00:50:19.20\00:50:22.14
and the day of
worship will be defined
00:50:22.17\00:50:25.11
by the example
of Christ Himself.
00:50:25.14\00:50:30.40
You say, "hey, listen Dwight
come on please, please, please
00:50:30.43\00:50:33.23
what's a big
deal, what's the matter?
00:50:33.26\00:50:36.18
I think he know,
some, for some its this way,
00:50:36.21\00:50:39.07
for some it's
that way, long as--
00:50:39.10\00:50:40.95
as long as our
hearts are faithful to God."
00:50:40.98\00:50:46.34
I want to share with you
the final piece next Sabbath.
00:50:46.37\00:50:50.28
Next week in the final piece,
00:50:50.31\00:50:51.44
I want to share
with you a dramatic--
00:50:51.47\00:50:54.61
a dramatic segment out
of apocalyptic prophecy.
00:50:54.64\00:51:01.72
The teaching next
week, our last teaching
00:51:01.75\00:51:03.16
I hope you're here for that one,
00:51:03.19\00:51:04.30
the teaching next week
00:51:04.33\00:51:05.94
"A Test Very
Simply and Highly Visible"
00:51:05.97\00:51:12.26
because of
apocalyptic prophecy is true,
00:51:12.29\00:51:15.51
it will come
down to a final exam.
00:51:15.54\00:51:18.14
Very simple, highly visible
00:51:18.17\00:51:21.54
and the answer to the
question, what does it matter?
00:51:21.57\00:51:24.20
Becomes crystal clear.
00:51:24.23\00:51:27.67
I've stood on that
hallow peace of earth,
00:51:27.70\00:51:30.91
where in the grass
is embedded a plaque,
00:51:30.94\00:51:34.50
announcing that
here on April 18, 1521,
00:51:34.53\00:51:37.80
Martin Luther stood
and defended his faith
00:51:37.83\00:51:43.10
before the Imperial
Council of Diet of Worms.
00:51:43.13\00:51:48.14
Scholars are not sure,
how Luther's speech ended,
00:51:48.17\00:51:52.82
nobody wrote it
down, its is amazing
00:51:52.85\00:51:54.55
because it-- his entire
remarks were transcribed
00:51:54.58\00:51:57.68
but some scholars
were suggesting that
00:51:57.71\00:51:59.67
the audience was so
moved by Luther's final words
00:51:59.70\00:52:04.06
that it was just silence
and nobody scribbled it down.
00:52:04.09\00:52:07.37
Some months
later, the final words
00:52:07.40\00:52:09.68
were rendered in
writing and they are these,
00:52:09.71\00:52:13.75
"Here I stand, I cannot
do otherwise, God help me.
00:52:13.78\00:52:20.94
Amen."
00:52:20.97\00:52:23.84
Now it's true, Martin
Luther did not live long enough
00:52:23.87\00:52:27.24
to recover all the Bible truth
00:52:27.27\00:52:28.71
that had become
buried by church tradition.
00:52:28.74\00:52:30.57
During a long
dark and middle ages,
00:52:30.60\00:52:32.28
that's absolutely true.
00:52:32.31\00:52:34.14
Martin Luther in
his one short lifetime
00:52:34.17\00:52:36.55
spent his energies
focusing the church
00:52:36.58\00:52:38.73
and the world on
Jesus as Lord of salvation.
00:52:38.76\00:52:41.87
No time for any
exploration about
00:52:41.90\00:52:45.11
Jesus as Lord of the Sabbath.
00:52:45.14\00:52:47.43
But the fact is
ladies and gentlemen,
00:52:47.46\00:52:48.99
today the bright
light of divine truth
00:52:49.02\00:52:52.54
is surely raising
up another generation
00:52:52.57\00:52:57.56
of young reformers.
00:52:57.59\00:53:00.66
It seems today that
the light is bright enough
00:53:00.69\00:53:06.68
and the time is right enough.
00:53:06.71\00:53:10.00
For generation of men,
women, and young adults
00:53:10.03\00:53:14.16
to stand up in the same way
00:53:14.19\00:53:17.75
and in standing declare that
00:53:17.78\00:53:21.10
they will embrace
the creator salvation
00:53:21.13\00:53:26.22
and the creator Sabbath
00:53:26.25\00:53:30.11
with a courage
born of conviction
00:53:30.14\00:53:34.47
that this is the only stand
00:53:34.50\00:53:38.01
I can logically
and biblically take.
00:53:38.04\00:53:44.85
Here I to stand,
I can do no other,
00:53:44.88\00:53:51.19
so help me God.
00:53:51.22\00:53:52.93
Amen.
00:53:52.96\00:53:55.25
We do you think about that?
00:53:55.28\00:53:57.07
That's a really
gutsy stance, isn't it?
00:53:57.10\00:53:59.55
But you know, what I believe
00:53:59.58\00:54:00.63
God is raising up a
generation of young reformers,
00:54:00.66\00:54:05.00
I want to make an invitation,
if you 30 or younger,
00:54:05.03\00:54:08.74
if you're 30 or younger
right now, and you be willing,
00:54:08.77\00:54:15.65
even if you stood
all alone to take that
00:54:15.68\00:54:17.69
same stand so help me God, I
will stand on sola scriptura,
00:54:17.72\00:54:24.13
I will stand on this
book to the heavens fall.
00:54:24.16\00:54:27.47
If you're 30 or younger
00:54:27.50\00:54:29.07
and you're willing
to take that stand,
00:54:29.10\00:54:30.24
I wish you'd stand right now.
00:54:30.27\00:54:32.27
Thirty or
younger, 30 or younger,
00:54:32.30\00:54:39.83
I'm willing to
stand, so help me God
00:54:44.49\00:54:48.40
if I stand alone--
here I stand, hallelujah.
00:54:48.43\00:54:54.30
How about this, if
you're 30 or older,
00:54:54.33\00:54:59.78
a pretty much would
bring the rest of us here,
00:54:59.81\00:55:01.91
and if you're 30
or older and my heart,
00:55:01.94\00:55:04.06
you know, I've been studying
this I've been going over this
00:55:04.09\00:55:06.42
and I'm saying, "oh,
Jesus, please, I don't know.
00:55:06.45\00:55:10.09
I can't read the future
all I'm telling you Jesus is
00:55:10.12\00:55:13.40
in the present I
want to have that guts,
00:55:13.43\00:55:16.25
I want to have
the courage to stand
00:55:16.28\00:55:19.14
even if I have to stand alone,
00:55:19.17\00:55:21.15
I want to stand
for the Holy Scriptures
00:55:21.18\00:55:25.11
and the Holy Scriptures only."
00:55:25.14\00:55:28.16
If you're 30 or older
and you want to make that
00:55:28.19\00:55:29.58
same stance you stand to
your feet as well please.
00:55:29.61\00:55:33.18
God bless you, and
why not, why not, why not?
00:55:33.21\00:55:40.00
Holy Father, Holy Father,
00:55:40.03\00:55:44.67
we stand it's not a huge deal,
00:55:44.70\00:55:49.54
we do it in comfort,
we do it in security,
00:55:49.57\00:55:53.89
it's not one man
against the council,
00:55:53.92\00:55:55.86
it's not one woman
against the community,
00:55:55.89\00:55:58.50
it's-- we're together
00:55:58.53\00:56:01.42
but still we stand.
00:56:01.45\00:56:03.31
Oh, Jesus,
please, the fires ignited,
00:56:03.34\00:56:09.38
five centuries ago in
the recovery of truth buried
00:56:09.41\00:56:13.79
to the dark ages keep
those fires burning brightly
00:56:13.82\00:56:17.43
and in the men and
women in the young adults
00:56:17.46\00:56:19.50
who have stood today raise up,
00:56:19.53\00:56:24.39
new reformers for
this third millennium.
00:56:24.42\00:56:30.04
Do whatever it
takes in her life,
00:56:30.07\00:56:31.46
do whatever it
takes in his life,
00:56:31.49\00:56:33.58
stand beside him
as he stands for You,
00:56:33.61\00:56:37.04
as she stands up for Jesus.
00:56:37.07\00:56:39.74
Seal this moment,
someday, may we remember
00:56:39.77\00:56:45.87
that we made this decision
on this day for the glory
00:56:45.90\00:56:51.34
and honor of our Savior,
00:56:51.37\00:56:53.88
here we stand so help us God.
00:56:53.91\00:56:58.43
Amen.
00:56:58.46\00:57:00.64
Have a blessed Sabbath.
00:57:00.67\00:57:03.86
I wanted to take
one more moment here
00:57:03.89\00:57:05.36
at the end of the telecast,
00:57:05.39\00:57:06.70
to let you know how grateful
I am for your journey with us,
00:57:06.73\00:57:10.32
with our New
Perceptions Ministry.
00:57:10.35\00:57:12.12
You may think
that New Perceptions
00:57:12.15\00:57:13.24
is only about television
but I need to tell you,
00:57:13.27\00:57:16.02
we do have a
website which is more than
00:57:16.05\00:57:18.27
just the study guide.
00:57:18.30\00:57:19.59
I know we go to the
study guide every week
00:57:19.62\00:57:21.20
but if you go to our
website, let me put the address
00:57:21.23\00:57:22.99
on the screen
again, www.pmchurch.tv.
00:57:23.02\00:57:28.24
You'll find at that website,
a blog I write every Wednesday,
00:57:28.27\00:57:31.00
I sit down on my
laptop and write up a blog
00:57:31.03\00:57:32.89
something as
commenting on world events
00:57:32.92\00:57:35.07
something local,
something national,
00:57:35.10\00:57:36.82
you get the blog.
00:57:36.85\00:57:38.14
You want to
archive previous teachings
00:57:38.17\00:57:40.33
from here in the Pioneer Pulpit,
00:57:40.36\00:57:41.60
you go to that
annotated archive,
00:57:41.63\00:57:44.24
you can pick out a
message, it will be sent to you.
00:57:44.27\00:57:46.80
You want to get
into a podcast business,
00:57:46.83\00:57:50.10
I'm not a real
high-techie on this
00:57:50.13\00:57:52.16
but if you click podcast,
00:57:52.19\00:57:53.67
you'll be able
to connect instantly
00:57:53.70\00:57:55.00
with every new teaching that
comes from the Pioneer Pulpit.
00:57:55.03\00:57:57.48
The point is,
we're trying to connect
00:57:57.51\00:57:59.19
with the generation
on the move, on the go.
00:57:59.22\00:58:02.05
Thanks for being a part of it.
00:58:02.08\00:58:03.17
Thanks for you
prayer partnership.
00:58:03.20\00:58:04.47
We've got to
connect with this generation
00:58:04.50\00:58:07.04
at this time in earth's history,
00:58:07.07\00:58:09.14
and I'm grateful you and
I are sharing the mission.
00:58:09.17\00:58:11.49
God bless you until next time.
00:58:11.52\00:58:13.59