New Perceptions

Of Perfume And Tears And Grumpy Old Men

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Participants: Dwight K. Nelson

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00:06 From the campus of Andrews University,
00:08 this is New Perception, with Dr. Dwight K. Nelson.
00:29 This is my desire
00:35 To honor you
00:42 Lord, with all my heart
00:46 I worship you
00:54 All I have within me
01:00 I give You praise
01:07 All that I adore Is in you
01:20 Lord, I give you my heart
01:24 I give you my soul
01:28 I live for You alone
01:32 Ev'ry breath that I take
01:36 Ev'ry moment I'm awake
01:41 Lord, have Your way in me
01:45 Lord, I give You my heart
01:49 I give You my soul
01:53 I live for You alone
01:57 Ev'ry breath that I take
02:01 Ev'ry moment I'm awake
02:06 Lord, have Your way in me
02:41 I have a Maker
02:47 He formed my heart
02:53 Before even time began
02:59 My life was in His hand
03:06 He knows my name
03:13 He knows my every thought
03:19 He sees each tear that falls
03:24 And hears me when I call
03:32 I have a Father
03:38 He calls me His own
03:44 He'll never leave me
03:50 No matter where I go
03:57 He knows my name
04:04 He knows my every thought
04:10 He sees each tear that falls
04:15 And hears me when I call
04:22 He knows my name
04:29 He knows my every thought
04:35 He sees each tear that falls
04:40 And hears me when I call
04:47 And hears me when I call
04:56 In a couple of the gospels there's a story,
04:59 Jesus on the mountain, He has a crowd all around Him
05:02 and He asked the disciples,
05:04 we should probably feed these people.
05:07 And so they go and they're trying to figure out
05:09 how to do this, you know, they respond.
05:11 Well, how could we feed all these people?
05:13 Just send them home.
05:15 But they find a lad, that's the word that's used.
05:18 They find a lad and he has five loaves and two fish.
05:22 Five loaves and two fish and--
05:24 and I remember the questions asked
05:25 but what is that in the midst of this crowd?
05:29 What is that for these people, just five loaves and two fish?
05:32 Maybe you can eat, Jesus, maybe we could
05:33 have a few scraps.
05:35 But Jesus takes those five loaves and two fish,
05:38 He blesses them and all of a sudden
05:40 it's more, more than enough for everybody there.
05:45 There's baskets that are leftover.
05:49 What's the beautiful thing is that
05:51 however unworthy we may feel, when we give it to Him,
05:55 it all of a sudden becomes more than enough.
05:59 Whatever it is that Jesus has in His creative power,
06:03 He can take the simple, sincerest things
06:07 that perhaps in our measurements,
06:08 in our value aren't quite good enough.
06:10 Don't quite measure up.
06:11 But when He receives them because He is worthy,
06:16 they then become worthy.
06:18 That's what it means to have Jesus' blessing.
06:21 Let's stand as we sing this hymn together,
06:23 "Worthy is the lamb."
07:00 Worthy, worthy is the Lamb
07:05 Worthy, worthy is the Lamb
07:10 Worthy, worthy is the Lamb
07:15 That was slain
07:19 Glory, hallelujah!
07:24 Praise Him, hallelujah!
07:28 Glory, hallelujah
07:33 To the Lamb!
07:39 Savior, let Thy kingdom come
07:43 Now the power of sin consume
07:48 Bring Thy blest millennium
07:53 Holy Lamb
07:58 Glory, hallelujah!
08:02 Praise Him, hallelujah!
08:06 Glory, hallelujah
08:11 To the Lamb!
08:17 Thus may we each moment feel
08:22 Love Him, serve Him Praise Him still
08:27 Till we all on Zion's hill
08:31 See the Lamb
08:36 Glory, hallelujah!
08:40 Praise Him, hallelujah!
08:45 Glory, hallelujah
08:50 To the Lamb!
09:16 We shall walk in peace
09:28 We shall walk through the valley
09:36 We shall walk in peace.
09:41 We shall walk through the valley
09:48 In peace
09:55 For Jesus Himself
10:00 Will be our leader
10:10 We shall walk
10:15 Through the valley
10:20 In peace
10:35 We shall walk in peace
10:49 We will meet
10:52 Our loved ones there
11:01 We will meet
11:04 Our loved ones there
11:15 For Jesus Himself
11:20 Will be our leader
11:30 We shall walk
11:35 Through the valley
11:39 In peace
11:46 There will be
11:48 No more trials there
11:57 There will be
12:01 No more trials there
12:14 For Jesus Himself
12:19 Will be our leader
12:32 We shall walk
12:38 Through the valley
12:44 In peace
13:04 We shall walk
13:09 In peace
13:28 Let's pray together.
13:31 Oh, God, we shall walk through the valley in peace,
13:33 Jesus will lead us.
13:37 We live in a world languishing
13:41 for that value of eternal peace,
13:44 when shall it come?
13:51 It's business to do until you do come.
13:55 And so, Holy Father, please,
13:59 let these moments in Holy Scripture
14:04 open not only our minds
14:05 but open our hearts to Your teaching.
14:09 We pray in Jesus' name.
14:11 Amen.
14:13 Stephen Hawking, you've heard of
14:15 the eminent British theoretical physicist.
14:20 Stephen Hawking turn 70, two weeks ago.
14:23 So to celebrate that milestone,
14:25 the magazine New Scientist
14:27 interviewed this brilliant author.
14:30 He wrote the book, A Brief History of Time.
14:32 You've read that book. Brilliant scientist.
14:37 They interviewed him
14:39 and as a result of that interview
14:41 we now know the mystery before which
14:44 even the great Stephen Hawking bows.
14:49 When the journalist asked him, "What do you think about
14:53 most during the day?"
14:56 Hawking replied and I put his words on the screen for you,
15:00 "Women. They are a complete mystery."
15:06 There you have ladies and gentlemen,
15:07 the pronouncement of
15:08 one of the brightest minds on earth.
15:10 We now know that mystery, women.
15:14 But women were no mystery to Jesus.
15:18 They will remain one half of His strategic plan
15:22 for the human race.
15:24 Case in point, our story today, "Jesus and One Woman."
15:30 Open your Bible with me please to the Gospel of John.
15:34 Our new semester series entitled, "The Last Days."
15:37 Let's put the title slide up please, The Last Days.
15:40 Not the last days of earth,
15:42 the last seven days of Jesus' life.
15:44 One-third of all four gospels devoted to the last seven days,
15:49 that's what counts, the last seven days.
15:53 Title of today's teaching,
15:54 "Of Perfume, Tears and Grumpy Old Men.
15:58 So grab your Bible.
15:59 You want to-- If you didn't bring your Bible,
16:01 oh, this is a narrative, it's a short
16:02 but punching narrative.
16:03 Grab the pew Bible in front of you.
16:05 Leave that-- leave that up on the screen, please,
16:08 because I want to say to those of you
16:09 who are joining us right now
16:10 on television or live streaming,
16:12 we're delighted to have you.
16:13 Glad you're here.
16:14 You can go to that website, you see that website there,
16:16 www.pmchurch.tv.
16:19 Go to the website, click on to--
16:21 this is the second teaching in this new series.
16:23 You just heard the title, and it will say study guide,
16:26 get that study guide.
16:27 Ushers would you make sure
16:29 that everybody here get a study guide.
16:30 Bless you.
16:31 This is an unusual study guide, it's for taking notes.
16:34 You'll see why in a moment.
16:35 There are no fill in the blanks
16:36 but you're going to need this.
16:37 There's one quotation I want you to have for sure.
16:39 So hold your hand up, I hope the choir
16:41 has the study guide, did you?
16:42 Good. Let's go.
16:44 All right, John 12.
16:47 So I am in the New King James Version.
16:48 Let's go to John 12:1,
16:53 "Then, six days before the Passover--"
16:55 At the end of this week He's dead.
16:58 This is Saturday night,
17:00 six days from now He'll be dead, Calvary.
17:03 "Then, six days before the Passover,
17:05 Jesus came to Bethany,
17:07 where Lazarus was who had been dead,
17:09 whom he raised from the dead."
17:11 That's where we were last week.
17:13 This is the same Lazarus.
17:14 This is last week's story now,
17:15 just providing the linkage here.
17:18 "There in that little village of Bethany,
17:19 they made him a supper."
17:21 Jesus is the-- He is the guest of honor.
17:24 But I need to tell you that the--
17:27 all the uninvited are crowded around
17:29 that banqueting hall that night
17:31 because for four days his body was decomposing
17:35 and now he's alive
17:36 and everybody wants to see Lazarus.
17:38 So Lazarus is also a guest of honor.
17:42 So they made him a supper in verse 2.
17:44 "And Martha served." That would be Lazarus' sister.
17:47 "But Lazarus was one of those
17:48 who sat at the table with Jesus."
17:50 Then verse 3, Mary,
17:53 that would be Lazarus' other sister.
17:56 "Mary took a pound of very costly oil spikenard,
18:01 anointed the feet of Jesus,
18:03 and wiped His feet with her hair.
18:05 And the house was filled with the fragrance of the oil."
18:10 Now by the Greek language here in John
18:13 and the other three synoptics.
18:15 This nard plant, here's what we know about it.
18:17 This nard plant was a tiny but fragrant blossoms
18:20 that only grew on the hills
18:23 at the feet of the mighty Himalayas
18:26 in northern India.
18:27 So you can understand it was a rare
18:30 and exclusive perfume oil.
18:34 Easily it can command an entire year of wages
18:39 for a commoner.
18:42 Scholars wonder, did Mary somehow liquidate
18:44 her part of the family inheritance.
18:46 We don't know.
18:47 All we know is that a great, at great expense
18:50 she purchased a pound of this spikenard
18:53 in a narrow alabaster flask
18:55 and quietly, surreptitiously slipping into
18:58 the banqueting room full of men,
19:01 she broke open her precious alabaster flask.
19:05 Read verse 3 again, "Then Mary took a pound--"
19:08 Now these are Roman pounds, about 12 ounces.
19:11 "Then Mary took a pound of very costly oil of spikenard,
19:14 anointed the feet of Jesus
19:16 and wiped His feet with her hair.
19:18 And the house was filled with the fragrance of the oil."
19:24 You know, I can never fool Karen.
19:25 When I come back, shopping for a gift for her,
19:27 I never fool her, whether it's for her birthday or
19:30 Valentines or Christmas or whatever
19:33 because I love to shop for perfume.
19:38 And so I go to that department store counter,
19:41 and I am never content.
19:42 I don't know how you are guys but I'm never content with
19:44 just getting one little sample.
19:46 Look I know they have these little white paper sticks
19:48 you're supposed to... and then smell the stick.
19:50 Forget it. For me it has to be on flesh.
19:52 I have to smell it.
19:53 So I took that one finger out...
19:56 Oh, it's good.
19:57 Then I take another one
19:58 because I love to get a lot of them.
19:59 Take the other one.
20:03 I get the third one. I go through all the fingers.
20:05 And I see Karen do this, so I drew on my wrist.
20:07 Oh, and it's good.
20:10 So I got to check it all out then I make the purchase.
20:13 And every time when I come walking through the door,
20:15 she always guesses what I bought her for a gift.
20:18 What's up with that?
20:20 Because a perfume worth its salt cannot be hidden.
20:24 That's what's up.
20:25 And that's what's happening here.
20:27 Mary has desperately tried to be discreet
20:30 and unnoticed as possible.
20:31 She timidly slips into that room of men.
20:33 She anoints the head and the feet of this man
20:35 who forgave her, her past of utter lossness.
20:40 He knew all about her past.
20:43 She can hardly restrain her tears,
20:46 such deep gratitude for that forgiveness.
20:50 By the way she has heard this man
20:52 seven times in tears himself, pleading with His father,
20:57 deliver this woman from what is holding her in the clutches.
21:01 Seven times He's begging for her deliverance.
21:05 And I am telling you, it's just the heart bursting
21:08 with gratitude.
21:09 And by the way, the rumor is out,
21:10 He's going to become the anointed Messiah King
21:14 and she wants to have her anointing
21:16 ahead of the public one.
21:19 And so she comes and breaks that flask
21:22 and the room becomes
21:23 a lovely department store perfume counter.
21:29 Verse 4,
21:33 "But one of His disciples, Judas Iscariot, Simon's son
21:41 who would betray him, said,
21:45 'Why was this fragrant oil not sold three hundred denarii
21:50 and given to the poor?'''
21:52 This, verse 6, "This he said,
21:56 not that he care for the poor,
21:58 but because he was a thief, and had the money box,
22:02 and he used to take what was put in it."
22:06 Unlike the synoptics, John intentionally IDs
22:13 two of the key players in Jesus' story,
22:16 the protagonist, John reveals her name
22:20 perhaps because Mary is now dead
22:22 and any embarrassment about her checkered past
22:24 is no longer relevant.
22:26 So he IDs the protagonist and he IDs the antagonist
22:30 because by identifying Judas as the instigator of this cruel
22:35 and heartless public shaming,
22:38 John deftly creates a powerful contrast
22:42 between Judas' greed and avarice
22:45 and Mary's utterly sacrificial devotion to the Savior.
22:50 I mean, like an awful sour thumb beside her,
22:54 Judas sticks out.
22:56 But like a fragrant blossom beside rancid waters is Mary.
23:05 Judas by the way was the chief instigator
23:07 but all the disciples, all the men piled on.
23:13 Watch this, we'll go to the Gospel of Mark now
23:15 and just get to his reading.
23:16 Mark 14:3, "While Jesus was in Bethany
23:19 reclining at the table in the home of Simon the Leper,
23:21 a woman came with an alabaster jar
23:23 of very expensive perfume.
23:27 It's made of pure nard.
23:28 She broke the jar and poured the perfume on Jesus' head.
23:31 Some of those present were saying
23:34 indignantly to one another, 'Why this waste of perfume?
23:37 Can you believe it?
23:39 It could have been sold for more than a year's wages
23:41 and the money given to the poor.'
23:43 And they rebuked her harshly."
23:46 All of them rebuked her harshly.
23:52 So how does Jesus respond?
23:53 Back to your own Bible verse 7 but Jesus said,
23:58 "Let her alone,
24:02 she has kept this for the day of My burial.
24:05 For the poor you have with you always,
24:09 but Me you do not have always."
24:16 Leave her alone.
24:21 I just love Jesus for that.
24:23 Now, you think about it, come on.
24:26 Nobody speaks up in her defense,
24:28 not her brother Lazarus, not her sister Martha,
24:32 not one of the disciples that has tasted
24:35 and enjoyed the warmth for that congenial hospitality
24:39 in that little Bethany home, nobody speaks up.
24:43 But one man, leave her alone.
24:48 How could we not help but love Jesus for this?
24:52 I tell you what, it takes hutspâ
24:54 to speak in defense of the defenseless, doesn't it?
24:57 I mean, come on, you think about it,
24:58 it takes moral backbone
24:59 to speak up in defense of the minority,
25:02 the marginalized when no one else dare say a word,
25:05 it does take courage, doesn't it?
25:08 How can you not help
25:09 but love Jesus in a moment like this?
25:12 I mean, look here.
25:13 He not only converses with the Samaritan woman,
25:16 He makes a Samaritan the hero of one of his greatest parable
25:19 so that we end up calling that hero
25:21 the Good Samaritan, and the Jews hated Samaritans.
25:26 Jesus not only forgives prostitutes and tax-collectors,
25:29 another sinners, he dines with them,
25:32 that social hutspâ in spades.
25:37 And when nobody else has time for the children
25:39 who is this who gathers little ones in his arms
25:42 and he hugs them and he blesses them?
25:46 Pagan gentiles...
25:49 Now Jesus, Syrophoenician mother,
25:53 pagan Roman centurion.
25:56 He's going to die for them all.
25:59 And women, when the strictest Rabbis
26:05 and the most orthodox Pharisees
26:07 would never be caught talking in public
26:09 to another woman other than their own wife,
26:12 Jesus gratefully publicly
26:14 received the ministry of many women, many.
26:18 Look at this, this is Calvary.
26:20 This is Mark 15, at the cross,
26:22 "There were also there at the cross,
26:24 women looking on from afar,
26:26 among whom were Mary Magdalene--"
26:28 And by the way, you just met Mary Magdalene
26:30 in John 12.
26:31 "Mary the mother of James the Less and of Joses,
26:34 and Salome who also followed him
26:37 and ministered to Him when He was in Galilee,
26:39 and many other women
26:42 who came up with Jesus to Jerusalem."
26:45 Isn't that amazing?
26:46 Many other women followed Him and ministered to Him
26:52 which means this "leave her alone"
26:55 is not some isolated little moment
26:57 in defense of a woman.
27:00 Obviously, Jesus gladly publicly
27:04 received the ministry of all these women.
27:09 Leave her alone.
27:12 When you think what just happened.
27:13 Come on, think.
27:14 What has just happened when he, in stern voice commands.
27:22 I mean, here's this woman.
27:25 She's just quietly entered into a man's world,
27:28 has humbly brought to Christ
27:30 her own expression of love and devotion
27:33 when suddenly noticed, for her outer bounds expression
27:36 a certain man leaps upon that act
27:38 and loudly declared, this is a misguided waste of effort
27:41 and a misappropriation of devotion.
27:45 And all-- have you noticed,
27:46 all it takes is for one man to protest
27:49 and soon other men to prove their male credentials
27:52 jump on the bandwagon until all of them
27:56 would drive this woman from their circle,
28:00 until another man interrupts, leave her alone,
28:05 leave her alone.
28:09 And remember, this is the same Jesus,
28:11 this is the same Mary
28:13 and from the same little village of Bethany.
28:16 Some month earlier, you remember the story
28:18 when Martha comes in the living room,
28:19 just all huffing puffing,
28:20 hey, come on, Jesus, what is up with this,
28:22 you just let my sister sitting here with all you men
28:25 when I got work to do in the kitchen,
28:26 would you command her to come back
28:27 to the kitchen with me?
28:30 Remember that story?
28:34 How did Jesus respond?
28:37 Mary, Martha is right,
28:39 you need to remember your place in this world,
28:41 it's not here with all the men and me,
28:44 it's in the kitchen where you belong.
28:45 Now, go, go, go, girl.
28:47 How did He respond?
28:48 Look at this, Luke 10, Luke 10,
28:53 "And Jesus answered and said to her--"
28:56 When He repeats your name
28:57 it's because He really-- He loves you.
28:59 "Martha, Martha,
29:02 you are worried and troubled about many things.
29:05 But one thing is needed, girl,
29:08 and Mary has chosen that good part,
29:10 which will not be taken away from her."
29:14 Martha, Martha, it's okay for Mary to be here
29:18 because she's chosen the better part.
29:21 She's doing it out of love for Me.
29:24 The very same observance as that Saturday night banquet,
29:31 she's doing it out of love for Me.
29:36 Makes you wonder, doesn't it?
29:38 It makes you wonder, where would Jesus stand today?
29:43 In a church that has opened its doors of ministry to all
29:48 except women?
29:52 Oh, sure, there are designated ministries in the church
29:55 that women are applauded for doing,
29:58 but no pastoral ministry is she allowed to perform
30:02 with the same recognition of spiritual authority
30:04 as her male counterparts enjoy.
30:08 Namely, the sacred, an ecclesiastical recognition
30:13 that God has already called and gifted the individual,
30:18 a calling with spiritual authority
30:20 and leadership recognize universally
30:22 in the church by something called ordination.
30:29 Ordination does not confer giftedness.
30:33 Ordination recognizes it's already there
30:37 and we see the fruit.
30:41 No, Mary, no, no.
30:43 For that, you need to leave this circle,
30:46 for God's word declares that this responsibility
30:49 of spiritual authority belongs only to men, I'm sorry.
30:54 It does.
31:00 I just read an article, in defense of that men only
31:03 position about ordination, bless the writers heart.
31:07 I have to wonder.
31:09 Why, what is so clear to me in Scripture
31:11 is not clear to the writer.
31:14 For example, the writer-- listen, the writer suggested
31:16 that when the Bible declares that the elder
31:18 or that would be the pastor is to be the husband of one wife
31:22 that clearly means that only men can hold
31:25 that position of ordain spiritual leadership.
31:29 But that's not how I read the text.
31:31 Let's look at the text. Let's put it on the screen.
31:33 1 Timothy 3:2, Paul writing, "A bishop-- "
31:37 That could be an elder,
31:39 "A bishop then must be blameless,
31:43 the husband of one wife, temperate, sober-minded,
31:46 of good behavior, hospitable, able to teach."
31:50 But listen, I know we'll require that text to be read
31:53 as meaning exclusively male then I require
31:56 Jesus instructions to His disciple ministers to be read
31:59 as meaning exclusively the way He phrases it.
32:02 Here's what He says to a group of men
32:04 who have just been ordained to the gospel ministry.
32:07 I want to see this, Matthew 10, we'll pick it up in verse 9,
32:11 He's getting ready to send them out on their first pastorate,
32:13 "Provide-- " He said, "Hey, provide neither gold
32:16 nor silver nor copper in your money belts."
32:19 No, I am not thinking, man, I got to get that wallet going
32:21 and got to find the money bill, I am not thinking that.
32:24 Verse 10, "Nor-- " don't get a bag,
32:27 don't get a suitcase for your journey,
32:29 you don't need two tunics nor sandals,
32:32 just the one you have on are all you need,
32:34 nor staff for a worker is worthy of his food.
32:39 Now, ladies and gentlemen, surely,
32:41 Jesus detailed instructions to His disciples,
32:44 do not mean that today we're not allowed to take suitcases
32:48 when we pastors travel and we're not allowed to take
32:50 an extra change of clothes, or an extra pair of sandals.
32:53 We should only wear sandals.
32:56 He's not saying, you got to have a staff
32:58 or no staff, is He?
33:01 Oh, come on, Dwight, please.
33:03 Jesus is speaking to specific man in a specific country
33:07 and culture at a specific time, you're stretching the scripture
33:10 and making require sandals and staffs and no suitcases
33:14 of his ministers 2000 years later,
33:18 which my friend is precisely the point.
33:23 We listen to ancient scripture,
33:25 even the red letter words of Jesus
33:27 and we interpret the principles
33:29 behind those words for our living
33:30 and ministering today, we make the application.
33:32 You know what Jesus is saying?
33:33 I believe He's saying we have to travel,
33:35 we have to travel light, we have to travel simply.
33:40 Which being interpreted simply and clearly means
33:43 that the church is to-- how did Paul put it?
33:47 He gave his counsel about ordaining
33:49 those who are the husband of one wife.
33:55 But what is he saying?
33:57 If he's not admonishing the church to ordain
34:01 those who are maritally faithful to their spouses.
34:06 Hey, look, no, no.
34:07 You say, no, no, Dwight, you can't do that,
34:08 that has to stay literal.
34:10 Jesus is figurative, this is literal.
34:12 Okay, let's say it stays literal.
34:15 Think about the implications if it remains literal.
34:17 If these words are to be a literal command for all time,
34:20 the husband of one wife, then there can be
34:23 no single ministers, no single ministers.
34:27 Well, how can you be single? You have to have a wife.
34:29 There can be no remarried ministers, no divorce ministers
34:34 because now you have two wives.
34:38 And number three, there can be no childless ministers
34:41 because the very next line says,
34:42 he must be very good at raising his children.
34:46 So you can't be a childless pastor. No, come on.
34:50 Dwight, nobody wishes to push that
34:51 single phrase that literally.
34:53 Everybody reinterprets to fit our society today
34:56 as we do what Jesus command to His disciples,
34:59 but for some reason, and I'm trying to figure this out.
35:02 For some reason, those who do not believe
35:05 that women should be granted the same spiritual authority
35:08 for their calling to gospel ministry,
35:10 they allow a free interpretation
35:11 of the phrase for singles.
35:13 Oh, yeah, you can have single.
35:14 Remarried, oh, yeah. Childless, no problem.
35:16 But inexplicably they suddenly demand
35:19 a strict literal interpretation for gender.
35:22 Oh, no, you have to be a man.
35:25 Three times you said we can interpret it away,
35:27 but this one you can't.
35:32 Almost humbly, personally disagree with them.
35:40 For I believe, I believe that they are
35:44 inconsistently interpreting scripture to fit their beliefs
35:50 and not allowing Holy Scripture to dictate their beliefs.
35:57 Yeah, but come on, Dwight, please.
35:59 Doesn't the Bible command women to keep silent in church
36:02 and do not exercise spiritual authority over men,
36:04 because Eve was created second and sin first.
36:09 That's a good question.
36:11 Let's reread what God very plainly declared to the--
36:15 to our first parents, Adam and Eve.
36:17 After their moral melt down in the Garden of Eden,
36:20 let's put Genesis 3 on the screen here.
36:22 "To the woman-- " this is the Creator,
36:24 this is the pre-incarnate Christ by the way,
36:26 the same one that was there with Mary.
36:29 "To the woman He said,
36:31 'I will greatly multiply your sorrow and your conception,
36:35 In pain you shall bring forth children,
36:37 your desire shall be for your husband,
36:39 And he shall rule over you.'"
36:42 Now, sadly many have read God's words to mean
36:45 that all women are to be subordinated to all men.
36:49 But that is simply not what God is saying.
36:53 In fact, the Creator very-- very clearly the Creator
36:56 literally in the Hebrew, here's what he is saying.
36:58 And your desire shall be for your man.
37:02 Another word for husband there is Iysh.
37:05 Your desire is for your man, which means this was never,
37:10 carte blanche decoration that all women
37:12 would be subordinated to all men in or out of the church.
37:17 It's not there. You know what this says.
37:20 This is a post fall, chain of command divine spiritual
37:24 leadership prescription dealing with husbands and wives.
37:30 That's what it is, which by the way
37:33 hardly diminishes the wife's role in marriage.
37:35 I mean, let me give you two reasons why.
37:37 If you've ever read Proverbs 31, the ideal wife.
37:40 Oh, mercy. Look at her financial leadership.
37:43 Look at her familial leadership.
37:44 Look at her managerial skills.
37:46 She buys and sells property
37:47 without consultation with anybody.
37:50 You can read Proverbs 31
37:52 and say, well, there is subjugation.
37:54 It's not about subjugation at all.
37:56 In fact with Proverbs 31, go ahead
37:58 and add Ephesians 6 where Paul takes
38:00 that Genesis 3 principle and applies and he says,
38:03 listen, this is really how it work, guys.
38:06 Both husband and wife are to submit to each other.
38:10 He describes mutual submission. But the husband has to--
38:15 Somebody's got to take the first step,
38:16 so it is the husband's responsibility
38:19 in the example of Christ self sacrificing love at Calvary,
38:23 it's the husband's example to initiate repentance.
38:26 I was wrong.
38:27 To offer forgiveness, to break the log jam.
38:32 Paul is carefully, carefully protecting
38:38 this wall that God has placed around
38:41 husband and wife in the human home.
38:46 But he's not making a statement.
38:48 Just as God was not about women and men on this planet.
38:52 Now, here's that line.
38:55 You need to see the line, that's in question.
38:58 Some people read this line for the first time they say,
38:59 whoa, what is that?
39:01 It's Paul writing, St. Paul,
39:03 "Let a woman learn in silence with all submission."
39:06 1 Timothy 2:11. Here comes verse 12.
39:08 "And I do not permit a woman to teach
39:10 or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence."
39:14 Does that mean all women are
39:16 to be subjugated to all men for all time?
39:19 Hardly, in the church? Not at all.
39:22 Let me show you something. That word for man, aner.
39:26 That word for women, gune.
39:28 Those words can be translated
39:29 either man, husband or woman, wife,
39:34 which means Paul's admonition can accurately read,
39:39 "Let a wife in church learn in silence,
39:42 for I do not permit a wife to teach
39:44 or to have authority over her husband."
39:47 Which being interpreted means Paul is carefully protecting
39:49 God's protective wall around marriage and home.
39:51 He is no way declaring all women
39:53 are subordinated to all men in the church
39:55 and only men are allowed spiritual authority.
39:57 He is not saying that at all.
39:59 He is talking what the Creator was talking about,
40:01 husband and wife relationship.
40:04 Post fall, somebody has to take the initiative.
40:11 Moreover, Moreover.
40:16 The position that men, only men are to be ordained
40:21 to the gospel ministry and thus be granted spiritual authority
40:24 in the church which I believe the Bible does not support.
40:28 That position is not supported biblically.
40:31 But isn't that position particularly incongruous
40:36 in the denomination that was founded by a woman
40:43 and some male colleagues.
40:47 What's up with that?
40:54 The most prolific American author of either gender.
40:58 The third most translated human being
41:00 in the history of the earth.
41:03 A wife, a mother, a visionary, a leader, raised up
41:11 the most expansive Protestant educational system on earth.
41:15 She raised up the most expansive
41:17 Protestant health system on earth.
41:18 She raised up the most expansive
41:20 Christian missionary movement on earth.
41:23 Isn't a bit incongruous that some within this community
41:30 of faith which recognizes spiritual authority of
41:33 that little 5 foot 2 inch woman named Ellen White.
41:36 Isn't it incongruous that some who revered her authority
41:41 would continue to insist that women should not
41:44 exercise spiritual authority over men?
41:47 To me that is just one astounding anomaly.
41:51 How do you explain it?
41:56 And by the way, any little comment about well,
42:01 women prophets, women who exercise the prophetic gift
42:04 has spiritual authority that rest of the women don't.
42:06 That's just playing war games. Isn't it something?
42:13 Especially when, listen to this, especially when
42:16 not a single word from her ever prohibiting the church
42:21 from coming to a prayerful careful biblical understanding
42:25 that is utterly consistent with the Bible witness to conclude
42:29 that women who are called by God today share with men
42:33 the same spiritual authority and accountability
42:35 of gospel ministry as recognized by ordination.
42:38 Not a single word saying. Oh, no, no, no.
42:41 You can't go down that path. No word.
42:45 There is not a single word and I read widely, trust me.
42:50 There is not a single word ever suggesting
42:53 that such a prayerful, careful biblical decision
42:56 would be out of harmony with God's will
42:58 for His people at this time in history.
43:02 In fact to the contrary, I got to share this with you.
43:05 I came across these words in Acts of the Apostle.
43:08 While preparing my GYC sermon on Acts 10 and 11.
43:12 You remember Acts, the story behind Acts 10 and 11.
43:14 You remember Cornelius, the Roman centurion.
43:17 And you remember Peter who has never,
43:20 he has never put a sandal in a Gentile's home.
43:22 He would never on the pain of death he would never do it.
43:25 And you remember an angel shows up to Cornelius
43:27 and says, hey, get a guy name Peter, he is over in Joppa
43:29 and the Holy Spirit chose out Peter by the way
43:32 go with these people who have come.
43:33 You remember that story.
43:34 So Peter finds himself doing
43:35 what he has never done in all his life,
43:37 he has put his sandals in a Gentile's, a pagan home.
43:42 And then he begins to preach Jesus in.
43:44 God doesn't even wait for Peter to finish his sermon,
43:46 suddenly in the middle of the sermon, boom,
43:48 the Holy Sprit is poured out on these Gentle pagan seekers.
43:54 Wow. So Peter says baptize them all.
44:00 But, oh, boy, when he gets back to Jerusalem,
44:03 he is in hot water and they call him on the red carpet
44:06 and they say, what were you thinking
44:09 taking to Gentile's home.
44:12 And so in chapter 11, Peter is--
44:14 listen and he tell to some guys, oh,
44:16 here's what happened and he goes to the whole story.
44:18 He gets down to the end of the story
44:20 and I want you to listen very carefully now
44:22 to what he says to the hierarchy in Jerusalem.
44:26 And as he says, I'm there preaching away.
44:29 "And as I begin to speak the Holy Spirit fell on them,
44:33 as upon us at the beginning.
44:37 If therefore God gave them the same gift as He gave us
44:42 when we believed on the Lord Jesus Christ,
44:45 who was I that I could withstand God?"
44:48 I mean they have the same gift.
44:51 I didn't realize that but they had the same gift.
44:54 How can I say, no, only me with that gift counts, not you.
44:59 I couldn't do it. Brethren, I could not do it.
45:05 The wall separating Jews and Gentiles
45:08 began its last crumble in that incident.
45:15 Amazing.
45:17 I mean, that's what Peter just said
45:19 that's the question for the church today.
45:21 If God has poured out His spirit on young women
45:23 and not so young women who are ministering
45:25 just as Mary did to the Lord Jesus.
45:27 And the fruits of their ministry are dramatically clear
45:30 to all who observed their ministry.
45:33 If therefore God gave them the same gift He gave us,
45:36 then who are we as men to stand in the way.
45:47 How in the name of Christ can we defend this wall?
45:51 When our leaders are circumnavigating this planet
45:54 these days begging the church of God
45:56 to plea for the outpouring of the Holy Spirit
45:59 and I joined them and I believe we need that outpouring
46:02 but how can we stand before God and beg for that infilling
46:07 when there is a wall that's separating us.
46:11 The wall will have to come down
46:13 before the spirit can come down.
46:17 You can't come down with the wall blocking your way.
46:20 It's not my fault God says, you have to help me.
46:24 Get this wall down. Then I will come.
46:30 So we'll keep praying, we'll keep praying,
46:36 but we have the answer to our prayers in our own hands.
46:45 Now, here's that line from Ellen White,
46:47 I want you to get this.
46:49 This is her inspired commentary.
46:51 At the moment chapter 11 comes to an end.
46:54 Put it on the screen for you, Acts of the Apostles.
46:57 "Thus, without controversy, prejudice was broken down,
47:01 the exclusiveness established
47:02 by the custom of ages was abandoned."
47:06 By the way those italics are mine.
47:09 "The exclusiveness established
47:11 by the custom of ages was abandoned."
47:15 We've always done it this way.
47:17 We've always through the ages done it this way.
47:20 But when the Holy Spirit came down,
47:22 "the exclusiveness established
47:24 by the custom of ages was abandoned
47:26 and the way was opened for the gospel
47:28 to be proclaimed to the Gentiles."
47:30 Isn't that amazing?
47:32 It took that wall to come down to open up the gospel
47:35 to be proclaimed more widely, more effectively,
47:38 more powerfully than ever before.
47:42 But did you guessed that line.
47:44 The exclusiveness established
47:46 by the custom of ages was abandoned.
47:51 And ladies and gentlemen, isn't it time for the wall
47:57 to come down in the gospel ministry?
48:04 For how can God possibly bless the exclusiveness
48:09 established by the custom of ages.
48:15 Look, women might be a mystery to Stephen Hawking,
48:19 but they are no mystery to God.
48:22 For women are one half
48:25 of His strategic plan for the human race
48:28 and women are one half of His will for the gospel ministry.
48:35 Amen. Let's pray.
48:45 Oh, Jesus, defender of the defenseless,
48:51 remover of the wall,
48:55 isn't it time for the church to become just like You.
49:06 And my head is still bowed in prayer.
49:09 I need to make an appeal here
49:12 and this appeal is only for the women who are here,
49:17 who're watching, who're listening.
49:21 Three appeals.
49:24 Number one, ladies, would you be willing
49:27 to offer your life to Jesus like Mary
49:31 in gratitude for His loving sacrifice on your behalf?
49:37 Would you?
49:38 I don't really know the answer to that question.
49:40 Question two. His appeal number two.
49:44 Would you be willing to offer your career
49:48 as a ministry for Him?
49:52 A young woman come in to my office after first church,
49:56 said I've taken science here.
50:00 We talked.
50:03 It doesn't matter your career,
50:04 it doesn't matter your major here,
50:06 God has led you to choose that, I believe.
50:10 But would you be willing to offer that major,
50:13 that career to come or the career you're already in,
50:16 as a lawyer, physician, a homemaker, a wife.
50:22 Would you be willing to offer your career to Jesus,
50:28 so that it might be a daily ministry for Him.
50:34 And then appeal number three. I hesitate with this one.
50:41 I hesitate to ask you to offer your life for gospel ministry
50:46 because the truth is not many young women are being placed.
50:54 And in some places the door is not opened at all.
51:00 But I cannot not invite you to respond to Christ's call
51:05 whatever the spirit means for you.
51:11 And so with these three appeals in your heart,
51:15 I'd like to ask the women who are here,
51:18 if you are willing to respond to one of these three appeals
51:21 to stand to your feet just as Mary stepped into that room
51:27 in front of all those men,
51:31 to demonstrate her devotion to Jesus.
51:34 I'd like to invite you to stand to your feet
51:39 and by standing you say to Jesus,
51:43 I am available to You.
51:49 I am available to You.
52:01 God bless you.
52:04 Oh, Jesus, they stand before You,
52:08 You who stood up for them long ago,
52:12 they stand up for You now.
52:15 Jesus seal her devotion, seal her passion,
52:19 seal her calling, seal her commitment,
52:25 and take her as you did with Mary,
52:29 turn the world upside down through her ministry.
52:36 Oh, Jesus, we all would stand before You.
52:41 we all would offer our lives to You.
52:45 And so, I wish to stand with these women
52:47 and I invite my brothers here if they wish
52:50 to stand with them, to stand with me now.
52:55 So we're all standing,
52:56 the whole family of God is standing.
52:58 We're saying whatever You want Jesus,
53:02 use us any way You wish,
53:04 the hour has come for the spirit to be outpoured
53:10 and we wish to be a part
53:15 of that mighty final gift.
53:21 Seal all of us Jesus.
53:23 Seal us for the journey ahead
53:26 and may You be glorified please,
53:29 may be You glorified, in Your name we pray.
53:33 Amen.
53:35 I want to sing one stanza.
53:36 I pulled the hymn a lot from you,
53:37 just one stanza of this beautiful I will follow
53:40 Thee, my Savior, Wheresoe'er Christ shall lead, it's 623.
53:45 Take the hymn aloud, 623 just one stanza.
53:52 And then we'll leave worship to the world that await us.
53:56 Stay Stanley.
54:09 I will follow Thee, my Savior
54:15 Wheresoe'er my lot may be
54:21 Where Thou goest I will follow
54:27 Yes, my Lord, I'll follow Thee
54:34 I will follow Thee, my Savior
54:40 Thou didst shed Thy blood for me
54:47 And though all men should forsake Thee
54:53 By Thy grace I'll follow Thee
55:03 I want to sing that.
55:04 I want to sing that chorus one more time.
55:07 It's such a beautiful confession.
55:09 And it says although all men will forsake you,
55:13 although all people will forsake You,
55:16 oh, Jesus, I will follow You.
55:18 Let's sing it, we'll sing it quiet now
55:20 as our prayer, it's a beautiful prayer.
55:23 We pray this in commitment.
55:27 I will follow Thee, my Savior
55:34 Thou didst shed Thy blood for me
55:41 And though all men should forsake Thee
55:48 By Thy grace I'll follow Thee
55:59 And now may the love of the Father,
56:07 and the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ
56:13 and the communion of the Holy Spirit
56:17 abide with us all.
56:21 Amen.
56:35 It's been a pleasure to be able to worship with you today.
56:38 I hope the spirit of Jesus has blessed your time
56:41 with us right here at the Pioneer Memorial Church
56:43 on the campus of Andrews University.
56:45 Do you know that around the world
56:46 people join us every week for this hour of worship?
56:48 We're always looking as a consequence for new ways
56:51 to bridge, somehow to connect with these people
56:54 who come here to worship via the telecast.
56:57 One of the areas that is quickly growing
56:58 for us is our website.
57:00 We had more than a hundred and forty thousand visitors
57:03 last year.
57:04 It's an incredible opportunity
57:06 that God has given us to expand His kingdom.
57:09 If you would like to help partner with us
57:11 as we seek to spread the everlasting gospel,
57:13 I'd love to have you call our toll free numbers.
57:16 We've got very friendly operator standing by.
57:18 Here's the number, 877-HIS-WILL.
57:22 877 and then the two words HIS WILL.
57:24 One of the operators would be happy to give you the details
57:27 of how you can partner with this global ministry.
57:30 If you prefer, listen you can do it all online.
57:32 Go to our website please, www.pmchurch.tv.
57:36 I'd be honored to have the privilege of partnering
57:38 with you as we seek to spread the truth
57:40 about God for this generation.
57:42 We are living in urgent times.
57:46 Now more than ever, we've got to go to the world
57:49 with the good news entrusted to us.
57:51 So once here's that toll free number, 877-HIS-WILL.
57:55 Thank you in advance for your generosity.
57:58 That blesses me and you grow this ministry.
58:01 I pray that the spirit of Christ will abide
58:03 with you every step of the way
58:05 and I hope you'll come back again next time right here
58:08 as we continue our worship journey together.


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