This is 3ABN Now 00:00:15.84\00:00:17.25 with John and Rosemary Malkiewycz. 00:00:17.28\00:00:21.58 Hello, and welcome to today's program. 00:00:21.62\00:00:24.12 I'm Rosemary and this is John, my husband. 00:00:24.15\00:00:27.22 It's good to have you here with me today. 00:00:27.26\00:00:29.19 It's always good to be with you, Rosemary. 00:00:29.22\00:00:30.56 Yes, I know, we enjoy each other's company. 00:00:30.59\00:00:32.76 You know, we've worked together for 27 years. 00:00:32.79\00:00:38.90 And a lot of people don't like working 00:00:38.93\00:00:40.84 with their husband or wife. 00:00:40.87\00:00:42.24 They want to get away from them sometimes, 00:00:42.27\00:00:43.94 but we're together all the time. 00:00:43.97\00:00:45.31 So it's really good, isn't it? 00:00:45.34\00:00:47.11 Yes, it is. 00:00:47.14\00:00:48.48 And it's been good working in the Lord's work 00:00:48.51\00:00:49.84 for that period of time. 00:00:49.88\00:00:51.21 Yes, it is very good. 00:00:51.25\00:00:52.58 But today on this program where we're working together, 00:00:52.61\00:00:56.79 we're going to be talking to a couple of people 00:00:56.82\00:00:59.09 who have been on the program twice before 00:00:59.12\00:01:02.49 talking about a specific place called Batuna. 00:01:02.52\00:01:06.59 Now Batuna is in the Solomon Islands. 00:01:06.63\00:01:09.46 And we have been talking about the history of Batuna 00:01:09.50\00:01:12.27 but last time we didn't get to finish, 00:01:12.30\00:01:14.14 we ran out of time to finish the program. 00:01:14.17\00:01:15.97 And there's some interesting stories 00:01:16.00\00:01:17.34 that we gonna be talking. 00:01:17.37\00:01:18.71 There are still some interesting stories 00:01:18.74\00:01:20.08 about Batuna to cover today. 00:01:20.11\00:01:22.28 So sit back and relax 00:01:22.31\00:01:24.38 and listen to Batuna's history part two, 00:01:24.41\00:01:28.08 when we talk about the translating work, etc. 00:01:28.12\00:01:31.89 which is a really, really good and Glynn Lock and Ron Keeler, 00:01:31.92\00:01:34.82 welcome to the program again. 00:01:34.86\00:01:36.19 Thank you. 00:01:36.22\00:01:37.56 They're both still involved in working in Batuna, 00:01:37.59\00:01:39.93 aren't you? 00:01:39.96\00:01:41.40 More or less. More or less. 00:01:41.43\00:01:43.26 In fact, Glynn has been on the program too, 00:01:43.30\00:01:45.47 with his brother and sister 00:01:45.50\00:01:47.17 talking about being missionary kids. 00:01:47.20\00:01:50.57 And that was an enjoyable program too, 00:01:50.61\00:01:52.37 Glynn. 00:01:52.41\00:01:53.74 It never gets out of your blood, 00:01:53.78\00:01:55.11 does it, Glynn? 00:01:55.14\00:01:56.48 It's a bit like aviation. 00:01:56.51\00:01:59.28 You still want to keep flying? You get infected by it. 00:01:59.31\00:02:01.98 I thought you're gonna say 00:02:02.02\00:02:03.35 it's like a virus you get infected. 00:02:03.39\00:02:05.19 Well, you're nearly right. 00:02:05.22\00:02:07.39 It gets in your blood anyway. 00:02:07.42\00:02:09.29 You've got a Bible verse for? 00:02:09.32\00:02:10.93 Yes, yes, I have. 00:02:10.96\00:02:12.89 And it's 1 Corinthians 1:27. 00:02:12.93\00:02:17.93 And the Bible says, 00:02:17.97\00:02:22.07 "But the God, 00:02:22.10\00:02:23.44 but God has chosen the foolish things 00:02:23.47\00:02:25.47 of the world to confound the wise. 00:02:25.51\00:02:27.64 And God has chosen the weak things of the world 00:02:27.68\00:02:29.98 to confound the things which are mighty." 00:02:30.01\00:02:33.01 Interesting verse, Glynn, you've chosen that, 00:02:33.05\00:02:35.82 and you mentioned it last time, 00:02:35.85\00:02:37.19 but you like that verse, don't you? 00:02:37.22\00:02:39.09 Share with us a little bit. 00:02:39.12\00:02:40.46 Yeah, it's, it is a good text. 00:02:40.49\00:02:43.12 And it illustrates particularly 00:02:43.16\00:02:44.76 what we will be talking about part of today. 00:02:44.79\00:02:47.00 The battle, 00:02:47.03\00:02:48.36 it doesn't always go to the mighty, 00:02:48.40\00:02:52.03 the people who are behind the scenes 00:02:52.07\00:02:54.04 who do all the supporting and the, 00:02:54.07\00:02:56.47 if you can say it, the plotting the army, 00:02:56.50\00:03:00.71 the front person is not always the army, 00:03:00.74\00:03:02.68 it's the people who behind it. 00:03:02.71\00:03:06.41 We'll be talking about a particular person today 00:03:06.45\00:03:08.38 who was one of those kinds of people. 00:03:08.42\00:03:11.42 Then someone that we in our church history, 00:03:11.45\00:03:14.02 most of us will never have heard about. 00:03:14.06\00:03:16.46 That's right. 00:03:16.49\00:03:17.83 Never have heard about, 00:03:17.86\00:03:19.19 but of significant contributor to the work of the church 00:03:19.23\00:03:22.43 in the early days of the Solomons. 00:03:22.46\00:03:24.63 Yeah, a very, very good story, too. 00:03:24.67\00:03:26.80 I'm looking forward to it. 00:03:26.84\00:03:28.40 And, Ron, I have your verse. 00:03:28.44\00:03:31.14 You have chosen Hebrews 1:10-11. 00:03:31.17\00:03:36.68 He actually had three verses, three separate places, 00:03:36.71\00:03:39.98 but we chose to use this one. 00:03:40.02\00:03:42.48 They're all about the same thing. 00:03:42.52\00:03:45.25 It says in verse 10, 00:03:45.29\00:03:48.09 "And thou Lord in the beginning 00:03:48.12\00:03:49.89 has laid the foundation of the earth 00:03:49.92\00:03:52.53 and the heavens are the works of thine hands. 00:03:52.56\00:03:55.83 Thy shall perish, but thou remainest. 00:03:55.86\00:03:59.00 And thy shall all wax old, as does a garment. 00:03:59.03\00:04:03.57 Ron, you explain why you chose that verse? 00:04:03.61\00:04:06.44 Today, there is so much publicity 00:04:06.47\00:04:09.61 and protest about saving the environment. 00:04:09.64\00:04:14.05 But if a person who studies the scriptures, 00:04:14.08\00:04:16.85 you'll realize the earth will wear out 00:04:16.89\00:04:19.92 and God has a restoration plan. 00:04:19.95\00:04:22.12 We cannot save ourselves. 00:04:22.16\00:04:25.03 And if people would read the scriptures, 00:04:25.06\00:04:27.83 especially revelation 00:04:27.86\00:04:29.20 that talks about the restoration plan 00:04:29.23\00:04:31.80 that God has in place, 00:04:31.83\00:04:33.97 they wouldn't have to worry 00:04:34.00\00:04:35.34 about the issues that are going on. 00:04:35.37\00:04:37.81 Sure, we should look after the planet, 00:04:37.84\00:04:39.54 I'm not saying we shouldn't. 00:04:39.57\00:04:41.54 But there's so much publicity 00:04:41.58\00:04:43.61 and always focuses on the environment, 00:04:43.65\00:04:45.91 the environment, 00:04:45.95\00:04:47.28 let's save ourselves for the next generation 00:04:47.32\00:04:49.65 and future generation. 00:04:49.68\00:04:51.35 But the scripture says 00:04:51.39\00:04:52.75 the earth will wear out like a garment. 00:04:52.79\00:04:55.52 Wax old. And wax old. 00:04:55.56\00:04:57.13 Be morph agent. Morph. 00:04:57.16\00:04:58.49 And our clothes do wear out. 00:04:58.53\00:05:00.36 And is, is going to do exactly the same thing. 00:05:00.40\00:05:03.50 We'll use up the resources, but God has a restoration plan. 00:05:03.53\00:05:06.90 You know, Ron, 00:05:06.94\00:05:08.27 we actually have to do something 00:05:08.30\00:05:09.64 and I want to encourage the viewers to take your Bible 00:05:09.67\00:05:12.51 and have a look and see 00:05:12.54\00:05:13.88 what God has written in there for us 00:05:13.91\00:05:16.28 to know that we're living in a time 00:05:16.31\00:05:18.88 where this world is waxing old, 00:05:18.91\00:05:20.45 like you said, 00:05:20.48\00:05:21.82 but there's something that you can do. 00:05:21.85\00:05:24.35 This world is not going to be our final home as it is now, 00:05:24.39\00:05:27.46 it's going to be a new world, 00:05:27.49\00:05:29.12 and you have the opportunity to be there. 00:05:29.16\00:05:31.09 It's your choice. 00:05:31.13\00:05:32.46 And you accept the good news. 00:05:32.49\00:05:34.10 That's what the Bible says, 00:05:34.13\00:05:35.60 it's the good news 00:05:35.63\00:05:36.97 that you can live in a new world, 00:05:37.00\00:05:38.73 a perfect world, in fact, 00:05:38.77\00:05:40.64 and the way to do that is to find out about Jesus 00:05:40.67\00:05:43.07 because He's the one 00:05:43.10\00:05:44.44 that's going to make it possible. 00:05:44.47\00:05:45.81 Amen. 00:05:45.84\00:05:47.18 This morning, in our devotional here at work 00:05:47.21\00:05:49.24 in our worship time, 00:05:49.28\00:05:50.61 we were reading about the word earth. 00:05:50.65\00:05:53.25 In 2 Peter, where it says 00:05:53.28\00:05:54.88 that the earth or the elements will melt. 00:05:54.92\00:05:57.32 Yeah. 00:05:57.35\00:05:58.69 It's fermented, 00:05:58.72\00:06:00.06 God is going to renew everything, 00:06:00.09\00:06:01.42 He's going to purify with fire. 00:06:01.46\00:06:02.79 Yes. 00:06:02.82\00:06:04.16 And make it new. 00:06:04.19\00:06:05.53 So I'm, I think there's a wonderful promise. 00:06:05.56\00:06:08.63 Yeah. 00:06:08.66\00:06:10.00 It will wax old. 00:06:10.03\00:06:11.53 And there's a text in, 00:06:11.57\00:06:13.77 brought in the beginning of the Bible in Genesis 00:06:13.80\00:06:15.80 where it talks about the Garden of Eden. 00:06:15.84\00:06:19.11 With Adam and Eve we're asked to look after it, 00:06:19.14\00:06:25.38 to look after what was made... 00:06:25.41\00:06:26.75 Stewards. 00:06:26.78\00:06:28.12 So it's incumbent on us as Christians 00:06:28.15\00:06:29.65 and all our people I suppose right 00:06:29.68\00:06:31.79 through our nation and through the world 00:06:31.82\00:06:33.82 to look after what we've got. 00:06:33.86\00:06:35.69 There is, it's true, 00:06:35.72\00:06:37.06 there is going to come a time when it will grow old. 00:06:37.09\00:06:39.93 But that doesn't mean to say 00:06:39.96\00:06:41.30 that we can be a derelict in our duty, 00:06:41.33\00:06:43.70 we still need to look after. 00:06:43.73\00:06:45.37 The world still a beautiful place, 00:06:45.40\00:06:47.00 you know, the flowers still grow. 00:06:47.04\00:06:49.24 And the earth brings forth its fruit, 00:06:49.27\00:06:52.37 so you and I can enjoy food, 00:06:52.41\00:06:54.11 the food, but it's true, 00:06:54.14\00:06:56.95 you know, we are really in a way 00:06:56.98\00:06:59.08 not caring for it as we should 00:06:59.11\00:07:00.78 because greed, 00:07:00.82\00:07:02.28 and profit and money dictate more than caring 00:07:02.32\00:07:06.45 for what God has given us. 00:07:06.49\00:07:08.39 I think it comes down to the point, 00:07:08.42\00:07:09.99 what is our main focus? 00:07:10.03\00:07:12.53 What are we looking at the most? 00:07:12.56\00:07:14.80 Is caring for the planet is important? 00:07:14.83\00:07:17.53 We should all be doing that. 00:07:17.57\00:07:19.40 But do we make that our primary focus 00:07:19.43\00:07:22.14 more than helping people, 00:07:22.17\00:07:24.67 more than showing people the God, 00:07:24.71\00:07:27.41 who's going to restore everything. 00:07:27.44\00:07:30.31 So it has to be a balancing act between them. 00:07:30.35\00:07:33.01 But we should be knowing 00:07:33.05\00:07:34.95 that God says He's going to renew it 00:07:34.98\00:07:37.25 'cause it's going to grow old, it's gonna wear out. 00:07:37.29\00:07:41.86 And it's a really good thing to keep in mind, 00:07:41.89\00:07:44.56 He's gonna do that. 00:07:44.59\00:07:46.23 Now we're going to go, 00:07:46.26\00:07:47.63 just give us a little bit of a rundown 00:07:47.66\00:07:49.83 on what we covered last time, just as a recap. 00:07:49.86\00:07:54.44 So that we can then go on with our story of this, 00:07:54.47\00:07:57.21 of different people, but especially one. 00:07:57.24\00:08:01.71 The Seventh-day Adventist Church 00:08:01.74\00:08:03.48 made an entry into the Solomon Islands 00:08:03.51\00:08:05.25 way back in 1914. 00:08:05.28\00:08:07.65 And a Welsh minister and his wife 00:08:07.68\00:08:13.22 traveled from Australia to the Solomon Islands 00:08:13.25\00:08:15.26 on a bench full boat, 00:08:15.29\00:08:16.62 along with a little mission boat 00:08:16.66\00:08:19.96 to start the work of the church. 00:08:20.00\00:08:21.33 And that was in 1914. So we're now in 2019. 00:08:21.36\00:08:25.43 So it's 105 years ago 00:08:25.47\00:08:27.44 since the Seventh-day Adventist Church went 00:08:27.47\00:08:30.17 into the Solomon Islands and start working there. 00:08:30.21\00:08:33.68 And they were offloaded 00:08:33.71\00:08:38.35 at the capital 00:08:38.38\00:08:39.91 of the Western Solomons at Gizo. 00:08:39.95\00:08:42.28 And then they worked their way through to some of the islands 00:08:42.32\00:08:46.52 in what is now the Roviana Lagoon 00:08:46.55\00:08:49.06 was known as the Roviana Lagoon, 00:08:49.09\00:08:50.56 they went to and into Viru Harbor, 00:08:50.59\00:08:54.20 and then eventually into the Marovo. 00:08:54.23\00:08:58.30 And there were three significant people 00:08:58.33\00:09:01.70 to get the church into the Marovo, 00:09:01.74\00:09:04.31 one of them was Jones himself. 00:09:04.34\00:09:06.21 And there was a British Commissioner, 00:09:06.24\00:09:07.94 Mr. Barley, Barley, 00:09:07.98\00:09:10.11 and then there was Chief Tatagu from the Marovo people 00:09:10.15\00:09:13.68 from the Marovo Island 00:09:13.72\00:09:15.05 and the negotiations that was successful there 00:09:15.08\00:09:18.69 got the church 00:09:18.72\00:09:20.06 onto an island called Sasaghana, 00:09:20.09\00:09:21.86 where, that was the first mission station in 00:09:21.89\00:09:24.99 for the Seventh-day Adventist Church 00:09:25.03\00:09:26.36 in the Marovo Lagoon. 00:09:26.39\00:09:27.73 So that entailed a lot of building 00:09:27.76\00:09:30.00 and a lot of infrastructure being set up? 00:09:30.03\00:09:32.87 Not so much as Sasaghana 00:09:32.90\00:09:34.24 because there was a very short history 00:09:34.27\00:09:36.57 of Sasaghana. 00:09:36.60\00:09:37.94 And the reason for that 00:09:37.97\00:09:39.31 is not that the people weren't responsive, 00:09:39.34\00:09:40.68 or the church, 00:09:40.71\00:09:42.04 the people were incapable of working, 00:09:42.08\00:09:44.21 but simply because of the physical size 00:09:44.25\00:09:47.28 of the land that was available. 00:09:47.32\00:09:49.32 It wasn't big enough to have a school, a church, 00:09:49.35\00:09:53.25 and extensive gardens that they could grow food 00:09:53.29\00:09:56.32 to feed the students. 00:09:56.36\00:09:58.09 So it was moved from Sasaghana to another little island 00:09:58.13\00:10:00.90 in a Marovo called Telina. 00:10:00.93\00:10:03.57 And Telina was part, 00:10:03.60\00:10:10.04 the original inhabitants of Telina 00:10:10.07\00:10:12.87 previously were part of the Marovo tribe, 00:10:12.91\00:10:16.08 or the Babata tribe. 00:10:16.11\00:10:17.61 But due to some political issues 00:10:17.65\00:10:19.38 in the tribe, 00:10:19.41\00:10:20.75 some of them moved 00:10:20.78\00:10:22.12 out of that particular tribe and became 00:10:22.15\00:10:23.55 a separate organization at Telina. 00:10:23.59\00:10:26.15 And then they were brought after they abandoned Sasaghana, 00:10:26.19\00:10:32.33 they'll have to leave Sasaghana because of their land problem. 00:10:32.36\00:10:35.33 They went to Telina but by too, 00:10:35.36\00:10:37.67 believe within a year or so 00:10:37.70\00:10:40.00 they were up against the same problem again, 00:10:40.04\00:10:42.50 not enough land to grow gardens. 00:10:42.54\00:10:45.27 Telina is only a fairly small island, 00:10:45.31\00:10:46.78 you can paddle a canoe around in about half an hour. 00:10:46.81\00:10:50.51 Oh, that is little. 00:10:50.55\00:10:51.88 It's only tiny, 00:10:51.91\00:10:53.35 and they have a headquarters for the mission, 00:10:53.38\00:10:58.35 a school 00:10:58.39\00:11:00.59 and it's supposed it'd be enough land for gardens, 00:11:00.62\00:11:03.43 but that just wasn't that much land there. 00:11:03.46\00:11:06.06 It's interesting. 00:11:06.09\00:11:07.43 You're saying about gardens all the time. 00:11:07.46\00:11:09.83 Because you know, the staple diet there. 00:11:09.86\00:11:13.67 I don't know, I'd imagine 00:11:13.70\00:11:15.04 there'd be a lot of fish from the sea. 00:11:15.07\00:11:18.77 But if you wanted to, 00:11:18.81\00:11:20.74 but if you wanted to have vegetables in that 00:11:20.78\00:11:22.71 you need land, don't you? 00:11:22.74\00:11:24.08 You do. 00:11:24.11\00:11:25.45 And the land on Telina 00:11:25.48\00:11:27.68 as much as what same as the land on Sasaghana, 00:11:27.72\00:11:31.99 it is a coral island. 00:11:32.02\00:11:33.96 Okay. 00:11:33.99\00:11:35.32 So Telina is very small coral. 00:11:35.36\00:11:38.86 Not a lot, not a lot of top soil. 00:11:38.89\00:11:41.20 So no place to grow garden. 00:11:41.23\00:11:43.30 That was the big issue. 00:11:43.33\00:11:44.67 So that's the difference 00:11:44.70\00:11:46.03 between a lack of volcanic island 00:11:46.07\00:11:48.64 and a coral island. 00:11:48.67\00:11:50.01 Yes. 00:11:50.04\00:11:51.37 The coral island has been built up 00:11:51.41\00:11:52.81 because of the dead coral and soil deposits on it, 00:11:52.84\00:11:56.61 I presume. 00:11:56.64\00:11:57.98 Yes. 00:11:58.01\00:11:59.35 And then a volcanic one, 00:11:59.38\00:12:00.72 of course, that's all beautiful organic soil 00:12:00.75\00:12:03.39 from the lava. 00:12:03.42\00:12:04.75 Yes. 00:12:04.79\00:12:06.12 When we were children we lived not far from Rabaul. 00:12:06.15\00:12:10.09 And Rabaul has, 00:12:10.13\00:12:11.99 the Rabaul Harbor is ringed by volcanoes. 00:12:12.03\00:12:14.96 Okay. 00:12:15.00\00:12:16.33 And it was in the old days many years ago, 00:12:16.36\00:12:18.93 it was a volcano itself. 00:12:18.97\00:12:20.44 And when this massive volcano erupted, 00:12:20.47\00:12:22.27 it blew the side out and the sea came in 00:12:22.30\00:12:24.77 and that created the harbor. 00:12:24.81\00:12:26.51 And but this one, two, 00:12:26.54\00:12:28.08 about four volcanoes around the rim of the Rebel 00:12:28.11\00:12:31.71 but it's a magic place to grow things 00:12:31.75\00:12:33.62 because of the volcanic soil. 00:12:33.65\00:12:35.75 Telina, dead opposite. 00:12:35.78\00:12:39.09 Just coral. Oh, dead coral. 00:12:39.12\00:12:41.26 And because of seismic activity, 00:12:41.29\00:12:43.36 there's a lot of earthquakes around the Solomons. 00:12:43.39\00:12:45.86 And it was probably uplifted to some degree 00:12:45.89\00:12:49.86 and people inhabited it 00:12:49.90\00:12:51.97 but it takes a long time to make soil 00:12:52.00\00:12:53.94 when you haven't got much to start with. 00:12:53.97\00:12:55.44 Yeah, that's right. 00:12:55.47\00:12:56.81 So what did they do then if the island was so small? 00:12:56.84\00:13:00.08 Well, some of them have land on the, 00:13:00.11\00:13:01.74 what they call the mainland, on, you know, Island Vangunu. 00:13:01.78\00:13:06.48 How big is the mainland? 00:13:06.51\00:13:07.85 Well, it's a reasonable size island. 00:13:07.88\00:13:11.79 But, excuse me, 00:13:11.82\00:13:14.29 but you've got to travel to do the work. 00:13:14.32\00:13:17.13 And so that just complicates the matter again. 00:13:17.16\00:13:21.13 And to get between the Telina and the mainland, 00:13:21.16\00:13:23.37 it's all by canoed. 00:13:23.40\00:13:25.37 So if you're sending a work line over there 00:13:25.40\00:13:27.57 to dig your gardens, 00:13:27.60\00:13:29.10 they've got to take their picks and shovels 00:13:29.14\00:13:30.57 and things with them 00:13:30.61\00:13:32.27 to work and bring it over back again, so. 00:13:32.31\00:13:33.81 To cross some ocean. 00:13:33.84\00:13:35.18 Well, it's not very far, but it's protected water. 00:13:35.21\00:13:38.28 So it gets a little bit choppy 00:13:38.31\00:13:39.88 when they have a really strong wind. 00:13:39.91\00:13:42.02 But generally, it's fairly calm. 00:13:42.05\00:13:43.99 But so, how did they move to Batuna? 00:13:44.02\00:13:46.32 Well, when they decided 00:13:46.35\00:13:47.69 that it wasn't going to work at Telina, 00:13:47.72\00:13:51.09 a group of 80 chiefs 00:13:51.13\00:13:52.79 and important people from around the Marovo 00:13:52.83\00:13:54.83 gathered together and as a group, 00:13:54.86\00:13:56.97 they went searching for land. 00:13:57.00\00:13:58.60 Okay. 00:13:58.63\00:13:59.97 And they went from the east to the west and the east, 00:14:00.00\00:14:04.47 the north and the south of the Marovo Lagoon 00:14:04.51\00:14:08.11 searching for land, and eventually, 00:14:08.14\00:14:11.05 they, the Babata tribe, 00:14:11.08\00:14:13.52 thought about a piece of land that they owned. 00:14:13.55\00:14:16.42 Somehow, they owned a piece of land somewhere else 00:14:16.45\00:14:18.49 not on the Marovo Island itself. 00:14:18.52\00:14:21.32 And they talked about that 00:14:21.36\00:14:22.69 and the decision of the group was, 00:14:22.72\00:14:25.09 well, let's go and have a look. 00:14:25.13\00:14:27.06 And they went and had a look and the rest is history. 00:14:27.10\00:14:29.66 That's where they went to. 00:14:29.70\00:14:31.47 There's enough land there. There was enough land. 00:14:31.50\00:14:33.44 It's not real good land, mind you 00:14:33.47\00:14:35.07 because it's still rocky and coraly 00:14:35.10\00:14:37.51 but at least 00:14:37.54\00:14:39.07 there's some water coming off the hills, 00:14:39.11\00:14:42.61 that washed some soil down onto it 00:14:42.64\00:14:44.65 and it with a bit of effort, 00:14:44.68\00:14:46.72 they made gardens, 00:14:46.75\00:14:48.35 but now that's what for best part of 100 years ago, 00:14:48.38\00:14:54.46 1924 I think they establishes that school 00:14:54.49\00:14:57.39 so it's getting close nearly 100 years. 00:14:57.43\00:15:01.36 And they work in the same soil all the time it gets tired. 00:15:01.40\00:15:03.80 Yes. 00:15:03.83\00:15:05.17 So gardening there is becoming a problem. 00:15:05.20\00:15:09.67 So there is also an issue. 00:15:09.70\00:15:11.47 There's also a current issue there 00:15:11.51\00:15:13.07 with the tide soil. 00:15:13.11\00:15:16.61 One of the staff members at Batuna comes from, 00:15:16.64\00:15:20.48 that he did work previous 00:15:20.52\00:15:21.85 or the family worked previously west of Batuna 00:15:21.88\00:15:24.75 up in the western Solomon Islands 00:15:24.79\00:15:26.49 on at Kukundu on the island of Kolombangara. 00:15:26.52\00:15:30.16 And Kolombangara is a volcano, 00:15:30.19\00:15:32.99 an extinct volcano and the soil there 00:15:33.03\00:15:35.76 is volcanic soil and you can grow anything good. 00:15:35.80\00:15:37.13 No. 00:15:37.17\00:15:38.50 So can they, can they move some soil across? 00:15:38.53\00:15:41.80 Yes, it takes the best part of a day 00:15:41.84\00:15:45.17 to travel by boat between the two sites. 00:15:45.21\00:15:48.48 So it's a long way to hold 00:15:48.51\00:15:49.88 a wheelbarrow load of gravel soil. 00:15:49.91\00:15:52.98 That's where I've heard the term organic volcanic. 00:15:53.01\00:15:56.35 Okay. 00:15:56.38\00:15:57.72 That was from Dr. Mark Turnbull in Vanuatu. 00:15:57.75\00:16:00.49 In Vanuatu, he's out there. 00:16:00.52\00:16:02.49 Lot of volcanic activity involved in Vanuatu. 00:16:02.52\00:16:07.53 They have good soil where he is. 00:16:07.56\00:16:09.16 And you know, I just want to ask Ron, 00:16:09.20\00:16:11.00 Ron, you've been out there how many times to Batuna? 00:16:11.03\00:16:14.40 I've been out there 24 times, 00:16:14.44\00:16:16.27 Glynn has probably nearly as many. 00:16:16.30\00:16:17.91 Twenty four times and you said earlier on that 00:16:17.94\00:16:20.78 you're heading out there very shortly. 00:16:20.81\00:16:22.14 Is that right? 00:16:22.18\00:16:23.51 Twenty first of this month, we'll return, yeah. 00:16:23.55\00:16:26.21 So there's a bit of you out there in Batuna 00:16:26.25\00:16:28.45 and you keep going back there, is that right? 00:16:28.48\00:16:31.35 Oh, it looks like he's got still all of his fingers. 00:16:31.39\00:16:33.62 Yeah. Yeah. 00:16:33.66\00:16:35.72 Haven't left any behind? 00:16:35.76\00:16:37.13 No, not yet. 00:16:37.16\00:16:38.49 Unless there's perspiration. 00:16:38.53\00:16:39.86 But he's got a bit of heart there. 00:16:39.89\00:16:41.23 Perspiration? Yeah. 00:16:41.26\00:16:42.60 Bit of a perspiration. 00:16:42.63\00:16:44.23 Because you mentioned in the program 00:16:44.27\00:16:45.93 the climate there is quite something. 00:16:45.97\00:16:48.20 Yeah, yeah. 00:16:48.24\00:16:49.57 And it takes a special type of person, 00:16:49.60\00:16:52.74 I was thinking of all those that went to work there. 00:16:52.77\00:16:55.41 How the climate is so humid and difficult and hot. 00:16:55.44\00:17:01.52 How you survived, 00:17:01.55\00:17:03.05 you know, do you get used to it 00:17:03.08\00:17:04.42 after a while, Ron? 00:17:04.45\00:17:05.79 I don't think you ever would. 00:17:05.82\00:17:07.16 You don't know. 00:17:07.19\00:17:08.52 I used to go for a six week stint. 00:17:08.56\00:17:10.63 I would lose six kilos. 00:17:10.66\00:17:12.76 Now I only go for three weeks stint. 00:17:12.79\00:17:14.96 So you only lose three kilos. 00:17:15.00\00:17:17.33 At nighttime you sleep under mosquito net. 00:17:17.37\00:17:20.14 If there is a gentle breeze 00:17:20.17\00:17:21.84 coming through the trees they have, 00:17:21.87\00:17:24.07 you're under mosquito nets so you don't, 00:17:24.11\00:17:26.01 you don't benefit from the breeze very much. 00:17:26.04\00:17:29.31 And out there their first bell is at 5:30 in the morning, 00:17:29.34\00:17:34.22 which is when you probably just slumbered off. 00:17:34.25\00:17:39.82 Yes. 00:17:39.85\00:17:41.59 You just think it's getting cool a little bit, 00:17:41.62\00:17:43.12 I can go to sleep. 00:17:43.16\00:17:44.49 Yeah, they ring the first bell at 5:30, 00:17:44.53\00:17:47.50 then 6 o'clock, then 6:30. 00:17:47.53\00:17:50.00 I remember when we were in Cambodia, 00:17:50.03\00:17:51.90 our first night there lying under a mosquito net 00:17:51.93\00:17:54.60 in a partly finished building. 00:17:54.64\00:17:56.91 We'd taken a group there to finish these two buildings 00:17:56.94\00:18:00.08 for an orphanage and it was so hot and humid, 00:18:00.11\00:18:03.45 I thought I was going to die of heat. 00:18:03.48\00:18:06.25 And then about 4 o'clock in the morning 00:18:06.28\00:18:08.45 a thunderstorm came rolling through so fast, 00:18:08.48\00:18:13.36 the winds swiped up 00:18:13.39\00:18:14.72 and every, all the iron beds were there to be painted 00:18:14.76\00:18:17.63 all fell down like dominoes straight outside our window. 00:18:17.66\00:18:20.76 There was no glass in the window 00:18:20.80\00:18:22.13 so it was very loud and everybody woke up, 00:18:22.16\00:18:24.63 but it cooled down. 00:18:24.67\00:18:26.00 It cooled and dropped the temperature. 00:18:26.03\00:18:27.37 Yeah. 00:18:27.40\00:18:28.74 Yeah, it was so hot under that mosquito net. 00:18:28.77\00:18:30.91 I was stifling. 00:18:30.94\00:18:32.27 We shipped there 00:18:32.31\00:18:33.64 so it was some small refrigerators 00:18:33.68\00:18:36.34 because you just gonna have some cold water, tap water. 00:18:36.38\00:18:41.92 It can be quite warm 00:18:41.95\00:18:43.28 by the time it comes through the pipes out. 00:18:43.32\00:18:45.29 Having a fridge say, 00:18:45.32\00:18:46.65 you can at least have some cool water. 00:18:46.69\00:18:49.46 So, Glynn, they chose that land. 00:18:49.49\00:18:52.23 What did they immediately do? 00:18:52.26\00:18:55.23 Well, it took a while. 00:18:55.26\00:18:57.63 But once they had settled the ownership of the land, 00:18:57.67\00:19:00.64 the land was leased from the Babata tribe, 00:19:00.67\00:19:02.47 they had, I think was a 70 year lease 00:19:02.50\00:19:04.87 to start with. 00:19:04.91\00:19:06.61 They set about turning bush into a school. 00:19:06.64\00:19:09.71 So the place had to be cleared. 00:19:09.74\00:19:11.75 So lots of swinging of axes and swinging of knives 00:19:11.78\00:19:14.95 to cut grass and clear the land. 00:19:14.98\00:19:18.62 And once they had space cleared, they started building. 00:19:18.65\00:19:22.52 And they started building at about 19, in about 1924. 00:19:22.56\00:19:27.40 Previously there had been a school 00:19:27.43\00:19:28.76 at Sasaghana 00:19:28.80\00:19:30.13 where the church started education, 00:19:30.17\00:19:33.37 educating in the Marovo Lagoon. 00:19:33.40\00:19:36.74 And while that was happening, 00:19:36.77\00:19:39.17 and they found this plot of land, 00:19:39.21\00:19:40.88 they started to develop. 00:19:40.91\00:19:42.84 In 1924 they started to develop Batuna. 00:19:42.88\00:19:46.11 In 1926 they actually moved the school 00:19:46.15\00:19:49.78 from Sasaghana to Batuna and started teaching at Batuna. 00:19:49.82\00:19:54.22 So it would have been a boarding school? 00:19:54.26\00:19:56.32 It, yes, it was probably both, 00:19:56.36\00:19:58.83 but certainly 00:19:58.86\00:20:00.20 there was a lot of students boarding there. 00:20:00.23\00:20:02.83 I think their first intake of students at Batuna 00:20:02.86\00:20:05.27 was somewhere around 70 students. 00:20:05.30\00:20:08.70 And then it grew from there. 00:20:08.74\00:20:11.41 So there had to be a place to accommodate people 00:20:11.44\00:20:13.44 who came from a long way. 00:20:13.48\00:20:14.81 And initially they came from a long walk, 00:20:14.84\00:20:17.78 all over the Solomon Islands except for Malaita. 00:20:17.81\00:20:21.82 And there's two Polynesian islands 00:20:21.85\00:20:23.49 down to the south of Guadalcanal. 00:20:23.52\00:20:25.55 And they didn't turn up until about 1930s. 00:20:25.59\00:20:29.22 I think they started coming to Batuna, 00:20:29.26\00:20:31.36 they were 12 students from Malaita, 00:20:31.39\00:20:34.23 sorry, from Rennell and Bellona who came, 00:20:34.26\00:20:37.07 and they only stayed for six months. 00:20:37.10\00:20:38.97 And then they went home and another contingent came. 00:20:39.00\00:20:41.64 So in that six month period, they tried to learn to read. 00:20:41.67\00:20:45.87 So when they went back to their islands, 00:20:45.91\00:20:48.54 they could take a Bible and read and conduct worships 00:20:48.58\00:20:53.01 and things like that. 00:20:53.05\00:20:54.38 Only six months to learn to read. 00:20:54.42\00:20:56.48 Yes. That's a big ask. 00:20:56.52\00:20:58.15 After the war, 00:20:58.19\00:21:00.06 our family was posted to Tikopia 00:21:00.09\00:21:02.39 which is right down the end of Guadalcanal 00:21:02.42\00:21:04.46 were previously prewar Norman Ferris 00:21:04.49\00:21:06.59 had been there. 00:21:06.63\00:21:08.46 And within the first six months of being there, 00:21:08.50\00:21:11.07 some people from Rennell and Bellona 00:21:11.10\00:21:13.54 rode their canoes for three days 00:21:13.57\00:21:16.30 across open water to get to Tikopia 00:21:16.34\00:21:19.41 to ask for a missionary to come. 00:21:19.44\00:21:22.78 And they had brought with them Bibles, 00:21:22.81\00:21:24.38 and they could read. 00:21:24.41\00:21:27.12 They had learnt to read in the period 00:21:27.15\00:21:29.48 between those first half a dozen or so 00:21:29.52\00:21:32.29 Rennell and Bellona boys coming to Batuna, 00:21:32.32\00:21:35.69 going back home 00:21:35.72\00:21:37.06 and starting to teach their people how to read. 00:21:37.09\00:21:40.56 And it was English. Yeah. 00:21:40.60\00:21:42.73 They were reading English, 00:21:42.76\00:21:44.10 they weren't reading in their native language, 00:21:44.13\00:21:45.57 they were reading English. 00:21:45.60\00:21:46.94 So not only had they learned to read, 00:21:46.97\00:21:48.30 but they had learned how to explain 00:21:48.34\00:21:50.24 so they could teach the people back in the villages 00:21:50.27\00:21:52.14 what was going on. 00:21:52.17\00:21:53.51 The three days in an open boat? 00:21:53.54\00:21:56.38 An open canoe. 00:21:56.41\00:21:57.75 Across open water? Across open water. 00:21:57.78\00:21:59.25 It amazed that they could actually navigate 00:21:59.28\00:22:02.05 and get to where they wanted to go. 00:22:02.08\00:22:03.52 Well, the Polynesians who migrated extensively 00:22:03.55\00:22:06.42 around the Pacific were very good at navigating. 00:22:06.45\00:22:10.33 They were experts at it. 00:22:10.36\00:22:13.03 So it was no task as to find their way. 00:22:13.06\00:22:15.93 But there's the water. 00:22:15.96\00:22:19.03 The ocean between Rennell and Bellona and Tikopia 00:22:19.07\00:22:22.70 on Guadalcanal could get very rough. 00:22:22.74\00:22:25.91 Very rough. 00:22:25.94\00:22:27.28 It's amazing what they can do. Yes. 00:22:27.31\00:22:29.14 Let's go, there was a lot of other work 00:22:29.18\00:22:31.81 going on there at Batuna, there was a sawmill. 00:22:31.85\00:22:35.98 They had to build homes for staff, a church, 00:22:36.02\00:22:42.36 different things like that and the garden. 00:22:42.39\00:22:44.26 And the schools. 00:22:44.29\00:22:45.79 Yeah. 00:22:45.83\00:22:47.16 So there was a lot of work that went on there, 00:22:47.20\00:22:48.53 which is amazing. 00:22:48.56\00:22:49.90 Yeah, absolutely. And they had people. 00:22:49.93\00:22:51.43 They had good wood. 00:22:51.47\00:22:52.90 They did have good timber to do a lot of the building. 00:22:52.93\00:22:55.00 But there were people 00:22:55.04\00:22:56.37 who gathered not just students 00:22:56.40\00:22:59.17 who were studying at Batuna 00:22:59.21\00:23:00.68 but people from the communities, 00:23:00.71\00:23:03.41 sent people to Batuna to help with the development 00:23:03.45\00:23:07.25 of the property, 00:23:07.28\00:23:08.68 felling the timber, clearing the land, 00:23:08.72\00:23:10.52 digging and establishing gardens, 00:23:10.55\00:23:12.65 preparing for students to start 00:23:12.69\00:23:14.59 and the first compliment was in about 1976. 00:23:14.62\00:23:16.59 So it became a kind of a big center 00:23:16.62\00:23:18.63 for the Adventists work in that part of the world 00:23:18.66\00:23:21.26 in the South Pacific, didn't it? 00:23:21.30\00:23:23.26 You're exactly right, John. 00:23:23.30\00:23:25.03 Yeah. It was the center. 00:23:25.07\00:23:28.10 And a lot of things that went on at Batuna 00:23:28.14\00:23:30.61 had a massive influence 00:23:30.64\00:23:31.97 over the development of the church 00:23:32.01\00:23:33.34 and the rest of the country. 00:23:33.38\00:23:35.08 To what you did all that work moved to Honiara? 00:23:35.11\00:23:38.25 I pressed for. 00:23:38.28\00:23:39.85 So at 47 I think by the time ran 45, 00:23:39.88\00:23:43.02 between 45 and 47, 00:23:43.05\00:23:45.09 the headquarters of the church had moved on to Honiara. 00:23:45.12\00:23:49.56 The school was 00:23:49.59\00:23:52.66 but there was still a school 00:23:52.69\00:23:54.03 and there remained the school at Batuna to this day, 00:23:54.06\00:23:56.06 but the main school went down to Honiara 00:23:56.10\00:23:58.87 to a place called Betikama. 00:23:58.90\00:24:00.80 And the press that we'll talk about shortly 00:24:00.84\00:24:02.77 that was based at Batuna 00:24:02.80\00:24:06.44 was also transferred down to Betikama and it work, 00:24:06.47\00:24:10.18 it printed the present 00:24:10.21\00:24:12.78 Betikama survived for quite a number of years 00:24:12.81\00:24:14.32 after the war. 00:24:14.35\00:24:15.68 Okay, so take us through the press? 00:24:15.72\00:24:17.52 Take us on the works that they did there? 00:24:17.55\00:24:19.69 The press was started very early 00:24:19.72\00:24:22.12 in the history of Batuna. 00:24:22.16\00:24:23.49 Back in 1926, the press was almost operating. 00:24:23.53\00:24:27.96 And one of the first buildings that was built was the press 00:24:28.00\00:24:32.27 and on the screen you'll see a building 00:24:32.30\00:24:35.17 on the left hand side, 00:24:35.20\00:24:36.54 that was the original press building 00:24:36.57\00:24:37.91 and the other two pictures show some of the activity inside, 00:24:37.94\00:24:41.41 everything from setting the type 00:24:41.44\00:24:44.48 with a guillotine to cut this pipe 00:24:44.51\00:24:46.25 just pipe it to size to be printed. 00:24:46.28\00:24:48.88 The colliding, 00:24:48.92\00:24:50.35 putting all the pages together till it was in sequence, 00:24:50.39\00:24:53.36 stapling, sewing, sort of they made them 00:24:53.39\00:24:56.93 into little books or booklets 00:24:56.96\00:24:58.73 and it was all happened there in that room. 00:24:58.76\00:25:02.13 But these are people who came from a non-written language. 00:25:02.16\00:25:06.87 Yes. 00:25:06.90\00:25:08.24 And now in a very short time they are producing in English 00:25:08.27\00:25:13.98 or in their language, did they? 00:25:14.01\00:25:15.34 Both. Yeah, they did both. 00:25:15.38\00:25:16.71 So they, they actually 00:25:16.75\00:25:18.08 someone had to write their language. 00:25:18.11\00:25:19.75 Someone had to give them an alphabet 00:25:19.78\00:25:21.32 and make up how to write each word. 00:25:21.35\00:25:24.89 Yes. 00:25:24.92\00:25:26.25 Fortunately, Melanesian languages 00:25:26.29\00:25:29.09 and I suppose Polynesian are the same, 00:25:29.12\00:25:31.29 but Melanesian language, 00:25:31.33\00:25:35.33 the way you say the word is the way you write. 00:25:35.36\00:25:37.07 They're very phonetic. It's phonetic. 00:25:37.10\00:25:39.67 Yeah, so if you say, cat, you'll write ca-at. 00:25:39.70\00:25:46.68 Yeah. It's very phonetic. 00:25:46.71\00:25:49.11 So they, these people though had in that time, 00:25:49.14\00:25:52.31 they had produced a written language. 00:25:52.35\00:25:55.42 They had been learning English. 00:25:55.45\00:25:57.92 And now they could print in English 00:25:57.95\00:25:59.59 and in their language? 00:25:59.62\00:26:01.56 And how many languages are there? 00:26:01.59\00:26:03.66 Oh, fortunately, 00:26:03.69\00:26:05.59 where the Batuna is established 00:26:05.63\00:26:07.50 in the Marovo Lagoon, you can go from Nggatokae, 00:26:07.53\00:26:10.57 which is on the eastern end of the lagoon, 00:26:10.60\00:26:13.03 all the way through to Seghe 00:26:13.07\00:26:15.37 and out around part of the Roviana Lagoon 00:26:15.40\00:26:19.87 around towards Munda and then up the other side, 00:26:19.91\00:26:23.51 through Ramata and almost to Kukundu 00:26:23.55\00:26:25.61 they speak the same language. 00:26:25.65\00:26:27.58 Couple of little inflect differences, 00:26:27.62\00:26:29.52 inflection and dialect. 00:26:29.55\00:26:31.22 But you can move extensively through the Marovo 00:26:31.25\00:26:33.36 and you can talk Marovo, 00:26:33.39\00:26:34.72 and people will understand what you're saying, 00:26:34.76\00:26:36.09 and you can understand what they're saying. 00:26:36.12\00:26:38.03 So how big was Batuna? 00:26:38.06\00:26:41.06 Do you have any record? 00:26:41.10\00:26:42.43 Well, if you walk 00:26:42.46\00:26:44.60 from the transit house 00:26:44.63\00:26:49.34 where the volunteers stay 00:26:49.37\00:26:51.21 through the school to the airport, 00:26:51.24\00:26:53.78 there's a disused airport there. 00:26:53.81\00:26:56.24 If you walk that distance, 00:26:56.28\00:26:57.68 you can get there in 15, 20 minutes, 00:26:57.71\00:27:01.48 just not very extensive then up to go up the hill 00:27:01.52\00:27:04.12 to when they have a lot of the gardens 00:27:04.15\00:27:06.05 up on the hill. 00:27:06.09\00:27:07.46 So it's not a very big property 00:27:07.49\00:27:09.49 and I don't know how many acres it is, 00:27:09.52\00:27:11.36 but it's not, it's not all that big. 00:27:11.39\00:27:14.16 It's not thousands of acres. 00:27:14.20\00:27:16.50 Yeah. 00:27:16.53\00:27:17.87 So in the work in the press, 00:27:17.90\00:27:23.30 there was a specific person 00:27:23.34\00:27:25.37 that we're going to talk about who was phenomenal 00:27:25.41\00:27:29.18 that obviously had an extremely active mind, 00:27:29.21\00:27:34.05 very, very intelligent, 00:27:34.08\00:27:37.42 and was able to do this work in local, a national person. 00:27:37.45\00:27:41.82 Tell us about Peo or Peo? 00:27:41.86\00:27:44.46 Peo. 00:27:44.49\00:27:47.06 You know, some of our viewers, 00:27:47.10\00:27:48.43 particularly if they're our vintage 00:27:48.46\00:27:51.00 and Seventh-day Adventists, 00:27:51.03\00:27:52.37 you they will know the name Kata Rangoso. 00:27:52.40\00:27:56.67 Back when we were children 00:27:56.71\00:27:59.77 he was often spoken about 00:27:59.81\00:28:01.38 when people went off to camp meetings. 00:28:01.41\00:28:04.28 He visited Australia multiple times. 00:28:04.31\00:28:06.05 He even went to the general conference 00:28:06.08\00:28:08.45 for general conference session. 00:28:08.48\00:28:10.95 Kata Rangoso was a leading light 00:28:10.99\00:28:13.86 in the church. 00:28:13.89\00:28:15.26 And he would, he had supervision 00:28:15.29\00:28:17.63 of the church 00:28:17.66\00:28:18.99 while the war was happening in the Solomon Islands. 00:28:19.03\00:28:23.50 So he was very capable person 00:28:23.53\00:28:26.23 and looked after the whole from the work 00:28:26.27\00:28:29.00 in the Solomons from Guadalcanal, Malaita, 00:28:29.04\00:28:31.67 all the way through to Kolombangara 00:28:31.71\00:28:34.81 and further west to Davoli 00:28:34.84\00:28:36.44 and up to the north where Choiseul is. 00:28:36.48\00:28:38.35 He had supervision of the whole country 00:28:38.38\00:28:41.18 while the war was happening. 00:28:41.22\00:28:44.89 He had an older brother 00:28:44.92\00:28:47.46 who was the firstborn son of Chief Tatugu, 00:28:47.49\00:28:51.19 who invited the church into the Solomons 00:28:51.23\00:28:54.63 and he probably was not in that 80 group, 00:28:54.66\00:28:59.10 the group of 80 who went looking for property 00:28:59.13\00:29:02.24 because he died in about 1928 I think it was. 00:29:02.27\00:29:07.98 And his firstborn son 00:29:08.01\00:29:10.05 became chief of the Marovo people 00:29:10.08\00:29:14.75 and his name was Peo. 00:29:14.78\00:29:16.38 Okay. 00:29:16.42\00:29:17.75 Yeah, one of the big reasons for the church 00:29:17.79\00:29:20.62 to the Seventh-day Adventist Church 00:29:20.66\00:29:21.99 to get into the Marovo 00:29:22.02\00:29:23.36 was so that chief Tatugu's boys 00:29:23.39\00:29:26.86 could learn to speak and read English. 00:29:26.90\00:29:30.23 That was the catalyst. 00:29:30.27\00:29:32.20 When Jones went with Barley, 00:29:32.23\00:29:35.90 rather went to talk to Chief Tatugu, 00:29:35.94\00:29:38.04 Chief Tatugu wanted his boys 00:29:38.07\00:29:41.34 and by extension his people 00:29:41.38\00:29:43.38 to be able to read and speak English. 00:29:43.41\00:29:47.68 And the byproduct of that, of course, is that 00:29:47.72\00:29:49.88 and the reference text for reading was the Bible. 00:29:49.92\00:29:54.62 Yes, so they learnt the gospel. 00:29:54.66\00:29:56.02 So they learnt to read 00:29:56.06\00:29:58.36 and they learn to speak English 00:29:58.39\00:30:01.00 with a flyover of King James English. 00:30:01.03\00:30:03.37 Okay. 00:30:03.40\00:30:04.73 It was that, that was the text that they used. 00:30:04.77\00:30:08.87 And then I had, of course, 00:30:13.21\00:30:14.84 expatriates to run the school in the early days. 00:30:14.88\00:30:18.91 And they were English speakers. 00:30:18.95\00:30:20.72 So they got the more modern English 00:30:20.75\00:30:24.19 as well as the King James English. 00:30:24.22\00:30:28.76 And it was that language 00:30:28.79\00:30:30.73 that they used through the schools 00:30:30.76\00:30:32.79 right through the Solomon's prewar 00:30:32.83\00:30:34.16 and post war, 00:30:34.20\00:30:35.53 where my wife and I were there at Betikama, 00:30:35.56\00:30:38.03 1968 or 71, I think it was. 00:30:38.07\00:30:41.50 And we did everything in English. 00:30:41.54\00:30:44.84 So the students who came 00:30:44.87\00:30:46.21 had had primary school in English 00:30:46.24\00:30:49.14 that now that were in secondary school in English. 00:30:49.18\00:30:52.11 And when they finished secondary school off, 00:30:52.15\00:30:53.72 they went to college or university, 00:30:53.75\00:30:55.98 and the language was English. 00:30:56.02\00:30:57.85 So English was, 00:30:57.89\00:30:59.22 was the language that was used throughout 00:30:59.25\00:31:02.32 not just with the Seventh-day Adventist Church, 00:31:02.36\00:31:04.49 but through the government. 00:31:04.53\00:31:05.86 All the education. 00:31:05.89\00:31:07.23 And all the education was in English. 00:31:07.26\00:31:09.03 It's a very different ballgame today. 00:31:09.06\00:31:11.33 But in those days, it was English. 00:31:11.37\00:31:13.50 And so people like Rangoso and his older brother Peo 00:31:13.54\00:31:18.71 when they went to school, even at grade one, 00:31:18.74\00:31:22.38 they were learning in English. 00:31:22.41\00:31:24.95 But how old were they when they went to grade one? 00:31:24.98\00:31:26.98 Well, when they went to grade one, 00:31:27.02\00:31:28.35 they were probably around 17, 16, 17, maybe 18. 00:31:28.38\00:31:34.09 So it wasn't education at age five and a half 00:31:34.12\00:31:36.56 or age six or seven. 00:31:36.59\00:31:38.49 It was those ages plus 10 years. 00:31:38.53\00:31:41.20 Yeah. 00:31:41.23\00:31:42.60 So you mentioned it's not the same ballgame now. 00:31:42.63\00:31:45.50 What do you mean by that in terms of? 00:31:45.53\00:31:47.60 Well in, in the Solomons, 00:31:47.64\00:31:50.91 or in Papua New Guinea, or in Vanuatu, 00:31:50.94\00:31:53.68 they usually start school now at about age seven, 00:31:53.71\00:31:56.41 similar to what we do. 00:31:56.44\00:31:57.78 Okay. 00:31:57.81\00:31:59.15 But in those early days, 00:31:59.18\00:32:00.52 it was that 17, 18, 19 year olds and even older. 00:32:00.55\00:32:03.82 But to what languages are they learning these days? 00:32:03.85\00:32:06.86 Is it basically English or are they using 00:32:06.89\00:32:09.12 their local languages? 00:32:09.16\00:32:10.69 They use two languages. 00:32:10.73\00:32:12.86 There's English, of course. 00:32:12.89\00:32:14.23 And then there's the lingua franca, 00:32:14.26\00:32:16.77 commonly used throughout the nation 00:32:16.80\00:32:18.60 is pidgin English. 00:32:18.63\00:32:19.97 Okay. 00:32:20.00\00:32:21.34 So some of the early education is done in pidgin English, 00:32:21.37\00:32:24.01 or most of it is, 00:32:24.04\00:32:25.37 but they learn English as a subject, 00:32:25.41\00:32:27.68 not as the, 00:32:27.71\00:32:29.04 as in quite lingua franca of education. 00:32:29.08\00:32:31.01 Yeah. 00:32:31.05\00:32:32.38 When did you first go out there, Ron? 00:32:32.41\00:32:34.45 Do you remember what year or longer was that? 00:32:34.48\00:32:37.89 Oh, boy. 00:32:37.92\00:32:39.25 A long time. 00:32:39.29\00:32:40.62 We're in '19 now. 00:32:40.66\00:32:41.99 The clinic was opened about in '16. 00:32:42.02\00:32:43.63 Yeah. 00:32:43.66\00:32:44.99 And was 2008 00:32:45.03\00:32:46.90 I think it was when we started, maybe 2007, late '07. 00:32:46.93\00:32:50.17 Yeah. 00:32:50.20\00:32:51.63 So when I think of the language, 00:32:51.67\00:32:53.97 have you learned to speak the pidgin English? 00:32:54.00\00:32:57.17 What? What's that? 00:32:57.21\00:32:58.54 What's that Marovo word for good morning? 00:32:58.57\00:33:00.24 Memorana. 00:33:00.28\00:33:01.61 To me it sounds like memorandum. 00:33:01.64\00:33:05.18 I just say good morning. 00:33:05.21\00:33:07.25 But you're a blessing to the people out there 00:33:07.28\00:33:09.05 what you're doing, isn't it? 00:33:09.08\00:33:10.42 You know, that's, that's something 00:33:10.45\00:33:11.82 that doesn't matter how old you are, 00:33:11.85\00:33:14.39 you know, you can do something and continue to do something 00:33:14.42\00:33:17.39 to help other people. 00:33:17.43\00:33:18.76 That's a principle that Christians have, 00:33:18.79\00:33:21.26 you know, it's not about me or myself. 00:33:21.30\00:33:24.63 But it's about helping other people. 00:33:24.67\00:33:27.04 And you know, I think of the early missionaries, 00:33:27.07\00:33:30.71 if you'd like to call them that, 00:33:30.74\00:33:32.31 the people that gave of themselves 00:33:32.34\00:33:34.24 to go out there and made themselves available. 00:33:34.28\00:33:37.21 That work continued 00:33:37.25\00:33:38.58 and we're still seeing the results of that today, 00:33:38.61\00:33:40.25 aren't we, Glynn? 00:33:40.28\00:33:41.62 Yes. The work is still progressing. 00:33:41.65\00:33:44.25 Yeah. 00:33:44.29\00:33:45.62 I'd like to look at a couple of pictures of Peo. 00:33:45.65\00:33:48.32 Yes. 00:33:48.36\00:33:50.66 A strapping young man 00:33:50.69\00:33:52.76 in the big photo there with the family. 00:33:52.79\00:33:55.86 He's the tallest one up the back, isn't he? 00:33:55.90\00:33:58.63 And the big one, 00:33:58.67\00:34:00.00 the big picture on the right is Peo. 00:34:00.04\00:34:03.54 And the other one? 00:34:03.57\00:34:04.91 The scene, the scene behind him 00:34:04.94\00:34:06.31 that lie the land behind tells me 00:34:06.34\00:34:08.91 that that picture was taken somewhere 00:34:08.94\00:34:11.35 near Batuna. 00:34:11.38\00:34:14.05 Then in the big picture 00:34:14.08\00:34:15.42 that's Peo's siblings and his mother, 00:34:15.45\00:34:18.92 the lady, the shorter lady in the middle, 00:34:18.95\00:34:22.12 in the middle row. 00:34:22.16\00:34:23.49 There's two small children in the front. 00:34:23.53\00:34:24.86 Yep. 00:34:24.89\00:34:26.23 And the one immediately behind, she's dressed in white. 00:34:26.26\00:34:30.57 That's Peo's parents, that's her mother. 00:34:30.60\00:34:33.37 Tatugu, the father was dead by now. 00:34:33.40\00:34:35.70 Okay. He was dead. 00:34:35.74\00:34:37.77 And starting from the right hand side, 00:34:37.81\00:34:41.24 the back row that's Peo. 00:34:41.28\00:34:43.28 The next one is Kata Rangoso. 00:34:43.31\00:34:46.18 And the next one I think is another brother Liligetto. 00:34:46.21\00:34:49.85 And then in the front row on the right hand side, 00:34:49.88\00:34:52.12 I think that's Jimiru. 00:34:52.15\00:34:54.52 And the little boy in the front is Joseph 00:34:54.56\00:34:57.93 and the older girl is the, older sister Dioni. 00:34:57.96\00:35:03.37 And I'm not sure who the little girl is. 00:35:03.40\00:35:06.63 But Peo is, was fairly tall bit like his dad. 00:35:06.67\00:35:12.74 But his mother being so short he wasn't as tall as his dad, 00:35:12.77\00:35:15.38 he's from what I learned is that 00:35:15.41\00:35:17.71 his father Tatugu was really a big man, 00:35:17.75\00:35:20.42 which is unusual in the Melanesian people. 00:35:20.45\00:35:23.42 But that was, that was his mother's baptism? 00:35:23.45\00:35:25.85 That I think was his mother's baptism. 00:35:25.89\00:35:27.52 And the conclusion is based 00:35:27.56\00:35:29.19 on the sort of dress she was wearing. 00:35:29.22\00:35:31.29 Yes. Yeah. 00:35:31.33\00:35:32.66 Then Tatugu never became a Christian. 00:35:32.69\00:35:36.46 He was supportive of the work, 00:35:36.50\00:35:38.70 he enjoyed a Christian fellowship, 00:35:38.73\00:35:41.67 but he never became a Christian formally. 00:35:41.70\00:35:44.54 He was never baptized into the Christian faith. 00:35:44.57\00:35:47.91 But interesting when he died, 00:35:47.94\00:35:50.31 he requested that he be buried in the Christian way. 00:35:50.35\00:35:55.52 So you can go to a little island 00:35:55.55\00:35:57.32 not far from his village of Chea 00:35:57.35\00:36:00.26 on the island of Marovo, 00:36:00.29\00:36:01.86 and his grave is there and beside him is his, 00:36:01.89\00:36:05.59 excuse me, his wife's grave, 00:36:05.63\00:36:07.63 and just looking at the size of the grave 00:36:07.66\00:36:09.76 can tell you that he was a big man. 00:36:09.80\00:36:12.70 Really big man. 00:36:12.73\00:36:14.47 There's another picture of Peo at work, um, doing. 00:36:14.50\00:36:20.28 He was doing translating? 00:36:20.31\00:36:23.08 We'll start from the top left-hand corner. 00:36:23.11\00:36:26.08 In that picture, Peo is on the left. 00:36:26.11\00:36:28.52 Yes. 00:36:28.55\00:36:29.88 And he's busy writing. 00:36:29.92\00:36:32.39 The expatriate next around with a tie on, 00:36:32.42\00:36:38.19 with a white shirt and a tie on, 00:36:38.23\00:36:39.56 and it amazes me that those early missionaries 00:36:39.59\00:36:42.73 dressed that way. 00:36:42.76\00:36:44.10 In that hot climate. In that hot climate. 00:36:44.13\00:36:45.53 And I think 00:36:45.57\00:36:47.50 due to what's happened with the climate these days, 00:36:47.54\00:36:49.54 it wasn't as hot. 00:36:49.57\00:36:50.97 Even the locals out there 00:36:51.01\00:36:52.34 and they are complaining that it's hot. 00:36:52.37\00:36:54.91 That's Pastor H.B.P. Wicks. 00:36:54.94\00:36:58.71 Behind him with the typewriter is another person, 00:36:58.75\00:37:04.89 but he comes from a different island. 00:37:04.92\00:37:06.72 I wanted to say Reni, but it's not Reni. 00:37:10.26\00:37:13.13 And the other person on the right-hand side 00:37:13.16\00:37:15.46 is Kata Rangoso. 00:37:15.50\00:37:17.00 And they are sitting around all sitting around the table. 00:37:17.03\00:37:20.00 And they are busy translating 00:37:20.04\00:37:21.94 and preparing documents ready for the press. 00:37:21.97\00:37:25.37 So the chap is on the typewriter 00:37:25.41\00:37:27.31 is typing it up as they translate, 00:37:27.34\00:37:29.51 Peo is looking up the text and when he was working, 00:37:29.54\00:37:35.22 the story is that when he worked at his desk, 00:37:35.25\00:37:38.55 he had two books. 00:37:38.59\00:37:40.52 While the manuscript that he was translating... 00:37:40.56\00:37:42.62 Yes. 00:37:42.66\00:37:43.99 The Bible so that he could turn up 00:37:44.03\00:37:45.56 the text and read it. 00:37:45.59\00:37:47.13 And beside him was a dictionary. 00:37:47.16\00:37:50.03 And they would read the total resources 00:37:50.07\00:37:52.53 that he had when he was translating. 00:37:52.57\00:37:54.74 Interesting. 00:37:54.77\00:37:56.10 Interestingly in, at the Batuna school, 00:37:56.14\00:37:58.87 coming up to I think about 1934 00:37:58.91\00:38:03.38 they started teaching 00:38:03.41\00:38:05.31 at the Batuna school a subject called translating. 00:38:05.35\00:38:08.92 Because as the school grew, 00:38:08.95\00:38:10.55 and the influence of the church grew, 00:38:10.59\00:38:13.15 the local people, the missionaries 00:38:13.19\00:38:15.69 from within the Solomon Islands, 00:38:15.72\00:38:17.79 the indigenous missionaries, 00:38:17.83\00:38:19.83 they went to places like Malaita and Guadalcanal 00:38:19.86\00:38:22.90 and up to Choiseul, 00:38:22.93\00:38:24.50 where the language was not Marovo. 00:38:24.53\00:38:27.60 And they had to do two things, they had to, 00:38:27.64\00:38:30.41 one, carry the gospel. 00:38:30.44\00:38:32.61 They had to learn the local languages, 00:38:32.64\00:38:35.14 so that they could communicate effectively. 00:38:35.18\00:38:38.01 And then they had to translate 00:38:38.05\00:38:40.32 so that the people in those communities 00:38:40.35\00:38:42.28 would get the scripture portions 00:38:42.32\00:38:44.55 and the Sabbath School lesson 00:38:44.59\00:38:46.19 and the mission stories 00:38:46.22\00:38:48.26 and all those things in their own language. 00:38:48.29\00:38:50.63 And those documents were translated 00:38:50.66\00:38:53.36 and sent back to Batuna 00:38:53.40\00:38:54.73 and printed and circulated through the country. 00:38:54.76\00:38:57.20 Brilliant idea to teach kids in school how to translate. 00:38:57.23\00:39:00.50 Well, the kids were... 00:39:00.54\00:39:01.87 So that they can go on and do that. 00:39:01.90\00:39:03.44 The kids were of course, 17, 18, 19, 20. 00:39:03.47\00:39:06.21 Yeah, but to teach them to do it, 00:39:06.24\00:39:08.31 so they could then go out and do something. 00:39:08.34\00:39:11.28 But coming back to Peo... 00:39:11.31\00:39:14.05 We'd have a look at that picture again. 00:39:14.08\00:39:15.42 Do you want to? Yes, there he is. 00:39:15.45\00:39:17.95 The one underneath, 00:39:17.99\00:39:19.32 the one we were talking about earlier, 00:39:19.35\00:39:20.69 Peo is sitting at a typewriter. 00:39:20.72\00:39:22.06 And that's another subject that they taught at the school, 00:39:22.09\00:39:24.26 typing. 00:39:24.29\00:39:25.63 So when the missionaries went from Batuna 00:39:25.66\00:39:27.60 to wherever they went, 00:39:27.63\00:39:29.50 they had the skill to type 00:39:29.53\00:39:32.87 and therefore to write letters 00:39:32.90\00:39:35.17 and send them back in the appropriate languages 00:39:35.20\00:39:37.67 back to Batuna to get printed. 00:39:37.71\00:39:40.21 So Peo is typing away there. 00:39:40.24\00:39:42.34 In the middle picture is Peo again. 00:39:42.38\00:39:45.11 And in his left hand, he's got two books. 00:39:45.15\00:39:49.15 And those two books are significant. 00:39:49.18\00:39:52.29 The one underneath is his Bible. 00:39:52.32\00:39:55.82 And I would love to have seen his Bible 00:39:55.86\00:39:57.19 because I'm sure 00:39:57.23\00:39:58.56 it would have been very well used. 00:39:58.59\00:40:01.70 And the book on top is a hymn book 00:40:01.73\00:40:04.03 that was used extensively 00:40:04.07\00:40:05.53 by the Seventh-day Adventist Church 00:40:05.57\00:40:07.00 back in the 1920s through to the 30s. 00:40:07.04\00:40:10.21 Post war, we got a new hymn book. 00:40:10.24\00:40:12.87 But before then that was the hymn book. 00:40:12.91\00:40:14.94 And those two books 00:40:14.98\00:40:16.31 would have been very proud possessions 00:40:16.34\00:40:18.85 of anybody who lived in the Solomon Islands 00:40:18.88\00:40:21.28 or anywhere around the Pacific. 00:40:21.32\00:40:22.82 But that book, that song book was called Christ in Song. 00:40:22.85\00:40:26.15 And some of the viewers will remember that. 00:40:26.19\00:40:28.59 In my library, I have one, a couple of copies of it. 00:40:28.62\00:40:31.53 But that's the book that Peo used to translate 00:40:31.56\00:40:35.03 from by the Bible to translate both biblical things, 00:40:35.06\00:40:39.87 and the hymn book to translate hymns. 00:40:39.90\00:40:42.40 And there may be a picture coming up on... 00:40:42.44\00:40:46.34 What's he holding? About books. 00:40:46.37\00:40:47.94 What's he holding there in that other photo? 00:40:47.98\00:40:49.54 In the third, the fourth picture 00:40:49.58\00:40:51.05 one on the extreme right, that's Peo again, 00:40:51.08\00:40:53.55 and he has a arm full of documents, 00:40:53.58\00:40:55.95 that is the first edition of the Sabbath School lesson 00:40:55.98\00:40:59.69 in the Marovo language. 00:40:59.72\00:41:02.29 So Peo would have been 00:41:02.32\00:41:05.56 that significant person in the translation process. 00:41:05.59\00:41:09.53 He probably would have typed up some of the manuscript. 00:41:09.56\00:41:13.07 And then it was published and given 00:41:13.10\00:41:16.91 to circulate throughout the school. 00:41:16.94\00:41:19.44 I am just amazed at how they could do that 00:41:19.47\00:41:21.71 in such a short time, 00:41:21.74\00:41:23.08 not even having 00:41:23.11\00:41:24.45 in their own written language here. 00:41:24.48\00:41:25.81 When you think that the church, our church, 00:41:25.85\00:41:27.55 the Seventh-day Adventist Church arrived 00:41:27.58\00:41:29.52 in 1914. 00:41:29.55\00:41:31.59 And the publishing of those lesson quarterlies 00:41:31.62\00:41:33.82 was happening by 1928. 00:41:33.86\00:41:35.62 That's only 14 years later. 00:41:35.66\00:41:37.83 And in those years, 00:41:37.86\00:41:39.83 the schools that Sasaghana and Telina and Batuna 00:41:39.86\00:41:44.30 had been established, 00:41:44.33\00:41:46.00 the press had been installed in about I think it was 1926. 00:41:46.03\00:41:53.01 And a couple of years later, there were, there was a... 00:41:53.04\00:41:56.18 There's a product. There's a publication. 00:41:56.21\00:41:57.55 Yeah. 00:41:57.58\00:41:58.91 And Peo had been in through the whole process. 00:41:58.95\00:42:01.98 He'd been to school 00:42:02.02\00:42:03.35 for probably no more than three years, 00:42:03.39\00:42:05.55 up to grade three. 00:42:05.59\00:42:07.16 Now he was translating into English. 00:42:07.19\00:42:10.33 And then he was, 00:42:10.36\00:42:11.76 had this wonderful resource of the Sabbath School lessons 00:42:11.79\00:42:14.86 ready to circulate through the Solomon Islands, 00:42:14.90\00:42:17.67 particularly for the Marovo speaking people. 00:42:17.70\00:42:20.14 Now, Peo, 00:42:20.17\00:42:21.50 if you had something to say, Ron? 00:42:21.54\00:42:23.27 I'd like to get back to the tie. 00:42:23.30\00:42:26.01 If you're out there now, 00:42:26.04\00:42:27.38 and you're invited to go to a community 00:42:27.41\00:42:28.88 and laid out in Sabbath services, 00:42:28.91\00:42:31.48 and you turn up like Glynn and I with a round neck shirt, 00:42:31.51\00:42:34.85 the deacon will kindly say away, 00:42:34.88\00:42:36.58 there's some ties hanging up. 00:42:36.62\00:42:38.29 And you're given the option. 00:42:38.32\00:42:39.65 Do you want to wear a tie or not? 00:42:39.69\00:42:41.02 You don't have to. 00:42:41.06\00:42:42.39 But they've got quite a few ties hanging up. 00:42:42.42\00:42:43.76 They would prefer you to. 00:42:43.79\00:42:45.13 They prefer you to wear a tie. 00:42:45.16\00:42:48.63 Well, you know what, that shows some respect. 00:42:48.66\00:42:51.73 Yeah. 00:42:51.77\00:42:53.10 And that's important when, 00:42:53.13\00:42:54.50 you know, if you're representing 00:42:54.54\00:42:56.50 and I always think when you're representing God, 00:42:56.54\00:42:59.77 there is, there are two standards, 00:42:59.81\00:43:01.44 there's your standard and there is God's standard. 00:43:01.48\00:43:03.68 And so when you, 00:43:03.71\00:43:05.05 when you want to introduce people to God, 00:43:05.08\00:43:06.72 you want to take them up to God's standard, 00:43:06.75\00:43:08.48 not remain where we are, 00:43:08.52\00:43:10.19 because that's part of the growth 00:43:10.22\00:43:11.99 that comes from knowing, knowing God. 00:43:12.02\00:43:14.52 So I'm coming back to Peo again. 00:43:14.56\00:43:16.56 Sorry to interrupt you. That's all right. 00:43:16.59\00:43:18.16 Coming back to Peo, 00:43:18.19\00:43:20.36 his influence in the church 00:43:20.40\00:43:21.73 in the beginning was quite remarkable, 00:43:21.76\00:43:24.93 right back in the early days, about... 00:43:24.97\00:43:28.27 See, Batuna was established in 19, 00:43:28.30\00:43:31.64 it was ready to be inhabited by 1926. 00:43:31.67\00:43:36.11 In about 1918, 18, 19 somewhere there 00:43:36.14\00:43:40.82 Peo had been at school for a little while. 00:43:40.85\00:43:43.82 And there was some interest coming from Malaita. 00:43:43.85\00:43:47.72 Now Malaita had the reputation of being a pretty tough place. 00:43:47.76\00:43:52.19 Fiery. 00:43:52.23\00:43:53.60 And Peo volunteered to take the gospel to Malaita. 00:43:53.63\00:43:59.70 Is that right? 00:43:59.73\00:44:01.57 And he knew that if he went, 00:44:01.60\00:44:04.91 the chances were fairly high that he would be murdered. 00:44:04.94\00:44:08.91 But he was willing to go 00:44:08.94\00:44:11.51 and volunteered to go 00:44:11.55\00:44:13.82 to Malaita to take the gospel there. 00:44:13.85\00:44:16.38 And it's not like Malaita was just down the road. 00:44:16.42\00:44:18.25 No, it was... 00:44:18.29\00:44:19.62 It was on the other side of the Solomon Islands. 00:44:19.65\00:44:21.76 Yes, it's on the north chain of islands 00:44:21.79\00:44:23.83 rather than on the south chain. 00:44:23.86\00:44:25.19 And it's, if you get to Honiara, 00:44:25.23\00:44:26.59 you've got to go sort of northeast 00:44:26.63\00:44:28.10 to get to the, 00:44:28.13\00:44:29.46 but that's where he was prepared to go there 00:44:29.50\00:44:31.47 and risk his life for the sake of the gospel. 00:44:31.50\00:44:34.77 And so he was quite an astounding person. 00:44:34.80\00:44:37.54 And if, you were gonna say something, Ron? 00:44:37.57\00:44:40.11 No, no, no. 00:44:40.14\00:44:42.24 And it wasn't long after that, that he was married. 00:44:42.28\00:44:45.08 Yes, we've got a photo. Yes. 00:44:45.11\00:44:47.05 Photo of his wedding. 00:44:47.08\00:44:49.78 Okay, on the left wedding is Peo's, 00:44:49.82\00:44:51.89 on the left picture is Peo's wedding. 00:44:51.92\00:44:55.12 And the, his lady, 00:44:55.16\00:44:56.99 his wife is the short lady holding a bunch of flowers. 00:44:57.03\00:45:00.46 You can see the difference in the height of the people. 00:45:00.50\00:45:01.83 Yes, you certainly can. 00:45:01.86\00:45:03.26 So the women, and there's a male there 00:45:03.30\00:45:06.03 standing beside Peo 00:45:06.07\00:45:07.47 behind the two women on the right. 00:45:07.50\00:45:09.70 You can see how tall Peo is. Yes. 00:45:09.74\00:45:11.87 Quite tall, significantly tall. 00:45:11.91\00:45:15.24 And that was his wedding. 00:45:15.28\00:45:16.78 And within a couple of years after they were married, 00:45:16.81\00:45:19.91 they had a daughter. 00:45:19.95\00:45:23.65 And Peo became quite ill soon after. 00:45:23.69\00:45:27.66 Who's in the other photo? 00:45:27.69\00:45:29.42 The other photo is Peo's younger brother, 00:45:29.46\00:45:31.49 the next born that's Kata Rangoso. 00:45:31.53\00:45:34.26 And his second wife. 00:45:34.30\00:45:36.30 When Kata was married, 00:45:36.33\00:45:37.83 both times he picked a wife 00:45:37.87\00:45:39.63 and chose a wife from a different island. 00:45:39.67\00:45:42.10 So not from the Marovo. 00:45:42.14\00:45:45.61 But soon, not long after that photo was taken, 00:45:45.64\00:45:49.24 well, within a couple of years anyway, 00:45:49.28\00:45:51.51 their child, their daughter was born. 00:45:51.55\00:45:54.18 And before she turned one, she died. 00:45:54.22\00:45:57.62 Tragically. Tragically died. 00:45:57.65\00:46:00.12 And it wasn't long after that, 00:46:00.16\00:46:01.62 within a year after the daughter died, 00:46:01.66\00:46:04.93 Peo for quite some time had been suffering 00:46:04.96\00:46:07.56 the effects of tuberculosis. 00:46:07.60\00:46:10.47 And within 18 months or so of the daughter dying, 00:46:10.50\00:46:14.77 Peo died. 00:46:14.80\00:46:17.54 What year was that do you recall? 00:46:17.57\00:46:19.84 It was about, well, they were married in '24. 00:46:19.87\00:46:26.65 And so I've got a date here somewhere. 00:46:26.68\00:46:29.38 But it was probably around '28 I think when Peo died. 00:46:29.42\00:46:34.32 And at that time Wicks and Pastor Wicks 00:46:34.36\00:46:37.66 and Pastor Bulmer both at Batuna 00:46:37.69\00:46:41.56 and they had been teaching now 00:46:41.60\00:46:43.43 with all the translating and those. 00:46:43.47\00:46:46.43 You've actually got some things you've got written here. 00:46:46.47\00:46:49.37 And this is Peo translated many hymns 00:46:49.40\00:46:51.97 into Marovo language. 00:46:52.01\00:46:54.11 And one of which was sung at his funeral at Telina. 00:46:54.14\00:46:57.95 Yes. 00:46:57.98\00:46:59.31 On March 9, 1926. 00:46:59.35\00:47:01.25 So that's only two years after he got married. 00:47:01.28\00:47:03.32 Yes, that Batuna was only two years old. 00:47:03.35\00:47:05.55 Yeah. 00:47:05.59\00:47:06.92 So in a very, when you look at his life 00:47:06.96\00:47:09.06 in a very short time, he accomplished an awful lot. 00:47:09.09\00:47:12.69 Oh, great. He became... 00:47:12.73\00:47:14.53 Very, very smart. 00:47:14.56\00:47:15.90 He became the coordinator for all the churches 00:47:15.93\00:47:19.87 in around that part of Marovo. 00:47:19.90\00:47:22.27 So he was given a huge amount of responsibility 00:47:22.30\00:47:25.87 very early in the piece. 00:47:25.91\00:47:27.98 Oh, he must have shown great. 00:47:28.01\00:47:29.84 Great talent and great, yes. 00:47:29.88\00:47:32.31 And you mentioned that he translated hymns. 00:47:32.35\00:47:36.05 There was a book published, a hymn book published, 00:47:36.08\00:47:38.35 the majority of the hymns in it were translated by Peo. 00:47:38.39\00:47:42.96 And one of those was sung at his funeral on Telina. 00:47:42.99\00:47:48.83 I like the concept. 00:47:48.86\00:47:50.57 The missionaries go to a place, 00:47:50.60\00:47:52.87 they help develop and do things. 00:47:52.90\00:47:56.34 And then those people like Peo did, 00:47:56.37\00:47:59.07 he went and became a missionary himself 00:47:59.11\00:48:01.84 to do the same thing. 00:48:01.88\00:48:03.21 Exactly. And you know what? 00:48:03.24\00:48:04.58 We're here in 2019. 00:48:04.61\00:48:06.41 And we're doing the same thing. 00:48:06.45\00:48:08.45 You know, and so the work never stops. 00:48:08.48\00:48:10.49 And the gospel commission still continues, go ye, 00:48:10.52\00:48:13.79 that's you and I, that are there to do something. 00:48:13.82\00:48:16.66 And you're doing that too, Ron, even in your retirement years. 00:48:16.69\00:48:20.10 You're going out there and doing things. 00:48:20.13\00:48:22.26 And tell me, do you feel that it's a, 00:48:22.30\00:48:27.57 it's something that you have to do, 00:48:27.60\00:48:30.27 it takes a lot of effort? 00:48:30.31\00:48:32.64 It does take a lot of effort. 00:48:32.67\00:48:34.68 But it is rewarding 00:48:34.71\00:48:36.04 because we'd like to take students 00:48:36.08\00:48:37.65 who are involved 00:48:37.68\00:48:39.01 in any part of the construction industry 00:48:39.05\00:48:41.52 and bring them down to where we're working. 00:48:41.55\00:48:44.05 My last episode out there, 00:48:44.09\00:48:45.75 I took a nail gun out 00:48:45.79\00:48:47.86 and these guys just saw 00:48:47.89\00:48:49.22 that was better than sliced bread. 00:48:49.26\00:48:52.09 To be able to use a nail gun, 00:48:52.13\00:48:53.66 but we'd like to take the students 00:48:53.70\00:48:56.30 and teach them the Aussie way, 00:48:56.33\00:48:57.67 that's what they say, Ron teaches us the Aussie way. 00:48:57.70\00:49:01.27 Just improve their skills. 00:49:01.30\00:49:03.54 So when they graduate because at this, 00:49:03.57\00:49:06.27 at Batuna Vocational School they only teach theory, 00:49:06.31\00:49:10.08 not very much practical. 00:49:10.11\00:49:11.45 Okay. 00:49:11.48\00:49:12.81 So the boys have to, 00:49:12.85\00:49:14.18 and the girls that are doing other courses, 00:49:14.22\00:49:16.79 need to find some practical work. 00:49:16.82\00:49:19.32 So the electricians have come out, 00:49:19.35\00:49:21.72 take boys, the plumber comes out 00:49:21.76\00:49:23.56 takes boys and we... 00:49:23.59\00:49:25.03 They are all learning from anyone that goes out. 00:49:25.06\00:49:27.86 Yeah, so it's just lifting the standard, 00:49:27.90\00:49:32.33 a better way to do it. 00:49:32.37\00:49:33.80 So we don't only go out there to show 00:49:33.84\00:49:36.34 the spiritual side about God in the Bible, 00:49:36.37\00:49:39.07 we're actually showing a practical things 00:49:39.11\00:49:41.28 because that's the balance a school should have, 00:49:41.31\00:49:43.14 isn't that right, Glynn, 00:49:43.18\00:49:44.51 that we should be able to teach them 00:49:44.55\00:49:45.88 how to garden, how to feed themselves. 00:49:45.91\00:49:48.35 And that's what the early schools were doing, 00:49:48.38\00:49:49.78 weren't they? 00:49:49.82\00:49:51.15 And now teaching people 00:49:51.19\00:49:52.52 how to translate and read and write, 00:49:52.55\00:49:54.62 which is and type. 00:49:54.66\00:49:56.56 I have trouble typing. 00:49:56.59\00:49:58.49 Now a bit what Peo did was 00:49:58.53\00:50:00.60 astounding for such a short period 00:50:00.63\00:50:02.36 in the short life. 00:50:02.40\00:50:03.73 Had he not died as a fairly young person, 00:50:03.77\00:50:07.27 he would have been a magnificent leader, 00:50:07.30\00:50:10.61 right through the war year. 00:50:10.64\00:50:11.97 Well, his brother managed to be. 00:50:12.01\00:50:13.34 Well, his brother took over basically. 00:50:13.38\00:50:15.64 When Tatagu died Peo became the chief. 00:50:15.68\00:50:19.21 And when he died, 00:50:19.25\00:50:20.62 his next brother Kata Rangoso became the chief. 00:50:20.65\00:50:24.95 At Peo's funeral the theme that he alluded to 00:50:24.99\00:50:29.59 was one that he had translated. 00:50:29.62\00:50:33.13 And we know it is, 00:50:33.16\00:50:34.73 I'm thinking today of the beautiful land 00:50:34.76\00:50:36.63 I shall see when the sun goes down in it. 00:50:36.67\00:50:38.93 Will there be any stars in my crown? 00:50:38.97\00:50:41.30 Will it be any stars in my crown? 00:50:41.34\00:50:42.74 He translated that into the Marovo language. 00:50:42.77\00:50:47.24 A.R. Barrett, Pastor Barrett 00:50:47.28\00:50:49.91 translated it back into English that what Peo had written it. 00:50:49.94\00:50:56.05 And it's, it's a bit different to the one that we know, 00:50:56.08\00:50:59.45 when we sing it, we sing 00:50:59.49\00:51:01.82 but I'm not sure it's in our current hymn book, 00:51:01.86\00:51:03.56 but we sing. 00:51:03.59\00:51:04.93 Will there be any stars in my crown, in my crown, 00:51:04.96\00:51:07.06 when at last, the sun goes down? 00:51:07.10\00:51:09.33 When I wake with the bliss in the haven of rest, 00:51:09.36\00:51:12.03 will there be any stars in my crown? 00:51:12.07\00:51:14.90 But when Peo wrote it, 00:51:14.94\00:51:18.11 he changed the sense of it just a wee bit. 00:51:18.14\00:51:20.84 And I think that what he wrote 00:51:20.88\00:51:24.25 reflects what he learned at school. 00:51:24.28\00:51:29.02 When he was taught the gospel 00:51:29.05\00:51:30.92 those early missionaries who have, who were, 00:51:30.95\00:51:36.02 how can I say it? 00:51:36.06\00:51:38.86 Probably died in the wool, 00:51:38.89\00:51:40.53 certainly died in the wool Adventist, 00:51:40.56\00:51:41.90 but they understood the gospel, 00:51:41.93\00:51:44.00 and they taught the gospel, 00:51:44.03\00:51:45.97 and when Peo translated the hymn. 00:51:46.00\00:51:49.67 I'm going to read it now to you 00:51:49.70\00:51:51.07 from what A.R. Barrett translated 00:51:51.11\00:51:53.54 back to English from what Peo had read, 00:51:53.58\00:51:56.14 had written. 00:51:56.18\00:51:57.71 And this is the way it goes, 00:51:57.75\00:51:59.08 I'm thinking today of that very good land, 00:51:59.11\00:52:00.98 but we can't recognize that 00:52:01.02\00:52:02.35 but for I must go there when the sun goes down. 00:52:02.38\00:52:07.19 Will there be any stars in my crown? 00:52:07.22\00:52:08.92 That's the end of the verse. 00:52:08.96\00:52:11.76 And then he goes on, 00:52:11.79\00:52:13.40 will there be any stars in my crown, 00:52:13.43\00:52:15.00 when at last the sun goes down, 00:52:15.03\00:52:17.63 when I wake in that beautiful place, 00:52:17.67\00:52:20.87 and here comes the bit that's different. 00:52:20.90\00:52:23.00 There will be stars in my crown. 00:52:23.04\00:52:25.97 So it's not a question anymore. 00:52:26.01\00:52:28.18 It's a statement. 00:52:28.21\00:52:29.98 And that tells me that he understood the gospel. 00:52:30.01\00:52:34.78 One of the significant people in the church recently, 00:52:34.82\00:52:37.72 the editor of the Review and Herald 00:52:37.75\00:52:39.09 write a book called An Absolute Confidence, 00:52:39.12\00:52:41.82 and Peo was merely, was saying that in this hymn, 00:52:41.86\00:52:46.29 there's confidence, 00:52:46.33\00:52:47.73 there's no need to be in doubt 00:52:47.76\00:52:50.47 as to your status when you accept Jesus. 00:52:50.50\00:52:53.77 They will be, he said, they will be stars in my crown. 00:52:53.80\00:52:55.80 They will be stars in my crown. 00:52:55.84\00:52:57.17 Just a wonderful idea. 00:52:57.21\00:52:58.67 That is a beautiful idea. 00:52:58.71\00:53:00.34 And on that note, 00:53:00.38\00:53:01.71 I just want to go to our address roll. 00:53:01.74\00:53:03.85 We love to hear from you. 00:53:03.88\00:53:05.71 And if you have any questions, 00:53:05.75\00:53:07.42 we would like to be able to answer them. 00:53:07.45\00:53:09.62 And if you'd like to contact us and make any donation 00:53:09.65\00:53:13.92 or just let us know 00:53:13.96\00:53:15.82 how you enjoy the programs on 3ABN, 00:53:15.86\00:53:18.16 we'd love to hear from you and this is our contact detail. 00:53:18.19\00:53:20.60 If you would like to contact 3ABN Australia, 00:53:25.37\00:53:27.54 you may do so in the following ways. 00:53:27.57\00:53:29.54 You may write to 3ABN Australia PO Box 752, 00:53:29.57\00:53:33.78 Morisset, New South Wales 2264, Australia. 00:53:33.81\00:53:37.91 That's PO Box 752, Morisset, 00:53:37.95\00:53:41.58 New South Wales 2264, Australia. 00:53:41.62\00:53:44.79 Or you may call 02-4973-3456. 00:53:44.82\00:53:49.52 That's 02-4973-3456 00:53:49.56\00:53:53.70 from 8:30 am to 5 pm, Monday to Thursday, 00:53:53.73\00:53:57.43 or 8:30 am to 12 pm Fridays, New South Wales time. 00:53:57.47\00:54:02.64 You may also email us at mail@3abnaustralia.org.au. 00:54:02.67\00:54:08.41 That's mail@3abnaustralia.org.au. 00:54:08.44\00:54:15.78 Thank you for all you do to help us light the world 00:54:15.82\00:54:18.42 with the glory of God's truth. 00:54:18.45\00:54:22.56 Don't forget we love to hear from you. 00:54:22.59\00:54:25.03 Now, I'm going to come back to you, Ron. 00:54:25.06\00:54:26.93 We're going to switch from a local native person Peo 00:54:26.96\00:54:31.30 who is brilliant. 00:54:31.33\00:54:33.13 But we're going to go now to a doctor 00:54:33.17\00:54:36.00 who had gone out there, Dr. Muriel Parker. 00:54:36.04\00:54:38.84 What can you tell us about Dr. Parker? 00:54:38.87\00:54:41.34 She was a nurse, not a doctor. 00:54:41.38\00:54:43.14 All right. Okay. 00:54:43.18\00:54:44.51 When we first went there, 00:54:44.55\00:54:46.01 we noticed this grave with Muriel Parker on it, 00:54:46.05\00:54:49.75 when she was buried there in 1930. 00:54:49.78\00:54:51.85 There's a picture of the grave. 00:54:51.89\00:54:53.86 Yes, that's the picture of grave. 00:54:53.89\00:54:55.52 When we came home we gave a report 00:54:55.56\00:54:57.46 in Port Macquarie Sabbath School 00:54:57.49\00:54:59.23 and Glynn put that picture up 00:54:59.26\00:55:01.26 and at Sabbath School member jumped up all excited, 00:55:01.30\00:55:03.77 and he said, 00:55:03.80\00:55:05.13 "Is that where my aunty Muriel is buried?" 00:55:05.17\00:55:08.27 And Glynn is sort of missed him a little bit, 00:55:08.30\00:55:10.27 perhaps he's got the facts wrong. 00:55:10.31\00:55:11.64 So we did some research, 00:55:11.67\00:55:13.91 and it was his dad's older sister, 00:55:13.94\00:55:16.41 and her maiden name was Muriel Stace. 00:55:16.44\00:55:19.45 And as a young girl, she grew up in Yarra, 00:55:19.48\00:55:21.68 which is which is halfway 00:55:21.72\00:55:23.15 between Woolhope and Wonka in New England. 00:55:23.18\00:55:27.19 And she went out there as a nurse 00:55:27.22\00:55:30.19 with Evelyn Totenhofer and her husband, 00:55:30.23\00:55:32.76 who was pastor, Arthur Parker, and she died there in 1930. 00:55:32.79\00:55:37.57 That's before the Second World War. 00:55:37.60\00:55:40.60 Yeah. 00:55:40.64\00:55:41.97 What can you tell us about her, Glynn? 00:55:42.00\00:55:44.37 Well, she and her husband, I think was Arthur Parker, 00:55:44.41\00:55:47.94 Pastor Parker anyway, 00:55:47.98\00:55:49.38 had only been in the country 00:55:49.41\00:55:50.75 and as missionaries for six weeks. 00:55:50.78\00:55:53.62 And they had, they had gone to Batuna to learn something 00:55:53.65\00:55:57.55 about the experience of being missionaries. 00:55:57.59\00:55:59.79 And a lot of other missionaries had gathered there for this, 00:55:59.82\00:56:02.22 for a meeting. 00:56:02.26\00:56:03.96 And she became really ill. 00:56:03.99\00:56:06.83 And she died on a Friday evening, 00:56:06.86\00:56:11.67 and was promptly buried 00:56:11.70\00:56:13.03 because there's no refrigeration 00:56:13.07\00:56:14.60 to look after someone. 00:56:14.64\00:56:16.40 She had an ectopic pregnancy. 00:56:16.44\00:56:19.07 And basically hemorrhage to death. 00:56:19.11\00:56:22.48 And it was... 00:56:22.51\00:56:23.85 Very painful death. 00:56:23.88\00:56:25.21 Very painful death. 00:56:25.25\00:56:27.22 And we, 00:56:27.25\00:56:31.45 we saw this grave, 00:56:31.49\00:56:32.82 and we learned about the story 00:56:32.85\00:56:34.19 and some other relatives 00:56:34.22\00:56:35.56 came to Port Macquarie Sabbath one day 00:56:35.59\00:56:36.93 and told us the whole story 00:56:36.96\00:56:38.33 about the Stace family 00:56:38.36\00:56:40.70 of which she was a member. 00:56:40.73\00:56:43.77 But there's, 00:56:43.80\00:56:45.20 there's an interesting bit in her obituary, 00:56:45.23\00:56:47.24 which if I want to read it if we have time. 00:56:47.27\00:56:51.27 And this is what she said to her husband 00:56:51.31\00:56:52.87 in a very soft voice as she was dying. 00:56:52.91\00:56:55.71 And she was quoting a hymn out of Christ in Song, 00:56:55.74\00:56:57.98 the book that Peo had. 00:56:58.01\00:57:00.35 I'm trusting Thee Lord Jesus. 00:57:00.38\00:57:03.18 And then she said to her husband 00:57:03.22\00:57:04.75 just before she died, Jesus is all the world to me. 00:57:04.79\00:57:08.89 And that is captivates the spirit 00:57:08.92\00:57:11.99 that largely infused the missionaries 00:57:12.03\00:57:14.46 who went to the Solomons and everywhere basically. 00:57:14.50\00:57:18.73 A wonderful testimony. Yeah. 00:57:18.77\00:57:21.47 So she had her husband sing as a hymn from the book. 00:57:21.50\00:57:24.97 No, she was singing to her husband there. 00:57:25.01\00:57:27.84 It's beautiful. 00:57:27.88\00:57:29.51 To go out there and die so soon from such a tragic way was sad. 00:57:29.54\00:57:34.45 But one of the things I learned from this story 00:57:34.48\00:57:36.48 is that those in the native areas 00:57:36.52\00:57:39.62 are not cannibals, they're not heathen, 00:57:39.65\00:57:41.52 they are smart people that God uses for His work. 00:57:41.56\00:57:44.79 So until next time, God bless you. 00:57:44.83\00:57:46.56