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Gut-Brain Connection

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00:15 This is 3ABN Now
00:17 with John and Rosemary Malkiewycz.
00:20 Hello and welcome to 3ABN Now.
00:24 It's really good to have our audience with us again today
00:26 because we have got a great subject.
00:29 We do! It's a very important one, too.
00:31 We do! It's one that I am very interested in myself
00:35 and I think that you should be as well
00:38 because it's to do with the health of our bodies
00:41 and our minds, and through our bodies and our minds
00:44 being healthy we can appreciate God better
00:47 and have a better relationship with Him.
00:49 So if you are experiencing ill health
00:52 or you know someone who does...
00:54 and that will be nearly everybody...
00:57 you need to be watching this program today.
00:59 We're going to be talking about how the gut
01:03 and the brain work together for either our ill health
01:07 or our good health.
01:09 And today we have a couple that have been on this program -
01:12 3ABN Now - before. Um-hmm. And we really enjoyed our time
01:16 with them and they are here with us now
01:19 to talk to us about this subject
01:21 because they lecture around the world about it.
01:24 And this is Chad and Fadia Kreuzer. Welcome back!
01:29 Thank you for having us. It's really good to have you
01:31 here because this is an important subject
01:33 and you are going to take us through a whole lot of
01:36 information today. Yes! Yeah!
01:39 You know, one of the most fascinating things to me is
01:43 medical historians have looked back... Right now there is...
01:47 there is this research coming out
01:50 almost it seems daily in the medical journals
01:53 on the scientific studies on the gut/brain connection
01:56 and how what's going on in the gut can actually affect
02:00 the brain either to make you happy or depressed
02:03 or anxious. Or to dull or enhance.
02:06 That's right... exactly.
02:07 And one of the things that is fascinating is
02:11 between the human gut like our intestines and our brain
02:16 is a nerve that connects them called the vagus nerve.
02:19 Um-hmm. And the vagus nerve basically sends information
02:23 both ways, but what researchers have discovered is that 90%
02:26 of the information that travels through this nerve
02:29 actually goes from the gut to the brain
02:32 not the other way around meaning our guts
02:34 are telling... our intestines and our guts...
02:36 are actually telling our brains more
02:38 than our brains are telling our guts.
02:40 So they're talking to the brain. That's right.
02:42 And they've actually found that amazingly enough you can
02:44 sever the nerve so that it's not connected...
02:47 And you know, most of the time if you sever the connection
02:50 to the brain you're going to have serious trouble.
02:52 Something will not function after you do that.
02:54 But when it comes to the gut it can function without any
02:57 information coming from the brain.
02:59 And so researchers actually now call the gut
03:01 "the second brain. "
03:03 And back to the medical historians: they've looked
03:07 back through history to find what is the oldest scientific
03:12 study in all of recorded history.
03:14 And the National Institutes of Health in the United States
03:18 is the most well-funded medical institution on the planet.
03:22 They have a 26 billion dollar fund every year.
03:26 And there's an article that's found in the NIH
03:31 in the National Library of Medicine in the United States
03:34 and it tells us that looking back through all of history
03:37 the oldest recorded scientific study that they can find
03:41 they say is in the book of Daniel in the Bible.
03:44 Um-hmm. And that's fascinating.
03:46 And it's actually in Daniel chapter 1, and the Bible
03:49 tells us the history. Daniel was taken as a young man
03:52 from Jerusalem, the city of Jerusalem that he grew up in,
03:56 and he was taken captive by a king from Babylon:
03:59 modern-day Iraq. And he was taken as a captive
04:02 to Babylon. And he was given this food there
04:06 and it was the best food of the king, you know.
04:08 Because the best food would obviously be the meat
04:10 and you know all these luxuries that the king...
04:12 And the wine and the rich pastries or cakes or whatever.
04:17 Exactly. But Daniel... he knew there were certain foods that
04:19 he wasn't supposed to eat that were in Scripture
04:23 that God said: "these are not healthy; these are unclean
04:25 and not healthy. " And so Daniel decided
04:29 that he would actually, avoid these things -
04:33 he and his three friends - and then you begin to
04:35 see... this is actually as medical historians tell us...
04:38 the first scientific study in all of recorded history.
04:40 And maybe you could read that to us. It's found in Daniel ch. 1
04:44 and verse 12. It goes like this:
04:46 'Prove thy servants I beseech thee
04:49 ten days, and let them give us pulse to eat
04:54 and water to drink. " Boy! That's a very simple diet,
04:57 isn't it? It is! That's all for ten days?
05:00 I mean, what difference is ten days gonna make
05:03 to someone's health? And that's the fascinating thing.
05:05 You'd think: "Come on! A diet change?
05:06 It takes years for a diet to change someone. "
05:08 But the research actually today is showing
05:11 "No, it can actually take ten days. "
05:12 This has actually been tested
05:14 and Dr. Neil Nedley out of the United States
05:18 has probably the best depression program in the world.
05:22 Depression Recovery Program out of Weimar, California.
05:25 They have a 10-day program that implements this very same thing.
05:28 They find fantastic results there within ten days
05:31 reversing depression in about 99% of people.
05:34 They have a benefit to their depression in just ten days.
05:37 And so this study was done 2,000 years ago
05:41 meaning the first clinical study in all of recorded history.
05:44 And what it showed at the end of this time period
05:47 and then following that... They first thought: "Oh, you're
05:49 going to be healthy. Where are you going to get your protein? "
05:52 Maybe they didn't say that but they said:
05:54 "You're going to get unhealthy; you're going to look bad
05:56 and so forth. " It'll be bad for us. The king will think
05:59 we're not looking after you. " Yeah!
06:01 "We could be killed. " That's right!
06:03 I mean, it was scary but yet Daniel said: "No, no. Let's
06:05 just try it. " And they tried it for ten days
06:08 and Daniel and his 3 friends - we know them as Shadrach,
06:10 Meshach, and Abednego -
06:12 they ended up doing better in their "examinations "
06:15 than any of the other wise men of Babylon.
06:18 And now it makes an incredible story coming from 2,000 years
06:23 ago. But the interesting thing, too, about the study is
06:25 that it's a study of the gut/brain connection.
06:29 Meaning it's not just ANY study.
06:31 What they were eating affected their cognition.
06:33 It actually affected their mental state. Um-hmm.
06:37 And you know... Just in case someone's wondering
06:41 what pulse means, pulse means things grown from seeds.
06:45 Yes! So they went on a plant-based diet to clarify.
06:48 So Daniel and his friends go from a... the other wise men
06:52 in Babylon are on a standard meat-based diet.
06:55 The standard Babylonian diet we might say.
06:57 And the go-to a plant-based diet, and it enhances
07:00 their cognition. And some people might think:
07:03 "Well, that's neat... it's done 2,500 years ago
07:05 but does it apply to us today? " somebody might be
07:08 wondering. "Is it really really legitimate and true? "
07:11 But we actually have a video clip here
07:13 and in this video... This is from a documentary
07:15 that my wife and I produced called Ancient Health.
07:18 And the interesting thing is we're told that this has
07:21 actually been put to the test in our modern era.
07:24 And we'll see what it says. OK... let's have a look.
07:29 But the main thing that folks should be concerned about
07:32 is how long you live
07:33 and how likely are you to get disease.
07:36 And there have been three major studies published
07:38 on this subject: big meta analyses.
07:40 And these meta analyses -
07:42 and only three big ones have been published -
07:44 they show consistently that low-carb diets -
07:48 in other words low plant-food diets,
07:50 high animal-food diets - consistently they show
07:54 that they are associated with more heart disease
07:56 and more death, more mortality.
07:59 If you look around the world and you look at these people
08:03 in the blue zones, the average percentage of calories
08:07 from carbs ranges from about
08:10 50% to about 80%.
08:13 Carbs are not the enemy... refined carbs are the enemy.
08:17 There have been a number of recent studies
08:19 Dr. Beezhold out of Phoenix, AZ. First, she did an observational
08:24 study showing that plant-based diet actually significantly
08:29 improves your depression and anxiety stress score.
08:33 It's called the DASS score.
08:36 So the mood actually is improved
08:39 when you get the right amount of carbohydrates
08:42 but also the right type of carbohydrates & less protein.
08:46 Then she followed up with an interventional study,
08:48 and that's where she took people who are not on a plant-based
08:52 diet and put them on a plant- based diet for two weeks.
08:54 She also put them on a plant-based diet plus fish
08:57 for two weeks to see which one would be superior.
09:00 And it turned out the fish diet wasn't any more superior
09:03 than the carnivore diet. But the plant-based diet
09:06 significant dramatic changes -
09:09 statistically significant changes - in just two weeks
09:12 in their mental ability.
09:14 We see when people go on this diet and drink plenty of water,
09:17 get plenty of rest... follow these natural remedies
09:20 that they... it's just like something snaps in their brain.
09:23 And it doesn't take like weeks or months.
09:25 Plant-based diet is key in our program for depression
09:28 and anxiety recovery. The results are outstanding
09:32 because it's a comprehensive approach. It's not just diet.
09:35 We also utilize exercise and we're utilizing correct thoughts
09:38 and a lot of different modalities.
09:40 But the diet is a key element.
09:46 I went on a plant-based diet about five weeks ago.
09:48 It's amazing because even if they had not told me
09:53 he had the diet change the first thing I noticed
09:57 was he was bringing his schoolwork in.
09:59 My teacher has actually been
10:03 bragging on how much better I've been behaving
10:06 since I've been on the diet.
10:08 In class he wasn't getting as distracted.
10:11 That he was paying attention; he was able to listen
10:14 more closely. He was being alert.
10:16 His discernment was better.
10:18 He was more diligent. Everything!
10:21 I can pay attention more. My mind is more clear
10:24 since I've been on the diet.
10:26 It's just a HUGE improvement
10:28 and I also noticed he lost a lot of weight. I mean
10:31 but the main thing I noticed was behavioral.
10:34 A study in a middle school has showed clearly
10:38 that switching the menu from animal source
10:41 to plant-sourced diet almost eliminated absenteeism,
10:45 increased and enhanced attention and the homework performance
10:52 and performance at school.
10:53 It almost eliminated acts of violence
10:57 as well as teen pregnancies.
10:59 And so they just feel better everywhere the blood flows.
11:03 Everywhere that perfect circu- lation goes they feel better...
11:05 not just in body but in mind.
11:08 Clears up their thoughts even.
11:10 And every single day since I've been on a plant-based diet
11:13 the clarity continues to increase
11:15 and my face continues to look younger
11:18 and my body feels... I feel like I look more vibrant.
11:22 I've looked at pictures of myself before and after
11:24 and I looked 5 years older - even just ten months ago -
11:28 than I do now.
11:29 What we eat does get turned into neurotransmitters.
11:33 It actually helps us or hurts us, depending on
11:36 what we're eating in regards to our brain chemistry
11:39 and it plays a vital role in health of the brain.
11:44 They'll say within 3 or 4 days
11:46 they seem to have clarity. They're alert;
11:50 they listen in class better; they absorb more;
11:53 and they do better on their tests.
11:55 The fog has been lifted out of my head.
11:57 I think clear. I've got better ideas I believe.
12:00 I can put two and two together faster
12:03 and just in general I'm happy.
12:10 In fact, diet alone... Studies show that diet
12:12 alone will reduce your depression and anxiety scores
12:17 by half just by dramatically changing your diet
12:22 to a plant-based. And so that's significant.
12:24 Now we go for more than just half
12:28 and so that's why we have a whole program that includes
12:31 more than this. But just the diet alone
12:33 can make a big difference. You don't have to choose
12:36 between high-quality living and longevity.
12:38 It's the same program... the same NEWSTART approach
12:42 to living helps you live longer and it helps you live better.
12:48 I found that information really really interesting.
12:53 I mean, there's these guys getting this food ready.
12:57 You're talking about good food
12:58 and there's these two guys who are obviously overweight.
13:01 You're talking about good food and I'm thinking
13:04 what's the connection. What was the connection?
13:06 Yeah, we became great friends with them.
13:08 So a couple young men who were coming to a class
13:12 where they were changing their diet
13:14 and we followed them around for four months.
13:16 One of them was from Hawaii. The other one was from Samoa.
13:20 And we followed them around for four months
13:22 as their blood pressure their cholesterol came down.
13:26 Also their weight came down. One of them
13:29 he even started running again. I mean, just amazing
13:32 how fast and how rapid these changes can take place
13:36 when people move from kind of more of a meat-based diet
13:39 to a plant-based diet. A junk food diet?
13:40 And so that was obviously earlier on
13:44 when they were still going through the system
13:46 so they lost a lot more weight. Yes, they ended up...
13:49 they ended up looking significantly different.
13:51 It's really a lifestyle change, isn't it?
13:52 It is. You have to adopt that. If you don't do that,
13:55 it's not going to be of benefit to you.
13:57 But you find, too, though, that you can do more.
13:58 You can start doing exercise. There are things
14:01 you used to be able to do which you CAN do again
14:04 so your lifestyle should change.
14:05 Yes, and especially after changing the diet
14:07 because what happens is, you know, we can get so large
14:09 that it's even hard to do significant amounts of exercise.
14:12 That's right. But the diet is the primary factor
14:15 even in weight loss. That's the most important factor.
14:17 Exercise is actually... it's much less of a factor
14:21 in weight loss than the diet itself.
14:22 So even people who say: "Man, I just can't
14:24 exercise" there's still hope for you
14:27 by changing the diet. Once your body starts losing
14:29 the weight your body feels better
14:31 and you're then able to exercise once again.
14:33 And also in that clip they were talking - the teacher was -
14:37 talking about his student. Do you know what his name is?
14:40 Delmar Junior. Yes. Oh, that's right, Delmar.
14:43 And she said in five weeks
14:47 there was a noticeable change
14:50 just changing his diet. Yes.
14:53 We read... we read there in the book of Daniel
14:57 in the Bible that Daniel only asked for 10 days
15:01 trial... which is nothing.
15:05 And there was a noticeable difference. They looked
15:08 healthier than the others who had spent their 10 days
15:10 eating the king's food.
15:12 But this is five weeks and there's a phenomenal change
15:15 in this young man - yes - in the school.
15:18 Actually Delmar Junior... the change came within
15:22 the five weeks. She's just saying it's been five weeks
15:24 since his change. Yes, that's true. But she was noticing
15:27 you know even right from the beginning she's just like
15:30 "Wow! Something's changing about this young man! "
15:32 You know, his behavior. And then she says eventually
15:35 they saw the weight come off. "But who cares about the weight"
15:38 she said. "It's just incredible that his behavior
15:41 has changed and he wants to be at school now. "
15:44 He's more obedient and doing his work.
15:48 A happier person obviously.
15:50 There is nothing untoward or fantastic about
15:53 you know what we're talking about in the sense
15:55 the God who made us... He made us; He formed this body.
15:59 He knows exactly how this body will function
16:02 at its best. Yeah! At its peak.
16:05 And really it's very simple.
16:07 The diet is very simple.
16:09 You don't have to spend hours in the kitchen
16:12 preparing the gourmet meals when you can have something
16:15 very simple - yes - and it will benefit you
16:18 a thousand fold. Yes!
16:19 You know, and it's interesting, too, because
16:21 so the first clinical trial or study in all of recorded history
16:26 which we just mentioned...
16:28 medical historians say Daniel chapter 1 is the oldest
16:31 scientific study in recorded history...
16:33 when replicated today finds similar results.
16:36 Which is fascinating because much of ancient "so-called"
16:39 science if you were to look at it today it would be laughable.
16:42 You know, you say: "Oh, that's just silly! "
16:44 Bleeding people because they're sick.
16:46 Yes. They think it's going to help them. Putting leaches on
16:49 or whatever. Totally. But then you look at this
16:51 and when replicated we're finding similar benefits
16:53 that people within days of changing their diet
16:56 their cognition, their mental state, begins to do better.
16:59 They feel a clearer mind.
17:01 And what we saw Dr. Nedley mention in this was that
17:04 within two weeks... So they took people from...
17:07 They were on a meat-based diet. They had three groups then.
17:10 One group stayed on the meat- based diet. One group went on
17:12 a fish and plant-based diet.
17:13 And the other one went on a total plant-based diet.
17:16 And the only one that saw the cognitive or the mental
17:19 benefit was the one who went just on the plant-based diet.
17:22 It lowers inflammation and it was within two weeks.
17:25 So within two weeks and he said the study showed
17:28 that they lowered their depres- sion by 50% within two weeks.
17:32 So this is not some long, drawn-out process
17:34 where you just have to suffer through it. No!
17:36 You can actually increase your happiness very very rapidly.
17:40 And it's interesting because this is once again
17:42 that gut/brain connection.
17:45 And not only does Daniel mention the gut/brain connection
17:48 it's mentioned multiple times in the Bible.
17:50 It says in Lamentations 1 verse 20 it says:
17:53 "Behold, O Lord, for I am in distress.
17:56 My bowels are troubled. "
17:59 You know, and it sounds kind of funny to us, right?
18:00 Oh you know: "I'm in distress; my bowels are troubled. "
18:02 But now the research is showing... and depression...
18:05 yes... in the gut. That's right. I believe that people are
18:08 actually more in tune with their bodies many times.
18:11 We've sometimes gotten away from noticing how our body
18:13 functions. But this gut/brain connection
18:16 is very very real. And one of the studies which is
18:19 an animal study, but we begin to see the ties that
18:22 lead into humans is a study on? Mice.
18:26 So Fadia, maybe you can tell us about that.
18:27 They did a study with mice and they put them on a high-fat
18:31 diet. And these mice that were put on a high-fat diet
18:34 the behaviors that they exhibited were being anxious,
18:39 repetitive behaviors, inflammation,
18:43 and impaired memory.
18:46 So they had this happening when they put them on
18:49 a high-fat diet. And they had another group
18:51 that was on a regular fat diet.
18:53 And they didn't exhibit any of these behaviors.
18:55 But what's interesting is they did this:
18:58 they took the microbes out of the guts.
19:01 They transplanted them - the bacteria -
19:03 from the high-fat diet mice
19:06 and they transplanted them into the guts of the regular fat
19:09 diet mice and guess what happens?
19:11 They changed? They changed. They exhibited the same
19:13 behaviors: the anxious behaviors,
19:16 the repetitive behaviors. And by the way,
19:20 the repetitive behaviors: when you're depressed
19:23 you typically think the same negative thing
19:26 over and over. We call it rumination.
19:28 You're thinking the same sad or negative thing
19:31 over and over and over. And it's hard to
19:33 switch that behavior off, right? Yes.
19:36 And you're seeing the gut/brain connection, right?
19:39 These mice get the bad microbes in their gut
19:43 and then they start to be anxious.
19:45 Start exhibiting the bad behavior. Right.
19:47 And then impaired memory: that has to do with your brain.
19:50 And inflammation is a marker for depression.
19:53 Right? Most people who have depression
19:56 will have inflammation in the body.
19:58 And other lifestyle diseases also exhibit inflammation
20:02 as a marker. So
20:05 those mice you see just from a transplant
20:09 of the microbes so there's something going on
20:12 with the gut bacteria that affects our behavior,
20:16 that affects the gut/brain connection.
20:18 And more and more that's being seen.
20:21 And we were told many years ago that if we eat
20:25 too frequently too much of rich, unwholesome food
20:30 it not only affects our gut but ultimately
20:33 our brains as well.
20:35 And we're told also if we want to seek
20:40 patience and self-control we'll have to give more thought
20:44 to our guts than we do.
20:46 Isn't that interesting? And science is showing that today.
20:49 Well see, just looking back at Daniel
20:52 Daniel got this experiment for 10 days. He passed...
20:55 he and his friends passed it... so they stayed on that diet.
20:59 And after a period of time... I don't know, I think it was
21:03 supposed to be three years of learning or something -
21:05 um-hmm - that they had to do before they went before the king
21:08 At the end of the first chapter of Daniel in verse 17
21:11 it talks that God had given them knowledge and skill
21:14 and understanding and learning and wisdom.
21:17 And that then they had to go before the king
21:19 to be tested. And when all of these young people
21:23 went before the king it says in verse 19
21:28 that the king did not find among any of them
21:31 anyone like Daniel and his three friends. Yes.
21:33 And in verse 20 it actually says:
21:36 "In all matters of wisdom. " This is ALL matters of wisdom
21:40 and understanding... "that the king inquired of them... "
21:44 So he tested them.
21:46 "he found Daniel and his three friends, Shadrach, Meshach,
21:51 and Abednego, ten times better than all the magicians
21:57 and astrologers that were in his realm. "
22:00 So better than everybody who were supposed to have been
22:04 understanding and having wisdom.
22:06 They were ten times better. Yes! Now that is a real
22:10 gut/brain connection. It is! It is! And then to think that
22:14 simple changes can make such a significant... In fact,
22:17 in the short run for sure meaning within ten days
22:21 but that benefit continues. That's one of the great things
22:24 about this that it can actually... It gets better!
22:26 It does! And one of the things are is we know
22:28 that people on plant-based diets have lower levels of
22:31 heart disease meaning atherosclerosis
22:34 or the plaque that fills our arteries
22:37 that actually #1 you can reverse it.
22:39 Research has shown that a plant-based diet -
22:41 a low-fat plant-based diet - can actually reverse,
22:43 take away the plaque. We used to think it was just
22:45 a progressive disease that as we get older it just happens.
22:49 Now we know you can actually through Dr. Esselstyn,
22:52 Dr. Dean Ornish. Both of them have done studies
22:54 that show it can be reversed.
22:55 But the thing is is that also things like
22:58 dementia and Alzheimer's
23:00 are diseases that one of the correlations
23:04 is the plaque within the arteries.
23:05 If the arteries in your brain, the blood vessels I should say
23:09 within your brain, as they begin to fill up...
23:11 There's more to it than that. I don't want to make it
23:13 that simple, but we can actually damage our brains.
23:16 So this can help us not only in the short term
23:19 be healthier, happier, but it can in the long run too.
23:22 So the gut/brain connection... what we put into our mouths
23:25 affects not only our gut but ultimately our mind as well
23:29 in the short term... And also our body in all sorts of
23:31 of physical ways. And I'm talking about the...
23:34 Alzheimer's and things that
23:39 then has a bit of an idea of a circulation problem -
23:45 yes - involved in it. That's right!
23:46 The brain's not getting fed properly. Yep, and
23:49 so you know we're told that perfect health
23:52 depends upon perfect circulation.
23:55 The Bible says that the life of the flesh is in the blood.
23:59 And what we eat makes... literally makes... either good
24:03 or bad blood depending on what we are digesting.
24:06 And you know, they did a particular...
24:08 there's a Scientific American periodical
24:13 that talks about the gut/brain connection.
24:15 That article talks about researchers now calling the
24:19 gut "the second brain, " but then it goes on to talk about
24:22 how having a sour stomach
24:26 can make people have sour moods.
24:29 That sounds kind of interesting but there is also a book
24:32 called Counsels on Diet & Health that tells us the very same.
24:35 It says, and this is a quote:
24:36 "People who have a sour stomach are very often
24:39 of a sour disposition, and they are inclined to be
24:43 peevish and irritable. "
24:44 It's interesting that what's going on here...
24:46 And you think often: "OK, yeah, if I have a stomach ache
24:49 that negatively impacts my mind. "
24:51 But it's not just that actually.
24:53 There can be no pain in the gut...
24:56 We have found - and we'll talk maybe more about it later -
24:59 but my wife and I, we come from a background
25:01 of arguing and these kinds of things.
25:04 And as we learned how to change our diet...
25:07 And I'm not proud about arguing. We didn't want to.
25:10 We want to be good Christians who are at peace
25:13 all the time and so forth. But as our diet changed
25:16 it actually gave us literally a peaceful marriage.
25:21 Well that's good. That's the aim, isn't it? Yes!
25:23 And so the blessing of it is... You know, you think:
25:27 "Oh, yeah, but you have to ruin your life
25:29 by eating food you don't like!
25:31 You may be happy but... " The strange thing is
25:33 as you change... At first it's a little difficult, right? I mean
25:37 any change... for instance if you don't exercise
25:39 for years and then you start exercising you get sore
25:41 and you think: "Oh, man, this is why I never exercise:
25:43 'cause you get sore. " But then when you keep it up...
25:45 "I've got muscles I didn't know I had! " Exactly!
25:47 And then over time you get used to it
25:50 and when you exercise you don't get in so much pain
25:52 and you feel better and then you enjoy how you feel.
25:55 So too with this. And they actually did a study on...
25:58 Dr. Neal Barnard did a study in the United States
26:01 and they compared a plant-based diet
26:03 taking diabetics and helping to reverse their type II diabetes.
26:07 And they put one group on a plant-based diet
26:10 and they put the other group on what is called the American
26:12 Diabetic Association diet which is a normal diet of
26:15 meat and milk, eggs, cheese, and then plant foods.
26:19 But you have to eat very little servings. You know, a little bit
26:21 of meat, a little bit of cheese,
26:23 a little bit of bread, a little bit of veggies.
26:25 And so you end your meal and you're probably not full.
26:27 Well does anybody like to finish a meal where you've not
26:29 had enough? I don't! NO! I sure don't.
26:32 We don't. But the plant-based diet:
26:35 they were told they could eat what's called at libitum ...
26:37 which means as much as you want.
26:39 They could eat till they were comfortably full
26:41 at meal time. And at the end of the study you think
26:44 "Yeah, those other people: they got meat. They must have
26:46 enjoyed it more. " Right? So they asked them:
26:48 "Did you feel restricted on the diet? "
26:51 And actually the meat-based eaters disliked their meals
26:54 better than the people who were eating the plant-based foods
26:57 because everybody wants to finish the meal
26:59 where you're comfortably full.
27:01 And yet you would still lose weight actually eating
27:03 till you're comfortably full 'cause there's less calories
27:05 in that food than there are in these heavy foods.
27:08 And so it's not as if it's a torture for the rest of your
27:11 life. You actually can begin, over time,
27:14 to learn to enjoy it more than before.
27:16 So not only does it have that cognitive benefit
27:18 reversing depression but it also is something you begin to
27:22 enjoy. And thinking about that
27:25 Fadia, maybe you could tell us a little bit about the study
27:28 on the Cesarean sections. Maybe how this impacts - OK -
27:32 the gut/brain connection.
27:34 So when the child is in the womb
27:37 they're mostly in a sterile environment, right?
27:40 And when they come through the birth canal
27:43 is when they're inoculated with the bacteria from mother.
27:46 Right? This is when they're introduced.
27:49 And you know, it's a traumatic experience.
27:52 But they are really getting as they're going through that
27:55 birth canal they're getting inoculated.
27:57 They're getting the bacteria that they need to live
27:59 outside the womb because 2/3 of your immune system
28:03 is found in your gut.
28:04 So it's very important that you have the bacteria that you need
28:08 for a healthy immune system, right?
28:10 And so that's why you need... When you come out of that
28:12 womb you need all of that bacteria coming from mother.
28:16 And what they found is children who have
28:20 had C-section babies - Cesarean section -
28:23 when they come out they don't go through the womb
28:25 and so the first thing that they're inoculated with
28:29 is the gloves of the doctor, right?
28:31 Or the hospital. Or the hospital, and Chad was
28:33 actually a C-section baby himself.
28:35 And what they're finding is... They did a long
28:39 like 35-year study of over 2 million babies.
28:45 That's a lot of people.
28:47 And what they found that statistically
28:50 that C-section babies have a higher rate of disease.
28:53 And it makes sense. High rates of allergies,
28:57 asthma, bowel disorders, rheumatism, leukemia.
29:01 So higher disease rates of... Some things are significant
29:04 like leukemia, and some are just annoying.
29:07 I mean, allergies. Well although asthma could be
29:09 worse than annoying... it could be deadly potentially.
29:12 But what is one of the factors they think why? Why does it
29:15 happen? So they think it's because... When they're doing
29:19 a study now where they're swabbing the mother
29:21 and then all the crevices and everywhere they can
29:26 they inoculate the baby so that they can get some bacteria
29:30 from the mom. And what they're finding is
29:32 that the good gut bacteria
29:35 helps you create a good microbiome
29:39 so that you can fight off diseases and things like that.
29:42 Because 2/3 of your immune system is found in your gut.
29:45 And so somehow the lack of good gut bacteria
29:48 is affecting not only mental illnesses
29:52 but then also physical ailments
29:55 like he mentioned: all the allergies and leukemia
29:58 and things like that. So it's important
30:02 that we make sure that children have good gut bacteria.
30:06 'Cause now they're finding that
30:09 children who have temper tantrums actually - toddlers,
30:12 the young children -
30:14 they're finding that they have less diversity
30:17 of good gut bacteria. Interesting! Yes.
30:20 And so if they had a better diversity of good gut bacteria
30:24 they were more social and out- going. Had less temper tantrums.
30:28 And now that we've discovered this - Chad and I -
30:31 when we see a 3-year-old come up to us and shake our hand
30:35 and say hello and talk to us like: "You've got a good gut. "
30:38 Yes! We say: "Wow! That kid's got good gut bacteria. "
30:42 It's like our new thing once we become aware of it.
30:46 And for sure, when Chad was going through the things
30:49 that he was going through he was forced because of
30:52 the work he was doing to be social
30:54 but it physically was wearing him out.
30:58 Like let's say he would speak for the day
31:00 and then socialize with people. By the end of the day
31:02 he was wiped out... he was done. Um-hmm.
31:05 Social activity was overwhelming for him.
31:08 But once he got his gut bacteria... It changed my life!
31:12 I mean, it really, really... Now it doesn't... it doesn't
31:15 tire me out to spend all day every day with people.
31:18 Meaning it literally changed, you know, reversing depression,
31:23 reversing so much of the anxiety... social anxiety.
31:27 It was just... it literally changed my life.
31:29 It's like being almost a new person. Right, and he used to
31:31 call himself an introvert and then realize: "Wow!
31:34 it was mostly due to my gut that I was an introvert. "
31:37 I don't feel that way anymore.
31:39 It's been such a... I would have never known
31:42 that it could make such a significant impact
31:44 unless I had gone through it myself.
31:46 And he used to also identify himself as having
31:49 and addictive behavior. Right? Addictive personality.
31:53 You know, people like: I had been a heavy drinker,
31:55 smoker, and so forth and there were certain things
31:58 I never tried because I thought: "I don't want to
32:00 because I know whatever I do I'm prone to get addicted to. "
32:03 You know, this is before giving my life to the Lord.
32:05 And... But even after giving my life to the Lord
32:07 I still felt like I had an addictive personality
32:11 until the changes that took place in the gut
32:14 actually began to really change my mental health too. Yeah.
32:18 That's amazing! It really is.
32:20 One of the things I was just thinking about
32:23 was so they... Fadia mentioned that even children
32:26 with less diversity of gut bacteria
32:29 are more cranky, more social, have more temper tantrums.
32:32 Antisocial. Antisocial.
32:34 And the children who have a greater diversity
32:36 of gut bacteria are more social, more outgoing.
32:39 And so the question is: "Well how can we get
32:42 a greater diversity of gut bacteria? "
32:44 I've just got a little comment I want to make if you don't mind.
32:48 The impact on children
32:53 if they've been on medications
32:56 to their gut bacteria? Yes.
32:59 Has there been anything researched on that?
33:02 And also when I've read about the gut bacteria
33:06 people often know them as probiotics. Yep, yep.
33:11 That there are different probiotics for different parts
33:15 of your health and there are certain ones
33:18 that are very good for depression. Others are good for
33:21 anxiety and stress.
33:24 There are some that are very good for building your
33:26 immune system. Some actually lower your LDL.
33:30 Some are good for metabolizing fat.
33:34 And all these different things. They're finding out
33:36 all the different microbes have a different job within the body
33:39 to keep you well. But anyway... medication?
33:42 So the medication... they have done a study
33:44 specifically in Israel looking at... I love scientific studies.
33:48 And Israel's great for doing medical research.
33:50 Yes, I believe so.
33:53 Long story short: so they did one study
33:56 on antibiotics specifically.
33:58 And antibiotics - antibiotics - just the word -
34:02 it basically means anti. They're killing something, right?
34:05 And they kill bacteria specifically.
34:08 And once again so as they... We know
34:12 the research shows that as it kills bacteria
34:14 it changes the bacterial make-up of your body
34:18 and your gut specifically.
34:20 And so what they found is that for every round
34:22 of antibiotics - and what I mean by round is for every bottle
34:25 that your doctor says: "Take these till they're done"
34:27 that's a round, prescription,
34:29 it increases your chances of depression by about 25%.
34:33 And for every 2 to 5 rounds
34:36 it increases your chances of depression by about 50%.
34:39 So we're not telling people they can never have antibiotics
34:43 but sometimes - and the medical institutions know
34:46 that they're being overprescribed in some cases.
34:48 For... someone may have a viral infection and
34:51 antibiotics don't do anything for virus. They kill bacteria.
34:54 And so people are maybe overusing them.
34:56 And so you could be negatively impacting your mental health.
34:59 And that's what actually happened with me.
35:02 Ultimately I had gut trouble. So did my wife
35:06 and so did another person. We were living in a foreign nation
35:09 and I won't even say where it was.
35:10 So you were trying to get good food. Yes! And there it was
35:14 actually the water. We drank bad water
35:16 and we had two years of stomach trouble.
35:18 And so it was long, drawn-out. Went through depression.
35:22 Went through 8 years of seasonal depression
35:25 and then I got bit by a tick and took some antibiotics.
35:29 A doctor friend said: "Oh, you should take these
35:31 just to make sure you don't get Lyme disease. "
35:33 I took it, and then I went into year-round depression.
35:36 And then the next year I got bit by another tick.
35:38 Took more antibiotics. Continued the year-round depression.
35:41 And I didn't know back then. I didn't know all...
35:44 I didn't know the connections and I didn't realize
35:45 that my depression had stemmed initially from the gut issue
35:49 and it would continue. And then I would have seasonal
35:51 depression. In the Northern Hemisphere
35:54 you get dark in the winter and that's common.
35:56 You get depression. But long story short
36:00 as I began... as my diet began to change
36:04 it began to reverse the depression.
36:07 And once again they said on the video two weeks, right?
36:09 That's exactly what happened in my life.
36:11 I noticed about two weeks into changing my diet...
36:15 I actually saw... actually heard a quotation
36:18 from a little old lady named Ellen White
36:21 and she had mentioned this. She mentions multiple things.
36:25 She talks about if people are depressed or they're anxious
36:27 she talks about adding more fruit to the diet.
36:30 Many people are afraid of fruit. They think it has sugar.
36:32 Strangely enough, when the British Medical Journal
36:34 studied various fruits it shows that almost
36:36 every single kind of fruit lowers your chances of diabetes.
36:39 Does not increase it.
36:40 God made it in the right package.
36:42 Yeah... it's processed sugar that...
36:45 It's when you process it it's that when the change
36:47 takes place. When you remove the fiber from the food
36:50 you increase the concentration of the sugars
36:52 or oils or proteins.
36:55 But you need the fiber within your food for
36:58 the body to utilize it the best.
37:01 Yeah, now Chad, you mentioned you changed your diet.
37:03 I know there'll be a lot of people thinking out there
37:05 "Well what did you do? " Yes!
37:06 What was it exactly? Yes... finish the story.
37:09 I want to hear what happened. So what happened with me
37:11 and I do not suggest people do exactly what I did.
37:14 What I did was a bit extreme.
37:15 It was short-term... I didn't do it forever.
37:17 But I... There is a quotation talking about
37:21 we are coming to the time when recipes for cooking
37:23 will not be needed for God's people will learn
37:27 that "the food God gave Adam in his sinless state
37:30 is the best for keeping the body in a sinless state. "
37:33 That's a quote. And I heard that.
37:35 And I thought: "Well that's strange. The food God gave
37:36 Adam. " And so I thought: "Well, that would probably
37:39 be a lot of fruit, right? So I did something a little
37:41 extreme that I don't suggest everybody do.
37:43 But I literally ate fruit for two weeks
37:46 and two weeks into it my depression began to go away.
37:50 And I noticed I could control... Instead of going over
37:52 and over and over the same guilty, depressed...
37:56 I was trying to make my heart right with God.
37:57 I literally would confess... meaning if I had said something
38:00 about you: "Oh sister, I'm sorry for what I said. "
38:02 I literally was trying to make my heart right.
38:04 I gave thousands of dollars away to try to make right
38:06 some wrong from the past and doing anything I could...
38:09 but nothing would give any peace.
38:11 And he kept thinking it was a spiritual problem.
38:14 It was a spiritual problem and trying to fix that.
38:16 And I mean he was being faith- ful. He was doing everything
38:19 right. He was even living a healthy lifestyle
38:23 compared to what he had in the past. Yes.
38:25 And yet still... Exercising every day.
38:28 Getting out in the sunlight. Drinking adequate amounts
38:30 of water... I was doing all those things.
38:32 But as I began to change my diet within two weeks
38:35 the changes began to take place.
38:36 And here's the thing... So the question is:
38:38 "Why? Why did it work? "
38:40 So I began to eat this for two weeks
38:41 and the depression began to go away.
38:43 And I still eat a lot of fruit. I don't just eat fruit.
38:45 I eat fruits and vegetables, nuts, grains,
38:47 all of these things today.
38:49 So I eat a diversity of plant-based foods.
38:51 And so as I get... We suggest that people...
38:55 There's a quotation also in Counsels on Diets & Foods
38:58 where it says: "In many cases of sickness
39:00 the very best remedy is for the patient to fast
39:03 for a meal or two. " Not a week or two.
39:05 A meal or two. One day of a meal or two.
39:07 "that the overworked organs of digestion may have
39:10 an opportunity to rest. "
39:11 And then it says: "And then a fruit diet
39:14 for a few days. "
39:16 I don't know two, three, four... it's up to you.
39:18 You know, no pressure.
39:20 "A fruit diet for a few days has often brought great relief
39:22 to brain workers. " And then it says:
39:24 "and abstemious, or a simple diet, for a couple of months...
39:28 for a month or two has often brought great relief
39:32 to brain workers. " And so we suggest
39:35 that people do it as long as I did.
39:36 It was quite extreme, but if they do something
39:39 very simple... Let your gut rest.
39:41 Eat fruit for a few days.
39:43 And you can eat plenty at your meals and then begin to add
39:46 back the grains if you don't have celiac
39:49 disease you can have wheat. Vegetables. Exactly.
39:52 And the vegetables and the nuts and so forth.
39:54 And so the question is: "Why did it work though? "
39:57 I mean, OK, I did it but what research has shown
40:00 is there's something called the Bulgarian Journal of Plant
40:02 Physiology, and what they found
40:04 was that there's animal neurotransmitter substances
40:09 found in plants. We can make it simple and say
40:11 "Brain chemicals are found in plants. "
40:15 So the good chemicals you need for your health
40:18 and happiness are actually found in plants.
40:20 So as you eat the plants you get that.
40:22 There's a secondary issue when it comes to bacteria, right?
40:25 So what they found is an apple
40:27 has its own bacterial make-up: various different microbes
40:30 on the apple. Then you take a pear,
40:33 and a pear may have some similar but it will have different
40:35 bacteria from the apple.
40:36 And if you go into a plum you'll find different there.
40:39 And a potato or a sweet potato...
40:41 A variety? So variety. So if you just eat one
40:43 you only get the bacterial make-up there,
40:45 but if you eat a diversity of plant-based foods
40:49 what it does is it feeds what's called the microbiome:
40:52 the bacteria within our guts.
40:54 And as we eat that it increases the amount of...
40:57 of good bacteria. And one of the things that it does
41:00 is it lowers inflammation in the body.
41:03 And depression is actually often an inflammatory disease.
41:08 We have inflammation with the body,
41:09 achy joints, and various health issues with it.
41:13 So doing this you get the greater diversity.
41:16 So the two ways that people get gut bacteria...
41:19 two of the ways I should say... there's actually more
41:21 but two of the ways they get it are number one:
41:23 from a diversity of plant-based foods.
41:25 And that's the safest way to get it.
41:27 That's the safest way. The other option is
41:29 taking the probiotics. At least one study has found
41:33 there's a potential danger, and so what's best is if you
41:36 can get it once again in the whole form.
41:38 But if somebody really needs to, there can be cases
41:41 to also take it in a pill-type form
41:43 where they have various strains of bacteria
41:46 that can help you potentially digest better
41:49 and these kinds of things. And so
41:51 it goes back to what the Bible says in Genesis.
41:54 You know, the Bible says in Genesis chapter 1:29 it says:
41:57 "And God said: 'Behold, I have given you
41:59 every herb bearing seed which is on the face of all the earth
42:02 and every tree in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding
42:06 seed. To you it shall be for food. ' "
42:09 Right? Meaning God gave these plant-based foods.
42:12 And it was in the Garden of? Eden. Eden, right?
42:14 The word in the Hebrew means pleasure.
42:17 So it was the garden of pleasure.
42:18 So their home was to bring them happiness.
42:20 The work they did was to bring them happiness.
42:23 But even their food was to bring pleasure.
42:25 So if you were thinking from a Biblical standpoint
42:27 you'd think: "That would probably mean that the food
42:30 God gave Adam and Eve
42:32 would bring about the highest levels of pleasure in life. "
42:35 And this is what research now shows us.
42:38 And when it talks about the tree with the
42:41 seed bearing fruit, well that means... that's what we
42:45 think of as fruit today:
42:47 the thing that's got the seed in it - yes -
42:49 Inside - that's right - or you know like strawberries...
42:53 they've got the seed around them. Right.
42:55 But it's the same thing... it's the seed is there.
42:57 Yes. Whereas vegetables don't have
43:00 the seed in them. That's right; that's right.
43:02 So there's things that we would typically standardly
43:04 in a standard way we would think certain things are vegetables.
43:07 We eat them like a vegetable. Like a tomato.
43:08 Yeah, because it's not real sweet compared to you know
43:12 a pear. And you don't have them for dessert normally.
43:14 I like the thought of diversity of all this fruit. Yes!
43:18 So if you live in different parts of the world
43:20 you discover different fruits.
43:21 And one of those is durian and I LOVE durian.
43:24 I do too! Oh, wonderful! Wow!
43:26 No... not here, no.
43:28 Got those mango seeds and all those things.
43:30 How could you improve on that really in your kitchen
43:34 to be able to get a mango, you know?
43:37 There's a mango in Thailand called nam doc mai
43:39 which means nectar of flower.
43:41 When you slice that it just dissolves in your mouth. Oh!
43:44 How can you make anything like that?
43:46 And the custard apples in Thailand and the pears...
43:48 The thing is you think of all this diversity
43:51 in the food that God gave to bring pleasure
43:54 it's not some bitter root that nobody likes.
43:57 No! It's the food that we all naturally like
44:00 but maybe just don't eat enough of, right?
44:01 And we wish we had the trees in our garden! Yes!
44:03 Right! And so that's some of the... like even in Australia
44:07 the University of Queensland did a study
44:09 and they titled an article on it that
44:11 fruit is a depression buster for women.
44:14 Meaning what they found is women who consume more
44:16 fruit have lower levels of depression.
44:18 So we don't have to worry so much about the sugar in it -
44:21 especially if we're not diabetic or whatever - but
44:23 in general even if we are diabetic it lowers level
44:26 of diabetes but it brings happiness along with it
44:29 and that's one of the great blessings.
44:31 That is... it's true. So going back to medication -
44:34 um-hmm - because I've had a lot of different
44:37 antibiotics through my life for different reasons.
44:41 And some people have had to have stronger drugs -
44:44 yes - for... a lot of it is acute. Yes.
44:48 There's nothing you can do. I mean, like I had my appendix
44:50 rupture. I needed to have two types of antibiotics
44:53 for that to keep me from peritonitis. Yes.
44:55 And so sometimes it's not some- thing you can do anything about.
44:59 It's not that you've got a predisposition
45:01 with a health problem - yes - that you've gotta take
45:03 medication for you diabetes, your high blood pressure,
45:06 whatever. It can be an acute situation
45:09 and so you've gotta take medication. But any medication
45:12 really can mess up your gut. Yeah, it's true.
45:15 And so you've really got to get into something
45:17 I would say probably do something radical
45:21 in some cases - that's right - to try and get your gut
45:24 functioning properly again because of the effects
45:28 that will be long term let alone short term with medication.
45:31 And so options are potential things like you mentioned
45:34 probiotics. Another is yogurt... which
45:38 you can even buy plant-based yogurt if you would like to
45:41 do that where they have strains of bacteria in there.
45:44 And once again, eating and maybe even eating simple
45:47 for a while: maybe more of the fresh fruit
45:49 and these things so you can get that diversity of gut bacteria.
45:53 And you know, it changed my life as I did it.
45:56 My depression went away; social anxiety went away.
45:59 My joint pain went away; migraines went away.
46:02 I mean I could just go on and on literally.
46:04 I mean it's almost unbelievable how much it changed.
46:07 But they did something in the United States in a prison.
46:12 There was a SDA business- man who started a prison.
46:14 And he got a contract with the government of California
46:18 called the CDC: the California Department of Corrections.
46:21 And what they did was he decided they would make
46:24 two sides to the prison. He's a multi-millionaire
46:27 successful man but he wanted to actually help these people.
46:29 So one side of the prison would be on a plant-based diet,
46:32 no animal foods, and the other side would be a meat-based side.
46:36 And so they gave the people the opportunity to choose
46:39 which side they would go on. And one of the government workers
46:42 said: "No way... no way!
46:44 These guys would rather burn the place to the ground
46:47 than become vegan. "
46:50 But they gave them the opportunity
46:52 because as Adventists we don't believe that people force people
46:55 to... You shouldn't force people to follow God.
46:57 You shouldn't force people to eat healthy.
46:59 God gives us choice, and that's all throughout Scripture.
47:02 "Choose you this day, " right? It's not about force.
47:05 And I don't think anybody should be forced into this.
47:07 It should be willingly. So they gave them the choice.
47:10 And you imagine well what percentage of these gangbangers,
47:13 these thugs, these hardened criminals
47:15 would choose willingly to go vegan?
47:17 So what do you think? What percentage do you think?
47:20 Not very high. I think a lot!
47:21 One says not many, one says... I think a lot.
47:24 85% of them chose to go vegan.
47:26 Yeah, that's what I thought! Isn't that amazing?
47:28 And my thought is: "Well gang members, thugs,
47:31 they're not afraid of looking different. "
47:33 So they're like: "I don't care what people think about me.
47:35 I'll do it. " And so they chose to do it
47:37 'cause they thought: "Well maybe it will help me. "
47:39 Listen to what happened. So this prison
47:41 as it was running at that time in California
47:45 the recidivism rate... which recidivism is the statistical
47:49 rate at which if you go to prison one time
47:51 when you get out of prison what's the statistical rate
47:54 at which you will commit another crime and go back to prison.
47:57 Well at that time... So while this SDA businessman
48:01 was running this prison the rate as they went on a total
48:04 plant-based diet... There were also Bible studies
48:06 and other things, but all prisons in America have Bible
48:09 studies. You have the opportunity for it anyway.
48:12 And so in this prison the recidivism rate
48:14 at that time in California was 95%.
48:17 Meaning if you went to prison once there was a 95% chance -
48:20 that's high! when you got out you'd commit
48:22 a crime again and go back. Another felony!
48:23 So that's not very much of a correctional facility!
48:27 You know how we call our prisons correctional facilities.
48:29 They're just like hotels! Yeah, exactly.
48:32 Or teaching you how to be a criminal even more, right?
48:35 Yes. And so the recidivism rate
48:38 dropped from 95% to 2%. You're kidding! Two percent.
48:44 In that prison. In that prison, and so
48:46 other prisons began to be interested in California.
48:48 So the idea began to spread; people wanted to know about...
48:52 more about it. And so what ended up happening
48:54 we were told by one of the people that was working there -
48:57 we interviewed him - and what happened was
49:00 they realized if this continued they could potentially shut down
49:04 90% of the prisons in California. Oh my!
49:06 Wouldn't that be incredible? People would be out of a job!
49:08 So you know what they did? They shut this prison down
49:12 because prisons are big business
49:15 and you can't allow... You need repeat customers
49:18 for good business, right? That's right. And so this place
49:21 ended up being shut down. It's absolutely sad because
49:26 you think: this could have changed the world.
49:27 I mean, America has the highest incarceration rate
49:29 on the planet. And so back to the point
49:33 of what are we talking about. The gut/brain connection.
49:35 Now could it be... and we're actually told...
49:39 we're told in one of these old books once again
49:42 we're told that one of the great reasons for crime
49:46 and wretchedness in our world today is what?
49:50 Our stomachs. How we eat.
49:53 Intemperance in diet. And this is exactly what we see.
49:57 When you change the diet of these criminals
49:58 they become upstanding citizens.
50:01 You think: "Could it be? Could the gut/brain connection? "
50:03 And there's more to it. There's so many more things
50:05 we could share, but obviously... They had the opportunity
50:08 for Bible studies, to learn about God. That's right.
50:10 To change their lives - yeah - exercise
50:12 through God as well as through their diet.
50:15 It's interesting Chad and Fadia, when you go into a supermarket
50:18 store what's there at the front? It's always there at the front?
50:22 The closest thing to the checkout is all those foods
50:26 that are not really good for your gut. Yes.
50:30 Refined junk foods. That's right. Yes.
50:33 And many of them are plant-based, but once again
50:35 they're refined. Highly processed. That's right.
50:37 The plant in its whole form has the great beneficial
50:40 health effects, but once you take away the fiber,
50:43 you take away protein, you take away the healthy fat
50:46 and you just have junk basically.
50:48 You know it's very interesting. We did a program
50:51 here and it's available at 3ABN in the online store
50:55 where you can go to a store and buy food
50:59 and it's very interesting. If you want to save
51:01 your grocery bill by something like $2,000 a year
51:05 when you weigh up just taking vegetables and those
51:09 foods that are processed - junk foods - well, you can call
51:12 it processed foods, the weight, what you can live on
51:16 for the weight of vegetables and fruits
51:19 exceeds this a hundred times. Wow! Wow! Incredible!
51:23 It's really really incredible! Saves you a lot of money.
51:25 I'm just going to take a break right now,
51:27 and we're going to look at the address roll for you
51:32 because we're talking with Chad and Fadia Kreuzer
51:36 and they run Anchor Point Films.
51:39 And they have lots of things available there on their website
51:44 including DVDs about the gut/brain connection.
51:49 And so I want to give you the opportunity to write down
51:52 their details and get in touch with them to come and talk.
51:56 To have a look at their website
51:59 so that you can find out what they have there
52:02 in store for you that you can get hold of to help yourself
52:06 and people you know. Here's their details:
52:50 Contact them today.
52:54 I hope you wrote that down because they've got some
52:57 very very good things for you to help your life
53:00 and those you know.
53:02 Now Chad, we want to know where do we start with all of this?
53:06 A great question. Two studies have been conducted:
53:09 one in Britain, one in the United States
53:11 on looking at the quantity of plant-based foods eaten
53:15 meaning how many servings a day of fruits and vegetables.
53:18 And what they found is that for every serving of fruit
53:22 or vegetable that you eat in a day
53:24 the chart shows if you eat zero in a day you're statistically
53:27 at your lowest level of happiness.
53:29 Hmm. But if you eat one it makes a tiny difference.
53:31 If you eat two there's ac- tually a statistical difference
53:35 and it continues to go up until you eat eight pieces
53:37 of fruit or vegetables... servings of fruit or vegetables
53:41 I should say. In a day? You can choose, and what they
53:44 found was that it will not only tell how happy you'll be today
53:48 but it will forecast how happy you'll be tomorrow.
53:51 So if you ate zero yesterday maybe begin to eat 1 or 2 pieces
53:54 of fruits and vegetables today
53:56 and slowly work your way up to that 8 pieces of fruits
53:59 or vegetables in a day or servings of fruits or vegetables
54:02 and you'll find that your mental health, your body, you just
54:05 start feeling better. I won't make this long
54:08 but they also found that alcoholics with lower levels
54:12 of gut diversity - bac- terial diversity in their guts -
54:15 also find it harder. So this affects so many
54:18 different areas of our lives.
54:19 That's going on with the addictive - yes - type of thing
54:22 that you spoke about earlier. That's right.
54:24 And it changed my life as I changed diet, not feeling like
54:26 just this addict all the time.
54:28 We've been talking about the gut/brain connection.
54:31 So important, but what are some of the other things
54:33 that you do? We've got three minutes. Yes.
54:35 So... And I would say one thing that was already stated:
54:38 if you have any interest, contact us. We'd love to come
54:40 and share on more because we have a whole series
54:43 on this at anchorpointfilms.com
54:47 You can contact us there.
54:49 We've got things like Transform Brain, Transform Life
54:52 and that talks about how neuroplasticity changes
54:56 your brain. Fantastic subject! Bible memorization.
54:59 We talk about overcoming habits, addictions.
55:02 Lack of forgiveness... that's our overcoming seminar.
55:04 Of course the gut/brain connection.
55:07 And then also we do one on overcoming diabetes
55:10 because so many people are dealing with that issue today.
55:13 We had a need. My dad died of diabetic complications.
55:17 His dad has come down with diabetes
55:19 and we said: "We need to make one on diabetes. "
55:21 And so we have done that as well, and we've shared that
55:24 around and it really transforms people's lives
55:26 in short order. It's amazing. We had a man come with
55:29 what's called neuropathy. You can go numb in your feet
55:32 or you have pains like razor blades in your feet
55:35 all the time. We had an 80-year-old man. He's 80.
55:37 You know, there's not much hope. No!
55:39 He began to implement the things coming to our seminar.
55:42 With two weeks... Actually within 3 days the neuropathy
55:45 began to go away and within 2-1/2 weeks
55:48 it was 99% gone he told us.
55:50 99%! He was depressed; walking with a cane
55:54 the first day he came into the seminar.
55:56 And within 2 weeks no more cane.
55:57 He's walking without a cane; he's smiling. Yes!
56:00 He's teaching, and he was even... after doing this for
56:03 a couple weeks he came and taught people how to eat
56:06 this way himself because he had just learned himself.
56:09 And so you think: "Oh, I'm too old.
56:11 There's no hope for me. "
56:12 But it's not true. Our bodies want to be healthy.
56:16 God made our bodies. The Bible says our bodies
56:18 are "fearfully and wonderfully made. " Oh definitely! Um-hmm.
56:20 And as we implement the simple strategies God gives us
56:24 in His Word... There's a verse in Psalm 103 verse 5
56:27 that says that "God is the One that satisfies our mouth with
56:31 good things so that our youth is renewed like the eagle's. "
56:34 And I can tell you... Well, you think: "Well you're still
56:37 young. " I'm 38 years old. I felt better
56:40 as a 38-year-old man than I did when I was
56:43 16 or 18 years old. So God's Word is true.
56:46 "He satisfies our mouth with good things
56:48 so that our youth is renewed like the eagle's. "
56:51 That's right. So what I'm thinking of
56:54 is the information that you gain and when you put it into
56:57 practice these are the results. And you can have those
57:00 same results. Yes! And wouldn't you want to have
57:04 a brain that is functioning "righter? " Absolutely!
57:08 It's easier to remember things. Yes.
57:11 It is not growing old with Alzheimer's or dementia.
57:15 Yes! And it's just staying healthy and strong
57:18 the way that God wanted it to be. And you can have a closer
57:21 relationship with God as you eat the right food.
57:25 As your gut is healthy you actually can worship God
57:29 better and relate to Him better.
57:31 And that is what God wants more than anything.
57:34 Chad and Fadia, thank you so much for being with us.
57:38 We have really enjoyed this as much as we did last time
57:40 we spoke with you.
57:42 Meanwhile we pray that God will bless you
57:44 and keep you until we meet you again.


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