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00:15 This is 3ABN Now
00:17 with John and Rosemary Malkiewycz. 00:21 Hello and welcome to the program today. 00:24 I'm really looking forward to what we've going to talk about 00:26 aren't you? Yes, I am certainly looking forward 00:29 because it's something that each one of us, if we take away 00:32 and practice it in our lives will actually impact our lives 00:36 and change us. Yes. We're going to talk about 00:38 something that is cutting edge, new stuff that they're learning 00:42 in medicine. And it is something that everybody needs to know 00:46 to keep good health. And it is God's way of doing it. 00:49 It's proving that what God says is true 00:53 about what we should be eating. And our guest today 00:56 is a medical practitioner from Melbourne. 00:58 It's Dr. Coralia Jigau 01:01 and we are so pleased that you are with us today. 01:03 Thank you so much. We look forward to 01:05 listening to what you have to share with us 01:08 and with the viewers and the listeners of 3ABN 01:11 around the world because this can mean the difference 01:14 between dying of some disease or you know some ill health 01:19 or being chronically ill 01:22 and being well. Isn't that right? 01:25 It's making a very big dif- ference between living healthy 01:28 or being just there. Yeah... being just there! 01:32 You know what? You're right... because everybody 01:34 desires to be happy. And if you're healthy 01:38 your happiness increases. So it's a win/win 01:41 so listen to what has to be said. 01:43 But before we get to find out a little bit about Dr. Coralia 01:46 we're going to look at a text in the Bible that she's chosen. 01:50 It's found in Psalm 145:3-5. 01:54 The Bible says: "Great is the Lord 01:56 and greatly to be praised. 01:58 And His greatness is unsearchable. 02:02 One generation shall praise Thy works to another 02:05 and shall declare Thy mighty acts. 02:08 I will speak of the glorious honor of Thy majesty 02:12 and of Thy wondrous works. " 02:15 Incredible God that we have, isn't it? 02:18 Absolutely incredible. 02:20 In science they need to search 40 years 02:24 to discover something which is already in the Bible. 02:27 It is fascinating. 02:29 Something that God created 6,000 years ago. 02:33 You know, when we discover what God... 02:36 when we personally discover what God is telling us 02:41 it's so fantastic because it really does change your life. 02:45 And the Word of God is full of information 02:48 that if we only took time to discover 02:50 we would find that - YOU would find - that God is offering 02:54 to you eternal life. 02:55 Not to live on this earth once and just die and pass away 02:58 but you can live eternally with Him. 03:01 But we can live it happily on this earth if we follow 03:04 these principles. So Dr. Coralia, before we 03:07 discuss medicine I want to discuss your background. 03:12 Let our viewers and listeners know 03:15 where you come from, how you came to what you're doing today. 03:19 Where were you born? I been born in Romania. 03:22 In Romania! And we lived there until 03:28 1987- um-hmm - when we arrived in Australia. 03:32 So you did all your schooling there? 03:34 We did our university there and we arrived here in '87 03:39 without speaking any English. 03:40 So I have to start again with the English 03:43 and going through my medical exam. 03:46 And by God's grace 03:49 I pass my AMA exam in '89 03:52 and I started working in Australia in January 1990. 03:57 So did you grow up in a Christian home? 04:00 Yes, I grew up in a Christian home 04:02 and I am third generation Seventh-day Adventist - OK - 04:05 and a medical doctor. Um-hmm. 04:08 And I did not know my health message 04:11 as I was supposed to know until twelve years ago 04:14 when a disaster struck our family. 04:17 So the SDA church has a specific understanding 04:20 about health and the way God wants us to live. 04:22 Is that right? It is absolutely right 04:25 but the problem is being in the profession, 04:28 being a SDA and I thought I was doing everything right. 04:32 Um, I did not have an idea. 04:35 I had eyes and I could not see - 04:37 umm - until my husband got prostate cancer. 04:41 HMM. And he's also a medical practitioner? 04:44 And he's also a medical doctor. 04:45 And 12 years ago this happened 04:48 and we've been completely shocked. And we said: 04:52 "What's wrong? What we are doing wrong? " 04:55 Um-hmm. "Because, you know, we are Seventh-day Adventist 04:58 and we don't eat this and we don't eat that. " 05:00 What were you eating? 05:02 We were eating a little bit of, like everybody, 05:05 a bit of meat but not a lot. Probably once a month 05:09 or something. But that was not our big problem. 05:12 We did not have any idea how much wrong stuff we were eating. 05:17 One of our favorite foods in Romania was French potatoes. 05:21 I don't know if you know what it is about. 05:23 It is a line of potatoes 05:25 and another one of eggs 05:27 and another one of feta. 05:29 And you pour sour cream on top and you bake in the oven. 05:33 Potatoes, eggs, and feta cheese. 05:35 And you put some more potato on top? Yes. 05:37 And then the cream? Yes. You bake... Sour cream? 05:41 Yes, and you bake them in the oven. 05:43 And it's enough cholesterol there, and by the time you 05:45 bake it you have a lot of oxidized cholesterol. 05:50 A lot of advanced glycation 05:52 end products which the body does not know what to do with them. 05:55 They are the substances which are forming 05:58 in the food when the fat and the protein 06:02 and the fat or sugar are mixing together 06:06 and forming some substances which the body doesn't know 06:09 what to do with them. And we did not know! 06:11 Hmm. I got... It tastes good I presume! 06:14 It tastes very good! 06:17 I could imagine being Eastern European, the food that 06:20 the Europeans cook is like that and it tastes real good 06:24 but it's not good for you. 06:26 It's EXTREMELY unhealthy. Yeah. By the age of 42 06:30 I got gallbladder stone. 06:32 That time I did not have any idea my disease 06:36 was directly induced by what I was eating. 06:39 Didn't have any idea. Surprised the doctor. No? 06:43 I said: "This runs in the family. My father had it. " 06:45 But didn't we in the family eat the same? 06:48 Hmm. So I didn't have any idea. 06:52 So God let this disaster to happen 06:56 to open our eyes. And when I started in some nutrition... 07:00 In fact, quite a while ago... This happened in 2000 07:04 when my eldest son, Eliandanes, he 07:08 came and showed me an article from a medical scientist 07:11 and said: "Mom, look what is written here. " 07:13 I said: "What? " It says "actually if you eat a lot of 07:17 milk it's taking calcium OUT of your bone instead. " 07:21 And I remember exactly where I was. 07:24 I was in my husband's clinic. 07:25 And I pick up the article and I said: "Come on! 07:28 What rubbish is that? Don't we know? 07:30 Don't we learn you have to have calcium? 07:34 You have to have all that stuff. What it's doing to your body? " 07:37 And I didn't even read the article. 07:40 Took me another six years 07:45 to open my eyes and to go again to the problem 07:48 and to see how true was that article. 07:50 So science is really confirming a lot of things 07:53 that we misunder... well, we thought we had an understanding 07:58 but it's showing no... the understanding was wrong. 08:01 Definitely. Science is confirming. 08:04 That's why I chose that Bible text 08:06 because it's taking years for the science to confirm. 08:09 In 2016 a Japanese scientist 08:12 had received the Nobel prize for studying what happened 08:18 in the cell when you are fasting. 08:21 It is fascinating! 08:24 It is fascinating how the body cleans its way 08:28 and what happens in the cell and how much more healthy 08:33 you end up by the end of your fasting period. 08:36 And this gentlemen studied 40 years this. 08:40 Hmm! Forty years just to find out what happens in the cell 08:45 when you are fasting and not consuming food. 08:49 Exactly. Forty years! Yes. 08:52 In 2015 we discovered in each of our cells we have 08:58 an immortality gene. Each of our cells has an immortality gene. 09:03 How fascinating is this? 09:05 How proving we've been designed to live forever. 09:09 Interesting! VERY interesting. 09:12 But what is more interesting 09:13 it is that gene is acting only when you are in the intrauterine 09:18 life. When you are born that gene is switched off. 09:22 What do you think happened that gene was switching off? 09:26 Why don't we live forever? 09:29 I try to imagine how many changes 09:32 happened when sin came in the world. 09:35 How many changes... how many switched off genes happened 09:39 in Adam's body when he sinned? 09:43 And exactly the same happens to us every time 09:46 we have wrong choices. It's not only about diet. 09:50 Our health message was presented so badly 09:53 people rejected because it was saying: "Don't have this! 09:57 Don't have that; don't have that. " 09:59 And they don't like. People don't like what to tell 10:01 what... Nobody wants to be told what to like and not. 10:04 And they REALLY didn't like and they said: "No, no, no. " 10:07 But actually our health message is such a blessing. 10:12 If you have eyes to see, it is not a restriction. 10:16 It is interesting how I... In 2014 I went to San Diego 10:22 and I attend my first lifestyle conference in America. 10:25 And Prof. Colin Campbell, he have his first presentation. 10:30 It was 1-1/2 hour presentation. 10:33 I was so impressed with him. He said: 10:36 "Tell the people what lifestyle medicine can be. " 10:39 "Ask them to practice for a little while and they will feel 10:43 so good they will understand what's going on. " 10:46 "Let our medical colleagues know what it is. " 10:50 "Let's see how efficient it is in treating chronic disease. " 10:54 "It is not a treatment only... it is a prevention. 10:57 It is a treatment by inter- vention with lifestyle medicine 11:02 factors. It is because our body is repairing. 11:05 Everything is changing. And whatever you put in your mouth 11:10 it's affecting your body badly. " Hmm! 11:13 I remember Dr. Winston Craig. 11:15 I don't know if you know him. Yeah, I know him. 11:17 But he had a T-shirt that said: "You are what you eat. 11:21 Don't eat dead meat. " Hmm! 11:24 And I thought: "What a great slogan! " 11:28 It is! It's fascinating. We've been deceived by Satan 11:32 with this, and we have to understand our health message 11:36 through the great controversy vision. 11:40 Hmm. Do you think it's every- where else a great controversy 11:44 and it will not be in what we eat every day? 11:47 So it's in every aspect of life. 11:50 In every aspect of life. 11:51 And in health it is a big big impact. 11:56 Satan has his problem there. God designed us to eat 12:01 food alive. Think what it is in a seed. 12:05 It's life! If you put it in the ground it will sprout up. 12:08 Think what happens if you cut an onion 12:12 and use half, leave another half on the table. 12:15 What happens? In the next morning you will see 12:17 it's extending itself... it's growing. It's still alive 12:21 stuff we've been designed to eat. 12:22 And we've chosen to eat what it was not. 12:26 And God gave us direction what we have. 12:29 We have Genesis 1:29. 12:32 He told us exactly what we have to be. 12:35 And the more I study the imp- lication of lifestyle medicine 12:39 on our life I see when we deviate from the design 12:44 what disaster we produce in our body. 12:46 Hmm. Because we understand our body is more than... 12:50 the food is more than vitamins and micronutrients 12:56 and carbs and some protein. It's much more than that. 13:00 Food talks to our genes. 13:03 Food is information for our body. 13:06 This is new science. We did not know this. 13:08 This is quite recent. And it is just when we've been designed 13:14 to eat like that we have to eat like that to be healthy. 13:17 You mentioned before about switching genes off 13:21 and then switching genes on. This is called epigenetics? 13:25 And our food... What you're saying our food has a lot to do 13:31 with that switching on and off - Yes! Exactly - of those genes. 13:34 We can be born with certain genes - yes - 13:37 that we inherit from our parents and our grandparents - yes - 13:41 and there may be genes for a certain... that are precursors 13:44 for a certain illness. Is that correct? That's exactly. 13:47 And our food can switch off those negative genes - 13:51 yes - ones that could cause us a problem? Or switch on. 13:54 And switch on the good ones? The good ones! 13:56 Or if we're eating the wrong food, switch on the bad ones. 14:00 Is that right? That's exactly what happens. 14:02 For example, in diabetes it is confirmed now 14:05 if you have 5 years of diabetes 14:07 they can see exactly what epigenetic changes you have 14:11 in your body. And they are there... well established. 14:14 So what will happen? These epigenetic changes 14:16 will be inherited by your next generation. 14:20 And this is why and so... So what we eat doesn't count 14:24 only on our body. It counts on our children's body 14:27 and our grandchildren's body. 14:29 So what our parents ate? 14:30 What our parents... even what your grand grandparents ate! 14:34 Yes. It's not necessarily... That's through generation 14:37 3rd, 4th generation etc. Yes! 14:39 With the moms it's especially what we know about this 14:43 but we find out now even the dads and the grandparents 14:47 it is important what they eat. 14:49 I read recently an article where they 14:53 have confirmed that a mother severely deficient in vitamin D 14:58 they might have children which later on in life 15:01 will suffer from schizophrenia. 15:04 How terrible is that? 15:05 Hmm! Hmm! 15:07 How cheap is to have sun exposure 15:11 and people are not using it. 15:13 We are supposed to stay in the sun at least 1/2 hour. 15:16 And we work hard... we don't have time. 15:20 We are busy with our lives. 15:22 And we go a little bit on holiday a bit of sun exposure. 15:27 Sun: it is information to your body. 15:30 Much more than creating just vitamin D... 15:34 just the vitamin D which our skin is creating. 15:37 Much more than that. 15:38 You know, Coralia, when you go to have sun 15:40 you have to go outside. Yes. You have to be in the fresh air. 15:44 Exactly. You're exposing your body to the elements 15:47 or to the necessary things for life. 15:50 Don't do it when you're going to get the impact of burnt skin 15:54 or... No, but... or things like that. You do it at the right 15:57 time of day. It is like with everything: 15:59 you know? You are not designed to stay in the sun all day 16:02 until you are burned. But you are designed to stay 16:04 in the sun 1/2 hour until your skin gets a little bit pinkish. 16:09 And after that put on sunscreen. 16:11 The problem is if you put the sunscreen right away 16:13 your body will not do any vitamin D. 16:16 You know, it is moderation like in everything. 16:18 That's right! In everything is true. 16:21 You know, I think about our God, the Creator. 16:25 And when He made us we are told that we are made 16:27 "fearfully and wonderfully made. " 16:31 And if you think about that, 16:33 if you are a designer and you make something, 16:35 you know what's best to put into it... in that body. 16:38 So He's given us instructions what to do. 16:41 But you know, we all like to experiment and try things. 16:44 But at the end of the day we will suffer for those things 16:48 if we don't adhere to what our Creator said. 16:51 I want to give you an example. You know, I drive a diesel 16:53 Land cruiser, and the designer says you must put diesel in it. 16:58 And I go and put petrol in it. 17:00 What do you think happens to that vehicle? 17:02 It ceases to function. 17:04 But you know, there's something very interesting. 17:06 To make it work again that motor has to be virtually re-built. 17:10 But you know, your body - and Dr. Coralia will agree 17:13 with this - because God has given us a wonderfully and 17:18 fearfully made body it CAN repair itself. 17:21 We don't have to have a broken, faulty engine. 17:24 Yeah. And so it's important that what we're talking about 17:28 here, and it involves a lifestyle. 17:31 I would ask you a question 17:33 and I'm sure that many of our viewers are asking it too: 17:37 what happened with your husband's prostate cancer? 17:42 My husband had radiotherapy 17:45 and by God's grace he is good. 17:49 He attended a lecture 17:52 just after he got prostate cancer. 17:54 He's an expert in prostate cancer now. 17:57 Has a lot of patients. 17:59 And they told him: "When the people have 1.0 cm tumor 18:04 in their prostate they have done bone marrow biopsy 18:10 in the sternum and they find out 18:14 more than 30% of the people they already have 18:17 their cancer spread to the bone marrow 18:21 when it was just 1.0 cm. 18:23 So what is doing the surgery to take the tumor out only? 18:28 Yes! It's already spread. 18:30 My husband had radiotherapy. 18:33 But... if you don't change the lifestyle it will come back. 18:37 No doubt about it. We have a lot of patients 18:40 where their cancer came back in 2 years, 5 years, 10 years 18:43 or so. Dr. Dean Ornish 18:46 he has studied the genes and what genes we can switch off 18:52 which are favorable for prostate cancer. 18:55 And he actually published a study 18:57 in the good medical journals and he said: 19:01 "With lifestyle we can switch on 19:06 about 5,000 genes which are favorable for your body. " 19:11 Hmm. To help your prostate cancer. 19:14 So that's how the body's healing is doing. 19:16 Not through simple things. So my husband by God's grace 19:22 is good now. He does not have any problem which we know. 19:26 But he is very well aware the problem can come back any time. 19:31 Hmm. So this is why we are doing now whatever we know 19:35 we should do to our best and the rest we leave to the Lord. 19:41 Because it's impossible to be completely healthy in the 19:45 environment in which we live now. 19:47 There are so many different factors affecting health... 19:50 not just what you eat. 19:52 But you've got to do what you CAN - yeah - 19:55 to eat the right food and help yourself to stay healthy. 19:59 Exactly. And if you trust the Lord 20:02 it's such a big problem. You trust the Lord... 20:07 be left in His hands. Umm. You do your part 20:12 and whatever the rest depends totally on the Lord. 20:17 There's an acronym called NEWSTART. 20:20 And the N stands for nutrition, 20:23 E stands for exercise, 20:25 W stands for water, 20:27 S is? Sunshine... sunshine. 20:31 T is temperance. Yes. 20:33 Temperance virtually means you control what you really eat 20:37 and how you live temperate... and drink... yeah. 20:39 And all what you do. and R stands for rest. 20:43 And T is trust in God. Now that's a very important 20:46 aspect of the NEWSTART program, and that's really 20:50 a lifestyle, isn't it? When you look at it that's a 20:54 practicing lifestyle. It is, because trust in the Lord 20:58 is decreasing your level of anxiety of stress. 21:01 When you are stressed, when your cortisol level goes up 21:05 in your blood, every cell in your body is stressed. 21:08 So it's not just one or two. Everybody's stressed. 21:13 When you settle everybody comes to normal. 21:16 So the stress hormone is affecting your gut. 21:21 And we know now absolutely new science 21:24 our gut bacteria is doing your health. Umm! 21:29 Talk to us some more about the microbiome. 21:35 What's it mean? 21:37 Microbiome and microbiota. It's a totality of bacteria 21:42 which we have in our large intestine 21:44 which was not offered too much importance until 21:48 about 15, 20 years ago. 21:51 We did not know it is so important for our body 21:53 and actually recently we started realizing 21:57 how extraordinarily important it is. 22:00 It is considered to be a super organ. 22:04 All the bacteria in our large intestine it is considered 22:08 an organ in itself as important as your liver, 22:12 as important as your heart, as important as your brain. 22:16 Actually it is considered to be your second brain 22:19 because the enteric nervous system - 22:22 all the nerves which our gut has - 22:24 it has such big communication with our brain. 22:29 And when I read this first 22:33 I was so shocked that at 90% of your serotonin 22:37 is manufactured by the bacteria in your gut. 22:39 I said: "What? " And I looked again. 22:42 "Am I reading it right? " 22:45 Yes, because our bacteria in our gut 22:48 have an extraordinarily big function in our health. 22:51 And we know now 40% of the bioactive substances 22:55 metabolized which are going through our blood 23:00 they are directly manufactured by our microbes. 23:04 Umm. So these microbes are 23:09 very different from one person to another. 23:12 It depends a lot on your ethnic background, 23:14 depends a lot on what you eat. 23:17 And the good news is: you can change your gut bacteria 23:21 by what you eat and by probiotics. 23:24 It is fascinating, and you CAN improve your health by that. 23:27 We can have bad bacteria and we have good bacteria. 23:32 And if the bad bacteria flourish 23:35 we have a disease state, don't we? 23:38 It's very complicated; it's not so simple like that. 23:41 We have more than 10,000 types of bacteria 23:46 in our gut and we know it's so complicated. 23:49 They don't grow outside of there 23:51 so they need certain type... About half of them 23:54 they don't grow outside so they need a type of 23:57 specific environment where they can grow. 24:01 And depends one on another what they are doing 24:04 and they are talking to our brain. 24:07 It is fascinating! One of the professors in the Univ. of CA 24:12 studied 40 years brain/gut connection. 24:17 And the results which he had: they are fascinating. 24:21 And he said... When I was impressed... 24:25 "We have in our gut receptor for the plant polyphenol. 24:30 And we recognize about 28 of them. 24:32 We know we have receptor for garlic; we have receptor for 24:38 mustard; we have receptor for turmeric; 24:43 we have receptor for... what were the others? Anyway... 24:47 Twenty-eight of them. So they are there. 24:50 So why they are there? Because we are supposed to eat 24:53 the plants as God designed we are to eat. 24:57 It is very interesting but what is even MORE interesting 25:00 we have olfactory receptors in our gut. 25:05 The smell receptors. 25:07 In the gut? In the gut! 25:09 That's why you don't eat durian. 25:11 What they are doing there? We don't know. 25:14 But they are there! But they are there. 25:17 We have 26 types of bitterness receptors. 25:22 Bitter receptors. What they are doing there? 25:25 We don't know yet. Maybe they don't like bitter food. 25:29 We have still to learn a lot. 25:31 This is from his book. It's extraordinary: 25:33 it's Gut-Mind Connection by Prof. Emeran Mayer. 25:36 It's written in his book. Fascinating! 25:39 He has studied so much and he said there is so extraordinary 25:43 connection between the mind. The mind knows everything 25:48 what happens in the gut because it has to direct 25:51 what types of hormones. 25:52 Our guts have about 22 hormones which are doing our digestion. 25:57 Although we don't know anything about them they are there 26:00 in action. And if we put all our eye on the cells 26:06 which are in our gut it is our biggest endocrine organ. 26:12 So it's fascinating. They are working together with our 26:15 immune system, with our brain and it is informed everything. 26:21 He said our brain knows... every millimeter of the brain 26:25 knows what it is in the gut. 26:27 He said: "We don't understand how the brain gets the info 26:31 of the messiness of the gut. He knows how much protein 26:36 is there; how much carbs are there; how much sugar is there 26:39 and everything what you ate today. " 26:41 So I like the way you equated the gut 26:44 to the heart and the other organs in your body. 26:47 Your liver and things like that. 26:49 Because we know if one of them fails what happens? 26:52 You die. We die. So if we understand now 26:54 the gut has the equivalent... you equate it to that 26:57 then the effect must be the same upon the body. 27:00 It's fascinating. I was reading on the Internet 27:04 about some of the different... People may have heard of 27:06 probiotics now because when you have antibiotics you should 27:09 have probiotics to try and counteract the damage 27:14 that the antibiotics will do to your gut. 27:16 But there are so many probiotics I don't know which ones 27:19 you need to have. BUT as I was reading the other day 27:24 different probiotics can impact different parts 27:27 of your health. There are some that interact with the brain 27:32 in a specific way to help with anxiety 27:34 and foggy brain and those sorts of things. 27:38 There are other ones that 27:42 if you don't have enough of these you're more likely to have 27:44 depression. There are some of the probiotics that work with 27:48 your LDL, your cholesterol, to lower those bad LDL's. 27:53 Some work with your immune system 27:55 to help your immune system. 27:57 If you don't have enough of a particular one, 28:00 your immune system will not function properly. 28:03 Some help with IBS - yes - with irritable bowel syndrome. 28:08 They're finding now that it seems that some of them work 28:11 with the metabolism of whether or not you're 28:14 going to lose weight. I read recently an article - 28:17 a recent publication - and it's telling exactly which is going 28:22 to which. Very complicated. Umm! Very complicated 28:25 and they know how it's working. But... 28:31 the research is there telling our gut is considered an organ 28:37 in itself. It is an organ. It is helping with everything 28:41 what we have. It's not just a little bit of... 28:45 Not just a whole lot of intestines. 28:49 Our immune system: we have our gut associated 28:52 with lymphatic tissue which is making 80% 28:56 of the whole body immune system. 28:58 There your immune system is formed. 29:00 So this is why the way you eat is important. 29:04 All the diseases which have immune system problems 29:08 like all the cancers which we have, 29:10 all the autoimmune disease are directly related with our gut. 29:14 And the good news is: they can be repaired. 29:17 Umm! I had a patient of mine - 29:19 extraordinary, very clever lady - 29:22 she had rheumatoid arthritis, 29:25 an acute attack... severe. 29:30 And sent her to the specialist. 29:33 She had all the medication like it was supposed to have. 29:36 She responded very badly to her medication. 29:39 She couldn't take it; she had severe side effects. 29:42 And she started changing her lifestyle because she couldn't 29:45 have... she didn't have any other option. 29:47 Hmm! And she said: "Oh, Coralia, you helped me so much. 29:51 You opened my eyes. " I showed her some of the 29:54 articles and so on, and after that she was doing her own 29:58 research. Today, about three years since this happened 30:05 this lady doesn't take ANY medication. 30:07 She is very careful of what she is doing. 30:10 She worked very hard to repair her leaky gut 30:15 because that's where all the autoimmune starts. 30:18 And she is doing everything what she can 30:21 and she is keeping under perfect control. 30:24 It is fascinating! 30:26 I was fascinated. I never had a patient like that. 30:29 But it's needed so much diligence, 30:31 so much clarity... 30:37 clarity. You have to be clear about the situation. 30:41 You have to understand what happens 30:42 and this lady did. 30:44 And she studied extensively... she regained her health. 30:47 So then it becomes basically your lifestyle... 30:50 you know what to do. It's a completely different lifestyle! 30:54 And she said it is fascinating how ignorant we could be. 30:57 So yeah, I understand that. 30:59 I mean I was so ignorant I did not understand, and 31:02 I have a lot of articles which confirm what I was doing wrong. 31:05 So just tell us: what is leaky gut? 31:07 The leaky gut: it is, you know, our gut lining. 31:13 It is just one type of cells. 31:16 One row of cells which is come one to another. 31:21 And these cells are keeping all together with a certain protein 31:25 which is called zonulin. A lot of recent research 31:28 is doing that is keeping them all together. 31:31 The bacteria normally is not supposed to penetrate 31:35 the gut wall at all. 31:37 And when this happens when you have this type of bad bacteria 31:40 or cell it is some disturbance happens there 31:43 and you have a bit of gap. It's leaking... it's letting 31:48 going out of the gut. It's not supposed to go. Umm! 31:51 And it goes, and the immune system responds to it. 31:54 This is not a substance which has to be there. 31:58 So that's how you trigger the immune system with that. 32:01 So if you go to the base and try to fix this 32:04 your immune system is quieting down again. 32:08 Umm. Umm... so they need to have that? 32:13 You cannot do anything... so 32:16 but you know, our cells... 32:18 in the gut our cells are multiplying every three days. 32:21 So they are changing every three days. 32:23 So as soon as you repair the body... And now we know a lot 32:26 of microbes which are doing this. 32:31 They are doing the substances which are necessary. 32:34 I actually read three days ago an article where it said 32:38 pomegranates and blueberries, they trigger, they feed 32:44 certain types of microbes and those microbes then are doing 32:47 a certain substance which is fixing the leaky gut. 32:50 It's so complicated. Oh! It's fascinating. 32:53 That's nice. Pomegranates and blueberries are good! 32:55 Yeah, they are VERY good. We knew they are very good for 32:58 different things but we start finding out 33:01 how they are working. You know, I'm amazed, Coralia. 33:04 Now that we are understanding how important an organ the gut 33:07 is, you know, it's amazing what men and women 33:12 as human beings do. What they put in their mouth 33:15 to put down in there and still 33:18 they can continue to function. Not to the degree that 33:21 you know, we do. But the ability of the stomach - 33:25 the gut - to handle all that is amazing to me. 33:27 When you think about a person who drinks alcohol 33:31 you know, and you've got that you said that one lining. 33:34 Yes. I mean, what does it do down there? You know? 33:36 It must be incredible the way the Designer God has made us! 33:40 To be able to continue... that in itself is an amazing thing. 33:44 It is. Umm... the damage it would do... 33:48 There are people who have things like fibromyalgia. 33:54 A lot of pain with that! All these diseases 34:00 can be repaired, can be "attenuated" 34:05 if you are really careful. Not everybody's the same. 34:08 We are different; we are just unique. 34:10 We have different genetic background. 34:13 We have different ethnicity; we have different type of food 34:17 and so... but MOST of the problem... 34:19 I mean, the lifestyle medicine climb... it can prevent 34:23 80% of the chronic diseases. 34:26 Eighty percent is quite a number. Um-hmm! 34:28 Especially to fight disease. 34:31 But David Krotz, he was the president of 34:35 American Lifestyle Medicine... he had a book. 34:38 And he just... It is just what the science... 34:43 It could be prevented, but people do not want to change 34:48 their lifestyle. It's easy. 34:50 It's hard to change the way you eat. 34:53 It's not easy. You have to do it gradually. 34:55 They prefer a pill. 34:56 They like the tablet. Take the tablet 34:58 and I take the tablet and I'm OK with that. 35:00 But that's not working. 35:01 Is that where you find most of your patients 35:04 don't really really want to change their lifestyle 35:09 because it's easier to take a pill? 35:11 It's not most of them. It's a hard thing to change. 35:14 But my patients know I am doing lifestyle medicine 35:17 and they know that we have to try to fix this matter first 35:21 and after that, we go to others. 35:24 And... So you go through a process? 35:27 We go through a process. First of all, 35:31 I explain to them the Western diet is extremely 35:36 nutrient depleted. Um-hmm. 35:38 Because Colin Campell has 35:41 the author of China Study. You probably have heard about him. 35:45 He has done a lot of studies and he said: "People 35:50 eating 500 calories from plants 35:52 with 500 calories from animal-based. " 35:56 And he told us exactly what happened. 36:02 I remember because I present it to some of my patients. 36:05 When you have 500 calories from plant based 36:08 and he said equal parts of tomato, lima beans, 36:11 peas, potatoes, and peas 36:16 and it was equal parts from pork, chicken, milk, 36:21 and beef... so let's see what nutrients are in these? 36:26 So when you have 500 calories from plants 36:29 you don't have cholesterol at all. 36:31 There are 137 milligrams of cholesterol in the animal-based. 36:35 You have 4 grams of fats 36:41 in the plant-based. Plant sterols, which are extraordinarily 36:45 good for your body, are helping your gut a lot. 36:49 And you have 39 grams of fat... 36:52 so you already have 9 times more fat than the plant-based. 36:58 But when you go to the fiber 37:00 we don't have any fiber at all. 37:03 In the animal-based? In the animal. 37:05 You have 31 mg. of fiber 37:10 in the plant-based diet. 37:13 Trying to remember it. But let's go further. 37:16 Let's go to vitamin A... Beta Carotene. 37:19 You have there 29,000 37:24 mg. of Beta Carotene - um-hmm - 37:27 and you have in the animal-based 37:31 17. 29,000 versus 17? Yes. 37:37 Hmm. And I don't remember exactly the number 37:39 but I know exactly you have 37:40 62 times more vitamin C. 37:45 Hmm! You have 60 times more vitamin E. 37:52 Now 62 times vitamin B9... folic acid. 37:56 You have 22 times more vitamin E; 37:59 you have 10 times more calcium... magnesium. 38:03 You have twice more calcium; you have 10 times more iron. 38:07 So what can you? Which one would you choose? 38:10 That's what I was thinking. 38:12 You try to imagine if you eat nutrient-depleted today, 38:15 you eat nutrient-depleted tomorrow, 38:19 your body does not have so many nutrients. 38:25 How your body survive? Umm! 38:27 So this is why... Just goes downhill! 38:30 This is why lifestyle medicine works. 38:32 As soon as you supply the body with the nutrients 38:36 and your body has this to use it 38:39 whoo! You likely would not believe it. 38:41 These genes start working; everything repairing 38:45 and start working in your body. 38:46 For the first part I would say the body would be in shock. 38:51 What's going on? 38:54 They said you change your gut microbiomes within 24 hours 38:59 if you change your diet 39:01 going vegetarian or going on meat-based. 39:04 Hmm. Either good or bad. 39:06 Either good or bad. You change right away 39:08 they have studies which are showing: 24 hours. 39:11 And if you stop it, it's taking quite a while 39:14 and it will go back to where you were before. 39:16 So this is why you have maintenance. 39:18 It does not need to eat it for a while. 39:21 Yes, I eat healthy now because I am desperately 39:23 sick and I try to get better. 39:26 And later on you keep going and you... 39:29 Go back? Yeah, go back to what you used to do. 39:32 So Coralia, when you and your husband studied medicine 39:35 that was a traditional medicine, right? 39:37 And you practiced that for how long? 39:38 How many years did you practice traditional medicine? 39:42 So we practiced this until 2012 actually. 39:48 No... 2007... 2007. It was actually traditional 39:53 and I believed in everything what I was doing 39:55 and I tried to do my best. 39:57 I did not know better. 39:59 It has been... It was just by that time when 40:03 the science came showing this and that and that. 40:05 But I did not look at the new science until I was not 40:08 desperate to find out some answers for my husband's 40:11 problem. By traditional medicine we mean 40:14 normal medical doctors with drugs. Yes. 40:18 Not traditional like acupuncture. No, no, no, no. 40:23 It's a medical doctor. Rhino horn and... 40:26 No, it's a medical doctor but 40:28 now we put emphasis on lifestyle medicine. 40:32 So do everything you can. Do a very big change 40:36 with lifestyle medicine because we know food is created by God. 40:40 When we eat it, part of it is information for your body. 40:44 Foods come with synergism. They come with so many 40:47 substances you need and one is magnifying the other one 40:52 and it's working in this way when it's going in the body. 40:55 This is why it is the best if we can eat food 40:59 as God left it. 41:03 Hmm. Minimally processed. 41:05 Because in the time when we start processing the food 41:08 we start denaturing the food. 41:11 So you look more now at prevention than cure 41:15 because if we can focus on the prevention 41:18 through lifestyle medicine then you are less likely 41:21 to need curing. In other words, you put yourself... 41:24 But lifestyle medicine is preventing definitely 41:27 a big preventive, and we use it in intensive life medicine 41:33 in curing people. I mean, not in curing... 41:35 in reversing and getting better. 41:37 And some people are getting better. 41:38 I mean, I have in my clinic a lot of people which 41:41 I have been able to take them off insulin 41:44 and they are working very well on their lifestyle 41:47 and a few tablets 41:49 comparing with having insulin all the time. 41:52 Because until now we thought diabetes is just 41:55 a simple disease. We know it involves muscle, 41:57 liver, and pancreas and we thought it's just not. 42:00 And 3 years ago when I attended the first Australian lifestyle 42:05 medicine - 'cause we have a conference here now - 42:09 it was the American Lifestyle President, Dr. George Guthrie, 42:14 who is a SDA doctor who works in Loma Linda hospital... 42:19 He was the president, and he presented an extraordinary 42:22 lecture on diabetes. And he said now actually we have 8 factors 42:26 of diabetes. It is not only these... 42:29 Our gut is involved; our kidneys are involved; 42:33 our brain is involved as well. 42:35 So it is much much more complicated than we thought. 42:39 So it's a new science. A lot of people do not know. 42:42 I did not know as I said. Twelve years ago 42:45 when I attended a medical lecture and I heard the first time 42:48 the kidneys are involved in diabetes I said: "How come? 42:52 What is kidney doing? " 42:54 So now, yes, kidney is involved in diabetes, too. 42:56 So we have to look at the whole. 42:59 In diabetes if you address only - the fat liver 43:04 is a bigger problem in diabetes. 43:06 Yes, it's fixing some of the problem. 43:08 You have to try to fix all the problem. 43:11 And now there is medication which is addressing the gut 43:14 involvement in diabetes. There is medicine which is 43:17 addressing the kidney involvement in diabetes. 43:21 So, 'tis there. 43:23 So, what sort of? When someone comes to your clinic, 43:26 say they come to you with depression. 43:31 What would you recommend for them? 43:36 Depression is a very big thing. 43:39 Depression is a disease of the twenty-first century 43:44 because what we are eating is so nutrient depleted. 43:47 Our brain is so nutrient- depleted and it cannot function. 43:51 And it goes from generation to generation. 43:54 We are severely depleted on Omega-3. 43:56 I check the Omega-3 index in my patients 44:01 when we have the first blood test. 44:03 And we are 2% 44:08 if we find close to normal what it's supposed to be. 44:12 It is so deficient. 44:15 Omega-3 fats... they are fats which are called 44:19 essential nutrients. We have to have them from food. 44:22 Our body is able to manufacture a lot of substances 44:25 which the body needs, but this one it is not able to. 44:29 You have to have it from food. 44:30 Like vitamin C... you have to have it from food. 44:33 Your body cannot manufacture vitamin C 44:35 so it does not, and it needs a small amount of it. 44:40 And if it did not have, 60% of our brain is fat. 44:46 A lot of the fat in the brain is Omega-3 fat 44:49 involving in the cell membrane 44:52 and it's involving in the neurotransmitters. 44:56 And it is essential. If it's not there, the body 45:00 doesn't know how to work it. 45:01 So I explain to them: "You have to change your lifestyle. 45:05 You have to start eating brain food. " 45:09 And I say: "Just Google brain food and go there. " 45:12 "Eat what the brain needs. " 45:14 And after that I explain to them why they have this. 45:17 If they are on medication, I will leave them on medication 45:19 and see what amount of this. Some of them... they have 45:22 polypharmacy which is doing a disaster. 45:25 I said: "We have to cut some of them. 45:27 Let's try to have a little bit less 45:30 to see how your body is coping with minimum. " 45:33 And as the time is going 45:37 they will see the improvement in their entire body. 45:39 Exercise is absolutely essential in nutrition. 45:42 Sunlight: it is a MUST in nutrition. 45:45 We know exactly what genes are activated. 45:48 And sunlight helps in depression 45:51 because it elevates the "happy" enzymes. 45:56 The remarkable way 45:59 that the sun is working - and especially morning sun - 46:02 exercising, morning sun, 46:06 changing the nutrition. Having water? 46:09 Everything is helping. Water; having a hope 46:12 you can be better. Most of the people they do not have hope. 46:16 They say: "I'm not doing... I'm lost. There's nothing 46:20 which I can do. " And when you tell them: 46:23 "No, there's a lot that you can do" 46:24 and they start building up their hope. 46:27 They see the improvement in themselves. 46:30 Patients are coming 2-3 weeks after they start changing 46:34 their diet and their lifestyle 46:37 and they said: "Wow! I feel so much better! 46:40 I cannot believe it! " So feeling better gives you 46:43 incentive to start doing a bit more change. 46:46 Hmm. Do you find that there are patients who 46:50 after they feel better they go off the? 46:54 Yes absolutely. Do they then regret? Oh yes. 46:57 Yes, I did have patients... I remember I had a patient 47:00 of mine. She had ulcerative colitis 47:03 and she was really bad. And they have a certain test 47:06 where you can see how bad is the inflammation in your gut. 47:09 And her test was 10 times bigger than it was supposed to be. 47:12 I told her change. I showed her data 47:16 and she changed the lifestyle. 47:21 And she came back about two years later 47:25 and she said: "I'm bad again. " 47:27 She said: "I know I was not keeping very well. " 47:31 So I said: "Go back on it; it's not working without it. " 47:35 And with this lady I have her blood test 6 months after 47:39 she started changing her blood pressure. 47:41 And the inflammation marker which is in our gut - 47:44 in her gut - it was back to twice. 47:47 From ten times it was back to twice. 47:50 Hmm. So you can prove it. 47:54 Hmm. Yeah. 47:58 So you always do blood tests for the patients? 48:02 Yeah. What are you checking for? 48:04 I'm checking mainly the nutrients in the body. 48:06 I check the level of cholesterol to see if they have 48:08 diabetes. Liver function; kidney function. 48:12 And I'm checking for lipoprotein A. It is 48:16 a type of bad cholesterol which I learned about in San Diego. 48:20 And the first time I came home and I said: "Let's check 48:24 my husband... see his level of lipoprotein. " 48:26 And I was so shocked. His level was 10 times bigger 48:29 than it is supposed to be. Hmm! 48:30 This is an inherited bad type of cholesterol 48:34 which is actually working in the body much more 48:37 harm than the LDL oxidized LDL cholesterol 48:42 which you know is not good for you. 48:43 And you inherited this. My husband was never 48:49 obese. His cholesterol was perfect all the time 48:52 so he did not expect it. 48:53 So we went further and we checked his coronary artery disease 48:57 and he had 60% blocked coronary artery disease. 49:00 Hmm. So you don't really know, do you? 49:04 So you don't really know because we don't eat whole. 49:07 So this is why the more we study 49:09 the more you realize how little you know 49:13 about our bodies. BUT there are some things you can do 49:16 for relapse. So I recommended him 49:18 to update his vitamin C. You have to have extra vitamin C 49:22 when you have this condition. You have to have 49:25 extra vitamin B3, and we've been able to decrease his 49:30 LDL lipoprotein A from 680 to 135! 49:36 Oh, that's a long way! It is a long way. 49:38 It isn't back to normal. Normal is 75 or less 49:41 but it is much better than he used to be. 49:45 So this is why it's so complicated. It's not a simple 49:49 matter. You can fix the cholesterol with statins. 49:53 So what? You destroy your co-enzyme Q10. 49:57 So it is... have to work together. 50:00 Hmm. So you know, being a medical practitioner now 50:03 for a number of years... You have practiced medicine... 50:07 I know that every doctor is intending to help everyone. 50:10 And so you have now had the opportunity to look at 50:14 what you learned and now what you are discovering 50:16 science is revealing. 50:18 And looking at them both, you being someone who 50:21 talks to patients, which is showing greater success 50:25 in helping the patient? 50:28 It is lifestyle! It is what you put in your mouth 50:31 that what... I don't remember the name of the professor 50:35 who told me. He is a global leader in the science 50:40 in microbiome. He said: "What you put in your mouth 50:43 is the biggest challenge to your gut microbiome 50:48 and to your genes. " Hmm. Hmm. 50:51 So this is why with what we eat we can have 50:54 such a big... have such a big implication 50:58 in our lives. You know, genetics and epigenetics 51:02 have become a major science now. 51:06 Something that they didn't know before. Yes! 51:08 And they're finding that the microbiome and the genetics 51:14 are working hand in hand - yes - in the health of our bodies. 51:17 Each one works together. It's so complicated. 51:21 We try to understand, and as I said, the more you read 51:24 the more you realize how little you know. 51:27 And I thought before: "I know this and I know that 51:31 and I know that" and now I say: "I know so little! " 51:33 I REALLY know so little. 51:35 If somebody's been on antibiotics 51:38 for something, is there a specific type of probiotics 51:43 that they should have? Or does it matter 51:45 which one that they have? 51:46 'Cause I don't know, you know? Antibiotics kill certain... Yes. 51:50 Our medical science is telling us that antibiotics 51:53 are a disaster for our body. 51:56 You need to have them sometimes. They are life-saving sometimes - 52:00 yes - so you need to have. You don't have to be 52:02 narrow-minded and say: "No, I am not having because this 52:05 destroying my gut microbiology" 52:07 because you will die because of pneumonia, you know. 52:09 So you have to be open-minded. 52:12 But a lot of people are taking antibiotics when they shouldn't. 52:16 Hmm. And I have one of my patients 52:18 she once told me... The first time when she came 52:22 to see me: "I had a discussion with a previous patient 52:26 and he was leaving and he slammed the door. " 52:30 And I came out and I said: "Next please. " 52:34 And she said: "Oh, no! What's going on here? " 52:38 And I told her what happened to the previous patient. 52:42 It was a father who came with his daughter. 52:46 And she had a bit of that and a bit of cough 52:50 and a bit of sore throat and a bit of... And she 52:53 presented to have antibiotics. And I explained to him 52:56 "Your daughter has a virus in her. She does not need 52:58 to have... " "NO! NO! NO! She's not getting better 53:00 without antibiotics. You have that. " I said: 53:02 "No, I'm not giving to her. I'll cause harm to her 53:05 if I'll give her antibiotics. " 53:07 And he was VERY disappointed 53:11 because of my approach. 53:13 That is antibiotics. We need to have them sometimes 53:17 but most of the time we don't need to have them. 53:19 And they are causing... They can't help with a viral... 53:22 They cannot help with a virus and they are causing big 53:24 disaster in our gut. And I read an article 53:27 which said it may take up to 6 weeks or even 6 months 53:31 for your gut to repair to the state which it was before. 53:34 But, of course, sometimes we need them. 53:38 But we have to avoid as much as we can them. 53:41 Well right now, before we go any further, 53:44 we are going to give you our address 53:46 and phone number so that you can contact us 53:49 if you want to find out a bit more information about 53:53 Dr. Coralia and her clinic in Melbourne. 53:58 You can contact us if you'd just to let us know 54:01 how you enjoy the programs 54:03 or you'd like to donate to us. Use these details: 54:05 please write them down. 55:02 Thank you for all you do to help us light the world 55:05 with the glory of God's truth. 55:09 We're talking with Dr. Coralia. She has a clinic in 55:12 Melbourne in Victoria. 55:15 And we would encourage you if you want to know a little bit 55:18 about more where you can get treatment 55:21 lifestyle medicine that address is where you can contact us. 55:26 But there's a question that I would like to ask, Coralia. 55:29 And that is: we are suffering now with great chronic disease 55:32 in our society, and what is that attributed to? 55:36 And what would you tell our viewers to stay away from? 55:40 The root of all chronic disease is inflammation. 55:45 The inflammation is triggered directly by the way we eat. 55:49 By the advanced glycation and product in the food we eat. 55:53 Hmm. So change this. You will decrease the inflammation 55:58 level. You can check it in the blood test. 56:01 How simple it is! 56:03 So inflammation can happen in any part of the body? 56:05 We think of inflammation when he hurt ourselves 56:07 or burn ourselves or something like that. 56:10 But it's something that can happen anywhere and trigger 56:12 disease. Is that right? 56:13 When we eat the Western style there is a status of 56:17 low inflammation and chronic inflammation which is not 56:20 supposed to be there. Inflammation is a process which 56:23 is supposed to fix a problem. If you have a wound, 56:26 you know, the body uses the inflammation to heal it 56:29 and that's it. It's end up. 56:31 But when you have chronic inflammation which is there 56:34 all the time it's causing big damage. 56:36 Actually, it's called now metaflamation 56:39 hmm - because of the metabolism it's involving in it. 56:43 So inflammation is there causing all... This is why 56:46 when you fix inflammation you fix diabetes, 56:49 you fix heart disease, you fix rheumatoid arthritis, 56:52 you fix arthritis, you fix even cancer... 56:55 because even the root of the cancer is inflammation. 56:58 That's amazing! You wouldn't... You don't really think of 57:01 inflammation as having such an impact on our body. 57:05 Inflammation is the biggest cause of all chronic diseases. 57:10 I did ask Dr. Coralia a question before we had the address roll 57:14 about if there was a specific probiotic you should have 57:18 after antibiotics. And I asked her again 57:20 before and she said: "No. " 57:22 They are specific. There are lots of studies 57:26 but I am not able to tell you which is which. 57:28 But the ones which are on the market... 57:30 it's quite a billion-dollar market there: probiotics. 57:34 They are quite good. Yes. 57:36 Well I hope you've enjoyed our discussion with Dr. Coralia. 57:39 We've run out of time because there's so much more to say. 57:42 And please: tell other people about it 57:45 and we're glad you joined us. God bless you! |
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