This is 3ABN Now
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with John and
Rosemary Malkiewycz.
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Hello and welcome
to the program today.
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I'm really looking forward to
what we've going to talk about
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aren't you? Yes, I am
certainly looking forward
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because it's something that
each one of us, if we take away
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and practice it in our lives
will actually impact our lives
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and change us. Yes.
We're going to talk about
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something that is cutting edge,
new stuff that they're learning
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in medicine. And it is something
that everybody needs to know
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to keep good health. And
it is God's way of doing it.
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It's proving that
what God says is true
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about what we should be
eating. And our guest today
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is a medical
practitioner from Melbourne.
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It's Dr. Coralia Jigau
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and we are so pleased
that you are with us today.
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Thank you so
much. We look forward to
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listening to what
you have to share with us
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and with the viewers
and the listeners of 3ABN
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around the world because
this can mean the difference
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between dying of some disease
or you know some ill health
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or being chronically ill
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and being well.
Isn't that right?
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It's making a very big dif-
ference between living healthy
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or being just there.
Yeah... being just there!
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You know what? You're
right... because everybody
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desires to be happy.
And if you're healthy
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your happiness
increases. So it's a win/win
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so listen to
what has to be said.
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But before we get to find out
a little bit about Dr. Coralia
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we're going to look at a text
in the Bible that she's chosen.
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It's found in Psalm 145:3-5.
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The Bible says:
"Great is the Lord
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and greatly to be praised.
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And His
greatness is unsearchable.
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One generation shall
praise Thy works to another
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and shall
declare Thy mighty acts.
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I will speak of the
glorious honor of Thy majesty
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and of Thy wondrous works. "
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Incredible God
that we have, isn't it?
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Absolutely incredible.
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In science they
need to search 40 years
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to discover something
which is already in the Bible.
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It is fascinating.
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Something that God
created 6,000 years ago.
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You know, when we
discover what God...
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when we personally
discover what God is telling us
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it's so fantastic because it
really does change your life.
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And the Word of God
is full of information
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that if we only
took time to discover
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we would find that - YOU would
find - that God is offering
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to you eternal life.
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Not to live on this earth
once and just die and pass away
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but you can live
eternally with Him.
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But we can live it happily
on this earth if we follow
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these principles. So
Dr. Coralia, before we
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discuss medicine I want
to discuss your background.
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Let our viewers
and listeners know
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where you come from, how you
came to what you're doing today.
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Where were you born?
I been born in Romania.
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In Romania! And
we lived there until
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1987- um-hmm - when
we arrived in Australia.
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So you did all
your schooling there?
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We did our university
there and we arrived here in '87
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without speaking any English.
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So I have to start
again with the English
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and going
through my medical exam.
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And by God's grace
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I pass my AMA exam in '89
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and I started working in
Australia in January 1990.
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So did you grow up
in a Christian home?
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Yes, I grew up
in a Christian home
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and I am third generation
Seventh-day Adventist - OK -
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and a medical doctor. Um-hmm.
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And I did not
know my health message
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as I was supposed to
know until twelve years ago
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when a disaster
struck our family.
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So the SDA church has
a specific understanding
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about health and the
way God wants us to live.
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Is that right? It
is absolutely right
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but the problem is
being in the profession,
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being a SDA and I thought
I was doing everything right.
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Um, I did not have an idea.
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I had eyes and I could not see -
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umm - until my
husband got prostate cancer.
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HMM. And he's also a
medical practitioner?
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And he's also a medical doctor.
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And 12 years ago this happened
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and we've been
completely shocked. And we said:
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"What's wrong? What
we are doing wrong? "
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Um-hmm. "Because, you know,
we are Seventh-day Adventist
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and we don't eat this
and we don't eat that. "
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What were you eating?
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We were eating a
little bit of, like everybody,
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a bit of meat but not a
lot. Probably once a month
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or something. But that
was not our big problem.
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We did not have any idea how
much wrong stuff we were eating.
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One of our favorite foods
in Romania was French potatoes.
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I don't know if you
know what it is about.
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It is a line of potatoes
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and another one of eggs
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and another one of feta.
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And you pour sour cream on
top and you bake in the oven.
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Potatoes, eggs, and feta cheese.
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And you put some
more potato on top? Yes.
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And then the cream?
Yes. You bake... Sour cream?
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Yes, and you
bake them in the oven.
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And it's enough cholesterol
there, and by the time you
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bake it you have a lot
of oxidized cholesterol.
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A lot of advanced glycation
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end products which the body does
not know what to do with them.
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They are the
substances which are forming
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in the food when
the fat and the protein
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and the fat or
sugar are mixing together
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and forming some substances
which the body doesn't know
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what to do with
them. And we did not know!
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Hmm. I got... It
tastes good I presume!
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It tastes very good!
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I could imagine being
Eastern European, the food that
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the Europeans cook is like
that and it tastes real good
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but it's not good for you.
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It's EXTREMELY unhealthy.
Yeah. By the age of 42
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I got gallbladder stone.
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That time I did not
have any idea my disease
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was directly induced
by what I was eating.
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Didn't have any idea.
Surprised the doctor. No?
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I said: "This runs in the
family. My father had it. "
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But didn't we in
the family eat the same?
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Hmm. So I didn't have any idea.
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So God let this
disaster to happen
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to open our eyes. And when
I started in some nutrition...
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In fact, quite a while
ago... This happened in 2000
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when my eldest
son, Eliandanes, he
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came and showed me an
article from a medical scientist
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and said: "Mom, look
what is written here. "
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I said: "What? " It says
"actually if you eat a lot of
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milk it's taking calcium
OUT of your bone instead. "
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And I remember
exactly where I was.
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I was in my husband's clinic.
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And I pick up the
article and I said: "Come on!
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What rubbish is
that? Don't we know?
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Don't we learn you
have to have calcium?
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You have to have all that stuff.
What it's doing to your body? "
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And I didn't
even read the article.
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Took me another six years
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to open my eyes and to
go again to the problem
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and to see how
true was that article.
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So science is really
confirming a lot of things
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that we misunder... well, we
thought we had an understanding
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but it's showing no...
the understanding was wrong.
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Definitely.
Science is confirming.
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That's why I
chose that Bible text
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because it's taking years
for the science to confirm.
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In 2016 a Japanese scientist
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had received the Nobel
prize for studying what happened
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in the cell
when you are fasting.
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It is fascinating!
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It is fascinating how
the body cleans its way
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and what happens in the
cell and how much more healthy
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you end up by the end
of your fasting period.
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And this gentlemen
studied 40 years this.
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Hmm! Forty years just to find
out what happens in the cell
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when you are fasting
and not consuming food.
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Exactly. Forty years! Yes.
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In 2015 we discovered in
each of our cells we have
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an immortality gene. Each of our
cells has an immortality gene.
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How fascinating is this?
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How proving we've been
designed to live forever.
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Interesting! VERY interesting.
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But what is more interesting
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it is that gene is acting only
when you are in the intrauterine
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life. When you are born
that gene is switched off.
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What do you think happened
that gene was switching off?
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Why don't we live forever?
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I try to
imagine how many changes
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happened when sin
came in the world.
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How many changes... how
many switched off genes happened
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in Adam's body when he sinned?
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And exactly the same
happens to us every time
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we have wrong choices.
It's not only about diet.
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Our health message
was presented so badly
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people rejected because it
was saying: "Don't have this!
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Don't have that;
don't have that. "
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And they don't like.
People don't like what to tell
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what... Nobody wants to
be told what to like and not.
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And they REALLY didn't like
and they said: "No, no, no. "
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But actually our health
message is such a blessing.
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If you have eyes to
see, it is not a restriction.
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It is interesting how I...
In 2014 I went to San Diego
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and I attend my first
lifestyle conference in America.
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And Prof. Colin Campbell,
he have his first presentation.
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It was 1-1/2 hour presentation.
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I was so
impressed with him. He said:
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"Tell the people what
lifestyle medicine can be. "
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"Ask them to practice for a
little while and they will feel
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so good they will
understand what's going on. "
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"Let our medical
colleagues know what it is. "
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"Let's see how efficient it is
in treating chronic disease. "
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"It is not a treatment
only... it is a prevention.
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It is a treatment by inter-
vention with lifestyle medicine
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factors. It is
because our body is repairing.
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Everything is changing. And
whatever you put in your mouth
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it's affecting
your body badly. " Hmm!
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I remember Dr. Winston Craig.
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I don't know if you
know him. Yeah, I know him.
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But he had a T-shirt that
said: "You are what you eat.
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Don't eat dead meat. " Hmm!
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And I thought:
"What a great slogan! "
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It is! It's fascinating.
We've been deceived by Satan
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with this, and we have to
understand our health message
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through the great
controversy vision.
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Hmm. Do you think it's every-
where else a great controversy
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and it will not be in
what we eat every day?
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So it's in every aspect of life.
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In every aspect of life.
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And in health it
is a big big impact.
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Satan has his problem
there. God designed us to eat
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food alive. Think
what it is in a seed.
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It's life! If you put it in
the ground it will sprout up.
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Think what happens
if you cut an onion
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and use half, leave
another half on the table.
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What happens? In the
next morning you will see
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it's extending itself...
it's growing. It's still alive
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stuff we've
been designed to eat.
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And we've chosen to
eat what it was not.
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And God gave us
direction what we have.
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We have Genesis 1:29.
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He told us exactly
what we have to be.
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And the more I study the imp-
lication of lifestyle medicine
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on our life I see when
we deviate from the design
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what disaster we
produce in our body.
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Hmm. Because we understand
our body is more than...
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the food is more than
vitamins and micronutrients
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and carbs and some protein.
It's much more than that.
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Food talks to our genes.
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Food is
information for our body.
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This is new science.
We did not know this.
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This is quite recent. And it
is just when we've been designed
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to eat like that we have to
eat like that to be healthy.
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You mentioned before
about switching genes off
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and then switching genes
on. This is called epigenetics?
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And our food... What you're
saying our food has a lot to do
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with that switching on and off
- Yes! Exactly - of those genes.
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We can be born with
certain genes - yes -
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that we inherit from our parents
and our grandparents - yes -
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and there may be genes for a
certain... that are precursors
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for a certain illness. Is
that correct? That's exactly.
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And our food can switch
off those negative genes -
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yes - ones that could cause
us a problem? Or switch on.
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And switch on the
good ones? The good ones!
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Or if we're eating the wrong
food, switch on the bad ones.
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Is that right?
That's exactly what happens.
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For example, in
diabetes it is confirmed now
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if you have 5 years of diabetes
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they can see exactly what
epigenetic changes you have
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in your body. And they
are there... well established.
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So what will happen?
These epigenetic changes
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will be inherited by
your next generation.
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And this is why and so...
So what we eat doesn't count
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only on our body. It
counts on our children's body
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and our grandchildren's body.
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So what our parents ate?
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What our parents... even what
your grand grandparents ate!
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Yes. It's not necessarily...
That's through generation
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3rd, 4th generation etc. Yes!
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With the moms it's especially
what we know about this
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but we find out now even
the dads and the grandparents
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it is important what they eat.
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I read recently
an article where they
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have confirmed that a mother
severely deficient in vitamin D
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they might have
children which later on in life
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will suffer from schizophrenia.
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How terrible is that?
00:15:04.03\00:15:05.43
Hmm! Hmm!
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How cheap is to
have sun exposure
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and people are not using it.
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We are supposed to stay
in the sun at least 1/2 hour.
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And we work
hard... we don't have time.
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We are busy with our lives.
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And we go a little bit on
holiday a bit of sun exposure.
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Sun: it is
information to your body.
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Much more than
creating just vitamin D...
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just the vitamin D
which our skin is creating.
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Much more than that.
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You know, Coralia,
when you go to have sun
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you have to go outside. Yes.
You have to be in the fresh air.
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Exactly. You're exposing
your body to the elements
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or to the
necessary things for life.
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Don't do it when you're going
to get the impact of burnt skin
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or... No, but... or things like
that. You do it at the right
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time of day. It is
like with everything:
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you know? You are not designed
to stay in the sun all day
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until you are burned.
But you are designed to stay
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in the sun 1/2 hour until your
skin gets a little bit pinkish.
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And after that put on sunscreen.
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The problem is if you
put the sunscreen right away
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your body will
not do any vitamin D.
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You know, it is
moderation like in everything.
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That's right! In
everything is true.
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You know, I think
about our God, the Creator.
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And when He made us we
are told that we are made
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"fearfully and
wonderfully made. "
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And if you think about that,
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if you are a designer
and you make something,
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you know what's best to
put into it... in that body.
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So He's given us
instructions what to do.
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But you know, we all like
to experiment and try things.
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But at the end of the day
we will suffer for those things
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if we don't adhere to
what our Creator said.
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I want to give you an example.
You know, I drive a diesel
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Land cruiser, and the designer
says you must put diesel in it.
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And I go and put petrol in it.
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What do you think
happens to that vehicle?
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It ceases to function.
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But you know, there's
something very interesting.
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To make it work again that motor
has to be virtually re-built.
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But you know, your body -
and Dr. Coralia will agree
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with this - because God
has given us a wonderfully and
00:17:13.96\00:17:17.83
fearfully made body
it CAN repair itself.
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We don't have to have
a broken, faulty engine.
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Yeah. And so it's important
that what we're talking about
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here, and it
involves a lifestyle.
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I would ask you a question
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and I'm sure that many of
our viewers are asking it too:
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what happened with your
husband's prostate cancer?
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My husband had radiotherapy
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and by God's grace he is good.
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He attended a lecture
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just after he
got prostate cancer.
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He's an expert in
prostate cancer now.
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Has a lot of patients.
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And they told him: "When
the people have 1.0 cm tumor
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in their prostate they
have done bone marrow biopsy
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in the sternum and they find out
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more than 30% of the
people they already have
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their cancer
spread to the bone marrow
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when it was just 1.0 cm.
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So what is doing the surgery
to take the tumor out only?
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Yes! It's already spread.
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My husband had radiotherapy.
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But... if you don't change
the lifestyle it will come back.
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No doubt about it. We
have a lot of patients
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where their cancer came back
in 2 years, 5 years, 10 years
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or so. Dr. Dean Ornish
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he has studied the genes
and what genes we can switch off
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which are favorable
for prostate cancer.
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And he actually
published a study
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in the good medical
journals and he said:
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"With lifestyle we can switch on
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about 5,000 genes which
are favorable for your body. "
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Hmm. To help
your prostate cancer.
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So that's how the
body's healing is doing.
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Not through simple things.
So my husband by God's grace
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is good now. He does not
have any problem which we know.
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But he is very well aware the
problem can come back any time.
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Hmm. So this is why we
are doing now whatever we know
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we should do to our best and
the rest we leave to the Lord.
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Because it's impossible to
be completely healthy in the
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environment in
which we live now.
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There are so many different
factors affecting health...
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not just what you eat.
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But you've got to do
what you CAN - yeah -
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to eat the right food and
help yourself to stay healthy.
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Exactly. And if
you trust the Lord
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it's such a big
problem. You trust the Lord...
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be left in His
hands. Umm. You do your part
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and whatever the rest
depends totally on the Lord.
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There's an
acronym called NEWSTART.
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And the N stands for nutrition,
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E stands for exercise,
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W stands for water,
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S is? Sunshine... sunshine.
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T is temperance. Yes.
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Temperance virtually means
you control what you really eat
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and how you live
temperate... and drink... yeah.
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And all what you do.
and R stands for rest.
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And T is trust in God.
Now that's a very important
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aspect of the NEWSTART
program, and that's really
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a lifestyle, isn't it?
When you look at it that's a
00:20:50.85\00:20:53.98
practicing lifestyle. It
is, because trust in the Lord
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is decreasing your
level of anxiety of stress.
00:20:58.32\00:21:01.56
When you are stressed,
when your cortisol level goes up
00:21:01.76\00:21:05.03
in your blood, every
cell in your body is stressed.
00:21:05.23\00:21:08.26
So it's not just one or
two. Everybody's stressed.
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When you settle
everybody comes to normal.
00:21:13.23\00:21:16.54
So the stress hormone
is affecting your gut.
00:21:16.74\00:21:20.98
And we know now
absolutely new science
00:21:21.18\00:21:24.25
our gut bacteria is
doing your health. Umm!
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Talk to us some more
about the microbiome.
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What's it mean?
00:21:35.42\00:21:36.76
Microbiome and microbiota.
It's a totality of bacteria
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which we have in
our large intestine
00:21:42.06\00:21:44.67
which was not offered
too much importance until
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about 15, 20 years ago.
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We did not know it is
so important for our body
00:21:51.07\00:21:53.71
and actually
recently we started realizing
00:21:53.91\00:21:57.35
how
extraordinarily important it is.
00:21:57.55\00:21:59.85
It is considered
to be a super organ.
00:22:00.05\00:22:03.59
All the bacteria in our
large intestine it is considered
00:22:04.19\00:22:08.36
an organ in itself as
important as your liver,
00:22:08.56\00:22:12.46
as important as your heart,
as important as your brain.
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Actually it is considered
to be your second brain
00:22:16.06\00:22:19.27
because the
enteric nervous system -
00:22:19.47\00:22:21.90
all the nerves
which our gut has -
00:22:22.10\00:22:24.31
it has such big
communication with our brain.
00:22:24.51\00:22:29.58
And when I read this first
00:22:29.78\00:22:33.38
I was so shocked that
at 90% of your serotonin
00:22:33.58\00:22:36.99
is manufactured by
the bacteria in your gut.
00:22:37.19\00:22:39.65
I said: "What? "
And I looked again.
00:22:39.85\00:22:42.16
"Am I reading it right? "
00:22:42.36\00:22:45.03
Yes, because our
bacteria in our gut
00:22:45.23\00:22:48.33
have an extraordinarily
big function in our health.
00:22:48.53\00:22:51.50
And we know now 40% of
the bioactive substances
00:22:51.70\00:22:55.60
metabolized which are
going through our blood
00:22:55.80\00:23:00.28
they are directly
manufactured by our microbes.
00:23:00.48\00:23:04.31
Umm. So these microbes are
00:23:04.51\00:23:08.62
very different from
one person to another.
00:23:09.72\00:23:11.92
It depends a lot on
your ethnic background,
00:23:12.12\00:23:14.76
depends a lot on what you eat.
00:23:14.96\00:23:17.13
And the good news is: you
can change your gut bacteria
00:23:17.33\00:23:21.06
by what you eat
and by probiotics.
00:23:21.26\00:23:23.90
It is fascinating, and you
CAN improve your health by that.
00:23:24.10\00:23:27.20
We can have bad bacteria
and we have good bacteria.
00:23:27.40\00:23:32.37
And if the bad bacteria flourish
00:23:32.87\00:23:35.41
we have a
disease state, don't we?
00:23:35.61\00:23:37.78
It's very complicated;
it's not so simple like that.
00:23:38.28\00:23:41.55
We have more than
10,000 types of bacteria
00:23:41.75\00:23:46.19
in our gut and we
know it's so complicated.
00:23:46.39\00:23:49.49
They don't grow outside of there
00:23:49.69\00:23:51.79
so they need certain
type... About half of them
00:23:51.99\00:23:54.36
they don't grow
outside so they need a type of
00:23:54.56\00:23:57.37
specific
environment where they can grow.
00:23:57.57\00:24:01.07
And depends one on
another what they are doing
00:24:01.27\00:24:04.24
and they are
talking to our brain.
00:24:04.44\00:24:07.48
It is fascinating! One of the
professors in the Univ. of CA
00:24:07.68\00:24:12.45
studied 40 years
brain/gut connection.
00:24:12.65\00:24:17.65
And the results which he
had: they are fascinating.
00:24:17.85\00:24:21.62
And he said...
When I was impressed...
00:24:21.82\00:24:25.49
"We have in our gut receptor
for the plant polyphenol.
00:24:25.69\00:24:30.00
And we recognize
about 28 of them.
00:24:30.20\00:24:32.50
We know we have receptor
for garlic; we have receptor for
00:24:32.70\00:24:36.50
mustard; we have
receptor for turmeric;
00:24:38.37\00:24:43.38
we have receptor for...
what were the others? Anyway...
00:24:43.58\00:24:46.95
Twenty-eight of
them. So they are there.
00:24:47.15\00:24:50.39
So why they are there?
Because we are supposed to eat
00:24:50.59\00:24:53.66
the plants as God
designed we are to eat.
00:24:53.86\00:24:56.93
It is very interesting but
what is even MORE interesting
00:24:57.43\00:25:00.16
we have olfactory
receptors in our gut.
00:25:00.56\00:25:05.33
The smell receptors.
00:25:05.73\00:25:07.44
In the gut? In the gut!
00:25:07.84\00:25:09.24
That's why you don't eat durian.
00:25:09.44\00:25:11.17
What they are doing
there? We don't know.
00:25:11.37\00:25:14.34
But they are
there! But they are there.
00:25:14.74\00:25:17.11
We have 26 types of
bitterness receptors.
00:25:17.31\00:25:22.05
Bitter receptors.
What they are doing there?
00:25:22.25\00:25:25.55
We don't know yet. Maybe
they don't like bitter food.
00:25:25.75\00:25:29.02
We have still to learn a lot.
00:25:29.22\00:25:31.53
This is from his
book. It's extraordinary:
00:25:31.73\00:25:33.66
it's Gut-Mind Connection
by Prof. Emeran Mayer.
00:25:33.86\00:25:36.40
It's written in
his book. Fascinating!
00:25:36.60\00:25:39.07
He has studied so much and he
said there is so extraordinary
00:25:39.27\00:25:43.74
connection between the
mind. The mind knows everything
00:25:43.94\00:25:48.18
what happens in the gut
because it has to direct
00:25:48.38\00:25:50.98
what types of hormones.
00:25:51.18\00:25:52.51
Our guts have about 22 hormones
which are doing our digestion.
00:25:52.68\00:25:57.52
Although we don't know anything
about them they are there
00:25:57.72\00:26:00.02
in action. And if we
put all our eye on the cells
00:26:00.22\00:26:06.06
which are in our gut it is
our biggest endocrine organ.
00:26:06.26\00:26:11.33
So it's fascinating. They
are working together with our
00:26:12.30\00:26:15.50
immune system, with our brain
and it is informed everything.
00:26:15.70\00:26:21.24
He said our brain knows...
every millimeter of the brain
00:26:21.44\00:26:25.05
knows what it is in the gut.
00:26:25.25\00:26:27.25
He said: "We don't understand
how the brain gets the info
00:26:27.45\00:26:31.59
of the messiness of the
gut. He knows how much protein
00:26:31.79\00:26:35.99
is there; how much carbs are
there; how much sugar is there
00:26:36.19\00:26:38.86
and everything
what you ate today. "
00:26:39.06\00:26:41.46
So I like the way
you equated the gut
00:26:41.86\00:26:44.57
to the heart and the
other organs in your body.
00:26:44.77\00:26:47.50
Your liver and things like that.
00:26:47.70\00:26:49.14
Because we know if one
of them fails what happens?
00:26:49.34\00:26:52.41
You die. We die. So
if we understand now
00:26:52.61\00:26:54.71
the gut has the equivalent...
you equate it to that
00:26:54.91\00:26:57.35
then the effect must
be the same upon the body.
00:26:57.55\00:27:00.12
It's fascinating. I
was reading on the Internet
00:27:00.32\00:27:02.85
about some of the different...
People may have heard of
00:27:04.29\00:27:06.49
probiotics now because when
you have antibiotics you should
00:27:06.69\00:27:09.69
have probiotics to try
and counteract the damage
00:27:09.89\00:27:13.96
that the
antibiotics will do to your gut.
00:27:14.16\00:27:16.46
But there are so many probiotics
I don't know which ones
00:27:16.87\00:27:19.20
you need to have. BUT as
I was reading the other day
00:27:19.40\00:27:23.61
different probiotics
can impact different parts
00:27:24.01\00:27:27.71
of your health. There are some
that interact with the brain
00:27:27.91\00:27:32.18
in a specific way
to help with anxiety
00:27:32.38\00:27:34.72
and foggy brain and
those sorts of things.
00:27:34.92\00:27:38.12
There are other ones that
00:27:38.52\00:27:40.39
if you don't have enough of
these you're more likely to have
00:27:42.06\00:27:44.59
depression. There are some
of the probiotics that work with
00:27:44.79\00:27:48.70
your LDL, your cholesterol,
to lower those bad LDL's.
00:27:48.90\00:27:53.20
Some work with
your immune system
00:27:53.60\00:27:55.64
to help your immune system.
00:27:55.84\00:27:57.77
If you don't have
enough of a particular one,
00:27:57.97\00:28:00.54
your immune system
will not function properly.
00:28:00.74\00:28:03.24
Some help with IBS - yes -
with irritable bowel syndrome.
00:28:03.45\00:28:08.32
They're finding now that it
seems that some of them work
00:28:08.52\00:28:11.25
with the metabolism
of whether or not you're
00:28:11.45\00:28:14.39
going to lose weight. I
read recently an article -
00:28:14.59\00:28:17.23
a recent publication - and it's
telling exactly which is going
00:28:17.43\00:28:22.23
to which. Very complicated.
Umm! Very complicated
00:28:22.43\00:28:25.57
and they know how
it's working. But...
00:28:25.77\00:28:29.17
the research is there telling
our gut is considered an organ
00:28:31.47\00:28:37.35
in itself. It is an organ.
It is helping with everything
00:28:37.55\00:28:41.18
what we have. It's not
just a little bit of...
00:28:41.38\00:28:44.85
Not just a whole
lot of intestines.
00:28:45.05\00:28:48.89
Our immune system: we
have our gut associated
00:28:49.09\00:28:51.96
with lymphatic
tissue which is making 80%
00:28:52.16\00:28:55.86
of the whole body immune system.
00:28:56.06\00:28:58.10
There your
immune system is formed.
00:28:58.30\00:29:00.70
So this is why the
way you eat is important.
00:29:00.90\00:29:03.94
All the diseases which
have immune system problems
00:29:04.14\00:29:07.98
like all the
cancers which we have,
00:29:08.18\00:29:10.28
all the autoimmune disease are
directly related with our gut.
00:29:10.48\00:29:14.12
And the good news
is: they can be repaired.
00:29:14.52\00:29:17.55
Umm! I had a patient of mine -
00:29:17.75\00:29:19.35
extraordinary,
very clever lady -
00:29:19.55\00:29:21.89
she had rheumatoid arthritis,
00:29:22.29\00:29:25.73
an acute attack... severe.
00:29:25.93\00:29:29.86
And sent her to the specialist.
00:29:30.90\00:29:32.97
She had all the medication
like it was supposed to have.
00:29:33.17\00:29:36.34
She responded very
badly to her medication.
00:29:36.54\00:29:39.34
She couldn't take it;
she had severe side effects.
00:29:39.54\00:29:41.68
And she started changing her
lifestyle because she couldn't
00:29:42.54\00:29:45.01
have... she didn't
have any other option.
00:29:45.21\00:29:47.65
Hmm! And she said: "Oh,
Coralia, you helped me so much.
00:29:47.85\00:29:51.22
You opened my eyes. "
I showed her some of the
00:29:51.42\00:29:54.02
articles and so on, and
after that she was doing her own
00:29:54.22\00:29:58.39
research. Today, about
three years since this happened
00:29:58.59\00:30:04.50
this lady doesn't
take ANY medication.
00:30:05.00\00:30:07.64
She is very careful
of what she is doing.
00:30:07.84\00:30:10.17
She worked very hard
to repair her leaky gut
00:30:10.37\00:30:14.94
because that's where
all the autoimmune starts.
00:30:15.34\00:30:17.75
And she is doing
everything what she can
00:30:18.15\00:30:21.42
and she is keeping
under perfect control.
00:30:21.62\00:30:24.29
It is fascinating!
00:30:24.45\00:30:26.02
I was fascinated. I
never had a patient like that.
00:30:26.22\00:30:29.09
But it's needed
so much diligence,
00:30:29.29\00:30:31.79
so much clarity...
00:30:31.99\00:30:37.67
clarity. You have to be
clear about the situation.
00:30:37.87\00:30:41.00
You have to
understand what happens
00:30:41.20\00:30:42.74
and this lady did.
00:30:42.94\00:30:44.31
And she studied extensively...
she regained her health.
00:30:44.51\00:30:47.71
So then it becomes
basically your lifestyle...
00:30:47.91\00:30:50.35
you know what to do. It's a
completely different lifestyle!
00:30:50.55\00:30:53.82
And she said it is fascinating
how ignorant we could be.
00:30:54.02\00:30:57.55
So yeah, I understand that.
00:30:57.75\00:30:59.22
I mean I was so ignorant
I did not understand, and
00:30:59.42\00:31:02.06
I have a lot of articles which
confirm what I was doing wrong.
00:31:02.26\00:31:05.73
So just tell us:
what is leaky gut?
00:31:05.93\00:31:07.53
The leaky gut: it is,
you know, our gut lining.
00:31:07.93\00:31:13.23
It is just one type of cells.
00:31:13.44\00:31:16.67
One row of cells which
is come one to another.
00:31:16.87\00:31:21.14
And these cells are keeping all
together with a certain protein
00:31:21.34\00:31:25.38
which is called zonulin.
A lot of recent research
00:31:25.58\00:31:28.68
is doing that is
keeping them all together.
00:31:28.88\00:31:31.25
The bacteria normally is
not supposed to penetrate
00:31:31.45\00:31:35.29
the gut wall at all.
00:31:35.49\00:31:36.83
And when this happens when you
have this type of bad bacteria
00:31:37.13\00:31:40.03
or cell it is some
disturbance happens there
00:31:40.23\00:31:43.37
and you have a bit of gap.
It's leaking... it's letting
00:31:43.57\00:31:47.94
going out of the gut.
It's not supposed to go. Umm!
00:31:48.14\00:31:51.37
And it goes, and the
immune system responds to it.
00:31:51.57\00:31:54.31
This is not a
substance which has to be there.
00:31:54.51\00:31:57.85
So that's how you trigger
the immune system with that.
00:31:58.05\00:32:01.12
So if you go to the
base and try to fix this
00:32:01.32\00:32:04.42
your immune system
is quieting down again.
00:32:04.62\00:32:08.02
Umm. Umm... so
they need to have that?
00:32:08.22\00:32:12.83
You cannot do anything... so
00:32:13.03\00:32:16.43
but you know, our cells...
00:32:16.63\00:32:18.03
in the gut our cells are
multiplying every three days.
00:32:18.53\00:32:21.37
So they are
changing every three days.
00:32:21.57\00:32:23.47
So as soon as you repair the
body... And now we know a lot
00:32:23.67\00:32:26.68
of microbes
which are doing this.
00:32:26.88\00:32:30.85
They are doing the
substances which are necessary.
00:32:31.05\00:32:33.92
I actually read three days
ago an article where it said
00:32:34.12\00:32:37.92
pomegranates and blueberries,
they trigger, they feed
00:32:38.12\00:32:44.09
certain types of microbes and
those microbes then are doing
00:32:44.29\00:32:47.46
a certain substance
which is fixing the leaky gut.
00:32:47.66\00:32:50.60
It's so complicated.
Oh! It's fascinating.
00:32:50.80\00:32:53.60
That's nice. Pomegranates
and blueberries are good!
00:32:53.80\00:32:55.50
Yeah, they are VERY good.
We knew they are very good for
00:32:55.70\00:32:58.37
different things
but we start finding out
00:32:58.57\00:33:00.94
how they are working. You
know, I'm amazed, Coralia.
00:33:01.18\00:33:04.11
Now that we are understanding
how important an organ the gut
00:33:04.31\00:33:06.82
is, you know, it's
amazing what men and women
00:33:07.02\00:33:11.95
as human beings do.
What they put in their mouth
00:33:12.15\00:33:14.86
to put down in there and still
00:33:15.06\00:33:18.39
they can continue to
function. Not to the degree that
00:33:18.59\00:33:21.23
you know, we do. But
the ability of the stomach -
00:33:21.43\00:33:25.23
the gut - to handle
all that is amazing to me.
00:33:25.43\00:33:27.77
When you think about a
person who drinks alcohol
00:33:27.97\00:33:30.87
you know, and you've got
that you said that one lining.
00:33:31.07\00:33:33.88
Yes. I mean, what does
it do down there? You know?
00:33:34.44\00:33:36.61
It must be incredible the way
the Designer God has made us!
00:33:36.81\00:33:40.68
To be able to continue... that
in itself is an amazing thing.
00:33:40.88\00:33:44.69
It is. Umm... the
damage it would do...
00:33:44.89\00:33:47.82
There are people who
have things like fibromyalgia.
00:33:48.22\00:33:52.89
A lot of pain with
that! All these diseases
00:33:54.63\00:33:57.63
can be repaired,
can be "attenuated"
00:34:00.87\00:34:05.24
if you are really careful.
Not everybody's the same.
00:34:05.44\00:34:08.28
We are different;
we are just unique.
00:34:08.48\00:34:10.65
We have different
genetic background.
00:34:10.85\00:34:13.01
We have different ethnicity;
we have different type of food
00:34:13.21\00:34:17.05
and so... but
MOST of the problem...
00:34:17.25\00:34:19.65
I mean, the lifestyle
medicine climb... it can prevent
00:34:19.85\00:34:23.66
80% of the chronic diseases.
00:34:23.86\00:34:26.33
Eighty percent is
quite a number. Um-hmm!
00:34:26.53\00:34:28.36
Especially to fight disease.
00:34:28.56\00:34:31.40
But David Krotz, he
was the president of
00:34:31.60\00:34:35.67
American Lifestyle
Medicine... he had a book.
00:34:35.87\00:34:38.61
And he just... It is
just what the science...
00:34:38.81\00:34:42.88
It could be prevented, but
people do not want to change
00:34:43.08\00:34:47.98
their lifestyle. It's easy.
00:34:48.18\00:34:50.72
It's hard to
change the way you eat.
00:34:50.92\00:34:53.15
It's not easy. You
have to do it gradually.
00:34:53.36\00:34:55.19
They prefer a pill.
00:34:55.39\00:34:56.73
They like the
tablet. Take the tablet
00:34:56.83\00:34:58.29
and I take the
tablet and I'm OK with that.
00:34:58.49\00:35:00.20
But that's not working.
00:35:00.40\00:35:01.76
Is that where you
find most of your patients
00:35:01.96\00:35:04.07
don't really really want
to change their lifestyle
00:35:04.63\00:35:08.80
because it's
easier to take a pill?
00:35:09.00\00:35:10.77
It's not most of them.
It's a hard thing to change.
00:35:11.17\00:35:13.98
But my patients know I
am doing lifestyle medicine
00:35:14.34\00:35:17.21
and they know that we have
to try to fix this matter first
00:35:17.41\00:35:21.68
and after that, we go to others.
00:35:21.88\00:35:24.29
And... So you go
through a process?
00:35:24.49\00:35:27.42
We go through a
process. First of all,
00:35:27.62\00:35:30.83
I explain to them the
Western diet is extremely
00:35:31.66\00:35:36.67
nutrient depleted. Um-hmm.
00:35:36.87\00:35:38.33
Because Colin Campell has
00:35:38.53\00:35:41.07
the author of China Study. You
probably have heard about him.
00:35:41.27\00:35:45.11
He has done a lot of
studies and he said: "People
00:35:45.31\00:35:50.41
eating 500 calories from plants
00:35:50.61\00:35:52.61
with 500 calories
from animal-based. "
00:35:52.81\00:35:56.42
And he told us
exactly what happened.
00:35:56.82\00:36:02.06
I remember because I present
it to some of my patients.
00:36:02.26\00:36:04.56
When you have 500
calories from plant based
00:36:05.43\00:36:08.06
and he said equal
parts of tomato, lima beans,
00:36:08.26\00:36:11.30
peas, potatoes, and peas
00:36:11.50\00:36:16.60
and it was equal parts
from pork, chicken, milk,
00:36:16.81\00:36:21.68
and beef... so let's see
what nutrients are in these?
00:36:21.88\00:36:26.61
So when you have
500 calories from plants
00:36:26.82\00:36:29.18
you don't have
cholesterol at all.
00:36:29.38\00:36:31.22
There are 137 milligrams of
cholesterol in the animal-based.
00:36:31.42\00:36:35.16
You have 4 grams of fats
00:36:35.56\00:36:40.96
in the plant-based.
Plant sterols, which are
00:36:41.16\00:36:45.37
extraordinarily good for your
body, are helping your gut a
00:36:45.57\00:36:48.70
lot. And you have
39 grams of fat...
00:36:49.10\00:36:52.57
so you already have 9 times
more fat than the plant-based.
00:36:52.77\00:36:56.95
But when you go to the fiber
00:36:58.31\00:37:00.58
we don't have any fiber at all.
00:37:00.78\00:37:02.98
In the
animal-based? In the animal.
00:37:03.28\00:37:05.15
You have 31 mg. of fiber
00:37:05.35\00:37:10.06
in the plant-based diet.
00:37:10.46\00:37:13.36
Trying to remember
it. But let's go further.
00:37:13.56\00:37:16.73
Let's go to
vitamin A... Beta Carotene.
00:37:16.93\00:37:19.23
You have there 29,000
00:37:19.63\00:37:24.37
mg. of Beta Carotene - um-hmm -
00:37:24.57\00:37:27.34
and you have in the animal-based
00:37:27.54\00:37:31.78
17. 29,000 versus 17? Yes.
00:37:31.98\00:37:36.69
Hmm. And I don't
remember exactly the number
00:37:37.09\00:37:39.12
but I know exactly you have
00:37:39.32\00:37:40.79
62 times more vitamin C.
00:37:40.99\00:37:45.29
Hmm! You have 60
times more vitamin E.
00:37:45.49\00:37:50.23
Now 62 times
vitamin B9... folic acid.
00:37:52.27\00:37:56.77
You have 22
times more vitamin E;
00:37:56.97\00:37:59.47
you have 10 times
more calcium... magnesium.
00:37:59.67\00:38:03.55
You have twice more calcium;
you have 10 times more iron.
00:38:03.75\00:38:06.98
So what can you?
Which one would you choose?
00:38:07.38\00:38:10.12
That's what I was thinking.
00:38:10.32\00:38:11.89
You try to imagine if you
eat nutrient-depleted today,
00:38:12.09\00:38:15.69
you eat
nutrient-depleted tomorrow,
00:38:15.89\00:38:18.89
your body does not
have so many nutrients.
00:38:19.09\00:38:25.60
How your body survive? Umm!
00:38:25.80\00:38:27.70
So this is why...
Just goes downhill!
00:38:27.90\00:38:30.01
This is why
lifestyle medicine works.
00:38:30.21\00:38:31.97
As soon as you supply
the body with the nutrients
00:38:32.37\00:38:36.54
and your body has this to use it
00:38:36.75\00:38:39.35
whoo! You likely
would not believe it.
00:38:39.55\00:38:41.55
These genes start
working; everything repairing
00:38:41.75\00:38:45.19
and start working in your body.
00:38:45.39\00:38:46.72
For the first part I would
say the body would be in shock.
00:38:46.79\00:38:50.83
What's going on?
00:38:51.03\00:38:54.60
They said you change your
gut microbiomes within 24 hours
00:38:54.80\00:38:59.43
if you change your diet
00:38:59.63\00:39:01.10
going vegetarian or
going on meat-based.
00:39:01.30\00:39:04.14
Hmm. Either good or bad.
00:39:04.34\00:39:06.07
Either good or bad.
You change right away
00:39:06.27\00:39:08.21
they have studies
which are showing: 24 hours.
00:39:08.41\00:39:11.18
And if you stop it,
it's taking quite a while
00:39:11.38\00:39:14.22
and it will go back
to where you were before.
00:39:14.42\00:39:16.32
So this is why
you have maintenance.
00:39:16.52\00:39:18.65
It does not need
to eat it for a while.
00:39:18.85\00:39:20.96
Yes, I eat healthy now
because I am desperately
00:39:21.16\00:39:23.19
sick and I try to get better.
00:39:23.69\00:39:26.09
And later on you
keep going and you...
00:39:26.29\00:39:29.50
Go back? Yeah, go back
to what you used to do.
00:39:29.70\00:39:32.63
So Coralia, when you and
your husband studied medicine
00:39:32.83\00:39:35.04
that was a
traditional medicine, right?
00:39:35.24\00:39:37.04
And you practiced
that for how long?
00:39:37.24\00:39:38.77
How many years did you
practice traditional medicine?
00:39:38.97\00:39:41.84
So we practiced
this until 2012 actually.
00:39:42.04\00:39:47.32
No... 2007... 2007. It
was actually traditional
00:39:48.55\00:39:53.05
and I believed in
everything what I was doing
00:39:53.25\00:39:55.52
and I tried to do my best.
00:39:55.72\00:39:57.06
I did not know better.
00:39:57.23\00:39:58.66
It has been... It was
just by that time when
00:39:59.06\00:40:02.96
the science came
showing this and that and that.
00:40:03.16\00:40:05.53
But I did not look at the
new science until I was not
00:40:05.73\00:40:08.17
desperate to find out
some answers for my husband's
00:40:08.37\00:40:11.47
problem. By
traditional medicine we mean
00:40:11.67\00:40:14.34
normal medical
doctors with drugs. Yes.
00:40:14.54\00:40:17.75
Not traditional like
acupuncture. No, no, no, no.
00:40:18.01\00:40:23.15
It's a medical
doctor. Rhino horn and...
00:40:23.35\00:40:25.95
No, it's a medical doctor but
00:40:26.15\00:40:28.16
now we put emphasis
on lifestyle medicine.
00:40:28.36\00:40:31.93
So do everything you
can. Do a very big change
00:40:32.13\00:40:36.26
with lifestyle medicine because
we know food is created by God.
00:40:36.46\00:40:40.64
When we eat it, part of it
is information for your body.
00:40:40.84\00:40:44.27
Foods come with synergism.
They come with so many
00:40:44.67\00:40:47.74
substances you need and
one is magnifying the other one
00:40:47.94\00:40:52.31
and it's working in this
way when it's going in the body.
00:40:52.51\00:40:55.05
This is why it is the
best if we can eat food
00:40:55.25\00:40:59.42
as God left it.
00:40:59.62\00:41:02.99
Hmm. Minimally processed.
00:41:03.19\00:41:04.96
Because in the time when
we start processing the food
00:41:05.16\00:41:08.23
we start denaturing the food.
00:41:08.43\00:41:11.47
So you look more now
at prevention than cure
00:41:11.87\00:41:15.57
because if we can
focus on the prevention
00:41:15.77\00:41:18.31
through lifestyle medicine
then you are less likely
00:41:18.51\00:41:21.54
to need curing. In other
words, you put yourself...
00:41:21.74\00:41:24.68
But lifestyle medicine
is preventing definitely
00:41:24.88\00:41:27.68
a big preventive, and we use
it in intensive life medicine
00:41:27.88\00:41:33.12
in curing people. I
mean, not in curing...
00:41:33.32\00:41:35.36
in reversing and getting better.
00:41:35.56\00:41:37.26
And some people
are getting better.
00:41:37.46\00:41:38.79
I mean, I have in my
clinic a lot of people which
00:41:38.96\00:41:41.60
I have been able to
take them off insulin
00:41:41.80\00:41:44.03
and they are working
very well on their lifestyle
00:41:44.43\00:41:47.17
and a few tablets
00:41:47.37\00:41:49.04
comparing with
having insulin all the time.
00:41:49.44\00:41:52.17
Because until now we
thought diabetes is just
00:41:52.57\00:41:54.98
a simple disease. We
know it involves muscle,
00:41:55.18\00:41:57.35
liver, and pancreas and
we thought it's just not.
00:41:57.55\00:42:00.32
And 3 years ago when I attended
the first Australian lifestyle
00:42:00.52\00:42:05.19
medicine - 'cause we
have a conference here now -
00:42:05.39\00:42:07.86
it was the American Lifestyle
President, Dr. George Guthrie,
00:42:09.06\00:42:14.23
who is a SDA doctor who
works in Loma Linda hospital...
00:42:14.43\00:42:18.83
He was the president, and
he presented an extraordinary
00:42:19.03\00:42:22.04
lecture on diabetes. And he said
now actually we have 8 factors
00:42:22.24\00:42:26.68
of diabetes. It
is not only these...
00:42:26.88\00:42:29.28
Our gut is involved;
our kidneys are involved;
00:42:29.48\00:42:32.81
our brain is involved as well.
00:42:33.01\00:42:34.85
So it is much much more
complicated than we thought.
00:42:35.25\00:42:39.19
So it's a new science. A
lot of people do not know.
00:42:39.39\00:42:42.56
I did not know as I
said. Twelve years ago
00:42:42.76\00:42:44.96
when I attended a medical
lecture and I heard the first
00:42:45.16\00:42:48.46
time the kidneys are involved
in diabetes I said: "How come?
00:42:48.66\00:42:52.03
What is kidney doing? "
00:42:52.23\00:42:54.24
So now, yes, kidney is
involved in diabetes, too.
00:42:54.44\00:42:56.40
So we have to look at the whole.
00:42:56.60\00:42:58.91
In diabetes if you
address only - the fat liver
00:42:59.11\00:43:04.78
is a bigger problem in diabetes.
00:43:04.98\00:43:06.31
Yes, it's fixing
some of the problem.
00:43:06.65\00:43:08.28
You have to try to
fix all the problem.
00:43:08.48\00:43:11.12
And now there is medication
which is addressing the gut
00:43:11.32\00:43:14.22
involvement in diabetes.
There is medicine which is
00:43:14.42\00:43:17.06
addressing the kidney
involvement in diabetes.
00:43:17.26\00:43:21.03
So, 'tis there.
00:43:21.23\00:43:23.40
So, what sort of? When
someone comes to your clinic,
00:43:23.60\00:43:26.47
say they come to
you with depression.
00:43:26.87\00:43:30.21
What would you
recommend for them?
00:43:31.27\00:43:33.78
Depression is a very big thing.
00:43:36.14\00:43:39.01
Depression is a disease
of the twenty-first century
00:43:39.21\00:43:43.82
because what we are
eating is so nutrient depleted.
00:43:44.22\00:43:47.29
Our brain is so nutrient-
depleted and it cannot function.
00:43:47.69\00:43:51.33
And it goes from
generation to generation.
00:43:51.53\00:43:53.96
We are severely
depleted on Omega-3.
00:43:54.16\00:43:56.70
I check the Omega-3
index in my patients
00:43:56.90\00:44:00.84
when we have the
first blood test.
00:44:01.04\00:44:03.30
And we are 2%
00:44:03.51\00:44:07.48
if we find close to
normal what it's supposed to be.
00:44:08.94\00:44:12.25
It is so deficient.
00:44:12.75\00:44:15.48
Omega-3 fats... they
are fats which are called
00:44:15.68\00:44:19.02
essential nutrients. We
have to have them from food.
00:44:19.22\00:44:22.52
Our body is able to
manufacture a lot of substances
00:44:22.72\00:44:25.33
which the body needs, but
this one it is not able to.
00:44:25.53\00:44:28.86
You have to have it from food.
00:44:29.06\00:44:30.43
Like vitamin C... you
have to have it from food.
00:44:30.63\00:44:33.23
Your body cannot
manufacture vitamin C
00:44:33.64\00:44:35.70
so it does not, and it
needs a small amount of it.
00:44:35.90\00:44:39.44
And if it did not have,
60% of our brain is fat.
00:44:40.11\00:44:46.11
A lot of the fat in
the brain is Omega-3 fat
00:44:46.45\00:44:49.58
involving in the cell membrane
00:44:49.98\00:44:52.52
and it's involving in
the neurotransmitters.
00:44:52.72\00:44:56.12
And it is essential. If
it's not there, the body
00:44:56.32\00:45:00.13
doesn't know how to work it.
00:45:00.33\00:45:01.66
So I explain to them: "You
have to change your lifestyle.
00:45:01.76\00:45:05.43
You have to start
eating brain food. "
00:45:05.63\00:45:08.94
And I say: "Just Google
brain food and go there. "
00:45:09.14\00:45:11.97
"Eat what the brain needs. "
00:45:12.17\00:45:14.11
And after that I explain
to them why they have this.
00:45:14.31\00:45:16.81
If they are on medication, I
will leave them on medication
00:45:17.01\00:45:19.61
and see what amount of
this. Some of them... they have
00:45:19.81\00:45:22.55
polypharmacy which
is doing a disaster.
00:45:22.75\00:45:25.25
I said: "We have
to cut some of them.
00:45:25.45\00:45:27.52
Let's try to
have a little bit less
00:45:27.72\00:45:30.26
to see how your body
is coping with minimum. "
00:45:30.46\00:45:33.50
And as the time is going
00:45:33.90\00:45:36.90
they will see the improvement
in their entire body.
00:45:37.10\00:45:39.17
Exercise is absolutely
essential in nutrition.
00:45:39.37\00:45:42.50
Sunlight: it is a
MUST in nutrition.
00:45:42.70\00:45:45.61
We know exactly
what genes are activated.
00:45:45.81\00:45:48.54
And sunlight helps in depression
00:45:48.74\00:45:50.95
because it elevates
the "happy" enzymes.
00:45:51.15\00:45:56.69
The remarkable way
00:45:56.89\00:45:59.59
that the sun is working -
and especially morning sun -
00:45:59.79\00:46:02.42
exercising, morning sun,
00:46:02.62\00:46:05.93
changing the
nutrition. Having water?
00:46:06.13\00:46:09.20
Everything is
helping. Water; having a hope
00:46:09.40\00:46:12.50
you can be better. Most of the
people they do not have hope.
00:46:12.70\00:46:16.74
They say: "I'm not doing...
I'm lost. There's nothing
00:46:16.94\00:46:20.51
which I can do. "
And when you tell them:
00:46:20.71\00:46:22.81
"No, there's a
lot that you can do"
00:46:23.01\00:46:24.48
and they start
building up their hope.
00:46:24.68\00:46:27.52
They see the
improvement in themselves.
00:46:27.72\00:46:30.29
Patients are coming 2-3
weeks after they start changing
00:46:30.49\00:46:33.82
their diet and their lifestyle
00:46:34.02\00:46:37.09
and they said: "Wow!
I feel so much better!
00:46:37.29\00:46:40.30
I cannot believe it! "
So feeling better gives you
00:46:40.50\00:46:43.40
incentive to start
doing a bit more change.
00:46:43.60\00:46:46.57
Hmm. Do you find that
there are patients who
00:46:46.77\00:46:49.84
after they feel
better they go off the?
00:46:50.04\00:46:54.08
Yes absolutely. Do
they then regret? Oh yes.
00:46:54.28\00:46:56.98
Yes, I did have patients...
I remember I had a patient
00:46:57.18\00:47:00.38
of mine. She had
ulcerative colitis
00:47:00.58\00:47:03.12
and she was really bad.
And they have a certain test
00:47:03.32\00:47:05.92
where you can see how bad is
the inflammation in your gut.
00:47:06.12\00:47:08.99
And her test was 10 times bigger
than it was supposed to be.
00:47:09.19\00:47:11.93
I told her
change. I showed her data
00:47:12.13\00:47:15.96
and she changed the lifestyle.
00:47:16.16\00:47:20.90
And she came back
about two years later
00:47:21.10\00:47:24.91
and she said: "I'm bad again. "
00:47:25.11\00:47:27.21
She said: "I know I was
not keeping very well. "
00:47:27.41\00:47:31.68
So I said: "Go back on it;
it's not working without it. "
00:47:31.88\00:47:35.18
And with this lady I have
her blood test 6 months after
00:47:35.58\00:47:39.65
she started
changing her blood pressure.
00:47:39.85\00:47:41.22
And the inflammation
marker which is in our gut -
00:47:41.42\00:47:44.06
in her gut - it
was back to twice.
00:47:44.26\00:47:47.40
From ten times it
was back to twice.
00:47:47.60\00:47:49.90
Hmm. So you can prove it.
00:47:50.10\00:47:53.80
Hmm. Yeah.
00:47:54.00\00:47:57.84
So you always do blood
tests for the patients?
00:47:58.04\00:48:01.91
Yeah. What are you checking for?
00:48:02.11\00:48:03.45
I'm checking mainly
the nutrients in the body.
00:48:04.11\00:48:06.55
I check the level of
cholesterol to see if they have
00:48:06.75\00:48:08.42
diabetes. Liver
function; kidney function.
00:48:08.62\00:48:11.29
And I'm checking
for lipoprotein A. It is
00:48:12.59\00:48:16.36
a type of bad cholesterol which
I learned about in San Diego.
00:48:16.56\00:48:20.56
And the first time I came
home and I said: "Let's check
00:48:20.76\00:48:23.83
my husband... see his
level of lipoprotein. "
00:48:24.03\00:48:26.03
And I was so shocked.
His level was 10 times bigger
00:48:26.23\00:48:29.24
than it is supposed to be. Hmm!
00:48:29.44\00:48:30.77
This is an inherited
bad type of cholesterol
00:48:30.94\00:48:33.81
which is actually
working in the body much more
00:48:34.01\00:48:37.18
harm than the LDL
oxidized LDL cholesterol
00:48:37.38\00:48:42.02
which you know
is not good for you.
00:48:42.22\00:48:43.55
And you inherited
this. My husband was never
00:48:43.92\00:48:48.82
obese. His cholesterol
was perfect all the time
00:48:49.02\00:48:51.89
so he did not expect it.
00:48:52.29\00:48:53.76
So we went further and we
checked his coronary artery
00:48:53.96\00:48:57.17
disease and he had 60%
blocked coronary artery disease.
00:48:57.57\00:49:00.60
Hmm. So you don't
really know, do you?
00:49:00.80\00:49:04.17
So you don't really know
because we don't eat whole.
00:49:04.37\00:49:07.28
So this is why the more we study
00:49:07.48\00:49:09.58
the more you
realize how little you know
00:49:09.78\00:49:12.15
about our bodies. BUT
there are some things you can do
00:49:13.25\00:49:16.65
for relapse. So
I recommended him
00:49:16.85\00:49:18.52
to update his vitamin C.
You have to have extra vitamin C
00:49:18.72\00:49:22.62
when you have this
condition. You have to have
00:49:22.82\00:49:25.26
extra vitamin B3, and
we've been able to decrease his
00:49:25.46\00:49:30.10
LDL lipoprotein
A from 680 to 135!
00:49:30.30\00:49:36.24
Oh, that's a long
way! It is a long way.
00:49:36.44\00:49:38.77
It isn't back to
normal. Normal is 75 or less
00:49:38.97\00:49:41.64
but it is much
better than he used to be.
00:49:41.84\00:49:45.38
So this is why it's so
complicated. It's not a simple
00:49:45.58\00:49:49.12
matter. You can fix the
cholesterol with statins.
00:49:49.32\00:49:53.62
So what? You
destroy your co-enzyme Q10.
00:49:53.82\00:49:57.56
So it is... have
to work together.
00:49:57.76\00:50:00.63
Hmm. So you know, being
a medical practitioner now
00:50:00.83\00:50:03.77
for a number of years...
You have practiced medicine...
00:50:03.97\00:50:07.30
I know that every doctor
is intending to help everyone.
00:50:07.50\00:50:10.51
And so you have now had
the opportunity to look at
00:50:10.91\00:50:14.21
what you learned and
now what you are discovering
00:50:14.41\00:50:16.54
science is revealing.
00:50:16.75\00:50:18.38
And looking at them
both, you being someone who
00:50:18.58\00:50:21.25
talks to patients, which
is showing greater success
00:50:21.45\00:50:25.35
in helping the patient?
00:50:25.75\00:50:27.36
It is lifestyle! It is
what you put in your mouth
00:50:28.42\00:50:31.49
that what... I don't remember
the name of the professor
00:50:31.69\00:50:35.73
who told me. He is a
global leader in the science
00:50:35.93\00:50:40.77
in microbiome. He said:
"What you put in your mouth
00:50:40.97\00:50:43.64
is the biggest
challenge to your gut microbiome
00:50:43.84\00:50:47.91
and to your genes. " Hmm. Hmm.
00:50:48.11\00:50:51.21
So this is why with
what we eat we can have
00:50:51.41\00:50:54.78
such a big... have
such a big implication
00:50:54.98\00:50:58.29
in our lives. You know,
genetics and epigenetics
00:50:58.49\00:51:02.19
have become a major science now.
00:51:02.39\00:51:06.16
Something that they
didn't know before. Yes!
00:51:06.36\00:51:08.60
And they're finding that
the microbiome and the genetics
00:51:08.80\00:51:14.00
are working hand in hand - yes
- in the health of our bodies.
00:51:14.20\00:51:17.41
Each one works
together. It's so complicated.
00:51:17.61\00:51:21.01
We try to understand, and
as I said, the more you read
00:51:21.21\00:51:24.51
the more you
realize how little you know.
00:51:24.71\00:51:27.05
And I thought before: "I
know this and I know that
00:51:27.25\00:51:31.09
and I know that" and now
I say: "I know so little! "
00:51:31.29\00:51:33.76
I REALLY know so little.
00:51:33.96\00:51:35.79
If somebody's
been on antibiotics
00:51:35.99\00:51:37.93
for something, is there a
specific type of probiotics
00:51:38.13\00:51:43.20
that they should
have? Or does it matter
00:51:43.40\00:51:44.93
which one that they have?
00:51:45.13\00:51:46.47
'Cause I don't know, you know?
Antibiotics kill certain... Yes.
00:51:46.50\00:51:50.11
Our medical science is
telling us that antibiotics
00:51:50.31\00:51:53.58
are a disaster for our body.
00:51:53.78\00:51:55.68
You need to have them sometimes.
They are life-saving sometimes -
00:51:56.08\00:52:00.08
yes - so you need to
have. You don't have to be
00:52:00.48\00:52:02.15
narrow-minded and say: "No,
I am not having because this
00:52:02.35\00:52:05.22
destroying my gut microbiology"
00:52:05.42\00:52:06.89
because you will die
because of pneumonia, you know.
00:52:07.09\00:52:09.49
So you have to be open-minded.
00:52:09.69\00:52:12.09
But a lot of people are taking
antibiotics when they shouldn't.
00:52:12.29\00:52:16.10
Hmm. And I have
one of my patients
00:52:16.30\00:52:18.60
she once told me... The
first time when she came
00:52:18.80\00:52:22.50
to see me: "I had a discussion
with a previous patient
00:52:22.70\00:52:25.84
and he was leaving
and he slammed the door. "
00:52:26.04\00:52:30.58
And I came out and I
said: "Next please. "
00:52:30.78\00:52:34.75
And she said: "Oh, no!
What's going on here? "
00:52:34.95\00:52:37.65
And I told her what happened
to the previous patient.
00:52:38.52\00:52:42.22
It was a father who
came with his daughter.
00:52:42.42\00:52:45.99
And she had a bit of
that and a bit of cough
00:52:46.19\00:52:50.30
and a bit of sore
throat and a bit of... And she
00:52:50.50\00:52:53.30
presented to have antibiotics.
And I explained to him
00:52:53.50\00:52:55.94
"Your daughter has a
virus in her. She does not need
00:52:56.14\00:52:58.71
to have... " "NO! NO!
NO! She's not getting better
00:52:58.91\00:53:00.48
without antibiotics.
You have that. " I said:
00:53:00.68\00:53:02.24
"No, I'm not giving to
her. I'll cause harm to her
00:53:02.64\00:53:05.21
if I'll give her antibiotics. "
00:53:05.41\00:53:07.05
And he was VERY disappointed
00:53:07.25\00:53:11.29
because of my approach.
00:53:11.49\00:53:13.46
That is antibiotics. We
need to have them sometimes
00:53:13.86\00:53:16.96
but most of the time we
don't need to have them.
00:53:17.16\00:53:19.73
And they are causing...
They can't help with a viral...
00:53:19.93\00:53:22.10
They cannot help with a
virus and they are causing big
00:53:22.30\00:53:24.73
disaster in our gut.
And I read an article
00:53:24.93\00:53:27.50
which said it may take up
to 6 weeks or even 6 months
00:53:27.70\00:53:31.21
for your gut to repair to
the state which it was before.
00:53:31.41\00:53:34.78
But, of course,
sometimes we need them.
00:53:34.98\00:53:37.91
But we have to avoid
as much as we can them.
00:53:38.11\00:53:41.38
Well right now,
before we go any further,
00:53:41.58\00:53:44.39
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00:53:49.99\00:53:53.46
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We're talking with Dr.
Coralia. She has a clinic in
00:55:09.50\00:55:12.37
Melbourne in Victoria.
00:55:12.57\00:55:14.88
And we would encourage you
if you want to know a little bit
00:55:15.28\00:55:18.51
about more where
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00:55:18.71\00:55:21.35
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00:55:21.55\00:55:26.05
But there's a question that
I would like to ask, Coralia.
00:55:26.25\00:55:29.26
And that is: we are suffering
now with great chronic disease
00:55:29.46\00:55:32.59
in our society, and
what is that attributed to?
00:55:32.79\00:55:36.16
And what would you tell
our viewers to stay away from?
00:55:36.36\00:55:39.73
The root of all chronic
disease is inflammation.
00:55:40.14\00:55:44.61
The inflammation is triggered
directly by the way we eat.
00:55:45.01\00:55:49.04
By the advanced glycation
and product in the food we eat.
00:55:49.24\00:55:53.08
Hmm. So change this. You
will decrease the inflammation
00:55:53.28\00:55:57.85
level. You can check
it in the blood test.
00:55:58.05\00:56:01.62
How simple it is!
00:56:01.82\00:56:03.16
So inflammation can
happen in any part of the body?
00:56:03.19\00:56:05.36
We think of inflammation
when he hurt ourselves
00:56:05.56\00:56:07.70
or burn ourselves
or something like that.
00:56:07.90\00:56:10.07
But it's something that
can happen anywhere and trigger
00:56:10.27\00:56:11.93
disease. Is that right?
00:56:12.13\00:56:13.47
When we eat the Western
style there is a status of
00:56:13.50\00:56:17.37
low inflammation and chronic
inflammation which is not
00:56:17.57\00:56:20.68
supposed to be there.
Inflammation is a process which
00:56:20.88\00:56:23.58
is supposed to fix a
problem. If you have a wound,
00:56:23.78\00:56:26.18
you know, the body uses
the inflammation to heal it
00:56:26.38\00:56:29.32
and that's it. It's end up.
00:56:29.52\00:56:31.22
But when you have chronic
inflammation which is there
00:56:31.42\00:56:34.02
all the time it's
causing big damage.
00:56:34.22\00:56:36.52
Actually, it's
called now metaflamation
00:56:36.73\00:56:39.29
hmm - because of the
metabolism it's involving in it.
00:56:39.76\00:56:43.43
So inflammation is there
causing all... This is why
00:56:43.63\00:56:46.50
when you fix
inflammation you fix diabetes,
00:56:46.70\00:56:49.27
you fix heart disease,
you fix rheumatoid arthritis,
00:56:49.47\00:56:52.07
you fix arthritis,
you fix even cancer...
00:56:52.27\00:56:55.08
because even the root of
the cancer is inflammation.
00:56:55.28\00:56:58.01
That's amazing! You wouldn't...
You don't really think of
00:56:58.41\00:57:01.72
inflammation as having
such an impact on our body.
00:57:01.92\00:57:05.32
Inflammation is the biggest
cause of all chronic diseases.
00:57:05.52\00:57:10.03
I did ask Dr. Coralia a question
before we had the address roll
00:57:10.43\00:57:14.53
about if there was a specific
probiotic you should have
00:57:14.73\00:57:18.17
after antibiotics.
And I asked her again
00:57:18.37\00:57:20.54
before and she said: "No. "
00:57:20.74\00:57:22.10
They are specific.
There are lots of studies
00:57:22.50\00:57:26.57
but I am not able to
tell you which is which.
00:57:26.78\00:57:28.71
But the ones which
are on the market...
00:57:28.91\00:57:30.48
it's quite a billion-dollar
market there: probiotics.
00:57:30.68\00:57:34.02
They are quite good. Yes.
00:57:34.22\00:57:35.88
Well I hope you've enjoyed
our discussion with Dr. Coralia.
00:57:36.08\00:57:39.45
We've run out of time because
there's so much more to say.
00:57:39.65\00:57:42.06
And please: tell
other people about it
00:57:42.46\00:57:44.93
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