Welcome back, we are
coming to you live from Israel,
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from Jerusalem, from
the RRSat Center-- Yes.
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Here in Jerusalem.
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And we've been
having a great time
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and hopefully you've
heard some information
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and you've caught the
fire, the fever, the fervor
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of what's
happening here in Israel.
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And as we said
in our first half,
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work is a little tougher
here than many other places
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in the world
because of the community,
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because of the history,
because of this country,
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but Christ is doing some
marvelous things in Israel
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and it's exciting to
be a part of that, Jim.
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Amen, it really is. Yeah.
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And when I hear
Pastor Roger speak. Yeah.
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I tell you, I get really
excited and Pastor Olen. Yes.
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And you hear about,
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you know, the
challenges they have, yes,
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but the opportunities that
they have are just fantastic.
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Yes, yeah. So we're excited
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and then when we began
to visit with Joanne Davis
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and she is sharing
with us some of the things
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that she has experienced
in our trip this week
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and we're gonna
start talking about
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what the trip has been
meaning to people spiritually
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and why that we just feel that
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it's a very
important thing to do.
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And we don't believe
everybody needs to do this,
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we really don't.
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But, you know, a
lot of people take
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expensive vacations every year
and they go to exotic places.
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There are really a lot
of people that do that.
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And when they have
made this kind of trip,
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they find it so
much more meaningful
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than lying on a beach in Hawaii
or something of that nature.
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I'm not knocking that,
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but the world we live
in today is so different.
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Back in the time
say of Ellen White,
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it took virtually a
year for people to come here.
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There were no real
accommodations for them
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when they got here.
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And so there was really
not all that much to do.
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Mark Twain
wrote a book about it.
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And if anyone
ever read that book,
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there would certainly
never want to come to Israel.
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Things are different
now. The travel is different.
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You can come over here.
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You'd go on a week, 10
days something like that
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like a normal vacation would be.
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The amount of money
that used to cost to come
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was about a year's salary.
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Now it's the amount of money
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that somebody would
spend for a normal vacation.
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So it's not--the perspective
is altogether different
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than it was 150 years ago.
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You know, it's just a
whole different idea. Yeah.
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So we have found that
it's been an exciting thing
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and you see what Dr.
Roger was talking about
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and how he wants to
have a study group over here,
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a place where a lot of
young people can be inspired.
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Like that idea. Yeah.
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Like that idea.
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We have Joanne Davis
with us in the studio.
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We've sort of cut you off
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because you had a
story you wanted to share,
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but before you share
that story,let's just back up
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and you just spent sometime at
the general conference? I have.
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And some things
are happening there.
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Fill us in on that and
then we'll go to your story.
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Well, I've just
returned back to New Zealand
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after a 5-day global
communication summit.
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And 70 of our communicators
from around the world
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joined together
to come up with ways
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that we can strategically
reach the world for Jesus.
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Do you know we've got
so many different people,
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3ABN included, who are working,
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doing fantastic work in
different parts of the world
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and with different ministries.
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But wouldn't it be wonderful
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if we could come
together from time to time
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and strategically tell the world
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about the second
coming of Jesus? Yes, yes.
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And it was 5 days
of trying to workout
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whether there was a
desire for that to happen
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and whether it could
actually be possible.
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And I left the GC greatly
encouraged that it is possible,
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that there is a
desire that we do this,
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and that technology
today will facilitate that,
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that even individuals with
their own ministries like I do
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and like many, many church
members all over the world do,
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can be part of something much
bigger that can reach the world.
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There is so many
parts of the world
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that just haven't
heard of Jesus at all.
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And if we keep doing what we're
doing in our own little pockets,
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we'll never
actually reach those areas.
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Now imagine if we got all
of the Generals around a map
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and we drew circles on
where we've already reached
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and we found out
where we hadn't reached
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and we made a commitment that,
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you know, you would do this
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and you would do
that, and you would do this
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and then we could actually cover
the whole world. Yeah, yeah.
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And then thought about
and prayed about a campaign
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that the Lord would give us.
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Could you imagine
a creative campaign
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where the Lord
gave us the idea? Amen.
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You know, we all look
as communicators for ideas
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that will go viral.
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That's the desire of
every great communicator
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and every great advertiser,
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but very rarely does it happen,
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but Jesus is the
greatest creator of all
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and I'm sure that He has got
a message that would go viral,
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if we reached the world
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and we strategically and
intentionally did that. Yes.
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You know, the
nearest thing to that,
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that we have seen was
the Ten Commandments book
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with Shelley and Danny Shelton.
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Over 10 million
of those went out.
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People don't realize
that's an astronomical number
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for a book and it's still going.
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It's beyond
that-- I'm sure but--
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But, you know, there
are 17 million members
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of the
Seventh-day Adventist church
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and probably
about 25 million people
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that attend church each week,
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but there are 7
billion people in the world
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and what we have is
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as Seventh-day Adventist
Christians is so precious
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and so necessary that we
tell people around the world
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and I know I just
long and pray for the day
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when all 25 million
of us can get together
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and do something together
that would reach the world
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and that the world
would stand up and listen,
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you know, when
everyone does the same thing
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and when a big crowd does
the same thing, it's noteworthy.
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It is and then the
world's media will report
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and they'll say
now what is this?
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What is happening that they're
all doing the same thing?
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They've all got
the same message.
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They've all got the same
campaign, "What is it?" Yeah.
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You know, something I
believe that's gonna happen
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before Christ comes-- I do.
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With all my heart, I do, Jim.
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And it maybe strange way,
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it maybe brought
about by persecution.
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It maybe brought
about by whatever,
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because sometimes bad news
is what the news focuses on.
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The situation
that we've had here,
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you know, folks, it was bad,
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but more people have died with
West Nile virus in United States
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twice as many as have died in
this conflict that took place.
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Now I'm not cheapening that.
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I don't think anyone should
die anytime from anything,
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but you see there are
so many things going on,
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but something like
this is sensational
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and so the news gets right on it
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and they focus it and the
whole world's looking at it.
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And actually even blowing
it beyond what it really was.
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Even though it was bad enough,
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they make a big thing out of it.
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Somehow God's people are
gonna to be a focus in a way
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that is gonna bring
worldwide attention.
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And it may not be fun.
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It may not be
popular at the time,
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but it will be getting that
message across around the world.
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It could be just something
so beautiful that we've shared.
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You know, we've got a wonderful
world president Elder Wilson,
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and he called this
communication summit.
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He is committed to us working
together around the world.
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What if we did
something that was so loving
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and so precious that
people stood up and listened?
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You know, our job is to
tell people about Jesus.
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A valid answer is I
don't want to hear it. Yeah.
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But what we could
do is just tell people
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what they need to know,
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so that when something
does happen in the economy
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or in natural
disasters or whatever,
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they go, "Ooh, I remember.
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I remember those
people telling me about that."
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That's right. That's true.
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And it brings it back to mind.
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You know, I think
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and I was not able to make that
meeting because of my surgery,
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but one of the
things that I think
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we will shift into is that media
particularly Adventist media
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will in and off itself,
you know, there's a time
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when the preacher preached
and the media reported about it
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or someone did something
and the media report about it,
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but I think media itself
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will become an integral part
of the finishing of the work.
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And I think as we coordinate
our different media outlets,
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we ought to--whenever
and wherever people are,
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we ought to be there.
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That's physically,
that's in the cyber world,
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that's in the electronic world,
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wherever there's an
ear, or an eye, or a heart,
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the Adventist
message ought to be there.
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And so I think media
not only should they report
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on what preachers are
doing, I think they themselves
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ought to be integral in
the finishing of the work.
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And I think you
agree with me in that idea.
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God is going to
show us how to go
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and I don't want to
use the term take back,
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for me that's what it is,
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some of these things that
the devil has owned for too long
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that we're gonna have to use
for the finishing of the work.
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And I think as media
flexes its spiritual muscles,
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dare I say, and
becomes very aggressive
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that God will use it in
a powerful, powerful way.
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We know now
that when television,
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3ABN in particular, goes into
certain areas, things happen,
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pots begin to bubble
and souls begin to come
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and I think the
more that is expanded,
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there was a time when there
was no television presence,
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now there are a slew of stations
all preaching the gospel
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and we cannot
have too much of that.
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But the beautiful
part is that you said
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wherever there's a heart and
it's people loving the people
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that the media brings
into the church. Yeah, amen.
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So it's a working
together. Yeah, so much.
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Joanne, thank you
so very, very much.
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Thank you for
your love for the Lord,
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for your media
background and for those talents
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that you bring
to the work of God.
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It's been a
pleasure. God bless you.
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Thank you. God bless
you. Good to see you.
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Well, listen this and we're
getting so many great emails
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and we want to say,
well, Shelley is coming in.
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I want to say that those of you
that are trying to reach Roger
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and you're coming
through me, that's fine.
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You just send them on to me
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and I will forward
them to Dr. Roger Robertson
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and many of you have asked
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what is the best
way to come to Israel?
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Should you come and stay there,
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that might work for you
as I would come as a group.
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As individuals, the best way
is come with a trip like ours
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and it really is
because it's organized.
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In the end, it
won't cost you any more
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because we're able
to as a group secure
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some of these
costs at a lot lower rate
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than you can as an individual.
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Well, Shelley, it's
good to have you with us.
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Well, it's exciting to be here.
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And I just want to say to those
of you at home, Shabbat Shalom.
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You know, J.D. and I
came with you yesterday--
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we are awake, aren't we? Right.
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Last year and it
was life changing for us
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because we've really--
it made the Bible come alive
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and our guide Malcolm
Cartier last year was wonderful.
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This year it
has been even better
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because everything
we learned last year,
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it is just
coming together for us,
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you know, and
you're already familiar.
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I just can't wait to
come back again. Right.
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And we can't wait
for you to come back.
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Well, tell us you had
some experiences though
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that were exciting too,
witnessing and so forth?
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Absolutely, and you know we're
with such a wonderful group
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and we watch them.
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They are great
ambassadors for the Lord,
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as they're out
talking with shopkeepers
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and we've had people
ask about our beliefs.
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I think for me the highlights
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are when you stand on
the Mount of Beatitudes
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where Christ gave His inaugural
address as King of the universe
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and then like today where
we were at the garden tomb,
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Golgotha the garden tomb, and
then having communion together.
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It cements relationships and
to watch the people on our bus
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how they are growing,
how there is so many tears.
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We've had
people who've said that
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their emotions have been
blocked for a year or 2 years
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and suddenly every thing's come
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and they feel like they're
reconnecting with the Lord.
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It's wonderful--
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One of the things
that I actually read about
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this trip has been very healing,
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because as we found out
today during testimony time,
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there are a number
of people on this trip
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who've lost children, husbands,
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you know, very, very
close and to come and to sort of
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just bask in the
sunshine of the love of Christ
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and fellow
Adventist is a healing thing.
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Yeah, several
ladies have lost husbands.
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One young mother who had a child
that was shocked and killed
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only a few months ago and
she says that she feels that
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this has been a
great healing experience.
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Well, listen, we
can't keep you too long,
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but I want to
talk to some of those
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that have been
helping us with this trip,
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because it's a
ministry for them.
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Greg Riley, I began first
working with his grandfather
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Richard Riley over 30 years ago
and then with his father Mike
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and now Greg and I
want to tell you something,
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I liked his grandfather,
and I liked his father,
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but I like Greg
better than both of them--
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This is kind of in
your DNA, man. It is, it is.
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It is, I mean, if you
got a child coming on you--
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Two of them, two boys.
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We got to start grooming
them into the business also.
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All right, this is right in the
family tradition. It is, it is.
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Yeah, well, Greg, we
welcome you and tell us,
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I know you have expressed to me
that this is a ministry to you,
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tell me a little bit about it.
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Well, as you said, my
grandfather started this
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38 years ago now.
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My father is in it
and he was a missionary
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and when he came
back from India--
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Your
grandfather? My grandfather,
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and one of his friends said,
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"Hey, we got a fam trip, let's
take you to the holy land."
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And he went and
came back and said,
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"That's it,
everybody has to go."
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So from then till now,
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we've been sending
people to the holy land monthly.
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Yes, well, I can
understand his enthusiasm,
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because to be honest
with you, my first trip,
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I did not have
a good experience.
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I had a very--I had a
guide I couldn't understand
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and see this is why
we have worked so hard
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to get guides that
people can understand,
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who get guides
who are Christians,
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to get the organization set up
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so that it's
friendly to our people,
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because that first
trip I came it wasn't.
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But when I came
back the second time,
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I got Malcolm
Cartier and from then on,
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I have over 20
something trips with him
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and we're gonna meet
him in a little bit. Yes.
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But it's been an exciting time.
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But, Greg, I know we got
a lot of people to talk to.
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Do you have
anything you wanted to share?
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We're happy to serve you
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and looking
forward to maybe next year
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serving a group in
the holy land again.
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Well, we hope you good.
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We'll see you
tomorrow in the bus.
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All right, okay, thanks, Greg.
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Now listen they've got
people of all ages on this trip.
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We have one family,
they have their two children
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that are like of
what-- I think they are 11--
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Between 10 and
12 certainly, yeah.
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And these are two of
the greatest kids. They are.
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Ryan, a little boy, he is
just into this trip so much
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and the parents are
just wonderful folks.
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Yeah, Ryan was
taking the pictures
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when we were in the
baptism oath-- Yeah.
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In the Jordan the
other day doing baptism
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and the little boy
was taking the pictures
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and doing very, very fine job.
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Very well behaved and you like
to have nice children like that
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who are paying attention,
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who are listening
as part of your tour.
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Now, C.A., I have little
bit of a conflict of interest
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in this particular guest.
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Would you do this part
of the interview for me?
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I think you and he share
the same name. Yes, we do.
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You know, the other day, I was
trying to call you in your room
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and I dialed the number
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and I heard this voice,
I said, "That's not Jim."
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And I said, "Is
this Jim Gilley?"
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He said, "Yeah,
this is Jim Gilley."
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I said, "No you're not.
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You're not Jim
Gilley. I know his voice.
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You're not Jim Gilley."
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But it was Jim Gilley,
I guess, the III. The III.
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Yeah, the third Jim Gilley,
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took a little time
out to be with us. Yes.
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I guess, he's the only
person on this particular trip
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sub 20 and-- Yeah, and
that's not with their parents.
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Yeah, you are right,
who's not with their parents.
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But what we want to ask
you is first time here? Yes.
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Yeah, your impressions
as an academy student
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attending an Adventist Academy.
Where do you go to school? Yeah.
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Sunnydale Adventist Academy.
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Okay, a little
commercial for Sunnydale and--
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And they're in Centralia,
Missouri. Centralia, Missouri.
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It's a great
school. I love it there.
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All right.
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Why did you want to come
and now that you've come,
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what do you think?
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Well, I wanted to
come because it's the place
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I've been reading about
since I was a little kid
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and to finally see it come alive
all the stories that I've read,
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it's really been a
good experience for me.
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Less than you
thought, more than you thought,
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exactly what you thought,
how has it impressed you?
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Well, I really didn't
know what to think coming here.
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That was kind of just surprising
but it's been really cool.
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Now just between me and you,
traveling with your grandfather,
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good thing or has it
been kind of, you know?
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It's been really great.
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Okay, you are
politically correct.
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I tell you his dad's
been one of my favorite
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travel partners
through the years too.
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And my kids, I love
traveling with them.
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It gives us--over the years,
it gives us an opportunity
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to be close to them,
spend some real quality time.
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Yeah, your kids did evangelism
with you for many years.
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Oh, yes, absolutely and
working as kids, I mean,
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you know, but then
everyone had a job to do
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and were very much
a part of the team.
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Marianne always ran the
sound, my son Jim, his dad,
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ran the computer, and took care
of all the slides and so forth.
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Their son John always
ran the spotlight and Amy,
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she just kind of ran around
and helped with-- Just ran.
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Right, but she was
our youngest daughter,
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but every once in a
while, I've had them say to me,
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"We got to go somewhere and
do a meeting again sometime."
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Well, Jim, we got to move along.
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But--we do thanks,
my friend, for coming,
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my grandson. Thank you.
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By the way, I had the privilege
00:19:54.91\00:19:56.80
of baptizing Jimmy
in the Jordan River.
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And we baptized,
how many 35 was it?
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It was a good number--
I think it was 35 people.
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Many of them were rebaptisms,
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but they were
meaning for rebaptisms.
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And there was one for sure
that was a brand new baptism.
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And she gave her
heart to the Lord.
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And, boy, I tell you the
devil has fought her so hard,
00:20:20.19\00:20:24.08
but she needs
holding on to Jesus
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and it's an exciting thing.
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Yeah, you know what, Jim,
we're kind of slipping in here.
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I had something happen
in that baptismal service
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that never happened
in 38 years of ministry.
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I had a lady
float away from here,
00:20:37.36\00:20:38.87
in fact she
floated right down that--
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she did she float down to
J.D., you kind of saved me.
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I thought you told me
you were fish nibbling--
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With fish
nibbling I've had before
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when I baptized in
fresh water before,
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but she kind of just laid
out and she just floated down.
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I never had that happen before.
00:20:54.75\00:20:56.12
I thought I had
pretty good technique.
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You caught her
though. Yeah, we got her.
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Yeah, we've never
lost anyone in a baptism.
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Oh, you just
stand up, it's not deep.
00:21:01.99\00:21:03.37
No, it's right, it's right.
00:21:03.40\00:21:06.13
This is J.D. Quinn. Yeah.
00:21:06.16\00:21:07.65
You know him very well.
00:21:07.68\00:21:09.05
He is the director of our
pastoral department at 3ABN,
00:21:09.08\00:21:10.45
husband of Shelley Quinn
00:21:11.70\00:21:13.07
and J.D. Quinn is
like a father in Israel.
00:21:13.10\00:21:15.31
What do you say? He is.
00:21:15.34\00:21:16.71
I tell you more people pray with
J.D. than anybody I know of.
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Really, really he does.
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He prays with a lot
of people all the time
00:21:22.42\00:21:24.95
and we just
appreciate him so very much.
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You know, we have
something happening
00:21:27.35\00:21:29.48
right now in the United States.
00:21:29.51\00:21:32.52
One of our
young men, Kyle Warne,
00:21:32.55\00:21:36.20
his father Mike died this week
of a heart attack. Very sudden.
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And Kyle and his
brother, uh... Matthew.
00:21:42.36\00:21:46.05
Matthew--his sister
Ruth. Yeah, and they just--
00:21:46.08\00:21:53.92
it just was a tragic sudden
death for a man in his 50s
00:21:53.95\00:21:57.89
that heart attack that
just took him immediately.
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They're having a
funeral this very hour
00:22:03.19\00:22:06.41
and we want to remember them.
00:22:06.44\00:22:08.73
In fact, J.D., I'm gonna
ask you to have a prayer.
00:22:08.76\00:22:12.29
We've not had a
prayer in our meeting so far
00:22:12.32\00:22:15.34
and I'm gonna ask you
to have a prayer right now
00:22:15.37\00:22:18.83
for the family and
for all those who maybe
00:22:18.86\00:22:21.94
hurting around
in the world. Amen.
00:22:21.97\00:22:23.52
Would you pray?
00:22:23.55\00:22:25.19
Oh, Father, we come to
You in the name of Jesus
00:22:25.22\00:22:27.43
and we just thank you, Lord,
00:22:27.46\00:22:28.83
that You are
the great comforter.
00:22:28.86\00:22:31.27
And, Father, as we
come to You right now
00:22:31.30\00:22:33.35
during this major loss,
00:22:33.38\00:22:35.36
a premature loss
in our opinion, Lord,
00:22:35.39\00:22:37.88
Father, but Your ways
are higher than our ways
00:22:37.91\00:22:39.85
and we don't understand them.
00:22:39.88\00:22:41.44
But, Father, this
was such a godly man,
00:22:41.47\00:22:43.24
Mike was such a godly
man and everyone loved him.
00:22:43.27\00:22:45.54
And he's got two precious
boys and a precious girl
00:22:45.57\00:22:50.12
and a very precious wife, Lord.
00:22:50.15\00:22:52.09
And we're just asking that
You will be with them, Lord,
00:22:52.12\00:22:54.36
that You will wrap
Your arms around them,
00:22:54.39\00:22:56.26
and that You will give
them the comfort needed, Lord.
00:22:56.29\00:22:58.42
And that You will just give them
00:22:58.45\00:23:00.80
a better
understanding of the planet
00:23:00.83\00:23:02.34
You have for their life, Lord.
00:23:02.37\00:23:03.84
And, Father, there
are many people, Lord,
00:23:03.87\00:23:06.29
right now that have
different issues in life.
00:23:06.32\00:23:10.15
And, Father, as we just
stand in the gap for them,
00:23:10.18\00:23:12.32
we just lift them up
to you and just ask, Lord,
00:23:12.35\00:23:14.45
that You will just bless
them according to their needs,
00:23:14.48\00:23:19.19
their desires, Lord, but what we
want more than anything, Lord,
00:23:19.22\00:23:22.33
is that our will is
lined up with Yours,
00:23:22.36\00:23:24.77
because then we know, Lord,
that we're walking with You
00:23:24.80\00:23:29.27
with Your arms around us
to smooth the road before us.
00:23:29.30\00:23:32.75
So, Father, we
thank You and we love You
00:23:32.78\00:23:34.52
and we ask this in
the name of Jesus. Amen.
00:23:34.55\00:23:36.86
Amen. Amen.
00:23:36.89\00:23:38.26
You know, J.D., you
were with us last year
00:23:38.29\00:23:41.64
and Shelley expressed
how much the trip meant
00:23:41.67\00:23:46.23
and then how much
it's meant this year.
00:23:46.26\00:23:49.48
How was your response?
00:23:49.51\00:23:50.95
Let me just share
this if I can real quick,
00:23:50.98\00:23:53.64
because I've been
keeping a day timer for 37 years
00:23:53.67\00:23:57.35
and let me just kind of
just share in 15 or 20 seconds,
00:23:57.38\00:24:01.19
what we do every day.
00:24:01.37\00:24:02.74
We started with
the Sea of Galilee,
00:24:02.86\00:24:04.70
then we went to
Chorazin National Park,
00:24:04.73\00:24:07.33
then we went to
Caesarea Philippi,
00:24:07.36\00:24:09.68
then we went to the
source of the Jordan.
00:24:09.71\00:24:12.20
I mean, its looks like
the Glacier National Park,
00:24:12.23\00:24:14.99
the water is so beautiful
00:24:15.02\00:24:16.52
and there's such an
object lesson there is
00:24:16.55\00:24:18.68
as we get further
away from the source,
00:24:18.71\00:24:20.31
we get further away
from Jesus, you know.
00:24:20.34\00:24:22.55
And then we start,
00:24:22.58\00:24:23.95
then the next day we're at
the Beit She'an National Park
00:24:23.98\00:24:27.03
and fantastic ruins by
one of Herod's model cities
00:24:27.06\00:24:35.03
and then we went to Tiberius
the Mount of Beatitudes,
00:24:35.06\00:24:39.29
we went to
Capernaum, we went then--
00:24:39.32\00:24:42.47
and had this wonderful baptism,
00:24:42.50\00:24:44.87
what a wonderful
baptism in the Jordan.
00:24:44.90\00:24:47.45
And I'll just quickly go,
00:24:47.48\00:24:49.11
we went to
Megiddo, the national park,
00:24:49.14\00:24:51.11
we went to where Mount Carmel,
00:24:51.14\00:24:54.47
when Elijah was there,
00:24:54.50\00:24:56.16
we went to Caesarea there
right on the Mediterranean,
00:24:56.19\00:25:01.03
then we went to Jericho,
00:25:01.06\00:25:03.59
we went to the sycamore
tree that Zacchaeus went up,
00:25:03.62\00:25:06.86
I mean, these
were just things that--
00:25:06.89\00:25:08.39
we went to Messara Qumran
00:25:08.42\00:25:09.89
where the Dead Sea
scrolls were discovered.
00:25:09.92\00:25:12.70
We went to the Dead Sea
of what you cannot sink,
00:25:12.73\00:25:15.79
your legs were sticking
up, your arms were sticking up
00:25:15.82\00:25:18.66
and it's just like
sitting in a rocking chair.
00:25:18.69\00:25:21.29
And then, today we started
off with the Mount of Olives,
00:25:21.32\00:25:26.02
then we went to the
Eastern Gate, mercy grace,
00:25:26.05\00:25:29.55
we went to the Palm Sunday Path,
00:25:29.58\00:25:31.91
we went to the
Garden of Gethsemane.
00:25:31.94\00:25:33.64
What a precious place, you know,
00:25:33.67\00:25:35.75
that everyone can sit
there and pray together.
00:25:35.78\00:25:38.79
And as Joanne brought
to you, the 27 echoes,
00:25:38.82\00:25:43.02
Pastor Gilley here as he said,
00:25:43.05\00:25:45.48
he says, I've been a frustrated
choir director all my life
00:25:45.51\00:25:49.26
and I'll guarantee you, we
have people that can sing like--
00:25:49.29\00:25:52.37
Just to be making up. Oh, yeah.
00:25:52.40\00:25:53.77
It was absolutely fantastic
"How Great Thou Art." Yeah.
00:25:53.80\00:25:57.42
You know, and so then I just
want to say one thing in closing
00:25:57.45\00:26:03.02
and that all the guests here,
00:26:03.05\00:26:04.74
before we came we dinner
00:26:04.77\00:26:06.14
and they say,
hello, hello, hello,
00:26:06.17\00:26:07.86
that they're
enjoying and they love it.
00:26:07.89\00:26:10.17
And so anyway. Okay.
00:26:10.20\00:26:13.00
Well, listen, J.D.,
00:26:13.03\00:26:14.40
we appreciate
you coming in for us.
00:26:14.43\00:26:15.80
And we wanted to
talk to a number of people
00:26:15.83\00:26:18.38
and let you visit with some
00:26:18.41\00:26:19.78
and one of those
with a great voice
00:26:19.81\00:26:22.21
is this gentlemen right here.
00:26:22.24\00:26:24.57
Yeah. Pastor Hall.
00:26:24.60\00:26:27.23
Gladwin Hall, he's
become our de facto song leader,
00:26:27.26\00:26:31.05
'cause he has the great
voice, he leads songs very well.
00:26:31.08\00:26:33.73
Good to have you here,
man. Greatful to be here.
00:26:33.76\00:26:35.98
First time. Very first time.
00:26:36.01\00:26:37.88
And it's a million
times better than I imagined.
00:26:37.91\00:26:42.31
And I'm not a pastor
and I'm not a song leader,
00:26:42.34\00:26:45.30
really, I describe myself as
one who makes a joyful noise.
00:26:45.33\00:26:50.24
Amen. That's just me. Yeah.
00:26:50.27\00:26:52.71
You are a very, very
enthusiastic song leader.
00:26:52.74\00:26:57.06
The group is so
special and you know,
00:26:57.09\00:26:59.77
the variety and everything
00:26:59.80\00:27:01.17
and that just
inspires me, it's beautiful.
00:27:01.20\00:27:03.92
Now looking at
the joy in your faces,
00:27:03.95\00:27:05.35
I think this trip has
exceeded your expectations.
00:27:05.38\00:27:07.82
Way, way beyond my dreams.
00:27:07.85\00:27:09.47
With the violence and
everything at the beginning,
00:27:09.50\00:27:12.92
there was some concern.
00:27:12.95\00:27:14.32
The last
Sabbath, my church family
00:27:14.35\00:27:16.37
at the Heart Lake SDA Church
had a special prayer for me,
00:27:16.40\00:27:19.76
I didn't expect that.
00:27:19.79\00:27:21.16
They had a special
prayer for me in Sabbath school
00:27:21.19\00:27:23.66
and after that prayer,
00:27:23.69\00:27:25.13
I just felt that there was
nothing that'll stop me. Wow.
00:27:25.16\00:27:27.81
Yeah, I just feel
a heart to be here
00:27:27.84\00:27:29.76
and whatever it
takes, I know that I am here,
00:27:29.79\00:27:33.56
it's just
beautiful, it's beyond belief.
00:27:33.59\00:27:37.69
The thing that
lingers in my mind,
00:27:37.72\00:27:40.39
the first impression--
00:27:40.42\00:27:41.79
Well, first of all, I
learned a number of things,
00:27:41.82\00:27:43.97
one, that the Sea of Galilee
is not salt. Big revelation.
00:27:44.00\00:27:49.28
But our trip on that
boat on that Sea of Galilee,
00:27:49.31\00:27:53.21
I will remember
until my dying days.
00:27:53.24\00:27:55.82
It was just overwhelming,
00:27:55.85\00:27:58.69
it was just too much.
00:27:58.72\00:28:00.09
I almost couldn't
breathe, you know,
00:28:00.12\00:28:03.25
I just see Jesus there with us.
00:28:03.28\00:28:05.41
And it was
great, it was beautiful.
00:28:05.44\00:28:08.21
I don't know How else to put it.
00:28:08.24\00:28:09.77
Yeah, praise God, praise God.
00:28:09.80\00:28:11.42
Well, I can tell
you're excited about it
00:28:11.45\00:28:14.13
and we want you to come back
00:28:14.16\00:28:16.79
and go with us again
sometime. Oh, I will, I will.
00:28:16.82\00:28:19.44
And I have a bunch
of friends who I'm sure,
00:28:19.47\00:28:21.64
when I go back and
report and tell them that,
00:28:21.67\00:28:24.09
they're gonna
want to be here. Yeah.
00:28:24.12\00:28:26.07
You have already ended this.
00:28:26.10\00:28:27.96
Before we let you go,
00:28:27.99\00:28:29.37
I want to ask
you a quick question.
00:28:29.40\00:28:30.77
Are you a watcher of 3ABN?
00:28:30.80\00:28:32.23
How did you find out about this?
00:28:32.26\00:28:33.65
Oh, I'm a big fan of 3ABN.
00:28:33.68\00:28:37.21
I watched the every
week and I purchased things
00:28:37.24\00:28:40.13
and so forth and
I got a newsletter.
00:28:40.16\00:28:42.70
That's how I got it. Okay.
00:28:42.73\00:28:44.30
And I was just
beyond excited. All right.
00:28:44.33\00:28:47.78
And I jumped on it immediately
00:28:47.81\00:28:49.73
and I have not
regretted a cent or a second.
00:28:49.76\00:28:55.08
Well done, all right. Thank you.
00:28:55.11\00:28:58.05
All right, we're glad,
God bless. We will see you.
00:28:58.08\00:29:00.07
Well you know, one
of the things that,
00:29:00.10\00:29:01.65
as we said, makes our
trips spiritually exciting
00:29:01.68\00:29:06.08
and informative is to
have a real good guide.
00:29:06.11\00:29:09.44
Yeah. It's so important.
00:29:09.47\00:29:11.20
We're gonna talk to
some of these guides,
00:29:11.23\00:29:12.81
right now that we've had.
00:29:12.84\00:29:15.11
And this is one right here.
This is the guy on my bus, so--
00:29:15.14\00:29:17.21
That's your man.
And he is on our bus.
00:29:17.24\00:29:21.43
This guy knows
his stuff. He does.
00:29:21.46\00:29:23.38
Yeah, and he's calm,
00:29:23.41\00:29:25.29
he's cool, he's collected. Yeah.
00:29:25.32\00:29:27.06
He only got a
little rattled one time.
00:29:27.09\00:29:28.48
We had this group
kind of filter in our group
00:29:28.51\00:29:30.26
and cut through our group.
00:29:30.29\00:29:31.66
And that kind of
rattled him a little bit
00:29:31.69\00:29:33.06
because this group
kept coming into our group,
00:29:33.09\00:29:34.46
he is trying to talk and people
are filtering through. Yeah.
00:29:34.49\00:29:36.53
But he's a good guy
and he knows his stuff.
00:29:36.56\00:29:37.94
Good to have you, on board, man.
00:29:37.97\00:29:39.34
Well, good to be here. Yeah.
00:29:39.37\00:29:40.76
How long have you been guiding?
00:29:40.79\00:29:42.16
I asked that same question.
00:29:42.19\00:29:43.56
13 years now. Is that right?
00:29:43.59\00:29:45.55
Yeah. 13 years.
00:29:45.58\00:29:47.06
What was, kind of, the thing
that got you started doing this?
00:29:47.09\00:29:49.63
Well, you know, pastor
it never crossed my mind
00:29:49.66\00:29:54.55
years before I
started doing this
00:29:54.58\00:29:55.97
that I would ever be
doing that sort of thing.
00:29:56.00\00:29:58.33
I came from a completely
different field. Yeah.
00:29:58.36\00:30:01.73
I was in medicine, you
know, I was educated in Jersey.
00:30:01.76\00:30:04.27
Yeah, you told us,
went to school in Jersey.
00:30:04.30\00:30:06.31
School in New Jersey,
four years of pre-medicine
00:30:06.34\00:30:09.09
and then another
year of medical genetics
00:30:09.12\00:30:12.74
here at the Hebrew University.
00:30:12.77\00:30:15.25
And then my cousin came to me
00:30:15.28\00:30:16.78
and he said let's do
this tour guiding course.
00:30:16.81\00:30:18.74
And I said, I have no
interest, I have no time. Yeah.
00:30:18.77\00:30:22.31
Well, to cut a long story
short, to get him off my back,
00:30:22.34\00:30:25.04
I said okay, I'll come
with you and I'll do it.
00:30:25.07\00:30:28.32
And I had no idea why I
was doing it at that time,
00:30:28.35\00:30:30.93
but now I do know why,
because the official title says,
00:30:30.96\00:30:35.52
tour guide, but there's
a lot more to it than this.
00:30:35.55\00:30:38.21
I've been doing
this for 13 years
00:30:38.24\00:30:39.65
and I said, when I
started doing this,
00:30:39.68\00:30:41.80
I'll put my
genetics program on hold
00:30:41.83\00:30:43.99
and I'll come back to it when
I'm done with the tour guide,
00:30:44.02\00:30:47.70
because it's a long
process of training.
00:30:47.73\00:30:49.51
Its three years of training
and I never went back to that.
00:30:49.54\00:30:52.64
And I love what I'm doing,
it's not just tour guiding,
00:30:52.67\00:30:55.96
it's sharing the word,
it's sharing a moment of faith
00:30:55.99\00:30:59.30
and, you know, when you
get an email from someone
00:30:59.33\00:31:02.06
who has been on a trip
and he says or she says,
00:31:02.09\00:31:05.01
you know, "I'm reading the Bible
00:31:05.04\00:31:06.41
and it sounds
completely different now"
00:31:06.44\00:31:07.81
or you get a word from
the pastor and he says,
00:31:07.84\00:31:09.60
"I quoted you in a
sermon today," it just makes--
00:31:09.63\00:31:12.57
the feeling is
just-- I can't describe it,
00:31:12.60\00:31:16.09
you'd have to experience that
00:31:16.12\00:31:18.01
to be able to know
what it feels like.
00:31:18.04\00:31:19.58
You know, today we had
people give their testimonies
00:31:19.61\00:31:22.61
at the Garden
Tomb after communion.
00:31:22.64\00:31:26.38
When you sit
there and you hear them
00:31:26.41\00:31:28.81
tell about what
this has meant to them,
00:31:28.84\00:31:32.45
don't you feel the
depth of a ministry?
00:31:32.48\00:31:35.57
The joy is just so deep
00:31:35.60\00:31:38.34
and you feel like you have
really touched somebody's life.
00:31:38.37\00:31:42.16
Because they've been listening
to you all week. Exactly.
00:31:42.19\00:31:45.63
And now they are
having this communion
00:31:45.66\00:31:51.12
and they are now expressing
00:31:51.15\00:31:54.35
what this is happening to
their soul and to their lives
00:31:54.38\00:31:58.07
and the depth of
their spiritual growth,
00:31:58.10\00:32:00.81
it's happening in a short
week time of study and prayer
00:32:00.84\00:32:05.42
and intense--it's an intensive,
it really is. It is, it is.
00:32:05.45\00:32:08.55
But it is life, literally,
we use that old term a lot,
00:32:08.58\00:32:11.92
but it is
literally life changing.
00:32:11.95\00:32:14.02
It is life changing--
00:32:14.05\00:32:15.42
So you're in a
life changing business,
00:32:15.45\00:32:17.69
so to say, ministry.
00:32:17.72\00:32:19.42
I'm just a tool,
we all are. Yeah.
00:32:19.45\00:32:23.11
Oh, absolutely,
but God is using you
00:32:23.14\00:32:26.32
and the
information that you supply
00:32:26.35\00:32:29.53
to bring about this
inspiration because, you know,
00:32:29.56\00:32:32.70
we have a little
devotional time with everybody,
00:32:32.73\00:32:35.41
but the time that
they spend with you
00:32:35.44\00:32:39.38
is the time that I feel impacts
them more than anything else.
00:32:39.41\00:32:44.51
That's true. Yeah.
00:32:44.54\00:32:46.08
It's very important for
a guide to love the Lord,
00:32:46.11\00:32:50.34
to understand the
geography and the archeology
00:32:50.37\00:32:57.13
and all of the
things about the areas,
00:32:57.16\00:33:01.24
so that he can share
those particular things.
00:33:01.27\00:33:04.04
Yeah, and now
you said very early
00:33:04.07\00:33:05.69
on when we met you,
you were a Christian,
00:33:05.72\00:33:07.46
you talked about the church you
went to, you did some things.
00:33:07.49\00:33:10.69
You give out massive
amounts of information,
00:33:10.72\00:33:13.10
it's all in here, because
you're not looking at a paper,
00:33:13.13\00:33:15.58
really, it's just coming from
your head and from your heart.
00:33:15.61\00:33:18.51
So you really believe that
what you're doing is ministry,
00:33:18.54\00:33:20.77
because I can hear that
passion that it comes with
00:33:20.80\00:33:24.34
and it's coming from your heart.
00:33:24.37\00:33:25.74
You know this stuff,
00:33:25.77\00:33:27.14
you know the text,
00:33:27.17\00:33:28.54
you know the history.
00:33:28.57\00:33:29.94
Do you pray up
before you go before a group
00:33:29.97\00:33:31.79
or are you
looking to say something
00:33:31.82\00:33:33.70
or looking to change
a heart or anything--
00:33:33.73\00:33:35.32
No, well, do I pray? Yes.
00:33:35.35\00:33:37.23
But it just
comes naturally to you.
00:33:37.26\00:33:40.78
I say, it's a gift.
00:33:40.81\00:33:43.43
Well, yeah, and I said it
00:33:43.46\00:33:44.93
and I say it beginning of every
tour as a local question. Yes.
00:33:44.96\00:33:48.33
My philosophy with this is
that the land is fifth gospel.
00:33:48.36\00:33:51.93
When you come
and you see the land
00:33:51.96\00:33:53.36
and you see
everything in the land,
00:33:53.39\00:33:55.19
geography, topography
even animals and plants
00:33:55.22\00:33:57.86
and you talk to the people
and you see the living stones,
00:33:57.89\00:34:00.23
it just makes it a lot
more alive and lot more colorful
00:34:00.26\00:34:02.99
and that's what I try
to concentrate on. Yes.
00:34:03.02\00:34:05.47
On these trips and I think
it's been successful so far
00:34:05.50\00:34:08.55
So far, yes it has.
00:34:08.58\00:34:09.95
George, thank you
so very, very much.
00:34:09.98\00:34:11.35
Well, thank you.
00:34:11.38\00:34:12.75
He is the tour
guide of the red bus,
00:34:12.78\00:34:14.15
that's our bus. That's it.
00:34:14.18\00:34:15.55
And then, you know,
he was calling "red bus!"
00:34:15.58\00:34:16.95
You know, time to come on back.
00:34:16.98\00:34:18.35
Yes. He is part of that.
00:34:18.38\00:34:19.75
All right, they
were asking for us
00:34:19.78\00:34:22.02
to put that mike right
over in front of our guest.
00:34:22.05\00:34:26.11
And you and I have to get
closer together than we like.
00:34:26.14\00:34:31.44
But it's alright.
00:34:31.47\00:34:33.43
And now we have the
guide of our blue bus
00:34:33.46\00:34:37.19
and I want you to introduce
this guy, this is Yehuda.
00:34:37.22\00:34:42.14
This is Yehuda. Shalom.
00:34:42.17\00:34:43.54
And you are messianic Jew
and that means he is Jewish
00:34:43.57\00:34:51.20
but he's accepted the Lord
Jesus Christ as his Savior.
00:34:51.23\00:34:54.91
And tell us a little bit about--
00:34:54.94\00:34:58.15
we've just visited with George
00:34:58.18\00:35:01.09
and he shared with
us about his ministry
00:35:01.12\00:35:04.19
and what about how you
feel about it as a ministry?
00:35:04.22\00:35:08.70
Well, I see again that it's not
just a job, that it's really--
00:35:08.73\00:35:16.11
guiding is really
helping people and I'm so--
00:35:16.14\00:35:21.47
I feel privileged to
be with Maranatha Tours
00:35:21.50\00:35:26.22
which help to bring people
that the hungry and thirst
00:35:26.25\00:35:30.77
for the word of
God to get to know God
00:35:30.80\00:35:33.29
and there's no
other place in the world
00:35:33.32\00:35:36.27
that you can find it.
00:35:36.30\00:35:37.67
I mean, just in this
city where we're sitting now,
00:35:37.70\00:35:41.41
is the city of
Jerusalem which is chosen by God
00:35:41.44\00:35:45.69
and people
coming here to the land.
00:35:45.72\00:35:48.71
And again, they
obviously heard of the places,
00:35:48.74\00:35:54.48
but there's nothing
like reading the Bible
00:35:54.51\00:35:58.21
and being at the place
where those things happened,
00:35:58.24\00:36:02.00
where miracles
happened, where teaching,
00:36:02.03\00:36:05.66
those words were
said at the place
00:36:05.69\00:36:08.14
and you're sitting and
you're reading the word
00:36:08.17\00:36:10.11
and you actually look
around, you see the place
00:36:10.14\00:36:14.00
and not only you get the
perspective in the geography
00:36:14.03\00:36:18.35
but again, the
scripture, the geography,
00:36:18.38\00:36:21.35
the land, the
custom, you get know,
00:36:21.38\00:36:24.27
learn the custom of
the people at the time,
00:36:24.30\00:36:27.10
what they used to
dress, how they used to walk,
00:36:27.13\00:36:29.77
rather than
driving a bus or a car.
00:36:29.80\00:36:32.92
And it's making
then also personal,
00:36:32.95\00:36:38.22
to you yourself sitting
at the place and thinking
00:36:38.25\00:36:43.43
how this word is
gonna speak to me
00:36:43.46\00:36:46.39
and suddenly the
words not only come alive,
00:36:46.42\00:36:49.73
but God speak to you.
00:36:49.76\00:36:51.15
Yes. Praise God.
00:36:51.18\00:36:52.55
And the good
thing I say here is that
00:36:52.58\00:36:55.05
it doesn't you cost a
lot because it's a local call
00:36:55.08\00:36:57.67
and you can call God
and speak to Him directly.
00:36:57.70\00:37:01.34
Yeah. And you can hear him.
00:37:01.37\00:37:04.18
Yeah. I like that, I
do. Well, that's great.
00:37:04.21\00:37:06.30
Yehuda, we heard
part of your testimony.
00:37:06.33\00:37:08.18
You were a world class athlete,
an Olympic class athlete.
00:37:08.21\00:37:13.13
George told us how he
came in to be a tour guide.
00:37:13.16\00:37:16.04
How did that happen for you?
Was it something you aspired to?
00:37:16.07\00:37:18.61
Kind of slipped into? How
did you become a tour guide?
00:37:18.64\00:37:22.04
You know, we always want to
call it tour guide ministry,
00:37:22.07\00:37:24.12
because we're seeing
that, that it is a ministry,
00:37:24.15\00:37:26.21
but how did things happen?
00:37:26.24\00:37:27.61
I think even more for you
than most people I've known.
00:37:27.64\00:37:29.58
So how did you come to that?
00:37:29.61\00:37:33.17
Well, first of all, love to meet
people from all over the world.
00:37:33.20\00:37:39.34
And people come
from all over the world
00:37:39.37\00:37:41.67
with all different languages,
00:37:41.70\00:37:43.18
they all come here
to the land of the Bible
00:37:43.21\00:37:46.39
because they
want to meet with God,
00:37:46.42\00:37:48.79
they want to hear Him
00:37:48.82\00:37:50.19
and they want to be able
00:37:50.22\00:37:52.40
to understand the
life and the Bible.
00:37:52.43\00:37:56.03
And also for me, I
wanted to help people
00:37:56.06\00:37:59.40
to not only just to take
them from place to place,
00:37:59.43\00:38:03.28
but also to share the
things that I've learned
00:38:03.31\00:38:08.87
when I was little,
about the scripture.
00:38:08.90\00:38:12.26
Reading Isaiah 53,
reading Jeremiah 31,
00:38:12.29\00:38:16.27
reading Micah 5:2 and so on.
00:38:16.30\00:38:19.48
And to be able to
create some hunger in them,
00:38:19.51\00:38:27.18
so when they go home
they can connect the dots
00:38:27.21\00:38:30.68
and they can say, "Wow.
00:38:30.71\00:38:34.05
I want to tell you what
I've learned, what I've seen."
00:38:34.08\00:38:39.13
And then to
share it with others,
00:38:39.16\00:38:41.83
so others can
come because I think
00:38:41.86\00:38:44.03
that if something
else that someone tell you,
00:38:44.06\00:38:47.70
you should come to
the land of the Bible.
00:38:47.73\00:38:50.86
But it's so important to
also be able to pray about it
00:38:50.89\00:38:55.54
and then come yourself and see
00:38:55.57\00:38:58.10
and experience for
yourself. All right.
00:38:58.13\00:39:00.48
And for me to able
to take people around,
00:39:00.51\00:39:04.08
to help them in all their
needs and to share what I know
00:39:04.11\00:39:09.79
and to see them
going home happy and safe
00:39:09.82\00:39:13.80
and so lively, that's
what I really see the blessing.
00:39:13.83\00:39:21.18
Thank you, Yehuda.
God bless you. Bless you.
00:39:21.21\00:39:23.27
I appreciate you
coming and sharing with us.
00:39:23.30\00:39:25.08
I hope to come
out again. All right--
00:39:25.11\00:39:27.11
To see you all and meet you all.
00:39:27.14\00:39:28.89
Shalom. All right.
00:39:28.92\00:39:30.29
Well, listen, we've got one more
guest that we want to talk to
00:39:30.32\00:39:33.19
and this is a man that
I met over 30 years ago.
00:39:33.22\00:39:37.63
He is the man I
mentioned a while ago
00:39:37.66\00:39:39.19
that changed my
whole appreciation
00:39:39.22\00:39:42.35
for this part of the
world because of the knowledge
00:39:42.38\00:39:45.39
that God had given
him through his own study
00:39:45.42\00:39:48.10
and because of the
way that he presents it.
00:39:48.13\00:39:52.37
Malcolm Cartier, we welcome you.
00:39:52.40\00:39:54.30
We're so glad to have you.
00:39:54.33\00:39:55.70
Shalom, shalom. Yes.
00:39:55.73\00:39:57.14
Or as the early
Christians would say,
00:39:57.17\00:39:58.69
Shalom Maranatha. All right.
00:39:58.72\00:40:01.14
But you would know,
the word was Maranatha,
00:40:01.17\00:40:03.23
1 Corinthians
15, "Our Lord comes."
00:40:03.26\00:40:06.66
So I'm saying what better way
to travel than with Maranatha?
00:40:06.69\00:40:09.10
That's right, we
want Him to come soon.
00:40:09.13\00:40:12.10
Malcolm has been my
guide for over 20 trips
00:40:12.13\00:40:15.18
and he would be in
one of them this year.
00:40:15.21\00:40:21.01
We had three last
year on that trip,
00:40:21.04\00:40:24.16
these trips are expandable,
00:40:24.19\00:40:26.30
we can start with one
bus we go to two buses,
00:40:26.33\00:40:28.72
three buses as they fill up.
00:40:28.75\00:40:30.55
So we have no limit
00:40:30.58\00:40:31.95
to how many
people that we can take,
00:40:31.98\00:40:33.99
really, I guess
there would be a limit
00:40:34.02\00:40:36.35
but I don't anticipate
that that'll ever be a problem.
00:40:36.38\00:40:40.19
And reason I mention that
00:40:40.22\00:40:41.59
is someone just
sent me an email,
00:40:41.62\00:40:43.18
said how many
people can you bring?
00:40:43.21\00:40:46.25
And so the important thing
is that we organize these trips
00:40:46.28\00:40:53.61
so that they are spiritual,
so that they are informative
00:40:53.64\00:40:58.60
and so that they're interesting
00:40:58.63\00:41:00.00
and we have a very wonderful
time of fellowship together.
00:41:00.03\00:41:03.82
But-- So we got
together about 30 years ago
00:41:03.85\00:41:07.01
and you really helped me in
my understanding of the word,
00:41:07.04\00:41:12.81
and as we
studied the fifth Gospel.
00:41:12.84\00:41:16.91
But you had
surgery this past year
00:41:16.94\00:41:19.95
and you have had cancer surgery,
00:41:19.98\00:41:23.69
things are going well
because I know a lot of people
00:41:23.72\00:41:26.08
that are watching have
been over here with you.
00:41:26.11\00:41:28.46
And you probably have guided
00:41:28.49\00:41:30.67
more Seventh-day
Adventists than any guide alive
00:41:30.70\00:41:35.34
and we have a large
Seventh-day Adventist world,
00:41:35.37\00:41:38.00
I believe that, really.
00:41:38.03\00:41:40.54
And we had the
largest viewing audience
00:41:40.57\00:41:44.15
of Seventh-day
Adventists in our denomination.
00:41:44.18\00:41:46.55
So we believe that a
lot of them are watching.
00:41:46.58\00:41:48.95
In fact, if you want
to tell Malcolm hello,
00:41:48.98\00:41:51.30
just send me a
message. jim.gilley@3abn.org
00:41:51.33\00:41:56.68
and we'll get it
to him. Thank you.
00:41:56.71\00:41:58.32
But, Malcolm, you've
got a wonderful family,
00:41:58.35\00:42:01.63
I know them, how many children?
00:42:01.66\00:42:03.65
I have three children.
And how many grandchildren?
00:42:03.68\00:42:05.71
We got two grandchildren
at the moment. All right.
00:42:05.74\00:42:08.37
My youngest I
haven't yet seen. All right.
00:42:08.40\00:42:11.26
I would like to hold
him for his circumcision,
00:42:11.29\00:42:14.23
but unfortunately at
that time I was in hospital
00:42:14.26\00:42:16.46
and unable to do so.
00:42:16.49\00:42:17.94
Okay, so you had
to do it by skype.
00:42:17.97\00:42:20.38
So we had to do it by skype.
00:42:20.41\00:42:21.78
Yes, this is the
modern world we live in.
00:42:21.81\00:42:23.72
That's right, right.
00:42:23.75\00:42:25.79
Well, tell us a little bit now,
00:42:25.82\00:42:27.85
you really feel that
when you present the word,
00:42:27.88\00:42:31.13
you are helping people have
a deeper spiritual experience?
00:42:31.16\00:42:35.31
Most definitely, yes.
00:42:35.34\00:42:36.79
I think it was Paul that said,
00:42:36.82\00:42:38.41
"It is insufficient to tell,
you have give up your self."
00:42:38.44\00:42:41.65
We all have to
give up ourselves.
00:42:41.68\00:42:44.41
And here when people
come to the Promised Land
00:42:44.44\00:42:46.60
which is the
geo-political historical center
00:42:46.63\00:42:49.58
of where it all happened.
00:42:49.61\00:42:51.30
This is the navel of the world,
00:42:51.33\00:42:52.71
this is the link
of the world together.
00:42:52.74\00:42:55.33
Europe, Asia,
Africa, we're that keystone,
00:42:55.36\00:42:59.04
we have to survive.
00:42:59.07\00:43:01.20
The world collapses otherwise.
00:43:01.23\00:43:03.37
Certainly by the way of faith.
00:43:03.40\00:43:05.13
So I think, yes, it is
important that they should come,
00:43:05.16\00:43:08.02
they should see,
they should understand,
00:43:08.05\00:43:10.30
we are a mosaic of people today,
00:43:10.33\00:43:12.63
whether be by color or creed,
religion, vegetation even.
00:43:12.66\00:43:17.41
This is the link.
00:43:17.44\00:43:19.99
And by showing people,
where they see much more
00:43:20.02\00:43:23.95
than they can see anywhere
in the world, it's all here.
00:43:23.98\00:43:28.81
There's something for everyone
in this tiny piece of land.
00:43:28.84\00:43:33.23
I'm not surprised God chose it.
00:43:33.26\00:43:34.92
No. I'm really not.
00:43:34.95\00:43:37.72
But here they
can fully understand
00:43:37.75\00:43:40.25
what they are seeing,
what are they reading.
00:43:40.28\00:43:42.50
It's not just words on a
page, it suddenly becomes alive,
00:43:42.53\00:43:47.89
the Bible lives through that.
00:43:47.92\00:43:50.35
And I think by the guides
and the work that they do,
00:43:50.38\00:43:54.36
they're expressing themselves,
00:43:54.39\00:43:56.92
but they're
expressing God's work too. Yeah.
00:43:56.95\00:43:59.76
And that is the
importance of being here.
00:43:59.79\00:44:02.27
To see, to smell, to touch,
to taste, to feel everything
00:44:02.30\00:44:06.42
and make that Bible come
alive in their own lives today.
00:44:06.45\00:44:09.92
And that cannot be done
anywhere else in the world.
00:44:09.95\00:44:13.44
You know, when you
talk about being the center,
00:44:13.47\00:44:15.22
I mentioned this earlier.
00:44:15.25\00:44:16.98
I think you probably could
explain it much better than I,
00:44:17.01\00:44:19.67
but it is geographically located
00:44:19.70\00:44:24.74
between Africa and
Europe and Asia, right.
00:44:24.77\00:44:30.00
So whether it's in
Europe, Asia and Africa,
00:44:30.03\00:44:32.67
Shem, Ham and Japheth. Yeah.
00:44:32.70\00:44:34.82
It's all starting here.
From here it spreads out.
00:44:34.85\00:44:37.72
Out of Jerusalem
goes the word of the Lord.
00:44:37.75\00:44:40.06
Okay. Out of
Jerusalem, out of Zion.
00:44:40.09\00:44:43.05
So what better place
than come back to Zion
00:44:43.08\00:44:45.47
to understand the call of
where the message came out from.
00:44:45.50\00:44:50.13
And if we look
at Jerusalem today,
00:44:50.16\00:44:52.22
we can go back to the
days even to the Canaanites,
00:44:52.25\00:44:56.04
if we look at Jerusalem
like a man lying on his back
00:44:56.07\00:44:58.57
from the pool of
Siloam down by his feet
00:44:58.60\00:45:02.46
which is incidentally is
where Jesus cures the blind man.
00:45:02.49\00:45:06.40
Interesting enough
that this is how it rises up
00:45:06.43\00:45:08.76
through the city of David that
made this the Messianic city,
00:45:08.79\00:45:12.62
the city for all
peoples to come and to hear
00:45:12.65\00:45:15.38
about the coming of the Messiah.
00:45:15.41\00:45:17.27
But in order to attack it,
00:45:17.30\00:45:18.87
and he attacked
as a military man
00:45:18.90\00:45:21.53
which forbade him
to build the temple.
00:45:21.56\00:45:23.68
But when he came
and took Jerusalem,
00:45:23.71\00:45:25.78
he said go up the shaft
killing the lame and the blind.
00:45:25.81\00:45:29.81
I find that very interesting
00:45:29.84\00:45:31.98
because out of that
messianic line came Jesus
00:45:32.01\00:45:35.51
and who does he
cure in Jerusalem?
00:45:35.54\00:45:37.40
Only two miracles, the
lame and the blind. Wow.
00:45:37.43\00:45:42.59
But to understand that,
to understand the connection,
00:45:42.62\00:45:44.91
the inter-relationship between
the Old and the New Testament
00:45:44.94\00:45:48.83
coming off from David to
Solomon building the temple
00:45:48.86\00:45:51.68
to the Antonia Fortress
and finally at the head,
00:45:51.71\00:45:54.88
the Garden Tomb,
the sight of Calvary.
00:45:54.91\00:45:58.66
An empty tomb set in the garden.
00:45:58.69\00:46:01.35
You feel, you experience.
00:46:01.38\00:46:03.68
You're quite right,
it's not another trip,
00:46:03.71\00:46:06.59
it's not going on a
cruise and relaxing,
00:46:06.62\00:46:09.18
or seeing grass skirts or seeing
some unusual animal. Right.
00:46:09.21\00:46:15.49
But you will go home,
00:46:15.52\00:46:18.07
your life
certainly will be changed.
00:46:18.10\00:46:19.76
I've been to America,
00:46:19.79\00:46:21.16
I have traveled much of America,
00:46:21.19\00:46:22.59
I've been to many
different churches
00:46:22.62\00:46:25.00
and I've seen ministries
of ministers turned around.
00:46:25.03\00:46:29.20
It's no long that old
gospel explanation again.
00:46:29.23\00:46:33.93
It wasn't out there,
00:46:33.96\00:46:35.86
somewhere in that
mystical land in Gethsemane,
00:46:35.89\00:46:38.82
but when I was in Gethsemane,
when I stood by Calvary,
00:46:38.86\00:46:43.70
when I sailed the Sea of Galilee
when I walk through Caesarea,
00:46:43.73\00:46:49.31
and saw that trial of Paul,
00:46:49.34\00:46:51.90
could you have stood up
like Paul? You experience.
00:46:51.93\00:46:56.51
And there's nothing that
can compensate that experience,
00:46:56.54\00:47:00.24
other and being here
seeing, understanding,
00:47:00.27\00:47:04.27
tasting, smelling.
00:47:04.30\00:47:07.18
And this county will be
a country of the meeting
00:47:07.21\00:47:09.43
of the east and the west.
00:47:09.46\00:47:12.06
"They will be my
people, I will be their God
00:47:12.09\00:47:14.33
in faithfulness
and righteousness"
00:47:14.36\00:47:15.80
in Zechariah Chapter 8.
Here it all comes together.
00:47:15.83\00:47:21.10
So then, answer
this question for me,
00:47:21.13\00:47:23.49
Malcolm, if you will.
00:47:23.52\00:47:25.28
If someone wanted to say
to you, finish this sentence.
00:47:25.31\00:47:28.37
"As a tour guide who has a body
of knowledge and the country,
00:47:28.40\00:47:34.32
the land being
the fifth gospel,"
00:47:34.35\00:47:35.99
and I didn't
understand that till I got here
00:47:36.02\00:47:37.78
and that has been
drilled into our heads,
00:47:37.81\00:47:39.54
but also explain to us in a
way that you have to accept it.
00:47:39.57\00:47:43.82
You say, "my job as a tour
guide and as a preacher is to do
00:47:43.85\00:47:51.82
what to those people who
you have listening to you
00:47:51.85\00:47:55.03
for five, seven, eight, ten days
00:47:55.06\00:47:57.05
when I'm done I want them
to be aware and knowing what?"
00:47:57.08\00:48:01.37
I think when I'm
done, they have just begun.
00:48:01.40\00:48:04.82
I think when I'm done
and that word becomes alive
00:48:04.85\00:48:07.81
and they have seen the
place, they have touched it,
00:48:07.84\00:48:10.84
they have seen those flowers
and they have tasted that food.
00:48:10.87\00:48:13.88
It suddenly has a new
experience within their head.
00:48:13.91\00:48:16.90
When they end up in
Calvary and take communion,
00:48:16.93\00:48:21.73
they have finished
that physical journey,
00:48:21.76\00:48:24.61
they have just begun
their spiritual journey.
00:48:24.64\00:48:27.63
They have suddenly understood,
00:48:27.66\00:48:29.62
"Why do I
believe, why do I accept?
00:48:29.65\00:48:34.14
I have been in the
footsteps of those sages,
00:48:34.17\00:48:36.92
I've walked in the
footsteps of Jesus,
00:48:36.95\00:48:39.09
I've seen the very
stones that He saw."
00:48:39.12\00:48:42.63
And many people
say to me, and yes,
00:48:42.66\00:48:44.75
but when I get to Jerusalem
00:48:44.78\00:48:46.15
I'm going to see this
big large modern buildings.
00:48:46.18\00:48:49.47
You think Jesus saw
a bunch of antiquities?
00:48:49.50\00:48:52.61
No. He saw big numbers.
00:48:52.64\00:48:54.97
But He saw the
most glorious temple
00:48:55.00\00:48:57.16
that had ever been built
by man anywhere in the world.
00:48:57.19\00:49:00.29
He who did not see the
temple of Herod the great
00:49:00.32\00:49:03.15
had never seen beauty.
00:49:03.18\00:49:05.29
But if you want to see beauty,
00:49:05.32\00:49:06.71
you want to
understand that beauty,
00:49:06.74\00:49:08.37
you want to feel and
experience that beauty,
00:49:08.40\00:49:11.42
then come and do
that, do exactly that.
00:49:11.45\00:49:15.70
So I think by the
end of my journey,
00:49:15.73\00:49:17.45
I have given them
sufficient knowledge,
00:49:17.48\00:49:19.94
sufficient understanding
that when they go home,
00:49:19.97\00:49:23.55
they will never read
their Bibles the same.
00:49:23.58\00:49:25.68
They will read as an
experience, "Oh, I remember.
00:49:25.71\00:49:30.38
Ah, I got that train of thought.
00:49:30.41\00:49:33.56
I see it in a
totally different light."
00:49:33.59\00:49:38.05
And on the first
trip, what can I say?
00:49:38.08\00:49:40.14
Very often, it's overwhelming.
We've heard that this evening.
00:49:40.17\00:49:44.62
The second trip, it
wasn't all brand new,
00:49:44.65\00:49:47.68
I began to understand, but that
really comes in the third trip.
00:49:47.71\00:49:53.97
Now I really understand
00:49:54.00\00:49:56.41
and I think if I ask
Pastor Jim here after 30 times--
00:49:56.44\00:50:00.98
Twenty two.
When the first time--
00:50:01.01\00:50:02.38
Twenty two times,
but I'm praying for 23.
00:50:02.41\00:50:06.48
He is praying for 23. Yeah.
00:50:06.51\00:50:09.89
It just rejuvenates me
spiritually and just renews
00:50:09.92\00:50:15.81
and I learn so much
more every time I come.
00:50:15.84\00:50:19.12
And even going to the
same sites even when I have--
00:50:19.15\00:50:22.36
and we always
throw in different sites,
00:50:22.39\00:50:23.90
but even when I
go to the same sites,
00:50:23.93\00:50:27.15
I find out new information
that I never knew before.
00:50:27.18\00:50:31.11
We learn new information. Yeah.
00:50:31.14\00:50:33.12
A guide, as a pastor
grows in his ministry.
00:50:33.15\00:50:36.71
Yeah, you're not telling me
00:50:36.74\00:50:38.11
the same thing
you did 30 years ago.
00:50:38.14\00:50:39.60
No, certainly not. No.
00:50:39.63\00:50:41.60
Look at what we
have already found. Yeah.
00:50:41.63\00:50:43.00
People that have
been here 20, 30 times
00:50:43.03\00:50:46.60
and there's always
something new to show them.
00:50:46.63\00:50:48.64
Yeah, yeah. And it's
still the same place.
00:50:48.67\00:50:51.54
You know, Beit
She'an we were out there
00:50:51.57\00:50:53.31
and I remember in the
70s my first trip here,
00:50:53.34\00:50:58.06
well, it was before I met you.
00:50:58.09\00:51:00.37
All they had was
just one little gate there
00:51:00.40\00:51:02.89
and then I come back
00:51:02.92\00:51:04.29
and all of this
excavation has been done.
00:51:04.32\00:51:06.81
It's all here. It's amazing.
00:51:06.84\00:51:08.95
And this is not the only
place, there are several places.
00:51:08.98\00:51:12.21
Chorazin the work has
been done there. Absolutely.
00:51:12.24\00:51:15.47
And all the other places
that you are able to really see
00:51:15.50\00:51:19.14
and these are places
that were important to Jesus.
00:51:19.17\00:51:22.32
We look at those
three spots up there
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particularly where He
taught so much Capernaum,
00:51:25.57\00:51:29.52
Chorazin and
what's the third one?
00:51:29.55\00:51:33.65
Capernaum, Chorazin, Bethsaida.
00:51:33.68\00:51:35.37
Yeah, Bethsaida, okay.
00:51:35.40\00:51:37.13
But we find that
these are the towns
00:51:37.16\00:51:40.46
where Jesus taught
more than any other place.
00:51:40.49\00:51:43.43
And He says "Woe unto you,"
00:51:43.46\00:51:45.82
because this will be more
tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrah
00:51:45.85\00:51:49.68
and in the end,
it will be for you
00:51:49.71\00:51:51.33
because you've had such an
opportunity to hear the gospel.
00:51:51.36\00:51:56.45
Yeah, you can hear the
gospel in the same place
00:51:56.48\00:51:59.78
where that same
teaching took place.
00:51:59.81\00:52:01.68
Right, exactly.
00:52:01.71\00:52:04.15
But do you begin to understand
what he was saying to them
00:52:04.18\00:52:07.81
and the proximity
of where He was going
00:52:07.84\00:52:11.61
and giving this message.
00:52:11.64\00:52:14.33
Wow, let's say,
it is exciting, yeah.
00:52:14.36\00:52:17.31
Malcolm, I just want to
ask you a question before we go
00:52:17.34\00:52:19.49
because you've been
through a tough physical bout,
00:52:19.52\00:52:22.09
healthwise this year and
yet there's still this joy,
00:52:22.12\00:52:24.75
there's excitement in you.
00:52:24.78\00:52:26.15
That has not dimmed, we
can feel it coming from you.
00:52:26.18\00:52:28.70
Let me ask you one of
those big high console questions
00:52:28.73\00:52:30.91
we ask every now and again.
00:52:30.94\00:52:32.31
What, When a tour's over,
00:52:32.34\00:52:34.12
what's the best thing
a person can say to you,
00:52:34.15\00:52:36.87
make you go home at
night and sleep well?
00:52:36.90\00:52:38.69
To know you've done your job?
00:52:38.72\00:52:40.09
I remember a
number of years ago,
00:52:40.12\00:52:42.39
I had a group with Pastor Jim.
00:52:42.42\00:52:45.39
And there was two gentlemen
00:52:45.42\00:52:46.79
that were traveling
together around the world.
00:52:46.82\00:52:49.84
And they came on the
trip here to the Holy Land
00:52:49.87\00:52:53.33
and one of them at the
end of the trip came up to me
00:52:53.36\00:52:56.46
and he asked me a question.
00:52:56.49\00:52:58.75
He said, Malcolm, I
traveled many, many places,
00:52:58.78\00:53:03.02
I never even had
in my wildest dreams
00:53:03.05\00:53:05.68
to come to the Promised Land,
00:53:05.71\00:53:07.08
but my friend wanted to
come and I came with him.
00:53:07.11\00:53:11.11
And my last question
to you before I go home.
00:53:11.14\00:53:14.51
Where do I start learning,
what do I start reading?
00:53:14.54\00:53:20.38
That Bible is
the best guide book
00:53:20.41\00:53:23.21
and when you have
been here and seen it,
00:53:23.24\00:53:25.78
they go home and they say,
00:53:25.81\00:53:28.24
"I need to know more, it
is now a part of my life."
00:53:28.27\00:53:34.92
Creates that hunger.
00:53:34.95\00:53:36.32
It creates that hunger,
that thirst which then grows.
00:53:36.35\00:53:40.12
All we can do is sow the seed.
00:53:40.15\00:53:43.65
What you do with
the seed is up to you.
00:53:43.68\00:53:45.96
That's right. Absolutely. Wow.
00:53:45.99\00:53:49.90
Well, thanks so
much for coming in
00:53:49.93\00:53:52.63
and sharing with us, Malcolm.
00:53:52.66\00:53:56.19
You're one of my great friends.
00:53:56.22\00:53:57.59
You've got a lot of friends
00:53:57.62\00:53:59.26
and I know that Greg
Riley is your closest friend
00:53:59.29\00:54:02.94
and Greg is a wonderful man,
00:54:02.97\00:54:06.57
he's been a very faithful friend
to you and all of us. Yes.
00:54:06.60\00:54:11.92
And beyond that, you
have hundreds of friends,
00:54:11.95\00:54:15.44
probably may be
even beyond that.
00:54:15.47\00:54:17.86
And I'm just glad to be
numbered as one of those,
00:54:17.89\00:54:20.44
I want you to know that.
00:54:20.47\00:54:21.84
Well, I look forward to
being very, very close friends.
00:54:21.87\00:54:24.29
God bless you. We're down
to the last 30 seconds now.
00:54:24.32\00:54:27.64
Yeah, stay with us till the end,
00:54:27.67\00:54:29.04
you don't need
to go. Sit with us.
00:54:29.07\00:54:30.44
Well, listen, why
don't you take us out?
00:54:30.47\00:54:32.51
Well, it's been a wonderful
00:54:32.54\00:54:34.26
exciting time for
us just being here,
00:54:34.29\00:54:36.07
just experiencing what
God has for us in this land
00:54:36.10\00:54:39.88
and being in the
places that we've read about
00:54:39.91\00:54:42.06
and heard about as
Malcolm had said so eloquently.
00:54:42.09\00:54:44.78
It's been a great blessing.
00:54:44.81\00:54:46.22
Our job here at Night
Light is to bring you the truth
00:54:46.25\00:54:48.57
about what's
happening in the world today
00:54:48.60\00:54:50.42
and, Jim, this has been
an exciting time, has it not?
00:54:50.45\00:54:53.05
It really has. Yeah.
00:54:53.08\00:54:54.45
And we can tell
from the response
00:54:54.48\00:54:56.52
that you
appreciate it. God bless you.
00:54:56.55\00:55:00.56