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00:09 Well, we've been learning some very interesting things
00:12 about the work here in Puerto Rico. 00:14 You see, growth like we have seen 00:18 just doesn't happen automatically. 00:21 No, it's no accident. There's a plan here. 00:23 There's a plan that involves the medical work-- 00:26 Mm-hmm. Educational work, evangelism-- 00:29 Mm. The media-- Yeah. 00:31 And the media is really big here. 00:35 3ABN has been here for a long time--Quite a while. 00:38 And so we've been part of that media inroads 00:42 that have been made and are gonna be even hopefully more. 00:46 Mm-hmm. So because we're converting now to digital, 00:51 which means we'll have four channels now. 00:53 We're in the eastern part of the island-- 00:54 No, we're in the western part of the island. 00:57 I'm talking about where our 3ABN is. 00:58 Oh, 3ABN is, okay, yeah. I know-- 01:00 That's eastern. We're in the western part, right. 01:02 But the 3ABN tower is-- Is in the east. 01:05 In the eastern. That's correct. 01:06 Right, right, San Juan area 01:08 and it does hit a very populous area. Yeah. 01:14 Folks, we're gonna see some exciting things 01:16 happening in the future, because we'll have four channels 01:19 plus two radio channels. 01:22 Four television channels, 3ABN, 3ABN Latino, 01:27 Dare to Dream and Proclaim. Hmm. 01:29 And then two of the radio channels, 3ABN Latino and 3ABN. 01:35 So there's just no way that that isn't gonna 01:39 have an impact in that particular area. 01:40 Oh, I agree. I agree. 01:42 And so we're excited about that media outreach. 01:45 Yeah, we are. Jorge, I want to just go to you 01:48 because you've spent considerable time here. 01:50 We talked about your impressions, 01:52 but you were here a month last year. 01:54 Tell us some of the things that 3ABN has done 01:56 even working with this particular church 01:58 and in media as far as programming 01:59 and some of the things that you're looking at 02:01 with 3ABN Latino coming out of Puerto Rico. 02:05 Si, uh, yes. Si. I'm confused. Yeah, it's true. 02:12 We have done quite a bit of productions here 02:14 and like--as I said in the first hour, 02:17 we have so many talents and one of the things 02:20 that we were into, to work here with the media centers 02:22 in series especially on sciences and religion aspects. 02:28 We just finished last September. 02:30 We were here one month. 02:32 And we finished a series that is called 02:34 "Ciencia Tres Sesenta," science 360. 02:37 It is a series of interview with different scientists 02:42 and professors hosted by a person 02:46 who is very well known here, Dr. Efrain Velazquez, 02:50 and they touch all these topics about creation 02:53 and sciences and religion and actually this program 02:57 has been a blessing. 02:59 We have received so much response 03:02 and we are very, very pleased for that. 03:04 And we continue-- we want to continue 03:07 to produce this kind of programs 03:09 because this is-- like we were mentioning 03:11 and at some point last-- in the first hour, 03:13 there's a university here and there's different careers 03:18 and the reputation of the Seventh-day Adventist Church 03:21 is also very strong on the education part. 03:24 So we want to take advantage of that, 03:28 if you will, to show new programs 03:30 that I will talk about religions and science 03:33 and also other topics and we have that kind of academy here. 03:37 We are starting a new program, a children's program. 03:41 So we're gonna also get this type of programming 03:46 in the air with many, many opportunities and talents 03:51 that we have here in this church, 03:54 in this community-- Mm-hmm. 03:55 As far as, like, in this case children programs. 03:59 I know my wife is producing a program 04:03 and young people from this area are coming to 3ABN currently-- 04:06 That is correct. Yeah. 04:09 And, yes, we have two representatives, 04:13 two young, young ladies that they went to 3ABN 04:17 and they did a program over there 04:18 that is called Cocina Con Color--Uh-huh. 04:23 Cooking with color. 04:25 And they are very young, but very enthusiastic 04:28 and they have projected this Puerto Rican passion 04:32 and they're cooking and what their goal 04:34 is to show how kids, young kids-- 04:36 Mm-hmm. Teenagers can also be useful in the kitchen. 04:41 Mm. And they can create different dishes 04:43 and things and so Patricia and Priscilla Gonzalez are the-- 04:47 Oh, yes. Ones who are doing this program. 04:50 Praise the Lord. So I know that 3ABN Latino 04:52 is very happy because they're getting some benefit 04:54 out of Puerto Rico, major benefit and major programming. 04:57 Yes. That is correct. Yes. 05:00 Well, we've talked about programming, Jim, 05:02 and we've talked about media outreach 05:04 and, of course, we're TV guys-- 05:08 Yeah. But radio is still a very, 05:12 very powerful, powerful missionary tool. 05:15 Very, very powerful. And-- 05:17 And a very important part of 3ABN as well. 05:20 Very much so, very much so. Yes. 05:21 We're gonna ask, I want to get his name, Jaime Blanco to come. 05:26 He is the General Manager of Radio Paraiso-- 05:30 Mm-hmm. Radio Paraiso and he's a great host. 05:32 He had us out for lunch today. Great. Yes. 05:37 See, I know--have affinity because this is a New York guy. 05:42 All right. He's in Puerto Rico now, 05:44 but he goes back to the Bronx. Yes. 05:46 He's a New York guy. 05:47 So you and Pastor Lomacang, this is a New York guy-- 05:49 Uh-huh. So we can talk with him. 05:51 Okay. Well, I know one thing, 05:53 that he has a broad range of ministry. 05:57 Mm-hmm. He has been involved in the food business. 06:01 That's right. And also in media and in pastoral ministry. 06:09 And today, tell us a little bit about-- 06:11 we ate at a health food restaurant 06:14 that is located at the conference office, 06:17 tell us a little bit about that. Yes, we have a supermarket. 06:20 All right. West conference. 06:23 We also have in that supermarket a cafeteria and a ABC store. 06:27 All right. So it's all together and our customers 06:29 will come in and they can eat, or they can read-- 06:32 Uh-huh. Or they can buy their supplies-- 06:33 Right. That they've enjoyed at the cafeteria 06:36 and also take home. 06:37 And this has been at least successful 06:41 enough to stay in business for a number of years. 06:43 Yes, this had started since 1998. Is that right? 06:47 We have been supplying all the supermarkets 06:49 in Puerto Rico besides selling our food 06:53 to the neighbors near the conference--Uh-huh. 06:55 We also supply for the supermarkets in Puerto Rico, 06:58 vegetarian meats, vegetarian products-- 07:01 Okay. And also the health food stores-- 07:03 Right. Are being benefited by our distribution of foods 07:06 that can be healthy for our listeners 07:09 and also our members from church. 07:11 Wow. I didn't know that, that comes through you. 07:13 You are the supplier for other markets? 07:15 Yes. Our conference does that for all of Puerto Rico 07:19 and even the Virgin Islands. Wow. 07:21 Hmm, very good. Praise the Lord. 07:22 So it's been a blessing not only to have the opportunity 07:25 to reach people with the food, 07:28 but we also have the opportunity in our conference, 07:30 as you said before, to reach the people 07:32 through our radio station. Mm-hmm. 07:33 Well, we had lunch there today and we were your guests 07:36 and we appreciated that very much. 07:38 But it was not only healthy, it was delicious. 07:42 Amen. And I think we enjoyed it very much. 07:46 Indeed, we did. I enjoyed mine, I did. 07:47 Yeah, I enjoyed mine, yes. 07:49 I could say that I did see you enjoy your food today. Yes. 07:53 Yeah. I really did-- 07:55 Now just to get some background on you, 07:58 you were born in Puerto Rico or born in New York? 08:00 I know you spent considerable time in the States-- 08:02 Yes. But born here or born in the States? 08:03 I was born in New York. Uh-huh. I was born in Bronx. 08:06 Mm-hmm. In Bronx, New York and after being there 08:09 for 18 years is that when I come to Puerto Rico in 1984 08:12 and I start living here in Puerto Rico 08:15 and ever since, I've been here. Mm-hmm. For the past 25 years. 08:18 Uh-huh. All right. Hmm. 08:20 Now your background is in ministry? Yes, it is. 08:22 Uh-huh. I have a major in theology 08:24 and I studied at the university-- 08:26 Seventh-day Adventist University here in Mayaguez-- 08:28 Uh-huh. That's where I finished my theology major. 08:31 Okay. And after that I had the calling to stay 08:34 in this Conference and we've been working ever since. 08:36 Mm-hmm. Hmm. 08:38 So the brethren asked you to go into radio. 08:41 Did you immediately see the benefit of moving 08:44 from pastoral ministry into really a wider sphere in radio? 08:47 Well, it was a great challenge 08:49 'cause I had never been in radio before. 08:50 Uh-huh. I did participate. 08:53 I did have the opportunity to share with the manager 08:57 before me and it was a great challenge 09:00 and I thought that if God had called me, 09:02 he would also prepare me to do so. 09:04 Yes. Mm-hmm. And it's been a great blessing. Mm-hmm. 09:06 In reality, it's been a great blessing to see 09:09 and hear people give testimony of what the radio station can do 09:13 for their lives when they're in a desperate situation. 09:15 You know, a lot of radio stations 09:17 work on taped programs. 09:19 In fact, some of them, there's no one really alive 09:22 there, except maybe an engineer 09:25 and even during the nighttime, it may be all automated. 09:29 But when I went to your radio station, I saw studios. 09:33 I saw people running in and out. 09:35 I even saw the chief of police 09:37 coming to do an interview program. 09:40 We did an interview program. 09:43 How many live programs do you do a day? 09:46 Well, we could say that at least 75% of our programs are live. 09:51 Is that right? Yes, it is. 09:52 And the rest of the programs have been taped 09:57 because of the people that are running the program 10:03 have other things to do so--Yes. 10:06 Their time is not as wide or broad-- Right. 10:08 As ours, so--they-- Right--right. 10:09 They do the taping before that. Uh-huh. 10:11 But we also have an English version 10:14 of Paradise Radio. Okay. 10:16 That's how we call it in English. Uh-huh. 10:17 Radio Paraiso and we also have some of 3ABN programs 10:22 in that radio station-- All right. 10:23 Now-- And in the internet. 10:25 Is that a different letters 10:27 and different numbers on the dial? 10:30 This is 90...what? 92.9. 10:33 Okay. The FM in Puerto Rico-- 10:35 And is it all on 92.9 or is there a different channel? 10:37 That would be in the internet. Okay. 10:39 The radio station we have in English version 10:41 which we also try to reach other people, besides--All right. 10:45 Our Spanish speaking here in Puerto Rico-- Yes. 10:48 We have had the English version also to reach the people 10:52 that stay here in Puerto Rico 10:53 that only speak English. Right. 10:55 And it's been a blessing 'cause we have calls 10:56 from different countries-- Sure. 10:58 Such as Iraq, Russia, Italy. 11:00 So it's on the internet. 11:02 It's on the internet. That's right. All right. 11:03 Yeah, we're looking at some pictures now 11:04 and I was just getting ready to call for this Radio Paraiso. 11:07 It's on the same campus as the conference office 11:10 and the health food store-- 11:12 Right. That's right. 11:14 All sort of tucked there together 11:15 and really doing a very, very fine job. 11:17 You gave us some stories that we kind of want you to-- 11:21 here's the conference office we're looking at now. 11:24 Beautiful campus, very tropical feel 11:27 and that's where you have to go to work every day, 11:30 bless your heart. Yeah, that's right. 11:31 That's not a bad place to go to work every day, 11:33 but you gave us some stories 11:35 that I kind of want you just recite now of-- 11:39 there were two very powerful stories of the ministry 11:42 that your station, Radio Paraiso is doing 11:46 and the lives that it is saving and touching. 11:48 Recount those stories for us now, Jaime, if you will. 11:50 Yes, the first one that I had told you this morning is 11:53 one of a man that we received a letter today-- 11:55 yesterday, I'm sorry. 11:57 He was a radio listener that was going through a rough situation 12:01 with his life and at one moment he decided to commit suicide. 12:05 And when he decided to do so, 12:07 he started breaking all the things 12:10 he had in his house, as he wrote in his letter 12:12 and he was throwing things left to right at his house 12:15 and the last thing he left to throw was his radio. 12:19 So--but when he threw his radio, 12:21 it was on Paradise Radio, Radio Paraiso. 12:25 And the song that was playing is a song about the life of Noah 12:29 when he was in the ark and he sent a dove 12:32 to go and see if it could-- 12:33 it was positive to already be still and come out of the ark. 12:38 And that song is relating the dove to the Holy Spirit. 12:41 How the Holy Spirit will go out and come back and reach you 12:43 and let you know that there's hope. 12:46 So he was listening to that song 12:48 as he was thinking about committing suicide. 12:50 And at that moment, our DJ or the radio controller said, 12:54 "Listen, if you need prayer, you can call me right now." 12:57 And he gave out the phone number and this person decided to call 13:00 and God liberated him from committing suicide 13:03 at that moment-- Wow. 13:04 And he's very thankful to God for that. 13:05 Praise the Lord. Yeah. 13:07 And we've had other situations like that before. 13:09 Now before you go to the other one just-- 13:10 I just want to stop there. 13:12 Jim, that's no accident. No, absolutely not. 13:13 You know, at the moment that you're getting ready-- Yeah. 13:15 To sort of just end it all, you throw your radio 13:17 and there's a song and an appeal-- Right. 13:20 At the time that you really need it 13:22 and God provides it. That's a blessing. 13:23 That's the miracle about that situation there. 13:24 Yes. That's right-- 13:26 Yeah, even though he did not have 13:29 Paradise Radio on his dial, on his radio station, 13:31 it ended up and-- It was there at that moment-- 13:33 Yeah. Praise the Lord for that. 13:37 I tell you, when he gets to the kingdom, 13:40 he's gonna need to talk to his angel. 13:42 He sure does. 13:43 And that angel was flipping that dial pretty quick. 13:46 Yes, he was, yes, he was. And-- 13:47 Now there was a second one 13:49 equally as dramatic that you said-- 13:50 Yeah. Tell us that story. 13:52 Well, it's about a person that is a guard. 13:55 He works as a guard for a company, 13:57 a factory and he also has in his mind to commit suicide 14:03 and at that moment to avoid people from listening the shot 14:06 that he was gonna give himself with his gun, 14:09 he decided to put up real loud the radio that he had. 14:13 But the radio station when he put it 14:15 at real loud was on Paradise Radio. Hmm. 14:17 And at that moment, our technician that was on the radio 14:21 at that moment was appealing to people if they had any problems, 14:24 if they had any situations that they needed prayer 14:27 and he also said, 14:28 "If you're trying to commit suicide at this moment, 14:30 I would like to tell you that 14:32 there's somebody that loves you." Mm. 14:34 And at that moment, when he heard those words, 14:36 he was really impressed 14:38 and he put down the volume of his radio 14:41 and the DJ that was talking at that moment 14:44 also gave the phone number for prayer 14:46 and he called and he let our DJ know, 14:48 John Estevez, which was the person at that moment, 14:52 that he had just saved his life. Hmm. 14:54 But it wasn't him, it was God-- It was God. 14:56 It was the Holy Spirit-- Yeah. 14:57 Who had worked of again putting that dial of his radio 15:01 on Paradise Radio. 15:03 Wow. Exactly. Wow. Powerful. 15:05 Yeah. Powerful. 15:06 And I guess you get those kinds of things 15:09 certainly maybe on a daily, weekly basis. 15:11 You're getting affirmations that 15:13 you're meeting needs here on the island. Oh, yes. 15:15 We had one program that was called "Try Jesus Christ." 15:18 It was at the beginning of 2010 in January. 15:21 And we had people calling 15:23 and asking for prayer for 40 days. 15:26 We did a 40-day plan of prayer, intensive prayer, 15:29 morning, afternoon, and evening. 15:31 And people were calling. 15:32 Some of those testimonies were parents 15:34 that had situation with their sons 15:37 and daughters and it was wonderful 15:39 to have those people call back and let us know 15:42 that God had done something marvelous 15:44 with their families. Hmm. 15:45 And there was no problem anymore with that situation 15:48 where their parents had a faulty situation 15:50 with their son or their daughter. 15:52 God had reconciled that family. 15:54 And it was great to have those kind of calls 15:56 and people that were calling that God had even healed them 16:00 from cancer was one case that we heard. 16:02 Mm. Mm. 16:04 Praise God. Wow. 16:05 Now I know you live a little ways away. 16:08 You're an hour or plus away. 16:10 I guess, it makes that drive that much easier 16:13 and sweeter to know that when you come to work, 16:16 you're doing a ministry that is saving and touching lives. 16:18 Oh, yes. I enjoy it very much. 16:20 It's been a great experience. 16:22 I thank God and the conference 16:24 for giving me the opportunity to work in the radio station 16:26 and also our TV station, which is Paradise Radio 16:30 and Paradise TV-- Mm-hmm. 16:32 And we're working on, on having more channels 16:35 so that we can keep giving the opportunity to the people 16:37 to listen to the word of God and see the word of God. 16:40 Praise God. Yeah. 16:41 Praise God. It's been a great experience. 16:43 To hear just the testimony of people letting us know that 16:47 God has touched those lives, it's very impressive for us. 16:51 You know, one of the things that we like 16:52 and I know Jim likes this too, 'cause we talk about this 16:54 a lot at 3ABN is when we get hard evidence 16:58 that someone was led to the Lord 17:00 or to the Adventist Church through our ministry. 17:03 We get them almost on a daily basis. Yeah. 17:05 But there are churches that baptize 17:07 30, 40, 50 people a year through 3ABN. 17:10 Do you get that or do you keep any kind of record 17:12 of how many people come through hearing your radio station 17:16 and come into the church of God? 17:18 Well, last year, we started doing that account 17:20 and we reached 10 souls last year. 17:23 Praise the Lord. Wow. 17:24 Through our radio station that were baptized-- Mm-hmm. 17:26 And this year we have at least eight people Mm-hmm. 17:29 That are starting the Bible 17:31 to get prepared for baptism. Mm-hmm. 17:33 And we also have one testimony which was very interesting 17:36 that he was asking through facebook 17:39 that if anybody could help him to go 17:41 and visit a Seventh-day Adventist Church 17:44 in the West Conference area, and I answered his call. 17:48 I wrote to him and he wrote back 17:51 and now he's doing a theology major 17:54 at the university-- Oh, wow. 17:55 Of the Seventh-day Adventist Church-- Wow. 17:57 And he was baptized last week. Praise the Lord. 18:00 And God is really working it and-- Yes. 18:01 Through our radio station-- Yes, he is. Yes. 18:03 In great ways. Wow. 18:04 Not only in the church, Jim, 18:05 but in the church and in the ministry-- 18:07 That's right. Getting ready to call-- 18:08 That's right. Others to Christ. Yeah. 18:10 Well, I tell you, it is an exciting thing 18:11 and those are the ones that you directly know. 18:15 You have no idea-- That's right. 18:16 Of those that have been indirectly 18:19 reached with the message and have found a church 18:22 on their own, never said a word about-- Mm-hmm. 18:25 The fact that they've been listening to the radio 18:26 or watching your television, but they simply found the church 18:31 and started becoming a part of it. 18:33 Yes, last week, on Saturday, 18:36 when the President was here with us, 18:39 general conference president-- Mm-hmm. 18:41 Ted Wilson, I had some-- a female sit right next to me 18:45 and her name is Leslie and she told me 18:46 "You know what? I accepted Jesus Christ 18:49 through your radio station." Praise God. 18:52 And that was great to hear 18:53 and it was an impressive way the way it happened. 18:55 She was driving on her way home at 2 o'clock in the morning. 18:58 She had just come out from a bar 19:01 and she was there listening to the radio 19:04 and all of a sudden she started switching the radio station 19:06 and it ended up in our dial, 92.9. 19:09 And they started hearing a preacher 19:11 which was Alejandra Bujon-- Is that right? 19:13 And it touched her heart and she started crying. 19:16 She said she couldn't stop crying. 19:18 And she kept on listening at that--every, every morning 19:21 at 2 o'clock in the morning, the sermons that we would 19:23 put through our radio station. Mm-hmm. 19:25 And today, she is a Seventh-day Adventist also. 19:27 Amen. Wow. 19:28 The Lord has touched her heart 19:29 and she's trying also to bring her family to know Jesus Christ. 19:32 Jim, there's that angel again turning the dial. 19:35 That's right. That's right. Yeah. 19:36 Well, you have your ways of the Lord working 19:39 with your TV station and-- Yeah. Oh, yes. 19:42 And I'm sure glad God has His angels working 19:43 also with our radio station-- Yes. 19:45 We've had a remarkable number of people who will get 3ABN 19:50 and they'll say they don't know how they were getting it. Yes. 19:53 Because they didn't have a satellite, 19:55 they were not on a cable. 19:58 We didn't maybe even have a local station 20:01 in that particular area, but they began to get it on their TV 20:04 and in several instances-- Yes. 20:06 They could only get 3ABN. 20:08 There was nothing else that would come on. Yeah. 20:10 We had a story and I thought this was great. 20:13 A lady told us, I think it was in Vegas 20:15 that she was getting 3ABN suddenly on her television set 20:21 and it stayed on. 20:23 She called the local church, 20:26 started attending the local church, 20:28 got baptized in a local church and the day she got baptized, 20:32 the signal went off. Yeah, that's right. 20:33 And has never come back again 20:36 for God kept it just long enough to get her in 20:39 and get her baptized-- Amen, amen. 20:40 And then the signal went off. Yeah, amen. 20:42 So it must be a blessing, 20:44 truly a blessing for you to work in radio 20:46 and in media and in doing something 20:48 that touches the hearts of so many people. Oh, yes. 20:49 It's also a blessing to be able to reach people 20:52 not only through our frequency in 92.9, 20:54 but also on the internet-- 20:55 Mm-hmm. Yes. 20:57 Our web page is www.wtpm.org, 21:01 and you can select our page right there 21:04 and you can listen live. Hmm-- 21:05 To our radio station not only in Spanish, 21:07 but also in English. Praise God, Praise God. 21:08 Let me ask you this, just a quick question 21:10 before I let you go. 21:11 How far does your station extend, 21:13 you know, in miles around? 21:15 Well, we reach more than half of Puerto Rico. 21:17 We reach from the West Coast 21:19 all the way down to the Northeast Coast 21:21 and the Southeast Coast also. Mm-hmm. 21:24 So we could say it's a pretty large radius-- Yes. 21:27 Close to 70 miles on a radius that we reach--Yeah. 21:30 Over three quarters--close to three quarters of Puerto Rico 21:34 and it's great to even be driving all the way down 21:36 to one of the towns called Dorado, 21:38 which is pretty far from here. 21:40 It's like an hour and a half drive or more 21:42 and we could still listen-- 21:43 Oh, praise the Lord, yeah. To 92.9-- 21:45 Yeah. Radio Paraiso. Yeah. 21:46 We were listening to it, 21:47 Camille and I were on the way out here tonight 21:49 and we had a very good signal and we were enjoying the program 21:54 and it was music, 21:55 almost all music all the time we were listening. Yes. 21:58 And it was beautiful music. Amen. 22:00 Very, very good. 22:01 Yeah, it's remarkable because you have so-- 22:03 you have a good number of mountains here 22:06 and that you're getting over those mountains 22:07 and still covering so much of the island. 22:09 How old is the station? 22:10 I don't know if we touched on that. 22:12 When did you first begin broadcasting? 22:13 Well, we started 40 years ago. Uh-huh. 22:15 40 years ago we started in a garage of a house 22:17 of an engineer called Ricardo Vega. 22:22 He started the radio station at his house. 22:24 And after a few years of starting the radio station 22:27 at his house, he decided to give it to 22:30 or sell it to the West Conference. Uh-huh. 22:33 And the West Conference started at one of the mountains 22:35 where we have our tower. 22:37 The guys used to call down here with walkie-talkies 22:40 and let them know what was going to be next 22:41 and that's how it started. 22:43 And so then we came down to the Conference 22:46 and we had a little room that was separated for us 22:48 and now we have, by the blessing of God 22:50 and by the blessing through the people 22:53 that listen to the listeners 'cause they're the ones 22:55 that support our radio station, now we have a whole building. 22:58 Yeah. And we can share it with others. Yeah. 23:01 And--Yeah, a new microwave up to a tower on-- 23:04 That's right. On the mountain. 23:06 On the mountain. Mm-hmm. 23:07 And so it's good. Yeah. 23:08 Great reception. 23:10 As we saw on the video, very beautiful facility-- Yeah. 23:11 Very well run, lovely place to be 23:13 and thank you so very, very much-- 23:15 Thank you very much. 23:16 For just giving us a little taste of what's happening 23:18 through radio here in West Conference. 23:21 God bless you. Thank you very much. 23:22 All righty. God bless you. 23:25 We want to fit, Jim, now to some of 23:27 the work being done in this local church. Yes. 23:29 Because as Jorge has intimated, 23:32 they're doing some great media things 23:34 in this local church-- Uh-huh. 23:36 And really there's a vision here, 23:39 that's being underrated by the vision 23:40 that we've seen in the total island of Puerto Rico. Yes. 23:43 From the union to the conference, to the radio, 23:45 to the hospital, to the school, 23:46 and now the local church as we call Pastor Parra 23:48 up to be with us because the local church 23:51 is doing some great things and on our credits 23:53 for our "Anchors of Truth," 23:55 we've begun to put thanks 23:57 to the Bella Vista Media Center, Pastor, 24:00 and we want to talk about that 24:01 and a little bit about his work here-- Yes. 24:04 At the church. All right. 24:14 Yes, we are very happy for what the Lord is providing us 24:18 to do here in this church with a very nice, 24:22 very good dedicated group of people. Mm-hmm. 24:36 I praise the Lord for this and there's a good group of people 24:42 under the leadership of the media center 24:46 director Brother Nemuel Artiles. 24:50 Tell us a little bit about you, 24:51 where you were born and where you were educated 24:54 and how you became an Adventist and so forth. 25:10 I am from Columbia-- 25:11 And the Lord called me to the ministry 25:14 when I was 17 years old. 25:15 Mm-hmm. All right. 25:23 See, I received a call to come to Puerto Rico 25:25 and I've been adopted and I've been loved. 25:28 So I'm gonna stay here for the grace of God. 25:30 All right, all right. Praise the Lord. 25:42 I've been working here at the Bella Vista 25:44 for 2 years with my wife Liliana and my two daughters. 25:50 All right. Wonderful. 25:52 You came--when you came, the media center was already 25:55 in existence and getting started. 26:00 Did you feel God's call to support that work? 26:03 Because it's unusual for a local church 26:06 to start up a whole media ministry, 26:08 particularly a television ministry on its own. 26:21 I am praising the Lord because this project 26:23 had started before I came and we are learning. 26:34 Then I feel the conviction from the Lord 26:36 to support this ministry for this time. 26:39 Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. 26:50 We are at the end of times and the Lord wants us 26:54 to use different methods to reach people. 27:05 And I also praise the Lord for the ministry of 3ABN 27:08 has been helping to reach the world with the gospel. 27:14 We're going to have 27:15 Nemuel come up in just a little bit to talk about 27:17 specifically the media center ministry, 27:19 but what other kinds of things is the church doing 27:22 to try to reach out to the community? 27:24 You're in a very unique area, 27:26 but what kinds of things is the church doing 27:27 to reach out to the community in addition to the media work? 27:44 We have the hospital. 27:45 They're right just next door to us. 27:47 So we are taking advantage of that 27:50 to do service to the community. 28:01 And also because we have the academy 28:04 right next door too, 28:05 we are using that as another tool to reach the community. 28:20 And the church is supporting two pathfinder clubs 28:26 that we are supporting that way 28:29 we can reach also that segment of the community. 28:40 And this year, we have several ministries 28:42 serving the community. 28:43 Praise the Lord. 28:52 We are trying to visit people with needs, special needs. 28:58 To help them also, 28:59 we are starting our prison ministry. 29:08 Then we also are taking-- 29:09 we're taking care of the homeless 29:11 using the pathfinders to help us with that. 29:15 Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. 29:18 Well, you've got a great ministry going, 29:20 a beautiful church, a wonderful congregation 29:24 and I know that God is blessing your efforts here-- 29:28 And it's a very exciting area 29:33 and I'm just very impressed with the growth 29:36 that we've seen here. Yeah. 29:38 I just want to take one more look at the video. 29:40 I'm gonna ask Joel and the guys to roll this. 29:43 You know, this is such an impressive place to be. 29:45 It's an impressive place to be on Sabbath. 29:47 This is, you know, the church building. 29:49 It's perched really here 29:51 on the side of the mountain and gorgeous views. 29:55 It's a beautiful building. 29:56 There's the front of the church 29:58 and then just to the right down the hill is the school 30:01 and then down the hill again is the hospital 30:03 and, you know, you've sort of pressured- 30:04 you kind of feel like you're a little close to heaven, Jim, 30:07 a little piece of heaven up here. 30:08 Yeah. Yeah, really nice. Really, really, well done. 30:10 It's very well done and a very nice place. Yeah. 30:14 Pastor, thank you so very much. 30:16 We're gonna actually talk to some of your members now 30:17 and dig a little more into this media ministry 30:20 being run out of this church. 30:22 Thank you so very much for your support 30:24 and I know that they are very, very thankful also. 30:26 And you have made us feel very welcome. 30:28 Thank you very much. God bless. 30:31 Oh, yes. You know, I was just thinking of the translation. 30:36 Translation is so important. 30:38 It has to be accurate 30:41 and I believe that we've got a very good translator. 30:44 I've had translators that were interpreters 30:47 instead of translators. Instead of translators, yes. 30:49 They would change things. 30:50 And John and I were talking about that, John Lomacang. 30:53 And he was telling me about a translator 30:56 who--he was translating and the man was telling about 31:00 a bear chasing him and the people began to laugh. 31:05 And he said, "Why are you laughing? 31:08 Why are the people laughing?" He said to his translator. 31:11 And the translator said, "Well, I don't know the word 31:14 for bear in Spanish, so I just said rabbit." 31:20 And if a man is running from a rabbit, 31:23 it's a great deal of difference than running from a bear, 31:25 you know. Running from a bear. 31:27 So--Right, so I thought 31:28 that was a great translator story. 31:31 So, Jorge, we want to thank you and give you flowers 31:33 while you can still smell them. Thank you for translating. 31:36 I thank you for your kind words 31:39 but I have to apologize to the viewers 31:41 because my accent always get in the way. 31:44 We'll do our best. God will do the best. 31:47 I don't know do you have an accent in Spanish? 31:49 'Cause you don't- you do fine in English. So... 31:51 My accent is mixed of-- 31:55 You've got an accent in both languages. 31:57 I do. Okay. 31:58 My wife Irma can tell pretty much 32:00 by listening to the different accents where people are from 32:06 I can do that with most West Indian Islands. 32:08 I can tell Jamaica from Trinidad and that kind of thing 32:10 but Irma can tell South America, Central America, 32:13 from Costa Rica, from Panama, 32:15 she says there are differences-- Yes. 32:16 I can't pick them up but Irma knows them. Yeah-- 32:18 There's very, very distinctive differences 32:20 especially South America, Central America, Mexico. 32:23 We have our little differences 32:25 and sometimes we have to be very careful 32:28 when we say certain words that mean something totally different 32:32 and not always a good thing to repeat it. 32:35 So we have to be careful. 32:37 Well, when I was in Ukraine preaching, 32:39 my good friend and one of my best friends, 32:41 Valery Tchunkovski, was my translator 32:44 and sometimes people would come up and say, 32:46 you know, you're preaching one sermon, 32:48 he's preaching another one. 32:49 So we know-- they understood both languages. 32:52 And so whatever Valery was doing, 32:55 it worked because the Lord gave us tremendous baptisms. 32:58 Praise the Lord. 33:00 And it was probably His preaching rather than mine. 33:03 We're gonna call Nemuel Artiles up now. 33:06 He is the director of the Bella Vista Media Center-- 33:08 All right. 33:10 That is headquarter to this church. 33:11 Want to get a little background on him 33:12 and find out how a church got a vision 33:16 to become a media center 33:17 that really is beginning to reach the world. 33:18 Nemuel, good to have you here. Thank you. 33:20 My pleasure to be here with you all. Yes. 33:22 Tell us a little bit about that. 33:24 How'd it get started? Whose idea was it? 33:27 Well, it was the idea of Anibal Gonzalez and myself. 33:31 Basically, as you can see, we are up in the top of a hill 33:36 and it's kind of a difficult to do some visit, 33:40 you know, to go door to door because of the fences 33:44 and the type of houses that are here 33:47 but still we have the commission--Yes. 33:49 And we need to preach the word. 33:51 So we started that several years ago with a little radio station. 33:55 We have one watt and we were sending cards to our neighbors, 33:59 please tune up this frequency 34:02 so you can listen to our service. 34:04 At that time, we were told that one watt was okay with the FCC. 34:10 Well, by the grace of the Lord, the transmitter broke down. 34:15 We didn't know it. It was down for 6 months or so. 34:20 One day, the pastor was here and the FCC officer came in 34:25 and he said we heard that there is a radio station 34:28 without license broadcasting out of this church. 34:32 And the pastor says, 34:33 "Well," and by the way, he was a new pastor. 34:35 He didn't know about it. 34:36 So they began to search and began to search 34:40 and finally they found the broken transmitter. 34:45 And then the officer says, 34:47 "Well, I mean, kind of a monitoring for 2 weeks. 34:50 I didn't see-- I didn't hear any signal. 34:53 So you told me you did not know anything. 34:56 You're okay, but please don't do it. 34:59 But then we kept-- what we're gonna do? 35:03 And then it came to our mind 35:05 an idea of how about making programs for TV? 35:11 So the idea began to flow in our mind 35:16 and one day, one member of this church 35:18 Suami Sepulveda, she visit here 35:22 and she came back and she say, 35:23 you know what? I think 3ABN can help us out. 35:26 So through Suami you came down 35:30 and we started to broadcast, I mean, to produce programs. 35:35 Praise the Lord. So that was at the genesis. 35:37 You would never think that a broken transmitter 35:40 would be a blessing from the Lord. Right. 35:43 But it was. So you began obviously in baby steps. 35:47 Were you daunted? 35:48 I mean, television, first of all, is not a cheap enterprise. 35:51 It's not an easy thing to get in. 35:52 It takes a lot to do. Right. 35:54 When you sort of got a handle on what it takes to do this, 35:58 were you encouraged, discouraged, scared? 36:02 How did it strike you at that point? 36:03 Well, we were very clear that there was a way 36:07 in which we can preach God's word. 36:12 So we sat down with a group of your channel 36:17 and we went through deep planning 36:20 and when we look at the figure we say, "Wow," 36:23 but we say, "Well, we heard your story. 36:26 How the Lord did so many miracles." Yes. 36:29 And we said, "Well, if the Lord want us 36:31 to get involved in this, He will open door for us too." 36:35 So we established a plan of three phases. 36:38 The first phase was the lighting for the church, 36:41 which we already accomplished. 36:43 We invested there about $87,000 with a lighting 36:47 and the installation and some electrical improvement 36:50 that we needed to do at the church 36:51 in order to run this new lighting system. 36:54 We're right now working in the second phase, 36:57 which is the production equipment. 37:00 That phase we estimated that is gonna cost around $175,000. 37:07 We have about $50,000. 37:09 So we are encouraging our members 37:12 to continue with the generosity for this project. 37:16 And then the third phase will be the editing equipment 37:19 and the editing education for members to do so. 37:25 So we're working and we're very happy. 37:30 And probably one of the motivating factors 37:32 that we have is 3ABN. 37:35 You have been our counselors throughout the process. 37:39 This is the fifth time your equipment fly to this church. 37:45 We are very happy that we are doing this live. 37:49 But we have produced with you more than 120 hours of programs. 37:55 We see the program broadcast in the Latino channel. 37:59 So we are seeing that our work is not in vain. 38:04 As a matter of fact, last year, 38:07 we did the Ten Commandment series here 38:10 and three people baptized-- Praise God. 38:13 Out of this series. So the Lord is blessing. 38:18 We think we are in the right track. 38:20 Every time we hear experiences about the church members, 38:24 how the Lord impressed them 38:25 to contribute in a miraculous way. 38:28 So we are very motivated to go forward. 38:30 Now, Nemuel, you're an elder in this church? 38:33 Not this year. 38:35 Because I am directly in the media center. In the media. 38:38 But media is not your background, not your vocation. 38:41 No, it's not. 38:43 I am a hospital administrator. Is that right? 38:46 That's my regular job. That's what I do for living. 38:50 So you're learning as you're going also? 38:52 That's right. Yeah. 38:54 And every time we tape some programs, 38:58 there is a school, we learn. 39:00 And this particular occasion that we're doing it live 39:04 is a new education program. Wow. 39:08 We praise the Lord. Praise the Lord for that. 39:12 Tell us about-- you mentioned miracles. 39:14 Is there anything that stands out in your mind 39:16 that God has done to sort of encourage you along the way? 39:18 You're still in a startup stage. 39:20 You're in stage number 2 of a 3-phase stage, 39:24 but does anything stand out in your mind 39:26 as far as God's leading hands showing you that He's in charge? 39:29 Well, several things, several things are in my mind. 39:32 For example, when we began to start this project, 39:38 we have zero money. 39:40 And in a period of time of 8 months, we raised $87,000. 39:47 And let me tell you a couple of stories about these. 39:49 One story was after we did a sermon to the congregation, 39:57 one member of this church, 39:59 he came out of his house and said, 40:03 "Lord, if you want me to contribute 40:05 to the media center, what can I do?" 40:07 And then he saw an old car 40:08 he haven't used it for a long time. 40:10 He said, "Well, Lord, if You let me to sell that car, 40:15 I'm gonna give the money to the media center." 40:17 In one week, the car was sold. Praise the Lord. 40:20 Another member of the church, a physician, 40:24 he was talking to his wife to get a new car. 40:28 After they listened to the sermon, 40:29 they say, "Well, you know to think it really, 40:32 I mean, the car is good, just a little bit old, but it's good. 40:35 How about if we make a pledge with the Lord, 40:38 the amount of money that we were going to pay 40:41 on a monthly basis for the new car, 40:45 let's put it on the church for the media center." 40:48 And they've been doing that. Let me tell you another story. 40:50 This is the last one. Cars are very interesting here. 40:55 There is a member of the church and he wanted to sell 40:59 this particular car, but he wanted particular price. 41:03 And people came to his house, saw the car, 41:08 was pretty good, but they wanted to pay lower. 41:12 So after he heard the last sermon 41:14 that we did this past month of January, 41:17 he said, "Well, Lord, you know, this car is good. 41:21 I want to sell it for this amount of money. 41:24 If You allow me to do that, 41:26 I'm gonna put $2,000 on the media center." 41:30 In one week, the car was sold. 41:32 Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. Yeah, this is-- 41:35 For the Lord is in a car selling business too, Jim. 41:37 Right, absolutely, and I tell you, it's amazing 41:41 but people can equate cars. 41:43 You know, they buy cars. They sell cars. 41:46 They think in terms-- and I've seen this happening 41:48 before where they'll think in terms of we can postpone 41:52 a car for a year and make that payment 41:55 towards a project like this. 41:57 And it's an amazing thing. It's not a bad appeal either. 42:01 That's right. It really isn't. 42:03 If you allow me to-- 42:05 let me speak a little bit about Bella Vista. 42:09 Probably, you heard already that 42:10 the Seventh-day Adventist work start here 42:13 in Mayaguez back in 1901. 42:18 In 1940, there was a physician 42:21 by the name of Dr. William Doscan. 42:24 He was a physician for the largest sugarcane company 42:27 in the world that at that time 42:28 was in the southern part of the island. 42:31 And a businessman from this town, 42:34 he heard about the good job that doctor was doing 42:38 and he visited him several times 42:40 and for years he was telling Dr. Doscan, 42:42 "Please come to Mayaguez. 42:44 Please establish a medical work in Mayaguez." 42:47 So Dr. Doscan came to Mayaguez in 1940 42:51 after he retired from the sugarcane company 42:54 as a physician over there and he established the hospital. 42:58 He established the school for the children 43:00 and then he established also the church. 43:03 He was so influential in this community, 43:06 that when there was a political problem in Cuba, 43:10 he lobbied with a church leader and the Antillean College 43:13 back then that was in Cuba 43:15 was moved to Mayaguez. Wow. 43:18 So we have that legacy of Dr. Doscan 43:23 that planted the seed in Mayaguez for the church 43:26 to grow that much and we're just carrying on 43:29 the legacy that he established here. 43:31 That's why you were talking about the college, 43:33 you were talking about the school, 43:35 you were talking about the hospital, and this church. 43:37 So there is a story behind it. 43:39 Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. 43:41 Ultimately, as you look down the road, 43:43 when your dream is up and fulfilled and running, 43:45 what do you envision this media center doing 43:48 at its hype when it is fully functional? 43:51 Once the media center is fully functional, 43:54 we ambition our church people to work side by side, 43:58 all the church very active in producing program 44:01 on a weekly basis, and those program 44:04 being send out to preach God's call. 44:10 And let me tell you something, 44:11 when we started this media center, we put a vision. 44:16 It's time to open the doors and our windows 44:18 from Bella Vista to the world. 44:20 And we've been doing that 44:22 this very night in less than 2 years. 44:24 We never dreamed that was gonna happen that soon, 44:27 that quick and it is happening. 44:30 And we praise the Lord for that. Praise the Lord. 44:32 That is a miracle. It really is. 44:35 I would like to add something here to what Nemuel is saying. 44:39 Nemuel has a vision. He's a man of vision. 44:41 And that is all--vision is what it takes for communications 44:47 and I am very pleased that we are here together. 44:50 It's like a dream come true. 44:52 He told me once, "Someday I would like 3ABN to come. 44:57 I would like to invite Pastor Gilley. 44:59 I would like to invite C.A. Murray, Danny Shelton," 45:04 but we were looking at this long term possibility 45:10 and now today we're all here. 45:12 So I know that it's been a dream for you. 45:15 As we've been realizing this series of the "Anchor of Truth" 45:21 this week on live, so the committee members, 45:25 we've been talking, and we have come to an agreement 45:27 when the Lord bless, He bless abundantly. Yes. 45:31 So we were planning to renew one by one 45:33 and He already had done all at once. 45:38 We are glad to know 45:39 that we're a blessing of the Lord. That's right. 45:41 Now, Nemuel, thank you so much. 45:42 We're gonna have to get you out 45:43 and get in your second in command, 45:47 if I can call her that, because we got a testimony to get in. 45:51 Our time is sort of getting away from us. 45:53 And ere know it, our time will be gone. 45:54 But we're gonna call Ivette del Toro to come. 45:57 She is a producer for the media center 46:00 and so glad to have you here 46:02 if you'll pick up that microphone. 46:04 Now again, your background is not in media. Is it? 46:09 No, my background is not in communications. 46:13 You and your husband own a business, I understand? 46:23 I studied administration and with my husband, 46:27 we have a business of in home care. 46:32 What is your function with the media center? 46:34 What do you do with the media center? 46:43 From the beginning of the media center, 46:46 I've been helping them well to establish the media center. 46:54 At that point, I was the church treasurer. Okay. 47:07 So I was part of the group who made analysis 47:10 of how much was needed to start this project. 47:17 Nemuel tells us what motivates and drives him. 47:21 Why do you-- this is extra time, extra work, 47:23 what motivates you to do this? 47:34 What for me is interesting, I was already acquainted 47:37 with the ministry of 3ABN. 47:46 You know, and the convention-- youth convention here 47:49 in Puerto Rico, the 3ABN team came, 47:52 so they came to see the church. 48:08 And what interested me is that the project 48:13 from the beginning involved so many people 48:15 that could be preaching the gospel 48:19 without having to really preach. 48:31 What impresses me is how adults and young people 48:34 have been involved in 48:36 the development of the media center. 48:40 We asked Nemuel and before we let you go, 48:42 I want to ask you the same question, 48:44 when you look at the-- down the road, the future, 48:47 what do you see this media center 48:49 doing for the cause of Christ? 48:54 Very interesting question. 49:01 I would like to see the media center 49:03 preaching about the love of Jesus. 49:22 The love of Jesus is reflected in my life. 49:25 If I love Jesus, 49:27 I have to share that with others. That's right. 49:31 Praise the Lord. Amen. 49:33 And that's what this is all about. Isn't it? 49:35 Talking about Jesus. Yeah. 49:37 And sharing Him. 49:39 You know, as we drive up here 49:40 and we sometimes take several different routes to get here, 49:44 we find a lot of gated homes, 49:47 homes with fences in front and gates 49:50 and there's no way to get behind those 49:54 except through media, because that is the way 49:57 you get through the gates. Oh, yeah. 49:59 Get into the home and not just once a week 50:03 but day after day after day, you're there with a message 50:08 and I have become so convinced that God is going to use media 50:14 even greater to finish the work. Praise the Lord. 50:25 Working with the media center, I had opportunity to visit 50:28 with people who have known 50:30 the gospel through 3ABN ministry. 50:45 Amen. Praise God. 50:47 Recently, I went to Dominican Republic 50:49 and a lady in the church recognized me 50:51 and she told me how her heart was transformed 50:55 by watching 3ABN and knowing about Jesus. Praise God. 50:59 As you see here on 3ABN-- 51:02 Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. 51:03 Ivette, we'll have to let you go 51:05 because our time is slipping away. 51:06 We've got to make a quick change and add a chair 51:07 because we want to bring in our last two people 51:10 for our segment before our time slips away. 51:12 Fernando Gonzalez and Yanira Matos, 51:14 we want to bring them in because this is--, 51:16 Jim, these are people who actually came to the Lord 51:19 through the ministry here out of this church 51:21 and we want to just talk to them 51:23 before our time gets away from us. 51:24 Yes. Welcome. 51:27 It's a lovely husband and wife team here. Yes. 51:29 Praise the Lord. And this is why we do this. 51:32 Yeah, yeah. And this is why we preach. 51:35 This is why we're on television. 51:37 Indeed, indeed. 51:39 You're gonna have to share that microphone a little bit. 51:42 But my understanding is, Fernando, you came first 51:46 to a Ten Commandments weekend, is that so? 51:50 Yes, that's correct. 51:57 Everything started because I work 52:00 in a security system, home security systems. 52:07 And I was doing an installation 52:08 to one of the brothers of the church. 52:16 So he had a flyer showing that in this church 52:20 there's gonna be a Ten Commandments 52:23 seminar taking place. Okay. 52:24 Now were you a religious guy? 52:25 Were you going to church before this? 52:34 We were congregating in another church 52:36 but we were not really committed. I understand. 52:49 So the first time that I came to church, 52:51 I wasn't very impressed but my wife was impressed. 53:04 So we decided to come and that day 53:06 when the series has started, 53:09 they gave us a little flyer with the Ten Commandments. 53:19 So when I read this flyer, 53:21 I see the Ten Commandments and read fourth commandment. 53:28 And that commandment was not in the commandments 53:31 that I was familiar with. 53:37 So what's going on? 53:47 So his wife knew-- has some knowledge 53:50 about the Ten Commandments and she said, 53:52 "Yes, these are the true Ten Commandments." 54:05 So we decided to continue as attending 54:07 to the Ten Commandment series that was being taped here 54:10 and we decided to stay in the church. 54:13 Praise the Lord. 54:14 So it was the Sabbath commandment 54:16 that sort of was the spark that got your attention. 54:21 Yes, that is correct. 54:23 Now pass it to your wife. 54:25 We need to hear from her just a little bit. 54:28 He says he was not too impressed the first time, but you were. 54:32 How were you impressed with what was going on here? 54:54 I had friends that we used to go out 54:57 and sometimes we were out to the movies. 54:58 And one day, one of my friends said, "Let's go to church." 55:01 And I said, "Well, if we are going to other places, 55:05 why not go into church?" And we came to church. 55:13 So I got familiar a little bit with Adventism. 55:23 So I told my husband, "If we ever go to a church, 55:26 it has to be a Seventh-day Adventist church." Amen. 55:38 So when the opportunity came, I told him, "Let's go. 55:41 We have nothing to lose. Let's go." 55:48 What I never thought or never crossed my mind 55:53 that this was going to be a big change in our lives. 55:58 But obviously it was. Yeah. Yes. 56:04 Was it a struggle to make the changes to become Adventist 56:07 or was it sort of a natural thing? 56:23 It was a rather easy process. 56:25 We didn't really have to change a whole lot in our lives. 56:28 Praise the Lord. Wow. 56:29 Well, that's some story. It is. 56:31 And an exciting story and, you know, 56:35 we can just see the love of Jesus on your faces. 56:38 And we know you love the Lord 56:39 and that you're standing by the word of God. 56:43 Well, listen, this has been 56:45 an exciting night for me. It has. 56:47 And, you know, C.A., 56:49 I repeat what I said at the very beginning, 56:52 I am so impressed with the enthusiasm 56:55 that the people of Puerto Rico have 56:57 for presenting the gospel of Jesus Christ. 57:01 It occurred to me real quick before our time goes out, 57:02 I'm watching the clock here. Yeah. 57:04 Fernando is working himself out of a job 57:05 because in heaven we aren't gonna need 57:07 any home security guys. No. That's right. 57:08 'Cause there won't be any lock on the doors. 57:11 That's right. We look forward to that-- 57:13 Yes, we do. 57:15 You know, we've had a wonderful time tonight. 57:18 We hope that you have been inspired 57:20 by how God's work is moving forward. 57:23 We need you to stand with us as you have 57:26 all these years and keep on 57:29 keeping on with Jesus Christ our Lord. |
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