Well, we've been learning
some very interesting things
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about the work
here in Puerto Rico.
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You see, growth
like we have seen
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just doesn't
happen automatically.
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No, it's no
accident. There's a plan here.
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There's a plan that
involves the medical work--
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Mm-hmm.
Educational work, evangelism--
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Mm. The media-- Yeah.
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And the media
is really big here.
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3ABN has been here for a
long time--Quite a while.
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And so we've been
part of that media inroads
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that have been made and are
gonna be even hopefully more.
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Mm-hmm. So because we're
converting now to digital,
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which means we'll
have four channels now.
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We're in the
eastern part of the island--
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No, we're in the
western part of the island.
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I'm talking about
where our 3ABN is.
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Oh, 3ABN is,
okay, yeah. I know--
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That's eastern. We're
in the western part, right.
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But the 3ABN tower
is-- Is in the east.
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In the eastern. That's correct.
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Right, right, San Juan area
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and it does hit a
very populous area. Yeah.
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Folks, we're gonna
see some exciting things
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happening in the future,
because we'll have four channels
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plus two radio channels.
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Four television
channels, 3ABN, 3ABN Latino,
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Dare to Dream and Proclaim. Hmm.
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And then two of the radio
channels, 3ABN Latino and 3ABN.
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So there's just no
way that that isn't gonna
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have an impact in
that particular area.
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Oh, I agree. I agree.
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And so we're excited
about that media outreach.
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Yeah, we are. Jorge,
I want to just go to you
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because you've spent
considerable time here.
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We talked about
your impressions,
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but you were here
a month last year.
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Tell us some of the
things that 3ABN has done
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even working with
this particular church
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and in media as
far as programming
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and some of the
things that you're looking at
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with 3ABN Latino
coming out of Puerto Rico.
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Si, uh, yes. Si. I'm
confused. Yeah, it's true.
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We have done quite a
bit of productions here
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and like--as I
said in the first hour,
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we have so many
talents and one of the things
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that we were into, to work
here with the media centers
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in series especially on
sciences and religion aspects.
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We just finished last September.
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We were here one month.
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And we finished a
series that is called
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"Ciencia Tres
Sesenta," science 360.
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It is a series of interview
with different scientists
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and professors
hosted by a person
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who is very well known
here, Dr. Efrain Velazquez,
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and they touch all
these topics about creation
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and sciences and religion
and actually this program
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has been a blessing.
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We have
received so much response
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and we are very,
very pleased for that.
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And we continue--
we want to continue
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to produce this kind of programs
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because this is--
like we were mentioning
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and at some point
last-- in the first hour,
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there's a university here
and there's different careers
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and the reputation of the
Seventh-day Adventist Church
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is also very strong
on the education part.
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So we want to
take advantage of that,
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if you will, to
show new programs
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that I will talk
about religions and science
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and also other topics and we
have that kind of academy here.
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We are starting a new
program, a children's program.
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So we're gonna also get
this type of programming
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in the air with many,
many opportunities and talents
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that we have
here in this church,
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in this community-- Mm-hmm.
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As far as, like, in
this case children programs.
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I know my wife is
producing a program
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and young people from this area
are coming to 3ABN currently--
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That is correct. Yeah.
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And, yes, we have
two representatives,
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two young, young
ladies that they went to 3ABN
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and they did a
program over there
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that is called
Cocina Con Color--Uh-huh.
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Cooking with color.
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And they are very
young, but very enthusiastic
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and they have projected
this Puerto Rican passion
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and they're
cooking and what their goal
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is to show how
kids, young kids--
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Mm-hmm. Teenagers can
also be useful in the kitchen.
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Mm. And they can
create different dishes
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and things and so Patricia
and Priscilla Gonzalez are the--
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Oh, yes. Ones who
are doing this program.
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Praise the Lord. So
I know that 3ABN Latino
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is very happy because
they're getting some benefit
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out of Puerto Rico, major
benefit and major programming.
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Yes. That is correct. Yes.
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Well, we've talked
about programming, Jim,
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and we've talked
about media outreach
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and, of course, we're TV guys--
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Yeah. But radio is still a very,
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very powerful,
powerful missionary tool.
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Very, very powerful. And--
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And a very important
part of 3ABN as well.
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Very much so, very much so. Yes.
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We're gonna ask, I want to get
his name, Jaime Blanco to come.
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He is the General
Manager of Radio Paraiso--
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Mm-hmm. Radio Paraiso
and he's a great host.
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He had us out for
lunch today. Great. Yes.
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See, I know--have affinity
because this is a New York guy.
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All right. He's
in Puerto Rico now,
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but he goes back
to the Bronx. Yes.
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He's a New York guy.
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So you and Pastor Lomacang,
this is a New York guy--
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Uh-huh. So we can talk with him.
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Okay. Well, I know one thing,
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that he has a
broad range of ministry.
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Mm-hmm. He has been
involved in the food business.
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That's right. And also in
media and in pastoral ministry.
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And today, tell us
a little bit about--
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we ate at a
health food restaurant
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that is located at
the conference office,
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tell us a little bit about that.
Yes, we have a supermarket.
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All right. West conference.
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We also have in that supermarket
a cafeteria and a ABC store.
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All right. So it's all
together and our customers
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will come in and they
can eat, or they can read--
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Uh-huh. Or they can
buy their supplies--
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Right. That they've
enjoyed at the cafeteria
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and also take home.
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And this has been
at least successful
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enough to stay in
business for a number of years.
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Yes, this had started
since 1998. Is that right?
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We have been
supplying all the supermarkets
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in Puerto Rico
besides selling our food
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to the neighbors near
the conference--Uh-huh.
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We also supply for the
supermarkets in Puerto Rico,
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vegetarian meats,
vegetarian products--
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Okay. And also the
health food stores--
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Right. Are being benefited
by our distribution of foods
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that can be
healthy for our listeners
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and also our
members from church.
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Wow. I didn't know
that, that comes through you.
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You are the
supplier for other markets?
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Yes. Our conference does
that for all of Puerto Rico
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and even the
Virgin Islands. Wow.
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Hmm, very good. Praise the Lord.
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So it's been a blessing not
only to have the opportunity
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to reach people with the food,
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but we also have the
opportunity in our conference,
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as you said
before, to reach the people
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through our
radio station. Mm-hmm.
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Well, we had lunch there
today and we were your guests
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and we
appreciated that very much.
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But it was not only
healthy, it was delicious.
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Amen. And I think we
enjoyed it very much.
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Indeed, we did. I
enjoyed mine, I did.
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Yeah, I enjoyed mine, yes.
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I could say that I did see
you enjoy your food today. Yes.
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Yeah. I really did--
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Now just to get
some background on you,
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you were born in Puerto
Rico or born in New York?
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I know you spent considerable
time in the States--
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Yes. But born here
or born in the States?
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I was born in New York.
Uh-huh. I was born in Bronx.
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Mm-hmm. In Bronx, New
York and after being there
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for 18 years is that when
I come to Puerto Rico in 1984
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and I start living
here in Puerto Rico
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and ever since, I've been here.
Mm-hmm. For the past 25 years.
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Uh-huh. All right. Hmm.
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Now your background is
in ministry? Yes, it is.
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Uh-huh. I have a
major in theology
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and I studied
at the university--
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Seventh-day Adventist
University here in Mayaguez--
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Uh-huh. That's where I
finished my theology major.
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Okay. And after that I
had the calling to stay
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in this Conference and
we've been working ever since.
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Mm-hmm. Hmm.
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So the brethren
asked you to go into radio.
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Did you immediately
see the benefit of moving
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from pastoral ministry into
really a wider sphere in radio?
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Well, it was a great challenge
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'cause I had never
been in radio before.
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Uh-huh. I did participate.
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I did have the opportunity
to share with the manager
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before me and it
was a great challenge
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and I thought that
if God had called me,
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he would also
prepare me to do so.
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Yes. Mm-hmm. And it's
been a great blessing. Mm-hmm.
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In reality, it's been
a great blessing to see
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and hear people give testimony
of what the radio station can do
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for their lives when they're
in a desperate situation.
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You know, a lot
of radio stations
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work on taped programs.
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In fact, some of them,
there's no one really alive
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there, except maybe an engineer
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and even during the nighttime,
it may be all automated.
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But when I went to your
radio station, I saw studios.
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I saw people running in and out.
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I even saw the chief of police
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coming to do an
interview program.
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We did an interview program.
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How many live
programs do you do a day?
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Well, we could say that at least
75% of our programs are live.
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Is that right? Yes, it is.
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And the rest of the
programs have been taped
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because of the people
that are running the program
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have other things to do so--Yes.
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Their time is not as
wide or broad-- Right.
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As ours,
so--they-- Right--right.
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They do the taping
before that. Uh-huh.
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But we also have
an English version
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of Paradise Radio. Okay.
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That's how we call
it in English. Uh-huh.
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Radio Paraiso and we also
have some of 3ABN programs
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in that radio
station-- All right.
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Now-- And in the internet.
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Is that a different letters
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and different
numbers on the dial?
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This is 90...what? 92.9.
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Okay. The FM in Puerto Rico--
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And is it all on 92.9 or
is there a different channel?
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That would be in
the internet. Okay.
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The radio station we
have in English version
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which we also try to reach other
people, besides--All right.
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Our Spanish speaking
here in Puerto Rico-- Yes.
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We have had the English
version also to reach the people
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that stay here in Puerto Rico
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that only speak English. Right.
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And it's been a
blessing 'cause we have calls
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from different countries-- Sure.
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Such as Iraq, Russia, Italy.
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So it's on the internet.
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It's on the internet.
That's right. All right.
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Yeah, we're looking
at some pictures now
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and I was just getting ready
to call for this Radio Paraiso.
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It's on the same campus
as the conference office
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and the health food store--
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Right. That's right.
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All sort of
tucked there together
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and really doing a
very, very fine job.
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You gave us some stories
that we kind of want you to--
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here's the conference
office we're looking at now.
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Beautiful campus,
very tropical feel
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and that's where you
have to go to work every day,
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bless your heart.
Yeah, that's right.
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That's not a bad place
to go to work every day,
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but you gave us some stories
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that I kind of want
you just recite now of--
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there were two very
powerful stories of the ministry
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that your station,
Radio Paraiso is doing
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and the lives that it
is saving and touching.
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Recount those stories for
us now, Jaime, if you will.
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Yes, the first one that I
had told you this morning is
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one of a man that we
received a letter today--
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yesterday, I'm sorry.
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He was a radio listener that was
going through a rough situation
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with his life and at one moment
he decided to commit suicide.
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And when he decided to do so,
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he started
breaking all the things
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he had in his house,
as he wrote in his letter
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and he was throwing things
left to right at his house
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and the last thing he
left to throw was his radio.
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So--but when he threw his radio,
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it was on Paradise
Radio, Radio Paraiso.
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And the song that was playing
is a song about the life of Noah
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when he was in the
ark and he sent a dove
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to go and see if it could--
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it was positive to already be
still and come out of the ark.
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And that song is relating
the dove to the Holy Spirit.
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How the Holy Spirit will go
out and come back and reach you
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and let you know
that there's hope.
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So he was listening to that song
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as he was thinking
about committing suicide.
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And at that moment, our DJ
or the radio controller said,
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"Listen, if you need prayer,
you can call me right now."
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And he gave out the phone number
and this person decided to call
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and God liberated him
from committing suicide
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at that moment-- Wow.
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And he's very
thankful to God for that.
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Praise the Lord. Yeah.
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And we've had other
situations like that before.
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Now before you go
to the other one just--
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I just want to stop there.
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Jim, that's no
accident. No, absolutely not.
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You know, at the moment that
you're getting ready-- Yeah.
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To sort of just end it
all, you throw your radio
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and there's a song
and an appeal-- Right.
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At the time that
you really need it
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and God provides
it. That's a blessing.
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That's the miracle
about that situation there.
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Yes. That's right--
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Yeah, even
though he did not have
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Paradise Radio on his
dial, on his radio station,
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it ended up and-- It
was there at that moment--
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Yeah. Praise the Lord for that.
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I tell you, when he
gets to the kingdom,
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he's gonna need
to talk to his angel.
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He sure does.
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And that angel was
flipping that dial pretty quick.
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Yes, he was, yes, he was. And--
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Now there was a second one
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equally as
dramatic that you said--
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Yeah. Tell us that story.
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Well, it's about a
person that is a guard.
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He works as a
guard for a company,
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a factory and he also has
in his mind to commit suicide
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and at that moment to avoid
people from listening the shot
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that he was gonna
give himself with his gun,
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he decided to put up real
loud the radio that he had.
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But the radio
station when he put it
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at real loud was on
Paradise Radio. Hmm.
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And at that moment, our
technician that was on the radio
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at that moment was appealing to
people if they had any problems,
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if they had any situations
that they needed prayer
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and he also said,
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"If you're trying to
commit suicide at this moment,
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I would like to tell you that
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there's somebody
that loves you." Mm.
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And at that moment,
when he heard those words,
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he was really impressed
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and he put down
the volume of his radio
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and the DJ that was
talking at that moment
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also gave the
phone number for prayer
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and he called and
he let our DJ know,
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John Estevez, which was
the person at that moment,
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that he had just
saved his life. Hmm.
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But it wasn't him,
it was God-- It was God.
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It was the Holy Spirit-- Yeah.
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Who had worked of again
putting that dial of his radio
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on Paradise Radio.
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Wow. Exactly. Wow. Powerful.
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Yeah. Powerful.
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And I guess you get
those kinds of things
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certainly maybe on
a daily, weekly basis.
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You're getting affirmations that
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you're meeting needs
here on the island. Oh, yes.
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We had one program that
was called "Try Jesus Christ."
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It was at the
beginning of 2010 in January.
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And we had people calling
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and asking for
prayer for 40 days.
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We did a 40-day plan of
prayer, intensive prayer,
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morning, afternoon, and evening.
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And people were calling.
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Some of those
testimonies were parents
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that had
situation with their sons
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and daughters
and it was wonderful
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to have those people
call back and let us know
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that God had done
something marvelous
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with their families. Hmm.
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And there was no problem
anymore with that situation
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where their parents
had a faulty situation
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with their son
or their daughter.
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God had reconciled that family.
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And it was great to
have those kind of calls
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and people that were calling
that God had even healed them
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from cancer was
one case that we heard.
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Mm. Mm.
00:16:02.91\00:16:04.28
Praise God. Wow.
00:16:04.31\00:16:05.77
Now I know you
live a little ways away.
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You're an hour or plus away.
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I guess, it makes
that drive that much easier
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and sweeter to know
that when you come to work,
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you're doing a ministry that
is saving and touching lives.
00:16:16.33\00:16:18.77
Oh, yes. I enjoy it very much.
00:16:18.80\00:16:20.93
It's been a great experience.
00:16:20.96\00:16:22.33
I thank God and the conference
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for giving me the opportunity
to work in the radio station
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and also our TV
station, which is Paradise Radio
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and Paradise TV-- Mm-hmm.
00:16:30.80\00:16:32.31
And we're working on,
on having more channels
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so that we can keep giving
the opportunity to the people
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to listen to the word of
God and see the word of God.
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Praise God. Yeah.
00:16:40.47\00:16:41.84
Praise God. It's
been a great experience.
00:16:41.87\00:16:43.64
To hear just the testimony
of people letting us know that
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God has touched those lives,
it's very impressive for us.
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You know, one of
the things that we like
00:16:51.26\00:16:52.63
and I know Jim likes this
too, 'cause we talk about this
00:16:52.66\00:16:54.82
a lot at 3ABN is
when we get hard evidence
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that someone was led to the Lord
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or to the Adventist
Church through our ministry.
00:17:00.21\00:17:03.42
We get them almost
on a daily basis. Yeah.
00:17:03.45\00:17:05.95
But there are
churches that baptize
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30, 40, 50 people
a year through 3ABN.
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Do you get that or do
you keep any kind of record
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of how many people come through
hearing your radio station
00:17:12.66\00:17:16.63
and come into the church of God?
00:17:16.66\00:17:18.03
Well, last year, we
started doing that account
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and we reached
10 souls last year.
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Praise the Lord. Wow.
00:17:23.51\00:17:24.88
Through our radio station
that were baptized-- Mm-hmm.
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And this year we have at
least eight people Mm-hmm.
00:17:26.64\00:17:29.22
That are starting the Bible
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to get prepared
for baptism. Mm-hmm.
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And we also have one testimony
which was very interesting
00:17:33.23\00:17:36.53
that he was
asking through facebook
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that if anybody
could help him to go
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and visit a
Seventh-day Adventist Church
00:17:41.58\00:17:44.54
in the West Conference
area, and I answered his call.
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I wrote to him and he wrote back
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and now he's
doing a theology major
00:17:51.32\00:17:54.45
at the university-- Oh, wow.
00:17:54.48\00:17:55.85
Of the Seventh-day
Adventist Church-- Wow.
00:17:55.88\00:17:57.50
And he was baptized
last week. Praise the Lord.
00:17:57.53\00:18:00.05
And God is really
working it and-- Yes.
00:18:00.08\00:18:01.65
Through our radio
station-- Yes, he is. Yes.
00:18:01.68\00:18:03.05
In great ways. Wow.
00:18:03.08\00:18:04.45
Not only in the church, Jim,
00:18:04.48\00:18:05.85
but in the church
and in the ministry--
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That's right.
Getting ready to call--
00:18:07.28\00:18:08.65
That's right.
Others to Christ. Yeah.
00:18:08.68\00:18:10.05
Well, I tell you,
it is an exciting thing
00:18:10.08\00:18:11.70
and those are the ones
that you directly know.
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You have no idea-- That's right.
00:18:15.09\00:18:16.46
Of those that
have been indirectly
00:18:16.49\00:18:19.33
reached with the
message and have found a church
00:18:19.36\00:18:22.70
on their own, never
said a word about-- Mm-hmm.
00:18:22.73\00:18:24.99
The fact that they've
been listening to the radio
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or watching your television,
but they simply found the church
00:18:26.88\00:18:31.38
and started
becoming a part of it.
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Yes, last week, on Saturday,
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when the
President was here with us,
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general conference
president-- Mm-hmm.
00:18:39.70\00:18:41.73
Ted Wilson, I had some-- a
female sit right next to me
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and her name is
Leslie and she told me
00:18:45.24\00:18:46.96
"You know what? I
accepted Jesus Christ
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through your radio
station." Praise God.
00:18:49.95\00:18:52.29
And that was great to hear
00:18:52.32\00:18:53.69
and it was an impressive
way the way it happened.
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She was driving on her way home
at 2 o'clock in the morning.
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She had just come out from a bar
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and she was there
listening to the radio
00:19:01.01\00:19:03.97
and all of a sudden she started
switching the radio station
00:19:04.00\00:19:06.07
and it ended up
in our dial, 92.9.
00:19:06.10\00:19:09.74
And they started
hearing a preacher
00:19:09.77\00:19:11.80
which was Alejandra
Bujon-- Is that right?
00:19:11.83\00:19:13.68
And it touched her
heart and she started crying.
00:19:13.71\00:19:16.44
She said she
couldn't stop crying.
00:19:16.47\00:19:18.19
And she kept on listening
at that--every, every morning
00:19:18.22\00:19:21.34
at 2 o'clock in the morning,
the sermons that we would
00:19:21.37\00:19:23.35
put through our
radio station. Mm-hmm.
00:19:23.38\00:19:25.02
And today, she is a
Seventh-day Adventist also.
00:19:25.05\00:19:27.03
Amen. Wow.
00:19:27.06\00:19:28.43
The Lord has touched her heart
00:19:28.46\00:19:29.83
and she's trying also to bring
her family to know Jesus Christ.
00:19:29.86\00:19:32.76
Jim, there's that
angel again turning the dial.
00:19:32.79\00:19:35.09
That's right.
That's right. Yeah.
00:19:35.12\00:19:36.58
Well, you have your
ways of the Lord working
00:19:36.61\00:19:39.30
with your TV
station and-- Yeah. Oh, yes.
00:19:39.33\00:19:42.17
And I'm sure glad God
has His angels working
00:19:42.20\00:19:43.57
also with our
radio station-- Yes.
00:19:43.60\00:19:45.24
We've had a remarkable number
of people who will get 3ABN
00:19:45.27\00:19:50.23
and they'll say they don't know
how they were getting it. Yes.
00:19:50.26\00:19:53.08
Because they
didn't have a satellite,
00:19:53.11\00:19:55.82
they were not on a cable.
00:19:55.85\00:19:58.03
We didn't maybe
even have a local station
00:19:58.06\00:20:01.10
in that particular area, but
they began to get it on their TV
00:20:01.13\00:20:04.64
and in several instances-- Yes.
00:20:04.67\00:20:06.61
They could only get 3ABN.
00:20:06.64\00:20:08.49
There was nothing else
that would come on. Yeah.
00:20:08.52\00:20:10.74
We had a story and I
thought this was great.
00:20:10.77\00:20:13.73
A lady told us, I
think it was in Vegas
00:20:13.76\00:20:15.60
that she was getting 3ABN
suddenly on her television set
00:20:15.63\00:20:21.65
and it stayed on.
00:20:21.68\00:20:23.23
She called the local church,
00:20:23.26\00:20:26.11
started
attending the local church,
00:20:26.14\00:20:28.82
got baptized in a local church
and the day she got baptized,
00:20:28.85\00:20:32.09
the signal went
off. Yeah, that's right.
00:20:32.12\00:20:33.58
And has never come back again
00:20:33.61\00:20:36.16
for God kept it just
long enough to get her in
00:20:36.19\00:20:39.31
and get her
baptized-- Amen, amen.
00:20:39.34\00:20:40.71
And then the signal
went off. Yeah, amen.
00:20:40.74\00:20:42.85
So it must be a blessing,
00:20:42.88\00:20:44.25
truly a blessing
for you to work in radio
00:20:44.28\00:20:46.21
and in media and
in doing something
00:20:46.24\00:20:48.03
that touches the hearts
of so many people. Oh, yes.
00:20:48.06\00:20:49.45
It's also a blessing
to be able to reach people
00:20:49.48\00:20:52.06
not only through
our frequency in 92.9,
00:20:52.09\00:20:54.22
but also on the internet--
00:20:54.25\00:20:55.62
Mm-hmm. Yes.
00:20:55.65\00:20:57.02
Our web page is www.wtpm.org,
00:20:57.05\00:21:01.50
and you can select
our page right there
00:21:01.53\00:21:04.01
and you can listen live. Hmm--
00:21:04.04\00:21:05.41
To our radio
station not only in Spanish,
00:21:05.44\00:21:07.09
but also in English.
Praise God, Praise God.
00:21:07.12\00:21:08.92
Let me ask you this,
just a quick question
00:21:08.95\00:21:10.32
before I let you go.
00:21:10.35\00:21:11.72
How far does
your station extend,
00:21:11.75\00:21:13.57
you know, in miles around?
00:21:13.60\00:21:14.97
Well, we reach more
than half of Puerto Rico.
00:21:15.00\00:21:17.76
We reach from the West Coast
00:21:17.79\00:21:19.32
all the way down
to the Northeast Coast
00:21:19.35\00:21:21.72
and the Southeast
Coast also. Mm-hmm.
00:21:21.75\00:21:24.14
So we could say it's a
pretty large radius-- Yes.
00:21:24.17\00:21:27.46
Close to 70 miles on a
radius that we reach--Yeah.
00:21:27.49\00:21:30.91
Over three quarters--close
to three quarters of Puerto Rico
00:21:30.94\00:21:34.46
and it's great to even
be driving all the way down
00:21:34.49\00:21:36.87
to one of the
towns called Dorado,
00:21:36.90\00:21:38.84
which is pretty far from here.
00:21:38.87\00:21:40.24
It's like an hour
and a half drive or more
00:21:40.27\00:21:42.35
and we could still listen--
00:21:42.38\00:21:43.75
Oh, praise the
Lord, yeah. To 92.9--
00:21:43.78\00:21:45.15
Yeah. Radio Paraiso. Yeah.
00:21:45.18\00:21:46.55
We were listening to it,
00:21:46.58\00:21:47.95
Camille and I were on
the way out here tonight
00:21:47.98\00:21:49.53
and we had a very good signal
and we were enjoying the program
00:21:49.56\00:21:54.18
and it was music,
00:21:54.21\00:21:55.58
almost all music all the
time we were listening. Yes.
00:21:55.61\00:21:58.06
And it was
beautiful music. Amen.
00:21:58.09\00:21:59.99
Very, very good.
00:22:00.02\00:22:01.39
Yeah, it's
remarkable because you have so--
00:22:01.42\00:22:03.85
you have a good
number of mountains here
00:22:03.88\00:22:06.10
and that you're
getting over those mountains
00:22:06.13\00:22:07.71
and still covering
so much of the island.
00:22:07.74\00:22:09.56
How old is the station?
00:22:09.59\00:22:10.96
I don't know if
we touched on that.
00:22:10.99\00:22:12.36
When did you first
begin broadcasting?
00:22:12.39\00:22:13.76
Well, we started
40 years ago. Uh-huh.
00:22:13.79\00:22:15.16
40 years ago we
started in a garage of a house
00:22:15.19\00:22:17.83
of an engineer
called Ricardo Vega.
00:22:17.86\00:22:21.98
He started the radio
station at his house.
00:22:22.01\00:22:24.27
And after a few years of
starting the radio station
00:22:24.30\00:22:27.26
at his house, he
decided to give it to
00:22:27.29\00:22:30.29
or sell it to the
West Conference. Uh-huh.
00:22:30.32\00:22:32.97
And the West Conference
started at one of the mountains
00:22:33.00\00:22:35.43
where we have our tower.
00:22:35.46\00:22:37.56
The guys used to call
down here with walkie-talkies
00:22:37.59\00:22:39.99
and let them know
what was going to be next
00:22:40.02\00:22:41.78
and that's how it started.
00:22:41.81\00:22:43.55
And so then we came
down to the Conference
00:22:43.58\00:22:46.04
and we had a little room
that was separated for us
00:22:46.07\00:22:48.56
and now we have,
by the blessing of God
00:22:48.59\00:22:50.92
and by the
blessing through the people
00:22:50.95\00:22:53.12
that listen to the listeners
'cause they're the ones
00:22:53.15\00:22:55.04
that support our radio station,
now we have a whole building.
00:22:55.07\00:22:58.27
Yeah. And we can
share it with others. Yeah.
00:22:58.30\00:23:01.55
And--Yeah, a new
microwave up to a tower on--
00:23:01.58\00:23:04.53
That's right. On the mountain.
00:23:04.63\00:23:06.00
On the mountain. Mm-hmm.
00:23:06.03\00:23:07.40
And so it's good. Yeah.
00:23:07.43\00:23:08.80
Great reception.
00:23:08.83\00:23:10.20
As we saw on the video,
very beautiful facility-- Yeah.
00:23:10.23\00:23:11.60
Very well run,
lovely place to be
00:23:11.63\00:23:13.67
and thank you so
very, very much--
00:23:13.70\00:23:15.55
Thank you very much.
00:23:15.58\00:23:16.95
For just giving us a
little taste of what's happening
00:23:16.98\00:23:18.35
through radio here
in West Conference.
00:23:18.38\00:23:21.49
God bless you.
Thank you very much.
00:23:21.52\00:23:22.89
All righty. God bless you.
00:23:22.92\00:23:25.48
We want to fit,
Jim, now to some of
00:23:25.51\00:23:27.64
the work being done in
this local church. Yes.
00:23:27.67\00:23:29.88
Because as Jorge has intimated,
00:23:29.91\00:23:32.37
they're doing
some great media things
00:23:32.40\00:23:34.15
in this local church-- Uh-huh.
00:23:34.18\00:23:36.08
And really
there's a vision here,
00:23:36.11\00:23:39.52
that's being
underrated by the vision
00:23:39.55\00:23:40.92
that we've seen in the total
island of Puerto Rico. Yes.
00:23:40.95\00:23:43.14
From the union to the
conference, to the radio,
00:23:43.17\00:23:45.01
to the hospital, to the school,
00:23:45.04\00:23:46.59
and now the local
church as we call Pastor Parra
00:23:46.62\00:23:48.81
up to be with us
because the local church
00:23:48.84\00:23:51.84
is doing some great
things and on our credits
00:23:51.87\00:23:53.83
for our "Anchors of Truth,"
00:23:53.86\00:23:55.38
we've begun to put thanks
00:23:55.41\00:23:57.42
to the Bella Vista
Media Center, Pastor,
00:23:57.45\00:24:00.03
and we want to talk about that
00:24:00.06\00:24:01.86
and a little bit
about his work here-- Yes.
00:24:01.89\00:24:04.51
At the church. All right.
00:24:04.54\00:24:07.45
Yes, we are very happy for
what the Lord is providing us
00:24:14.04\00:24:18.23
to do here in this
church with a very nice,
00:24:18.26\00:24:22.65
very good dedicated
group of people. Mm-hmm.
00:24:22.68\00:24:26.18
I praise the Lord for this and
there's a good group of people
00:24:36.60\00:24:42.48
under the
leadership of the media center
00:24:42.51\00:24:46.12
director Brother Nemuel Artiles.
00:24:46.15\00:24:50.02
Tell us a little bit about you,
00:24:50.05\00:24:51.84
where you were born
and where you were educated
00:24:51.87\00:24:54.62
and how you became an
Adventist and so forth.
00:24:54.65\00:24:58.25
I am from Columbia--
00:25:10.41\00:25:11.88
And the Lord
called me to the ministry
00:25:11.91\00:25:14.00
when I was 17 years old.
00:25:14.03\00:25:15.46
Mm-hmm. All right.
00:25:15.49\00:25:16.94
See, I received a
call to come to Puerto Rico
00:25:23.06\00:25:25.95
and I've been
adopted and I've been loved.
00:25:25.98\00:25:28.22
So I'm gonna stay
here for the grace of God.
00:25:28.25\00:25:30.63
All right, all
right. Praise the Lord.
00:25:30.66\00:25:32.77
I've been working
here at the Bella Vista
00:25:42.40\00:25:44.88
for 2 years with my wife
Liliana and my two daughters.
00:25:44.91\00:25:50.12
All right. Wonderful.
00:25:50.15\00:25:52.55
You came--when you came,
the media center was already
00:25:52.58\00:25:55.85
in existence
and getting started.
00:25:55.88\00:26:00.54
Did you feel God's
call to support that work?
00:26:00.57\00:26:03.52
Because it's
unusual for a local church
00:26:03.55\00:26:06.21
to start up a
whole media ministry,
00:26:06.24\00:26:08.78
particularly a
television ministry on its own.
00:26:08.81\00:26:13.10
I am praising the
Lord because this project
00:26:21.09\00:26:23.31
had started before I
came and we are learning.
00:26:23.34\00:26:27.12
Then I feel the
conviction from the Lord
00:26:34.32\00:26:36.62
to support this
ministry for this time.
00:26:36.65\00:26:39.01
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:26:39.04\00:26:40.72
We are at the end of
times and the Lord wants us
00:26:50.62\00:26:54.08
to use different
methods to reach people.
00:26:54.11\00:26:57.64
And I also praise the
Lord for the ministry of 3ABN
00:27:05.42\00:27:08.79
has been helping to reach
the world with the gospel.
00:27:08.82\00:27:14.34
We're going to have
00:27:14.37\00:27:15.74
Nemuel come up in just
a little bit to talk about
00:27:15.77\00:27:17.37
specifically the
media center ministry,
00:27:17.40\00:27:19.28
but what other kinds of
things is the church doing
00:27:19.31\00:27:22.92
to try to reach
out to the community?
00:27:22.95\00:27:24.32
You're in a very unique area,
00:27:24.35\00:27:26.30
but what kinds of
things is the church doing
00:27:26.33\00:27:27.70
to reach out to the community
in addition to the media work?
00:27:27.73\00:27:32.77
We have the hospital.
00:27:44.07\00:27:45.59
They're right
just next door to us.
00:27:45.62\00:27:47.84
So we are taking
advantage of that
00:27:47.87\00:27:50.46
to do service to the community.
00:27:50.49\00:27:53.43
And also because
we have the academy
00:28:01.24\00:28:04.40
right next door too,
00:28:04.43\00:28:05.95
we are using that as another
tool to reach the community.
00:28:05.98\00:28:10.60
And the church is
supporting two pathfinder clubs
00:28:20.27\00:28:26.70
that we are supporting that way
00:28:26.73\00:28:29.37
we can reach also that
segment of the community.
00:28:29.40\00:28:34.01
And this year, we
have several ministries
00:28:40.45\00:28:42.35
serving the community.
00:28:42.38\00:28:43.81
Praise the Lord.
00:28:43.84\00:28:45.21
We are trying to visit people
with needs, special needs.
00:28:52.40\00:28:58.46
To help them also,
00:28:58.49\00:28:59.86
we are starting
our prison ministry.
00:28:59.89\00:29:03.00
Then we also are taking--
00:29:08.44\00:29:09.81
we're taking
care of the homeless
00:29:09.84\00:29:11.76
using the pathfinders
to help us with that.
00:29:11.79\00:29:15.31
Praise the
Lord. Praise the Lord.
00:29:15.34\00:29:18.07
Well, you've got a
great ministry going,
00:29:18.10\00:29:20.58
a beautiful church, a
wonderful congregation
00:29:20.61\00:29:24.33
and I know that God is
blessing your efforts here--
00:29:24.36\00:29:28.69
And it's a very exciting area
00:29:28.72\00:29:33.29
and I'm just very
impressed with the growth
00:29:33.32\00:29:36.69
that we've seen here. Yeah.
00:29:36.72\00:29:38.12
I just want to take
one more look at the video.
00:29:38.15\00:29:40.54
I'm gonna ask Joel
and the guys to roll this.
00:29:40.57\00:29:43.15
You know, this is such
an impressive place to be.
00:29:43.18\00:29:45.08
It's an impressive
place to be on Sabbath.
00:29:45.11\00:29:47.08
This is, you know,
the church building.
00:29:47.11\00:29:49.57
It's perched really here
00:29:49.60\00:29:51.00
on the side of the
mountain and gorgeous views.
00:29:51.03\00:29:54.98
It's a beautiful building.
00:29:55.01\00:29:56.62
There's the front of the church
00:29:56.65\00:29:58.02
and then just to the right
down the hill is the school
00:29:58.05\00:30:01.37
and then down the
hill again is the hospital
00:30:01.40\00:30:03.39
and, you know,
you've sort of pressured-
00:30:03.42\00:30:04.89
you kind of feel like you're
a little close to heaven, Jim,
00:30:04.92\00:30:07.09
a little piece
of heaven up here.
00:30:07.12\00:30:08.49
Yeah. Yeah, really nice.
Really, really, well done.
00:30:08.52\00:30:10.04
It's very well done and
a very nice place. Yeah.
00:30:10.07\00:30:14.68
Pastor, thank you so very much.
00:30:14.71\00:30:16.08
We're gonna actually talk
to some of your members now
00:30:16.11\00:30:17.95
and dig a little more
into this media ministry
00:30:17.98\00:30:20.43
being run out of this church.
00:30:20.46\00:30:22.70
Thank you so very
much for your support
00:30:22.73\00:30:24.74
and I know that they are
very, very thankful also.
00:30:24.77\00:30:26.54
And you have made
us feel very welcome.
00:30:26.57\00:30:28.70
Thank you very much. God bless.
00:30:28.73\00:30:31.01
Oh, yes. You know, I was just
thinking of the translation.
00:30:31.04\00:30:36.66
Translation is so important.
00:30:36.69\00:30:38.93
It has to be accurate
00:30:38.96\00:30:41.00
and I believe that we've
got a very good translator.
00:30:41.03\00:30:44.92
I've had translators
that were interpreters
00:30:44.95\00:30:47.61
instead of translators.
Instead of translators, yes.
00:30:47.64\00:30:49.55
They would change things.
00:30:49.58\00:30:50.95
And John and I were talking
about that, John Lomacang.
00:30:50.98\00:30:53.83
And he was telling
me about a translator
00:30:53.86\00:30:56.84
who--he was translating
and the man was telling about
00:30:56.87\00:31:00.72
a bear chasing him and
the people began to laugh.
00:31:00.75\00:31:05.48
And he said,
"Why are you laughing?
00:31:05.51\00:31:08.89
Why are the people laughing?"
He said to his translator.
00:31:08.92\00:31:11.86
And the translator said,
"Well, I don't know the word
00:31:11.89\00:31:14.38
for bear in Spanish,
so I just said rabbit."
00:31:14.41\00:31:20.11
And if a man is
running from a rabbit,
00:31:20.14\00:31:23.15
it's a great deal of difference
than running from a bear,
00:31:23.18\00:31:25.73
you know. Running from a bear.
00:31:25.76\00:31:27.13
So--Right, so I thought
00:31:27.16\00:31:28.78
that was a great
translator story.
00:31:28.81\00:31:31.48
So, Jorge, we want to
thank you and give you flowers
00:31:31.51\00:31:33.55
while you can still smell
them. Thank you for translating.
00:31:33.58\00:31:36.11
I thank you for your kind words
00:31:36.14\00:31:39.13
but I have to
apologize to the viewers
00:31:39.16\00:31:41.50
because my accent
always get in the way.
00:31:41.53\00:31:44.57
We'll do our best.
God will do the best.
00:31:44.60\00:31:47.95
I don't know do you
have an accent in Spanish?
00:31:47.98\00:31:49.60
'Cause you don't- you
do fine in English. So...
00:31:49.63\00:31:51.91
My accent is mixed of--
00:31:51.94\00:31:55.32
You've got an
accent in both languages.
00:31:55.35\00:31:57.25
I do. Okay.
00:31:57.28\00:31:58.68
My wife Irma
can tell pretty much
00:31:58.71\00:32:00.29
by listening to the different
accents where people are from
00:32:00.32\00:32:06.40
I can do that with
most West Indian Islands.
00:32:06.43\00:32:08.26
I can tell Jamaica from
Trinidad and that kind of thing
00:32:08.29\00:32:10.37
but Irma can tell South
America, Central America,
00:32:10.40\00:32:13.86
from Costa Rica, from Panama,
00:32:13.89\00:32:15.26
she says there
are differences-- Yes.
00:32:15.29\00:32:16.66
I can't pick them up
but Irma knows them. Yeah--
00:32:16.69\00:32:18.17
There's very, very
distinctive differences
00:32:18.20\00:32:20.61
especially South America,
Central America, Mexico.
00:32:20.64\00:32:23.74
We have our little differences
00:32:23.77\00:32:25.49
and sometimes we
have to be very careful
00:32:25.52\00:32:28.06
when we say certain words that
mean something totally different
00:32:28.09\00:32:32.51
and not always a
good thing to repeat it.
00:32:32.54\00:32:35.80
So we have to be careful.
00:32:35.83\00:32:37.20
Well, when I was
in Ukraine preaching,
00:32:37.23\00:32:38.99
my good friend and
one of my best friends,
00:32:39.02\00:32:41.43
Valery
Tchunkovski, was my translator
00:32:41.46\00:32:44.33
and sometimes people
would come up and say,
00:32:44.36\00:32:46.78
you know, you're
preaching one sermon,
00:32:46.81\00:32:48.18
he's preaching another one.
00:32:48.21\00:32:49.58
So we know-- they
understood both languages.
00:32:49.61\00:32:52.13
And so whatever
Valery was doing,
00:32:52.16\00:32:55.68
it worked because the Lord
gave us tremendous baptisms.
00:32:55.71\00:32:58.69
Praise the Lord.
00:32:58.72\00:33:00.09
And it was probably His
preaching rather than mine.
00:33:00.12\00:33:03.84
We're gonna call
Nemuel Artiles up now.
00:33:03.87\00:33:06.13
He is the director of the
Bella Vista Media Center--
00:33:06.16\00:33:08.75
All right.
00:33:08.78\00:33:10.15
That is
headquarter to this church.
00:33:10.18\00:33:11.55
Want to get a
little background on him
00:33:11.58\00:33:12.95
and find out how a
church got a vision
00:33:12.98\00:33:15.99
to become a media center
00:33:16.02\00:33:17.39
that really is
beginning to reach the world.
00:33:17.42\00:33:18.79
Nemuel, good to
have you here. Thank you.
00:33:18.82\00:33:20.30
My pleasure to be
here with you all. Yes.
00:33:20.33\00:33:22.85
Tell us a little bit about that.
00:33:22.88\00:33:24.38
How'd it get
started? Whose idea was it?
00:33:24.41\00:33:27.43
Well, it was the idea of
Anibal Gonzalez and myself.
00:33:27.46\00:33:31.91
Basically, as you can see,
we are up in the top of a hill
00:33:31.94\00:33:36.47
and it's kind of a
difficult to do some visit,
00:33:36.50\00:33:40.77
you know, to go door to
door because of the fences
00:33:40.80\00:33:44.56
and the type of
houses that are here
00:33:44.59\00:33:47.16
but still we have
the commission--Yes.
00:33:47.19\00:33:49.09
And we need to preach the word.
00:33:49.12\00:33:51.15
So we started that several years
ago with a little radio station.
00:33:51.18\00:33:55.13
We have one watt and we were
sending cards to our neighbors,
00:33:55.16\00:33:59.38
please tune up this frequency
00:33:59.41\00:34:02.07
so you can
listen to our service.
00:34:02.10\00:34:04.25
At that time, we were told that
one watt was okay with the FCC.
00:34:04.28\00:34:10.08
Well, by the grace of the Lord,
the transmitter broke down.
00:34:10.11\00:34:15.51
We didn't know it. It
was down for 6 months or so.
00:34:15.54\00:34:20.75
One day, the pastor was
here and the FCC officer came in
00:34:20.78\00:34:25.21
and he said we heard
that there is a radio station
00:34:25.24\00:34:28.62
without license
broadcasting out of this church.
00:34:28.65\00:34:32.25
And the pastor says,
00:34:32.28\00:34:33.65
"Well," and by the
way, he was a new pastor.
00:34:33.68\00:34:35.24
He didn't know about it.
00:34:35.27\00:34:36.64
So they began to
search and began to search
00:34:36.67\00:34:40.47
and finally they found
the broken transmitter.
00:34:40.50\00:34:45.41
And then the officer says,
00:34:45.44\00:34:47.23
"Well, I mean, kind of
a monitoring for 2 weeks.
00:34:47.26\00:34:50.81
I didn't see-- I
didn't hear any signal.
00:34:50.84\00:34:53.75
So you told me you
did not know anything.
00:34:53.78\00:34:56.60
You're okay, but
please don't do it.
00:34:56.63\00:34:59.18
But then we kept--
what we're gonna do?
00:34:59.21\00:35:03.30
And then it came to our mind
00:35:03.33\00:35:05.25
an idea of how about
making programs for TV?
00:35:05.28\00:35:11.26
So the idea began
to flow in our mind
00:35:11.29\00:35:16.04
and one day, one
member of this church
00:35:16.07\00:35:18.40
Suami Sepulveda, she visit here
00:35:18.43\00:35:22.05
and she came back and she say,
00:35:22.08\00:35:23.45
you know what? I
think 3ABN can help us out.
00:35:23.48\00:35:26.95
So through Suami you came down
00:35:26.98\00:35:30.75
and we started to broadcast,
I mean, to produce programs.
00:35:30.78\00:35:35.48
Praise the Lord. So
that was at the genesis.
00:35:35.51\00:35:37.35
You would never think
that a broken transmitter
00:35:37.38\00:35:40.26
would be a blessing
from the Lord. Right.
00:35:40.29\00:35:43.04
But it was. So you
began obviously in baby steps.
00:35:43.07\00:35:47.49
Were you daunted?
00:35:47.52\00:35:48.89
I mean, television, first of
all, is not a cheap enterprise.
00:35:48.92\00:35:51.33
It's not an
easy thing to get in.
00:35:51.36\00:35:52.86
It takes a lot to do. Right.
00:35:52.89\00:35:54.72
When you sort of got a handle
on what it takes to do this,
00:35:54.75\00:35:58.51
were you
encouraged, discouraged, scared?
00:35:58.54\00:36:02.02
How did it strike
you at that point?
00:36:02.05\00:36:03.77
Well, we were very
clear that there was a way
00:36:03.80\00:36:07.24
in which we can
preach God's word.
00:36:07.27\00:36:12.07
So we sat down with
a group of your channel
00:36:12.10\00:36:17.48
and we went
through deep planning
00:36:17.51\00:36:20.16
and when we look at
the figure we say, "Wow,"
00:36:20.19\00:36:23.73
but we say, "Well,
we heard your story.
00:36:23.76\00:36:26.83
How the Lord did so
many miracles." Yes.
00:36:26.86\00:36:29.37
And we said,
"Well, if the Lord want us
00:36:29.40\00:36:31.73
to get involved in this,
He will open door for us too."
00:36:31.76\00:36:35.00
So we established a
plan of three phases.
00:36:35.03\00:36:38.61
The first phase was the
lighting for the church,
00:36:38.64\00:36:41.31
which we already accomplished.
00:36:41.34\00:36:43.30
We invested there
about $87,000 with a lighting
00:36:43.33\00:36:47.58
and the installation and
some electrical improvement
00:36:47.61\00:36:50.29
that we needed
to do at the church
00:36:50.32\00:36:51.91
in order to run
this new lighting system.
00:36:51.94\00:36:54.94
We're right now
working in the second phase,
00:36:54.97\00:36:57.61
which is the
production equipment.
00:36:57.64\00:37:00.04
That phase we estimated that
is gonna cost around $175,000.
00:37:00.07\00:37:07.73
We have about $50,000.
00:37:07.76\00:37:09.61
So we are
encouraging our members
00:37:09.64\00:37:12.38
to continue with the
generosity for this project.
00:37:12.41\00:37:15.97
And then the third phase
will be the editing equipment
00:37:16.00\00:37:19.37
and the editing
education for members to do so.
00:37:19.40\00:37:25.51
So we're working
and we're very happy.
00:37:25.54\00:37:30.05
And probably one of
the motivating factors
00:37:30.08\00:37:32.75
that we have is 3ABN.
00:37:32.78\00:37:35.41
You have been our counselors
throughout the process.
00:37:35.44\00:37:39.93
This is the fifth time your
equipment fly to this church.
00:37:39.96\00:37:45.72
We are very happy that
we are doing this live.
00:37:45.75\00:37:49.01
But we have produced with you
more than 120 hours of programs.
00:37:49.04\00:37:55.31
We see the program
broadcast in the Latino channel.
00:37:55.34\00:37:59.56
So we are seeing that
our work is not in vain.
00:37:59.59\00:38:04.64
As a matter of fact, last year,
00:38:04.67\00:38:07.33
we did the Ten
Commandment series here
00:38:07.36\00:38:10.78
and three people
baptized-- Praise God.
00:38:10.81\00:38:13.71
Out of this series.
So the Lord is blessing.
00:38:13.74\00:38:18.18
We think we are
in the right track.
00:38:18.21\00:38:20.17
Every time we hear experiences
about the church members,
00:38:20.20\00:38:24.12
how the Lord impressed them
00:38:24.15\00:38:25.75
to contribute in
a miraculous way.
00:38:25.78\00:38:28.17
So we are very
motivated to go forward.
00:38:28.20\00:38:30.70
Now, Nemuel, you're
an elder in this church?
00:38:30.73\00:38:33.62
Not this year.
00:38:33.65\00:38:35.31
Because I am directly in
the media center. In the media.
00:38:35.34\00:38:38.21
But media is not your
background, not your vocation.
00:38:38.24\00:38:41.48
No, it's not.
00:38:41.51\00:38:43.10
I am a hospital
administrator. Is that right?
00:38:43.13\00:38:46.73
That's my regular job.
That's what I do for living.
00:38:46.76\00:38:50.29
So you're learning
as you're going also?
00:38:50.32\00:38:52.07
That's right. Yeah.
00:38:52.10\00:38:54.29
And every time we
tape some programs,
00:38:54.32\00:38:58.79
there is a school, we learn.
00:38:58.82\00:39:00.70
And this particular occasion
that we're doing it live
00:39:00.73\00:39:04.33
is a new education program. Wow.
00:39:04.36\00:39:08.33
We praise the Lord.
Praise the Lord for that.
00:39:08.36\00:39:12.07
Tell us about--
you mentioned miracles.
00:39:12.10\00:39:14.80
Is there anything that
stands out in your mind
00:39:14.83\00:39:16.60
that God has done to sort
of encourage you along the way?
00:39:16.63\00:39:18.91
You're still in a startup stage.
00:39:18.94\00:39:20.71
You're in stage
number 2 of a 3-phase stage,
00:39:20.74\00:39:24.77
but does anything
stand out in your mind
00:39:24.80\00:39:26.95
as far as God's leading hands
showing you that He's in charge?
00:39:26.98\00:39:29.14
Well, several things,
several things are in my mind.
00:39:29.17\00:39:32.39
For example, when we
began to start this project,
00:39:32.42\00:39:38.15
we have zero money.
00:39:38.18\00:39:40.14
And in a period of time of
8 months, we raised $87,000.
00:39:40.17\00:39:47.00
And let me tell you a
couple of stories about these.
00:39:47.03\00:39:49.88
One story was after we did
a sermon to the congregation,
00:39:49.91\00:39:57.26
one member of this church,
00:39:57.29\00:39:59.26
he came out of
his house and said,
00:39:59.29\00:40:03.03
"Lord, if you
want me to contribute
00:40:03.06\00:40:05.45
to the media
center, what can I do?"
00:40:05.48\00:40:07.53
And then he saw an old car
00:40:07.56\00:40:08.93
he haven't used
it for a long time.
00:40:08.96\00:40:10.67
He said, "Well, Lord, if
You let me to sell that car,
00:40:10.70\00:40:15.06
I'm gonna give the
money to the media center."
00:40:15.09\00:40:17.33
In one week, the car
was sold. Praise the Lord.
00:40:17.36\00:40:20.56
Another member of
the church, a physician,
00:40:20.59\00:40:24.37
he was talking to his
wife to get a new car.
00:40:24.40\00:40:27.99
After they
listened to the sermon,
00:40:28.02\00:40:29.89
they say, "Well, you
know to think it really,
00:40:29.92\00:40:32.31
I mean, the car is good, just
a little bit old, but it's good.
00:40:32.34\00:40:35.55
How about if we make
a pledge with the Lord,
00:40:35.58\00:40:38.57
the amount of money
that we were going to pay
00:40:38.60\00:40:41.89
on a monthly
basis for the new car,
00:40:41.92\00:40:45.04
let's put it on the
church for the media center."
00:40:45.07\00:40:48.02
And they've been doing that.
Let me tell you another story.
00:40:48.05\00:40:50.74
This is the last one.
Cars are very interesting here.
00:40:50.77\00:40:55.42
There is a member of the
church and he wanted to sell
00:40:55.45\00:40:59.75
this particular car, but
he wanted particular price.
00:40:59.78\00:41:03.94
And people came to
his house, saw the car,
00:41:03.97\00:41:08.31
was pretty good, but
they wanted to pay lower.
00:41:08.34\00:41:12.45
So after he
heard the last sermon
00:41:12.48\00:41:14.91
that we did this
past month of January,
00:41:14.94\00:41:17.94
he said, "Well, Lord,
you know, this car is good.
00:41:17.97\00:41:21.18
I want to sell it
for this amount of money.
00:41:21.21\00:41:24.10
If You allow me to do that,
00:41:24.13\00:41:26.87
I'm gonna put $2,000
on the media center."
00:41:26.90\00:41:30.66
In one week, the car was sold.
00:41:30.69\00:41:32.70
Praise the Lord. Praise
the Lord. Yeah, this is--
00:41:32.73\00:41:35.74
For the Lord is in a car
selling business too, Jim.
00:41:35.77\00:41:37.16
Right, absolutely, and
I tell you, it's amazing
00:41:37.19\00:41:41.29
but people can equate cars.
00:41:41.32\00:41:43.76
You know, they buy
cars. They sell cars.
00:41:43.79\00:41:46.09
They think in terms--
and I've seen this happening
00:41:46.12\00:41:48.59
before where they'll think
in terms of we can postpone
00:41:48.62\00:41:52.29
a car for a year
and make that payment
00:41:52.32\00:41:55.26
towards a project like this.
00:41:55.29\00:41:57.61
And it's an amazing thing.
It's not a bad appeal either.
00:41:57.64\00:42:01.69
That's right. It really isn't.
00:42:01.72\00:42:03.10
If you allow me to--
00:42:03.13\00:42:05.52
let me speak a little
bit about Bella Vista.
00:42:05.55\00:42:09.00
Probably, you heard already that
00:42:09.03\00:42:10.41
the Seventh-day
Adventist work start here
00:42:10.44\00:42:13.81
in Mayaguez back in 1901.
00:42:13.84\00:42:18.48
In 1940, there was a physician
00:42:18.51\00:42:21.22
by the name of
Dr. William Doscan.
00:42:21.25\00:42:24.10
He was a physician for
the largest sugarcane company
00:42:24.13\00:42:27.39
in the world that at that time
00:42:27.42\00:42:28.79
was in the
southern part of the island.
00:42:28.82\00:42:31.18
And a
businessman from this town,
00:42:31.21\00:42:34.72
he heard about the good
job that doctor was doing
00:42:34.75\00:42:38.12
and he visited him several times
00:42:38.15\00:42:40.10
and for years he
was telling Dr. Doscan,
00:42:40.13\00:42:42.57
"Please come to Mayaguez.
00:42:42.60\00:42:44.18
Please establish a
medical work in Mayaguez."
00:42:44.21\00:42:47.20
So Dr. Doscan came
to Mayaguez in 1940
00:42:47.23\00:42:51.62
after he retired
from the sugarcane company
00:42:51.65\00:42:54.32
as a physician over there
and he established the hospital.
00:42:54.35\00:42:58.45
He established the
school for the children
00:42:58.48\00:43:00.73
and then he
established also the church.
00:43:00.76\00:43:03.82
He was so
influential in this community,
00:43:03.85\00:43:06.59
that when there was a
political problem in Cuba,
00:43:06.62\00:43:10.59
he lobbied with a church
leader and the Antillean College
00:43:10.62\00:43:13.96
back then that was in Cuba
00:43:13.99\00:43:15.83
was moved to Mayaguez. Wow.
00:43:15.86\00:43:18.44
So we have that
legacy of Dr. Doscan
00:43:18.47\00:43:22.99
that planted the seed
in Mayaguez for the church
00:43:23.02\00:43:25.97
to grow that much and
we're just carrying on
00:43:26.00\00:43:29.16
the legacy that
he established here.
00:43:29.19\00:43:31.56
That's why you were
talking about the college,
00:43:31.59\00:43:33.84
you were talking
about the school,
00:43:33.87\00:43:35.24
you were talking about
the hospital, and this church.
00:43:35.27\00:43:37.77
So there is a story behind it.
00:43:37.80\00:43:39.40
Praise the
Lord. Praise the Lord.
00:43:39.43\00:43:41.07
Ultimately, as you
look down the road,
00:43:41.10\00:43:43.46
when your dream is up
and fulfilled and running,
00:43:43.49\00:43:45.91
what do you envision
this media center doing
00:43:45.94\00:43:48.28
at its hype when it
is fully functional?
00:43:48.31\00:43:51.47
Once the media
center is fully functional,
00:43:51.50\00:43:54.39
we ambition our church
people to work side by side,
00:43:54.42\00:43:58.62
all the church very
active in producing program
00:43:58.65\00:44:01.76
on a weekly
basis, and those program
00:44:01.79\00:44:04.31
being send out to
preach God's call.
00:44:04.34\00:44:10.07
And let me tell you something,
00:44:10.10\00:44:11.47
when we started this
media center, we put a vision.
00:44:11.50\00:44:16.27
It's time to open
the doors and our windows
00:44:16.30\00:44:18.55
from Bella Vista to the world.
00:44:18.58\00:44:20.83
And we've been doing that
00:44:20.86\00:44:22.23
this very night
in less than 2 years.
00:44:22.26\00:44:24.67
We never dreamed that
was gonna happen that soon,
00:44:24.70\00:44:27.65
that quick and it is happening.
00:44:27.68\00:44:30.25
And we praise the Lord
for that. Praise the Lord.
00:44:30.28\00:44:32.72
That is a miracle. It really is.
00:44:32.75\00:44:35.39
I would like to add something
here to what Nemuel is saying.
00:44:35.42\00:44:39.00
Nemuel has a vision.
He's a man of vision.
00:44:39.03\00:44:41.87
And that is all--vision is
what it takes for communications
00:44:41.90\00:44:47.08
and I am very pleased
that we are here together.
00:44:47.11\00:44:50.36
It's like a dream come true.
00:44:50.39\00:44:52.43
He told me once, "Someday
I would like 3ABN to come.
00:44:52.46\00:44:57.63
I would like to
invite Pastor Gilley.
00:44:57.66\00:44:59.59
I would like to invite
C.A. Murray, Danny Shelton,"
00:44:59.62\00:45:04.68
but we were looking at
this long term possibility
00:45:04.71\00:45:10.26
and now today we're all here.
00:45:10.29\00:45:12.47
So I know that it's
been a dream for you.
00:45:12.50\00:45:15.80
As we've been realizing this
series of the "Anchor of Truth"
00:45:15.83\00:45:21.04
this week on live, so
the committee members,
00:45:21.07\00:45:25.35
we've been talking, and
we have come to an agreement
00:45:25.38\00:45:27.62
when the Lord bless,
He bless abundantly. Yes.
00:45:27.65\00:45:31.20
So we were
planning to renew one by one
00:45:31.23\00:45:33.61
and He already
had done all at once.
00:45:33.64\00:45:38.28
We are glad to know
00:45:38.31\00:45:39.68
that we're a blessing
of the Lord. That's right.
00:45:39.71\00:45:41.08
Now, Nemuel, thank you so much.
00:45:41.11\00:45:42.48
We're gonna have to get you out
00:45:42.51\00:45:43.88
and get in your
second in command,
00:45:43.91\00:45:47.02
if I can call her that, because
we got a testimony to get in.
00:45:47.05\00:45:51.35
Our time is sort of
getting away from us.
00:45:51.38\00:45:53.24
And ere know it,
our time will be gone.
00:45:53.27\00:45:54.81
But we're gonna call
Ivette del Toro to come.
00:45:54.84\00:45:57.87
She is a producer
for the media center
00:45:57.90\00:46:00.43
and so glad to have you here
00:46:00.46\00:46:02.47
if you'll pick
up that microphone.
00:46:02.50\00:46:04.83
Now again, your background
is not in media. Is it?
00:46:04.86\00:46:09.82
No, my background is
not in communications.
00:46:09.85\00:46:13.28
You and your husband own
a business, I understand?
00:46:13.31\00:46:15.13
I studied administration
and with my husband,
00:46:23.55\00:46:27.17
we have a
business of in home care.
00:46:27.32\00:46:32.75
What is your function
with the media center?
00:46:32.78\00:46:34.53
What do you do
with the media center?
00:46:34.56\00:46:36.36
From the beginning
of the media center,
00:46:43.31\00:46:46.41
I've been helping them well
to establish the media center.
00:46:46.44\00:46:49.89
At that point, I was
the church treasurer. Okay.
00:46:54.09\00:46:57.21
So I was part of the
group who made analysis
00:47:07.47\00:47:10.38
of how much was
needed to start this project.
00:47:10.41\00:47:17.34
Nemuel tells us what
motivates and drives him.
00:47:17.37\00:47:21.01
Why do you-- this is
extra time, extra work,
00:47:21.05\00:47:23.85
what motivates you to do this?
00:47:23.88\00:47:25.34
What for me is interesting,
I was already acquainted
00:47:34.31\00:47:37.66
with the ministry of 3ABN.
00:47:37.69\00:47:39.36
You know, and the convention--
youth convention here
00:47:46.58\00:47:49.51
in Puerto Rico,
the 3ABN team came,
00:47:49.54\00:47:52.94
so they came to see the church.
00:47:52.97\00:47:54.66
And what interested
me is that the project
00:48:08.89\00:48:13.33
from the beginning
involved so many people
00:48:13.36\00:48:15.37
that could be
preaching the gospel
00:48:15.40\00:48:18.97
without having to really preach.
00:48:19.00\00:48:21.47
What impresses me is
how adults and young people
00:48:31.35\00:48:34.94
have been involved in
00:48:34.97\00:48:36.52
the development
of the media center.
00:48:36.55\00:48:40.30
We asked Nemuel and
before we let you go,
00:48:40.33\00:48:42.83
I want to ask you
the same question,
00:48:42.86\00:48:44.23
when you look at the--
down the road, the future,
00:48:44.26\00:48:47.25
what do you see
this media center
00:48:47.28\00:48:48.98
doing for the cause of Christ?
00:48:49.01\00:48:54.40
Very interesting question.
00:48:54.43\00:48:55.80
I would like to
see the media center
00:49:01.61\00:49:03.94
preaching about
the love of Jesus.
00:49:03.97\00:49:05.72
The love of Jesus is
reflected in my life.
00:49:22.27\00:49:25.77
If I love Jesus,
00:49:25.80\00:49:27.83
I have to share that
with others. That's right.
00:49:27.86\00:49:31.16
Praise the Lord. Amen.
00:49:31.19\00:49:33.03
And that's what this
is all about. Isn't it?
00:49:33.06\00:49:35.54
Talking about Jesus. Yeah.
00:49:35.57\00:49:37.70
And sharing Him.
00:49:37.73\00:49:39.10
You know, as we drive up here
00:49:39.13\00:49:40.54
and we sometimes take several
different routes to get here,
00:49:40.57\00:49:44.44
we find a lot of gated homes,
00:49:44.47\00:49:46.97
homes with fences
in front and gates
00:49:47.00\00:49:50.82
and there's no way
to get behind those
00:49:50.85\00:49:54.00
except through media,
because that is the way
00:49:54.03\00:49:57.41
you get through
the gates. Oh, yeah.
00:49:57.44\00:49:59.15
Get into the home
and not just once a week
00:49:59.18\00:50:03.04
but day after day after
day, you're there with a message
00:50:03.07\00:50:08.42
and I have become so convinced
that God is going to use media
00:50:08.45\00:50:14.85
even greater to finish
the work. Praise the Lord.
00:50:14.88\00:50:18.15
Working with the media center,
I had opportunity to visit
00:50:25.97\00:50:28.51
with people who have known
00:50:28.54\00:50:30.38
the gospel
through 3ABN ministry.
00:50:30.41\00:50:33.34
Amen. Praise God.
00:50:45.46\00:50:47.29
Recently, I went
to Dominican Republic
00:50:47.32\00:50:49.50
and a lady in the
church recognized me
00:50:49.53\00:50:51.79
and she told me how
her heart was transformed
00:50:51.82\00:50:55.54
by watching 3ABN and
knowing about Jesus. Praise God.
00:50:55.57\00:50:59.81
As you see here on 3ABN--
00:50:59.84\00:51:02.19
Praise the
Lord. Praise the Lord.
00:51:02.22\00:51:03.59
Ivette, we'll have to let you go
00:51:03.62\00:51:04.99
because our time
is slipping away.
00:51:05.02\00:51:06.39
We've got to make a
quick change and add a chair
00:51:06.42\00:51:07.94
because we want to
bring in our last two people
00:51:07.97\00:51:10.08
for our segment
before our time slips away.
00:51:10.11\00:51:12.22
Fernando
Gonzalez and Yanira Matos,
00:51:12.25\00:51:14.81
we want to bring
them in because this is--,
00:51:14.84\00:51:16.93
Jim, these are people
who actually came to the Lord
00:51:16.96\00:51:19.56
through the ministry
here out of this church
00:51:19.59\00:51:21.52
and we want to just talk to them
00:51:21.55\00:51:23.02
before our time
gets away from us.
00:51:23.05\00:51:24.42
Yes. Welcome.
00:51:24.45\00:51:27.12
It's a lovely husband
and wife team here. Yes.
00:51:27.15\00:51:29.27
Praise the Lord. And
this is why we do this.
00:51:29.30\00:51:32.71
Yeah, yeah. And
this is why we preach.
00:51:32.74\00:51:35.69
This is why we're on television.
00:51:35.72\00:51:37.43
Indeed, indeed.
00:51:37.46\00:51:39.32
You're gonna have to share
that microphone a little bit.
00:51:39.35\00:51:42.76
But my understanding
is, Fernando, you came first
00:51:42.79\00:51:46.27
to a Ten Commandments
weekend, is that so?
00:51:46.30\00:51:50.51
Yes, that's correct.
00:51:50.54\00:51:51.91
Everything
started because I work
00:51:57.98\00:52:00.26
in a security system,
home security systems.
00:52:00.29\00:52:03.14
And I was doing an installation
00:52:07.39\00:52:08.91
to one of the
brothers of the church.
00:52:08.94\00:52:11.10
So he had a flyer
showing that in this church
00:52:16.08\00:52:20.26
there's gonna be
a Ten Commandments
00:52:20.29\00:52:23.13
seminar taking place. Okay.
00:52:23.16\00:52:24.53
Now were you a religious guy?
00:52:24.56\00:52:25.93
Were you going to
church before this?
00:52:25.96\00:52:27.33
We were
congregating in another church
00:52:34.54\00:52:36.42
but we were not really
committed. I understand.
00:52:36.45\00:52:38.57
So the first time
that I came to church,
00:52:49.70\00:52:51.39
I wasn't very impressed
but my wife was impressed.
00:52:51.42\00:52:55.21
So we decided to
come and that day
00:53:04.15\00:53:06.48
when the series has started,
00:53:06.51\00:53:09.15
they gave us a little
flyer with the Ten Commandments.
00:53:09.18\00:53:12.62
So when I read this flyer,
00:53:19.34\00:53:21.09
I see the Ten Commandments
and read fourth commandment.
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And that commandment
was not in the commandments
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that I was familiar with.
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So what's going on?
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So his wife
knew-- has some knowledge
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about the Ten
Commandments and she said,
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"Yes, these are the
true Ten Commandments."
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So we decided to
continue as attending
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to the Ten Commandment
series that was being taped here
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and we decided to
stay in the church.
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Praise the Lord.
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So it was the
Sabbath commandment
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that sort of was the
spark that got your attention.
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Yes, that is correct.
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Now pass it to your wife.
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We need to hear from
her just a little bit.
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He says he was not too impressed
the first time, but you were.
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How were you impressed
with what was going on here?
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I had friends
that we used to go out
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and sometimes we
were out to the movies.
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And one day, one of my friends
said, "Let's go to church."
00:54:58.87\00:55:01.90
And I said, "Well, if we
are going to other places,
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why not go into
church?" And we came to church.
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So I got familiar a
little bit with Adventism.
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So I told my husband,
"If we ever go to a church,
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it has to be a Seventh-day
Adventist church." Amen.
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So when the opportunity
came, I told him, "Let's go.
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We have nothing
to lose. Let's go."
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What I never thought
or never crossed my mind
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that this was going to be
a big change in our lives.
00:55:53.27\00:55:57.97
But obviously it was. Yeah. Yes.
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Was it a struggle to make
the changes to become Adventist
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or was it sort
of a natural thing?
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It was a rather easy process.
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We didn't really have to
change a whole lot in our lives.
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Praise the Lord. Wow.
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Well, that's some story. It is.
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And an exciting
story and, you know,
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we can just see the
love of Jesus on your faces.
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And we know you love the Lord
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and that you're
standing by the word of God.
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Well, listen, this has been
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an exciting
night for me. It has.
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And, you know, C.A.,
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I repeat what I said
at the very beginning,
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I am so impressed
with the enthusiasm
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that the people
of Puerto Rico have
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for presenting the
gospel of Jesus Christ.
00:56:57.61\00:57:01.40
It occurred to me real
quick before our time goes out,
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I'm watching the
clock here. Yeah.
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Fernando is working
himself out of a job
00:57:04.34\00:57:05.87
because in heaven
we aren't gonna need
00:57:05.90\00:57:07.27
any home security
guys. No. That's right.
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'Cause there won't be
any lock on the doors.
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That's right. We
look forward to that--
00:57:11.50\00:57:13.82
Yes, we do.
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You know, we've had a
wonderful time tonight.
00:57:15.78\00:57:18.01
We hope that you
have been inspired
00:57:18.04\00:57:20.46
by how God's work
is moving forward.
00:57:20.49\00:57:23.58
We need you to
stand with us as you have
00:57:23.61\00:57:26.22
all these years and keep on
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keeping on with
Jesus Christ our Lord.
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