Participants: C.A. Murray (Host), Danny Shelton (Host), Jim Gilley (Host), Des Cummings, Dr. Afsoon Elmore D.D.S., Dr. Julie vanPutten, Kathy Moorman, Lilly Elmore, Lynell LaMountain, Mike McCauley, Peter Bath
Series Code: NLLA
Program Code: NLLA011501
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00:22 Welcome to Zephyrhills, Florida.
00:24 And it is great to be in beautiful 00:26 Florida tonight, isn't that right, Danny? 00:28 It's wonderful here and it's about 72 degrees this evening. 00:30 Yeah. I was standing outside 00:33 without a coat on just with my short sleeve 00:36 and just absolutely drinking it in. 00:39 And I just want to rub it in to all of those of you 00:41 back in Illinois and we're so happy. 00:46 You know, Danny, 00:47 one thing I've realized is you have to do planning. 00:52 When you're planning a schedule you don't plan to be in Chicago, 00:57 New York or Washington this time of the year. 01:01 And summer time you don't plan to be 01:03 down here necessarily either. 01:05 But we're just having a wonderful time. 01:08 The people here in Florida are so hospitable. 01:11 And they're so nice to us. 01:13 And the folks at Florida hospital 01:15 are doing a fabulous job. 01:17 We're gonna be talking about that tonight 01:19 and about the health message 01:21 that God has given to His people. 01:24 And I'm really looking forward to this program 01:27 because there's some tremendous stories 01:31 that are going to be told. 01:32 And you know, Danny, 01:34 in television 3ABN has a very balanced schedule, 01:40 very balanced program. 01:42 We've got preaching and good preaching 01:44 and straight preaching. 01:46 We have exercise programs 01:48 that help people be physically fit. 01:51 And we have cooking schools. We have nutrition programs. 01:56 And we have programs that try to help people to be healthier. 01:59 And tonight, we're gonna bring you 02:02 a special program called "A Healthy Hundred." 02:06 We need to say a very special hello to a friend of ours. 02:10 You talked about Chicago a moment ago. 02:12 Our buddy John Lomacang is stuck 02:14 under 2 feet of snow-- Yes. 02:15 In Chicago and we wanna say hi to you, John, 02:18 but this is a very, very special "Nightlight." 02:20 It is. You know and I wanted to say this. 02:22 You know, when you look at the Adventist 02:24 system of beliefs-- Yeah. 02:25 They were those who said that well, 02:27 the Lord just gave us these beliefs. 02:29 But the truth is men and women went to the scriptures 02:32 and searched and found the beliefs. 02:34 But there are two things that came directly 02:37 from the hand of God, through vision to Ellen White. 02:39 One was the publishing work. That's right. 02:41 Growing and moved around the world. 02:43 The other was the health ministry. 02:48 We operate one of the largest 02:50 health hospital systems in the world. 02:53 And it has been a blessing 02:55 not only to Seventh-day Adventist as we'll see tonight 02:57 but to the community at large. 02:58 This ministry has helped untold millions inside the church 03:03 and outside of the church. 03:04 Everybody we have touched has been helped 03:06 with this health message 03:08 which is really a health ministry. 03:09 It really is. It gives a great advantage 03:13 and I think Ellen White made a statement similar to this. 03:15 The health message is as a right arm is to the body. 03:18 And I understand that because a few years ago--of course, 03:22 we're always trying to get on new cable systems-- 03:23 we went to one of the largest cable companies 03:26 in America in New York city. 03:28 And the people there-- vice president of marketing said 03:32 we wanna watch the programming. 03:34 So for several weeks before we came, 03:35 Moses and I went to this large cable company. 03:39 They began to watch. Some of their employees began to watch. 03:42 And she said, "3ABN is the best kept secret in television." 03:46 And I said, "Why is that?" 03:48 She said, "You need to be on every cable station in America. 03:50 And I said, "Why?" 03:52 She said, "Because of your health message." 03:54 She said, "Because people will watch you." 03:56 We--all of these other-- many of these other networks, 03:59 the Christian networks, she says, 04:01 are all about what you're doing and how happy they are now. 04:05 And you're gonna go to heaven but 3ABN-- 04:07 she said atheist wanna watch it 04:09 because they care about their health. 04:11 She says, "Muslims will watch it, 04:12 the Jews will watch it, 04:14 Catholics will watch it because every one is interested 04:17 and you guys are so balanced." 04:18 And I remember that and I praise the Lord. 04:21 And I thought then this is opening doors 04:24 to get 3ABN on cable systems. 04:26 And you know, tonight we are going to meet people 04:28 from all faiths and all walks of life 04:32 who have been touched by this health message. 04:36 And to me that's a wonderful thing because we, you know, 04:40 people are at different stages in different places in life. 04:45 And--but we all need to have a greater measure of health. 04:51 I--this healthy hundred is such a tremendous thing. 04:55 My wife's parents are 96 and 95 respectively. 04:59 They've had tremendous health all of these years 05:02 and I really believe that if you can be healthier longer, 05:07 you know, you might live to be a hundred but you might spend 05:10 the last ten years in a nursing home on a bed. 05:13 You don't want that. 05:15 I was in a place one Sunday morning buying gasoline 05:19 and somebody who was running by and jogging. 05:24 And I said to the person as I was paying for my gas, 05:26 I said, "That's what I ought to be doing." 05:28 And they said, "Why?" And I said, "You'd live longer." 05:30 And they said, "No, you just die healthier." 05:33 And-- but you know something? 05:34 There's something good about dying healthier. 05:37 So you don't have those years of lying there like a vegetable 05:41 but you have active, good, healthy years right up until 05:46 it's time to go to sleep and wait for the resurrection. 05:50 Praise the Lord. Well, tonight, Jim, 05:51 as we all know we get to shine the spotlight 05:53 in our "Nightlight" series on one of the, dare we say, 05:57 flagship institutions of the Adventist health systems 06:00 that is Florida hospital. 06:01 We get to learn about the scope of the hospital, 06:03 the extent of the hospital, 06:05 the work and reach of the hospital 06:07 and the thousands, thousands 06:09 and thousands of lives that it is touching. 06:12 And I am excited because I know it's gonna be a good program. 06:14 We're gonna hear a lot of good stories this night. 06:16 Yes, we really are. 06:17 And I believe that I am correct this 06:19 that the Florida hospital system 06:21 is the largest of the Adventist health systems. 06:24 And it has gotten even larger lately 06:28 with the inclusion of a few more hospitals 06:32 here in this very community in the Tampa Florida area. 06:36 And so we're gonna hear about those a little later on. 06:40 But right now, I want to introduce 06:43 to you Dr. Desmond Cummings. 06:46 And Dr. Cummings is head of Creation Health 06:50 and he is the president of the Florida hospital foundation 06:55 and he is the vice president of Adventist health systems. 06:58 And, Des, we're just happy to have you with us tonight. 07:02 And I know you've brought some guests 07:04 because we have met some of them already. 07:07 Welcome, Jim, to Florida. 07:09 On behalf of the Adventist health systems 07:10 welcome to "A Healthy Hundred." 07:12 We want you to imagine that for your life 07:14 and it sounds like your in-laws are already ahead of you. 07:17 They really are and they always stay ahead of me. 07:21 At 96--one of the things we looked at, Jim, 07:24 was the fact that America is in a health crisis. 07:27 And we need the healthcare reform throughout the nation 07:30 and lot of that is going to be around legislation. 07:32 But the most important thing 07:33 we can do is help people live healthier. 07:35 And the way that we think 07:37 that will help them live healthier is to realize 07:39 there's an opportunity to add at least 11 more years to your life 07:43 if you follow what we're gonna share tonight. 07:45 So we invite them to imagine a healthy hundred. 07:47 The reason for that is because in 2005, 07:52 there was an alert sounded by 07:54 the National Institutes of Health. 07:55 They said that a child born in 2005 would live five years less 08:00 than the life expectancy at that time. 08:02 Life expectancy 2005, life expectancy 08:05 for all of us is 78 years, for the average American. 08:09 Life expectancy for those children 08:10 was projected by the N.I.H. to be 73 years. 08:14 I cannot imagine any parent in America sitting down 08:17 with their children and saying, 08:18 "You're gonna live shorter than I did. 08:20 You're gonna have more disease than I did." 08:22 We have taken great satisfaction in sitting down 08:24 with our children and saying, "You're gonna live longer. 08:27 You're gonna live better 08:28 because we've done our best to leave you a better future." 08:30 And I think that's what Americans want to say. 08:32 So instead of accepting a 73 as the destination, 08:37 we believe it's time to imagine a healthy hundred. 08:39 If you're running for any office I'll vote for you. 08:42 I like what I'm hearing. 08:44 Well, as matter of fact, I'm not running for office 08:46 but I'm running for this 08:48 and that is the hope of a different kind of health reform. 08:51 Because you see the Adventist Health System was born in 1866 08:55 in the midst of this nation's need for health reform. 08:58 In fact, our very first institution was called 09:01 the Western Health Reform Institute 09:03 because we needed a health reform. 09:05 We led America in health reform in two significant areas. 09:08 One was smoking cessation because we never 09:12 believed in any kind of use of smoking. 09:14 Now that was just against the tradition of the day. 09:17 If you went to the doctors of the day 09:19 and you had a cough the most common prescription was-- 09:22 when you begin coughing, smoke two cigarettes immediately. 09:25 So you can imagine how ridiculous that was. 09:28 We said no because we took a different approach. 09:30 We looked and took our message from creation health. 09:34 The whole story of creation-- 09:35 I believed that the visions of Ellen White 09:38 and the ideas of her husband James 09:40 could be traced to the roots of the biblical story of creation. 09:44 And so what we're saying to people in America 09:46 today is you know what? 09:48 We can either create health reform 09:51 by refusing to get people care. 09:53 That's called rationing. 09:54 Or we can create health reform 09:56 by improving the health of people 09:57 and not needing as much care. 09:59 And we think the future is improving. 10:02 And reason we're excited about that is because you see 10:05 Adventists have been recognized 10:07 as being able to live 11 years longer. 10:10 In fact, U.S. news in world report said, 10:12 "If you want to live to 100, 10:14 live like a Seventh-day Adventist. 10:16 That's right. This has been recognized 10:18 not only with U.S. news and world report. 10:20 National Geographic, ABC news, Oprah, Doctor Oz, 10:25 they are all recognizing 10:26 the advantage of the Adventist health message. 10:29 Well, right now we want you to look at a one minute video. 11:17 Imagine living a healthy 100 years 11:21 by creating a new era of wellness 11:24 and medical innovation. 11:25 Florida hospital can help make it happen. 11:28 What do you want to do when you're 100? 11:32 Visit healthy100.org. 11:37 Well, Des, we've come a long way 11:39 since the days when Adventists pioneer 11:41 Jay and Love Brooke got paid for a summer's work 11:44 with a bottle of liquor and a ham. 11:48 The Lord has taught us some things about health. 11:51 We've got some laws of health. 11:52 Some principles of health and they start with a 'c'. 11:55 Why don't you walk us through that and introduce your guests? 11:57 Absolutely. Thank you, C.A. 11:59 As a matter of fact, the laws of health 12:01 that we've taken our eight principles of health 12:03 from the Seven Days of Creation. 12:05 As we studied the creation story we found these eight principles 12:09 really comprised the Adventist health message. 12:12 We've been practicing these principles and teaching them. 12:15 They actually spelled the word creation. 12:18 The 'c'--each one of the letters of this series of principles 12:22 stands for some significant portion of the creation story. 12:25 The first one is choice and choice is a powerful story. 12:29 Right here before me are folks that are living it today 12:33 because you see I am introducing 12:35 you to Kathy Moorman and Peter Bath. 12:38 Kathy now lives and works in Tampa 12:42 in the university community hospital. 12:44 And the Adventist Health System has been invited to be a partner 12:47 with the university community hospital. 12:49 And we've just joined with you to operate that hospital. 12:53 Peter is coming there 12:54 as the vice president for Mission and Ministry. 12:57 Now, Peter, you're introducing people 12:59 to the Adventist perspective and they're making choices. 13:02 But the first choice this community made 13:04 was they wanted Adventist to be there 13:06 because they like the whole idea of our 13:08 whole personal care and our wellness ideas. 13:12 Am I right about that, Kathy? Yes, you are. 13:15 In fact, Peter started his weekly Lunch and Learns 13:20 right after--I think it was in October 13:22 and he did a couple of in services 13:24 on the history of the Adventist 13:26 and then he started talking about Creation Health. 13:28 And the first chapter was choice. 13:30 The second one was rest. 13:32 And we came and we listened, then we went and we read. 13:36 And I've adopted it. 13:39 So, Peter, you've been doing these Lunch and Learns. 13:42 Kathy came to him. She got the book. 13:44 She started reading it. And, as she just said, she adopted it. 13:46 Tell me about the Lunch and Learns 13:48 and the reaction you've had among folks 13:50 who have attended them. 13:51 Well, on September 1 of last year 13:53 we walked in as new partners 13:55 with the five hospitals of University Community Health. 13:58 And so often is the case--just like 3ABN is the one of the best 14:02 kept secrets and so is the Adventist health message 14:04 and who are Adventists and so these Lunch and Learns-- 14:07 Did you know who Adventists were before this? 14:09 I googled. You googled. 14:12 So you found out on Google. 14:14 So, Peter, you had an education process 14:16 to just introduce people-- To the whole idea. 14:18 Absolutely, Des. 14:19 To look at our history, to look at our belief, 14:21 to look at our theology, 14:22 to look at our Christ centered focus 14:24 and the intentional application 14:25 of biblical principles to how we live. 14:28 And it's met with a wonderful context of faith. 14:31 Now you chose Creation Health 14:32 as one of the means to make peopleaware of that. Why? 14:35 Well, because Creation Health is such a practical process I mean, 14:38 it gets down to the fundamental points of taking 14:41 biblical teaching, just like we change our oil in the car 14:44 because the manufacturer tells us to do it every 3000 miles. 14:47 God's given us the same instruction 14:49 and following that has been a great-- 14:51 Creation Health is a wonderful way. 14:53 Now Kathy took the book I distributed in November 14:56 and we talked about it. 14:57 And Kathy then took this book and started reading it. 15:00 And what happened to you over the holidays? 15:03 Well, I read the book and I adopted-- 15:06 well, I focused on three things. 15:08 Nutrition, rest, and interpersonal relationships. 15:11 And so first I started on eating out there. 15:14 And then getting a good night sleep 15:16 which was very hard for me 15:17 because I had not been doing that. 15:19 And then over the holidays I said, 15:21 "I'm gonna focus on my family and my relationships. 15:23 I got rid of all of the extraneous stuff 15:26 and it was a wonderful, peaceful, loving experience. 15:29 So you really had a Creation Health Christmas? I did. 15:32 Kathy is the director of Pharmacy Services 15:34 which is an incredibly complex job. 15:36 And she is handing out medicine to sick people. 15:39 And she's saying, "Hey, here's a way we can stay well." 15:42 Now not only that, you're a scientist. 15:44 So you take a look inside the book 15:46 and try to tear it apart from the science standpoint. 15:48 What did you find? 15:49 I found that it was a very soundly 15:52 based especially the rest and nutrition. 15:55 And really studied the nutrition part 15:57 because that's what I needed the most help with. 15:59 And when I read it and I studied and I looked at the whole 16:04 balance of groceries--your groceries, your drugstore, 16:08 eating organic, eating fruits and vegetables, 16:11 it's made a tremendous difference. 16:12 I have a lot more energy and I rest better at night. 16:16 You are telling me that you also have some folks 16:17 that you've helped regain their health 16:19 because you're actually counseling them. 16:21 They're asking you what to do. 16:22 Yeah, well, I have a friend at work who's chronically got cold. 16:27 Cold--and I talked to her about the nutrition 16:29 and I gave her some references. 16:32 And she took it and she actually went to the drugstore-- 16:34 the health food store to get 16:35 some of the stuff that I recommended. 16:37 So you started out with us as a business partner, 16:41 moved to a mission partner. 16:42 And now you see this as a lifestyle partner. 16:46 I really think this is the best thing 16:47 we could do for the healthcare 16:48 'cause we're not just treating sick people. 16:50 We're treating the whole person. 16:52 And that is the unique difference 16:54 of the Adventist health system. 16:55 And that's why Kathy made that choice. 16:57 Kathy, the question I wanted to ask you. 16:59 Were these changes dramatic or traumatic 17:02 for you to institute these changes? 17:04 And were the results immediate? 17:06 Was it something that came over a long period of time 17:08 or could you see the results right away? 17:10 Uh, some of the results I saw right away. 17:12 The sleeping-- getting--making-- 17:14 forcing myself to go to bed at a reasonable hour. 17:18 The nutrition took a little bit longer. 17:20 It was little bit harder to adopt. 17:22 The quiet environment has been tremendous 17:25 as far as reducing the stress and the anxiety of my life. 17:28 And when you said quiet environment 17:29 you're saying you adopted a personal quiet time, 17:32 a personal devotional life? 17:33 Yes. Yes. 17:35 What a blessing to be able to not only deal with the mind, 17:37 the body, and the spirit and you told me you thought 17:39 that was big difference in the Adventist healthcare philosophy. 17:44 So, Kathy, it's great to have you with us. 17:45 Thank you for choosing to be a lifestyle partner, 17:48 a mission partner and a business partner. 17:50 May God bless you as you continue to advance your life. 17:53 Peter, may God bless you as you share this message. 17:55 Absolutely, it's a blessing. Thank you. 17:57 And now-- I guess we're gonna take a little walk. 17:59 Absolutely. One of the things, C.A., 18:02 that I think is so vital for people is to really 18:04 understand the depth, a purpose and meaning. 18:08 And I have a friend Dr. Julie vanPutten. 18:12 I'd like to introduce you to her. 18:14 I gonna put you on-- in the middle there. 18:15 Julie, welcome. Hello. 18:17 Dr. vanPutten, would you meet C.A.? 18:20 And as a matter of fact, Dr. vanPutten is 18:22 the chief wellness officer or the Florida Hospital 18:25 Institute of Lifestyle Medicine. 18:28 And she has one question she asks folks 18:30 when they come to their-- as a matter of fact, 18:33 when we start our physical it's a very unusual question. 18:35 I didn't anticipate this question 18:37 but you ask them a question about their biggest choice. 18:40 And one of those questions is, 18:43 do you really want to live a long and healthy life? 18:49 Yeah, I can answer that one. That's easy. 18:52 Okay, what's the next one? 18:53 And so the question that follows that is based on your choices 18:59 do you expect to live a long, healthy life? 19:02 Good question. Well, not again. 19:05 Can you pass on any of these? 19:06 No, this is not a pass but then the most 19:09 compelling question is what is the reason? 19:12 What is the compelling reason that you would want 19:15 to live a long and healthy life? 19:17 What is the reason to want to live? 19:21 I think that, you know, 19:22 that's really the core of the way life is driven. 19:24 Because many more of these 19:28 scientific journals are showing that the purpose in life 19:31 and the willingness to pursue life is 19:33 what causes people to be able to fight through disease, 19:36 to be able to choose to live longer and more effectively. 19:40 Absolutely, we know that the reason, 19:43 the reason that someone has within themselves 19:46 really gives us the indication of what is your plan to be here. 19:50 We often have plans for our bank accounts 19:52 and for buying that house 19:54 and for looking at our children graduate 19:57 but when you look at your plan, 19:58 your daily plan for your life does it reflect truly 20:01 at its heart that you have a plan to say 20:04 that at my next ten, at the next tenth birthday-- 20:08 for many of us that's thirty, right? 20:10 Or 40 or whatever that is. 20:13 Do you see that in your body you can be stronger, 20:16 you can be more alive, you can feel like 20:20 you're living according to the purpose that God put you here? 20:23 That's a wonderful question for a doctor to be asking, 20:25 don't you think? Very much so. 20:27 As a matter of fact, when you talk about a plan-- 20:30 when you have actually have the exit interview-- 20:32 Yes. Because you had it with me. Yes. 20:35 You actually ask folks to do something about a plan. 20:38 Explain that. When we look at the plan 20:40 we know that if you were to look backward at your life 20:44 and we would ask you what would be three life lessons. 20:47 That if someone where writing your story 20:49 and actually does with the choices that 20:52 we make everyday, we write our story. 20:55 Powerful, yes. Everyday we're telling a story about 20:57 what we believe is possible. 20:59 And we say if you're gonna write a story write an epic story. 21:03 Make it a wonderful story because the way 21:06 we live our lives is as a result of the stories 21:09 we believe about our lives. 21:11 And so in our exit interview with our clients, 21:14 with many of these corporate executives 21:16 who have very high pressured lives, 21:19 we say, "what are the life lessons 21:21 that you would want your life to tell a story about?" 21:24 And when you know what those life lessons are, 21:26 if you're very clear about that then 21:29 what do you see a year from now? 21:32 And if you can have a vision of your life a year from now, 21:36 a year from now in which you're stronger and healthier 21:38 and more vital, when you look at 21:41 the risk factors that you are doing to yourself. 21:43 Nobody else is doing these to you. 21:45 By what you're choosing to do 21:46 or by what you're not choosing to do. 21:49 In the next 21 days if I were to ask you to do 21:52 something different, something that you've never done before, 21:56 in the next 21 days can you put together a plan for your life 22:01 that says you have a story that's says I wanna live? 22:05 So you see what a powerful thing happens. 22:07 The privilege that we have and Dr. vanPutten has. 22:11 We see over 500 top corporate executives of the Fortune 500. 22:17 Fortune 500 executives, 500 that have come to our place 22:21 and the Lord has given us an opportunity 22:23 to ask these kinds of questions. 22:24 Aren't you thankful that a Christian doctor is sitting 22:27 with these leaders asking these kinds of questions 22:29 about how choice is being made in their life? 22:33 And my question for you is how would you answer Dr. vanPutten? 22:38 Well, there is a big, big song 22:40 about a great big God and how great he is. 22:44 C.A., that's one of the first choices we make. 22:47 Amen. It truly is. 22:48 Jennifer LaMountain comes now to sing for us. 22:51 One of the best choices we can make is to choose God 22:54 and put him front and center in our lives. 22:57 Thank you, Jennifer. 23:28 Though man may try to go 23:33 Beyond the reach of space 23:39 To crawl beyond the distant 23:45 Glimmering stars 23:50 This world's a room so small 23:56 Within my Master's house 24:01 The open sky 24:05 It's but a portion of His yard 24:13 The winter's chill 24:17 May cause the tiny seed to fall 24:24 To lie asleep till 24:29 Waked by summer's rain 24:36 The heart grown cold will warm 24:41 And throb with life anew 24:46 The Master's touch 24:51 will bring the glow again 24:57 How big is God 25:02 How big and wide His vast domain 25:09 To try to tell 25:14 these lips can only start 25:21 He's big enough to rule 25:26 His mighty universe 25:32 Yet small enough 25:36 to live within my heart 25:43 How big is God 25:49 How big is God 25:54 How big is God 26:11 How great thou art 26:17 How great thou art 26:23 Then sings my soul 26:28 My Savior God to thee 26:34 How great thou art 26:41 How great thou art 26:51 Great is thy faithfulness 26:57 How great thou art 27:03 How great thou art 27:27 Thank you so much, Jennifer. What a blessing. 27:29 And now this is not only Jennifer's talent 27:33 but her husband Lynell is our 27:35 senior manager of our outreach to churches 27:38 and in particular specializing 27:40 in Seventh-day Adventist churches. 27:41 You are a dynamic power couple teamed up to make 27:45 this Creation Health message come to life in churches 27:48 but the second letter of the acronym, 27:50 if you look at the creation story it begins with choice. 27:54 Two trees in the middle of the garden, 27:57 we have to make our choice. 27:58 God gave us the freedom of choices. 28:00 It's a wonderful power that he imputes us with. 28:03 Making that choice day by day is critical. 28:05 As a matter of fact, some people say, 28:08 "Choice doesn't matter. Your genes are what matters." 28:11 Recent researches showing that up to 75% and some say 90%-- 28:15 in fact, Dan Buettner, the author of the "Blue Zone" 28:18 says 90% of your health is depended upon your daily choice. 28:22 So, my friends, God gave us choice 28:25 because he wants us to exercise it. 28:26 And by exercising it you can achieve great things. 28:30 And one of those choices is rest. 28:33 And, Lynell, you have a story about how people can get, 28:36 kind of, completely used up just doing good, even pastors. 28:41 And it's changed somebody's life. 28:43 One of my friends is a conference administrator 28:45 as well as an associated pastor of his local church. 28:47 A very large church, in fact but it's hard to believe 28:49 you can be Conference Administrator 28:51 and an Associate Pastor. 28:52 And the story I'm finding is, kind of, typical as I work 28:54 with many administrators and pastors. 28:57 He was at a meeting where I recently shared 28:59 Creation Health's presentation on rest. 29:02 And, in particular, during that presentation 29:04 I shared some research most people don't know. 29:06 It's from Wingard and Berkman 29:08 and their mortality risk associated 29:10 with sleeping patterns among adults. 29:12 And what I shared was if you sleep fewer than 29:15 six hours a night or more than nine hours a night 29:18 you cut your lifespan by nine years. 29:20 Well, when the presentation was finished this administrator 29:23 wanted to go for a walk with me. 29:25 And he was very quiet and very reflective. 29:28 And he said, "You know," 29:29 he said, "I get to bed at 2 in the morning and I'm up at 6 29:32 because of all my church related responsibilities." 29:35 And he said, "My kids deserve better from their dad." 29:37 And he said, "I don't want to miss out 29:39 on nine years of life with them." 29:41 So on that day he committed to me 29:43 that he was going to build into his life a lifestyle of balance. 29:46 So he'd get the rest that he needed and deserved 29:48 so he can live life to the fullest with this family. 29:51 God bless you as you work with these ministers 29:53 and these churches and thank you for that insight and that story. 29:55 Thank you, Des. So thanks so much, Lynell. 29:57 And now I want to introduce you to a doctor and her daughter. 30:02 Dr. Elmore and her daughter Lilly 30:04 have actually experienced some of this, C.A. 30:07 Their story is all about the issue of rest. 30:11 I--I'm listening with bated breath. 30:13 When I was pastoring, I pastored a church of 2000 members 30:16 and communication at Sabbath school, 30:18 director for the conference. 30:20 So I'm spleey and I don't think I'll ever catch up again. 30:22 Hope I--the Lord is kind to me and gives me some extra years. 30:25 As a matter of fact, Dr. Elmore is really-- 30:28 you were at a point of exhaustion in your life 30:31 when Creation health came in. 30:32 But I don't want to start there. 30:34 I want to start back, roll the picture back to 2002. 30:37 You're living in Nashville, Tennessee. 30:39 What is your work there and what is your practice? 30:41 I'm practicing cosmetic dentistry. 30:44 You're practicing cosmetic dentistry. That's true. 30:46 That's for the more affluent people? Yes, sir. 30:48 And they are paying cash? Yes. 30:50 And so this is a very good business 30:52 to be in, right? Yes, sir. 30:53 And then suddenly it happens-- something happens in your life. 30:56 And you give birth to what? 30:59 I have a son that has been diagnosed with autism. 31:02 So baby boy-- Baby boy. 31:04 Diagnosed with autism. Yes, sir. 31:06 And this starts to completely change you. 31:09 So you begin to do what? 31:13 Just really looking for places where he can grow and develop. 31:16 And his needs were just not being met in Nashville 31:20 so I was looking all around the country 31:22 trying to find a place where he could have a good education. 31:25 And you found a place. And where was it? 31:27 In Jacksonville, Florida at the Jericho school. 31:29 Jericho school in Jacksonville, Florida. 31:32 But it would require you to move. 31:33 So what did you decide to do? 31:35 I thought none of this is going to matter 31:37 if my child can't be with me and can't be here to enjoy with me. 31:40 So we left everything and we moved to Florida. 31:42 Now, Lilly, you moved to Florida 31:44 for the sake of your little brother. 31:46 But that took a lot of things out of your life, too. 31:49 How did you make the move? 31:50 Well, I realized it was the best for him 31:52 and I love my brother so much and I would anything for him. 31:55 I'd, of course, pick up and leave which is what we did. 31:58 And I would do it anytime, you know. 32:00 So that was a great step of faith on both of your parts. 32:03 Now you're a single mom 32:04 and so you had to go there and you need to work. 32:07 But you cannot work 32:09 because your license won't transfer from Tennessee 32:11 and Florida is not an easy place 32:13 to get a dental license in oral surgery. 32:15 So you have a different work engagement now. 32:20 Describe what that is. 32:21 I started working for the Florida health departments. 32:23 And when I got there I realized, 32:25 oh, my goodness, all these children have such great needs 32:28 and especially the children with the disabilities 32:30 have no access to care. 32:32 So they have no access to care to speak up? 32:34 In Florida today at Shands hospital, 32:36 you were telling me what the waiting list 32:38 is for children with dental needs 32:41 that are on Medicaid that can't pay. 32:42 What is it? And have disabilities. 32:44 One of the moms I treated last week 32:46 at Florida hospital told me, there are over 32:48 a thousand children on the waiting list. 32:50 And they are told it would be over a year before 32:52 they are given an appointment 32:53 just for a consultation not for treatment, 32:55 just for a consultation. 32:57 A thousand children, that's huge need. 32:58 So you decided to change your practice? Yes, sir. 33:01 That decision took you to Florida hospital. 33:04 For we're --because you went to hospitals. 33:07 Nobody wanted to do it. 33:08 Nobody wanted to do it because, 33:10 C.A., this is not a money making business. 33:13 No, I think not. 33:14 It's not. People can't pay. 33:16 The government pays very poorly for these children. 33:20 And so you come to Florida hospital. 33:22 But now your background is not of a Christian faith. 33:25 So you come without a Christian faith background. 33:28 But you suddenly realize there's something happening there 33:31 because as you approached the director of surgery, 33:34 he tells you something because you describe the problem. 33:38 You know it's not making money. 33:39 You know that the surgery should actually, 33:41 probably, be stopped at the hospital. 33:43 But he says to you something different. What does he say? 33:45 He said, "Let the little children come unto me. 33:48 And do not turn them away." 33:50 So he said "I can't forget them. , suffer little children." 33:54 He actually quoted Jesus' statement. 33:57 Now that impressed you because you were walking by the chapel 33:59 on your way to surgery one day. 34:01 And as you're walking by that chapel on your way to surgery 34:04 you heard them singing, they invited you in. 34:06 And the pastor said something that really struck you. 34:09 Yes, his message that day and it's a group of engineers 34:13 that have a Friday morning prayer service. 34:15 And it was before my surgery time and I was just walking by. 34:18 I heard this beautiful singing in there. 34:20 And I stopped in and they said, 34:22 "Will you come and worship with us?" 34:23 And I said, "Sure." And the message that day was-- 34:29 I can't quote this as well as you did but-- 34:31 It's basically here Jesus is talking to the people 34:34 who went and saw the-- saw the--those imprisoned. 34:37 He said, "Because you went to see the least of these." 34:41 "When you do unto the least of these, you have done unto me." 34:46 And I thought this is such an amazing place. 34:49 People from the engineering department, 34:51 people from the director of surgery, 34:53 all have the same mission. 34:54 They're all on board with the same mission of helping. 34:57 Now, Lilly, your mother has made this a huge mission. 35:00 How many of these children has she done surgery on this year? 35:04 I think 380. 35:05 That's 380 but that's just a part of this year. 35:08 Last year, you did over what? 863. 35:11 863, so you are on a record pace 35:14 with you and your partner to try to care for these children. 35:18 But now you can get weary doing good. 35:21 And you're almost exhausted and it was 5:30 one morning. 35:24 You're driving into the physician's parking lot. 35:27 You are in a line and you are so tired. 35:29 You had leaned your head back on your head rest. 35:32 And what happens? 35:33 And I said, "God, I'm so tired." 35:35 And I opened my eyes and as I opened my eyes 35:37 I see the word "choice and rest." 35:39 I looked down and it says Des Cummings in it. 35:42 Went upstairs to the surgery department. 35:44 I called the Florida hospital foundation. 35:46 I said did Des Cummings write a book? 35:48 They said, "Yes." I said, "Well, can you send me a copy?" 35:53 So I had six copies sent to my house. 35:56 And the particular part of the book 35:59 that you really focused on was this rest part. 36:02 Now, Lilly, it started to affect you as well 36:04 because you all 36:05 decided not only were you going to chapel on Friday 36:08 but you followed that pastor on over to church on Sabbath. 36:12 Tell me about that, going to church on Sabbath. 36:14 Well, I loved the church because we got a hospital church 36:17 which is affiliated with Florida hospital 36:19 and the church is amazing. 36:21 Like, I've got involved. I taught a class. 36:24 It was really -- it's a really great church. 36:26 So here you go over to the church. 36:28 You begin to study 36:30 and even though you weren't 36:31 raised in a Christian background, 36:33 he suddenly just connected with you. 36:35 And one year ago, what happened in your life? 36:37 We joined the Florida hospital church. 36:39 You joined the Florida-- 36:41 so both of you are now members of the Florida hospital church. 36:43 And that whole experience has been 36:46 encapsulating the creation health into your life. 36:49 You're telling me that creation health 36:51 is not just the principle of rest. 36:53 It's the whole idea of being at peace with God. 36:57 And now your life is completely embedded in His life 37:01 and creation health has become your story. 37:04 Now, Lilly, you had an incident that's changed your life, too. 37:09 And you not only have joined the church 37:11 but you had a point in which your brother had an accident. 37:14 You were home taking care of him alone. 37:16 He had an accident. Tell us about that. 37:17 Well, my brother got in a shoulder accident 37:19 and he fractured his shoulder. 37:21 And it was the scariest thing ever. 37:23 And so my mom calls me and she's like what do we do? 37:25 Where do we take him? I'm like, this is pretty bad. 37:27 We need to go to the E.R. 37:29 So we go to the emergency room, I'm all by myself. 37:31 I'm taking care of my autistic brother. 37:34 And so it comes to the point we have to go in 37:36 and I told them--I said, 37:37 "I have my autistic brother. He just broke his shoulder." 37:40 So immediately they brought some people. 37:43 He wouldn't go in the back 37:44 'cause he's really scared, it is a scary thing. 37:47 And so they bring people from child life 37:49 which is like nurses that are trained to work 37:51 with these types of kids 37:52 and help them get acquainted with the hospital. 37:55 And he's fine. He gets back there and they care of him. 37:59 And it's amazing 38:01 how caring they are with all their patients. 38:03 And at this moment, at this moment, 38:05 you have not made a career choice yet. 38:08 So what happens to you about it at that moment? 38:10 Well, I knew I wanted to be in the medical field. 38:12 And I have decided I want to be a dentist 38:15 or a hospital administrator. 38:17 Hospital administrator. I can recommend to you, 38:19 dentist, your mother will have to talk to you about that one. 38:21 But hospital administrator, yes. 38:23 Now you have a plan and you've decided 38:27 that you are going to go to a certain university. 38:29 Tell me what university? 38:30 I would like to go Southern Adventist University. 38:33 So God bless you as you as a family progress in your journey 38:38 towards the wonderful things that God can bring 38:40 through His Sabbath rest. 38:42 Just before they leave 38:44 and I would run a bit longer than the segment 38:45 but I wanted to congratulate you. 38:46 First on joining the remnant family of God. 38:50 But God gave you a gift several years ago of an autistic child. 38:53 Some people may see that as a burden 38:55 but to you it was a gift. 38:56 And then He moved you along 38:58 from faith to faith and grace to grace. 39:01 And now you may not be making the money you made before 39:03 but you're making friends on earth and in heaven. 39:06 And you can't count that in gold and silver. 39:07 And I've got to tell you that she donated to the establishment 39:12 of our surgery center for children, our new one. 39:14 Made a major donation and naming-- 39:17 and named it in honor of the-- of the director of surgery. 39:21 And tell them what you put on the plaque. 39:23 "Let the little children come unto me." 39:25 "Let the little children come unto me" 39:27 and you've passed this on to your daughter. 39:28 So tell me about your daughter. 39:30 Well, she can tell you the story. 39:32 After her brother got hurt she was so impressed 39:34 with the care that he received at the hospital. 39:36 Go ahead, Lilly. 39:37 I had a seventeenth birthday, a year ago. 39:41 And I instead of asking for gifts, 39:44 I asked my friends to bring money 39:45 for the children's hospital. 39:47 And so over $600 was donated on your behalf. 39:50 This is gonna be a practice every year for her. 39:52 She is doing it again this year. 39:54 God bless you for investing your life, your treasure, 39:58 your talent and God's greatest gifts 40:00 that He has given you back into His kingdom. 40:03 Because I believe it will have eternal impact. 40:05 Because I believe Sabbath was a day God made for love. 40:09 In six days God created life. 40:11 On the seventh day God created love. 40:13 We are so thankful that that love 40:15 is expressed in your heart day by day. 40:17 And now we go to Jim 40:19 because he has one of the-- 40:21 the officers of Florida conference. 40:24 The president who has a vision for healthy 100 churches 40:27 because this story that you just heard 40:30 came from one of the healthy 100 churches in Florida. 40:33 Jim, take it. Yes. 40:34 Mike, and the environment is so important. 40:38 And in our churches here in Florida, 40:41 what is the goal of setting that type of environment? 40:45 Well, we began--as we began to interact with Florida hospital 40:49 over the last few years, Jim. 40:51 We have noticed that Florida hospital 40:54 is able to minister to the community, 40:57 remain authentic in their Christianity 41:00 and meet the needs of people in wonderful and compelling ways. 41:04 So we began to ask ourselves, 41:05 how can we transfer this same focus into our churches? 41:11 And we began to talk and pray and think about 41:14 inviting churches to become healthy 100 churches. 41:17 So today churches are conducting creation health seminars 41:22 in order to help their communities 41:24 come to know the abundant life, 41:26 a life that's full and whole that Jesus wants to bring to us. 41:30 Are you encouraging churches throughout the state to do this 41:33 or only just in the--in the greater Orlando and Tampa area? 41:37 We have churches mainly where we have Adventist hospitals 41:41 from just north of Daytona down to Tampa along the I-4 corridor 41:46 but there are churches all across the state now 41:48 who are beginning to say 41:50 we want to be a part of the creation health emphasis. 41:52 We want to do something that will make a difference 41:55 in the lives of the people in our community. 41:57 And your churches are interested 41:59 not only in the spiritual life of the individual 42:02 but the physical life as well 42:04 so they can have a happier, healthier life. 42:06 You can be much more spiritual 42:08 when you're having good health. 42:10 We have so many stories of how God is blessing. 42:13 A pastor down in Hollywood, 42:15 Nelson de Oliveira has been diagnosed with M.S. 42:19 He joined an M.S. support group. 42:21 He began to teach healthy 100 recreation health concepts 42:25 to the people in his community 42:27 and in his church and of all the people in his support group 42:31 he is the only one who is not in a wheelchair today. 42:34 He attributes that to teaching creation health principles. 42:38 Wow, that's tremendous. 42:39 And, Des, I know that we have been seeing 42:42 some tremendous things happen in Florida hospital. 42:45 Especially, as you work together with the churches, 42:48 tell us about the new tower at Florida hospital, would you? 42:51 I'd love to tell you about the new tower 42:53 because what we believe our hospital facilities 42:55 are to be is an environment 42:57 where we have a sanctuary of healing. 43:00 And that brings us to the next principle in creation health, 43:04 a sanctuary of healing. 43:05 And if you look at this building you see a spire on it 43:08 because you believe that every community 43:11 that has a hospital should treat it as a cathedral of care. 43:16 And in that is a spire that faces up to God. 43:19 And you'll notice that spire is open with the face towards God 43:22 because it's a--in within that spire we have conference room. 43:25 It's where all of the care planning goes on 43:28 but, first of all, we teach people 43:30 that we face God 43:31 for all good things come down from the Father of lights. 43:34 And we light that spire with His presence 43:37 and it ignites those rooms with the ideas of healing 43:40 the whole person that will cause people to experience 43:43 the eternal healing of mind, body and spirit. 43:46 And, Jim, we couldn't be more excited than to know 43:49 that the environment that we create 43:52 is to bring us back to God in the garden. 43:54 You see, He created an environment where-- 43:57 in which humans were to thrive. 43:58 It was a garden but the fact is we now live in a jungle 44:03 but the truth is every week on Sabbath the gardens open again. 44:07 We have the opportunity to come back. 44:09 And every day we can reshape our lives 44:12 and change the environment around that garden. 44:16 You know, when I was at the Florida hospital 44:18 not long ago you showed me a mural. 44:21 And would you tell us a little bit about that mural? 44:23 Absolutely, as you enter the building 44:26 the first thing we want to have is shape, 44:28 is the building speaks to you 44:30 from the exterior with the tower and with the spire. 44:33 And then as you enter the building 44:34 we have a three floor mural 44:36 that you see as you come down the escalators. 44:39 That's three stories high. 44:41 It is a picture that depicts all of the blessings of creation 44:44 and all the hopes of heaven. 44:46 So you find all those mixed in this one picture. 44:48 It's called creation and recreation. 44:51 And we believe that this inspires people 44:53 to tell them what we're about. 44:54 And it creates an environment 44:56 that is not completely toxic with all the things 45:00 that you would expect in just a sterile environment. 45:03 But it is a place that inspires the soul. 45:07 Well, you know there are lots of things that inspire us 45:09 but I think nature is one of those great things. 45:12 And working together with some of the natural health laws 45:15 that you are working with-- 45:17 recently I heard about a video that you have. 45:21 Absolutely. In this video you're going to hear a story. 45:25 A people who never knew as to what it was 45:27 to have a Christian hospital. 45:29 A people who came and were so influenced 45:32 by the power of the environment 45:34 that it changed their lives and changed their future. 45:37 It's a story about a young girl. Watch. 45:50 Most children have dreams. 45:52 Laura's was to swim with the dolphins and she did. 45:56 This is a story about a brave little girl, 45:59 her beautiful big heart. 46:01 And the impact her short life made on others. 46:05 It's a story of joy and hope and love. 46:11 My daughter Laura was diagnosed 46:13 on the day before her tenth birthday with a brain tumor. 46:17 And we were then told that we-- we couldn't do anything. 46:21 Laura was a full of life girl. She'd long, blonde hair. 46:27 She was tenacious beautiful, had a beautiful personality. 46:32 She was a really kind hearted girl. 46:36 And then she-- I was so proud of her. 46:40 When Laura was first diagnosed 46:42 we asked her what she wanted to do. 46:43 And her dream was to swim with the dolphins 46:46 and go to the Disney parks in America. 46:48 So we booked up and we came, 46:50 and we went to Discovery Coach, and swim with the dolphins. 46:53 That smile on her face 46:55 when she kissed that dolphin for the first time. 46:59 It was worth every penny. 47:01 And, you know, seeing her around the parks was--she was happy. 47:06 She was so happy. 47:08 We did all the rides. We went to all the parks. 47:11 And we just had an absolutely fantastic nearly two weeks. 47:14 And we just felt that God had given her the holiday. 47:18 He'd given her the strength. He'd given her everything. 47:22 And then towards the end of the holiday 47:23 that's when she started to go downhill. 47:25 She'd come in with some numbness in her legs 47:27 which she had had previously before she came in 47:32 and then I think the plane ride just made it a little worse. 47:36 And--so she came in and was just, 47:39 kind of, complaining of a headache, 47:40 just general weakness, not feeling great. 47:43 We were very worried 47:45 about coming to hospital in a strange country. 47:48 But when we actually walked through the doors 47:50 everybody was really helpful and friendly. 47:53 We just noticed the love, you know. 47:54 You just--we didn't realize Christian hospitals existed. 47:57 But she was still a normal teenage girl 48:01 and happy and watching T.V., hanging out with her brother, 48:06 hanging out--you know, very interactive with the nurses. 48:09 She really thought that she was getting better-- 48:13 you know, and that we'd be ought to go back to the parks 48:15 for the next couple of days and fly home on a Monday. 48:18 And all of a sudden she's got a dreadful pain in her head. 48:21 And the doctors came around. 48:24 They took her down for scan. 48:26 And when she was down having scan I went in with her. 48:29 And her lungs collapsed and all of a sudden 48:34 there was a crowd of nurses and doctors all around. 48:36 And, um, the next minute she is on life support. 48:42 And it went on from there. 48:43 I don't know whether it was a doctor or nurse 48:45 but he got down on his knees and he started praying. 48:48 And we were praying for her. 48:51 Just going, "Oh, Lord, just heal her" you know, "just heal her." 48:54 Over that period of time, 48:56 we'd had, I think, three pastors-- three or four pastors 49:00 coming to pray with us for Laura's--for Laura. 49:05 We had respiratory staff, 49:06 respiratory nurses praying on their knees 49:09 while they are treating her. 49:11 We have transportation staff praying over Laura 49:14 and talking to my family in the cafeteria. 49:19 And giving some encouragement. 49:20 My husband prayed, "don't make her suffer," you know? 49:23 "If you want to take her, just take her quickly." 49:25 My husband had actually asked for a sign 49:27 about what was going to happen. 49:29 And just as he asked that over the tunnel we came, 49:32 Poem lullaby, go to sleep, go to sleep, and we know, 49:36 we had to let her go. 49:40 The--the feeling of love that we got here with children, 49:43 the Florida children's hospital, their unconditional love. 49:45 It was love shown to us 49:47 that we didn't expect from people we didn't know. 49:52 And for us, we'd never expected anything like that. 49:55 We feel being thousands of miles away from home 49:58 that we would feel totally isolated being here, 50:01 with what was happening. But we didn't. 50:03 When we got home and we shut the door 50:06 that's when we felt isolated. 50:18 The Aslett family was invited 50:22 to participate in our 2004 memorial service 50:26 for those children who had died at Florida hospital. 50:30 Our expectation was that their participation would be 50:35 to send a picture of their daughter. 50:37 The invitation arrived. 50:38 It was such a lovely invitation with the yellow ribbon. 50:41 And I just knew I had to-- 50:45 we had to come back because they are family. 50:47 Because we had such a positive experience 50:50 when we were at the hospital 50:52 even though our daughter died which was very tragic and sad. 50:55 We thought the care that we received 50:57 was just absolutely wonderful. 51:00 The purpose of the memorial service is to bring together 51:05 the families of the children who have died, 51:09 to bring them together not only with each other 51:12 for whatever healing environment that may provide. 51:16 We're just so glad we came to the memorial service 51:21 because we wanted to try to see some of the people 51:23 that helped us and to thank them. 51:26 The service was lovely, the harp playing. The solo singers. 51:32 We just felt, as we walked into the church, 51:35 we just felt God's presence in that church. 51:38 It was a really lovely feeling. 51:40 You know God was in it. 51:48 From the moment Laura was diagnosed until the day she died 51:51 the hand of God was protecting us. 51:55 Nobody ever wants to lose their child. 51:57 You always want the healing to be, a medical healing. 52:01 But sometime it just can't be. 52:03 But the way it happened here, she didn't suffer. 52:07 She did what she wanted to do and she died happy. 52:12 We know we're gonna see her again but we're parents. 52:14 We had less than 12 years with our daughter. 52:17 And at times it's hard 52:19 but we have only lost her for this life. 52:20 And this is a short part of our life. 52:23 The time on earth is the shortest part. 52:25 We have eternal life again 52:27 and we'll have that with our daughter. 53:00 The timeless theme 53:03 Earth and heaven will pass away 53:10 It's not a dream 53:13 God will make all things new that day 53:21 Gone is the curse 53:25 From which I stumbled and fell 53:31 Evil is banished 53:35 To eternal hell 53:40 No more night 53:45 No more pain 53:50 No more tears 53:55 Never crying again 54:00 Praises to the great I Am 54:09 We will walk in the light 54:14 Of the risen Lamb. 54:20 Look over there 54:24 It's a mansion prepared for me 54:31 Where I can live with my Savior 54:36 Eternally 54:43 No more night 54:48 No more pain 54:54 No more tears 54:58 Never crying again 55:03 Praises to the great I Am 55:12 We will live in the light 55:17 Of the risen Lamb 55:22 We will live in the light 55:27 Of the risen Lamb 55:51 Amen. Well done, Jennifer. 55:52 Thank you so very much. 55:54 We wouldn't feel right 55:56 if we went through this program without giving something away. 55:59 We like to do that at 3ABN. We like to give things away. 56:03 And our friends at Florida hospital 56:04 have provided for us tonight's free offer. 56:08 It is book entitled "Creation Health Discovery," 56:13 "Creation Health Discovery." 56:16 This is a book written by Des Cummings and Monica Reed. 56:19 And it is our pleasure to get this in the mail to you 56:24 if you will call us 618-627-4651, 618-627-4651 56:32 or email us at freeoffer@3abn.org 56:37 That's freeoffer@3abn.org. 56:41 It would be our privilege 56:43 and pleasure to get this right out to you. 56:45 This is something you need to have in your library. 56:47 You can read it and then share it. 56:50 You don't want to put this down. 56:51 This is gonna make you healthy, happier, 56:54 dare I say, it will make you even look better 56:56 if you follow the things and practices 56:58 that we know work that give you a great life 57:02 here on this earth as we prepare 57:03 for the higher citizenship in the world to come. 57:06 It was my privilege some years ago to co-produce 57:08 the Loma Linda health study video two, 57:11 the promotional video that was used 57:13 for the Loma Linda health study. 57:15 And one of the things we found is that 57:17 when you follow these health principles 57:19 there are benefits that accrue 57:22 from living a good wholesome life, from getting the rest, 57:26 from making the right choices, 57:27 from giving your life to the Lord, 57:29 from surrounding yourself with people who encourage you. 57:32 You will live healthier, happier, holier-- 57:35 you'll have a better life here now 57:37 as you prepare for the higher citizenship 57:39 in the world which is to come. 57:40 Stay back. We're gonna take a two minute break. 57:42 We'll be back in just two minutes 57:44 for more of this wonderful program, God bless. |
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