Well good evening, and welcome
to Nightlight coming to you Live
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very Live, and with
all of the background music
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that we don't need
right now, from Oshkosh.
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And we're just happy to be here.
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Greg, I'm happy
to have you with me.
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It's always a privilege.
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Greg Morikone. Our good
friend C. A. Murray's still
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recovering from surgery.
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And, C. A., we wish you well.
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We've been praying for you.
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And we're hearing good reports.
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But we hope that we hear the
best report, and that would be
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that you're back on your feet,
and really functioning again.
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You are in our
prayers, in our thoughts.
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We think about you an awful lot,
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and we really do
miss you; the entire crew.
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And I miss you especially,
because we've worked together
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now for 8 years,
7 years of starting.
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It just seems like 8, I guess.
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But we're starting our 8th year
here in a few days with 3ABN.
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And much of that time you
and I have worked side by side.
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But I'll tell you right
now, I'm getting used to Greg,
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so you'd better
hurry and get back.
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Because this guy is really
a great person to work with.
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Well listen, our first
guest tonight is extremely busy.
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Well, that's for sure.
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From one place to
another, Elder Ted Wilson,
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the General
Conference president.
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Elder Wilson, we welcome you.
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Thank you very much Jim.
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And you just flew in today,
and tomorrow you head out again.
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Actually, we do. We're heading
to an international conference
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on Bible and Science with many
people from all over the world,
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helping to re-enforce and
lift up Biblical creation,
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and the flood, and our
understanding of Genesis 1-11.
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But we're here at Oshkosh
with all these Pathfinders.
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It's marvelous.
Wow! Isn't it amazing?
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You know,
sometimes people think, Well,
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they just have meetings.
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They hear about this
speaker, or that person.
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I've never even
seen some of that.
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There are so many things going
on that there is no way on earth
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anybody could
get to all of them.
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Haven't you been amazed?
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The extensive aspect of this
camporee is unbelievable. Yeah.
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So many things
that are happening;
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many wonderful things.
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And also I'm really
amazed at the order.
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You know, you think
about the children of Israel,
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maybe a million and half
people, two million people
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in the desert, and how
they all had their encampments,
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and everything was in order.
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And you go around here;
there are approximately,
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well about 47,000
people, 46,000 attending,
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and thousands staying in tents.
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I'm really impressed with the
orderliness, even though there
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may be a few
problems here and there.
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But God's really blessing.
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Yeah, we don't focus
so much on the negative.
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We try to focus on the positive.
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A lot of young people
really being influenced,
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and they are influencing.
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They're out
passing out literature.
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Tomorrow night we're going to
be featuring some of the young
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people that have been going door
to door passing out literature,
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and the gentleman
that organizes that.
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Well, let me ask you this.
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Last, when we came in, and
I've mentioned this before,
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Camille and I were just
blown away by the number
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of young people here.
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And I said to her, I believe
our church has a great future
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right up till the Lord comes,
because of these young people.
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Nearly 50,000 young people here.
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And this is
really one of the smaller
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divisions in the world now.
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What does it look like
around the world for our youth?
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Truly this is a
very impressive setting.
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And, you know,
the church was started
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primarily by young people.
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And the work will
be finished by young
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people to a great extent.
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And this is only an indication,
this kind of a gathering,
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and other
gatherings around the world,
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where people get together, young
people on fire for the Lord,
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studying God's word.
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The theme for this particular
camporee is Forever Faithful,
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focusing on Daniel,
on his three friends,
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and upon their
faithfulness to God's word,
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and to the principles
that were placed in their
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heart by their parents.
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And again, that's such
a vital aspect of a young
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person's experience; the
instruction and the love,
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the Biblical understanding
that starts in the home.
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But all around the world we're
seeing a tremendous interest
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on the part of young people,
not just in being entertained,
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not just coming to a big meeting
where they can just watch,
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but to actually get involved in
service, in understanding what
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God has in store
for them as a person.
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And we have thousands of young
people in so many parts of this
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planet who are on fire for
the Lord, giving out literature,
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holding evangelistic meetings,
witnessing to their friends,
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enjoying life to the
fullest, and allowing
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the Lord to lead them.
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I'm just so proud of our young
people who are now focusing
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so heavily on Bible study, on
prayer, and on service for God.
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You know, I want to say, too,
how much I appreciate leadership
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in the church supporting us.
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I'm not quite
Pathfinder age anymore,
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but supporting us as
young people in the church.
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I know GYC; you're
heavily involved with that,
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of course all of
the church activities,
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like Pathfinder Camporee here.
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And I know today, my wife and
I were on the sidelines as you
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were involved in a parade.
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You were right there in
the midst of the young people.
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And you just came from a
special event just before
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you came on Live here.
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Tell us a little bit about that.
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Well, it was a great privilege
to baptize two young men:
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Jimuel and Nick, and then to
be able to see them completely
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give their lives to
the Lord, come up new
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creatures in Jesus Christ.
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And every evening at 6:00
o'clock a baptism takes place.
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They have four pools.
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I think we have a
little bit of footage of that.
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While you're talking we'll
go and roll that just tonight.
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Four pools, and they
baptize at 6:00 o'clock.
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They have it scheduled
for different unions from
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North America and
international as well.
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There are about, you
know, 46,000 attending here.
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I think about 2,000
or more are from outside
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of the North American Division.
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So there is a strong
representation, you know,
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so to speak,
from world divisions.
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You know, and that's the
encouraging thing, isn't it?
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when young people
make a stand, and take a
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stand for Jesus Christ.
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Because you think about Daniel.
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He took a tremendous stand, and
his friends for Jesus Christ.
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And it doesn't always
mean that life will be easy.
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But we know that God is
with us, Forever Faithful.
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A great theme, I think,
for the Pathfinder Camporee.
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There's a little bit of
the footage now, I think,
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of some of the baptism that took
place just a few minutes ago
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there right by the main stage.
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Yeah. Oh it was a
great opportunity.
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In fact, talking about baptisms,
I'd like to also indicate to
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C. A. that we hope that
he will be recovering soon,
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because it was a great privilege
to baptize right next to C. A.
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in a pool in Manila, Philippines
just a few months ago.
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I saw the picture and I
told him, I said, You were right
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there next to the president.
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I teased him a
little bit about that.
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We had a wonderful
time. We praise God.
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But he had a
wonderful time there.
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He and Irma, they really loved
working with the people there,
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and are looking forward to
going back one of these days
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and holding another meeting.
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But baptisms, you know,
whether its young people,
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or older people, those are just
highlights in our lives. Amen.
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What are some of the plans that
you envision for the world field
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for our young people?
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We have right now a plan
which we're implementing.
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It's called One Year In
Mission, where in New York City
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we started this
with a representative
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from every division.
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That representative spent six
months in New York helping to
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prepare for the great NY 13
evangelist meetings all across
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New York, a metropolitan area.
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And then from there
they went to their divisions.
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They are participating, and
have participated in phase two,
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where every union, of every
division sent individuals to a
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particular place, a big city
where they could do large scale
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evangelism, personal witnessing,
following Spirit of Prophecy
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counsel, Biblical counsel.
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Now they're going to phase 3,
where they're moving to unions,
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to a city, and conferences
will send young people.
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We're hoping in a short time
that thousands of young people
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will be involved in
giving one year of service,
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sponsored by their local church,
assisted by the conference,
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Bible studies, going door
to door, evangelistic meetings.
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I believe that once young people
get involved in service to the
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Lord, just as Daniel
did, serving Him faithfully,
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that God just takes a
special place into their hearts.
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You know, that is
the way to win our youth
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is to put them to work.
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I'm sure that you were
put to work, so to speak,
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when you were a young man.
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The same was true with me.
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If somebody hadn't tapped
me on the shoulder and said,
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We want you to do this,
and we want you to do that,
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I don't know
where I'd have been.
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But they did, and it makes
a big difference in our life.
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And we're trying to encourage
our viewers to do the very same
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thing with your young people.
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Everything, every young people's
program, even our program here
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that they're having
with the Pathfinders.
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I haven't seen anything
that I didn't approve of,
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but there's always
something that you don't.
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But you just keep reaching
out preaching the truth,
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helping those young
people, and helping them
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to know more about Jesus.
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And I really think that if
local churches took an even more
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direct interest, and a greater
focus upon the young people
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that they have in their church,
even if there are only a few,
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get to know their names.
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Call them by name on Sabbath.
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Tell them you're
glad that they're here.
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Put them to work. Make
them feel a part of the church.
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Young people will warm up
to that and then the Lord can
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use them in a
very, very direct way.
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But local churches need
to make those young people
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feel very much at home.
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And take a risk
with young people.
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Give them something to
do and let them run with it,
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even if they make a mistake.
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Don't worry, you know, we all
make mistakes, and let's just
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redirect them towards
the Lord, and towards the
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Lord's soon coming.
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I believe that young people are
really gearing up for something
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very unique and
special in the worldwide
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Seventh-day
Adventist church right now.
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We see it all over the
world, and we're so proud
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of these young people
focusing on the Bible,
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focusing on prophecy, focusing
on understanding who we are as
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Seventh-day Adventists
in these very end times.
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I mean we look
around, everything seems to be
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crumbling around us.
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And we just recognize that
the Lord is coming very soon.
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And young people
are catching the fire.
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They really are. Elder
Wilson, would you have a prayer
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with us, and with our viewers
so that we can know that our
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leader is seeking God in
everything that we are doing.
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Would you do that?
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It would be a privilege.
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Our loving Father, we
come to You in this interesting
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makeshift studio of 3ABN here on
this enormous campus in Oshkosh.
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And, Lord, we ask in a special
way that You will guide and
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bless the transmissions
of the programming of 3ABN
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as it reaches into the hearts
and the homes of literally
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millions of
people around the world.
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We pray for the
impact on young people.
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We pray for the guidance that
each of us needs in knowing how
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best to help the young people
in our own local churches.
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And Lord I just pray
for the young people of the
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Seventh-day Adventist
Church, and all young people;
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young people who are
searching for meaning in life
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as they see role models around
them who seem to drift into
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challenging and
difficult problems;
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problems with drug and alcohol
abuse, problems that end with
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suicide and with
a demoralizing end.
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Help young people to lift their
vision and see that the Lord has
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something extraordinary
for them as they head into
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the future, and that they need
to look outside of themselves
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and look to the Lord Jesus
Christ, and to helping other
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people find
Jesus in their lives.
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So Lord bless our young people,
and bless our church as we move
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into the very last
days of earth's history.
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We long to see Jesus come.
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We ask that it will be in our
lifetime by the grace of Jesus.
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So guide each one of us,
and bless this program as it
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continues to reach out and
touch the hearts of people.
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In the precious and wonderful
name of our Lord and Savior,
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our Creator, and our coming
King, and our best friend,
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Jesus Christ, Amen.
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We would love to have you stay
with us longer, but we know you
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have another appointment.
00:14:16.75\00:14:18.09
I promised Kevin Costello, my
good friend, that we would let
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you go in time for you to be
over at the other place at 7:30.
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So thanks
again. Great privilege.
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We really
appreciate your coming.
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And Greg, it's
great to be with you.
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And C. A. we hope you'll
be soon with the group again.
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And it's been a
privilege to be with all of you
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who are listening. God bless.
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Amen! Well, listen,
you've got some good footage
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today to share with us.
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Yes, you know earlier
today we were talking about,
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just a few minutes ago,
about Elder Wilson being
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involved with the parade.
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And, Oh, several hours ago
my wife Jill was able to go out
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there and be involved
with the parade, and take some;
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well she, not herself, but
some crew members and herself,
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were able to go out
and get some footage.
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So we want to go to
that video roll right now.
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I'm standing here on the
Young Eagles tarmac where the
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excitement has been
building to a fever pitch.
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I'm speaking of the
daily on-site parade.
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And right now you can
see the parade is just
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beginning to start.
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We're privileged today because
we have Elder Ted Wilson,
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and his wife Nancy.
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And they are here with us.
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Elder Wilson just
addressed the Pathfinders.
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And then we're going to
watch them as they go by.
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Each day they have a different
union who will be coming
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who will be presenting.
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And today's unions are
the North Pacific Union,
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the Pacific Union, and
we've had the Mid America Union.
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So we're excited to see the
parade and what's going to be
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taking place here today.
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I'm here with a young
Pathfinder on the tarmac as the
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parade is marching by.
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And what is your name?
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Timothy. Timothy. And
where are you from, Timothy?
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Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania.
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And he has a whole
backpack full of pins.
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And we're going to
get one of his pins.
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Are you having a
good time here at Oshkosh?
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Definitely. Tell me,
What is your favorite thing
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about Oshkosh so far?
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Well, you get to meet a lot of
new people, and you get to trade
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a lot of these
pins, like I said.
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And the best part, I
think, about this is to interact
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with one another,
getting new friendships
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all around the globe.
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That's great. And I have
a new friendship in Timothy;
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a new friend in Timothy.
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It's been an exciting time.
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And we've had the
Mid America Union,
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and we've had the Pacific Union,
and the North Pacific Union.
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Each day we get to see different
Pathfinder unions as they share
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and as they march.
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That was one
impressive parade. It was.
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You got a little
feel for it, folks.
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But I will tell you when
the Mount Rubido went by...
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I could feel the
drums in my chest.
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I could! It was so invigorating.
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It was. Very exciting.
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Wonderful church there
located near the La Sierra,
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California campus.
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I've been there.
Wonderful group of people.
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And what a group of
Pathfinders they had.
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I liked that one... I'm
sorry, I interrupted you. No!
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That one little young man.
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Didn't you like what he said?
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He liked that he had
the ability to connect with
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others around the world. Yeah.
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And that's the neat
thing of Pathfinders.
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It's not just North
America, but it's worldwide.
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The young man said
global interaction.
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And that's neat, isn't it? Yeah.
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That's right. As Elder Wilson
said, Over 2,000 that are here
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just from around the world.
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So there's a good mixture,
even though the great majority
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are North Americans.
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But, you know, many of
our North American's come from
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around the world now.
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So you hear a lot
of different accents.
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Well listen, we've got some
people that are going to tell us
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about the history of
Pathfinders. Excellent.
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Where it got started, how
it got started, who started it.
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I think I knew
some of those guys.
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They were kind of going off
the scene when I was coming on,
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but some interesting people.
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And I'm going to wait and see
if you're mentioning the names
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that I think were involved.
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But Terry Dodge, we welcome you.
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And Terry is the President/CEO
of Youth Pathfinder
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Discovery Learning Center.
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And we're going to
hear some more about that,
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and some plans that
they have for the future.
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And then we have Dixie Plata.
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Dixie has really
been involved with
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Pathfinders for a long time.
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She's, for a young
lady, she's done an awful
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lot with Pathfinders.
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And she knows more about
the history of Pathfinders,
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probably, than
anyone alive, and has
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gathered more information.
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And then my good
friend, Pastor Leo Ranzlin.
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And he's the board chairman of
the Youth Pathfinder Discovery
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Learning Center, and at
one time vice president of the
00:19:33.74\00:19:38.71
General Conference, retired
now, living the life of leisure
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as chairman of the board.
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I'm teasing, but Leo I
know you would never, never...
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And we both, we had a
very good mutual friend
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in Leonard Westphal.
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Leonard was... I
miss him as well.
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So why don't we... Yeah you're
going to need to pick up that
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mike though, Leo, if
you're... when you're talking.
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Hold it right up to your mouth.
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Because these are very
directional, and they won't pick
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you up if we're not doing that.
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Well, Terry, we're
going to start with you.
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Give us a little rundown
here on this organization,
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and some of the
things you're doing.
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And we'll talk a
little bit about also the
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booth you have here.
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Well, many years ago, in
the late 80's, we began talking
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about having a home
where we could display,
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and show the things that
would belong to Pathfinders.
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And we kept working on that.
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Dixie became our historian.
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And so as a result of that, we
began to see a broader vision,
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more of a youth program,
because it was young people who
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started the church.
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And so the whole thing is
broadened to where it involves
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the beginning of the
church, right down through
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Pathfinders, and on to today.
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And so that's why we're here;
here in this place in Oshkosh
00:21:04.39\00:21:08.73
displaying about 27,000
square feet of artifacts,
00:21:08.76\00:21:14.14
and things over the
history of our church.
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Wow! That's amazing!
Have you been to see this?
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You know, unfortunately,
I haven't been able to,
00:21:22.24\00:21:24.98
but I know we have some footage.
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When we go and
roll that I'll get it.
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I'll get my first time
to actually see that. Okay.
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Let's actually go ahead
and roll some of that now,
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and you can tell us
what we're looking at here.
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Well, here we're looking at the
map that young people can come
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in and put a pin
on where they're from;
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either United States, or
North America, or the world.
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Dixie this is of Room 1.
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These are the flags of
the North American Division.
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This happens to be a display of
camping, and trying to give the
00:21:49.57\00:21:53.71
young people an idea of the
things that happened from the
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beginning and onward.
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At Room 2 we have
the history of the
00:21:57.85\00:22:02.15
Seventh-day Adventist Church.
00:22:02.18\00:22:03.52
It was started
with young people. Yes.
00:22:03.55\00:22:04.89
And we want our young
people to know they're
00:22:04.95\00:22:07.66
part of this church. Right.
00:22:07.69\00:22:09.02
Ellen White was seventeen when
she had her first vision. Yeah.
00:22:09.06\00:22:12.53
So this is all here
at the Pathfinder booth
00:22:12.56\00:22:15.93
to create the
history in the museum.
00:22:15.96\00:22:18.30
And so what are
we looking at here?
00:22:18.33\00:22:20.60
This is the Junior Missionary
Volunteers talking about
00:22:20.64\00:22:24.24
our reading program.
00:22:24.31\00:22:25.64
Here's Desmond Doss who was
a great person in typing knots;
00:22:25.67\00:22:30.31
saved all those
people during the war.
00:22:30.35\00:22:32.51
That's his uniform. Wow!
00:22:32.58\00:22:34.15
Here's the honors that were
developed during those times.
00:22:34.18\00:22:37.99
Dixie, there was what?
27, 28 the first go around?
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Then we have also
the summer camps of all
00:22:42.26\00:22:46.93
the conferences
displayed. Incredible!
00:22:46.96\00:22:49.63
And then different
things, like the honor.
00:22:50.60\00:22:52.53
That's a knot board, not honor.
00:22:52.57\00:22:55.94
And this is the native American
display that we have here
00:22:55.97\00:22:59.31
showing where they can
learn their Indian lore.
00:22:59.34\00:23:02.11
They had a wonderful
leader called Danny Davis,
00:23:02.14\00:23:04.88
who I worked with many times.
00:23:04.91\00:23:06.31
And a wonderful man who passed
away, but we were happy to show
00:23:06.38\00:23:09.88
a display of his life ministry
to young people. Excellent.
00:23:09.92\00:23:13.42
This is in the world
Pathfinder area, Area 7.
00:23:13.46\00:23:18.09
And we have items there from
Inter America, South America,
00:23:18.13\00:23:22.56
Australia, South
Africa, Finland, South Korea.
00:23:22.63\00:23:27.87
We are collecting all the time.
00:23:27.90\00:23:29.24
We want our young people
to know all around the world
00:23:29.27\00:23:32.34
God loves them, and
they're part of this program.
00:23:32.37\00:23:35.71
Young people are able
to actually build a canoe.
00:23:35.74\00:23:39.05
I saw them chiseling away.
00:23:39.11\00:23:40.98
That's exactly what they were.
00:23:41.02\00:23:42.88
Yeah. And so we just cover
the whole entire history of the
00:23:42.92\00:23:47.86
church and our youth
ministry and Pathfinders.
00:23:47.89\00:23:51.63
Wow! 27,000 square
feet here in the Pathfinder.
00:23:51.66\00:23:55.33
That's what the museum takes
up the space here? Correct.
00:23:55.36\00:23:57.40
Yep, wow, that's a large space.
00:23:57.43\00:23:59.67
Now where did Pathfinders
actually start? Well, Dixie.
00:23:59.70\00:24:04.21
Pathfinders started in
Southeastern California
00:24:04.24\00:24:07.14
Conference, and there's a
lot of stories about that.
00:24:07.18\00:24:10.71
Some of them
are not true. Right.
00:24:10.75\00:24:12.68
Some of the books that we read
that tell us that Pathfinders
00:24:12.71\00:24:16.99
started at a certain time,
and it was the first Conference
00:24:17.02\00:24:19.62
sponsored are incorrect.
00:24:19.65\00:24:21.62
But 1927-28, John
McKemm with Pastor Guy Mann,
00:24:21.69\00:24:27.90
who was the youth director there
decided that they wanted to
00:24:27.93\00:24:31.43
do something for young people.
00:24:31.47\00:24:32.93
John had been a Scout Master,
and he knew that that wasn't
00:24:32.97\00:24:39.11
going to work for our
Adventist young people.
00:24:39.14\00:24:40.91
We needed
something for ourselves.
00:24:40.94\00:24:42.58
And he was a custodian at...
00:24:42.61\00:24:45.21
It's a long
story and a great one.
00:24:45.25\00:24:46.58
But he was a custodian in
Orange County School District.
00:24:46.61\00:24:49.85
And one of the schools they
went to was the Fremont School.
00:24:49.88\00:24:53.09
And he kept
reading the plaque about
00:24:53.12\00:24:54.89
John Fremont the Pathfinder.
00:24:54.92\00:24:56.56
And his colleagues teased him
and called him Mr. Pathfinder.
00:24:56.59\00:25:00.26
That's where our
name actually came from.
00:25:00.30\00:25:02.06
Is that right? Wow!
00:25:02.10\00:25:03.43
Later Arthur Spalding told
stories about Fremont, too,
00:25:03.47\00:25:07.34
and that name
really stuck. Un huh.
00:25:07.37\00:25:09.54
But that's where
it originally began.
00:25:09.57\00:25:11.67
Is that right? Group 10,
that one of the rules, you know?
00:25:11.71\00:25:15.68
And I have me a thrill, because
this is an awesome program.
00:25:15.71\00:25:18.11
Right. It's been a thrill
just to tell a little bit of the
00:25:18.15\00:25:21.12
history of Pathfinders.
00:25:21.15\00:25:22.48
Because don't you know,
in 1950, that's when the
00:25:22.52\00:25:24.79
General Conference officially
approved the Pathfinder program.
00:25:24.85\00:25:28.36
But, of course, John
Hancock, my boss. Yeah.
00:25:28.39\00:25:30.79
You know, famous. You remember
him with his accordion. Yeah.
00:25:30.83\00:25:34.46
He was a wonderful man; in
music, a teacher, a singer,
00:25:34.53\00:25:38.47
and he designed
many of the honors.
00:25:38.50\00:25:40.87
He designed the triangle.
00:25:40.90\00:25:42.24
He was a fantastic
man. He was my boss. Right.
00:25:42.27\00:25:44.37
And he had the idea, because the
people, you know, they see this
00:25:44.41\00:25:47.64
scouting program, but there
was something lacking there.
00:25:47.68\00:25:50.75
The spiritual
part. Yeah. That's right.
00:25:50.78\00:25:52.28
And would you believe there's
some people who are against
00:25:52.31\00:25:54.35
starting Pathfinder clubs?
00:25:54.38\00:25:55.72
I can believe it. But
there's always those, you know?
00:25:55.75\00:25:57.85
But officially
filing we started in 1950.
00:25:57.89\00:26:00.89
And you know what it is?
00:26:00.92\00:26:02.26
There's over two million
Pathfinders all over the world.
00:26:02.29\00:26:03.66
Okay now. Just amazing.
00:26:03.69\00:26:05.03
Originally started in
1950; John Hancock right?
00:26:05.06\00:26:07.96
Well, the General
Conference approved in 1950.
00:26:08.00\00:26:10.90
But John Hancock, '46,
'47, he was already involved
00:26:10.93\00:26:13.77
with Lawrence Falson, and Larry
Skinner, all these great leaders
00:26:13.80\00:26:18.71
of the past. Okay. Yes. Yep.
00:26:18.74\00:26:21.24
Dixie were you ever
part of any of those clubs?
00:26:21.28\00:26:25.31
I was a part of a club in
1950 at Spangle, Washington.
00:26:25.35\00:26:28.75
Were you? Yeah. Is that right?
00:26:28.78\00:26:30.19
And I've been in
Pathfinders for more than
00:26:30.22\00:26:32.85
fifty years now as staff. Yeah?
00:26:32.89\00:26:35.36
So, yeah, I've
been around awhile.
00:26:35.42\00:26:37.66
You've been around, haven't you?
00:26:37.69\00:26:39.89
I believe in Pathfinders.
00:26:39.93\00:26:41.63
You do, don't you?
00:26:41.66\00:26:43.00
Do you know there were only
seven leaders for the Pathfinder
00:26:43.03\00:26:46.03
church? Only seven, you
know, for the world church.
00:26:46.07\00:26:49.70
And three of them are
here, right now. Really?
00:26:49.74\00:26:52.37
Another one in Australia,
but Elder Skinner passed away,
00:26:52.41\00:26:56.34
John Hancock, and
also Mike Stevenson.
00:26:56.38\00:26:58.91
But four are still alive, and
the program is still growing.
00:26:58.95\00:27:02.28
From the original
group? Yes. Is that right?
00:27:02.32\00:27:05.22
And I had the privilege of
being number 3. Did you really?
00:27:05.25\00:27:07.76
That's the General
Conference leaders. Yeah, right.
00:27:07.79\00:27:11.09
It was my life. I
enjoyed that very much.
00:27:11.13\00:27:13.43
That's why I joined this group
here, because I'd just have
00:27:13.46\00:27:16.20
to stay behind, you know.
00:27:16.23\00:27:17.57
It's an awesome
program that they have.
00:27:17.60\00:27:19.17
It really is. Yes. Well,
Terry, when did you really get
00:27:19.23\00:27:22.10
involved with Pathfinders?
00:27:22.14\00:27:23.47
I got involved when I
was ten years old, in 1953.
00:27:23.51\00:27:27.94
Alright, so just three
years after you started.
00:27:27.98\00:27:30.48
That's right. Exactly. Wow!
00:27:30.51\00:27:31.85
And what conference was that in?
00:27:31.88\00:27:33.42
It was in the
Michigan Conference. Uh huh.
00:27:33.45\00:27:35.22
So I had the privilege of
being in Pathfinders, and then,
00:27:35.25\00:27:37.89
of course, working into
staff as I got a little older.
00:27:37.95\00:27:40.56
Do you remember who
the youth leader was in
00:27:40.59\00:27:42.16
Michigan in those days?
00:27:42.19\00:27:43.53
Well, it was Fred
Biven was our leader,
00:27:43.56\00:27:47.50
and was our youth
director at that time.
00:27:47.53\00:27:51.43
And Merrill Fleming was involved
with Pathfinders. Alright.
00:27:51.47\00:27:54.94
And he was there
for 26 years. Okay.
00:27:54.97\00:27:57.97
So then I went back and
was asked to take his place,
00:27:58.01\00:28:02.04
and be in the conference.
00:28:02.08\00:28:03.98
So from '90 to 2010 I
served the Pathfinder ministry
00:28:04.01\00:28:09.48
in Michigan Conference.
00:28:09.52\00:28:11.05
In Michigan Conference.
00:28:11.09\00:28:12.42
Alright, that was... And
Michigan has a great history of
00:28:12.45\00:28:17.59
working with our youth, and
especially with Pathfinders,
00:28:17.63\00:28:20.83
as does Southeastern
California Conference.
00:28:20.86\00:28:23.06
That's another area
that's been really strong.
00:28:23.10\00:28:26.84
But Jim, this thing is not
just a museum that we have. No.
00:28:26.87\00:28:30.71
It is a learning center. Okay.
00:28:30.74\00:28:33.07
Youth Pathfinder
Discovery Learning Center.
00:28:33.11\00:28:36.11
You know, I talked to
some of my friends in Brazil.
00:28:36.14\00:28:38.41
I just came back in January.
00:28:38.45\00:28:39.81
We have 35,000 there.
00:28:39.85\00:28:41.42
We had the leaders, you know.
00:28:41.48\00:28:42.82
We thought we had the largest,
but now we've got beaten over
00:28:42.85\00:28:44.85
here, and we're happy for that.
00:28:44.89\00:28:47.56
Well, Brazilians don't
like to lose at anything.
00:28:47.59\00:28:49.92
Oh, of course, of course.
00:28:49.96\00:28:51.29
Especially in soccer.
00:28:51.33\00:28:52.66
Not even in
soccer, right? Ha, ha, ha.
00:28:52.69\00:28:54.03
But, anyway, this is...
many of my friends said that.
00:28:54.06\00:28:56.73
As soon as this thing is
done, we want to go over there
00:28:56.77\00:28:59.93
to train some of our leaders.
00:29:00.00\00:29:01.64
They're not just seeing
the history of the church,
00:29:01.67\00:29:03.74
but they will be able to
learn skills to lead the youth,
00:29:03.81\00:29:07.44
and the Pathfinder
program around the world.
00:29:07.48\00:29:09.34
Well, that's
great. It really is.
00:29:09.38\00:29:10.98
No, teasing a
little bit about...
00:29:11.01\00:29:12.51
I've got so many
great Brazilian friends.
00:29:12.55\00:29:15.78
But I think...
Leonard Westphal was one.
00:29:15.82\00:29:17.95
Yeah, he really was.
00:29:17.99\00:29:19.69
But I think that...
and Moses Primo is another.
00:29:19.75\00:29:22.76
He's with us, you
know. Yes, yes, I know.
00:29:22.82\00:29:25.76
But anytime you want to humble
a Brazilian now you just say
00:29:25.79\00:29:29.33
7 to 1... Oh my, please don't
mention that. Ha, ha, ha, ha!
00:29:29.36\00:29:34.00
That's all you have to say.
00:29:35.17\00:29:36.50
That's okay. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
00:29:36.54\00:29:38.04
Well Terry, what is the dream
now of the Pathfinder Museum?
00:29:38.07\00:29:45.71
Well, our dream is to have a
facility that we can have year
00:29:45.75\00:29:51.25
round showing the story of
God's leading, as seen through
00:29:51.29\00:29:54.96
the eyes of young people.
00:29:54.99\00:29:56.52
It will tell the story.
00:29:56.56\00:29:57.99
Young people started the work,
and young people are going to
00:29:58.03\00:30:01.13
continue the work,
and finish the work.
00:30:01.16\00:30:03.33
Because when you think
about it, it is amazing what God
00:30:03.37\00:30:07.67
has done in this
church. Yes it is.
00:30:07.70\00:30:10.01
And so we want
to share that story.
00:30:10.04\00:30:12.27
And so we're looking at
Battle Creek is where we're
00:30:12.31\00:30:15.51
wanting to establish this.
00:30:15.54\00:30:17.18
And it will be the
mother, shall we say?
00:30:17.21\00:30:19.35
And from there we can in
turn have satellites going out
00:30:19.41\00:30:23.45
to other countries.
00:30:23.49\00:30:24.82
Already, Dixie, what
countries have we already
00:30:24.85\00:30:26.19
started? some places?
00:30:26.22\00:30:27.56
South America, Inner
America, and South Korea,
00:30:27.59\00:30:30.46
we've helped start museums.
00:30:30.53\00:30:33.40
Somebody told me they
were in South Korea recently
00:30:33.43\00:30:36.03
and there were thousands,
and thousands of young people
00:30:36.06\00:30:39.83
that were involved in
the Pathfinder affair there.
00:30:39.87\00:30:43.00
The rest of you should know
that Terry, and Norm Middag,
00:30:43.04\00:30:46.44
and Dixie, and
myself, we approached
00:30:46.47\00:30:48.54
Dan Jackson and Elder Wilson.
00:30:48.58\00:30:50.28
It has been approved officially
by the North American Division,
00:30:50.31\00:30:54.08
and by the General Conference.
00:30:54.12\00:30:55.45
So you would be a
part of the village there?
00:30:55.48\00:30:57.89
No, we'll be near the
village. Near the village.
00:30:57.92\00:31:01.12
The village has a time
line that ends in 1905. Okay.
00:31:01.16\00:31:04.69
So we wouldn't fit in
there because ours goes early,
00:31:04.86\00:31:08.13
and then goes much later. Right.
00:31:08.16\00:31:09.90
So we're going to
go near the village.
00:31:09.93\00:31:11.37
Near the village. So you're
looking for property there?
00:31:11.40\00:31:14.50
Property there. We...
00:31:14.54\00:31:15.87
And if somebody wants to help
with this project, how do they
00:31:15.90\00:31:18.87
get in touch with you, Terry?
00:31:18.91\00:31:20.24
They can get in touch with
us by going on the website:
00:31:20.28\00:31:23.01
ypdiscoverycenter.org. Okay.
00:31:23.04\00:31:27.92
And that will get
them right to our website.
00:31:27.95\00:31:29.88
And that will have the
addresses, the e-mails,
00:31:29.92\00:31:33.05
the phone numbers.
00:31:33.09\00:31:34.42
All of that information will
be right there on the website
00:31:34.46\00:31:36.19
that they can contact me
and Dixie, so either one of us,
00:31:36.22\00:31:39.96
and how they can also contribute
to help the project financially.
00:31:40.00\00:31:45.60
And that's what we want them
to do is help you financially,
00:31:45.63\00:31:49.30
to be able to put
this center together.
00:31:49.34\00:31:51.77
So if you didn't get that,
it's ypdiscoverycenter. org
00:31:51.81\00:31:59.91
If you don't get that,
if you call us at 3ABN,
00:31:59.95\00:32:03.08
we'll have, the
operators will have it,
00:32:03.12\00:32:04.99
and they'll get you
in touch with these two.
00:32:05.02\00:32:08.26
Because we want you to have
an opportunity to support this.
00:32:08.29\00:32:11.76
We believe in what you're doing.
00:32:11.79\00:32:13.56
And, you know, we're told that
as we forget how God has led
00:32:13.60\00:32:19.93
in the past, that's
when we don't move forward
00:32:19.97\00:32:23.77
properly for the future.
00:32:23.81\00:32:25.14
And I'm
restating it intentionally.
00:32:25.17\00:32:28.41
But I do believe that we must
see how God has led in the past,
00:32:28.44\00:32:34.78
and keep that
before our young people.
00:32:34.82\00:32:36.48
And, you know, this afternoon
Elder Jackson and Elder Wilson
00:32:36.52\00:32:40.19
they went
through the whole thing
00:32:40.22\00:32:41.96
They were just completely
amazed by what they saw.
00:32:41.99\00:32:44.79
Oh yeah. It's just beautiful.
00:32:44.83\00:32:46.33
I think one of the beautiful
things too, of having a Museum
00:32:46.36\00:32:48.66
Learning and Discovery
Center is that I'm sure you get
00:32:48.70\00:32:51.47
sometimes some very young
Pathfinders coming through.
00:32:51.50\00:32:53.90
I'm sure they're quite amazed,
aren't they? when they see
00:32:53.94\00:32:56.77
where Pathfinders has
come from, what its built into.
00:32:56.81\00:32:59.41
Because some of these, this is
all they know, seeing Oshkosh,
00:32:59.44\00:33:02.61
seeing what
Pathfinders is today.
00:33:02.64\00:33:04.81
And so it's a great way
for them to become familiar,
00:33:04.85\00:33:07.35
and see those who've
brought it to where it is now.
00:33:07.38\00:33:09.55
And, of course, Jesus Christ
is the One that has brought it
00:33:09.58\00:33:11.85
to where it is now.
00:33:11.89\00:33:13.22
But have you had any experiences
with any young people coming
00:33:13.25\00:33:15.62
through totally amazed,
shocked at what they're seeing?
00:33:15.66\00:33:18.26
Well, a lot of them are
because they've never seen
00:33:18.29\00:33:20.80
anything like this
before. Yes, absolutely.
00:33:20.83\00:33:23.37
The other thing, Jim, I'd like
to just mention is that we see
00:33:23.40\00:33:27.30
this as an evangelistic
outreach of the church
00:33:27.34\00:33:31.07
for several reasons.
00:33:31.11\00:33:32.51
We know that there are people
who come to the village now,
00:33:32.54\00:33:35.64
at the Heritage Village in
Battle Creek, who have children.
00:33:35.68\00:33:39.95
They come through. I've had
people come to events in they
00:33:39.98\00:33:43.42
ask, How can my children
become a part of Pathfinders,
00:33:43.45\00:33:47.09
or Adventures, or something?
00:33:47.12\00:33:49.16
Or how can we organize a club?
00:33:49.19\00:33:50.93
That's right. So our purpose
is going to be to get the name
00:33:50.96\00:33:55.20
of that individual,
their address, phone number,
00:33:55.23\00:33:58.23
and call the area they came
from and ask to let them know
00:33:58.27\00:34:02.10
they can be contacted that they
want to be a part of the club.
00:34:02.14\00:34:04.91
Also we know that there are
a lot of people who have been
00:34:04.94\00:34:09.18
in Pathfinders over the years.
00:34:09.21\00:34:11.28
Maybe something
happened in their life.
00:34:11.31\00:34:12.65
They left the Lord,
and they left the church.
00:34:12.68\00:34:14.75
They won't go to a
church, but they'll come to the
00:34:14.78\00:34:18.42
Discovery Learning Center.
00:34:18.45\00:34:19.79
They come there; something
kindles in their heart.
00:34:19.82\00:34:23.36
They remember stories...
I could tell you stories of
00:34:23.39\00:34:26.33
baptisms as a
result of things like this.
00:34:26.36\00:34:28.50
People will be reclaimed. Yes.
00:34:28.53\00:34:31.10
So we're seeing
this as a total outreach
00:34:31.13\00:34:33.54
ministry evangelistically. Wow!
00:34:33.57\00:34:36.34
Amen. Now I know we have some
graphics, some pictures that
00:34:36.37\00:34:39.67
we'd like to show right now.
00:34:39.81\00:34:41.14
And you can explain a little
bit about what we're looking at
00:34:41.18\00:34:42.51
here on the screen.
00:34:42.54\00:34:44.41
Here's our first
Youth Instructor in 1852,
00:34:44.45\00:34:47.65
right? 1852, yes.
That was before I was born.
00:34:47.68\00:34:52.05
I was just thinking, I was
trying to remember if it was.
00:34:52.09\00:34:54.26
Now Luther Warren and Harry
Finner were 14 and 17 when they
00:34:54.29\00:34:58.79
began the first youth program
in 1879 in Hazelton, Michigan.
00:34:58.83\00:35:03.73
Wow! Okay! M. E. Kern was
our first General Conference
00:35:03.77\00:35:09.34
youth leader, 1907. Alright.
00:35:09.37\00:35:12.47
1907! What are
we looking at here?
00:35:12.51\00:35:14.88
Well, this is interesting
because a lot of young people
00:35:14.91\00:35:17.05
have been involved in
Ingathering over the years.
00:35:17.08\00:35:19.25
Oh yes, I was, too!
00:35:19.28\00:35:20.88
And that was started by
Jasper Wayne, and the year was?
00:35:20.92\00:35:24.69
Oh, you can't ask me
that right now. Okay.
00:35:24.72\00:35:27.56
I've had a long day.
00:35:27.59\00:35:28.92
And, of course, this
is our pledge and our law.
00:35:28.96\00:35:33.66
That was in 1921, I believe.
00:35:33.70\00:35:36.16
1919. 1919, okay. Wow!
00:35:36.20\00:35:39.90
So this was written, and
this is what we follow today;
00:35:39.93\00:35:42.34
the same thing we use today.
00:35:42.37\00:35:44.81
What a wonderful pledge.
00:35:44.84\00:35:46.17
Absolutely, absolutely.
00:35:46.21\00:35:47.54
It's meaningful.
Oh yes, very much so.
00:35:47.58\00:35:50.15
What do you think about
this Pathfinder Camporee
00:35:50.18\00:35:53.88
that we're attending right now?
00:35:53.92\00:35:55.48
What are some of your
impressions of the camporee?
00:35:55.52\00:35:58.15
Camporees, I've been a part
of them since Cape Hale in 1985,
00:35:58.19\00:36:03.22
and I believe in them.
00:36:03.26\00:36:04.59
I think it's a great thing
that our young people can get
00:36:04.63\00:36:07.03
together from around the
world, and across the division,
00:36:07.06\00:36:10.23
and meet friends, and see
the things that they are seeing,
00:36:10.27\00:36:14.10
participate in the things
that they are participating in,
00:36:14.14\00:36:16.24
and to learn how to
become more like Jesus.
00:36:16.27\00:36:21.41
In the stories that
are shared every evening,
00:36:21.44\00:36:24.55
what a message they get.
00:36:24.58\00:36:26.21
What a theme: Forever Faithful.
Amen, yeah, absolutely.
00:36:26.25\00:36:31.02
And when you look at the life of
Daniel and his friends. Right.
00:36:31.05\00:36:35.76
Wow! you do see faithfulness.
00:36:35.79\00:36:37.93
You really do, in
every aspect of their life.
00:36:37.96\00:36:41.30
One of the interesting things,
you know, you remember the World
00:36:41.33\00:36:43.57
Youth Conference in Zurich? Yes.
00:36:43.60\00:36:45.50
I remember the people
that came from Ireland.
00:36:45.53\00:36:47.84
They were just such a
small group, and they saw the
00:36:47.87\00:36:49.90
enormous congress with
all those young people.
00:36:49.97\00:36:52.37
And those that come from
overseas, or even the smaller
00:36:52.41\00:36:55.04
areas, and they are just
amazed to be a part of a great
00:36:55.08\00:36:58.08
movement, you know.
00:36:58.11\00:36:59.45
Because this is an agency
that has saved a lot of souls,
00:36:59.48\00:37:01.72
12 years old 13, and we baptize
more young people in our church.
00:37:01.75\00:37:05.55
That's when they make
their commitments for Christ.
00:37:05.59\00:37:07.99
When they come
over here, they'll never
00:37:08.02\00:37:09.66
forget this experience.
00:37:09.69\00:37:11.03
You know it's true, Leo.
00:37:11.06\00:37:12.39
And some of these young people
come from maybe a little church
00:37:12.43\00:37:15.73
in Illinois, or a little
church in Kansas, or in Texas,
00:37:15.76\00:37:19.63
and all they see
is a little church.
00:37:19.67\00:37:22.70
We're not that
small, are we? Right.
00:37:22.74\00:37:24.11
And then they come here and Wow!
00:37:24.14\00:37:26.71
There's that many kids in our...
00:37:26.74\00:37:28.94
Overwhelming, it's overwhelming.
00:37:28.98\00:37:31.11
It is! Well, it just makes them
feel like, you know something?
00:37:31.15\00:37:35.18
And I remember growing up
in a town in Tyler, Texas.
00:37:35.22\00:37:39.65
We had 27 members in our church,
and just 3 or 4 young people.
00:37:39.69\00:37:44.53
And I just remember feeling
how small we were until I saw
00:37:44.56\00:37:50.33
the numbers of
our worldwide church,
00:37:50.37\00:37:52.83
which at time was only 300,000.
00:37:52.87\00:37:55.17
You'll never forget that.
00:37:55.20\00:37:56.54
Right, but I kept thinking, Wow,
we're part of a larger thing.
00:37:56.57\00:38:00.44
We're not just
27 people, you know.
00:38:00.48\00:38:03.08
So this, I think, helps our
young people to realize this is
00:38:03.14\00:38:07.02
a gigantic work
around the world. Amen.
00:38:07.05\00:38:09.95
And its growing
leaps and bounds.
00:38:09.98\00:38:12.09
It took from the time 1863,
when they organized the church,
00:38:12.12\00:38:17.36
till 1963; it took 100
years to get to the first
00:38:17.39\00:38:22.63
million mark worldwide.
00:38:22.66\00:38:24.00
Isn't that something?
00:38:24.03\00:38:25.37
Isn't that amazing? Yeah.
00:38:25.40\00:38:26.74
And now here we are 51
years later knocking on the
00:38:26.77\00:38:32.27
door of twenty million.
00:38:32.31\00:38:33.64
I mean we're 18, 19 million,
somewhere in that range.
00:38:33.68\00:38:36.61
That is amazing! In just 50
years to do 18 times what was
00:38:36.64\00:38:41.68
done in a hundred years.
00:38:41.72\00:38:43.05
Was like me when I
started my ministry only.
00:38:43.08\00:38:45.42
And look what we have now.
00:38:45.45\00:38:46.86
Yeah, exactly! It was
you Leo. Yes! Ha, ha, ha.
00:38:46.89\00:38:50.46
Before you came on the scene we
only had a few thousand members.
00:38:50.49\00:38:54.96
That's right!
Yeah. Well, I tell you,
00:38:55.00\00:38:57.80
the work has grown all over.
00:38:57.83\00:39:00.44
And other divisions
even more than here. Yes.
00:39:00.47\00:39:04.21
It was like I mentioned to
Pastor Wilson, we're one of the
00:39:04.24\00:39:09.01
smallest divisions now here,
and look at the number of young
00:39:09.04\00:39:13.82
people that God
has blessed us with.
00:39:13.85\00:39:16.38
And you can imagine the
numbers in these divisions that
00:39:16.42\00:39:20.59
have 2 million members.
00:39:20.62\00:39:22.12
I mean they have just an
awful lot of young people.
00:39:22.16\00:39:26.76
Well, it's
exciting. It really is.
00:39:26.80\00:39:28.86
And we are praying for
this center that you're putting
00:39:28.90\00:39:33.70
together in Battle Creek.
00:39:33.74\00:39:35.30
We appreciate that.
00:39:35.37\00:39:36.71
It's going to be a soul winning
center, because its talking
00:39:36.74\00:39:39.37
about our young people.
00:39:39.41\00:39:40.74
Yeah, fantastic. And why
don't you give us that website
00:39:40.78\00:39:43.28
one more time, because sometimes
it takes, at least me anyway,
00:39:43.31\00:39:46.25
a little time to get a
pen and paper together.
00:39:46.31\00:39:48.25
Because we want to make sure we
have time that people can write
00:39:48.28\00:39:50.72
it down and support it.
00:39:50.75\00:39:52.09
ypdiscoverycenter. org
00:39:52.12\00:39:57.13
Amen. We really
appreciate the wonderful work
00:39:57.16\00:40:00.06
that you all are doing.
00:40:00.10\00:40:01.43
There's a lot of hard
work in setting all this
00:40:01.46\00:40:02.80
stuff up here, too.
00:40:02.83\00:40:04.17
That's a lot of
time to set all of it up.
00:40:04.20\00:40:05.53
But a beautiful
job you all have done.
00:40:05.57\00:40:07.50
And thank you so much.
00:40:07.54\00:40:08.87
I'm a young person.
00:40:08.90\00:40:10.24
I appreciate all the time you've
put forward to make it very
00:40:10.27\00:40:13.11
special for those
that are attending here at
00:40:13.14\00:40:15.01
the Oshkosh session.
00:40:15.04\00:40:16.38
And we appreciate you
praying for this project.
00:40:16.41\00:40:18.41
Thank you, and
we appreciate that.
00:40:18.45\00:40:20.75
Well, have you got some
more good footage to share with
00:40:20.78\00:40:24.32
us, Greg, for the day?
00:40:24.35\00:40:26.79
You know, I tell you what, we
have had a wonderful day here.
00:40:26.82\00:40:30.03
I wanted to just make a comment
actually, that I know that we're
00:40:30.06\00:40:33.19
outside here in the, I
don't want to say makeshift,
00:40:33.23\00:40:37.77
but the guys have put a
lot of hard work into this.
00:40:37.80\00:40:41.20
What did Wilson call
it? a, it was some type,
00:40:41.24\00:40:44.07
something like that.
00:40:44.11\00:40:45.44
Did he really? Oh, okay.
00:40:45.47\00:40:46.81
Well I don't want to disagree
with him, so ha, ha, ha!
00:40:46.84\00:40:48.88
That's pretty close!
00:40:48.91\00:40:50.25
But anyway, we're out here
in a tent, and you can hear
00:40:50.28\00:40:51.61
some noise behind us.
00:40:51.65\00:40:52.98
That's the airplanes.
00:40:53.01\00:40:54.35
How close are we to
the runway, Elder Gilley?
00:40:54.38\00:40:55.72
Too close! I will tell you that.
00:40:55.75\00:40:57.35
So just when you hear what
sounds like buzzing sounds,
00:40:57.39\00:40:59.29
and things like
that, the audio is fine.
00:40:59.32\00:41:01.09
We just have
planes and stuff going by.
00:41:01.12\00:41:02.86
But it's neat to be outside.
00:41:02.89\00:41:04.23
That's the neat thing, too.
00:41:04.26\00:41:05.59
There's a lot of young
people that are out here camping
00:41:05.63\00:41:07.56
in their tents, and I don't want
to say, I guess you could say
00:41:07.60\00:41:11.00
its roughing it a little bit.
00:41:11.03\00:41:12.37
But they seem
excited, don't they?
00:41:12.40\00:41:13.74
Most of them have
smiles on their faces.
00:41:13.77\00:41:15.44
They do, and they're
smiling a whole lot more now
00:41:15.47\00:41:18.17
that it's quit raining.
00:41:18.21\00:41:19.54
But we've got a tremendous crew.
00:41:19.57\00:41:23.08
And I haven't mentioned them.
00:41:23.11\00:41:24.45
I know they get the credits
at the end, but Rodney Laney,
00:41:24.48\00:41:27.72
and Brad Walker, and by the
way, Brad brought his son along,
00:41:27.75\00:41:31.02
Tyler, and Joel and Christine
Baker, Michael Younkin,
00:41:31.05\00:41:35.19
Dan Peak,
Curtis Hite, and Netto.
00:41:35.22\00:41:38.69
Where? Netto is out
there somewhere. Yeah.
00:41:38.73\00:41:41.36
He's a
Brazilian. Uh huh. Good man.
00:41:41.43\00:41:43.70
And ah, yeah, he's a good man.
00:41:43.73\00:41:46.43
Will Worf, Seth Davis,
Mark Davis, Larry McLucas,
00:41:46.47\00:41:50.71
Terrance
Marshall, and Len Wenzel.
00:41:50.74\00:41:52.84
And these are working hard.
00:41:52.87\00:41:55.81
They were out there in the
heat today, and it's warm today.
00:41:55.84\00:41:59.85
Plenty of sunshine.
00:41:59.88\00:42:01.65
In fact I look a little darker
today than I did yesterday
00:42:01.68\00:42:04.39
just from being
out in this sunshine.
00:42:04.45\00:42:07.06
So its, we appreciate
that crew and all the good
00:42:07.12\00:42:11.49
work they're doing.
00:42:11.53\00:42:12.86
Amen! And, you know, in
talking about being outside,
00:42:12.89\00:42:15.30
we're actually going to
ask Brenda Walsh to come on.
00:42:15.33\00:42:17.27
Because we have some
footage about what we did today.
00:42:17.30\00:42:22.17
And we thank you. I want to say
thank you all for being here.
00:42:22.20\00:42:25.94
What a privilege it
is to have you all here.
00:42:25.97\00:42:27.71
God bless you all. We
appreciate your taking the time
00:42:27.74\00:42:30.15
for being on with us.
00:42:30.18\00:42:31.51
May God continue to
bless your ministry.
00:42:31.55\00:42:33.38
Thank you, Leo. God
bless each one of you.
00:42:33.42\00:42:36.38
But as Brenda comes
on, we were talking about
00:42:36.42\00:42:38.32
being outside today.
00:42:38.35\00:42:39.69
And yes, I do feel like my
face burns just a little bit,
00:42:39.72\00:42:43.06
because we were
outside in the sun.
00:42:43.09\00:42:44.43
And I know some of
the crew members...
00:42:44.46\00:42:45.79
There's some of our set up
of the Learning Time today,
00:42:45.83\00:42:49.43
which is going on right
outside this tent that we're
00:42:49.46\00:42:52.60
actually in right now.
00:42:52.63\00:42:54.44
Look at the beautiful
blue sky, the green grass.
00:42:54.50\00:42:56.84
We're getting set up
early in the morning.
00:42:56.91\00:42:58.37
It was nice and cool out.
00:42:58.41\00:42:59.74
But we were setting up
the equipment getting ready.
00:42:59.77\00:43:02.38
You can see our trucks
that we have set right up,
00:43:02.44\00:43:05.28
right outside here.
00:43:05.31\00:43:06.65
And there's some of the Learning
Time; first timers coming here
00:43:06.68\00:43:09.78
to do the
Learning Time programming.
00:43:09.82\00:43:11.92
And we've got some of the crew
here setting up our 40 foot jib.
00:43:11.95\00:43:16.73
Yep. So that gets some really
neat shots flying in high.
00:43:16.76\00:43:20.90
And there's Miss Brenda and
Tyler, Brad's son, and those...
00:43:20.96\00:43:25.07
Each person that comes to
Learning Time here to tape
00:43:25.10\00:43:27.34
gets a free flier Frisbee.
00:43:27.37\00:43:30.67
And they had a lot of fun.
00:43:30.71\00:43:32.04
Look at that. Boy, Miss Brenda,
I know you're now on the set
00:43:32.07\00:43:34.44
with us here as this video
is rolling, but you're having a
00:43:34.48\00:43:37.18
lot of fun throwing
those Frisbee's as well.
00:43:37.21\00:43:39.21
Well, actually, I'm not
the athletic one in the family.
00:43:39.25\00:43:41.58
Cinda and Linda, my
sisters, are much better at it.
00:43:41.62\00:43:43.89
So I told them to
throw challenging.
00:43:43.92\00:43:45.92
Look at those kids!
00:43:45.95\00:43:47.29
Aren't they precious?
00:43:47.32\00:43:48.66
Yes, wonderful
smiles on their faces.
00:43:48.69\00:43:50.03
Wonderful smiles. I think that
all the kids were smiling today.
00:43:50.06\00:43:52.46
No rain! No rain, that's right.
00:43:52.49\00:43:54.80
And not too hot. Even
in the shade it wasn't bad.
00:43:54.83\00:43:56.56
In the sun a little warm.
00:43:56.60\00:43:58.03
It wasn't bad at all, so...
00:43:58.07\00:43:59.43
And do you know none of
the kids complained. No?
00:43:59.47\00:44:02.54
Not one complained.
00:44:02.57\00:44:04.01
They were just excited
to be a part of the program,
00:44:04.07\00:44:07.34
and they were just
excited to be here at Camporee.
00:44:07.38\00:44:12.48
And they really, they just had
great attitudes, great spirit.
00:44:12.51\00:44:16.58
They were
really, really precious,
00:44:16.62\00:44:18.65
and we had a good time.
00:44:18.72\00:44:20.49
Amen. You know we shot just a
little bit of footage there of
00:44:20.52\00:44:22.62
Ben, where you can see
him there in the yellow shirt.
00:44:22.66\00:44:24.36
Miss Brenda, tell us a
little bit about Ben Roy;
00:44:24.39\00:44:26.13
what a blessing
he has been with you.
00:44:26.16\00:44:27.50
Oh, Ben Roy is a
tremendous blessing.
00:44:27.53\00:44:29.26
He's actually been with me from
the very beginning of Kids Time.
00:44:29.30\00:44:32.67
Going on 15 years.
Can you imagine? Wow!
00:44:32.70\00:44:35.54
And this man, I have so
much love and respect for him.
00:44:35.57\00:44:38.47
He loves kids. Yeah.
00:44:38.51\00:44:40.71
He loves learning.
00:44:40.74\00:44:42.08
And kids love Ben
Roy. Yes, they do.
00:44:42.11\00:44:43.51
But, you know, kids know when
you love them. That's right.
00:44:43.55\00:44:46.08
They respond to love.
00:44:46.11\00:44:47.45
And they know who
loves them and who doesn't.
00:44:47.48\00:44:49.02
And they really respond to him.
00:44:49.05\00:44:50.75
And he's got
such a gentle nature.
00:44:50.79\00:44:52.32
He has a way of just explaining
things so neatly, and just very
00:44:52.35\00:44:57.96
very... There you can see.
00:44:57.99\00:45:00.23
Yeah! They were
excited, weren't they?
00:45:00.26\00:45:02.46
They were! And he has
such, Ben Roy has just really...
00:45:02.50\00:45:07.10
He travels the globe.
00:45:07.14\00:45:08.47
Kid's Time's kind of put him
on the map, because now he's in
00:45:08.50\00:45:12.17
demand all over the world,
because of kids that have seen
00:45:12.21\00:45:16.64
him on Kids Time
all over the world.
00:45:16.68\00:45:18.35
And I have just so
much respect for him.
00:45:18.38\00:45:20.25
He has amazing knowledge
of science. Yes, he does.
00:45:20.28\00:45:23.39
He can make the most tiniest
little thing look interesting.
00:45:23.42\00:45:27.42
And then have your mind
wonder, How did he do that?
00:45:27.46\00:45:31.33
How did that work?
How did he do that?
00:45:31.36\00:45:33.26
And so he can take the
simplest thing and make it fun,
00:45:33.29\00:45:35.96
and fun to learn about science.
00:45:36.00\00:45:38.03
And I love how he ties in
a Spiritual message with his
00:45:38.07\00:45:41.94
programs, and I like his ending.
00:45:41.97\00:45:44.21
He goes, Whenever you learn
more about science you learn
00:45:44.24\00:45:46.91
more about our Creator, God.
00:45:46.94\00:45:49.68
A Wow! Well, he is really a
absolute genius in this area,
00:45:49.71\00:45:55.75
and able yet to transport that
to young people in such a way
00:45:55.78\00:46:01.66
that it's not boring, its
interesting. Exactly, exactly.
00:46:01.69\00:46:04.89
And so we just
think a lot of Ben Roy.
00:46:04.93\00:46:08.03
And he's been so dedicated
to the Kids Time ministry. Yeah.
00:46:08.06\00:46:12.00
He even wears his Kids
Time Tee Shirt when he goes out,
00:46:12.03\00:46:14.50
all out and about.
00:46:14.54\00:46:15.87
And that's wonderful for kids
to even learn; some that have
00:46:15.90\00:46:19.77
never had the chance to
even know what that is. Yes.
00:46:19.81\00:46:22.48
You know, you say, Oh,
what's Kids Time? when you're
00:46:22.51\00:46:24.18
wearing that shirt.
00:46:24.21\00:46:25.55
So it's a wonderful
way to witness as well.
00:46:25.58\00:46:27.42
Well, it really is.
00:46:27.45\00:46:28.78
Well, another great day here.
00:46:28.82\00:46:31.29
Another great day. And we
had so much fun out there today.
00:46:31.32\00:46:35.49
We got four
programs taped. Amen!
00:46:35.52\00:46:39.23
And I think we have a roll that
we could play to show some of
00:46:39.26\00:46:43.10
the things that
we taped today. Okay.
00:46:43.13\00:46:44.87
Um, that we could...
00:46:44.90\00:46:46.23
Part of what we actually
just rolled, actually just now.
00:46:46.27\00:46:49.17
Oh, so we'll show the
rest tomorrow then. Okay?
00:46:49.20\00:46:52.57
Well, we have
some really fun times.
00:46:52.61\00:46:55.38
We had a lot of kids come from
different countries here today.
00:46:55.41\00:46:58.71
We had from
different parts of the country.
00:46:58.75\00:47:01.05
We had somebody from Columbia,
from Panama, from Barbados,
00:47:01.08\00:47:04.52
and I think there were kids
here from New Mexico, Virginias;
00:47:04.55\00:47:11.79
I mean all over, so they
really have a mix of kids.
00:47:11.83\00:47:14.66
And then I had a chance
to go back into the booth
00:47:14.70\00:47:18.17
this afternoon and greet
and meet a whole lot more,
00:47:18.20\00:47:20.87
and stir up a lot of interest
to get kids to come tomorrow.
00:47:20.90\00:47:24.21
Because we can't tape without
the kids. No, that's true.
00:47:24.24\00:47:26.98
So really kids are
excited about coming.
00:47:27.01\00:47:30.21
One little girl came up to me
and she says, I've wanted to be
00:47:30.25\00:47:33.25
on TV my whole life. Ha, ha, ha.
00:47:33.28\00:47:36.55
I think she was nine,
you know. Bless her heart!
00:47:36.58\00:47:39.55
Well, she does want to be on.
00:47:39.59\00:47:41.92
She wants to be on, and
they're going to be able.
00:47:41.96\00:47:43.53
Well, I said, Well you can be.
00:47:43.56\00:47:44.89
Could we get some
footage of her we could show?
00:47:44.93\00:47:46.43
Because that would
be great to show her.
00:47:46.46\00:47:48.46
It would be awesome.
00:47:48.50\00:47:49.83
Well, if she shows up tomorrow
night we'll make sure that we...
00:47:49.86\00:47:51.20
I'll get a little side
interview that we can show for
00:47:51.23\00:47:53.54
tomorrow night's program.
00:47:53.57\00:47:55.24
Alright, we'll put her on.
00:47:55.27\00:47:56.60
And also tomorrow
night we have Rich Agulara,
00:47:56.64\00:47:59.54
our new nature,
ranger guy on Kids Time.
00:47:59.57\00:48:04.15
So he's really amazing.
00:48:04.18\00:48:06.31
He travels all over the world,
and people are really going to
00:48:06.35\00:48:08.98
be interested in
hearing about him.
00:48:09.02\00:48:11.29
But I wanted to give
an update, if I could.
00:48:11.32\00:48:13.69
For those of you that saw us say
hello to Nori last night on the
00:48:13.72\00:48:19.79
program, I got a text from
Nori, and she said that she was
00:48:19.83\00:48:23.80
able to see us
talking about her.
00:48:23.83\00:48:25.53
And when you started to
pray for her, Pastor Gilley,
00:48:25.57\00:48:28.30
she said her
nurse was in the room.
00:48:28.34\00:48:30.61
And they were all
crying, even her nurse.
00:48:30.67\00:48:32.97
That touched her nurse's heart
so much that you prayed for her.
00:48:33.01\00:48:36.04
Wow! So I was really, I thought
that the viewers would like to
00:48:36.08\00:48:39.71
know that Nori did get to hear
your message, and the prayer.
00:48:39.75\00:48:42.92
Well, I did request
the prayer, but actually
00:48:42.95\00:48:45.09
Greg did the praying.
00:48:45.12\00:48:46.45
That's right, that's right!
00:48:46.49\00:48:48.12
But we're all
praying for Nori's recovery.
00:48:48.16\00:48:50.59
We're all praying. We
really are. We're all praying.
00:48:50.63\00:48:53.16
And we believe that the
Lord's going to heal her,
00:48:53.19\00:48:56.67
and that she's going
to be restored to health.
00:48:56.70\00:49:00.24
You know, the Lord uses
a lot of different things.
00:49:00.27\00:49:02.54
Yes He does. And I think that
if she follows the regimen the
00:49:02.57\00:49:07.34
physicians have outlined,
and then with the healing power
00:49:07.38\00:49:10.55
of the Lord, I
believe that she's going to be
00:49:10.58\00:49:13.58
right back in there.
00:49:13.62\00:49:14.98
She's one special girl
alright. Oh, yeah, she is.
00:49:15.02\00:49:16.99
Also last night's program was a
result of, so many people heard
00:49:17.02\00:49:20.39
us talking about our Kids
Network, and they have sent
00:49:20.42\00:49:23.83
some donations in. So
I said, Praise the Lord!
00:49:23.86\00:49:26.86
And don't stop! No, no!
00:49:26.90\00:49:28.96
Because we still need a
lot to finish this network.
00:49:29.00\00:49:32.10
We need to finish
our Kids Time Network.
00:49:32.13\00:49:34.14
I mean our Kids Network.
00:49:34.17\00:49:35.50
I'm so used to Kids Time,
but its 3ABN Kids Network.
00:49:35.54\00:49:38.41
We need to get this going now.
00:49:38.44\00:49:40.01
We don't need to
wait five years from now.
00:49:40.04\00:49:41.74
Jesus is coming soon.
00:49:41.78\00:49:43.21
We need to do something
for our children right now.
00:49:43.24\00:49:45.61
And really that's...
00:49:45.65\00:49:46.98
Well, we actually...
00:49:47.02\00:49:48.35
We could be moved in
a year if we could get
00:49:48.38\00:49:50.89
building right away.
00:49:50.92\00:49:52.25
And we do actually have
the Kids Network going. Yes.
00:49:52.29\00:49:55.42
Please don't think it's not.
00:49:55.46\00:49:56.96
It is going. It's doing...
but we want a new studio.
00:49:56.99\00:49:59.16
The Kids Network. We
need our new studios.
00:49:59.23\00:50:01.70
Yeah, that's
right. That's right.
00:50:01.73\00:50:03.30
And we're not
going to quit taping.
00:50:03.33\00:50:04.90
We're taping here even.
00:50:04.93\00:50:06.27
And we'll keep taping,
but it will go so much better,
00:50:06.30\00:50:09.67
so much faster, and so
much more efficient when we have
00:50:09.70\00:50:13.14
the studio down in
the Collegedale area.
00:50:13.17\00:50:16.34
Especially because we
need so many programs.
00:50:16.38\00:50:19.11
We need over a thousand programs
every month just to provide
00:50:19.15\00:50:24.15
really quality
twenty-four seven programming.
00:50:24.19\00:50:26.02
That's what I was just going to
say, because most people don't
00:50:26.05\00:50:27.46
realize what it takes to do
a twenty-four seven network.
00:50:27.49\00:50:31.13
Exactly. That's a
lot of programming.
00:50:31.16\00:50:32.59
and that will be the beautiful
thing of having that studio,
00:50:32.63\00:50:35.03
because all the programming
out of there will be for kids.
00:50:35.06\00:50:37.60
That's right. And that
will be the beautiful thing
00:50:37.63\00:50:39.43
of having that studio.
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And I love getting
your ideas for programs.
00:50:40.84\00:50:43.37
I've gotten some really
wonderful ideas to produce
00:50:43.41\00:50:48.34
programs that
people would like to see.
00:50:48.38\00:50:49.78
I like to hear from the parents
as well, and the school teachers
00:50:49.81\00:50:53.21
that say, Wow! I wish we
could have a program on this,
00:50:53.25\00:50:55.48
and this, and this.
00:50:55.52\00:50:56.85
And this is the time to give
me those ideas, because we're in
00:50:56.89\00:50:59.05
program development right now.
00:50:59.09\00:51:00.82
So I'm really
excited about that.
00:51:00.86\00:51:02.92
We've got a program I'm working
on of having children have
00:51:02.96\00:51:06.96
little sermonettes.
00:51:07.00\00:51:08.33
And I think that's
going to be awesome.
00:51:08.36\00:51:09.70
Oh, I do too. I think there are
a lot of kids that will respond
00:51:09.73\00:51:13.70
to that, and I think
you're going to be amazed at
00:51:13.74\00:51:16.04
some of their
messages. Yes. I really do.
00:51:16.07\00:51:18.34
Cause kids love to...
00:51:18.37\00:51:19.71
I had guys come by the
booth today that told me,
00:51:20.41\00:51:22.58
they said,
We're preachers. Yeah!
00:51:22.61\00:51:24.58
And I said, Have you preached
anywhere? Well, Yes, Ma'am!
00:51:24.61\00:51:27.15
And they said they've
preached in their church,
00:51:27.18\00:51:29.28
and they said,
Well, I preach at school.
00:51:29.32\00:51:31.92
That's right. That's right. Wow!
00:51:31.95\00:51:34.22
Well, they're there.
00:51:34.26\00:51:35.59
And people love to hear, and
are blessed by those messages.
00:51:35.62\00:51:39.76
They really are. They are.
00:51:39.79\00:51:41.13
We also want to have some
programs for parents. Yeah.
00:51:41.16\00:51:43.70
Because our parents
need parenting tips.
00:51:43.77\00:51:47.20
Let's face it, it's getting
harder and harder to raise
00:51:47.24\00:51:50.54
kids in today's world, because
the Devil's really, really
00:51:50.57\00:51:55.31
fighting hard to
steal the hearts and
00:51:55.34\00:51:56.88
minds of our children.
00:51:56.91\00:51:58.25
So it's getting more and more
difficult for parents to know
00:51:58.28\00:52:01.82
how to even
raise their children.
00:52:01.88\00:52:03.45
And I've had parents say to me,
Should I remove the electronics
00:52:03.49\00:52:07.12
from the home? or is it
better to train them how to
00:52:07.16\00:52:10.49
make the best choices?
00:52:10.53\00:52:11.86
Yeah, and that's
the best way to go.
00:52:11.89\00:52:13.50
Electronics are not the problem,
it's the choices we make.
00:52:13.53\00:52:16.36
You know, Camille and I,
the Lord let us raise four.
00:52:16.40\00:52:20.04
And one of the things we found,
we had a what we called an
00:52:20.07\00:52:24.41
in-line key switch.
00:52:24.44\00:52:25.77
It was a switch that I could
switch off, and therefore the
00:52:25.81\00:52:30.85
power was cut to the television.
00:52:30.88\00:52:33.31
That's great! And then we
got one of the early recorders.
00:52:33.35\00:52:38.45
So the kids would come home
and they'd say, Listen, this is
00:52:38.49\00:52:40.56
going to be on, and every
kid in school's going to see it,
00:52:40.59\00:52:43.86
and we haven't seen it.
00:52:43.89\00:52:45.49
And I said,
Okay, we'll record it.
00:52:45.53\00:52:47.60
And then Saturday night if
this is a worthwhile program,
00:52:47.63\00:52:50.90
we will get some popcorn,
and we'll sit down and we'll
00:52:50.93\00:52:54.17
watch it Saturday night.
00:52:54.20\00:52:55.54
But we'll record it tonight.
00:52:55.57\00:52:56.91
Because you're
going to study tonight.
00:52:56.94\00:52:58.47
You're doing your studies.
00:52:58.51\00:52:59.84
And you know, the amazing thing?
00:52:59.87\00:53:01.74
I don't know how many times
that by the time Saturday night
00:53:01.78\00:53:05.18
came around they'd say,
Awe, we don't want to see that.
00:53:05.21\00:53:06.82
We heard all about it,
and it wasn't any good anyway.
00:53:06.85\00:53:09.08
But this avoided a battle,
I'd say, because they knew
00:53:09.12\00:53:16.29
that it would be taped.
00:53:16.32\00:53:17.96
They weren't
going to miss something.
00:53:17.99\00:53:19.36
I think that was
an awesome idea. Yeah.
00:53:19.39\00:53:20.73
And so it was worth
getting one of the early
00:53:20.76\00:53:24.97
video tape recorders.
00:53:25.03\00:53:26.43
In fact the old reel to
reel to start with my kids.
00:53:26.47\00:53:29.64
Then we went to VHS, and then
on to Bata and the whole bit.
00:53:29.67\00:53:34.48
But folks, work with
your kids. That's right.
00:53:34.51\00:53:38.15
I'm not going to tell you how to
raise kids, but my kids knew the
00:53:38.18\00:53:42.25
answer was yes,
whatever they wanted to do,
00:53:42.28\00:53:45.55
unless there was a good reason.
00:53:45.59\00:53:47.46
And if I had a good
reason, and I said no,
00:53:47.49\00:53:51.39
they did honestly
question the reason.
00:53:51.43\00:53:53.29
I wouldn't... I'd say, I'm
not going to give you an answer.
00:53:53.33\00:53:55.23
I'm just telling
you no right now.
00:53:55.26\00:53:56.90
Sometimes I'd
tell them the reason.
00:53:56.93\00:53:58.50
But I don't feel
obligated as a parent to always
00:53:58.53\00:54:02.07
give them a reason.
00:54:02.10\00:54:03.44
But if they trust you,
and they know, that you know,
00:54:03.47\00:54:06.88
when Dad says no, it
must be a pretty good reason,
00:54:06.91\00:54:09.74
because he
usually always says yes.
00:54:09.78\00:54:11.71
Then I think that we
avoid a battle with our kids.
00:54:11.75\00:54:17.59
If you can avoid, if you
can discipline and love them,
00:54:17.62\00:54:20.76
and lead them without
battling them, you're going to.
00:54:20.79\00:54:25.33
And sometimes you just have
to put your arm around them...
00:54:25.36\00:54:28.80
And say no! Right, and if they
give you a rough time you have
00:54:28.83\00:54:32.23
to wrestle them a little
bit, you know, but in love.
00:54:32.27\00:54:34.87
In our home, if it wasn't going
to bring us closer to Jesus,
00:54:34.90\00:54:37.31
it wasn't going to happen.
00:54:37.34\00:54:38.87
So that was the criteria.
00:54:38.91\00:54:40.38
Is this going to
bring you closer to Jesus?
00:54:40.41\00:54:42.08
If we wanted to do anything,
was this going to bring
00:54:42.11\00:54:44.21
you closer to Jesus?
00:54:44.25\00:54:45.58
And if we couldn't...
00:54:45.61\00:54:46.95
But I tell you, I got
pretty creative about how things
00:54:46.98\00:54:48.32
were going to be
getting me closer to Jesus.
00:54:48.35\00:54:50.22
Yeah, me too! That yogurt's
going make me closer, right?
00:54:50.25\00:54:54.69
Right, yeah. But listen, Pastor,
I was wondering if I could ask
00:54:54.72\00:54:57.69
our viewers; we're getting
ready to tape our Bible Stories
00:54:57.73\00:55:00.76
in October, and I
have some real needs.
00:55:00.80\00:55:02.63
And I would like to take a
moment just to ask if there's
00:55:02.66\00:55:06.23
anybody out there that
has any acting ability at all,
00:55:06.30\00:55:09.17
that is interested in
acting in our Bible Stories;
00:55:09.20\00:55:12.04
we're taping them in
October, three weeks in October.
00:55:12.07\00:55:14.84
Go to my
website: brendawalsh. com
00:55:14.91\00:55:17.31
You can click on my schedule.
00:55:17.35\00:55:18.78
You'll see all the
exact dates that we're taping.
00:55:18.81\00:55:20.88
And if you can, my contact
information is there as well,
00:55:20.92\00:55:24.35
contact me and let me know
that you're willing to help me.
00:55:24.39\00:55:27.76
We are in desperate
need of some key parts,
00:55:27.79\00:55:30.36
and some supporting roles.
00:55:30.39\00:55:31.73
So I really need
some help with Story Time.
00:55:31.76\00:55:35.66
So I'd appreciate it.
00:55:35.70\00:55:37.03
It's a blessing, isn't it,
Miss Brenda, to work with young
00:55:37.07\00:55:39.33
people? Amen! For
young people to know Jesus.
00:55:39.40\00:55:41.97
That's the key. Amen!
00:55:42.00\00:55:43.34
And you know, and this
is a special time in the
00:55:43.37\00:55:44.71
evening here at Oshkosh.
00:55:44.74\00:55:46.07
At this time of night
there are thousands of people,
00:55:46.11\00:55:48.64
and I want to ask the
crew quickly, we have just
00:55:48.68\00:55:51.31
basically a minute left.
00:55:51.38\00:55:52.71
Just a few seconds
of what's happening.
00:55:52.75\00:55:54.08
And this is some shots of
last night going into the crowd.
00:55:54.12\00:55:56.75
It absolutely amazes me, because
we had about 50,000 young people
00:55:56.79\00:56:01.59
that were showing up
for the main evening meeting
00:56:01.62\00:56:04.53
session at Oshkosh.
00:56:04.56\00:56:05.89
And so some of the footage,
we may not be quite able to
00:56:05.93\00:56:08.26
share it with you right
now, but we will tomorrow night.
00:56:08.30\00:56:10.67
There's some right now.
00:56:10.70\00:56:12.03
This was of last night.
00:56:12.07\00:56:13.40
All of the young people
streaming in, and this is a
00:56:13.44\00:56:14.90
very special time in the
evening, because this is when
00:56:14.94\00:56:17.04
they all get together, and
they're learning again about
00:56:17.07\00:56:19.11
the story of Daniel.
00:56:19.14\00:56:20.48
Look at all those
young people out there.
00:56:20.51\00:56:21.84
And we're praying for...
00:56:21.88\00:56:23.21
Look at that! Amazing shots
of those young people coming
00:56:23.24\00:56:25.61
in for the evening meeting.
00:56:25.65\00:56:26.98
And that's what's happening
about right now there at the
00:56:27.02\00:56:30.49
main stage there at Oshkosh.
00:56:30.52\00:56:32.19
Is that Daniel or the lion?
00:56:32.22\00:56:33.56
I don't know. But, anyway I
want to say, Thank you so much
00:56:33.59\00:56:36.73
Miss Brenda, so much for
your work with the young people.
00:56:36.76\00:56:39.63
Many of these have seen
Kids Time, and I know have been
00:56:39.66\00:56:43.43
blessed because of your love
of Jesus, and wanted to share
00:56:43.47\00:56:46.90
that with others.
Praise the Lord! Amen!
00:56:46.94\00:56:49.14
And tonight as we go on and
leave you, we leave you with
00:56:49.17\00:56:53.98
these scenes, and we
just, keep praying for 3ABN.
00:56:54.01\00:56:58.78
Keep praying for our ministry.
00:56:58.81\00:57:01.58
It is your prayers
and your financial support
00:57:01.62\00:57:04.45
that keeps us on the air.
00:57:04.52\00:57:07.06
Boy, that's for sure.
00:57:07.09\00:57:08.42
And we want to keep
witnessing for our Lord.
00:57:08.46\00:57:10.26
And we want you
to hold on to Jesus.
00:57:10.29\00:57:12.93
These are terrible
times in so many ways;
00:57:12.96\00:57:15.53
wonderful times as well.
00:57:15.56\00:57:17.83
But the Devil would like
to discourage every single one
00:57:17.87\00:57:21.54
of you to give up, so determine
that you're going to keep on
00:57:21.57\00:57:25.14
keeping on with Jesus.
00:57:25.17\00:57:26.84
He's our Lord, He's
our God, He's our Savior,
00:57:26.88\00:57:29.78
and He loves you.
00:57:29.81\00:57:31.15