Making Waves

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Program transcript

Participants: Jim Ayer

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Program Code: MW000069


00:01 The people in this village used to believe
00:03 in ancestor worship, they used to exhume
00:05 the dead bodies from the graves and
00:07 worship them and celebrate, but now
00:09 the whole village is changed because of
00:11 listening to one radio program, AWR.
00:49 Larger than California and Oregon combined,
00:51 Madagascar is the world's fourth largest
00:53 island after Greenland, New Guinea and Borneo.
00:57 The residents of Madagascar,
00:58 the Malagasy have unusual origins as
01:01 reflected by their mixed traditions and
01:03 cultural practices. The Malagasy speak a
01:06 language native to the distinct country of
01:08 Borneo and observe some distinctively
01:10 south East Asian religious practices.
01:18 The residents have used trains for freight
01:20 hauling and transportation since colonial times,
01:23 but today there's only handful still in operation.
01:27 On our way to meet with our listeners,
01:29 we had to speak with a Church member
01:30 who worked at the train station,
01:32 so we decided to check things out.
01:38 How many trains are like this in the world?
01:41 Many, many, but after it's out fashioned
01:45 maybe then they gave up to produce like this.
01:50 All went out of service. Yes, yes, here, here.
01:54 I understand what there is one
01:55 in the French museum? One in the French museum,
01:58 one here and one in the North, but it's not,
02:01 it doesn't work in the North.
02:06 This is the only one that works
02:08 in all over the world now. Yes, the one yes.
02:10 Wow, what year was this, this one made?
02:14 In 1940, 19 like this. Is it okay to look up inside?
02:20 Yes, no problem, you can go
02:23 over here. Over here, okay.
02:38 Oh this is beautiful; this is the way
02:42 it's been for years. Oh yes.
02:46 Look at all the bamboo, I bet you get
02:49 a lot of train buffs or people who love
02:52 trains from around the world who want to
02:54 come here to see this train.
02:56 Yes, many people from New York,
03:01 even from America come here to
03:05 see this kind of train. Now does it still run,
03:10 do you still run it on the tracks? Yes.
03:13 Is this a diesel? Yes, diesel.
03:20 What a beautiful train from a bygone era,
03:23 the handwoven bamboo, the seats themselves
03:28 they're not fixed position, people can
03:29 move them around, the intricate design of
03:32 the bamboo itself, I can just imagine from
03:36 this bygone era as the people sat and
03:38 watched the beautiful scenery go by,
03:41 on their destination perhaps to the tea
03:43 plantation or further, but light conversation,
03:48 maybe even who knows a chicken or
03:49 two run in the isles you never know.
03:52 But here today, it's one of the only ones
03:54 left in existence, one in a museum in
03:57 France, but this one still operates,
04:00 what a beautiful piece out of time.
04:07 Well I don't know exactly where we
04:08 were going to head, but we are going to
04:09 head somewhere, if you ever ride in this
04:11 old train here in Madagascar,
04:14 hope he blows the whistle,
04:17 well see what kind of engineer
04:19 he is and wagon hang on.
04:30 The train bus that ride from Fianarantsoa
04:32 to Mancora, is an experience
04:33 not to be missed. This spectacular route
04:37 This spectacular route which is also one of
04:38 the steepest in the world, links the
04:39 highland city of Fianarantsoa with the
04:42 east coast town of Mancora crossing
04:44 through 67 bridges and 48 tunnels.
04:48 It offers some magnificent views as
04:50 it descends the escarpment to the east.
04:53 Closed for a time then reopened, big efforts
04:56 are being made to restore the rail and
04:58 make the journey an indisputable tourist
05:00 attraction for the entire region,
05:02 nevertheless if you would like to embark
05:05 on this adventure, take plenty of time,
05:07 since the ride with a speed of 25 to 35
05:09 kilometers per hour takes 8 to
05:12 12 hours to make the trip.
05:16 We traveled for hours to reach this village,
05:19 put down a lot of four wheeling but this was
05:21 very different with no phones or electricity
05:24 we traveled fast than we were coming,
05:27 much faster than we were going.
05:32 It's so exciting to be here in your village
05:34 and meet with you today.
05:35 I understand you began listening to
05:36 AWR, but before we talk about that,
05:40 please tell me about your villages it's beautiful.
05:44 During the day we go to the field to take
05:46 care of our vegetable, and then in the
05:48 afternoon we come home and we listen to
05:51 the Adventist World Radio. We raise the volume
05:53 of the radio programs, so that people around
05:55 us can hear the programs.
05:57 Oh, as you turn the radio up,
05:59 so everybody could listen.
06:01 So what type of vegetables and crops do you raise?
06:06 We grow sweet potatoes, cassava,
06:09 maize, rice and beans.
06:12 Do you have cattle and goats also?
06:17 Owing cows depend on a person's faith,
06:20 some people won't keep cows, but I have
06:23 cows and chickens because I was
06:25 convinced of the Bible's truth.
06:27 I understand some people here don't
06:29 want to have certain types of animals, because
06:32 they're superstitious, is that true?
06:38 There are many taboos in our cultures
06:40 but for the people who have listened to
06:42 the Adventist World Radio;
06:44 there are no more taboos.
06:48 Men, women, boys and girls, everyone
06:50 is listening to Adventist World Radio from
06:52 Cairo and the great Pyramids,
06:57 to the barren lands of Ethiopia,
07:02 from the vast plains of Kenya
07:04 and the Maasai lands of Serengeti
07:08 to the slopes of Mount of Kilimanjaro.
07:12 All the way here to the exotic
07:14 shores of Zanzibar and beyond.
07:18 AWR is frontline mission radio.
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08:21 While we're here in the Ambalavao market,
08:23 it's just getting started, it's still early
08:25 morning but soon this will be the biggest
08:27 market in all of Madagascar.
08:30 People are kind of preparing their wares,
08:32 presentation as they is everything and so
08:34 they are getting everything looking
08:36 just perfect. It's a wonderful place
08:39 ladies with their raffia hats, many of the men
08:42 with their sa-wrapies, or I don't know what
08:45 you call them here actually but they look
08:47 beautiful, they kind of get a kick out of us
08:51 walking through the market because they
08:52 don't get to see too many people that
08:55 from other countries and other areas,
08:57 they've got their wood or kindling for
08:59 starting fires, unfortunately this area
09:02 in the Central Plateau once was heavily
09:05 forested but they've cut all of the trees
09:07 now, and this area gets a lot of rain,
09:11 a lot of cyclones, little of everything.
09:13 So, now it seems like this is some of only
09:16 wood that's left, okay let's check out
09:20 some more of the market.
09:24 Early in the morning, villagers gather up
09:26 their goods and walk to the market,
09:28 during this procession you will see almost
09:30 anything and everything being
09:32 carried on their backs. If they're lucky they
09:34 may have a homemade wagon or
09:36 cart to bear the burden. They may travel
09:38 many miles winding their way to the
09:40 central market, once they arrive, some are
09:43 fortunate to have tables while others
09:45 spread a cloth on the ground to display
09:47 their goods. Most have very little to
09:49 sell but for many it is their only way to
09:52 obtain hard currency with which
09:53 to buy the other necessities of life.
09:57 You need to come check out this lady
09:58 over here, she is doing a string leaf and
10:00 she is slicing everyone just so perfectly,
10:03 it's incredible, French, her French cut beans.
10:11 I love to visit the markets no matter where I am?
10:14 They're the heartbeat of the people you
10:16 become immersed in the middle of the
10:18 smells, the sights, the sounds and the culture
10:20 of the residents as in no other way.
10:23 The markets have a variety of everything
10:25 from fruits, vegetables, fish, meat, spices and
10:29 other food items and you can check out the
10:31 clothes, shoes, soaps, car parts and in some
10:34 cases you will discover things that
10:36 may leave you almost mystified.
10:39 Well when you're a kid and you went out
10:40 and ate dirt, that's actually what this is,
10:42 it's clay but they say its rich in calcium and
10:45 other minerals, so they sell it here at the
10:47 market in order to eat to, to give
10:49 you your daily supplement.
11:05 Everything in life needed to survive
11:07 happens by the sweat of the brow
11:09 through the work of their hands.
11:12 It's amazing it's almost like the
11:13 children of Israel making their bricks
11:15 out of mud, phenomenal to think
11:17 that they last so long too.
11:24 Malagasy culture reflects a blend of
11:26 South East Asian, Arab, African and
11:28 European influences, houses in Madagascar
11:32 are typically four sided with a peaked roof,
11:34 in a style commonly seen in South East Asia.
11:38 As in Asia rice forms the bases of every
11:41 meal, large portions of farm are dedicated
11:44 to growing rice, it is a common site along
11:47 the road to see mats spread out on the
11:49 ground with rice drying in the sun.
11:51 Off to the side you'll see the modern pestle,
11:54 often in the hands of children pounding the
11:56 rice to remove the husks. Squatting over the
11:59 drying rice they carefully pick out the
12:01 stones and other large objects.
12:05 Many villages lack electricity, much less
12:07 phone service, to know what is
12:09 happening in the rest of the world they
12:11 often rely on solar power radios.
12:14 We often hear Malagasy listeners
12:16 say they stumbled on the voice of Hope broadcast.
12:20 AWR program producers strategically place
12:22 information on farming and ways to
12:25 stay healthy in each program.
12:27 This gains the confidence of the
12:29 listeners while giving them important and
12:31 practical information for their daily life,
12:35 then they hear the word of God,
12:37 information for their eternal life,
12:39 this format has proven successful all over the
12:42 world in winning souls to Christ.
12:45 Could you elaborate a little more for me on
12:47 some of the superstitions of the
12:48 people that live in theses areas?
12:55 People here are very different from one
12:57 and other, some go to church others worship
13:00 ancestors, some don't believe in anything,
13:03 and don't follow God or worship anything,
13:07 and some people still practice exhumation.
13:11 What is practicing exhumation and
13:13 ancestor worship, how does that work?
13:20 They don't believe in the real God,
13:23 so that's why they worship
13:24 other things like the ancestors.
13:28 How do you, how do you, someone go
13:30 about worshiping ancestors,
13:31 what is that involved? Not that you are doing
13:33 but I'm just curious of what that involves?
13:39 As I understand it the people worship their
13:42 ancestors because they believe that their
13:44 dead are saints, but according
13:47 to the Bible that is not true.
13:50 And what is exhumation?
13:53 Exhumation is when people wrap up the
13:56 dead in new clothes, there's a great festival
13:59 and people celebrate by dancing and eating.
14:02 So you open the grave up, take the bodies out.
14:09 Yes, they even take their bones out.
14:11 And what's the purpose of that?
14:17 It is collected to be ancestors themselves,
14:19 because the land belong to them before.
14:22 So when for example, you grow something
14:25 you need the blessing of the ancestors.
14:28 And what time of year is this festival take place?
14:32 In August. Is there any reason
14:35 that takes place in that particular month?
14:38 In August the land is dry and people have
14:41 everything, because it is after the harvest.
14:45 Now did you ever practice this at one time?
14:49 We did before when we were Christians.
14:52 What happens if there was a bad crop and a
14:54 bad year, does that mean
14:55 the ancestor didn't bless you?
15:00 Our overall view is that the dead cannot
15:02 bless, only Jesus can bless us.
15:05 But you said you used to do that,
15:07 and you no longer do, how come?
15:12 It was the Christian faith, through AWR
15:15 that made us stop practicing the exhumation.
15:21 It seems that the entire mountain site
15:22 has many little caverns many nooks
15:24 and crannies, and then many of those they
15:26 wall them up because they become the
15:28 tombs of family member. Some of these tombs
15:30 have as many as forty people in them.
15:37 Right behind me here is a king who died
15:39 about 300 years ago, they've put his bones
15:41 up there, they commemorate with an
15:43 oxen because apparently he had a
15:45 lot of his own oxen, I'm told they've since
15:47 moved his bones however so they no
15:49 longer come here to worship.
15:52 Traditionally the Malagasy hold their ancestors in
15:54 high esteem, and many believe their
15:57 relatives continue to intervene in events on
16:00 earth after their death. A powerful individual
16:03 may establish a Fady or a taboo in his or
16:06 her lifetime. All the descendents
16:08 and community members will be
16:10 required to respect the taboo
16:12 well after their death. What does this mean
16:15 for the traveler, it means you need to
16:17 seek advice from the village elder or
16:19 authorities to discover what the local Fady or
16:21 taboo maybe, so you don't inadvertently
16:24 transgress and offend the local population,
16:28 not a good idea especially
16:30 in some areas of the country.
16:32 In the 19th century under Queen Ranavalona I,
16:36 there was infamous persecution and mass
16:38 extermination of Christians.
16:41 Ranavalona I was a Merina queen of
16:43 Madagascar, over the course of her reign
16:45 and after it, she was referred to by western
16:48 scholars as the modern Messalina,
16:51 the bloody Mary of Madagascar.
16:53 Ranavalona's objections to Christianity were
16:56 generally based on her antagonism to the
16:58 Christians behavior. They prayed
17:00 frequently but refused to pray to her idols,
17:04 they shunned fornication, they assembled repeatedly
17:06 for worship. Her attempts to
17:09 annihilate Christianity are typically cited as
17:11 testimonials to the fervency of that faith
17:14 as its adherents refused to recant even
17:17 under extreme torture and death.
17:20 Ranavalona was a violent persecutor of
17:22 the native Christians after expelling the
17:24 alien missionaries, but she failed eradicate
17:27 Christianity from her island.
17:29 Today about 45 percent of the
17:31 Madagascar Christians divided almost evenly
17:34 between Catholics and Protestants.
17:37 Many incorporate the cult of the dead with
17:39 their other religious beliefs and bless their
17:42 dead at church before proceeding with the
17:44 traditional burial rights. They also may invite
17:47 a Christian ministry to attend the exhumation
17:49 service for the dead, many of our
17:52 Malagasy listeners believe in the strange
17:54 ritual until they accepted Christ,
17:57 now things are different.
17:59 You said that AWR changed all the
18:01 ancestor worship and exhumation but how
18:04 did you listen to the Adventist World Radio,
18:06 you're clear out here I don't see
18:07 any power or anything else?
18:11 There is no electricity here, but I was given
18:14 the solar radio from AWR,
18:17 I changed because AWR is preaching
18:19 the truth according to the Bible.
18:21 So how did you get the radio?
18:24 It was a gift from AWR. This was one of the
18:26 radios then that we worked with
18:28 government of Madagascar to get
18:30 people radios across the island, were you
18:33 one of the first people then to receive the
18:35 radio in this village? Once you received the
18:38 radio, and you began listening to the programs,
18:41 what did you think of the programs?
18:47 I think this radio programs are such a
18:50 great blessings for entire village, because
18:53 all of us gathered together to listen to the AWR.
18:57 So then are you what we call an AWR
19:00 listener group, and you're the leader?
19:03 Yes, I'm the leader. Tell me a little more
19:05 what does the leader do?
19:11 To encourage others to listen
19:13 and to follow the truth.
19:16 What's the favorite program or is there a
19:17 favorite program, because I know that
19:19 you have family programs and Bible
19:24 programs and music, is there something
19:26 that's kind of a favorite of everyone's?
19:31 The family programs are the most popular
19:34 here but we also enjoy the songs and preaching.
19:38 How has AWR changed your heart?
19:43 The Adventist World Radio convinced me
19:46 of the truth and encouraged
19:47 me to follow the true God.
19:50 From the time that the people in the village
19:52 began listening to the programs, do you see
19:55 a change in the hearts and the lives
19:57 of the people in the village?
20:01 People in this village show more respect for
20:04 one another since we began listening to
20:06 the radio and became Christians.
20:09 Now if you were able to tell people all over
20:12 the world why they should listen to the
20:14 AWR programs, what would you tell them?
20:20 I would tell people that they should
20:22 listen, so the gospel can be
20:24 shared throughout the world.
20:27 Would you mind showing me where
20:28 your home is? And how you gather
20:29 together to listen to the radio?
20:33 And thank you so much for sharing with me up here.
20:37 We're here and I love to see your home.
20:43 As you can see AWR is frontline mission radio.
20:47 Our first priority is to travel where
20:49 missionaries cannot go. We broadcast thousands
20:53 of hours each day in 70 major languages
20:56 of the world AWR has the capability
20:59 and capacity of blanketing almost
21:01 80 percent of the world's population
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21:25 Yes AWR is your mission radio,
21:29 no walls and no borders for AWR that
21:31 means changed lives and changed hearts
21:33 around the world because God is using
21:36 the airways of AWR to reach people everywhere.
21:43 Men, women, boys and girls, everyone
21:45 is listening to Adventist World Radio from
21:47 Cairo and the great Pyramids,
21:53 to the barren lands of Ethiopia,
21:58 from the vast plains of Kenya
22:00 and the Maasai lands of Serengeti
22:03 to the slopes of Mount of Kilimanjaro.
22:07 All the way here to the exotic
22:09 shores of Zanzibar and beyond.
22:13 One of the favorite things people like about
22:15 AWR is its stories. We have stories
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22:21 involved danger many of them involved
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22:28 I've written a little book of some of the
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23:08 That number again is 1-866-503-3531.
23:15 How long have you been
23:16 listening to the radio like this?
23:18 One year. And how big a,
23:20 how big a crowd do you usually gives?
23:24 200 people. You fit 200 people in here.
23:29 Yes, because there are
23:30 people who also sit up there.
23:32 Now, I see you put a little, is that
23:34 a solar panel up on your roof. Yes.
23:39 How long will that allow you to play the radio?
23:43 Once you tune it on; it will last
23:45 for around 4 to 5 hours.
23:48 So on, as soon as night comes you still
23:52 got 5 hours of listening time,
23:54 once you charged it? Yes.
23:57 You don't seem to have a church in this
23:59 area are you planning on other
24:01 church one of these days? Yes.
24:03 I know I can speak for all the AWR staff
24:05 around the world. We are so happy and
24:07 so excited for you and all of your people
24:10 here and we wish you God's blessings and
24:13 all that you're doing here.
24:16 Thank you very much for coming and all of
24:18 us here are grateful you have come
24:20 because we are all part of God's people.
24:23 Amen. Well I know, we came on very
24:25 short notice so I wanna thank you
24:27 today for allowing us to come and be
24:29 a part of your family here.
24:32 We are all pleased. It's a real privilege for
24:36 us to be here and to find people who are
24:38 worshiping the creator the God of the universe;
24:40 I look forward to being with all of you in heaven.
24:49 It's always exciting for me to see how
24:51 God is working to change lives
24:53 everywhere in the world. All people may have
24:56 different cultural beliefs,
24:57 be poor or richer, live in wood homes
25:00 or mud houses but around the world
25:03 the basics are the same everywhere,
25:05 they are hungering for peace,
25:06 stability and happiness, exactly what God
25:09 offers to every man woman and child on
25:12 planet earth. I love watching the
25:14 excitement of the children, the smiles of
25:17 the parents, and the joy of everyone when
25:19 we talk about what they have
25:21 discovered in the word of God.
25:23 Hunting over on the second floor of this
25:25 humble home was an absolute joy,
25:28 especially as I heard the 200 people
25:30 gathered in the court yard to listen to the
25:33 radio programs, from a radio give away
25:35 program that AWR spirit headed several
25:38 years ago, what a pay off imagine,
25:41 one radio reaching hundreds of villagers.
25:46 In this story today, we've seen a whole
25:49 village of people that were caught up into
25:51 witchcraft, dealings with the devil and Satan.
25:55 Lot of people in the world today don't
25:56 think there is a devil. But when we see
25:58 these stories, we see that the devil is indeed real.
26:03 The realm of darkness is very evident,
26:06 but AWR's purpose is to bring people into
26:10 the light, the light of God's truth.
26:13 In Acts 26 verse 18 it says, I'm sending you
26:19 to these people to open their eyes and
26:22 turn them from darkness to light,
26:25 and from the power of Satin to God so that
26:28 they may receive forgiveness of sins
26:31 and a place among those who are
26:33 sanctified by faith in me. What an amazing
26:37 transformation, 200 people now in this
26:41 village have become followers of Jesus and
26:44 members of his church, but you know
26:47 there are still many people in many
26:49 places, who do not know about Jesus
26:52 Christ and the salvation he offers.
26:54 They are still in that realm of darkness,
26:57 your gift to AWR will help us to reach more
27:00 people around the world, and bring them
27:03 out of the realm of darkness into the
27:05 marvelous light of God's love and salvation.
27:09 This is just one example of AWR
27:12 listener groups around the world,
27:14 people gathering together, you heard
27:15 here that over 200 people gather on a
27:17 daily basis to listen to the God's message
27:20 spoken through the air ways of AWR.
27:23 I hope you'll join us, give us a call
27:26 1866-503-3531 or you can write to us 12501
27:32 Old Columbia Pike, Silver Spring,
27:34 Maryland 20904 or you can log on
27:38 www.awr.org. Thank you for watching,
27:43 please join us for another exciting
27:45 gospel adventure, because around the
27:46 world AWR is Making Waves.


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