Making Waves

Africa / Ex-witchdoctor

Three Angels Broadcasting Network

Program transcript

Participants: Jim Ayer

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Program Code: MW000053


00:01 It's a tail of a giraffe,
00:03 it was actually used by the very witch
00:04 doctor in this village at one time to speak
00:08 and commune with the evil spirits,
00:11 but today that man is a Christian in Jesus
00:13 Christ right here in this
00:15 Maasai Village, stay tuned.
00:50 It may not be in your dietary habits,
00:51 but some of the folks here love termites.
00:54 I'm told especially in during the rainy times
00:56 and they'll come out of their nest,
00:57 the winged ones especially they'll grab a
00:59 whole of those and still with wings poking
01:01 out of their mouth and they
01:02 say they taste like butter.
01:10 You know, I'm probably not going find
01:11 anything in this way. The best way
01:13 I'm told to, to really find termites in these
01:16 monster mounds is to pour quite a bit of water in,
01:18 put green grass down there,
01:20 let it set for a while and then watch the
01:21 termites come out. I bet you don't have the
01:25 kind of termite problem though that they
01:27 have out here in some of these areas,
01:28 can you imagine if a mound of termites like
01:31 this got in your home. Oh boy,
01:32 I tell you they take care of it in short order.
01:39 Africa, second only to Asian in size and
01:42 population. Covers over 20% of the earth
01:45 total land area. Almost 15% of the
01:48 world's human population lives on the African
01:51 continent. It consists of 53 countries including
01:55 Madagascar and various island groups.
01:59 Non-biblical scientist and Paleoanthropologist
02:02 regard Africa to be the oldest inhabited
02:04 territory on earth, and the origin of the
02:07 human species. From a biblical perspective
02:10 however, it is more likely that the present
02:13 region of Iran, Iraq, Israel, and even
02:16 Egypt were the cradle of civilization.
02:36 Beautiful ostriches, I mean it's,
02:39 it's pretty great to see them out here in
02:41 their inhabited. Earlier we passed an
02:45 ostrich farm where they raise meat I guess
02:48 in process ostrich meat, but it's sure nice
02:51 to just see them out here, God's creation there,
02:53 absolutely beautiful and they're huge.
03:02 Most people think of Africa in terms of
03:04 the largest zoo in the world,
03:06 where the animals run free and the visitors
03:08 are confined to safari vehicles.
03:11 It boasts the world's largest,
03:12 most diverse and most densely inhabited
03:15 free ranging animal population on the
03:17 planet with large wild carnivores like lions,
03:22 hyenas, leopards and cheetahs and herbivores
03:25 such as cape buffalo, deer of all kinds,
03:29 elephants, camels and giraffes all ranging
03:32 freely on mostly open non private plains.
03:42 Beyond the vast expansive grass covered
03:44 plains. The jungles are no less impressive.
03:48 They hold a tremendous variety of snakes,
03:50 primates, crocodiles, and amphibians.
04:10 As we view nature, it should cause us to
04:13 pause and take note. What is God really
04:16 like that he could create such diversity?
04:19 What grand mind could create a mighty
04:21 elephant and fashion a delicate flower.
04:24 Conceive of a comical monkey and think of
04:26 the stripes on a zebra and finish it off
04:29 with a grand sunset. Surely,
04:32 a God who loves us very much.
04:43 As you can see AWR is frontline mission
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05:43 Here's another story of hope
05:45 from Adventist World Radio.
05:47 Prabha was ready to take her own life.
05:50 She had two small children and was abandoned
05:53 by her husband. And because her family
05:55 was too poor to help, Prabha had nowhere
05:58 else to go. Overcome by disappointment and
06:01 grief she decided to commit suicide,
06:04 but that night she says, it was a great turning
06:06 point, while tuning her radio she stumbled
06:09 on a broadcast from Adventist World Radio.
06:13 Being a lifelong Hindu, she had never before
06:15 heard of a Christ who carried for her with a
06:18 new hope in her heart, Prabha decided to live
06:21 for God. So, she says, I'm sure I have a
06:23 job to do for the people who are
06:26 like me on the edge of death.
06:30 Adventist World Radio shares the hope
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06:36 in their own languages.
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07:18 What are all these things you have in front
07:20 of you today? What, what is this for?
07:23 And all of these other things that are
07:24 here today why, why are these here?
07:30 We brought these things here to show you what
07:32 we were and what we did before we became
07:35 Christians, but now we will never use
07:37 them because Jesus change our life.
07:40 So, you were a witch doctor then? Yes.
07:45 How many years were you a witch doctor?
07:48 I was a witch doctor many years.
07:50 And, and while you were a witch doctor?
07:52 What types of things that you do? What,
07:55 did you talk with the Gods, what did you do?
07:58 I lie and just made stuff up for most of
08:01 the time, it was all just a trick
08:04 to get things from people.
08:06 You did it for money?
08:07 I got a lot of money.
08:09 Did you become a rich man because
08:10 of using these things and tricking people in?
08:14 In the beginning I had a lot of money,
08:17 but after sometime I became poor again.
08:21 What types of payment did you usually
08:23 demand from the people that you supposedly
08:25 treated? What, what kind of money or whatever?
08:29 Both money, cows, and anything of value.
08:32 Both money and cows.
08:36 Yes, cows are very valuable.
08:38 Over, overall the time that you,
08:40 you practiced witchcraft. How many cows
08:42 do you think you, you took from people.
08:46 I can't remember how many,
08:48 but there was many, many cows.
08:50 In the Maasai culture, the cow is about the
08:53 most important thing there is.
08:54 So, you took, you, you bargained and took
08:58 the most important thing from these people.
09:01 Yes, that is right.
09:02 Which ended up meaning I guess then
09:04 that were you the most important person
09:06 in the whole village and the
09:07 whole area because of that.
09:11 Yes, I would just like my father before me.
09:13 He taught me everything I needed
09:15 to know about witchcraft.
09:17 So, your father was also a witch doctor?
09:20 Yes, he was. And was his father also?
09:25 Yes, he was also a witch doctor.
09:28 That's a long history of witch
09:30 doctors in, in your tribe.
09:32 Yes, that is true. Can you tell me on,
09:36 on this what? What was this use for?
09:39 I, I could, can you hear the thing,
09:40 what was it used for?
09:44 This is a calibus, sick people would come to
09:48 me to get cured. And I will talk to the
09:51 calibus and I would pretend it
09:54 told me about the illness.
09:57 And this one what about this one?
10:00 I used to keep my tobacco in that.
10:02 So you, you grew tobacco or just.
10:05 No. Just use tobacco. Yes, before I become
10:10 a Christian I used tobacco. And these.
10:14 Those are ornaments that witch
10:16 doctor hang from their ears.
10:18 But now as a Christian you took them off.
10:21 Of course. What, tell me about the
10:23 transformation, what changed, you're
10:26 no longer a witch doctor, what changed?
10:32 After many years as a witch doctor,
10:36 I realized there was no future in this practice.
10:39 Many people were deciding to join
10:41 Christianity and I lost many followers.
10:45 I was no longer as important in my village.
10:49 After that I heard the preachers word on the
10:53 radio, and I felt the truth in my heart
10:55 and then even he said to follow Jesus.
10:58 Now, that you no longer have a job as it were.
11:01 You know, getting money from people for
11:03 witchcraft. How do you survive? How do you live?
11:06 I am a farmer, I have cows and goat.
11:10 And I have children who work with me.
11:12 When we get crops from the farm,
11:15 we take them to the market and get money.
11:17 So, you saw there was a real difference
11:20 between those people who were living
11:21 Christianity and those who are
11:24 using this stuff like you were.
11:27 Yes, Sesu become Christian,
11:31 we have received many blessings.
11:33 God has blessed me, I have children,
11:37 cows, goats, and a large farm.
11:40 When God touched your life and you became
11:43 a Christian, you put all these things away.
11:46 Did you return any of the cows you'd taken
11:48 from other people because of witchcraft?
11:51 I could not give them back because all the cows die.
11:55 Oh, so. Those cows died, okay.
12:26 Wilderness, the intact undisturbed wild and
12:29 natural areas on earth. Wild life can be
12:33 found in all ego-systems, deserts,
12:35 rainforests, plains, and even the most developed
12:39 urban areas. The survival of one
12:42 species often comes in the death of another.
12:46 The wilderness is both beautiful and dangerous.
12:57 The people who live in and around these areas
13:00 are usually at the top of the food chain,
13:02 but not always. The domestication of
13:05 cattle and goats has enabled the people
13:07 to have a source of food, milk, and
13:09 clothing for millennium. The only thing more
13:12 important to survival then food is water.
13:24 The Maasai are semi-nomadic tribe
13:26 or ethnic group living in Kenya and
13:29 Northern Tanzania. Their lifestyles centers
13:32 on cattle, which are not only a primary source
13:35 of food, but also a major of a man's wealth.
13:38 The more cattle and children he has,
13:40 the more he has respected and the
13:42 more power he has within the group.
13:53 Resources in the bush are scarce,
13:54 so their homes are build of sticks,
13:56 straw and cow dung. They surround their
14:01 village with a fence of twisted branches
14:03 to keep out the lions and other predators.
14:06 You see, the protection of the cattle is far
14:09 more important than the protection of the
14:11 people. A Maasai myth says that God gave
14:15 all the cattle on earth to them.
14:17 So, rustling cattle from other tribes is just
14:19 reclaiming what is theirs, but this
14:22 practice is not as common as it once was.
14:28 Here we are on our way to Amboseli and
14:31 we have met these two young Maasai
14:35 herders with their cattle here.
14:37 And we have a radio and they're very
14:40 friendly with us and we're very happy to
14:42 get acquainted with them. We hope they
14:45 are listeners to AWR as well. Even though
14:48 they don't speak English and we don't
14:49 speak Maasai we're still
14:51 communicating through friendship.
14:54 And it's exciting Ben that we have so
14:55 many listeners in the Maasai people.
14:56 That's right, sure is. Your name is Joseph,
15:00 but I just wonder that doesn't seem
15:02 like a Maasai name.
15:04 Was your name always Joseph?
15:06 That is my Christian name.
15:08 What was your name before?
15:12 Kingi, yeah, Kingi, Kingi. My name was Kingi.
15:16 So, you changed your name when you
15:17 became a Christian, you got a new name?
15:20 I changed my name from Kingi
15:22 to Joseph when I was baptized.
15:25 Tell me, now that you look back on all this.
15:28 Do you see, really plainly how the devil
15:32 was working in your life before
15:33 you become a Christian?
15:36 Everyday I ask my God to forgive me for the
15:39 past, for when the devil was using me to deceive.
15:45 You're not alone, but he's a forgiving God,
15:47 same with me. You're now the,
15:50 the leader of your church congregation.
15:53 And God's used you in a mighty way.
15:57 Your wife, your dear wife is sitting here.
15:58 Now, was she with you in witchcraft.
16:03 Yes, I force her to assist me,
16:06 when I practice those things.
16:07 So, she didn't want to assist you,
16:09 you forced her to do it.
16:11 Yes, but ever since we receive Jesus together,
16:15 we both decide to leave those evil ways.
16:18 The Lord brought her the same time,
16:20 touched her heart, the same time as yours.
16:23 Yes, at the same time. So, she was very
16:26 happy then to get rid of all
16:28 this too at the same time.
16:31 She is very happy. May I ask your wife a
16:34 question? Please ask her anything.
16:37 Tell me your part of the story,
16:39 when you saw your husband thinking
16:41 about Jesus Christ, what did it mean to you?
16:45 After seeing my husband follow Jesus,
16:47 I felt the truth in my heart and
16:50 decided to join my husband.
16:53 So, now you're both a very
16:54 happy couple in the village?
16:56 Yes, we are happy. And now for both
16:59 of you, what does Jesus mean in
17:01 your lives? It was a decision from
17:05 our heart. Jesus is the truth.
17:25 When we arrived at this village,
17:27 there was a large gathering of Christians,
17:29 Catholics, Lutherans and Adventists,
17:31 all are praising God together, full of spirit
17:33 and excitement. Standing around the
17:35 outside were many non-Christian
17:37 Maasai curious at the sound of music.
17:48 They're very musical and their music
17:50 consist of rhythms provided by a chorus
17:52 of vocalists singing harmony while the songs
17:55 leaders sings the melody. The leader begins
17:57 by singing a line or a number of the song.
18:00 The group will respond with one unanimous
18:02 call and acknowledgment. The Maasai can't
18:05 sing without moving, neck movements,
18:07 jumping for joy all in a polyphonic
18:10 syncopation and praise of the Savior.
18:21 Engai is the name given to the Maasai God.
18:24 He was once a human who owned all the
18:26 cattle in the world, when the sky and
18:28 earth split he sent all the cattle down
18:30 from the sky along a long bark rope.
18:36 The Maasai people received all of these
18:37 cattle, when the jealous group of hunters
18:40 did not receive any cattle; they cut the
18:42 bark from the sky. This created a gap
18:44 between the heavens and the earth,
18:46 which stopped the flow of cattle to the
18:48 Maasai people. This leaves the Maasai
18:50 with the belief that cattle are a direct link
18:52 to Engai. And that he intended that all
18:55 cattle were for the Maasai. Looking after
18:58 the cattle is not just a means of survival
19:00 for them, but a holy occupation with a direct
19:03 link to their God. Each Maasai is sent a
19:08 guardian spirit at birth or so it's believed,
19:11 the guardian is sent to protect them and
19:13 ward off all danger until their death.
19:17 At death if the person was bad in life,
19:19 they're carried off to the desert with no
19:21 water and no cattle. If they were good person,
19:26 they're carried off to a land of
19:27 many cattle and plentiful pastures.
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20:38 Here is another story of hope
20:41 from Adventist World Radio.
20:43 My name is Benjamin Schoun,
20:44 president of Adventist of World Radio.
20:47 We've been amazed by God's work in
20:49 Afghanistan. Recently a relief worker told
20:52 me that many Afghanis have great interest
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21:21 I cling to in my sea of pain.
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21:40 This gentleman is a Christian,
21:41 not only that he's the head of his church,
21:43 but he wasn't always a Christian he was
21:45 a witch doctor. Today he's considered to
21:47 re-enact for us some of the things in
21:49 his Maasai village that he did as the witch
21:51 doctor. This lady acting as his wife,
21:54 this lady acting as the person that needs
21:57 the help. So, go ahead and
21:59 let see what you are do?
22:03 Central to the Maasai culture and village
22:05 life is the absolute belief in the witch
22:08 doctor who appearedly does shamanistic
22:10 healing, revelations and prophecies.
22:13 And ensure success in war,
22:15 on adequate land. They wanted to
22:17 demonstrate how the once evil witch
22:19 doctor took advantage of those who sought
22:22 his help. They wanted to make sure
22:24 we understood how the devil uses those
22:26 in the village possesed by him
22:28 to destroy the lives of everyone.
22:35 She pleads for her sick child,
22:37 but Joseph demands payment.
22:39 The Gods are telling me that your husband
22:41 must bring the cow by tomorrow or something
22:43 bad could happen. This is no idle threat.
22:48 Without the protection of God the devil can
22:50 inflict great harm on the villagers.
22:53 During his days as a witch doctor,
22:55 Joseph began to listen to the gospel
22:57 message of AWR. Shortly after he heard
23:00 the radio, two evangelist came to his village.
23:07 You're not wanted here says the witch doctor,
23:10 but God had been preparing his heart.
23:13 The evangelist respond, we do not come
23:16 to change your culture, but to bring the
23:18 word of God. We want to share the
23:20 true God with you, to save you from your
23:22 evil ways. Joseph listened to the
23:24 evangelist because they were saying the
23:27 same things he had been hearing on the radio.
23:31 The radio, the evangelists and the Bible
23:34 all have the same message of a God who
23:36 personally loved him. They removed the
23:38 old things of the devil from him and now
23:40 they tell him that God will clothe him with
23:42 eternal life. He no longer needs his gourd.
23:46 He no longer needs his necklace,
23:48 and now convinced. He removes his copper
23:50 earrings and soon removes his wife's
23:52 head band. God has spoken to him
23:55 and he has decided to follow.
24:10 Joseph no longer lives the life of a
24:12 man who talks with demons.
24:14 A man who cheats people out of their
24:16 livestock , no he is a transformed person,
24:20 when he heard the voice of God speaking
24:22 to him through the radio program and the
24:24 Evangelist; he answered and turned
24:26 his back on his former life.
24:30 You look at the devil, he always wants to
24:32 take you down, down, down.
24:34 God really wants to lift us up, up, up,
24:37 if you hadn't heard AWR would
24:41 your life be different today?
24:44 Yes, I would be lost.
24:46 And how about you, same question.
24:49 It's the same. What did you do when
24:51 you first begin listening to those programs?
24:56 We prepare in paper, I would write down
24:58 the verses from the preachers,
25:00 message and then I would continue reading
25:02 the Bible even after the preacher had finished it.
25:05 Now, do you share this gospel message
25:07 with others? Yes. Just in your own village
25:12 right here or do you go out and tell others?
25:16 We go to all the villages around,
25:18 this heals and share the AWR message.
25:21 So, everywhere you take your cattle,
25:23 when you go spread the gospel message
25:25 of Jesus. So, from witch doctor to
25:28 leader of a church, praise the Lord.
25:33 From the time of the Garden of Eden,
25:35 Satan has tempted people with power.
25:38 He told Adam and Eve that they could
25:40 become like Gods, if they just followed
25:43 his way. A lot of people in the world today
25:45 don't think there is a devil,
25:47 but when we see these stories,
25:49 we see that the devil is indeed real.
25:52 The realm of darkness is very evident,
25:55 but AWR's purpose is to bring people
25:59 into the light, the light of God's truth.
26:02 In Acts 26 verse 18 it says,
26:06 "I am sending you to these people to open
26:10 their eyes and turn them from darkness
26:13 to light and from the power of Satan to
26:16 God, so that they may receive forgiveness
26:19 of sins and a place among those who are
26:22 sanctified by faith in Me."
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